Project Camelot Bill Deagle Transcript - Part 1

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DrBillDeagle-PrognosisforPlanetEarth-Part1Vista,California,September2008

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BillRyan(BR):Youknowwhat?IdjustliketosayImreally,reallygladtohavemetyoupersonally.BillDeagle(BD):Yeah.Well,samehere.[laughs]

BR:ThisisProjectCamelot,andmynameisBillRyanwithmypartnerKerryCassidy.Andwerebook-endinghererightbetweenus.WevegotDr.BillDeagle,anditsatremendousprivilegetobewithyou.BD:Thankyouverymuch.BR:IjustjokedtoDr.BilljustnowthatImclaimingtheGuinnessrecordforhavinglistenedtohis[December2006]GranadaForumLectureallthewaythroughseventimes,whichIhadtodobecausetheressomuchdatainthere.Andnotonlythat,inaphonecalljustafewdaysago,Dr.Billtold


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usthatheprobablyonlypresentedabout10%oftheinformationwhichhehadtooffer.Andoneofthethingswhichwehopetodointhenextcoupleofhoursistoseewhetherwecangetonrecordasmuchoftheremaining90%aspossible.BD:[laughs]BR:Andinparticular,manyofthepeopleviewingthisvideonow,andthetwoofus,Kerry,andmyselfinparticular,arereallyinterestedandfocusedonwhatisgoingtobehappeningintheimmediatefewweeksandmonths.AndIthinkoneofthephrasesthatBillusedwasthecalmbeforethestorm.

Whatsthestorm?BD:Well,thebestwaytothinkistheEmoryWarCollege.AndifyoutalktopeoplethatworkintheMarine-ArmyWarCollegeandotherplaces,whattheydois,theywar-gameitout.Theyhavepeoplethatsitaroundbigboardroomtables,andthenwhattheydois,theyputitintosimulationcomputers.TheyuseSimulaPL/1andotherlanguagesthatwereactuallydevelopedforthemilitary,andthentheyputitontheirownsuper-computersandthentheyrunthroughanumberofsimulations.Soeverywar,every

conflict,everynationalemergency,hasalreadybeenscenarioedout.Peopledontrealizejusthowmuchcomputingpowerhasbeenputintothesethings--foreverythingfromETinvasions,toatsunamihittingthewestcoast,toCumbreViejo[Ed.Note:anislandintheCanariesthatcouldcollapseandcauseatsunamiontheEastcoastoftheUS],toacivildisruptionbecauseofanearthquakeintheNewMadridfaultintheMidwest.Sobasicallyeverythingsbeensimulated.Theresanumberofitems.Now,whatIoftentrytodoonmyradioshow,whichistheNutrimedicalReport;itsonGenesisNetwork.Andthetwowebsites,ifyouwanttocheckitout,arenutrimedical.com,whereIhavealotof

theanti-aging,lifeextension,civildefense,andotherinformation.Andtheotherwebsiteisclayandiron.com.ThenetworkisGenesisNetwork.ItsoutofSt.Paul,Minnesota.Andtheirwebsiteforgettingpodcasts,streamingandon-demand,whichreplaystheshows,isgcnlive.com.WhatItrytodoonmyshowis...Irealizethatoneofthethingsabouthavingaregularradioshowisyoucanbringinalloftheseexpertsandguests,butthereareseveralwaysofapproachingit.Myapproachhasbeentotry...iftheylistentoenoughshows,thatpeoplewillstarttoseeamontageofimagesthatllchangetheirparadigm.Becauseyoucantchangepeoplebynecessarilybeatingthemoverthe

headwiththefactsiftheyemotionallyarentreadyforthat.BR:Yes.BD:AndyoualsohavetochangetheirparadigmbywhatIcallthelittlegradesthathappenastheylistentomoreandmorepeople,andtheyarewillingtoacceptonemessagefromonetypeofperson,oronewayofdoingit,oralittlehumor,orsomemusic.BR:Yes.BD:Andeventuallytheygettothepointwheretheyreabletothenaccepttheintellectualtruths,thespiritualtruths,andsoon.


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ThetwokeythingsthatItrytoteachonmyshoware:Thefirstthingisthatpeopledontknowwhattheyare.Peoplereallydontknowwhatkindofabeingtheyare,andbecauseofthat--whichisinmanycaseskeptpurposelyawayfromthemtheyremanipulated.Forexample,ifyoudidntknowyouwereabird,youdobviouslynottrytofly.Right?BR:Yep.Goodanalogy.BD:TheotherthingItrytoteachthemisthateverythingthattheyhavelearnedinthepasthasbeenpredigestedandpresentedtothemsotheyreallydontunderstandthenatureoftheuniversetheylivein.Theydontevenknowwhatrealityis.BR:Yeah.Andallthisisoneoftheparametersinthemodel,presumably,thatpeopleareinteractingwiththisstageshow...BD:Right.BR:...withaverylimitedamountofinformationattheirdisposalwithwhichtoreact,tomakeappropriatejudgments.BD:Right.SowhatItrytodois,Itrytostretchthembeyondthat.OneofthethingsthatItrytodois...Theresnosuchthingasasacredcow,whetheritsapoliticalview,areligiousview,ascientificview.Ithastobe,youknow,trustbutverify.Youknow,RonaldReagan,beforehehadtoomanyaspartamejellybeans.[laughs]

Sotheideaisthateventuallyyoullgetenoughevidenceandenoughlogicalthingsthat...YouhavewhatIcallthetwowitnesses.Ithastonotassaultyourintellect(theinformation),anditalsohastoringwithyourspirit.BR:Good.But,youknow,alotofpeoplewatchingthisnowhavealreadydonethathomework...BD:Right.BR:...eitherbylisteningtoyourshowsorlisteningtoours,becausewevebeenoperatinginessentiallythesameway.BD:Right.BR:Orboth.BD:Right.BR:Andtheresalso...Wouldyouagreethattheresnotalotof

timenow?BD:No,theresnotalotoftime.AndtheresanumberofwhatIcallspasmsofeventsthatregoingtohappen.Andtojustgiveyouthetimelineofwherethingsaregoingratherthangivingyouspecificdates...Thefirstthingisthatpeopleneedtounderstand,whetherweelectMcCain/PalinorObama/Biden,ortheGreenPartywithMcKinney,theeventsarealreadyinmotiontocreatearegionalandworldeconomiccatastropheandthentocreateregionalandworldbanks.BR:Sotheyvealreadygotthescriptforthemovie,buttheyhaventgotthecastyet.BD:Right.Theyvegonetocentralcasting,andwhoevertheplayers

are,theyreinasensegoingtobelikeridersonthewaveofthis.BR:OK.Sowhatsthescript?[laughs]BD:Well,thescriptbasicallyisthat...AndIllbackupalittlebit,sothat...BR:Yeah.Andalsoafewminutesagoyoumentionedmodeling.Itwouldbegreattotiethisbackintothemodelingscenariothatyoumentioned.BD:Right.Theyvedonelotsofmodeling.InfacttheyhaveoneofthemostadvancedprogramsattheUniversityofCaliforniainSan


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Francisco.AndtheyretieddirectlyintotheNationalReconnaissanceOffice.This,bytheway,Idoregularlyonmyshow--releaseclassifiedinformation.AndtheretheyhaveallthisaccesstotheCray5sandCray4super-computerarrays,andsotheywilldosimulations.KerryCassidy(KC):AndthatslocatedinDenver,right?BD:Well,thatswherethemainnodeis.ItsactuallyShriverAirForceBase.Buttheyalsohavetheirsystemselsewhere.Andpeopleneedtoknowthattheworldthattheybelieveinisafairytalethatneverexisted.Right?BR:Right.BD:Soanyway,thisisatuniversitylevel.Theyhaveasocialmodelingsuper-computerprogram.Andwhattheydois,theytrydifferentperturbations.Theylltryalittlething,putaballoonup,putamediaevent.Andtheyreabletomodelthatbasedongettinginformationback.Theyreabletodospecificsearches,whicharecalledarchitecturalsearches,notallthatdifferentfromtheHalfPastHumanorthePrincetonUniversitykindofeggsthing.TheyreactuallyminingtheInternet;theyreminingphoneconversations.Theyreminingdatafrompeoplescableboxes,whichtheyvecuttwowayssotheycanknowwhattheyrewatching.Andtheyhavewhatscalleddataarchitecturesoftwarethatcanactuallyanalyzeit.

BR:Yep.KC:[Inaudible]BD:....ah,thatsapossibility,thattheycandothat.Butthemostimportantistheyjustknowwhattheyreviewing.Andiftheyknowwhattheyreviewing,whattheboxisturnedonto,theycanactuallyputthisbackintotheirdata.Andtheycanthensay,basedonareacodedistribution,demographics,etc...BR:Yep.BD:Becausepeopleneedtoknowthateveryphoneconversationalwayswasmonitored.Everyfaxalwayswasmonitored.Andtheyhavehadsuper-computers.Andin2003theylaunchedwhatscalledtheAIsystem,whichisan

intelligentsuper-computerwiththeIntelligenceofahumanbeing--inotherwords,asmarthumanbeingbutabletothink10trilliontimesfaster,withtheaccesstoallknownknowledgeandhistoryandacompleteaccesstotheInternetandallthecommunicationspathways.So...KC:Withthatinmind,themodelingtheyaremaking...Theirplan,theiragenda,isgoingtobeplayedoutaswhat?Thebiggestsurprisetheycanthinkof?BD:Well,no.WhattheyaredoisbuildacyberneticcopyoftheEarth.KC:Right.BD:Theycanactuallydomodelswiththatandtrytodowhatscalled

timelinepathwayanalysis.BR:Yep.KC:Right.Buthowdotheychoose?Doyouknowthat?BD:Yeah.BR:Anentirevirtualworld,withvirtualpeople.BD:Inavirtualworld.IactuallytookcareofemployeesworkingonwhatscalledtheSentientWorldProjectinDenver.KC:Yes.ButIstilldontunderstand,youknow,howtheyrechoosingtheirscenario.Inotherwords,weknowthatthefinancialcollapse...BD:Well,theycantryascenarioandtheycanactuallytryitinthe


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cyber-worldandthentheycanseetheresponsebasedon...KC:Right.Buthaveyougottenfeedbackfromsay,secretdeepblackprojects,saying,youknow,theyhavechosenthisscenario?BD:Ah,somethings.Somethings.Yeah.BR:Giveussomeclues,Bill.BD:Well,Illgiveyouanexample.Oneofthefirstthingsis,bydoingthismodeling,itmeansthattheydontdoitinjustakindof...Inotherwords,theyrenotjusttryingitonthepublic.Theytryadifferentthing.Forexample,theyhadtheCountrywidefinancialcollapseearlierthisyear,andthentheyhadthecollapseofLehmanBrothers.Andtheytryeachthing.Andtheytrytoseewhatkindofresponsetheyregettingfromthepublic.Andtheyfeedthatbackintothemodel.Now,whenItookcareofthepeoplethatwereworkingontheSentientWorldProject,theyactuallycreatedacyberneticmodeloftheEarth.Itsanactualphysicalmodelinhyperspacethatisdowntoatoleranceofaboutacentimeter-and-a-half.Alltheroadways,buildings,everything,people.Everybodyinsidethatmodelareactuallyconsidered,called,nodes.Thatstheiractualtermtheyuseforit.BR:Yep.BD:Besidesdoingthesimulatorcomputermodeling,theyreusingothertechnologies.Someofthemarequitealien,ifyouwanttocall

it.BR:Icanbelieveit.BD:Andtheyreusingthesetechnologiessotheycanactuallyanalyzetimelinepathways.Becausewhattheyretryingtodois...KC:SoweretalkingaboutLooking-Glass,then?BD:Yeah.Exactly.And,ofcourse,alotofthepeopledontunderstandthatmostoftheseareactuallybasedonwhatscalledtorsionalvorteximaging,whichishyperdimensionalimaging.BR:Yep.BD:Andtorsionalvorteximagingwevehadsincethe1950s,reverse-engineered.BR:Yep.BD:TorsionalvorteximagingwasthetopprojectofHAARP.Itwas

notthebottomproject;itwasthetopproject.BR:OK.BD:SotorsionalvorteximagingallowsthemtolookthroughtheEarthtoseealltheresources.Sotheprimarythingwastodropathermal-magneticmirrorwithaluminumandbariumsalts.BR:Whichisthechemtrailproject?BD:Yeah.Butitsreallyhigh,73-to80-thousandfeet.Youwontseethese.BR:OK.BD:Andwhentheparticlesareputupthere,theylasttwotothreeyearsinspacebecausetheylayeroutandtheygetlockedintothatlayerattheuppertroposphere.OK?

BR:Yep.BD:Anditactsasamirrorforwhatscalledtorsionalvorteximaging.Sotheycanthrowapulseandseeanechothatcomesbackandtheycanimageit.BR:Igotit.Yep.BD:Sotheycanseeoilresources,gold,minerals,titanium,whatevertheyneed,andtheycanalsoseethroughtheEarthandseeunderground


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bases,cities,facilities.So,forexample,whenSichuan...BR:Someofthisstuffthatisntevenours.BD:Right.Yeah.Andtheycanalsoseestuffthatsnotours.Exactly.TheyseegiantcavesandcavernsystemsthatgohundredsofmilesthroughtheMidwest.BR:Right.BD:Buttheycanalsoseethingslikemilitarybases,liketheChinesenuclearandmilitarymunitionsbasethatwasstruckwithatectonicweaponinSichuan,westChina.Thatwasaspecificuseoftectonictechnology.Right?BR:Yep.Mmhm.BD:Now,wehaveourversionofit.AndtheRussianshaveanewsystemcalledasuper-capacitortechnology,sotheywereabletomakethesevery,verypowerfulcapacitorsthatcangeneratesimilarthingstoourHAARPtechnology.Right?KC:OK.Butwherearetheygoingwiththis?Thatsactuallywhatwe...BD:Yeah.Well,wheretheyregoingwithallthis...Justtogiveyouanidea:Thefirstthingis,youhavetolookatthemenuofwhattheyhave.Andtheytryvariousitems,trytoperturbateonnewcomputermodeling.Andthentheydecidewhethertheyregoingtoproceednoworinthenearfuture.Like,alotofpeoplesay:Well,whyhasnttherebeen

another9/11?BR:Mmhm.BD:Right?Another...likeblowingupcitiesordoingotherthings?Becauseforyearstheyvebeendoingwar-gamesimulationsofa10-kilotonnukeinanumberofcities.Forexample,thisyearitwasinPortlandHarbor,andlastyearitwasinCharlestonHarbor,wheretheyactuallydidasimulationofa...AnditwasnotjusttheU.S.ItwastheU.S.,British,andCanadians,wheretheyweredoingajointwar-gamessimulationofthis,andtryingtoseethecivildefense,andtheradiationplume,andthemovementof

thepublicand,youknow,howtohandlethebodies,andallthiskindofstuff.Sotheyredoingallofthat.Theydothisonmultiplelevelsandtheyfeedthedatabackintotheirsuper-computerstodecidewhatwillworkbest.Oneofthethingsthatwedid...Backinthelate90s,IwasadoctorforRockyMountainOccupationalMedicine,andwegotthecontractfortheHazmatteamsinColorado,fortheFBIandtheCentersforDiseaseControltodoawar-gamesimulationcalledOperationTopOffandOperationDarkWinter.WedidasimulationatthePerformingArtsCenter,onasimulatedrelease,notarealrelease,ofpneumonicplague.Andwewantedto

lookatthekillratio,intermsofhowquicklythesystemcouldbeactivated--theEMSsystem--tobeabletogetpeopleandtreatthemandtriagethemandwhatever.Andwedidasimilaronedownon17thAvenue,downtownDenver,inasecond-floorwindowofanapartment.Andweevensetupasprayertosprayoutthewindow,withalittlecompressedair,alittlevaporstream,whichwassupposedlyanthrax.So,itwouldbeaweaponizedanthraxstreamthatwouldactuallysprayoutthatsecond-floorwindow.


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Andthatanthraxstreamwouldthen...Wewouldthenhavepeoplego...WehadtheHazmatofficersandSpecialForces,andtheywouldgotovarioushospitals,likeSt.Joes,Presbyterian,St.Lukes,etcetera.Andwetriedtosee,withrecordingallthesedataintakesheets,whetherornot,NumberOne,emergencydepartmentswouldactivateCDC,gettheproperspecimens,getthepeopletreatedinatimelyfashionsotheywouldntdie.Wekilledeverybody.BR:OK.KC:Whydidyoukilleverybody,though?BD:Wekilledeverybodybecausethesystemwastooinadequate.TheEmergencydepartmentdoctors,theinfectiousdisease,theactivationofthesystem...Thetrackingbacktothesourceofthespraywouldhavebeentoolong.Soiftherewasalethalweaponizedanthrax--itonlyneeds,letssay,80sporestocausealethalinfectionratherthan80,000to100,000thatwefiguredoutfromthedispersalatthatlevelonthecanyonof,say,17thAvenue,wouldhavekilledatleast4-to5-thousandpeoplethatwere,duringthemiddleoftheday,wouldhavebeenexposed.BR:Right.BD:Now,thereasonwhyIbringupthatmodelisthattheyredoing

thisallthetimewiththeircyberneticsmodels,becausetheyretryingtosteersocietyalongcertaintimelines.Andtheyhavevariousforces.AllthepeopleinthisyouhearthewordNewWorldOrder--theyrenotinagreement.Andtherearevariouslevels.Andmostofemthinkthattheyreatthetopofwhateverleveltheyreat,andtheyrereallyatthebottomofanotherlevel.OK?Eventhepeopleatthetopthatarehuman.BecausetheNewWorldOrderisnotbeingrunbyhumans.BR:Yes.BD:OK?BR:Exactly.

BD:Andyouneedtograspthis.TheanalogyIuseonmyshowis...IntheirtraininginEngland,aspartofapowergame,theydbringyoutotheirgardens.Andtheirgardenerwouldkindofmakealittlemaze.Andthenyoudgothroughthelittlemazeandthoughtyouwerequitecleverbecauseyoudgetoutinamatterofmoments.Andthenwhattheyddois,theydtakeyoutothebigmaze,whichwasdonebyaveryclevergardener.Andtheonlywayyoucouldgetoutwasifyouweretalkedout.BR:OK.BD:OK.Ifyouwerenttalkedout,youwouldntmakeitoutofthe

maze,andyoudbestucktheretheentireafternoonandwouldnthaveteaoranything.Right?BR:OK.BD:Sothethingwastohumiliateyoutorealizetherewasnowayyoucouldgetoutofthebigmazeunlessyouchangedyourparadigmofhowtogetoutofthemaze.Right?BR:Verygood.Right.BD:Andwhattheyredoingbasicallyis,theyre...Inasensetheyresheepdippingtheentiresocietytokindofbuyintothe


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liesofwhatsgoingon.Peopledontknowwhatkindof...Youknow,evenmodernhistoryhascompletelybeenrewritten.Everything...BR:Butthereissomewakingupgoingon,whichyouneedtoalsofactorin.BD:Yes,thereis.BR:Itsalsobeingfactoredin.BD:Sureitis.Andthatswhytheresbeenquiteadelay.Infact,ifyoulookatthepublisheddocuments,likeGlobal2000,aboutpopulationreduction;ifyoulookattheplannedreleaseofthingslikeavianflu;ifyoulookattheplanningonblowingupcitieswithdirtybombsormicro-nukes,ordoingotherthings,theyrewaybehindschedule.BR:ThisalsomeansthattheyvealsoprogrammedintheNutrimedicalReportandtheProjectCamelotinterviews.Andtheyretakingallofthatintoaccountandthenrecalculatingeverything.Right?BD:Ah,welltheyare.Buttheproblemisthattheresanumberofwildcardsthatthey'renotincontrolof.BR:Whichare?BD:Well,lotsofwildcards.BR:OK.BD:Thefirstoneisthehumanone.Humanbeingsareapolydimensionalbeingthatfartranscendswhatpeopleusuallythinkofashuman.

Justtogiveyoukindof...Tobackupintermsofalittlephysics:Ourplaneofexistence,theenergeticplane,hasfivedimensions,notfour.OK?BR:Yep.BD:Thenthespiritualplanehassevendimensions.Somepeoplecallthatastral.Andthenthereisthe13th,whichistheeternal.OK?Andeverythingareharmonicsofthat.Thatswhy...Theverynatureoftheexistenceitselfisliterallythepassageofspiritthroughenergeticplanesthatcreatesamontage.BR:Wellbuyallofthat.Andwhatwearehere,whatIseeinmyfieldofvision,isthetinytipofahugeiceberg.BD:Right.

BR:Yeah.Andtheicebergisabeautiful,fantasticwonderfuleternalthing.BD:Right.Exactly.Inotherwords,thismomentthatsexistingrightnowaswearetaping,hasalwaysexisted.BR:Yeah.Illbuythat.KC:Absolutely.Timeiscircular.ButBill,whatIwantedtoknowis,whatareyousayingtheyaregoingtodowiththis?Becauseobviouslyiftheyrebehindschedule...Andhereweare,attheendofSeptember,andwevegottheAmericaneconomygoinginthetank.BD:Right.KC:Andsowhatsthenextstep?

BD:Well,hereyouvegottothinkaboutwhattheirgoalis.Itsalmostlikeamousethatreachescertainbarriers,asmartmouse.Youputcertainbarriersdown,butamousecanstillsmellthecheese.Itllgetaroundthatbarrieranditllfigureouthowtodoit.Andifitsaveryintuitivemouse,itcanseebeyondthebarriertowherethepathwayistogettothecheese.Andifitsgotlotsofaccess,thenitsgoingtodothat.Right?BR:Right.BD:SowhatIseeisthis.Theirgoalistohaveaworldbank.Theirgoalistohaveregionalizedcurrencyzones.Theypublishedit.In


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fact,oneofthethingsthatyouhavetounderstand--whichisreallybizarrebutalsotrue--isthatpartthereligion,ifyouwanttocallit,orthedogma,oftheglobalistsistoprovethattheyareasuperclass,orthepredatorclass,whohavetherighttomakethesedecisions.Becausetheyhavetopublishit,andtheprofanedontunderstandit.Butitsplainlypublished.LikeforexampleinSeptemberof1973,theCouncilonForeignRelations...BR:Itsallinplainsight.BD:Itsallinplainsight.KC:LiketheIronMountainReport,forexample.BD:Yeah.Orthe1974documentthattalkedaboutthegreatestdangertotheworldispopulationgrowth.OrtheGlobal2001...BR:TheGeorgiaGuidestones.BD:Exactly.Itsallinplainsight.Andtheproblemisthatpeoplewilllookatitandsay:Well,itcantbetruebecauseitsinplainsight.Itsalmostlike,ifyouwanttosay:Itsabattleship.Andtheysay:Well,itspaintedpink.Itcantbeabattleship.Itsgotplantscomingoutofalltheturrets.[Billlaughs]Eventhoughitisabattleshipanditsinthefrontyard.[morelaughter]KC:Whataliens,though,arerunningtheshow,inyouropinion?BD:Well,ImgoingtogettothatbecauseImgoingtogiveyoua

littledifferentspin.Whatwehavetodoisusealotofdiscernment.Theresbasicallytwoperspectivesintheuniverse--andthisiswhetheryourehumanornonhuman.Whatweareoranyothersentientbeingintheuniverseisaspirit-beingthatstranscendingthroughanenergymatrix,creatingareality.OK?Inotherwords,weareco-creatorsofourowntimelineandfuture.BR:Absolutely.BD:AndifyoulookatpeoplelikeMichioKakuandadvancedphysicistsandsoon,theytalkabouttheuniverseintermsofenergy.Youknow,likeaZeroEnergyculture,andtheLevelOneenergy

culture,aculturethatisabletoleapacrossthegalaxyandisboundbytimeandspace.Butyoucanalsousethosesimilarprinciplesfor,youknow--similarkindsofcharacteristics--fordealingwithwhatIcallthespiritualityofasentientcivilization.Right?BR:Right.BD:Soyouneedtouseboththeenergythingandtheyaretiedtogether.BR:Yep.BD:Becausethereslotofsuppressionofthetechnologythatwealreadyhave,becausespirituallywearevery...whatIcallaZero

Orderculture.BR:Yep.BD:Werestillintheplaypenorthecribofcivilizationandwevebeenactuallyquarantinedfor3shars,whichisZechariaSitchenspassagesthroughthegalacticplaneoffire,itscalled.ThetwoperspectivestieinwitheitherbeingintouchwiththatHigherSelf,whichistheIAM,theonethatsaysLettherebelight,thespiritthatsinus.Andallgreatspiritualleadersthatspoketruththattheyknewintheirheart--whetheritwasBuddhaorZoroasterorwhatever--all


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ofthesegreatleadershavespokensomething.Andmanytimesitsbeenconverted,orperverted,ortwisted.Ortheythemselvesdidnthavethewholetruth,theyjusthadportionsofit,sothenitbecameareligion.Now,religionisasubstituteforrelationship.BR:Yep.BD:AndIcallitrealliesgoingon.AnditdoesntmatterifyouretalkingaboutBuddhism,Christianity,Judaism,Zoroastrianism,Atheism.Alltheismsintheworldfallintotwocategories:EitheryouheartheVoiceofthespiritthatcreatedyouandcreatedallthatexists,thecontinuum--becausewithoutasinglevoicethereisnouniverse--oneIvoice,Icallit.ThereisnooneIvoice.So,therefore,itseitheryourwillthewillof,inotherwords,decidingforyourselfwhatisgoodorevil--orhearingtheVoice.Inotherwords,youdontneedtotellpeoplewhatsrightorwrong.IftheyreincontactwiththeirhigherselfandwiththeCreatorthatcreatedthem,theyknowwhatsrightorwrong.BR:OK.Now,justbringthatbacktowhereyouwerewhenyouweretalkingaboutthewildcardfactorsofwhopeoplereallyare--thisismyparaphraseofwhatyouweresaying--andhowtherearecertainthingsthatcantbeprogrammedintotheirsuper-computer,because,actually,youretalkingaboutactualhumanbeingsthatareeternal

andmagical.BD:Exactly.Andyouseethatpointtiesinwiththefactions,ifyouwanttocallit.Youknow,youcangotoallkindsofdifferentreligiousbooks,whetheritstheHopiIndiansortheChristianBibleormanyotherbooks,andtheylltellyouthattheresbeenvisitationstoEarthoveralloftheages.BR:OK.Now...BD:Andthewayittiesintothisisthatsomeofthesevisitorshavespecificcharacteristicsthatareverycommon.Forexample,Naga,intheareaofOceania.Right?Whichare,youknow,theserpentpeopleor

thefeatheredserpentgod,orwhatever.Whatyoullfind...OrtheDagon,whichis,youknow,theamphibianbeingsthatcomefromaworld.Andtherefore,eventhehat,forexample,thatsonthePope,isactuallycalledthesignofDagon,whichisafish-godorOannes...BR:Yes.Yes.KC:OK.Right.But...BD:...whichisalwaysinthebackground,inotherwords.BR:Rightnowtherewillbepeoplewatchingthiswhosay:IknowImeternalandmagical,andImreallyinterestedinwhatyouresaying.SowhatcanIdo?HowcanIbe?WhatactioncanItaketocapitalizeonmywildcardsotheymaynotbeabletopredictwhatImgoingtodonext?

BD:Yeah,whatImtryingtogetat...Youknow,Ihearlotsofdifferentreports,thatpeoplesay:IvebeenintouchwiththePleiadiansorAndromedans,orImintouchwiththisgrouporthatgroup.Butpeopleneedtouseextreme,extremediscernment.BR:Yep.BD:AndthewayIthinkaboutitisthis.Say,youknow,ifyouwenttoanewcity.LetssayyouwerefromSouthAfricaandyoucametoNewYorkCity,andyoudidntknowwheretogo,butyouwenttothewrongpartofthecity.Youmightnotcomebackoutalive.OK?BR:Right


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BD:Andasimilarthing...Youhavetothinkoftheuniversethatway,too.BR:Yep.BD:Theresverygoodplacesintheuniverse,andverybad.BR:Yes.BD:OK?Justthinkofitthisway.Anybeingthatscapableofleapingacrossspace/timeandarrivinginourworld,youhavetoassumethattheirintelligenceislimitlesslygreaterthanours.Andthereforeanythingthattheycommunicatetouscouldeitherbeverytrueorvery,verymaliciouslymanipulatedtocontrolus,almostlikeapack.BR:Exactly.BD:Inotherwords,wewouldbetreatedlikeanant,orcockroachorlikemypetdogs.Theywouldhavenowayofevenunderstandingwhatweretalkingabout,soitwouldbealmostsport.Right?BR:Yes.KC:Exceptthat,iftheyrethatintelligent,theyalsorealizethatweregrandspiritualbeingsinourownrightandthereforetheyreactuallydealingwithsomethingthatsmuchmoremassivethanjustour3-dimensionalform.BD:Exactly,exactly.Heresthepoint,though.Youvegottwoperspectivesoutthere.Youvegotonegroup--wellcallthem,justforthesakeofit,youknow,likeDavidIcke.HewasspeakingattheUFOConferenceupinSanFrancisco.HecallsthemtheReptilians.OK?

Oryoumightcallthemtheserpents,likeittalksaboutintheBible.OK?Andinfact,youvegottounderstandthatwhenyoulookattheBibleatthingsthatareadescriptiontopeoplethatwereshepherdsandartisans2-to3-thousandyearsago.Right?Oryoulookatotherancientbooks...Andwhattheyrereallytryingtodescribehereissomethingthatsactuallyquitesimilartowhatshappeningtoday.Soletssaywehaveonegroupthatsays:Weareapredatorysuper-nationofsuper-scientiststhatdonthaveanyspirit,butweinvadeandtakeoverworlds.BR:Hum.BD:Wecaninvadethemind-spacedimension.Wecanattackonthe

physicallevel.Wecanputpoliciesinplacetocutofftheconnectionbetweentheirphysicalbodyandtheirspiritualbody--throughthingslikefluoridationandgeneticallymodifiedfoodorelectromagneticpollution.KC:SoareyousuggestingthatitistheReptiliansthatareinvolvedwiththecurrentIlluminati?BD:Well...Yeah,yeah,yeah.KC:Thistypeofagenda?BD:Ofcourse.Yeah.ItsjustnodifferentthanwhattheBiblehasbeensayingallalong,--theserpentine.

KC:Right.SoIwanttosortofbaseithereinthehere-and-nowalittlebitsowecanunderstandwhatyouretalkingabout.BD:Right.Alotoftimes,though,theymisjudgeit.Becauseforexample,when...Davidsdonealotofreallygoodwork.Butoneofthetimes...Ifyoudontknowwhatyoureseeingbecauseyouveneverseenanythinglikeitbefore...Whathedidis,hetookathingcalledayahuasca,whichisananalogofdimethyltriptamine.Andayahuascaanddimethyltriptamineopensupwhatscalled,youknow,thespiriteye.Peoplecallitthethirdeye,theastraleye,orwhatever.


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Butbasicallyitis,wereallbornaschildrenwiththisabilitytoseeinthespiritrealm.Andthatswhychildrenseetheirlittlefriends,andseeotherthings,andseegoodandbad.Andtheyhaveathingcalledpavornocturnus,ornightterrors,becausetheycanseeinthespiritrealmthingsthatarentpleasant.Theyreverynasty.Right?BR:Yes.BD:Theyrenotjustmakingitupintheirlittlemindsbecausetheyvegothormonesurges.Theyreactuallyhavingaproblem.SothereasonwhyIseemtobealittlecircuitoushereisthatpeoplemisinterpretthesignals.Forexample,afterDavidwentandtookayahuascadowninSouthAmerica,andhegotintothisalteredstate,hestartedseeingwhathemisinterpretedasshape-shifting.Shape-shiftingdoesntoccur.BR:Well,hehadntseenitsomuchhimself,ashewastakingreportsfromArizonaWilderandothers.BD:Yeah.BR:Andothers,andtakingthoseatliteralfacevalue.Thatsmyunderstanding.AndIhavenocriticismofhimwhatsoever.BD:No,no.Imnotcriticizing.BR:Imveryinterestedinyourtakeonthis.BD:Well,OK.Herestheimportantpartofit.ItsnottocriticizehimbecauseIthinkwhathesdoing,hesseeinginthespiritual

realmwhatsalwaysthere.BR:Right.BD:Andwhentheresanintensityofthatreality,itbreaksthrough,forpeopleeventhatdonthaveany,youknow,regularsensitivity.Soforexample,youknow,IvetalkedtopeoplewhohavebeeninthepresenceofHillaryRodhamClinton.BR:Right.BD:AndHillaryClintonhasapresenceofademonicentity,ifyouwanttocallitthat,atransdimensionalReptilianentitythatssopowerful...ItsoneofthemostnegativefeelingsIveeverhad.OK?BR:Mmhm.Andyouvebeeninherphysicalpresenceyourself?BD:Ohyeah.IwasoneofthedoctorswhotookcareoftheEnglewoodFireDepartmentandthefirstkidwhowasshotinColumbine,Mark

Taylor,andwespentabout,probablyanhourorso,attheDakotaRidgeHighSchool.And...BecauseIdoseeintothespiritualrealm.OK?Andthathappensmanytimesafterpeoplehavehadneardeathexperiences.Idiedatbirthandagainat8-.Andbecauseofthat,theresamassivereleaseofDMT.Andwhenthathappens,itchangesyourbrainstructureandtheverynatureofhowyouperceivethings.Ifithappenswhenyourereallyyoung,itdoesitatatimewhenyoucanunderstandandinterpretthings.Ifithappenswhenyoureolder,youcanmisinterpretthings.BR:Interesting.Yep.Gotcha.

BD:Didyoufollowme?BR:YesIdid.BD:Whichisthereasonwhywhenyougotoanyreligiousgroupyoullfindthatitsalwayschildrenthatareexposedtothingslikethissothattheycanunderstandthembetter.Otherwise,youknow,youcanbecreepedoutifallofasuddenandstartseeingthingsandyousay:Welllook,Ivelostmymind.Imnotrationalanymore.KC:OK.Butyouresaying,intermsofHillary,youreactuallydescribingwhatyouconsidertobeademonicentityasopposedtoaReptilian.Isthatwhatyouresaying?


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BD:Oh,itsaReptilianallright.Whenyouseeit,yourenotseeinga5-foot-whateverfemale.YoureseeingagiantReptilianentitythatsinadifferentdimension.KC:Exactly.ButbecauseitsaReptilianentitydoesntnecessarilymakeitdemonic.BD:Ah,well,letsputitthisway...KC:ItsstillanETfromadifferentdimension.BD:Well,thiswasevil.Thisisevil,yeah.Thisisevil.Whatpeopleneedtounderstandisthattheresavastuniverseoutthere.Justlistentoalotofthescientists--andeverybodythatsprobablylisteningtothiswillunderstand.Ifyoujust...TheyrelookingforbacteriaonMars.AndtheyrelookingforotherevidencethattheresevensimplelifeformsonTitanandotherplanets,andplanetoids,andsoon.Thefactis,ifyoujusttaketheminimumnumberoffactors,theres100-billionstarsjustinthisgalaxy,andtheresa100-billion-billiongalaxies.Andthatsinthisso-calledknowncosmos,inthisknowncosmos,whichinasenseisprobablyanelementalparticleinayetlargeruniverse.Right?BR:Right.Yep.Yep.BD:Right.[laughs]KC:Well,ImstillbackwhereyouweresayingthatDavidIckewaswrongbecause...BD:Well,wrongbecauseIthink...

KC:Wrongbecausehewasseeingreptiliansandyouweresayingtheydontshape-shift?BD:Yeah.Well,thingshavetoalsomatchscience,too,becauseifyouhaveashape-shiftfromasmallerindividualtoaphysicalpresence,thatis,youknow,agiantReptilian,orwhatever,youregoingtoactuallyhave...Thethermodynamiclawswillcausespontaneouscombustion.Itjustwouldntoccur.Sowhatyouhavetodois...Unlesstherearechangesinthelawsofphysics,whichisntgoingtooccur,thenyouhave...Whatyoureseeingissomethingthatscompletely,youknow...doesntoccur.KC:Whatyoucansee,though,is,yourperceptionischangingandyoureabletoseeintodifferentdimensionssimultaneously.BD:Yeah,thatsanabilityto...

KC:Sotheyarentchanging.Yourvisionischanging.Yourabilitytoseeischangingwhenyourelookingatthem.BD:Yeah...Yeah.Now,alotofthetimepeoplehavetousethesekindofthings.NowthebiggestproblemIamworriedaboutisthat,whentheresalackofdiscernment,theregetstobeamixedmessage.Andsomanymessageshavealotofnoiseinthemthatpeoplewontgetaclearunderstandingofeithertheopportunitiesorthedangersofwhatsgoingon.KC:Sure.BD:Andsoyoullhavepeople,forexample,likeArizonaWilderandothers,thatsaytheyveseenthesethingshappenrightinthemiddleofceremoniesorwhatever.Andwhattheydontunderstandisthattheintensityissogreat,theyreactuallyseeingintothespiritrealm

thatshappeninginaparalleluniverse.KC:Yes.BR:Right.Itstheirperceptionthatsbeingaltered,notthephysicalreality.BD:Itsnotphysicalreality.Yeah.KC:Weretappingintothat.Butatthesametime,letstalkabouthowdoesthatimpacttheIlluminatiagenda?BecausewevegotalotofReptilianswhoreinfluencingthatagenda.BD:Well,letmeexplainwhathappens.Ifyoulookatallthesecretsocietiesdownthroughhistory--notjustinourcurrenthistoryin


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thelast6,000years,butbasicallyprettywellallofhumanhistory,goingbacktopreviouscivilizationsthathaverisenandfallen--therehasbeenthis,ifyouwanttocallit,darkalliance.OK?Nowthedarkalliancehasbeen,basically,withhigherordersofthesesecretordersthatitspasseddownthrough.Inthemostrecentpast,goingbackthelast6,000years,itwastheancientSumeriansandtheEgyptians.Allthehighestrulersofthosecivilizationswouldputtheirchildrenthroughsex-magicrituals,humansacrifice,andotherthings,sotheywouldcreate,ifyouwanttocallit,anastralgateintheirmind,sotheycouldattachthesetransdimensionalentitiestothem,almostlikethesucker-fishontheshark.OK?Andyoucouldnotadvancewithinanyofthesehigherordersunlessyouwentthroughtheseceremonies.So...KC:Svalitalksaboutthis,actually,andsodoesLeoZagami.BD:Right.Sowhathappensis,forexample...IfyouregoingtogettothesehigherorderswithintheIlluminatiyouactuallyhavetogothroughtheseritualsinorderforyouandyour...Thegreatestpowerisforyourancestorstoactuallycurseyoutobeattachedbythesethings,togainmorephysical,psychic,emotional

andintellectualpowers.Sothen,therefore,youcanbecomeahu-man--which,inWelsh,isserpentman.AndifyoulookattheMagnaCarta,itwaswrittennotforthemansters--whichisthewordmanster,whichconvertedtomonster--itwasforserpent-manortheRoyals,thosewhohadgonethroughtheceremonies,whowerehu-manswhichmeansserpent-men,andhadthetransdimensionalsliterallyattachedtothemalmostlikeaparasite,apsychicparasite,tocreateahu-manwhichisanew,ifyouwanttocallit,hybrid.Clayandiron.Inotherwords,youhavetheironoftheserpentinetransdimensionalbeingswiththeirhigherscienceandabilitiesandso

on,literallyattachedtothemantocreateahu-man.KC:OK.SobasicallyyouvegotIlluminatiwiththisproclivity,whateveryouwanttocallit.Andthenwhathappens?Becausethatswherewearenowwithsociety.Thesepeoplehavebeenleadingtheway--ifyouwanttocallitleading--downadarkcorridor,sotospeak.BD:Theyconsiderthemselves...Yousee,oneoftheproblemsisamatterofperception.Ifyoufeelinyourowntwistedway...Youredecidingwhatisrightorwrong,andyoufeelyouhavetherighttodecide,andyourethekeeperofcivilization.Forexample,ifyoulookatthetunicontheTeutonicKnights.Right?Youllseethesestrangeswingingarmsinaformofacross.ThatsnotaChristiancross.ThatcrosswaslongbeforeJesusChrist,long

beforetherewasthefirstJew,longbeforeEgyptandSumeria.ItgoeswaybacktoAtlantisandbefore.KC:OK.Youretalkingabouttheswastikaaswell.Right?BD:Theswastikaisalittledifferentsymbol,butthatcrossactuallyisasymbolcalledAsabove/below.OK?Sowhatyouredoingis,yourelookingattheswingingarmsofagalaxy,aboveandbelowtheequinoxes.Thatswhatyoureseeingthere.OK?KC:Sohereweareatthisjuncture.Wereactuallymovingintothegalacticcenter.


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BR:But,but...BD:Right.Soweremovingnotonlythroughtheplane,butatanequinox.Sowehavethepassagethroughtheplane.Andanequinoxhasveryimportanteffects,notjustonthephysicalplane,becausewereenteringanenergybeltwhichaffectstheDNA.Itaffectslifeforms,communicationsandeverything.Butitalsoaffectsthespiritualaspectsofthecreaturesontheplanet.Butitalsoopensupgates.BR:Bringthisbacknowtotheproblemsofdiscernment,tothewildcardfactorsthathavegottodowiththeeternalmagicalcreaturesthatweare,andhowthiscantbemodeledinthesuper-computer.Andthenagain,whattheydothinktheyaretrying--orwhatyoudothinktheyaretryingtodowithusoverthenextfewweeksandmonths.Isthereawaytoalignthisinformationinawaythatitspracticallymeaningfultopeopleoutthere,whoactually,aswespeak,arethinking:WhatdoIdowithmyjob,myfamily,mymoney,myoccupation?BD:Yeah.Iwanttogettothat,too.BR:Therearepracticalproblemstosolvehere.BD:Yeah.ThefirstthingIthink,numberone,istheyhavetodiscern...Numberone:AmIinvolvedwithareligion,realliesgoingon,oramIinvolvedwithspirituality?AndImnotnecessarilygoingtoputalabelonitortellemwhichone.BR:Right.

BD:WhatItrytotellemisthat...Forexample,Imabeliever,butifIgotoachurchImgoingtocausetrouble,becauseIknowthingsthattheycantknow,wontknow,thataregoingtoshowthatalotofthingsthattheyreteachingarepatentlylies.OK?KC:Ofcourse.BD:And,unfortunatelyitisntjustonegrouporanother.Imclosestalliedto,ifyouwanttocallit,Imlikeacosmicmessianicbeliever.AndIdontevenliketousethewordChristian,becauseitwasactuallyablasphemyagainstChristiansandtheirlittleanointedones.BR:Yeah.Thattermsalreadybeenhijackedlongago.BD:Right.Itwashijacked.Now,heresthepoint.Ifyouactuallyunderstandthesplitintheso-calledeasternandwesternchurch,you

understandthereasonwhytheressuchadeterminationtonotonlyhijackJudiasm,andChristianityandIslam,andwhythisisallkindofleadingustowardwhatscalledthisfinalconflictofArmageddon.Itsbeenstage-managedatahigherlevel.Right?BR:Right.KC:Right.BD:Itsallstaged-managed.Andtheproblemis,peopledontunderstandtheyrebeingmanipulated,eventhoughtheireverystepisbeingmanipulated.Ohyeah,wevegottogetAl-Quaeda.Well,youknow,whocreatedAl-Quaeda?Whenyoustartshowingthatthesethingsweretotallymanufactured.AndAl-Quaedameansthedatabase.KC:Yeah.BD:ButwhenyoushowevidencethattheWorldTradeCentertowers

weredemolishedwithadvancedexplosives,including,youknow,micro-nukes,andthermite;oryoustarttodemonstratethatthefinancialline--likeJohnBoncore,whosaMohawk,whoactuallyspeaksprophetically.Hewasontheshowlastweek.ThewayIwantpeopletodois,firstoff,dontacceptsomethingunlessitsintellectuallycorrect,atwhateverleveltheyareat,andunlesstheygobackquietlyandprayandtrytoheartheVoiceoftheCreatorGod.KC:Mmhm.BD:Becausetheproblemrightnowisthattheressomuchnoise,its


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discernmenttokeeptheminbabble-onorconfusion...BR:Yeah.BD:...sotheywontbeabletodiscernortheylljustdismissit.Andtheyllsay:Look,youpeoplethattalkaboutUFOsarenuts.OK?Ifsomebodyhadtoldmethisyearsago,Idsay:Yourecrazy,theresnoway.And,youknow,goingthroughmedicalschooltraining,surgery,whatever,Idsaytheresnowaythatthatcouldbetrue.Becausemymindisnowfocused.Imgoingtobeadoctor;Imgoingtohelppeople;Imgoingtodothisandthat.Imgettingaccesstothetotalityofhumanknowledgeandscience,andImgoingto...Atsomefuturedateweregoingtobeabletohelpcurepeopleofdiseaseandsoon--notknowingthatonly4%ofinformationisaccessedtoeventheuniversityPh.D.tenuredprofessoriallevel,atthetoplevelsintheworld,andtheother96%isbyinvitationonly.BR:Right.[laughs]BD:Right?Orthatsociety...Andwhenyouvebeeninvitedtoenterthoserealms,thenyoustarttorealize,like:Mygosh!Yourwholeworldisshattered.Right?Andthatswhatsdisturbingaboutthis,andImtryingtogetthemessagetothepeople.Thehardestistoarguewithpeople.IrememberhavinganargumentayearandahalfagowithProfessorStevenJones,whofeltthatthermatecouldhavebroughtdowntheWorldTradeCentersalone.

And,ofcourse,untiltheyvehadabackgroundinquantumphysicsandnuclearphysics--IwassupposedtogotoMITandIwentintohonorsbiochemistry--Iaskedhimaseriesofquestionsthathecouldntansweronascientificground.Buthewantedtoclingtohisaprioriideaanyway.Eventhoughthereisprobablyevidenceitwasthermate,therehadtobenuclearexplosions.Therecouldhavenotbeendirectedenergyweapons.AndItriedtoexplaintohim.BecauseIwasadoctorforUSSpaceCommandandStrategicDefense,StarWars.AndIsaid:Ivetalkedtotheengineersatveryhighlevels,andIknowexactlywhatscapableandwhatwehave.KC:OK.Youhaveareallyinterestingbackground.OK?BD:Right.

KC:Butalotofpeoplesay:Well,youreworkingforthem.BD:Yeah.Iknowtheyllsaythat,butwhatpeopleneedtodois,they...Ultimately,theyneedtodoisanintellectualanalysisandtheyneedtopray.Theyneedtotrusttheirgut,inotherwords,theirspiritualgut.KC:Sohowdidyougetoutofit?Becauseinasenseyoudidworkforthem.Right?Youweretheirdoctor.BD:Well,Iwastheirdoctor.Buthereswhathappened.Peoplearesocompartmentalized.Togiveyouanexample:InitiallyItalkedtosomeoneworkingat,sayFalcon.Andtheyhadalittlebadgethatwould

allowthemtogointoonehallway,anddownonepathway,intooneroomwithasecuritycard.Andtheydface-scanthemwitharetinalscan,andfingerprintscanthem,andboom,theygointheirroom.Andtheydspendsomanyhoursthereandtheydwalkdownthesamepathway.Andtheyweremonitoredalltheway.KC:Theyhadtofollowlines.Isntthatright?BD:Theyhadtofollowcertainlinesonthefloor,andiftheydont,theyreimmediatelyapprehended.Anditsnotpleasant.OK?Sotheyreveryhighlycompartmentalized.


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Soyoucantalktoyourdoctor.Now,theseguysreallylovedbeingabletotalktomebecausewhatIwoulddois,Iwouldtalktoallthedifferentpeople.AndbecauseIhavethisadvancedtechnicaltraining,whichtheyneverassumedIdid--likeyouknow,artificialintelligence,super-computers,electronics,quantumphysics,andotherthings--Idtalktothemabouttheirproject.AndafterwhiletheyweremoreinterestedinhearingwhatIhadtotellthemaboutwhateverybodyelsewasdoingandprojectsthattheydidntknowanythingabout.SoastimewentonIgainedmoreandmoreknowledge.BR:Yeah.Anditcontinuedtrainingyouwhatquestionstoaskandyouknewhowtolisten.BD:Right.Theywantedtotalkbecausetheycouldnttelltheirwives.Theywerentallowedtotellanybody,theirson,theirwife,theirchildren,anybody,ortheirnextdoorneighbor.KC:Soyougetthisaggregateofinformation.Andontopofit,youvehadtheselife-deathexperiences.BD:Right.Andsome,whatIdcallsupernatural,andsomeothertypesofexperiencesthatallfittogether.KC:OK.Youreputtingallofthistogetherandthenyoueventually

createthisradioshow.Right?Andyoureinterviewingwitnessesandsoon.Butwhereareyouatnow,aswetakethiswholepackage?Andyouvegotsomethingtosayherebecauseyoucalledusand...BD:RightKC:AndIfindthisveryinteresting.BD:Wellactually,Iwastoldtocallyou.KC:Youweretoldtocallus.BD:Iwastoldtocallyou.KC:Wonderful.BR:By?KC:Byyourdirectcontactabove?BD:Yeah.Ifyouwanttocallitthat.Ihavethedirectphoneline.KC:Yourenottheonlyonethatsbeentoldthatwaytocallus.

BD:Yeah,yeah,Iwastoldtocallyouandthatitwastimetocallyou,notanhourfromnow,butrightnow.AndIdid.OK?Sothats,youknow,interesting.Andthingsalwayshappenlikethattome,youknow.KC:Theydo?BD:IfItoldyouallthestoriesyoucouldfillbooks,youdhavestacksoftapesofamazingstories.KC:OK.BD:Youdsay:Thatcanthappen;andthatcanthappen.Butithas.KC:Allright.BR:Iwanttobringitbackto:whataretheymodeling?KC:Yes.[laughter]BD:Yeah,yeah.

BR:Andwhatabouttheseguyswiththeirchildrenandtheirmoney?Yeah.OK.Fine.BD:Well,yeah.AndImgoingtogettothat.SobasicallyIwantpeopletodiscern,tousediscernment,andIm...KC:Therefore,whydoyouthinkyouweretoldtocallus?BD:AtthemomentIhadnoidea.OK?[Billlaughs]KC:OK.Anddoyouhaveanideanow?BD:Yeah.Ihaveaverygoodidea.KC:Yeah?Anddoyouwanttotellus,ordoyouwanttogodownthatroad?


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BD:Yeah,anyway...[laughter]WhatpeoplehavetounderstandisthathumanbeingsareasupernaturaltransdimensionalbeingthatsmadeintheimageoftheCreatoroftheuniverse,justliketheBiblesays.OK?KC:Absolutely.BD:Butnotonlythat,werelikecellsinabody.Andwereconnected,almostlikeneurons.Sothatifwegettoalevelofrevelation,itsnotjustforourownpurposetousegreedily;itstoservetheentirebodyofmankind.Andthebestwaytothinkofmankindisnotjust,youknow,inthisplaneoftime/space,butmankindisanon-localbeingthatstretchesacrossthecosmos,andintothepast,presentandfuture.OK?Sowhenyoustarttograspthatandyouhavethatintuitive...ThatswhyItellpeople...WhenItrytodotalks,Isay:Youknow,therearetwogroupsofreligionsonEarth.Theresthosethatbelieveinreincarnationandthosethatdontbelieveinreincarnation.Right?Andthereasonis,theyrebothrightandwrong.KC:OK.BD:Andthereasonis,forthem,thatstheirlevelofunderstandingbecausethatswheretheyreat.Whenyoubecometrulyintuitiveatthehighestlevels,theresnosuchthingasreincarnation.KC:Sure,becausewereeternalbeings.BD:Right.Onceyoustartgraspingthat,itslikethewordsof

YeshuaHa'MashiachJesusthatsays,youknow,Thoughyoudoittotheleastofmybrothers,youhavedoneittome.IfyouactuallyfeltthepainofallowingyourgovernmenttoattackandblowuplittlegirlsinBaghdad,youwouldntdoitbecauseitwouldbelikeaneuronconnectedtoanotherbeing.KC:Absolutely.BD:Oryouwouldntwalkbyaplantstarvingforwaterwithoutwateringit.Youwouldntspreaddepleteduraniumoncropsbecauseyoucouldfeelthat.Inotherwords...BR:Youwouldntdothesethings,becauseyouredoingittoyourself.

BD:Right.ItactuallyisanotherexpressionoftheIAM.OK?KC:Totally.BD:Wereagardenerofthegarden.Wereactually...Thinkofeachspinninggalaxyasaspinningflowerintheuniverse.OK?KC:Yes.Butletsgetbacktothis,becausewehaveReptiliansinfluencingtheIlluminatiagenda.Andwevegotanagendathatsbeingrolledoutonabunchofeternalbeingsthatdontreallyrecognizetheireternalness.Andsohowsitgoingtoplayout?BD:Well,first,thethingthatIvefound...KC:Whyhasthisbeenallowedtogetsofar?BD:Well,itsallowedtogetsofarforacoupleofreasons.Themostimportantthingintheuniverseforsentientbeingsistohavefreechoice.Inotherwords,tochoosetoremember.

Alotofpeoplethinkthat,youknow,youregoingthroughlifetolearnthings,ortoproveapointortoreachsomething,youknow,likeapointsystem,likeagrade.Andthatifyoureachacertaingrade,youcantranscend--whichistotallygarbage.ItslikemylittledaughterwithDownsSyndrome,shedoesnthavetoearnpointstobemydaughter.OK?BR:Yeah.BD:YouareasonordaughteroftheMostHighGod.Andwhatshappeningisyourbirthrightsbeingstolenawayfromyou,justlikethestoryofJacobandEsau.Itsbeingstolenawayfrompeople.


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Andtheproblemis,itsbeingstolenawayprimarilytotellthemthingsthattheyarenot.Ortofillindogma.And,ofcourse,itsinteresting--theworddogmameansam-God,backwards.Theyrebeingtoldthattheyshoulddecidewhatsgoodorevilratherthandecidingfromthespiritbymakingthatconnection.Becausetheonlywayforpeopletoconnectandnothaveaneternalmatrixistohavethespiritinsidethem.KC:Absolutely.BD:NowtheproblemIseeisthis:Peoplehavetodiscern.Therestwogroupsintheuniverse.Thereis,ifyouwanttocallit,theDarkEmpire.Wewillcallthemthetransdimenstionalbeings.WemightcallthemtheHigherLordsofDarknessandtheirPrinces.Andtheresmanydifferentcivilizationsthatreinthis.Wedontevenneedtogetintonames,buttheresawholeseriesofthem.BR:Yep.BD:Youmightcallthemtheserpentines,theReptilians,theTallGrays,whateveryouwanttocallthem.OK?Theresawholearrayofthese.Andontheotherside,thereisaGrandCouncilofCivilizationsouttherethatarevery,verycaringandtheyareconnectedtothespiritoftheCreatorGod.Theyareadvancedbeings,bothhuman,humanoidandnonhuman,acrossthecosmosanduniverse.

BR:AndofcoursethiswaswhythemovieStarWarswassuchatremendousmodernmythbecauseitrepresentedthiswholearchetypethateveryonereallyunderstandseveniftheydontknowit.BD:Well,theyunderstandbecauseitssomethingthattheyreresonatingwiththeirspirit.Yousee...BR:Exactly.BD:ItsalmostlikesomeonegoingthroughaneuralizerliketheshowMIB--MeninBlack.Andsotheyveforgottensomethingbutsomethingcanjarthembacktorememberitanyway.Right?BR:Yeah.Right.KC:Absolutely.BD:OK.SoinasenseyoureinastateofwhatIcallspiritsleep.Yourspiritsasleepsothatitcanthenstarttoreawakenits

connectednesswitheveryoneelse.KC:OK.Butwhatsthenutsandboltstohowthisplaysout,though,atthemoment?BD:Well,Illjustgiveyoualittlestory.Thisisoneofthemostrecentones.Roughlyoneyearago...AndIgetvisionsanddreams.OK?Andoneofmyprimaryrolesisnttobeadoctororawhistlebloweroraradiohost.Thoseareallsecondary.Andreally,tobehonestwithyou,theyrejustavehicletotrytogettherealtruthout--whichisntjustfacts.Becausetheproblemis,wehaveaseaoffacts.KC:Mmhm.BD:Butitdoesntchangepeople.Forexample,whenyoulookattheanomaliesaround9/11,howmanypeoplehaveinsistedthattheresa

properinvestigation?Right?KC:Absolutely.BD:Right.Andtheyrenot.Justtofollowthefinancialsideandalltheotheranomalies...Andwestillhaveallthesefactions,evenintheso-called9/11movement.Well,itsthesamewaywithreligion.Icallitrealliesgoingon.Theyhavetheirdogmatheyclingtobecause...Itswhattheycalltheirhellinsurance,becausetheyrefearfulofknowingthesethingsouthere,ofhell,orseparation,orwhateveritis,attheend


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oftheirphysicallife.Sohencetheykindofstuffthemselveswithdogmasothattheycanfeelsafe.Right?KC:Mmhm.OK.Butyouvejusttoldusyouhavethreerolesthatareyoursecondaryroles.Whatsyourfirstrole?BD:Myfirstroleistospeakasaprophet.KC:OK.BD:OK?Now,ImnottalkingaboutMontyPython,fillthestadiumwithprophets.Andtheresmanydifferentprophets.Forexample,IhadontheshowlastweekJohnBoncore/SplittingtheSky.AndIreallybelievethattherearemanypeople,especiallynow,thatthereisapropheticroleforthem.OK?KC:Sure.BD:Andtheyrefromalldifferentnations,colors,peoples,whatever,ontheEarth.Itslikethebodyofmankind.ButtherearespecificprophetsthathavewhatIcall,ifyouwanttocallit,anexecutiverole,totrytobringthosetogether,andtobringthepicturetogethersothattherecanbeaplatformtohaveanoverallsynthesisthatcanbepresentedbacktomankindtosay:Nowsee?Sotheycanstarttokindofgetwiththeprogrambeforeallhellbreaksloose.KC:OK.BD:AndthatsoneofthereasonswhyIdomyshow.AndthatsoneofthereasonsIbelieveIwastoldtocallyou.Ikindofcomefromthe

perspective...Iwantpeopletogetridofreligionandget,ineverymoment,intospirituality.Inotherwords,dontgotochurchonSundayandthinkyouresafeallweek,orwhateverotherdayyoulike.Dontgointoyourprayerroomandthinkthatyoure...KC:OK.Butasaprophet...Imean,thisisallgoodbutthatsliketheA,B,Csandwere,like,waybeyondthatwithouraudience.BD:Imsureyouare.KC:Letsgivethemsomecredit.BD:Imjusttellingyouwhatsnotonmyshow,becausealotoftimestheywontgetthisontheshowbecauseIonlypresentcertainportionsofit.Nowheresthenextstep.KC:OK.BD:Thenextstepis,oneyearagoIwastakenbytheGrandCouncil,

totheEschaton.KC:OK.BD:TheEschatonisbeyondtime/space.OK?Nowthismayseemverybizarretopeople.Ivebeentherethreetimes.Thislasttimewasoneyearago.Anditsnotanhallucination.Itwasacourtroom,ifyouwanttocallit,beyondtimeandspace,with24witnessesthroughhumanhistory.OK?KC:OK.BD:AndwewerebroughtbeforetheCouncilbecausetheyremakingadecision,eitherthumbs-uporthumbs-down,forourcivilization.OK?KC:OK.BD:Andwereattheknifesedgeofabaddecision.KC:OK.AndIbelieveyou.

BR:Right.BD:Mankindasacorporatebeinghastomakedecisionstogetontherighttimeline.KC:Absolutely.BD:Andiftheydontmaketherightdecisions,weregoingtogetonthewrongoneandweregoingtobecomeadeadcinder.Inasensethisplanet,andifyouwanttothinkoftheEarthasalivingbeing,itslikeagiantwombofthesespirit-beingscalledhumanbeingsonEarth,ormankind,thatareabouttobebirthedtobecomeIcallhomoluminousorhomogalacticus,oryouknow,an


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advancedmankindthatcaninteractwithadvancedcivilizationsacrossthecosmos--thatdoesnthavetohaveamatrixofbillionsoflaws;thatdoesnthavetohaveachipinustotrackustomakesureweregood;anddoallthesethings.Becausewherewereat...WereatthisnexusorcrossroadswhereweeitheraregoingtohavethelawasJesusChristsaidhimself,whichwasoneofthegreatteachers,YeshuaHaMasaich,whichmeansTheFatherintheFlesh.OK?Andwearethefatherintheflesh.Soareyou!Aswewakepeopleup,itmanifestswhatsalwaysbeenthere.Itsthemanifestationthatcounts.WerenotgreaterthanGod.Werejust...KC:OK.Soyoureinfrontofthiscouncilandyourewitnessing...What?BD:Theconsciousnessofallofthesepeopledownthroughhumanhistory.KC:OK.BD:Tothecouncilandallthesedifferentbeingsinthecourtroom,andtheybasicallycameupwithajudgment.Andtheysaid:Nowweresendingyouback,andyouhave...Thetimeisveryshortbeforejudgmentisgoingtofall.Andmankindasacorporatebeingmustgetthismessage.Andiftheydontgetthemessagecorrectly,whichtranscendsreligion,politics,nationalbordersortheirversionofanewworldorderorworldgovernment...Becausetheyvegotaworldgovernmentthatsabsolutelynoxious.You

see,aworldgovernmentcanbeworldgovernmentwithnationalboundariesandnations.Itcanbewithpeoplewhokeeptheirrecipecardsandcontroloftheircivilization.Itcanbewithaworldthathassomedegreeoforderwithoutknockingallboundariesdownandcreatingregionaltradezones.Becausetheworldisnotbasedoneconomy.Itsbasedon,ifyouwanttocallit,identity.OK?Andwhattheyredoingis,theyrehomogenizingtheidentitysotheycancontrolthepopulationandturnpeopleintocyberneticrobots,iswhattheywanttodo.KC:Absolutely.BD:Andtheyrealreadymovingusstepbygradeintoamatrix.Now,thefuturethattheyretalkingaboutiswherepeople,citizens,canevenhavetheoptionofhavingabrain-interfacechipandbeloaded

intoarack.Andtheywontevenhavetoexistinthephysicalworld.Theirbodieswouldbeputintolifeextensiontechnology,loadedintoarackforcenturiesorthousandsofyears.Thatswherewereheaded.

Peoplesay:Ohno,thatwonthappen.Isay:Well,Imsorry,butthathellishworldisrightaroundthecorner.Butitsdependentonhumankind.Andwhetherwellevengettothat,ormostofthiscivilizationwilldie...ThesepeoplearefeverishlybuildingundergroundbasesattheratehereinAmerica,forexample,oftwobasesperyear,anywherefrom18to26billiondollars.KC:Yes.BD:Anywherefrom5.24to7.25cubicmilesinsize.Mostofthemare

indormantvolcanicdomesorbuiltwithnuclearexplosionsundergroundtocreatethesemassivedomesorwhatscalledamatrixwheretheycutthesegianttunnels.KC:Butthatsnotgoingtosavethem.BD:No,itwontsavethem.Thefactis,itsnotgoingtobeatechnicalanswerthatsgoingtosavethem.Andthatswheretheproblemis.Theseareadvancedintellectualbeingswithoutspirit.AndthatsthebasisofwhatwecalltheReptilianorserpentineempire.


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Itslikeagroupofsuper-scientistswiththesesuper-intellects,withmassiveknowledgeofenergyandtime/space,andjumpingacrossthegalaxy,andlifeextension,andeverything.Butwithnospirit,becausetheydowhatisrightintheirowneyes.

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