Project Camelot Bob Dean - Nibiru Transcript

8/2/2019 Project Camelot Bob Dean - Nibiru Transcript

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BobDean:TheComingofNibiruPhoenix,Arizona,September2008

BobDean:Someofourremoteviewershaveconcludedthat,yes,itsgoingtohappenthistime,thatweanditwillbeonthesamesideofthesunatthesametime.Andiftheremoteviewer...AndtheyregettingtheirowninformationfromETs,fromsourceswithintheU.S.governmentthattellmethat,yes,theyaredeeplyconcernedaboutit.Andtheyreworriedsickaboutit.Andtheydontknowwhattodo

aboutit....Whatcouldthegovernmentoranyoneelsetellyou?Whatcouldtheysaytoyou?Wouldtheytellyou:Grabyourhat?Digahole?Hangon!?...Hesays:Oh,itseemstobearatherniceplanet,andweknowaboutit,andallweneedtodoisnameit.Andthen,blesshisheart...Youknow,hedneverhadaheartproblem,butwithinayearhewasdeadwithaheartattack....Incredibleraceofhumans...doeshaveafuture.Anditisinthestars.Andwearegoingouttheretoreclaimourrightfulplace.


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...Itskindofamusingconsideringthatthelasttimewemet,ItoldyouitwastobemylastinterviewandhereIamagain.And,youknow,howcanIexplainthat?

StartofinterviewKerryCassidy:Wehavegottenthemostincredibleresponsetoyourinterview.Ihavetosayitsactuallybeenthemostpopularofallourinterviews...BD:Thatsnicetohear.KC:...andIthinkthatthereisareasonforthat.BD:Well,thankyou.KC:Ithinkthatinmanywaysyouputyourselfontheline,andyouactuallyembodythecuriositythatwas,like,rampantinallofus.Andyoudiditatatimewhen...andinthemilitary,noless.Andyoubrokerules,andyoukindofstuckitout.Yourejust...Yourelike...Yourejust...Idontknow...aone-mandisclosureproject,asfarasImconcerned.BD:Well,thankyou,Kerry.Thatsverykindofyoutosaythat.Butletmeexplainsomething.Iwasanormalhumanbeingforabigportionofmylife.Youknow,Iwasacareermilitary,no-nonsense

kind.Iworeacrewcut.WhenIlearnedwhatIlearnedin1963,64,65,itchangedmylife.Itchangedmywayofthinking.AndIbecameobsessedwithwhatIhadlearned.And,overtheyears,Ivelearnedsomuchmore.AndasImayhavementionedtoyouearlier,Ilearnedalittlebit;Iwantedmore.Youknow,talkaboutanaddiction!Whenyoustartlearningsomethingsaboutasubjectthatissoprofound...ThemoreIlearned,themoreIwantedtoknow,andthemoreIwantedtoknow,themoreIlearned,andthemoreIlearned,themoreobsessedIbecame,and...Youtalkaboutlosingyourparadigm.Myoldparadigmliterally

crumbledaroundmyknees.Youknow,theworldthatIthoughtIlivedin,IlearnedwasnottheworldthatIlivedin.AndtherealitythatIlookedaroundandthoughtIsawwasnottherealitythatexists,thatmuchofwhatweseeisanillusion.Itsaresultofourownillusions.We...wehumanssometimes,ratherthanfacereality,wecreatealittleworldofourown.Youknow,wegetupandgotowork.Weraisethekids.Webuyahouse.Buyacar.Takeavacation.Goonaboutourlives.Trytosavemoney,putalittleinthebankforthekidscollege.Andliveanormallife.AndthenIlearnedthattheresnosuchthingasanormallife,thattheworldthatexistsisnotatallwhatwethinkitis.AndthemoreIlearned...AsIsaid,myoldparadigmcrashedaroundmyknees,

and...[sighs]Imsittinghereinfrontofyouasahumanwreck,youmightsay,youknow,astowhatIusedtobe.BecauseIlivedinaworldthatwaskindofcutanddried.Oh,youknow,dothis,dothat...Youpayyourbills,you...Itsnotthatwayatall!KC:Well,letscuttothechasehere,becauseyouhavecomeforward.Actually,youcontactedus,Imgoingtosay,andsaidyouvegotsomethingnewtosay.Youvegotsomethingnewtotellthepeople.AndIknowyouregoingtobespeakingattheBayAreaConference.Andthisisamazing.


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Andletsfindoutwhatisitthatsnew.Whatisitthatyourewillingto...BD:YouwantmetodivulgetoyoumygreatrevelationswhichImplanningtospeakaboutattheconference,right?KC:Absolutely![Boblaughs]Andyouknow,thisvideowillnotbeeditedandouttherebeforetheconference,soyoudonthavetoworrythatweregoingtoruinitfortheviewersattheconference.BD:Well,therearelotsoflittletidbitsthatarekindofinterestingtome.Iassume,Ihope,theyllbeinterestingtothepeopleatSanJose.Itsbeenmyexperiencethatthepeoplewhoattendthoseconferencesareprettywideopen,open-minded.AsIjokinglyusedtosay,whenIspeakthere,itslikepreachingtothechoir,youknow.Becausetheyreadifferentgroupofpeople.IllgiveyouatinytidbitwhichIfoundinteresting.Asyouperhapshaveunderstood,IhavebeenamemberofwhatweusedtojokinglycallTheOldBoys'Network.Ivebeenamemberofitforover40years.Andwhenwecreatedthisgroup,itwasmadeupofmilitarytypes,primarily,allranks,allservices.Andweevenhadacoupleofcosmonautswhowereconnectedwiththis,whowereprovidinginformation.Well,overtheyears,theoldboyshavesharedinformationwitheachother,becausewevehadavarietyofassignmentsandjobsinthe

military.Wehadacoupleofadmirals.Wehadageneral,andtwocosmonauts.Wehadinnumerablecolonelsandcommandsergeantmajorsandpeoplefromallwalks,everywhere,whoprovidedinformationweusedtosharewitheachother.Andsomeofushavebeeninverysensitivepositionsandhadaccesstoveryhighlyclassifiedmaterial.Andwevebeenveryopenaboutsharingthatwithothers,whichkindofkeptusgoingforalong,longtime.Therearentahellofalotofusleft.ThelasttimeI...Originally,therewasroughlyabout150membersofthisgroup,andtodaytheresprobablynotmorethanadozenleft.

Welostagoodone.Youknow,GrahamBethunediedhere,aboutayearago.AndGrahamwasaretiredNavyCommanderwhowasadearmanwhohadsomeverysensitiveinformationheusedtosharewithus.But,asIpointout,wesharedamongourselves.Andthenafewofuscameoutblatantly,purposely,andstartedsharingwhatwehadlearnedwiththepublic.Frankly,IneverthoughtIwasgoingtotogetawaywithit!Ithoughtthattheyweregoingtostomponme,andyouknow,eliminateme,orwhatever.Therewasevenrumors,forGodssake,thattheyweregoingtocallmebacktoactivedutyandcourtmartialme![Kerrylaughs]Youknow.Well,Imgoingtobe80atmynextbirthday,soIdontthinktheywanttocallmebacktoactiveduty.Youknow,Icouldhavean

accident...But,IthinkwhyIamgettingawaywithwhatIamgettingawaywith,sotospeak--whereIamreleasingbitsandpiecesofthiscover-up--isthattheressomebodybacktheresomewherewhowantsmetodowhatImdoing.OrIwouldnothavebeenabletodothis.ButletmegiveyouatinytidbitofbitsandpiecesthatcomefromTheOldBoysNetwork:ThereisanorganizationcalledtheNationalReconnaissanceOffice.Youveprobablyheardofthem.KC:Absolutely.BD:Averysuper-secretgroup,asuper-secretgroupamong


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super-secretgroups.God,wevegotsodamnmanygroupsnow.AsIusedtojokinglysay,whenpooroldIkeleftoffice,hetriedtotellusaboutthemilitary-industrialcomplex?Well,itsatriadnow.Itsnotjustthemilitaryandindustry.Itsthenationalsecurityagenciesaswell.So,ifhecouldseeittoday,hedbeshockedevenmore.Ofcourse,Imsurehesaliveandwellsomewhere,probablylookingdownandchuckling.But,weareatriadnow:Thesuper-secretagencieswiththemilitaryandtheindustries.Itsalllikethis.[claspshandstogether]But,anyhow,therearepeoplewhoIthinkwantthisout.Weveknownforyearsthatamongtheincrowd...whoeverthehelltheyare,andnoonereallyhaseverbeenabletoputourfingeronit.WevebeenabletograbacoupleofemfromtheoldMagiGroup.TheWiseMen,theycalledthemselves...theMagi.YouveheardthemreferredtoastheMajesticTwelve.Well,theyarealotmorethantwelvenow.Anyhow,ImgettingawaywithsharingbitsandpiecesandtidbitswhichintriguemebecauseIthinksomebodywantssomeofthisout.ButthestoryIwasgoingtosharewithyouisthat...IntheNationalReconnaissanceOffice,about,Iguessfourorfiveyearsnow,theyhadforanumberofyearsaseriesofsatellitescalledtheKeyholeSystem.Haveyouheardofit?KC:Ah,yes.

BD:Keyhole.Itwassuper-secretandprobablytheverybestsatellitesystemintheworld.Well,theyveprobablymadeitevenbetternow.Theycouldsupposedlyreadapostagestampfromspace.Well,thereweresomeintriguingquestionsbeingraisedbyanumberofpeopleaboutwhatwasknownastheAraratAnomaly.AreyoufamiliarwiththeAraratAnomaly?BillRyan:MountArarat.NoahsArk.KC:OK.BD:Andso,theguysintheNROtooktheirKeyholesystemandfocusedontheAraratAnomaly,whichis,youknow,apuzzle.Well,whenthe

wordgotout,whenthepictureswerefinallydown-loadedandtheycomputerizedandenhancedthemandcleanedthemup,andtheypushedthemonthewallortheybroadcastthemonthewallthereatNRO,theremarkswentsomethinglikethis--andtheseareactualquotes:JesusChrist,itsagod-damnboat!Christ!Itsabigboat!OK.Onewouldsay:Whywouldsomethinglikethatbesohighlyclassifiedthatitiswayabovetopsecret?WhywouldthediscoveryofaboatonMountAraratbeclassifiedsofarabove,youknow...anything?Anyhow,thestorycomesout.Thereasontheyclassifieditisbecause,

aftertheydiscoveredthatitisagod-damnboat,abiggod-damnboat,theyinsertedateamofSEALsonthesite.Thatsatermthatthemilitaryusestoputabunchofguysonascene.KC:Right.BD:Apparentlytheydroppedthembyaircraft.Theyparachuteddown,adozenofthemorso.Theyinsertedthemontothesceneandtheseguysspentseveraldaysinthisgod-damnboat.Andthentheyextractedthem


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byhelicopters.Andwhentheyextractedthem,theguysbroughtwiththemsomeanomalousartifactswhichhaveneverbeendescribedornamed.ButthoseanomalousartifactsiswhatledtothiswholethingbeingclassifiednotonlyTopSecret,butthewaythehellabove.AndthatsalittlebitofinformationthatscomeoutviathenetworkoftheOldBoys.KC:SoareyousayingthisisNoahsArk?BD:Nooneknowswhatitis.ItwasoriginallytheAraratAnomaly,butthentheydiscoveredthatitwasagiganticboat,apparently,and...KC:Butaboatbuiltbyhumans?BD:Well,itappearstobe.Itsessentially,fromwhattheygathered,wood.But,itsaworkofgenius,apparently.Itwasintricatelyputtogether,anditsreally...K:Anditssurvivedalltheseyears.BD:Well,apparently.Thequestion,howmanyyears?Youknow...whenwastheflood?ThelastrumorIheardhadthatitwas12,000yearsago:10,500BC.KC:Whenaretheysaying?Imean,Imsureyouhaveatheory.BD:Well,thereligiousimplicationsofit,yousee.Youknow,everyancientcultureontheplanethasasimilartraditionaboutaflood,andImsurethereweremanyNoahs,sotospeak,wherever.Buttheideathatthisparticularthingissotheologicallysensitive

thatsomeyo-yobackthereatNROdecidedtoclassifyit...AndthentheysenttheSEALsinandtheSEALsbroughtbackartifacts.Well,thereyouare,yousee!Whatcouldtheyhavepossiblyfoundinthisbigwreckthatissosensitive?Thequestionarises.Idontknowtheanswertothat.Hopefully,iftheOldBoysstillstaysaliveafewyears,wemightfindout.IfindthatinterestingandIshareitwithpeoplebecauseitgivesyouaninsightintothatbunchofnitwitsbacktherethatclassifyeverything![Kerrylaughs]KC:Bill,goaheadwithyourquestionaboutMountArarat.Andthenweregoingtomoveonfromthere.BR:IthinkitwasCharlesBerlitzwhowroteabookwhichwascalled

TheLostShipofNoah.Andhepublishedabunchofphotographs--thesephotographsareontheinternet--ofsomethingthatlookslikeashiponArarat.Andtherearetwoversionsofthis,fromwhatIveheard.Oneisfairlylowdown,andwhichisanenormousthingthatlookslikeawholelotofshipstimbers.Andtherearepersistentreportsofanotherobjectthatsmuchhigherup,wayabovethesnowline,quiteclosetothesummit.AndIwonderifyoucouldsaywhichofthese,ifeither,hasbeenpickedupbytheKeyholesatellitesandanalyzed?AndwhentheSEALswereinserted,didtheycarbon-datethewood?BD:Oh,Imsuretheymusthave.ButIhaventgotanyinformationonthat.

Myguessis,Bill,thattheSEALswereinsertedontheonetowardthetop,abovethesnowline.ThatstheindicationthatIgot,thatthatwastheonethat...Theywentin,theylanded,theydropped,theyparachutedinandspentanumberofdaysupthere,apparently.Butwhattheybroughtbackintermsofanomalousartifactsisthethingthatintriguedme.WhywouldtheyclassifyitsofaraboveTopSecret?Butthatbunchofnitwitsbackthere....AndIveknownsomeofthemovertheyears;Iveworkedwithsomeofthem.AndIthinktheyareabunchofdamnnitwits!Youknow,thereisnodamnreasonwhytheyve


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classifiedsomuch.KC:WhatyearwasthiswhentheSEALsweresentin?BD:Aboutfiveyearsago,fromwhatIcangather.KC:Really?BD:Yes.KC:Thatsbizarre.BD:Well,theKeyholeprogramwasreallybiginthelate90s.Now,Imsuretheyvegotsatelliteprogramsthatareevenbetternow.WevegotcivilianprogramsthataresodamngoodthattheDepartmentofDefensewilloftengototheciviliancontractorsandbuyphotographstakenbyciviliansatellitesthatareoutstanding.Soitleadsyoutosuspect,maybe,what...howmuchbettercouldbesomeofourDoDsatellites.K:Right.BD:Youknow,theyhaveclassifiedLakeVostok.TheytookitawayfromJPLwhowasmonitoringitand,youknow,withsatellitesandall...AreyoufamiliarwithLakeVostokinAntarctica?KC:No.BD:Oh,God,thatsasensitivestoryinitself!UndertheiceinAntarcticathereisafresh-waterlakedeep,deepdownundertheice,thats100mileslongand50mileswide.Freshwater.Thetemperatureinthedamnlakeisabout65degrees,whichispleasantswimming,youmightsay.ButattheendofLakeVostokiswhatsknownasagiganticmasscon--

amassconcentrationofmetal,verysimilartothemassconstheydiscoveredontheMoon--agigantic,circular-shaped,metallicobjectdeepundertheiceattheendofLakeVostok.Highlyclassified.JPLhadit.TheNationalSecurityAgencytookitawayfromJPL.Itsoneofthemostsensitivethingsintheworldnow,astowhatistheanomalyattheendofthelake--themasscon--themassconcentrationthatissoeasilypickedupbysatellite?Anothertopsecret,youknow?KC:Mmhm.BD:Butthecommonfolk,yourenotsupposedtoknowthat.KC:Right.BD:Why?Well,youcanthandleit,yousee.Theimplicationsofit

arejusttoovast.KC:Well,tellmethis:DotheChineseknowit?BD:Oh,Imsuretheydo.Asyoumayknow,theChinesenowhavegoneintospaceinabigway.Itnevergetsintothenewspaper,butthelastIheard,theChinesehaveasatelliteorbitingtheMoon,takinglotsofpictures.Well,ImhopingthattheChinesepublishalotofthosepictures,becauseourownNASApeopletookmany,manypictures.TheArmytookthousandsofpicturesundertheClementineProject.AreyoufamiliarwithClementine?KC:Iveheardofit.BD:ItwasnotaNASAprogram.ItwasanArmyprogram,DepartmentofDefense.Theytookthousandsofpictures.Theyveonlyreleaseda

dozenorso.TheytookpicturesallaroundtheMoon,backside,bottom,top,everywhere.KC:Well,areyouintouchwithRichardHoagland?BD:IknowRichard.Hesagoodfriend.KC:OK.Soyouknowsomeofhisrecentresearch.BD:Ah,well,Ireadhisrecentbook,whichisdynamite.KC:Uhhuh.OK.So,youknowabouttheSecretSpaceProgram.BD:Oh,yes.KC:AndyouknowaboutthevonBraunandtheNazisandwhatsbeencarriedovertotheU.S.politicalsystem.


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BD:Oh,yes.Itsbiggerthanthat.Itsmuchbigger.KC:OK.ButwhenIraisedupRichardHoaglandsinformationandthestuffthathesbeenbringingforwardaboutvonBraun,theNazis,youknow,Paperclip...andyouresayingitsmuchbeyondthat.BD:Itis.KC:Sowherearewegoingwiththat?BD:OuroriginalspaceprogramwasallaproductoftheNaziparty.WithoutvonBraunandhiscrewandthePaperclipprogram,IdontthinkwewouldhavegottentotheMoonwhenwedid,orwecertainlywouldnthavebeatentheRussians.BecausetheRussiansgrabbedtheircrowd...theyalsowentintoGermanyandgrabbedabunchofscientists.AndtheRussianshaveatremendousscientificprogramoftheirown.Youknow,theydidntneedNaziscientists.Theywouldhaveeventuallydoneitontheirownanyhow.ButoneofthebiggestsecretsofallistheSecretSpaceProgram,thefactthatNASAis...ItslikeBlueBookusedtobe.Ithinkitsapublicrelationsfront.KC:Right.Yes.BD:BlueBookneverhandledtherealgoodstuff.Andeverybodyknewthat,exceptthecommonfolkouttherewhowerediddledregularlyandnevertoldthetruthaboutanything.Butthebigsecretseemstohavebeenforsolong,is:Whyarewe

keepingclassifiedtheenormousfacilitiesontheMoon?Andtheyrenotours.KC:Whosearethey?BD:Well,thatsagoodquestion.Icantellyouflatlywhotheyare.

KC:OK.BD:AreyoufamiliarwiththetermAnunnaki?KC:Absolutely.BD:Allright.Well,youreallyhavetounderstandZechariaSitchinsworktoreallygraspwherewestandtodayinrelationshipwiththisgroupofintelligences.And,Imnotspeakingofone.Thereareseveral.ThelastIheard,therewerefourdifferentgroupswewererelatingwith.TheAnunnakiareone.Andthereareothers.

KC:OK.Imean,thisisveryinteresting.CanyoudescribetheAnunnakithatyou...Firstofall,haveyouhadexposuretothemface-to-face?BD:Me?KC:Yes.BD:Yes,Ihavemetsomeface-to-face.Now,whethertheyweretheAnunnaki,Idontknow.KC:OK,well...BD:TheonesIvemetface-to-faceweretypicallyhuman.KC:Typicallyhuman.BD:Imean,theyputonasuitandtie,adress,bluejeans,T-shirt...KC:OK.

BD:...walkinourmidst,andyouwouldneverknow.KC:Andtheywerentninefeettall,orhigher?BD:No.TheonesIvemetandtheonesIveseenaboardtheshipsarenotthatbigatall.Theyrejustlikeus.KC:Uhhuh.BD:So,weredealingwithfourdifferentgroupsthatIveconcluded--myownpersonalview.KC:OK.BD:YoumighttalktoJimSparksandhemighttellyouthereareeight,orten,oradozenmore.Idontknow.Icanonlytellyouwhat


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littlebitIvelearnedovertheyears.TherearefourdifferentgroupsthatIveencountered,andtheyareallhumanoid.Onegroupiscompletelyhuman.AndnotalloftheAnunnakiareninefeettall.Theywerehumanenoughthatwearerelatedtothem,andtheyrerelatedtous.AndthatlovelylittlestoryinChapterSixofGenesisisquitetrue.Theydid,indeed,engineerthegenesandchromosomesofanexistingspeciesonthisplanet...Godknowshowlongago.Sitchinsaysitwas200,000years.TheinformationIhavelearnedindicatesoneofthemajortweakingstookplaceabout60,000yearsago,thatHomosapienssapiensweretweakedandgeneticallymanipulatedevenmore.So,werecomingalongslowly.KC:OK,sowhatfourraces?Letsnameem,inyouropinion.BD:Well,therearethehumans.KC:OK.BD:SomepeoplecallthemtheNordics.Thenyouhaveguysthatareverypale,andverytall,andverybroad...KC:Uhhuh.BD:...whichsomepeoplerefertoasthebigwhites.KC:OK.BD:Andthenyouhavethelittleguys.KC:TheGrays?AndthentheAnunnaki.Sothosearethefouryourefamiliarwith.

BD:AndnotalloftheGraysareanevolvedspecies.Someofthemappeartobe...Whatisthetermtheyusedtouse?Theywereanartificiallifeform.KC:Androids?BD:Yes,theywerehumanoidandroids,buttheywereconstructed.Theyrelaboratoryproducts.Andtheyoftenwonderedwhy,incasesofcrasheswherethereweresurvivors,thatsomeofthemdidntcomebackandtrytoretrieve.Andthestorythatcameoutamongthemilitaryformanyyearswasthattheywroteemoff!Theywentbackandmademore.Now,therearesomepeoplewhosay,Well,theydonthaveasoul.Well,IverunintohumanbeingsthatIbegintowonderwhetherthey

hadasoul.[Kerrylaughs]But...KC:OK.So...BD:TherearetwotypesofGrays,fromwhatIvelearned.Therearethelittleguyswhoappeartobelaboratoryproducts.Andthentherearethesix-footGrayswhoseeyesaremoreround.Andtheyrenotreallygray.Theyrejustsortofachalky,off-whitecolor.KC:Mmhm.BD:Andtheyseemtobeanevolvedracealloftheirown.AndIthinkthosearetheonesthatprobablyranintoBettyHillandBarneyattheincidentmanyyearsago.

KC:HaveyouheardaboutDanBurischtalkingabouttheOrions?Theyresittinginships,alongwiththemilitary,actuallywatchingtheplanetrightnow?BD:Iveheardbitsandpiecesofthat.IdontknowtoomuchaboutDansstory.Hescomeoutwithagreatmanythings.KC:OK.Butthisisjustnewinformationthathehasactuallycomeforwardwith.BD:Well...KC:Andtheyrewatchingtheplanettoseewhathappens,andwhetherornotwehaveacatastropheofanykind...


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BD:Wehavegot...KC:...andwhethertheymighthavetostepin.BD:Wehavephotographs,andmanyofthemImgoingtoshareattheshow.Ihaveslides,andphotographs,ofgiganticobjects.Imtalkingabouthumongousobjectsinspace!Andmanyofthemaresatellitesintheirorbitaroundtheplanet.ManyofthemareinorbitaroundtheMoon,aroundMars.IhaveacoupleofpicturesthatImgoingtosharethatIgotfromaSovietcosmonautonwhathappenedwiththePhobosthing.TheRussians...youknow,theirfamousPhobosrocketsystemthattheysentuptheresomeyearsbackwhichgotknockedoutoforbitbyananomalousobjectthatcameupfromthesurface.But,ittook...Ithadtakenanumberofoutstandingphotographsbeforeitwasdamagedandcrashed.KC:OK.What...Well,youcalleditananomalous,Idontknow,objectthatcameupfromthesurface.MeaningthesurfaceoftheMoon?BD:Mars.KC:OrfromtheEarth?BD:Yes.KC:OK.BD:No,thePhobosprogramwassenttoMarsbecausetheyhadhopedtolandalanderonthesatellitePhobos.

KC:Right.BD:TherearetwocirclingMarswhichareanomalous.Again,thatfantasticword:anomalous.Astronomersconsiderthemanomalousbecause,firstofall,theyregoinginthewrongdirectionforanaturalsatellite,whateverthatmeans.Theyretoosmalltobenaturalsatellites,andtheyretooclosetothesurfaceofMarstohavesurvivedbecause,iftheywerenatural,theywouldlongagohavebeenbroughtdown,suckedinbygravity,andcrashed.Thefactthattheyrestilltherepuzzleseverybody.SotheRussianssaid:WeregoingtolandonPhobos.Itsabouttwelvemilesindiameter.IthinkDeimosisonlyaboutsixorseven.Andtheyweregoingtotakesomepicturesonthesurface.Well,youknow,

apparentlytheintelligencesuptheredecided,No,yourenotgoingtodothat,andbumpedPhobos--thesatellitethattheSovietssentup--knockeditoutoforbit,anditcrashed,apparently.KC:ButtheyvebeendoingthattotheJPLcraftgoingupandaroundMarsforyearsnow.BD:ThereisanintelligenceonMarsthatwantstolimitouraccesstotheirreality.Andtheyvedoneadamnprettygoodjobofit.KC:Well,ourwitness,HenryDeacon...andIdontknowifyourefamiliarwithhim.BD:Imfamiliarwithhim.Idontknowhimwell.KC:OK.HehassaidthattheAnunnakiareonMars...inbases.BD:Theyare.Iagreewiththat.KC:So,aretheytheonesshootingdownthoseobjects?Youknow,the

variouscraftfromJPL,andsoon?BD:Probably...Look,Zechariahassaid...And,Iknowthisoldman;Irespecthimtremendously.Ah...hesaystheyneverleft.Theywithdrewovertlyfromtheiractivitiesontheplanetwithus,buttheiractivitieshavecontinuedcovertlybothonEarth,theMoon,andMars.AndfromtheknowledgeIhaveandthelimitedamountofinformationIvebeenabletoget,theprimaryfocus,theprimaryintelligencebehindallofthis,aretheAnunnaki,thesamegroupthatgeneticallyengineeredussomanythousandsofyearsago.


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KC:OK.ButyouvegotEnkiandEnlil,right?Andthesearewarringbrothers,andoneisworkingforthepositivesideofhumanityandtheother...BD:Well,youhavethisdysfunctionalfamily.Theyevenwenttowarwitheachother,andmanwasinthemiddle,ashealwayshasbeen.Youknow,wewereaproductoftheirengineering.Theyengineeredusasaslavespecies.Theyengineeredustoworkforthem.KC:Butarenttheystillatwar?BD:Apparently,thereisstill...andsomeofourremoteviewers...andIknowafewofthem...Ivedonealittleofitmyself,and,believeme,itworks.Ivebeenaccusedofbeingguiltyoffront-loading,sotospeak,becausewhenIwanttolookatsomething,IknowwhatIwanttolookat.Themilitaryoriginallytrainedtheirguystonotknowwhattheywerelookingfor,andthentheywoulddown-load,youknow,compareandsuch.KC:Right.BD:But,whenIwanttolookatsomething,IknowexactlywhatIwanttolookat.Oneofthegreatest,ofcourse,isIngoSwann.KC:Oh,absolutely.BD:Oh,atremendousguy!Whatanintellectthatguyis!

KC:Oh,incredible.Weredyingtointerviewhim.Doyouknowhim?BD:HeandIhavecorresponded.Yes.Iwroteanicearticleabouthimonetimeyearsago,andhewrotemealetterandthankedmeforitandtoldmeheappreciateditalot.KC:Lovely.Yes.BD:Butheisarareman.Hesarareintellect.Notonlyisheprobablythebestremoteviewerweveeverhad,perhaps,otherthanPatPrice,that...IngoscomeupwithstuffontheMoonthat...Youdhavetoreadhisbook.KC:Actually,Ihave.BD:Penetration.Itsdynamite.

KC:Anditshardtogetaholdof,Iunderstand.BD:Yes.Itshouldbere-issuedbecauseitdselllikehotcakes.KC:Absolutely.BD:IspokeaboutitonCoast-to-CoastacoupleoftimeswithArtBell,andapparentlyitbecamesodamnhotthat,youknow,youcantfindacopy...twoorthreehundreddollarseach,ifyoucanfindone.KC:Yes,wellIhave...IdontknowifIstillhaveit,butIhadone.BD:Well,holdontoit.Itsgold.KC:Uhhuh.BD:ButIngoisgold,himself.KC:OK.Butletskindofmovebacktothequestion,becauseIwanttoget,sortof,drilleddowntothisanswer.Sotheyrestillatwar?

BD:Theystillhaveadifferenceofopinionaboutus.Now,whetherEnliland...KC:Enki.BD:Ea...Enki...Hegoesbytwonames.Whethertheystillarealiveornot...Withthegeneticgeniusesthattheyhavebeen,thattheyare,theycangeneticallymanipulate...Youknow,theyingeniouslygeneticallymanipulatedtheirownchromosomes,DNA,tilltheyliterallyhavebecomepracticallyimmortal.Now,IwouldntbeabitsurprisedifEnkiandEnlilmaystillbe


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alive.Maybetheyrerunningaroundwithacane,likeIdo,[Kerrylaughs]gruntingandgroaning.Youknow,theyvegotthegreat-great-grandkidsdoingtherunningand...Idontknowthat,andImsurethatnooneelsedoes.But,apparentlythefactionsarestilldivided,andtheonesidewantstouseusastheyalwaysdid.Andtheothersidewantstogiveustheopportunitytobeourownspecies,tochartourownfuture,andtocall...youknow,todetermineourownlives.Andthereapparentlyhasbeenthisdifferenceofopiniongoingon.KC:So,whenwegetbacktothenationalsecuritystate,andthestateoftheU.S.righthereandnow...Imean,youreanex-military.IhardlywanttocallyouexbecauseIthinkyoure,insomeways,probablystillconsultedhereandthere.Youknow,wereabouttogotowarwithIran...BD:No,werenot.KC:Whatsyoureperspectiveonthis?Werenot?BD:No,werenot.KC:OK.BD:Andthatsmyopinion,forwhateveritsworth,youknow.KC:Sure.BD:Ihaveahalf-pennyinmypocket...IdontbelievethatweregoingtohaveanuclearwarbecauseIdontthinkthecustodianswill

allowit.Theplanetistoovaluable.Itstoorichareservoiroflife.Notonlythehumansthatarehereonthisplanet,butalltheothercreatures.Thisplanetisanabsolutecornucopiaofbeautiful,beautifulformsoflife.And,notonlythat,butthe...Whatisit?Thefaunaandthe...whatstheotherterm?KC:Theflora?BD:Theflora!Thefloraisinfinite,almost.No,theplanetstoovaluable.KC:OK.BD:TheyvegotalotinvestedinplanetEarthandtheyrenotabouttoletitgotoanuclearwar,becausetheyhavethepowertoseethatitdoesnothappen.

AndIwanttotellyousomethingelse.YouveheardthisoldrumoraboutthePrimeDirective?KC:Mmhm.BD:Bullshit!Itdoesntexist.[Kerrylaughs]KC:Right.OK.BD:Theyhavebeeninterferinghere,breakingtheso-calledPrimeDirective,overcenturies,thousandsoftimes.Theyhavebeeninterfering,accordingtoourhistoricalrecords,backtoancientGreece.Theyprobablyhadahandinthatdamndust-upatTroy.Youknow,theytooksides.TherewereevenrumorsinHomersreportsthatthegodsthemselvescamedownandtooksidesandplayedinthegame.Tothem,itsagame.KC:Right.Well,theBhagavadGita,ifyourefamiliarwithit...I

meantheygointo...BD:Thereyouare...filledwithit.TheVedasarefilledwithit,yousee.KC:Absolutely.BD:RichardThompsonisagenius.Heswrittenabookaboutit.AlienIdentitiesitscalled.KC:OK.Illtakealook.BD:Yououghttoreaditifyougetachance.RichardThompsonKC:Yes,Idloveto.BD:Hehelped...


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KC:OK.Imgoingtochangegears.BD:HeworkedwithCremoonthe...KC:Oh,really.BD:Yes.TheyjointlywrotethatbookonTheHiddenHistoryoftheHumanRace.KC:Oh,OK.BD:CremoandThompsonwrotethat.Well,RichardwroteabookofhisowncalledAlienIdentitiesanditsfilledwithVedicfactswhichyouwouldenjoy.KC:Yes.BD:Butthehistorysprettyclear.Theyveintervenedoverthecenturiesagain,andagain,andagain,whereveritseemedappropriatetotheirbenefitontheirbehalf.KC:OK,but...BD:Theyvegotteninourwars.Theyvemessedaroundinthatwholemess.KC:OK,butwhataboutPlanetX?BD:Oh,itsareality.KC:Yes?BD:Yes.KC:Sowhataretheygoingtodoaboutthat?BD:Well,apparentlytheyareconcernedabout...Youknowthestory.AccordingtoSitchinandaccordingtotheSumerians,itsareality.Well,ourastronomersapparentlyhaveconcludedthatitisindeeda

reality.Foralmostacentury,astronomershavebeenconcernedandinterestedaboutwhattheycalledanintruderthatseemstocomeandgofromtimetotime.And,theycanmeasureitbytheperturbationsandtheeffectsonotherplanets.Theyveknownofitsexistenceforalongtime,buttheyvenevergonepublicaboutit.Well,intheearly80s,theJPL...Theguysat...KC:JetPropulsionLab.BD:JetPropulsion...WeusedtocallittheJackParsonsLaboratory,whichIthinkisprobablywheretheoriginalJPLcamefrom.

KC:Yes.BD:BecauseJackParsonsestablishedit.Anyhow,theysentoutacoupleofPioneerssatellites--backin82,justtotrytodetermineiftherewassometruthtoit.AndthePioneersapparentlycamebackwithdatawhichsaidnotonlyYes,butHell,Yes!AndthePioneersconcluded...thePioneersatellitedataconcluded.So,wow!Astronomersweretroubledbythat.Whew!Couldthisthingbereal?Well,andwhatdidtheydo?Theysentoutwhattheycallaninfraredastronomicalsatellite.IthinktheycalleditIRAS.Andthiswasdonein83.TheysenttheIRASout,takinginfraredpicturesallaroundtheecliptic,aboveandbelow.AndapparentlyIRASgottwogiant,positiveresponsesthatyes,the

twelfthplanet,thetenthplanet,howeveryouwanttocallit...yes,itsreal.Andthatswhenthelidslammeddown.KC:Soitsoutthere.Itsonitswaybackin,right?BD:AccordingtotheSumeriansandSitchin,apparentlyitis.AndifyouareastudentofhistoryasI--oneofmymajors--itslastpasswas1600BC.TheSumerians,andSitchin,andallofthosesayithasanorbitof3600years.KC:Mmhm.BD:So,likemanyofus,youknow,Icountonmyfingersandtoesand


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figureout...Well,1600BC.Ithasanorbitof3600years.Wow!Itsdue!Well,apparently,itis.Now.KC:Sowhyaretheykeepingthisasecret?BD:Because...KC:Becauseyoureanexpertonsecrets.BD:Listen[sighs]...EverytimeNibiruwouldmakeapass,itwasnotalwaysdevastating.ItwoulddependonwhethertheplanetEarthandNibiruwereonthesamesideoftheSunatthesametime.AndifwewereonthesamesideoftheSunatthesametime,allhellwouldbreaklooseonplanetEarth.Well,apparentlythelastpasstriggeredtheexplosionofSantorini.Thera,thevolcanointheMediterranean,theAegeanSea,blewitstop,broughttoaclosethegreat,greatMinoancivilization,amongotherthings.ItaffectedEgypt.Itsallintherecords,apparently.ThereareevenhistoriansandtheologianswhosaythatSantorinisexplosionisexactlywhatyourereadingaboutwhentheplaguesandallhitEgypt,andallowedMosestogettheIsraelitesout.Butifyoulookat1600BCandfigure...andthatwastherelativelyrecentpast.Itsduenow,andapparentlytheguysintheastronomicalobservatoriesknowit.Andthat,again,isAboveTopSecret.

Letmegiveyouatinyexample:Anumberofyearsago,thereweretwobrilliantguysworkingattheNavalObservatoryinWashington.TomVanFlandernisone,whoIhopeyouveinterviewed.KC:No,butpleasecontinue.Wedlovetodothat.BD:HesnolongerwiththeNavalObservatory.TheotheronewastheChiefAstronomerattheObservatory,abrilliantmanbythenameofRobertHarrington.KC:Right.BD:AndHarringtongaveaninterviewtoZechariaSitchinanumberofyearsago,Ithinkitwas91orso,wherehecamerightoutandsaid:

Dr.Sitchin,weareinterestedinthisbecauseittiesinperfectly

withtheworkyouvedoneontheSumeriansandtheancientplanetNibiru.Hesaid:Wevefoundit.Itsreal.Wehavephotographsofit.And,hesays,fromwhatwecanputtogether,itsaratherniceplanet.ItsabouttwoandahalftimesthesizeoftheEarth.Apparentlyitsheadingtowardthesystem,thecenterofthesystem.Weveconcludedabouteverythingaboutit,exceptthatwehaventnamedit.AndZechariaspokeupandhesaid:Itsalreadybeennamed.Hesaid:YousimplycallitNibiru,astheSumerianscalledit...ThePlanetoftheCrossing.KC:MmhmmBC:Well,Mrs.SitchinandIwereinagreement.Imissher.Shedied

aboutayearago.ShewasconvincedthatRobertHarringtonhaddiedbecausesomebodybumpedhimoffbecausehehadthecouragetocomeoutandgiveZechariathisinterview.Idontknowwhetheryouveseenitornot.Itsontape.KC:No,Ihaventseenit,butweinterviewedLucaScantamburloaboutthissubjectandhesalsotalkedaboutRobertHarrington.BD:Yes.Well,HarringtongavetheinterviewtoZecharia,anditsonavideocalledAreWeAlone?AndIthinkyoucanpickitupattheconferenceherenextweek.


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KC:OK.BD:Ihaveacopy.AndIsentacopytoNeilFreer,whosamanyoushouldinterview.KC:OK.Well,wereintouchwithNeil.Hesaveryinterestingguy.Hesabrilliantguy.BD:Hesbrilliant.Hejustrecentlycameoutandadmittedthatheshadanintimateinter-relationshipwithextraterrestrialintelligencesincehewasachild.KC:Well,hesalwaystalkingabouttheAnunnaki.Idoknowthis.BD:Well,hewroteabookcalledBreakingtheGodSpell.AndhehassupportedZechariasworkforyears.BR:Ihaveaquestion,Bob,ifImay,abouttheprovenanceofthisinformation,inthesensethatZechariaSitchinsworkisverywelldocumented,andalotofpeoplewatchingthisvideowillbeveryfamiliarwithhisbooksandwithalltheintelligentcommentaryaboutthat.AreyousayingyouhaveadditionalinformationbasedonyourcontactswithintheOldBoysNetwork?Orareyoudoinganeatpresentationof...?BD:Manyofmyconclusionsaremyown,youknow,andthey,inmanyrespects,correlateperfectlywithSitchinsworkwhichis...Youknow,Neilhastoldme...Hesays,youknow,ZechariareallyshouldgettheNobelPrize.ButIdontknowwhattheywouldgrantittohim,inwhatfield.Buthessuchanoutstandingscholarinwhathesdone

andwithhis...TheEarthChroniclesiswhathecallsallofhiswork.Ithinktherearesevenoreightofthemnow.BR:Ihavetwoquestions.Oneisaminoronetodowithcelestialmechanics.AnditsjustsomethingthatIveneverunderstood.AndIveheardthisfrom...Iveheardthisquestionfrommanyotherpeople,aswell...thatifNibirucomesfromtheouterreachesofthesolarsystem,itsgoingtobeanicyrock,whichisntgoingtobethekindofplacethatanybeingscouldliveon,orwouldwanttoliveon.AndresearcherAndyLloyd,whoyouhaveprobablyheardabout,hastheorizedthatwhattheyreseeinginthephotographsthatyourefertoasanorangeobjectisactuallyaBrownDwarf,withthepossibility

ofNibirubeingoneofitsmoons,ifyoulike.AndtheresalotofdebateabouthowtoapplywhatSitchinseemstohavebeensayingtotherealpracticalitiesoflifeonanicyrockoutintheorbitofPluto.AndIwonderedifyouknew,orhadanythingtosayaboutthat.BD:No,itsnotanicyrock.Andyes,whenitmakesitslongjourneyoutandback,itgetssofarawayfromthesunthatthesunisprobablynomorethanalittletinyprickoflight,alittletinypinpoint.Andyouwouldthinkthatitwouldbenaturallyicycold.No,it...Apparentlytheplanet,likemanyplanetsinthesystemhere,generatesitsownheat.Ithasinitscoreageneratingheat

systemverymuchlikeourown.Wehaveasystemwithinthecoreofthisplanetthatisa...thathasbeendescribedasathermonuclearreaction,verysimilartothesun.Now,mostofthelifeandallofthebountyandallofthebeautyoflifeonthisplanetcomesfromourgoingaroundthisbeautifulsun.ButIdontthinkNibiruisanicyrock.No.Ithink,firstofall,thatitprobablygeneratesenoughofitsownheat,andIthinktheyprobablydid,indeed,createforthemselves,withtheadvancedtechnologythattheyhave,akindofaDysonsphere.Areyoufamiliarwiththat?


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BR:Mmhm.BD:Youknowwhat,thebrilliantBritishastronomer,Ithink,FreemanDyson,saidsomeyearsagothatanincrediblyadvancedtechnologywillhavetheabilitytoencloseitsplanetandretainnotonlyitsheat,butitsatmosphere.AndIsuspectthattheAnunnakihavedonethattoNibiru.Andtheyprobablydidit...GoodLord...hundredsorthousandsormaybeamillionyearsago.Sotheplanet...Ithinkthecolorfromit,thedullred-goldencolor,isaresultofthatenvelopeofgoldshellthattheyvecreated.TheyvecreatedforthemselvesaDysonspherearoundtheirplanet.AndIsuspectthatanyadvancedtechnologywillultimatelydothesame,simplybecauseitmakessense.Itsapracticalthing.BR:Iftheyhadthatdegreeofengineeringcapability,whywouldnttheyjustliveonMarsinsteadofhurtlingthroughthesolarsystem?BD:Well,theywerenttheoriginaloccupantsofMars.BR:OK.BD:TheyusedMarsasaway-station,andtheyvereactivatedit.IagreewithZechariaonthat,thattheyvereactivatedtheirway-system,theirway-stationthere.TheyusedtodropoffonMarsontheirwayhere.

Sotheywerenever,Idontthink,originalinhabitantsofMars.BR:No.Ilikewhatyouresaying.BD:ThereareafewremnantsoftheoriginalinhabitantsonMars.ThereisevensomeindicationswhichIvebeenlookinginto,andIvegottensomedata,thatwereplayinghosttoabunchofMartianshereonthisplanet.Imtalkingabouttheoriginalspecies.BR:DoyouknowanythingabouttheoriginalMartianspecies?Or,haveyouever...BD:Otherthan...Theonlything...Ivetalkedtoacoupleofremoteviewerswhoveapparentlybeenabletocomeface-to-facewiththem,sotospeak,andtheyendeduplookingalotlikeAmericanIndians.BR:Mmhm.OK.

BD:AndImayhavemetaMartian[laughing].Iveknownsomanystrangepeopleinmylife.BR:Sure.Imean,Iunderstandthiswellenoughtoknownottolaughatacommentlikethat.Thatsforsure,so...That,believeitornot,wasmeanttobeaminorquestion.Ihaveamoremajorone,somethingthatIthoughtyoumightwanttotalkabout.Or,maybeImisunderstoodyoualittleearlieron,Ithink,inaconversationthatKerryhadreportedwithyou.Someseriousresearchers,LindaHowe,JimMarrs,quitealotofotherpeople,arereallysuspectingthattheremayahoaxedalieninvasionasakindofmajorcelestial911eventinourskies.BD:Youretalkingaboutafalseflagkindofsituation?

BR:Falseflag,yes.And,..BD:Ifweweretopullthatoff...Ifanyofouridiotnitwitsbacktherethinkthattheycouldpullthatoff,Ithinktheydmakeabsolutedamnfoolsofthemselves.BecauseIdontbelieveitwouldwork.Idontthinkyoucandothatwhenyouvegottherealpowerouttherethatwouldntallowthattohappen!BR:Notsomuchaninvasion,butabigdisplayintheskytocreatefearandmakeyoubelieve...tocontrol...likeCarolRosensaidthatshehadalwaysbeentoldbyWernhervonBraunmanyyearsago.BD:Yes,Wernhersharedthat,apparently,beforehedied,thathe...


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Itwasoneoftheprogramsthatthegovernmentatthetimewasconsidering.Youknow,theyvehadtheselittleplotstheyvebeenworkingonallthetime.Thiswar,thatwar,astockmarketcrash...this,that,youknow...alltheselittlemagicianthingsthat,thatwhileImshowingyouthishand,Impickingyourpocketwiththisone.Theymayhavehadthatinmindatthattime,butIdontthinktheyrethinkingofitseriouslynow,becauseIthinkthatourso-calledPowersThatBe--whichisajoke--areinsuchcloserelationshipandcollusionwiththerealpower[pointsupward]thatitwouldneverwork.Theywouldneverallowit.Itsliketheyre[pointsupward]notgoingtoallowathermonuclearwar.BR:Yes.BD:Therestoomuchvaluablerealestatehere!Notjustthisrichgoldmineofhumangenetics.Whataripereservoirweare,ofgenesand...God!Thewholespeciesplusalloftheotherfaunaandalloftheotherflora...thisisavaluableplanet.Andtheyloveit.Theyownit!Weveneverownedit.Wejustliveonit.Theyfarmus,sotospeak.God![sighs][Kerrylaughs]CharlesFortewasright,tosomedegree.Weareproperty.Andweregoingtoremainpropertyuntilwereachapointwherewecanliterally

standupandsay:Allright.Weregoingtodothisnowourselves.Andproveittotheuniverse.Weredealingwithauniversefilledwithlife!Andmostofitissofarbeyondourown!Iusedananalogyonetime.AndIsaid:Theylookuponuslikewelookuponhead-huntersinNewGuinea.Now,youveseenthefilms,youknow,HistoryChannelandalltherest.Theyrenaked.Theyrerunningaroundwiththesestupidthingsontheirpenisesand,youknow,bonesthroughtheir...whatever.Pathetic,sad,primitivesavages.Theyrenottobefeared.Theyrenottobeabused.Theyretobenurturedandcaredfor.Well,thedifferencebetweensomeofthemoutthere[pointsupward]andusisthedifferencebetweenusandthesepoorguysinNewGuineaandthoserainforestsoutthere.

Now,Ijokedaboutthat,andthenIlearnedlaterthatthatwasntreallyaveryaccuratecomparison.IlearnedlaterthatIdidntevencomeclosetoanappropriatecomparison!Thattherealcomparisonbetweenmanyofthem[pointsupward]outthereandusisclosertohowwefeelaboutthechimpanzee.And,Bill,ifyouallowyourmindtotakethosetrips,andIknowyoudo,therearecreaturesandlifeformsouttherethatareliterallygod-like.Alotoftheremoteviewerswhohaveencounteredthem--andIveseenafewofthemmyself--lookuponthemastranscendentals.Theymanifestaslivingenergylifeforms,formsoflight.TheyrethesamekindthatappearedwhenJesuswaswalkingaround.Probablythe

samekindofguysthatshowedupforpoor...whatwasit?JosephSmith.IknowthehistoryoftheMormonfaith.PoorJoehadaneventonetimehappeninginhisbedroomwheretwobrilliant,beautiful,tall,glimmering,glisteningbeingsofpurelightappearedinhisbedroom.Thoseweretranscendentals.Now,thedifferencebetweenthemandusisbetweenusandtheRhesusmonkey.[Billlaughs]So,IthinkImgettingclose.Maybenot.ButImthinkingImgettingclosetoananalogythatmaybemorerealistic.IhavenothingbuthopebecauseImanimmortalbeing.Imaninfinite


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lifeform.IfyoucouldseemethewayIreallyam,Bill,itwouldntbeinthispatheticbodywiththe...BR:Itsonlyourbodiesweredescribing.BD:Oh,thatsright!Youknow,thisisjusttheshell.Ivehaditfor79years.Iveuseditbadly,andIveabuseditovertheyears.[Kerrylaughs]AndImbeginningtopaythelessons,theprices,forthat.ButifyoucouldseemeasIcanseeyou...Weareshimmeringbeingsoflight.BR:Yes.KC:Absolutely.Well,OK.Ihaveaquestionforyoubecausehes[meaningZechariaSitchin]gotabookoutcalledEndofDays.BD:Yes.KC:And,inthatbook,heactuallytalksaboutNibiruandthereturn.Buthedoesntsaythatitsactuallygoingtohappennow.BD:Hesays...Hethinksitsabout2060.Thatwashisestimate.KC:OK.Andso,wheredoesthisinformationthatyouhave,and2012...Howdoweputthisalltogether?BecauseImgoingtosaysomethingaboutwhatyouretellingus...becauseitsclearthatyouresomethingofanintelligenceanalystyourself.Youcertainlyhaveanincrediblebackground.Youcancross-correlate,andsoon.Butyoualsohavesomeinsidercontacts.AndyoualsohavecontactwithAnunnaki,asyouvesaid.Allright?

So,whereareyougettingyourinformation?Andaretheysayinganythingspecificaboutwhatshappeningin2012?BecauseImnotsosureaboutZechariasconclusion.BD:Hesaid2060,butapparentlyitcouldbebeforethat.TheDepartmentofDefenseisquiteconcernedaboutit.ThereareentiresectionsoftheDefenseDepartmentthatareworkingonthatsubject,particularly.Thebigquestionis:Areweanditgoingtobeonthesamesideofthesunatthesametime?Andsomeofourremoteviewershaveconcluded,yes,itsgoingtohappenthistime;thatweanditwillbeonthesamesideofthesunatthesametime.Andiftheremoteviewer...Andtheyregettingtheirinformationfrom

ETs,andmuchofmyinformationisfromthesamesource.And,yes,wereinforsomebadtimes.KC:Andweretalkingaboutwhilewerestillhereontheplanet,becauseIdontknowthatwedbealiveduring2060.BD:Well,IdontknowwhetherIllstillbehereornot.Youknow,Illbe80inMarchand,youknow,Ivegotaticketoutofhere.KC:Right.BD:Ivegotitstamped.Ivegotitpaid.Imnineyearsbeyondmywarrantyasitis!KC:[laughing]No,butIthinkthatyouregoingtolivequiteawhile.So,what...OK.Sowevegotthisinterestingthinggoingonandweregetting...Wehaveahugecrack-downonanythingtodowithPlanetX.

BD:Yes.KC:Itsbeenmadethelaughingstock.Itsanamazingthing!BD:Oh,theridiculeis[shakeshead]...KC:Imean,IthinkitsupersedeseventheETridicule.BD:Oh,itdoes!Itdoes.KC:Ithinkitsbeensostrong.Anditactuallyhascome,Iwouldsay,fromtheVatican.BD:Mmhm.KC:Sowhataretheysoafraidof,numberone?And,numbertwo,haveyouheardthetheorythatbasicallywhathastohappenis,a


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protectiveshieldisgoingtobeputaroundtheEarthsuchthatthistimeitsactuallynotgoingtohavetheimpactthatithasinthepast?BD:Iveheardthatrumorinpassing,andthetechnologyexiststodothat.WhatIhaveasuspicionisthatmuchofwhatwilltranspirewillbeallowedtotranspire.TheEarthisnotgoingtobedestroyed,andthehumanraceisnotgoingtocometoanend.Butitisgoingtobeadifficultperiodoftimewhenitbegins.Andletmetellyou,ithasalreadybegun.Thereactionfromthesunisaclearresponsetothepresenceofthisotherbody.Now,thisotherbodyhasalreadybeenphotographedbytelescopesinsouthernChiliandinNewZealand.IhadaskedMarciatodigintoherfiles.IhadanarticlefromagoodfriendwhopublishesamagazineinRome.Adriano.IdontknowwhetheryouknowaboutAdrianoForgione.Brilliantyoungman.KC:Yes.BD:Anyhow,hehasconnectionswiththeVatican.HehasgoodfriendswhoareJesuitpriestsandastronomers.AndtheVaticanisconcernedaboutit.Anyhow,Adrianosentmeanarticle,includingtwophotographsthathavebeentakenofNibiru--already!--takenby,primarily,Ithink,thisobservatoryinChili.

ButtheyvetakenpicturesatanobservatoryinNewZealand,aswell.So,itscloseenoughnowthatopticaltelescopeshavepicturesofitandtheyrestudyingitcarefullytotrytodetermine...whatisittheycallit...thecelestialmechanicsofhoweverythingmoves.Well,ifourremoteviewersarecorrectandtheETshavegivenussomerun-downonit,itsgoingtobeadifficultpassing.Becauseweanditaregoingtobeonthesamesideofthesunatthesametime.Andthatmeansallhellsgoingtobreakloose.Now,theyhavethetechnology.WeretalkingaboutnotonlyAnunnaki.Thereareintelligencesouttherethatbeganabillionyearsago.AndtheyhavetechnologythatputstheminacategoryofwhatKakuwouldcallaTypeIIICivilization.

KC:Mmhm.BD:So,aTypeIIICivilizationhasthetechnologytoameliorateormitigatethepassingofNibiru.Now,whethertheydothat,asyousay,putaprotectiveshieldaroundit...Nibiruhasdonethatforitself.Theyhaveaprotectiveshieldaroundtheirplanetwhichiswhyinthephotographsitcomesoutaskindofreddish-gold.Andapparentlythatswhytheycamehereforthegoldinthefirstplace.Becausetheywerelosingtheiratmosphereandtheyneededtoseedgoldparticlesintheiratmospheretokeeptheatmospherefrom...Youknow,theygoonalongtripoutthere.KC:OK,buttheAnunnakiarehere,youresaying.Andyet,theAnunnakiaresupposedlyonNibiruaswell.Or,whatareyouthinking?

Or,whatsyoursourcestellingyouaboutthis?BD:Thecivilization,theAnunnakicivilization,isontheplanet,buttheAnunnakiareonthisplanetaswell,alloverthedamnplace...underthesea.Thefacilitiesthatweknowabout...insideMountHayesinAlaska,insideMountPerdidointhePyrenees.TheresonerightinthemiddleofAustraliawhichisnear...what,AliceSprings.Andwhatsthefacilityoutthere?BR:PineGap.BD:PineGap!Yes.Thankyou,myfriend.PineGap.BR:Areyoureferringto...


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BD:AndthathappenstobetheR&Rfacility,accordingtotheremoteviewers.KC:WhatsR&R?Imsorry...BD:Restandrelaxation.[Kerrylaughs]Itswhatweusedtocallitinthemilitarywhenwe...KC:TheR&Rfacilityforwho?What,theAnunnaki?BD:FortheETsandtheAnunnaki.Yes.KC:PineGap.BD:Andtheyredealingwithhumanbeings,theyneedrestandrelaxation![Kerrylaughs]But,anyhow,therumoristhatPineGapisprimarilyanR&Rfacility.KC:Haveyoubeenthere?BD:IvebeentoAustralia.IhaventbeentoPineGap,no.[smiles]KC:Wouldyoulietome?BD:Sometimes,maybe,butnotrightnow,no.KC:OK.BD:No,IhaventbeentoPineGap.Alotofmyworkhasbeenaresultofanalyzingandsiftingandevaluatingtheworkofothers.Thatswhatanintelligenceanalystdoes,takesdatafromavarietyofsources.ButIhavesomeinformationthatIhavebeenprovidedfromsourceswithintheU.S.governmentthattellmethat,yes,theyaredeeplyconcernedaboutit.And,theyreworriedsickaboutit.Andtheydontknowwhattodoaboutit,becausewedonthavethepowertodoadamn

thingaboutit!BR:Istheestimateddate,asbestyouaregiventimetounderstandbyyoursources,inthenextfewyears,ratherthanSitchinsestimateof2060?BD:Well,letmetellyousomethingabout...Youtalkingabout2012?BR:Imtalking...well,therearesomeseriousPlanetXresearcherswhosaythatwellseethethingnextyear,andthingscouldbestarting...BD:Ithinkyoumayseeitnextyear,butIdontthinkyouregoingtohaveallhellbreakinglooseuntilmaybeabout2020.Youregoingtohaveabuild-upoffactors.Itsnotgoingtohappenallofasudden,justlikethat.[snapsfingers]Yourenotgoingtogooutthefrontdoorandallhellsbreakingloose.

Youregoingtoseeaseriesofeventstakingplaceinvolvingourgeologicstructures.Youregoingtohaveincreasedvolcanicactivity.Youregoingtohaveincreasedsunspotactivity.Wereatalowrightnow!KC:Mmhm.BD:Butyouaregoingtoseetremendoussunspotactivity.Youregoingseetremendousgeologicactivity.TheRingofFirewillprobablyerupt.Now,theseareallgoingtobecluesthatallhelliscoming,youknow.Youregoingtohavestorms.Thecycloneshavebeengettingworse,andthehurricaneshavebeengettingworse.Youllbeginhavinghurricanesshowingupinplacesthattheyreallyhaventtroubledusforalong,

longtime.So,youregoingtohaveabuild-up.Notslowly,butaconsistentbuild-upofgeologicalandweatherandsunspotactivities.Andyoureprobablygoing...TheestimatethatIveheardfrompeoplewhohavestudiedit,isabout2020.KC:OK,butwehaveheardthatSitchin,aswell-meaningashemaybe,isworkingforthegovernment.Andmyunderstandingwouldbe,istheydontwantthisinformationout.Sotheyredoingeverythingintheirpowertomakesurethatitsridiculed,asweveobserved.


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BD:Kerry,whatcouldthegovernment,oranyoneelse,tellyou?Whatcouldtheysaytoyou?Wouldtheytellyouthat...Grabyourhat,digahole,hangon?Wouldanythingtheysay....KC:Well,isthatwhattheundergroundbasesisallabout?BD:Well,Ihavealwayshadtheconviction--andIveputthistogetherovertheyears--thattheso-calledelite,thecrmedelacrme(theyreself-designated,youknow),theyhavebeenpreparingforchaosforyears!ItinitiallywasinitiatedbythethermonuclearthreatwiththeSoviets--underground,youknow,fall-outshelterswherewecouldgo.Wehaveourownair-conditioning.Wecanhaveourownfoodsuppliesandourownwatersupplies.ThatwasaprogramthatbeganthatIworkedverycloselywithwhenIwaswithFEMAovertheyears.Ivebeeninundergroundfacilitiesyouwouldntbelieve!KC:Mmhm.BD:Andtherearefacilitieseverywherethatarenotknown.Imean,theresabigfacilityrightunderFortWachugahereinArizona.Imeanamassiveone!Thatwillnevercomeout.Imtellingitnow,but,youknow...Theresadeep,deep,massiveundergroundfacilityunderFortWachuga.Theyreallovertheplace.AndIwenttoaDepartmentofEnergyschoolatCampMercuryinNevada.

ThatwasthefirsttimeIvisitedSite51.Imayhavesharedthatwithyou.KC:Mmhm.BD:Anyhow,Iwenttoschoolin,oh,79,aDepartmentofEnergyschoolonradioactiveemergencydisasterresponse,anyhow.KC:So,youwentintotheundergroundbaseat51?BD:No,Italkedtotheguyswhobuiltsomeofthem.IalsotookabusrideoverthepassfromCampMercury,whichistheatomictestfacilitythere,overthepass.IwentintoSite51,GroomLake,fromtherear.Anditwasnobigthing,justatremendousfacilitythere.Mostofitwasunderground.Andthehangars...KC:So.OK.FirsttheyreactedtotheSovietthreatandallthat,and

thenuclear...BD:Itllbuildupslowly,anditsalreadysubtlybegun.Andtheydontwanttotalkaboutit.Noonewantstoshareit.Imean,look,forGodssake,atthelidtheyvekeptontherealityofETactivityontheMoonandMars!KC:Mmhm.BD:Withtheridiculefactor,andthelidcomingdown...IthinkRobertHarringtondidlosehislifebecausehesaidtoomuch.Hesays:Oh,itseemstobearatherniceplanet,andweknowaboutit,andallweneedtodoisnameit.And,then,blesshisheart...Youknow,hed

neverhadaheartproblem,butwithinayearhewasdeadwithaheartattack.Youknow,whenIkemetthatcrowdatMuroc,whichisnowEdwards...KC:Right.BD:...in54,hemettheAnunnaki.KC:Mm.BD:PoorIke,notlongafterthat,hadaheartattack.Itwasmorethanhewasabletodealwith.Theshockofthatrealitytookatollonhim.KC:Mm.


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BD:AndthatsoneofthereasonswhytheBrookingsReportreachedtheconclusionitdid!Youcanttellthosepoorfolksoutthereallthis.Theycouldnthandleit!Well,B.S.Theycanhandleit!Damn...Humanbeingscanhandleanything.KC:[laughs]Ihavetoagreewithyou.BD:Imean,wevegonethroughhelloverthecenturies.KC:Absolutely.BD:WecanhandleAttilatheHunandAdolfHitler,wecanhandleanything.Wevebeendesignedtohandleanything.Wehaventbeendesignedtoliveverylong,butthenagain,theresanotherstorythere.KC:Right.BD:Wheredidyouthinkthatthistremendousoutpouringofknowledgeonthedoublehelix,ourRNA,ourDNA,andallofthat,hasbeencomingforth?Istheresomeconnectionwiththefactthatmaybewenowhavearelationshipwiththeguyswhooriginallydesignedusinthefirstplace?KC:Sure.BD:Ofcoursewehave.WerenowintheprocessofredesigningandengineeringourownDNA.Andwerebeingtoldhow.Werebeingshownhow.AndthankGodtheyresharingitwithusnow,becausethefirsttimepooroldAdamaandEwawantedtheknowledge,theythrewemoutoftheGarden,asitwere,youknow?

AndthatsanotherthingIwanttotalkaboutbrieflyinpassing...isthattheresnosuchthingasoriginalsin.Andthatsacrockofmanurethatsbeenforceddownyourthroatsforthousandsofyears.Thereisnosuchthingasoriginalsin.Thehumanraceneverfell.Itwaspushed![Kerrylaughs]AndthisspeciesthatyouandIareapartof,thisbeautiful,wonderful,hopefullyincredibleraceofhumansdoeshaveafuture.Anditisinthestars.Andwearegoingouttheretoreclaimourrightfulplace,whereweshouldhavebeeninthefirstplace.KC:OK.AndthisgetsintotheSecretSpaceProgramandterraforming,

becausethereissometerraforminggoingon,preparingforwhatmighthappenifNibirucomesthrough,andiftheEarthisinsuchastate...WeretalkingaboutterraformingMars,maybebeyond.Haveyouheardthingsaboutthis?BD:Yes,terraformingisafineart.Itsbeengoingonformillionsofyears.TheEarthitselfwasterraformed.KC:Right.BD:Youknow,itwasprepared.TheGardenwaspreparedforlife.Andthenlifewasintroducedandhasbeennurturedsince,fromtheverybeginning.Terraformingisafineart,andsomeofthoseguysouttherewhovebeenaroundabillionyearsareprettygoodatit!So,yousee,Idontknowwhethertheyreplanningtore-terraformus

afterNibirupasses.Orwhethertheyaregoingtotrytohelpalleviatethedamageinthemeantime?Iwouldsuspectthelatter.Maybetheyareplanning,throughtheirengineeringgenius...and,mygod,thefactis...Youknow,theyvegotartificiallyconstructedobjectsinspaceintheringsofSaturnthatareover2,000mileslong!Spaceships2,000mileslong!Ihavepictures.Illsharethemnextweek.KC:OK.WhataboutJohnWalson?Areyoufamiliarwithhispicturesofthecraftaroundthesun?


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BD:Iveheardofit,butIhaventseenthem.KC:Allright.Justwondering.BD:Wevegotobjects...IhavephotographstakenbyApollo13ofalienshipsfivemileslong,andImshowingthoseoveratSanJose.KC:Wonderful.BD:Andthoseweretakenbyourownastronauts.Now,yougettheguysonApollo13--andtheyreall,fromwhatIunderstand,allthreestillalive--andyouwontgetaoneofemtoadmitwhosnappedtheshutteronthatcamera.Butthefilmisthereandthenegativenumberisthere.Therollnumberisthere.And,thereitis--aNASAphotographofafive-mile-longartificialspaceship!Now...Andthatsonly...Thatssmall.KC:Well,letstalkabouttheastronautsforaminute,because...WhatsgoingonwithClarkMcClelland?Andwhyishehavingsuchaproblemcomingforward?BD:IdidntknowClarkwashavingaproblem.KC:Hehasabookthathestryingtowrite.Hespenniless.Heshadaterribletime.Theydontwanthimtotalk.BD:No.Theyprobablydont.KC:OK.And,haveyoumet...Youknow,haveyoutalkedtotheastronauts?WhataboutEdgarMitchell?HaveyoutalkedtoEdgarMitchell?BD:I...Italked,beforehedied,withGordonCooper.Iwasonthe

phoneafewtimeswithCooper.Heevensentmeanautographedphotographofhimself.Iadmiredhimbecausehewasoneofthemavericksthathadthecouragetocomeoutandsaywhathehadseen.IveknownEdMitchellforsomeyears.EverytimeIgetachancetoseehim,Ichatwithhim,andIconsiderhimadelightfulman.Hesverywarmandterriblybright.KC:Aretheymind-controlled?BD:Tosomedegree.KC:Havetheirmindsbeenwiped?BD:Cooper...Cooperneverwas.KC:OK.BD:TheynevergottoGordon.AndIdontthinktheygottoNeilArmstrongeither.But,alloftherestofthem,tosomelevel,have

beenkindof...whatsthewordImlookingforhere?[sighs]Theyhavebeenconditionednottospeak.Andinsomecases,theymayhavebeenhypnoticallyeffectedtonotremember.InDarkMission,Hoaglandsays--andtheevidenceisprettyclear--thattheyhypnotically...Debriefediswhattheycalledit.But,supposedly,theywerehypnotizedtohelpthemenhancetheirmemory,torecall.Apparentlysomeofthemhadbeenhypnoticallyadvisednottoremembercertainthings.AsmuchasIadmireEdMitchellandrespecthim--atremendous,wonderfulguy--hehasadmittedpubliclyinfrontofotherpeoplethathistimeontheMoon,walkingontheMoon,waskindofvague.Hecant...Hecantrecalleverything.And,ofcourse,thatssad.

IdontthinktheyevergottoNeilArmstrongbecausewhenhegotbackhelefttheprogram,said:Tohellwithit,Imoutofhere.HewentbacktoCincinnatiandstartedteachingmathattheuniversitythere.AndArmstronghasntsaidfivewordspubliclysince.KC:Uhhuh.BD:AndthenyouhavethecaseofAldrin.Now,Aldrinhashadexperienceswherehehasbeenwithfriendsandthesubjectwouldcomeup.AndBuzzwouldstarttocryorhewouldgetnauseated.Onetime--andHoaglandtouchesuponthis,Ithink,inChapterTenin


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thebook--whereAldrinwasinconversationwithafewpeopleandwithhiswife,havingafewdrinksanditwasjustrelaxed.Andsomebodyaskedhimablunt,straight-to-the-pointquestion,andhehadtorunoutandthrowup.Hegotsick!Now,this,tome,istheresult...andIvestudieditenoughovertheyearstoknowthatitsoundstomelikehypnoticsuggestion.KC:Mmhm.BD:Hehasbeenhypnoticallyconditionednottoremember,ortonotevendiscussit.Hegetsnauseated.Andinoneinstancewithabunchoffriends,oldFlyBoytypes,heendedupstartingtocry.Now,thisbreaksmyheartbecauseAldrinisagoodman.Hewasoneofourbettermentobeselectedforthatprogram.KC:Umhm.BD:Youknow...Youknowthestory,andthisiscommonknowledge.TheygotbackfromApollo11.TheyputAldrininasanitariumforaboutsixweeks.Hehad...sufferingfromalcoholism.Doyoubelievethat?[Kerrylaughs]Doyoubelieveoneofourbestandbravest,oneofthefinestintheApolloProgramsufferedfromalcoholism?Nonsense!Youknow...Apparently,itwastheprogramming,tobereinforced.Nowwhywouldagrownmanwithhisbackgroundbreakdownandcrylikeababyorendupgettingnauseousandbarfonthissubject?Thats

hypnotic,post-hypnoticstress.KC:SowhatisitontheMoonthatis,youknow,thatissoimportantthattheywanttocompletelywhitewashitoutofthosemensminds?BD:Oh,mygod!Theastronomicalsocieties,theprofessionalastronomersinthiscountry,havebeenguiltyofcriminalactivity!Youmayquoteme.TheyvebeenguiltyofcriminalactivityforyearstonotdiscusstherealityofwhattheyknewontheMoon.TherearemajorfacilitiesandmajoractivitiesgoingonontheMoonallthetime.Notonlythat,theMoonhaswater.Now,whetheritsanaturalprocessfromthesatellite,orwhetheritswaterthatsbeenstoredthereforuse,therearevaporoussignsofaformofanatmosphereinthebottomofsomeofthecraters.

Now,astronomershaveseenthesepictures,butthatdishonestbunchofnitwitswontdiscussit.Theyrescaredbecause...Youknowwhy?Ninetypercentoftheirincomecomesfromgovernmentgrants.Andwhenyouvegotagovernmentgrantandthatsyourprimesourceofincome,youregoingtosaywhateverthegovernmentsaysyoushouldsay.Ordontsaywhateverthegovernmentdoesntwantsaid.Well,anyhow,thereissomeatmosphereontheMoon,atleastinthebaseofseveralofthelargercraters.ThereiswaterontheMoon.Butthereismajoractivitygoingon!Imean,weretalkingaboutengineeringactivity.Therearegiantshipsthatcomeandgooutofthecraters.Thereare

lightsallthetime.Theyhavenoticedbridgesappearingandthendisappearing.Imean,theyreactiveashellontheMoon!KC:Whatabout...BD:ButthesameactivityisgoingononMars!Youveseenmyphotograph,Iguess...Itsnotonlymyphotograph.ButtheresacitythesizeofChicagoundergroundonMarsthatsgeneratingsomuchheatitshowsupininfraredphotographs.KC:AreyouintouchwithJohnLear?BD:IvemetJohn.Ivebeenathishouseatimeortwo.Ivevisitedhim.Ihaveatremendousrespectforhim.ThereasonIlikeJohnis,


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hesbeennailed,asIhave,asadamnfoolmaverick,youknow?KC:Imean,thisishispet,youknow,project.BD:TheestablishmenthastriedtoridiculeJohnLear,andyoucantridiculeJohnLearbecausehesgotsources,similartosomeofmyown,thatarebeyondquestion.Hesgettingpeopleinsidefeedinghiminformationalmostonaregularbasis.[Kerrylaughs]IgetmineinbitsandpieceswhenIgotoconferencesandwhenImeetpeople,youknow.ButJohngetsitdirect.KC:OK.IhaveaquestionforyouaboutArlingtonInstituteandwhatshappeningandmightbehappeninginOctober,becausewehavealotofinformationcomingoutaboutOctoberandaboutsomethingthatmaybeplanned.Idontknowifyouveheardsomeofthisstuff.Wehave...Ourtopsecretwitnessesarecomingoutandsaying,youknow,thattheeconomyisbeingengineeredtocrashhereintheU.S,that...BD:Oh,thiswholethinghasbeenengineered.KC:Allright.BD:Itsbeendiddled.Youknow,thisisajoke.Andthepoorguyoutthere,thepoorworkingmanonthestreet,asitwere,isbeingscrewedroyally!But,youknow,thiswholething...Kerry,Iwouldalmostcometoapointthat90%ofwhatyoucallreality--ourthreatswiththeRussians,theGeorgiainvasion,thestockmarketcollapse--allofthisisallengineered.KC:Sotellusaboutit.SotellusaboutGeorgiabecause...OK,to

getbackto...Iknowyouknowtheguywhosheadof,orwasheadof,theArlingtonInstitute.Theyaresendingoutanewslettersaying...invitingpeopletotellthemwhatdreamsandvisionstheyrehavingaboutOctober,becauseOctoberhasbecomesuchahotmonth.Intracking,thereissomethingcalledHalfPastHuman.Haveyouheardofthem?BD:Inpassing.KC:Theyredoing,youknow...Theydolanguage.Theytrackwithwebbotsallovertheinternet,basicallytrackingwherelanguageisgoing.Theyvebeendoingitsince98withcomputersandsoon.Andtheywereabletochart,likebefore911,thishugeraiseinconsciousnessthatsomeeventwasimminent.Whattheyregettingfor

Octoberisthesamething,onlysomethingevenmorelong-rangeinitseffect.BD:Well,IhaveatremendousrespectforJohnPeterson.Hesabrilliantguy.KC:Allright.BD:Iveknownhimforsomeyears.KC:So,ArlingtonInstituteissuddenlyaskingforpeoplesdreamsandvisionsaboutOctober.Why?BD:Marcia...MarciaismoreintouchwithJohnnowthanIam.Shesacomputerperson,youunderstand.Iwonttouchthedamnthing!KC:Iunderstand.BD:Because,asItoldyouearlier,Ienjoymyprivacy.Andifyoureontheworldwideweb,youdonthaveanyprivacy.

KC:OK,Iagreewithyouthere,so...OK.Butyouknowhim.AndImjustbasically...Youresayingthisthingisengineered.SowhathappenedinGeorgia?Whatdoyouknowaboutit?BD:Oh,itwasallengineered.KC:OK,sotheRussians,youknow,weretippedoff.BD:ThePresidentofGeorgiadidwhathedidjusttoluretheRussiansin.KC:Right.BD:And,hewentin...TheRussianscouldnothaveignoredhim,forgodssake!Heinvadedoneoftheirlittle...well...


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KC:So,whatsthepurposebehindit,though?Weknowwhathappened,butwhy?BD:Ithink...Whatcouldthepurposebeotherthantodistractpeoplesattentionfromthisoverheretothisoverhere?Whileoureconomywasfallingaroundyourknees,wereallpayingattentiontotheRussiansinvadingpoorlittleGeorgia!Well,theRussiansdidntinvadepoorlittleGeorgia.TheywentoutandwhackedthePresidentofGeorgiaslittlepee-pee,asitwere.[slapshishandtogether].Stopthat!Andtheypulledback,youknow.KC:Right.BD:Youknowhowamagicianworks?Hegetsyouinfrontof,youknow...andhesdoingthiswiththishandwhilehespickingyourpocketwiththisone.KC:Thatsright.BD:Andthatswhatthegovernmentisdoing.AndwhenIsaygovernment,itsnotthegovernmentyouthinkyouvegot.Itsnotthe,youknow...God,thatsallafaadeinitself!ThegovernmentwevegotisprobablybeingtotallyrunbytheAnunnaki,becausethereisapowerbeyondpower[pointsupward]thatspullingthestrings.KC:Right.BD:TheycallthemtheIlluminati,butthereareguysabovetheIlluminatithatarereallyinpower.KC:OK.ButweretoldtheVaticanisbehindalotofit,andthat...Inotherwords,theVaticanisbehindwhatsgoingonintheU.S.,

thattheresaplan.AndyouvegottheAnunnaki.Thisisnotapositiveplan,OK?TotakedowntheU.S.BD:Well,theythinkitis.KC:Doyouthinkitis?BD:Theirultimateideais,yes,apositiveidea.KC:OK,whatisit?BD:Aone-worldgovernment.KC:Oh,allright.BD:Ofcoursethatswhattheywant.KC:Right.BD:Andtheyregoingtohaveit,eventually.KC:Absolutely.Now,youcanhaveapositiveone-worldgovernment.Right?

BD:Butthegrowingpains...Thegrowingpainsthatwegothroughbeforewegetthere...Itsgoingtobeprettyhorrendous.NotonlyarewegoingtohavetoputupwiththiscrapwithNibiru,whichisarealthing...Butthisgrowingprocessthatweregoingthroughtoendupeventuallywithaone-worldgovernmentisgoingtobepainfulashell!Andtheresgoingtobealotofbloodonthestreetsbeforeitsoverwith.Sadlyenough,thats,inmyopinion,afact.Andthatsbeingmanipulated[pointsupward]fromaveryhighlevel.KC:OK,butwehavewhitehatsintheU.S.governmentthatareactuallytryingtopreventthis.Aretheynot?BD:Wehavesomegoodmenandgoodwomenwhoarewellawareofwhatstakingplaceandwhatstranspiring.Andtheyretryingtomodify,

ameliorate...Isthattherightword?Tomakethisgrowthpainaspainlessaspossible.Theyretryingtonothaveasmuchbloodasitmighttake.Growthfromadolescenceasaspeciesandasasocietyissomewhatlikethepainfulgrowthofanadolescentkid13yearsoldwhostryingtogrowup.Doyourememberwhenyouwentthroughthat?KC:Sure.BD:Itwasnotfuntime.KC:Absolutely.So...OK,butletsgetdowntothenutsandbolts.


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Thestockmarketiscrashing.Youneedtoinvestingoldandsilverifyouwanttostayalive.BD:Thestockmarketwasrottentoitscore.KC:Absolutely.But,areyoutellingpeopletoleave,togotoSouthAmerica?BD:No.KC:Whatsyouradvice?BD:Imtellingpeoplethatyoureinforsomedifficulttimes,andIsaythisinmypresentations.Ijokinglylookatthemandsay:Youarealldoomed.Theresnotaoneofyouthatsgoingtobearoundahundredyearsfromnow.Youredoomed!So,thehellwithit.Enjoytheride![Kerrylaughs]No,ItellpeoplewhoareinterestedinlisteningtowhateveritisIhavetosay,thatyoureinforsomedifficulttimes.Itsgoingtohappen.Thereisnowaytoavoidit.Wecannotgoonaswewere,becausesomeofoursystemswererottentothecore.And,ourbankingsystem,theinsuranceprograms,allofthat...stockmarket,WallStreet.Thoseguyswereabsolutelyrotten.KC:Thehousingindustry?BD:Thehousingindustry!Thatwasboundtofail!Youtalkaboutabubble!Itwasboundtofail.Ithadtofail.Well,Imgladitfailed.Hopetohellthattheylearnedsomethingfromit.Now...

KC:OK,butweretalking...ArewetalkingaboutmartiallawintheUnitedStates?Imean,whatarewetalkinghere?BD:Youretalkingaboutatimewhenyoumayhavemartiallaw.Itsonlyonestepaway.Youknowthattheauthorityhasbeengiventothepresidenttodeclareit.KC:Right.BD:Congressgavethatauthoritytothepresidentyearsago.Iveevenlosttrackofhowlongitsbeen.But,anyhow,allthepresidenthastodo,whoeverhemaybe...andthatdoesntmattermuchanymoreeither,becauseonenitwitisverymuchliketheother.Youhaveanationalemergency,anditsdeclared.KC:Right.BD:Boom.Martiallaw!Youdeclareanationalemergencywhichhasnot

beendeclaredyet.KC:Right.BD:Butwererightontheedgeofit.KC:Right.BD:Andyouregoingtohavemartiallaw.KC:OK,sowedonthaveanelection.Right?BD:Well,thats...YourethinkingaboutanOctobersurprise?KC:Ihavenoidea.Imaskingyou.BD:Well,Idontknowaboutthat.ImnotsureitllhappeninOctober.Isuspectitmayoccurwithinthenextyear.ButIdontknow...Ihaventhadanydreams.Mydreamshavebeenprettyfascinating

recently.Butnoneofthemhavebeenterriblytroubling.AndIknowthisisallhappening.Itsgoingtotakeplace.Itsinevitable.Itsbeenorchestrated.TheIlluminatidoexist.Theyareinpower.Theyvebeeninpowerforyears.Theyvebeendemonstratingthatpowereversince1913whentheycreatedthe...Whatthehellisthebankingsystem?KC:FederalReserve.BD:FederalReserve,yes,whichisaprivatecorporation.Welostmostofitin47.Idontknowwhetheryouwereawareofthat,butthatwasabigyear.Nationalsecuritybecameeverything.Itbecamea


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memberofthetriad.In47wedeclared...WemadetheNationalSecurityAgency.WeformedapactwiththeBrits,theAustralians,theCanadians,andNewZealand,theUKUSAPact,whichmostpeopledontevenknowexists.TheUKUSAcrowd,allofus,Britain,theU.S.,Canada,NewZealand,Australia,arealllikethis[clencheshandstogether].WhoeverisintheWhiteHouseandwhoeverisatBuckinghamPalace...itdontmatter.KC:Allright.BD:Thepowerbehindthesceneshasbeenrunningthisdamnthingsince1947,andIkesawit.Itscaredthehelloutofhim.HemettheAnunnaki.Thatscaredthehelloutofhim.Sotheyrepullingourstringsnow,liketheyalwayshave.KC:OK,sowhatsyoursolution?Whatwouldyoutellpeople?Imean,infacingthefuture,intryingtoreinventthefuture.CertainlyMarciaisworkingwithpeopleto...tobecomeenlightened,toapply...BD:Shesdoingatremendousamountofworktohelppeopletrans...makethistransition.Kerry,werenotjustgoingthroughatransition.Weregoingthroughatranscendenttransformation,literally...atranscendenttransformation.Weregoingtocomeoutofthisthing,whenitsoverwith,atotallydifferentspecies.Werenotgoingtobethesamepeoplewewereinthepast.Andthatsgood!Anditsgoingtohurt.Anditsgoingtobepainful.

AndItellpeople...andIvesaidthisrepeatedly:Dontgettoouptightaboutit.Youvebeenthroughhellbefore.Youregoingthroughabitofitagain.Butonceitsover,onceyouvemadethattransition,weregoingtohave,hopefully,anewworld,anewfuture,anewbeginning.AndIthinkthatstheendoftheGreatYearthatweregoingthrough.Weregoingthroughtheendofa26,000-yearcycle.Itellyou,2012...phhhft,dontmatter!Firstofall,Christwasbornsevenyearsbefore.Andthisisafact.Andifyoudontbelieveme,getSirLawrenceGardner,whoisprobablyoneofthebesthistorianswevegotworkingtoday.LawrenceGardnersgotthefacts.Jesuswasbornin7BC,onthefirstofMarch.Now,ifyouwanttocountfromhisbirth,likewesupposedlyhavebeen

doing,addsevenyearsto2008.Youendupwith2015.Thatsprettycloseto20...KC:Oh,soyouresayingweareactuallyintheyear2015now.BD:Wereintheyear2015rightnow.KC:Right.SothatmeansthatNibiru...Whenyousayitscomingin2020,itsactuallydueinaboutfiveyears.BD:Probably.KC:So,werelookingat2013byourcalendar.BD:Well,nolaterthan2017[smiles].Illthrow2017out.KC:OK.BD:Andyoucantakethattothebank.[laughter]2017.Nowthat...KC:OK.

BD:Thatllgiveortakeayearortwobecausethecelestialmechanics...Theyhaventreallyworkeditalloutyet.Wevegotcomputersyouwouldntbelievebuttheyrestilltryingtofeedinsomeofthedata.KC:So,areyou...IsoneoftheremoteviewersyoureintouchwithIngoSwann?BD:IhaventbeenintouchwithIngoforsometime,butI...Kerry,Ivebeendoingsomeremoteviewing.KC:Right.BD:Iveevenhadacoupleofout-of-bodyexperiences.


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KC:Mmhm.BD:Ivebeendoingalotofmeditating.Whenyougoin...Whenyoustepintothatworld,thereisnotime,andyoucantalktoanybody,everywhere,allatonce.Now,thatsoundssillytoanyonewhodoesntunderstandwhatImtryingtosay.Whenyoustepintothatrealmoftimelessness,andyouremoteview,andyoustepoutofyourbody,andyougointoalteredstates,andyoumeditate,youreinatimeless,infiniterealitythatpeoplecommunicate...Youdbeshockedandamazedatthewealthofinformationthatsouttherejusttotapinto.TheoldonesusedtotalkabouttheAkashicRecords.KC:Mmhm.BD:Itsreal.Itsreal!Anditisntjustaboutthepastbecause,Kerry,thereisnopast,noristhereafuture.TheresonlyaneternalNow.Andaphysicistsittinghereinthisroomwouldsay,Balderdash!BecausetheywouldntgraspforaminutewhatImtryingtotalkabout.ButoldIngowould.KC:Yes.Absolutely.Well,Ivebeensomeofthoseplacesmyself,thatyouretalkingabout.BD:Iknewit!Yousee...KC:[laughing]AndsoIhavetosayyoureabsolutelyright,anditsanincrediblepleasureforustohearthisfromyourself.AndI...Youknow,Iwouldliketo,atthistime,justopenthefloor

andsayisthereanythingthatwehaventcoveredherethatyouwouldliketotalkabout?And,then,ofcourse,wewouldalsoliketoinviteBilltoaskyousomequestions.BD:Wevedancedaroundonawholebunchofthingsforthelasthour.Ienjoyit.Ienjoychattingwithyoutwoguys.Yourepleasantpeople.AsIsay,Imanoldcodger,andifyouplugmeinandturnmeloose,theresnotellingwhereImayendup.Ivebeenaround79yearsthistrip.Ivemadeadozenortwoprevioustripswhich,amazingly,Irememberquiteabitabout.Whenyoustartgoingintothattimelessrealm,youstepintothatinfinitewhichwereallpartof,memoriesofotherlivescome

floodingintoyousometimes.Oh,god!ThethingsIveseen,thethingsIvedone,theplacesIvebeen...thislife...arekindofshocking.ThethingsIvedone,theplacesIvebeen,thelivesIvelivedbeforearebeyondbelief.I...Imnotboasting.Thisisnotaboast.ButImanoldsoul.Ivebeenaroundonthisplanetalongtime.And,I,amazingly,remember.SomeofthememoriesIwouldrathernotrememberbecausetheyrepainful.Hell!IhavememoriesofSumer.IknewtheAnunnakibackthen,workedwiththem.Iwasoneoftheirproducts.Iknowthemnow.AndIdonthaveanyfear.And,inbringingthistoaclose,Iwouldliketosaytowhoeveriswatching:Getridofthefear.Youhavenothingtofear.Youarean

immortal,timelessbeingwhohasaninfinitefutureinagloriousuniversethatssofilledwithbeautyandlightthatweonthislittletinyplanetcouldntbegintograsp.[clenchesfists]ButIsaytopeople,Dontbeafraid,forgodssake!Gatheraroundyouthoseyoulove.Spreadthatlovearoundandgointotomorrowwithcouragebecauseyouvebeenthroughahellofalotworsebefore.So,behopeful.Loveoneanother.Andhavecourage.AndthatsreallyallIhavetosay.KC:Well,thankyou,BobDean.Itsreallyanhonorandapleasure.BD:Thankyou,KerryCassidy.Ienjoyedeveryminuteofit.


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