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MEDICAID PLANNING: HOW TO MANAGE THE $6-7,000/MONTH COST OF STAYING IN A NURSING HOME P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP ® Cunningham Dalman, P.C. 321 Settlers Road Holland, MI 49423 (616) 392-1821 [email protected]

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Page 1: Presentation on Managing the Cost of Nursing Home Care

MEDICAID PLANNING: HOW TO MANAGE THE $6-7,000/MONTH COST OF STAYING IN A NURSING HOME

P. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®

Cunningham Dalman, P.C.321 Settlers RoadHolland, MI 49423(616) [email protected]

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Background• Attorney and Partner at Cunningham

Dalman, P.C.• Have a Masters in Tax (MST), CFP®

and specialize in estates/elder law and business planning.

Serving the Holland area since 1900

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Background• Cunningham Dalman, P.C. has been serving

the greater Holland area since 1900.• We have 15 attorneys specializing in all

areas of the law.

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Overview• Discuss the Medicaid rules and the

program.• Give you some ideas to plan for managing

the cost of staying in a nursing home.

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Did you know?• 40% of people 65 years and older will

stay in a nursing home.• Average cost to stay in a local nursing

home is $6-7,000/month ($72-$84,000/year).

 

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What is Medicaid?• It is a state and federal program that

pays for medical treatment (including long term care).

• Oftentimes confused with Medicare.

 

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When does Medicaid apply?• Historically, it only paid for nursing

home care. • In certain counties (that have the MI

Choice Waiver program), it will pay for care in someone’s home or an assisted living facility.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• Applies to people who are 65 years or older, blind, or disabled.

• Must satisfy the medical requirements (level of care assessment).

• Need to meet the income and asset tests.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• Your monthly income cannot exceed the monthly cost of your stay in a nursing home ($6-7,000 in this area).

• For the Waiver program, your income (not your spouse) must be less than $2,022/month.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• The asset test requires that a single person cannot have more than $2,000 in countable assets.

• You can keep your home (if it’s not in a trust) as well as a vehicle.

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Who does Medicaid apply to?

• Asset test allows a married couple to keep their home (again, if it’s not in a trust), a vehicle, and one-half of their other assets (up to a maximum of $109,560).

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Planning Example #1• Clients are a husband and wife who

are in their 70’s.• They have a house and $250,000 in

investments.

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Planning Example #1• They previously planned to avoid

probate by having an estate plan (which included a living trust, pourover will, and powers of attorney) and titling their assets in their trust.

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Planning Example #1• They are now worried about the cost

of long term care.• They are also concerned about one of

them passing and what “safety net” will be available for the survivor.

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Planning Example #1• To plan for these risks, they convert

their joint living trust into a single living trust.

• If one spouse passes away, the single living trust becomes a “survivor’s trust.”

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Planning Example #1• If the surviving spouse needs nursing

home care in the future, she will likely qualify immediately for Medicaid.

• The “survivor’s trust” creates a “safety net” to pay for expenses not covered by Medicaid (so the children do not have to).

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Planning Example #1• If one spouse was already on

Medicaid, that spouse will remain in the program.

• It also creates a “safety net” to pay for expenses not covered by Medicaid (so the children do not have to).

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• Client is single. • She has an estate plan (living trust,

pourover will, and powers of attorney).• She is healthy and does not anticipate

needing long term care in five years.

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Planning Example #2

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• She has a house, vehicle, and $250,000 in investments.

• He receives monthly income of $1,100 in Social Security and $600 from a pension.

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Planning Example #2

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• She has monthly expenses of $2,200 so there is a shortfall in her income of $500 per month.

• Since her husband passed, she has a son who has started to help her in various ways.

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Planning Example #2

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• She is concerned about going to a nursing home and not having any resources to take care of her house.

• She is also worried about Medicaid not covering all of her needs (other medical care, clothes, etc.).

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Planning Example #2

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• She creates an irrevocable trust in which she receives the income (interest and dividends).

• Her son is the trustee and her children are the beneficiaries of the trust principal.

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Planning Example #2

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• She makes a gift of $220,000 to the trust.

• She will receive approximately $916/month in income from the trust.

• She will not likely need any other resources.

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Planning Example #2

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• If she does need other resources, her son can take a distribution from the trust (because he is the trustee and beneficiary).

• He can then gift it back to her.

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Planning Example #2

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• There is a five year “look back” period for Medicaid.

• She will need to remain healthy five years from the time of the gift for this planning technique to be effective.

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Planning Example #2

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Questions……

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Thank YouP. Haans Mulder, JD, MST, CFP®Cunningham Dalman, P.C.321 Settlers RoadHolland, MI 49423(616) [email protected]

Serving the Holland area since 1900