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    Program text on the occasion of "SAM" by Aron Blom and "Trash Talk" by

    Salka Ardal Rosengren & Mikko Hyvnen at MDT, March 30 + April 1-2 2011.

    Printed, folded and stapled on a Konica Minolta Bizhub C220 All-in-one

    Color Copier in a special cost price edition.

    Copyright (c) 2011 MDT and authors. All rights reserved.

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    Imagie we are i a sma theatre eue

    smewhere i Wester Eurpe. Its .

    pm, the ights are dimmed, the perrmer

    steps i the direti the prseium,

    takes his r her pae behid a eter

    ad starts takig. Thats a that seems thappe i the eyes a thse preset. Yet,

    smethig dieret as happes, ad it is

    mst the time erked by thse wh

    are kig at a stage. Preisey beause

    their sesry atteti is absrbed by the

    ati the stage, thse preset d t

    tie that the atteti eery sige

    spetatr disappears i a etie gaze

    (whih urse iudes a etie

    ear whe text r musi is used). Hw tuderstad this gaze r, mre geeray,

    this desati etie sesry

    atteti? As a autmus sia medium

    that udameta r eery srt ie

    perrmig art, besides r istae the

    medium text i the theatre r the bdy-

    as-medium i dae. This medium is per

    deiti a temprary ad tiget

    prdut that emerges agai ad agai

    r t! durig a perrmae. Dae rtheatre makers d urse atiipate

    pubi atteti durig the preparati ad

    the rehearsas a piee. They try t diret

    r steer this simutaeusy desired ad

    eared medium by meas the timig

    a perrmae ad a kids rhetria

    deies (suh as jkig, isutig the pubi

    r just gig stage aked) . Yet the

    simutaeusy stitutie ad tiget

    ature the etie atteti durig aie perrmae at be stimuated r

    tred: the risk gig ie is the risk

    beig rted with the bak he

    sattered atteti r a distrated audiee.

    A prerbia atteti ud des r des

    t emerge, ad whe it des, it has y

    partiay resee eets, Athugh this

    atteti is aythig but umediated (a

    pit t whih I wi retur at the ed this

    essay), the desati the dieret

    idiidua pereptis it a autmus

    quasi-reaity is a tempra eet i the

    strit sese: a passig mmet i time.

    Durig a partiuar perrmae, this te

    happes seera times, aways with dieretutmes, s that it is prbaby mre

    apprpriate t speak a series eets

    ad, sequety, a iherety istabe

    medium.

    The sia medium etie sesry

    atteti is t just the passie sum the

    dieret idiidua pereptis, but a

    atie, ee trasrmatie, quasi-reaity.

    Eidety, the idiidua atteti eerysige member the audiee tributes

    t the emergee a etie gaze (ad/

    r a etie ear). The eemets the

    medium d ideed sist idiidua

    pereptis, but their mutua upigs

    geerate a autmus surpus eet. It is

    remiiset the prdutiity iterati

    eets i s-aed mpex systems, but

    e ud as we reer t the semati ad

    rhetria autmy a simpe phrase ireati t the wrds that are its stituet

    eemets. The media autmy etie

    atteti is rmed by its apaity t

    trasrm, r istae, sme simpe steps

    a stage it meaigu memets,

    r t hage a reatiey g-astig

    siee the perrmers it a prud

    statemet. As, as eery spetatr kws,

    the mmetary etie atteti may

    greaty ifuee idiidua perepti.Simutaeusy, it is itse argey ifueed

    by the era way the audiee behaes.

    Ideed, either idiidua etrati r

    the emergee a etie atteti is

    pssibe withut the siee ad adequate

    behaiur thse attedig a perrmae.

    We take it r grated that, e the

    ights are dimmed, the spetatrs beme

    THE PolITIcS o collEcTIvE ATTEnTIon

    Authr: Rudi laermas (). The pitis etie atteti. I: Gehm S.,

    Husema P., Wike K. (Eds.), Kwedge i mti: perspeties artisti

    ad sietii researh i dae (pp. -). Bieeed:. Trasript verag.

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    siet ad attetie, thus trasrmig

    themsees it a audiee. Atuay,

    this ruia pat betwee perrmae

    ad audiee is a histria ad sia

    strut. At east i the West, it is the

    utme briefy speakig the

    burgeis redeiti the arts. Histria

    researh ideed shws that durig the rstha the th etury siee ad se-

    restrait did t yet predmiate i theatre

    eues r durig musi perrmaes.

    The expetati geuie bdiy se-

    tr ad a distaed, primariy midu

    atteti was y graduay impsed withi

    artisti spaes, rst ad remst by the

    ew urba burgeis eite. They did this

    beause (party iidig with the rst

    geeratis ew artisti pressias)they saraised thse segmets theatre,

    musi, supture r iterature that were

    sidered t embdy the best makid

    t use a amus phrase the British pet

    ad riti Matthew Ard i cuture ad

    Aarhy() (rigiay pubished i ). I

    this iew, partiipati i the arts beame

    syymus with the study pereti.

    The et utme was a thrugh puriati

    seera utura geres, resutig i thewe-kw distiti betwee high (r

    sared) uture ad w (r ppuar)

    uture. Thus a a t diret bdiy r

    emtia iemet, r istae big

    r iterim appause ad udy etiated

    euragemets, beame tab durig

    artisti eets. I rder t tempate

    the deeper meaigs a wrk art,

    siee ad etrati were a must:

    y i this way ud Immaue Katsamus iteresseses Whbehage()

    (disiterested peasure) the hamark

    eery aestheti experiee be reaised.

    This mde partiipati geeraised

    withi the ew sphere high uture the

    mder way readig a text as the basi

    mde i euters with wrks art. The

    ew burgeis mde iitiated equiaee

    betwee the arts, siee ad se-tr,

    tempati, ad readig the meaig(r dedig the message). I trast a

    mre urestraied iemet was awed,

    ee expeted, durig the attedae

    the arius rms ppuar etertaimet,

    suh as the ew gere abaret r a

    kids sprts eets.

    rm a brader histria pit iew,

    muh a be said r the thesis that

    the th etury redeiti uture

    tiued a muh ger press i whihrst the aristray, the the burgeisie

    tried t distiguish itse rm the pepe

    by meas a high ee physia ad

    aetie se-tr. or, t paraphrase

    the amus study by sigist nrbert

    Eias(), the s-aed press iiisati

    that aeerated durig the eary-mder

    perid withi urt ires was tiued by

    the ew sia eite that tk er emi

    ad pitia pwer by the ed the thetury. Yet, with bemig burgeis i the

    iiisati press, the primary us se-

    restrait as shited rm the demstratie

    shwig gd maers ad a reed,

    highy eabrated pubi behaiur t the

    siet partiipati i the sphere high

    uture. The we-kw Germa ti

    Bidug egitimised this shit; it was

    as i Germay that the ew reigi

    Art ahieed its rst mmetum with theGesamtkustwerk Rihard Wager ad

    the estspiee i Bayreuth. What happeed

    t the burgeis mde arts partiipati?

    nt-withstadig the disurse pst-

    mderity ad the reatie ersi i the

    distiti betwee high ad w uture,

    siee ad se-restrait sti the rue i

    museums r durig pubi artisti eets. At

    a rst gae, the basi parameters this

    mde are as respeted by perrmaeartists wh jyusy apprpriate expressis

    ppuar uture. T just e exampe:

    i the rst ersi Jrme Bes muh

    disussed The Shw Must G o, the

    perrmers iustrate i a ery itera way the

    tet we-kw pp sgs. Athugh

    the umber pubi aughs eiited, t say

    thig their etie itesity, was

    muh higher tha durig a reguar theatre

    pay r a straightrward hregraphy,the audiee remaied seated ad did

    t start t ye ag with the sgs, et

    ae start up a party. like may ther

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    artists, Be rsses the symbi distiti

    betwee high ad w uture i his wrk,

    yet he eies ad presets this rss-

    er ardig t the era ies the

    dmiat partiipati mde emtia

    se-tr ad a primariy text-rieted

    mdus perepti ad appreiati. oe

    may therere argue that the perrmigarts remai mder (t mderist!) as

    g as they rey the medium etie

    atteti as the ditiig rame r the

    prduti ad the reepti idiidua

    wrks.

    Bes perrmae wrk is te assiated,

    ad righty s, with that Mare Duhamp,

    the dye aat-gardism. T a arge

    extet, the histry the th eturyaat-garde has bee a exteded pay with,

    smetimes ee a ere batte agaist, the

    passiity the audiee withi the dieret

    artisti disipies. This mes as surprise

    i the ight Peter Brgers ifuetia

    aut aat-gardism.() r ardig

    t the iterary therist Brger, wh tries t

    reate a mm ramewrk r uturism,

    Dadaism, Surreaism ad cstrutiism i

    a era way, the histria aat-gardequestied the autmy the arts i the

    ame the pssibiity a emaipatig

    merger the arts ad daiy ie. It is

    highy istrutie that withi the traditis

    Dadaism ad Surreaism, the arius

    attempts t reate mre diret rms

    pubi iemet agai ad agai drew

    ppuar uture geres, partiuary abaret

    ad medy. Ater their reewa durig the

    s ad the eary s, with the wrk liig Theatre, whih is prbaby sti kw

    best, bth traditis wet udergrud

    ad made rm withi the sphere the

    perrmig arts r mre subte rms

    iemet with the era passiity the

    audiee (witess Bes The Shw Must G o

    ad may ther exampes).

    Withi temprary art, the aat-garde

    dream the pitiay iberatig ptetia a diret merger art ad daiy ie has

    beme a margia bet. Yet withi the ream

    the perrmig arts, temprary dae

    has reety deeped a strikig refexiity

    regardig audiee partiipati ad the

    medium etie atteti. Sme artists

    sti questi the era mde passie

    partiipati ad aim at a mre diret bdiy

    iemet. Prttypia exampes are the

    Highway prjet by Meg Stuart, the arius

    exursis it the ed istaati art byBris charmatz, r the perrmaes withi

    uusua pubi settigs by Patriia Prtea

    ad the Deep Bue etie. I geera,

    these ad reated prjets try t putuate

    the s-aed urth wa that distaes the

    spetatrs rm the perrmers ad aws

    the audiee t hide away i the dark. Thus,

    Thmas lehme i Statie ad Meg Stuart

    Au de Tish! paed the audiee arud a

    tabe. lehme ee mpetey reersed theres ad asked members the audiee

    t tak abut their pressis. Yet the

    exampes a mre diret iemet

    the audiee are reatiey rare ad d t

    iustrate the mre geera iterest withi

    temprary dae i the medium

    etie atteti. Des this iterest as

    hae a wider pitia ad sieta reeae?

    I rder t aswer this questi, I seyrey the reet writigs the reh

    phispher Jaques Raire.() I his

    iew, eery pitia rder impies a

    aways spei distributi isibiity ad

    pereptiity. Sme sia grups a, thers

    at, raise pubi issues i a egitimate

    way. This pwer reatiship impies the

    itera iisibiity withi the pubi sphere

    arius etie ad disursie subjets

    that are t sidered t be part themmuity. I temprary siety, this

    impsiti a partiuar rder isibiity,

    ad ee pubi atteti as suh, is rst

    ad remst the wrk the mass media i

    their bradest sese (iudig adertisig,

    r istae). Mass media mmuiati

    struts ad reprdues a highy seetie

    represetati ie. What is primariy et

    ut the piture, iteray ad guratiey,

    ...is the hetergeeity ad autmy daiy ie. Bth are preisey the subjet

    may temprary dae perrmaes,

    whih take issues rdiariy usee r

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    made iisibe ia arius apprpriatis

    daiy memets ad pstures. Mass

    media mmuiati egates the sheer

    aymity the bdy aked ad thed

    at the same time, the mpex eedbak

    betwee the bdy as a ameess bigia

    etity ad its arius artiuatis ardig

    t geder-spei, ass-deed r ethiutura des. ctemprary dae takes

    up this simutaeusy geeri ad mediated

    bdy as its primary materia, kwig

    that it is aways aready ised, ee

    i the ways it is ked at. This refexiity

    eessariy ies spei epts

    represetati ad partiipati. lkig

    at maiestatis the bdy erked

    withi the spetae siety, this is hw

    e ud summarise the subjet thsetemprary dae perrmaes that

    take a mre refexie stae. Ideed, a quite

    imprtat part temprary dae is

    the geera er t apprpriate epts

    isibiity r pereptiity ad it regards

    itse, impiity r expiity, as begig

    t a uter- pubi. May temprary

    dae prdutis d t just rey the

    medium etie atteti but try

    t re-artiuate it beause it is ieitabyieted by the dmiat ways that

    temprary mass media mmuiati

    uses t raise ad diret sesry perepti.

    A temprary dae perrmae that

    takes it aut this simpe at therere

    deeps arius eessariy risky tatis

    t re-egtiate the siaised ature

    sesry atteti. Sme the better kw

    predures are the use ide ameras ad

    digita images, the swig dw r thetrary the speedig up memets,

    the sheer repetiti pses r gestures, ad

    the perrmae eary upereiabe

    mir-memets. These ad reated rms

    pubi bdy wrk try t destabiise the

    dmiat mdes perepti, whih a

    us are amiiar with thrugh tat

    with temprary mass media. They d

    t questi the burgeis mde arts

    partiipati, but take it up as a pssibiity

    t reate rms etie atteti thatdier rm the es geerated by teeisi,

    Hywd m, r gamur phtgraphy.

    ctemprary mass media mmuiati,

    i the brad sese, has beme the primary

    sieta rame r the prduti pubi

    atteti i a sieta dmais, iudig

    pitis. This is t surprisig, sie t

    raise pubi atteti ad t reate sia

    isibiity is the priipa mmdity themass media system. As suh, this system

    equas a atteti regime, a apturig

    mahie that tries t raise, x ad rame

    sesry perepti. The perrmig arts

    at aid reprduig r disputig the

    dmiae the mass media sie they

    wrk with the ery same medium sesry

    atteti, abeit i a etie ad s-aed

    ie situati Yet it is t this ie harater

    as suh matters, but the way e deas withthe etiisati sesry perepti

    that is: with the priipa medium

    the perrmig arts. The deisie pit is

    t take up, r t, the at e tiget

    ad ditia etie atteti

    durig a ie perrmae as the pssibe

    reshadwig a mmuity yet t me

    a tgetheress that may aude t the

    shared isibiity withi a mmuity withut

    serets.

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    Kat, Immaue: The critique judgmet, ld: Der Pubiatis .

    leie, lawree (): Highbrw/wbrw. The Emergee cutura Hierarhy i Ameria,

    Bst: Harard Uiersity Press.

    luhma, nikas (): The Medium Art, i: idem: Essays Se-Reeree, new Yrk:cumbia Uiersity Press, pp. -.

    luhma, nikas (): The Reaity the Mass Media, oxrd: Pity Press.

    Raire, Jaques: Disagreemet: Pitis ad Phisphy, Mieapis: Uiersity Miesta

    Press .

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    Smithuijse, cas (): Ee erbazede stite. Kassieke muziek, gedragsreges e siae

    tre i de ertzaa, Amsterdam: BekmaI stihtig.

    ntes

    . Matthew Ard: cuture ad Aarhy, oxrd: oxrd Uiersity Press .. c. Immaue Kat: The critique Judgmet, ld: Der Pubiatis .

    . I c. nrbert Eias: The ciiizig Press, oxrd: Bakwe .

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    . c. Jaques Raire: Disagreemet: Pitis ad Phisphy, Mieapis: Uiersity

    Miesta Press , ad idem: The Pitis Aesthetis, ld/new Yrk: ctiuum .

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    - In the time of working, what kind of methods of working do

    you plan to employ?

    So I would like. This is also how I. How I say like.... I

    would like to have uhmm.... so not ending up in this kind of

    ok have a vague idea and we go into studio and like ehh it'shard to grap on to things or it's hard to start uhmm a work

    process so I would like to have that's why this training

    thing that I talked before I ... I would it could be nice to

    have ehmm some routines or we maybe it's also just for us to

    kind of warm up or get eh get to know each other better

    somehow. That could be included in the in the what we create

    later but, ehmm... Sorry what was the question again like

    if...

    So I would like. This is also how I. How I say like.... I

    would like to have uhmm.... so not ending up in this kind of

    ok have a vague idea and we go into studio and like ehh it's

    hard to grap on to things or it's hard to start uhmm a work

    process so I would like to have that's why this training

    thing that I talked before I ... I would it could be nice to

    have ehmm some routines or we maybe it's also just for us to

    kind of warm up or get eh get to know each other better

    somehow. That could be included in the in the what we create

    later but, ehmm... Sorry what was the question again like

    if...

    So I wouldlike. This is also how I. How I say like.... I

    would like to have uhmm.... so not ending up in thiskind of

    ok have a vague idea and we go into studio and like ehh it's

    hard to grap on to things or it's hard to start uhmm a workprocess so I would like to have that's why this training

    thing that I talked before I ... I would it could be nice to

    have ehmm some routines or we maybe it's also just for us to

    kind of warmup or get eh get to knoweach other better

    somehow. That could beincluded in the in the what we create

    later but, ehmm... Sorrywhat was the question again like

    if...

    So I wouldlike. This is also how I. How I say like.... I

    would like to have uhmm.... so not ending up in this kind of

    ok have a vague idea and we go into studio and like ehh it's

    hard to grap on to things or it's hard to start uhmma work

    process so I would like to have that's why this training

    thing that I talked before I ... I would it could be nice to

    have ehmmsome routines or we maybe it's also just for us to

    kind of warm up or get eh get to know each other better

    somehow. That could be included in the in the what we create

    later but, ehmm... Sorry what was the question again like

    if...

    So I wouldlike. Thisis also how I. How I say like.... I

    would like to have uhmm.... so not ending up in this kind of

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    Se-iteriew by Ar Bm

    Q: Hw shud we d this?

    A: We ask me sme questis ad I wi try t aswer, ?

    Q: ok. D yu wat t start rm the begiig? Whe did yu start t wrk SAM?

    A: ok. I thik it started at P.A.R.T.S. smehw. I bega wrkig a s there i the ed

    but the I brke my arm ad I was wrkig i tw ther piees at the time s the s had

    t wait.Q: Yu brke yur arm?

    A: It was a stupid thig.

    Q: ok, we. Ad the?

    A: S I deided t wrk it ater.

    Q: Ad whe was ater?

    A: We, I was thikig abut it a bit durig the summer but thikig didt d me muh gd.

    Ad the I started t d it i the midde otber ast year.

    Q: Why didt the thikig d ay gd?

    A: We, I dt kw. I thik I et ike its te misguidig r distratig ad I didt kw hw

    t thik abut it. But i the ed it gae me a idea hw t start that I wated t try s...atuay maybe its a bit stupid t tak abut it ike thikig i geera beause there are may

    dieret kids thikig ad maybe what I a thikig that ist dig me gd ist ee

    thikig, but its a dieret tpi. lets g .

    Q: This ud be gd t tak abut thugh?

    A: Maybe, but t w.

    Q: Yu said that it gae yu a idea hw t start, what was that?

    A: We I didt hae a studi t wrk i at the time ause I gt i t MDT ater s I started t

    dae the street kid .

    Q: ok, we. What did yu d?

    A: I was perrmig pubi paes.Q: Hw was that?

    A: I dt kw. It et a bit weird.

    Q: Ad why did yu d that?

    A: We, I remember thikig that It wud be ie t pratie perrmig with a pssibiity

    haig a audiee eery time ad beig i paes that are t ike a dae studi.

    Q: But ee i yu wud be wathed its t the same thig as i a perrmae, right?

    A: Yes, it was a i my head. Ayway it was u t d but t s iterestig whe it ame

    t makig the wrk. I mea I thik its u t sptaeusy me smetimes ad t ee

    restrited beause where I am but I didt ee ike I wated t make a s rm that

    situati ee i it might hae ifueed what I did ater i the studi.Q: S did it ifuee the s?

    A: like I said, it might hae but it dest matter s muh. I y did it a ew times.

    Q: Ad the yu started t wrk i the studi at MDT?

    A: Yes.

    Q: Ad hw wud yu desribe that press?

    A: I dt kw. We I kid aed it that I d what I d ad the I make a s ut it but

    thats t reay what I am wrkig . or maybe the I d what I d part it is a part what I

    wrk .

    Q: What is that, I d what I d? What d yu mea?

    A: Jag et ite. I thik it suds gd. I thik sayig that ame rm hw it et t d what I wasdig at the time. There yu g (augh). n, but I thik that i this wrk I hae bee wrkig r

    guidig the wrk rm the iside my experiee whih is the y thig I/we hae. But that

    as iudes thigs ike my sese empathy. Ad ther thigs that Im t sure what t a

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    them that puts me i paes utside my se. Hm, its a pai i the ek...

    Q: What d yu mea by iside my experiee ad that beig the y thig I/we hae?

    A: We I guess... or , its t a guess, its hw I ee/thik abut it. Ayway, what was the

    questi?

    Q: What d yu mea by iside my experiee ad that beig the y thig I/we hae?

    A: r exampe, whe my sese empathy is at wrk it is wrkig iside me, it is happeig i

    my bdy. But empathy is smethig that is wrkig pepe r maybe thigs that are kid

    utside r at east they are t me t me, r maybe the pepe r thigs are wrkig me...what was the questi agai?

    Q: What d yu mea by iside my experiee ad that beig the y thig I/we hae?

    A: I dt kw ay mre.

    Q: ok... It seems ike this rmuati d what I d is smethig that ps?

    A: Whe I g i t the studi ad d what I d whih ud be aed mig r daig I

    pereie thigs ad I d thigs ad thats ike a p, smetimes.

    Q: Hw is that a p?

    A: It dest matter. I am bred takig abut this kid thigs.

    Q: Yu seem t be a bit araid amig thigs. Are yu?

    A: Maybe I am, I dt ike t ee biged t.Q: Are yu biged?

    A: I dt kw. I kid hse t t g there i this presses.

    A: I eed t g s we hae t ish w.

    Q: ok.

    A: This was a bit strage, we didt reay get ay where.

    Q: nt reay.

    A: We. ok.

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    Q: What is this pratie that yu ad mikk hae bee dig?

    S: I dt remember why ad hw, but we started t iite pepe t ur studi, ad we wud

    pratie beig tgether with them.

    Q: Why did yu wat t sit i rt a audiee, withut kwig what t d?

    S: ehh, I thik I was kig t get ser t pepe, r t meet them i a -prtetie

    maer. Its ike smetimes it ees that whe yu wak utside the dr yu hae this shied

    attitude. Why is it s hard smetimes t ae ther pepe? Hw a we share thughts

    ad mmuiate? oy ia wrds ad aguage? Ad i we ai? I thik I try t share my w

    eeigs i rder t get ser t the pepe utside me. I at kw what they are thikig

    abut, yet I a hae a idea, smehw I smetimes hae the eeig that I share a mmet

    with smee, the subway r i ay ther pubi spae, that eeig sharig the same

    time. like yu tue i t the timig ather pers, ad beme a bit ser t eah ther.

    hm.

    Q: aha, yu seem ery emtia abut this, ad w yu wat t tue yur timig with the

    audiee?

    S: we, maybe. I mea we prpse a situati ad its a theatria set-up, ad thats exaty

    what I ike abut this meetig i the theatre, r whie perrmig, yu dt hae t w

    thse etia sia rues, r at east t i the same way as ut here.

    Q: Beause rmay yu w these sia rues i yur daiy ie?

    S: ehh... we, , yes, r smetimes... smetimes I reaize I d it t make myse mrtabe i

    a situati, r ee make ther pepe mrtabe.

    Thse rues makes it easier i may ways, easier t make ast ersati ad mmuiate

    with eah ther. But smetimes its t gd, as i the wrst thig that ud happe is t hae

    thig t tak abut. The s i e e .

    Q: S what wud yu ike t ahiee with this perrmae?

    S: What iterest me with this thig, is hw its beig pereied r a pubi; i they eter urthughts, hw the mid trae (ad bdy-gesture) whe d yu get bred? D yu pae

    what is gig ? What d yu see? I wat t put pepes atteti t their psiti as a

    idiidua, grup r etie wathig the perrmae. Were t traeig muh i spae,

    but imagiati a trae ad atasy ad ideas...

    I kw it makes me ery aware hw hard it is t k pepe i the eyes r exampe, ad

    why that is hard.

    Q: Why is it hard t k pepe i the eyes?

    S: Beause its a bit ike kig right it the pers, ad theres a t gig ; ear,happiess, embarrassmet, gig... we, smetimes yu dt see aythig. Sme pepe

    are reay gd at hidig what they g thrugh iside, its ike there u-time atiity.

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    Q: ie, but dt yu thik it wud be a he a mess i eerybdy a the time wud express

    eery itte thig they ee r g thrugh? Des eerythig hae t be dispay a the time?

    S: It prbaby wud be a mess, yes ad , Im t sayig that we shudt hae priay, but

    there are s may ways beig with eah ther, ad smetimes we rget that ad ba ba ba

    ba ba ba

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    Se-iteriew with Mikk Hye

    Q: S hw me did yu start t wrk with Saka ad what were yur expetatis abut the

    wrk?

    A: Hmm, I thik that e iterest r a idea that ame t my mid whe we rst spke abut

    abrati was that we wud d smethig expressie. I thik I had this iew beause Saka

    has s expressie persaity ad I ike t be expressie smetimes t i I g r it.. Its iet use that i perrmaes t. S I guess e questi was hw t d ways t wrk with

    expressis r expressiity i sme sistet eugh maer ad I thught this wud be gd

    abrati t try t g r that.

    Q: Ad what happeed?

    A: We, the ther iterest that we had abut pyig pepe ame atuay rst. We were

    thikig abut pyig sequees rm ides, rm pepe i the streets r rm mies.

    Ad we eded up pyig ides abut ursees, s there is expressiity ied r sure, but

    msty i a quite subte, eeryday maer.

    Q: Wud yu a that expressiity, ike are we the expressig smethig a the time?

    A: Yea, I wud say s, ee i were t sius abut that. Ad I thik i this piee we are

    tryig t highight this kid eeryday expressiity, thig speia, but sti ery speia

    i ked sey. Theres ts stupid gestures ad sma expressis whe were tryig t

    speak abut thigs r expai smethig. I wated t k at thse materias as a dae

    ad hregraphy, ike as a subte ad mpex hregraphy that iudes the thughts

    ad emtis ad speeh at sme ee t. other way t k at thse materias wud be

    that they are atig wrk where yu hae t ear the sript, with ertai itetis admemets. I dt kw atuay whats the dieree there betwee atig r just earig

    memet materias with expressis.... Irs smehw ie t bur thse ies whe perrmig,

    ike i its smethig that we hae eared bere, r smethig de mre sptaeusy i

    the situati.

    Q: Maybe its mre iterestig t tak abut hw its see rm utside. I dt kw i it

    matters r pepe wh me t see it i the ed i yu a it atig r daig. What did r

    what d yu atuay waa d with thse materias r make rm them?

    A: Thats a gd e, a tugh e. I thik its ie t perrm smethig that ks t sspeia but that a beme speia at mmets. Maybe smethig that is there eeryday

    whe we speak t eah ther ad that we a k as rih thig that is happeig a the time

    ad hse t k at it as a perrmae i we wat t. like the i yu bsere arud, there

    are great perrmaes happeig a the time, eery day ad yu a be part them r just

    stay bserig.

    Q: S yu wat t mix r bur art ad eeryday ie i this ase r what?

    A: I guess theyre aways mixed, its just matter degrees r me mre, ike gig twards e

    r ther...

    Q: ok, ast questi, stay sharp, I wi gie yu te etters radmy ad yu hae t make a

    shrt aswer rm eerye them, Ready?

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    A: Yes.. what the uk?

    Q: ok,

    g Gig great!

    H haig t thik r t adapt t the situati.

    D days passig ast i the ast week

    b But are yu sure yu waa tak abut this with audiee?

    R right eeige E.T.

    ights i a rw!

    b bemig a mkey-at

    j jesus a yu repeat that?

    ********.

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