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Popular Arguments For and Against Longevity Securing the Longevity Dividend IEET George Dvorsky

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Popular ArgumentsPopular ArgumentsFor and Against For and Against

LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Introduction

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity: Overview

• Moral & Ethical Arguments• Practical Arguments• Faulty Arguments

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity: Categories

a) The appeal to nature b) Undesirable psychological consequences c) Undesirable social consequences d) Questionable motivations and skewed

priorities e) Common argumentative fallacies

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist is a vital imperfection

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:The Appeal to Nature

Defending the natural order and the ‘gift’ that is death

• life extension violates nature and upsets the balance• critics contend that death has value; death…

gives life meaning provides us with a need for morality allows for sacrifice prevents us from being overly risk averse is what makes beauty exist is a vital imperfection

• …and what if something exists beyond this life?

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences

The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences

The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

• boredom and tedium

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences

The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

• boredom and tedium• ennui

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences

The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

• boredom and tedium• ennui • madness from repetition and predictability

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Psychological Consequences

The inadequacy of the human psyche to deal with radically extended lives:

• boredom and tedium• ennui • madness from repetition and predictability• losing a sense of psychological continuity with oneself

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation

Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Undesirable Social Consequences

Social and distributive injustices• cost prohibitive • unequal access• unfair distribution

Undesirable demographic skews• parallel populations• problem of incumbency• scientific and cultural stagnation

Overpopulation, the environment and Malthusian considerations

• an issue of sustainability

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities

Problematic motivations

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities

Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities

Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities

Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior• individual actions are against the collective best

interest

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Questionable motivations and skewed priorities

Problematic motivations• “…no known social good…”• anti-social behavior• individual actions are against the collective best

interest• more pressing concerns for society to deal with

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments

Argumentative errors and biases

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments

Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments

Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism• ad hominem

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

Against Longevity:Faulty Arguments

Argumentative errors and biases• pseudoskepticism• ad hominem • psychological eccentricity and quirkiness

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity: Overview

• Primacy of moral argumentation• Practical arguments are catching up• On the defensive

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For Longevity: Categories

a) The value of life and the undesirability of deathb) The ethical and legal right to life extensionc) Desirable social consequencesd) Managing the inevitable and working towards the

feasible

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For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-

valuation of life

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-

valuation of life• maximum lifespan?

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-

valuation of life• maximum lifespan?• death as existential violation

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The value of life and the undesirability of

death

Life is good, death is bad• demonstrating the value of living• ongoing personhood and the questionable de-

valuation of life• maximum lifespan?• death as existential violation• stopping the global death counter

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues

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For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:The ethical and legal right to life extension

Ethical and legal issues• pro-life ethics is sound• a civil rights issue• respecting civil liberties• improving access

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Desirable social consequences

Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

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For Longevity:Desirable social consequences

Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

• better personal accountability

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Desirable social consequences

Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

• better personal accountability• stake in the future

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Desirable social consequences

Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

• better personal accountability• stake in the future• makes utilitarians happy

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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IEETIEET George DvorskyGeorge Dvorsky

For Longevity:Desirable social consequences

Aside from eliminating the catastrophe that is death…

• better personal accountability• stake in the future• makes utilitarians happy• the Longevity Dividend

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing….

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

Securing the Longevity Securing the Longevity DividendDividend

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability • the problem of prohibition

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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For Longevity:Managing the inevitable and working

towards the feasible

There’s no point in arguing…. • life extension is in effect• the continuation of medical sciences• the continuation of the human mission• the importance of accountability • the problem of prohibition• of feasibility and obligations

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Conclusion

Popular Arguments For and Against Popular Arguments For and Against LongevityLongevity

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Conclusion

• a complex and difficult topic

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Conclusion

• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters

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Conclusion

• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters• projecting fears and hopes

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Conclusion

• a complex and difficult topic• heading into uncharted waters• projecting fears and hopes• trusting ourselves and our institutions