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Popular ArgumentsPopular ArgumentsFor and Against For and Against
LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Introduction
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity: Overview
• Moral & Ethical Arguments• Practical Arguments• Faulty Arguments
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity: Categories
a) The appeal to nature b) Undesirable psychological consequences c) Undesirable social consequences d) Questionable motivations and skewed
priorities e) Common argumentative fallacies
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist is a vital imperfection
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature
Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death
• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…
gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist is a vital imperfection
• …and what if something exists beyond this life?
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences
The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences
The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:
• boredom and tedium
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences
The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:
• boredom and tedium• ennui
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences
The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:
• boredom and tedium• ennui • madness from repetition and predictability
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences
The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:
• boredom and tedium• ennui • madness from repetition and predictability• losing a sense of psychological continuity with oneself
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation
Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences
Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution
Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation
Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations
• an issue of sustainability
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities
Problematic motivations
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities
Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities
Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities
Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior• individual actions are against the collective best
interest
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities
Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior• individual actions are against the collective best
interest• more pressing concerns for society to deal with
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments
Argumentative errors and biases
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments
Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments
Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism• ad hominem
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments
Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism• ad hominem • psychological eccentricity and quirkiness
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity: Overview
• Primacy of moral argumentation• Practical arguments are catching up• On the defensive
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity: Categories
a) The value of life and the undesirability of deathb) The ethical and legal right to life extensionc) Desirable social consequencesd) Managing the inevitable and working towards the
feasible
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-
valuation of life
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-
valuation of life• maximum lifespan?
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-
valuation of life• maximum lifespan?• death as existential violation
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of
death
Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-
valuation of life• maximum lifespan?• death as existential violation• stopping the global death counter
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension
Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties• improving access
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Desirable social consequences
Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Desirable social consequences
Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…
• better personal accountability
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Desirable social consequences
Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…
• better personal accountability• stake in the future
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Desirable social consequences
Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…
• better personal accountability• stake in the future• makes utilitarians happy
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Desirable social consequences
Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…
• better personal accountability• stake in the future• makes utilitarians happy• the Longevity Dividend
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing….
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability • the problem of prohibition
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working
towards the feasible
There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability • the problem of prohibition• of feasibility and obligations
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Conclusion
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Conclusion
• a complex and difficult topic
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Conclusion
• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Conclusion
• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters• projecting fears and hopes
Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity
Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend
IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky
Conclusion
• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters• projecting fears and hopes• trusting ourselves and our institutions