Please do not consider this move to promote trans gender ... · of crazies that you’re opening the door for. It would be nice if you’d first consider the protection of the majority

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From: [email protected]

Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 7:11 AM

To: BMV Legal

Subject: Trans gender licenses

**** This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. ****

Please do not consider this move to promote trans gender licenses. We are born either male or female. NO amount of drugs , surgery or mental illness can change our birth sex. Pandering to a small hand full of of mentally ill people for political reasons is wrong. Stop and consider why this move is even being considered, it is wrong.... MKMoore

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From: Stacy Wallace <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender license


Indiana does not need a transgender license. We are either male or female as God has created us. There are no

other genders. We can not bend to the immorality of others. Please reconsider the Gender X thing. Thank you.

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From: Hank Caskey <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: "Gender X" Drivers Licenses


To whom it may concern,

Please be advised that I believe it is not in the best interest of Indiana to change driver's licenses to reflect non-

birth genetic sex.

I support people's rights to identify as they choose but do not believe this should be reflected in the driver's

license as it is the highest form if identification is not in keeping with a neutral posture of government to

political correctness.

Thank you for your consideration of this input.

Hank Caskey

Cicero, IN

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To: BMV Legal

Cc: [email protected]

Subject: driver licenses


In regard to Indiana transgender driver licenses: There are only two biological sexes fixed at conception, regardless of how individuals choose to characterize

themselves. Requiring a person to identify their true biology from birth does not prevent someone from living out a male or

female identity.

Driver's licenses are not supposed to be political statements about lifestyle choices.

Emergency medical and law enforcement personnel need to know a person's actual biological sex to perform

their duty in the event of an accident.

Allowing false data on Indiana's driver's licenses compromises the integrity of the license.

The form to change ones gender has no guidelines for what that means or involves. It is merely a doctor's

signature.

The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of

identification into a tool to advance a political agenda.

Sally and Lindon Kegley

Indiana resident and taxpayer

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From: Boyd Nightenhelser <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender designation on driver license


Please consider:

• There are only two biological sexes fixed at conception, regardless of how individuals choose to

characterize themselves.

• Requiring a person to identify their true biology from birth does not prevent someone from living

out a male or female identity.

• Driver's licenses are not supposed to be political statements about lifestyle choices.

• Emergency medical and law enforcement personnel need to know a person's actual biological sex

to perform their duty in the event of an accident.

• Allowing false data on Indiana's driver's licenses compromises the integrity of the license.

• The form to change one’s gender has no guidelines for what that means or involves. It is merely a

doctor's signature.

Thank you.

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From: Tom Sullivan <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Please do not allow "transgender" or "non-binary" option on driver's licenses

**** This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or

unexpected email. **** ________________________________

To Whom it may concern:

There are three main problems with the proposal to allow driver's licenses or other identification to indicate other than

biological sex.

These are in addition to the simple fact that the photo will give the appearance of the person, indicating displayed self-

identified gender.

First, many medical errors, some resulting in death or serious injury, have occurred due to clinical personnel not

knowing true biological sex.

EMT and ER clinicians will benefit from having correct information on the license.

Second, the proposal lacks adequate controls against fraud; it requires only a signature from a (presumed) MD.

Third, common sense and the Bible's teaching that God created us male and female (without other options) shows this

proposal to be absurd on the face of it.

Thank you.

Tom Sullivan

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From: Colleen Monson <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Do Not Change Protocol


Identification is NOT a matter of how someone feels. What’s next, “I feel like I’m a horse?

That’s my right to FEEL however I want to feel, but not to demand that the world change proven

protective measures to accommodate a small percentage of the public, at cost to the majority.

I demand that the protection that true identification provides, be retained!

If you’re not going to protect us, using logic and FACTS, then you better be prepared for the onslaught

of crazies that you’re opening the door for.

It would be nice if you’d first consider the protection of the majority of the Indiana residents first.

Seems to me that protecting and honoring the wants and needs of the majority is basic.

But go ahead and buckle to the few, but be prepared for the fallout that this will create.

Sincerely a voting taxpayer,

Colleen Monson

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From: Mike Campbell <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: trans drivers license...........really?????????


when will this ignorant stuff end.......people are born either male or female GOD decides which one.......how they choose to see themselves when they grow older is up to them........and society as a whole should not be influenced by such a small minority of sick people.....who push their views and way of life on society....

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From: Joanne <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Cc: Joanne

Subject: No to gender fluid drivers licenses


Greetings BMV,

I agree with Micah Clark: “people are free to live, and dress as they choose, but changing our state’s highest

form of identification for a political cause or a psychological desire is unwise and the slippery slope of political

correctness.” (Where does it end?)

“Sex is not something someone can truly change through synthetic chemicals or disfiguring

surgeries. Yet, the proposed rule from the BMV allows a doctor to simply sign a form attesting

that a person has changed their sex from male to female, female to male or either to “X non-

binary” as if sex is something fluid or unknown.”

Thank you,

Joanne Randall

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From: Rivers3 <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a

tool to advance a political agenda.

Importance: High


My tax dollars should not be wasted on Gender X" driver's licenses.










doctor's signature.

William Morgan

Valparaiso, IN 46385

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From: lisa Gaddis <[email protected]>

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:56 PM

To: BMV Legal


Why must even consider this?! It's totally against my moral & Christian beliefs! I know Indiana is a backwards

state, but why do we have to bend to this group. Really aren't there more pressing things that could occupy our

time?

Lisa M Gaddis

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From: Kris Ziegelhofer <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Comments on transgender licenses


I am a resident of Schererville, IN and am completely opposed to IN Drivers Licenses having any gender

identification other than male and female. I am appalled that in a conservative majority state we would even be

entertaining this. Science and common sense tells us there are only 2 genders, biologically and physically.

Feeling one is the opposite gender is no more true than my feeling that I am the Queen of England and

demanding I be addressed as such.

Hoosiers are common sense people. Please do not cave to the politically correct forces that want us to override

reality and science for an alternate reality based solely on feelings.

Thank you,

Kris Ziegelhofer

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From: Tim Sauder <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: No X choice



Related to the alternative choice on gender: be real and follow science and genetics. There are 2 genders: male and

female. To create another is to deny truth and pander to a delusional super minority.

Tim Sauder

Ft Wayne, IN

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From: Tom Hughes <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender drivers license


There are only two sexes. Only two. Please do not allow driver's licenses to be used to make political

statements. There are only two sexes, determined at birth. Let's keep it that way.

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X?????


NO! This is just more costly BS.

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From: Hannah Brown <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender


My name is Hannah Cline and I am a resident of Indiana. I am against allowing the Gender X on drivers

license. It has no scientific basis.

No good will come of this. Don’t make the police officers job any harder In Finding criminals. Thank you.

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From: skyking49 <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Stop the craziness



Stop caving in to the 1/2 of 1% of perverts over the 99 1/2 % normal Rational human beings

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From: Kirk Booher <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender confusion?


IN BMV,

One shouldn't be able to choose their sex any more than they can choose their

height, weight or smile (or lack thereof)

M or F is all we need. X is silly, irresponsible and unneeded

Kirk Booher

Fishers, IN The linked image cannot be d isplayed. The file may have been mov ed, renamed, or deleted.

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From: Robert Lorimer <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Drivers licences


It would be wrong to add gender x on drivers licences, and expensive. Why should a few misguided persons be

allowed to cost the State of Indiana so much confusion?

Rev. Robert Lorimer

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From: Vicki Breivogel <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: NO Gender X driver's licenses


Why are we even considering this?

Elected officials and our government should not be caving to the pressure of a few individuals who want to

change our legal documents to make the agenda about sexual preference or identity.

Yes, all people have their right to be protected by our laws.

Driver's licenses having a neutral gender will only complicate the matter for law enforcement and the person

"required by law" to inspect a driver's license to sell products or any service that must use I.D. as proof of

identity.

Elected officials PLEASE stick to protecting our streets, spending wisely, balancing our budget, protecting

those that protect us (police officers, firefighters, military personnel, etc.). Too much time is spent worrying

about being elected during the next cycle! Too much time is spent opposing the other party. PLEASE spend

more time running efficient government for ALL the people of the United States.

Yes, that includes the LGBTQ+, felons, heterosexuals, and law-abiding citizens. Don't pick and choose.

All human beings have some issue in their life they have to deal with. The government is not their counselor.

Thank you

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From: Janis Berger <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: special transgender driver's licenses


To Whom It May Concern at the BMV: October 30, 2019

I respectfully submit that the Indiana BMV DOES NOT NEED to revamp all driver’s licenses to appease a

handful of gender confused Hoosiers who want to choose the sex on their license to fit their mental viewpoint.

This would, I’m sure, be an unnecessary expense to the Indiana tax payers. Let alone add unnecessary laws on

the books and extra expense and confusion to the Court system. Thus endangering law enforcement and

emergency medical personnel while trying to perform their duty in the event of an accident when the actual

biological sex of a person needs to be known and thus possibly causing lawsuits in the process. This would be

like opening a can of worms to further the congestion of the Courts.

A few points to ponder are as follows:



• Requiring a person to identify their true biology from birth does not prevent someone from living out a

male or female identity.


• Emergency medical and law enforcement personnel need to know a person's actual biological sex to

perform their duty in the event of an accident.


• The form to change one’s gender has no guidelines for what that means or involves. It is merely a doctor's

signature.

The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to advance a

political agenda.

Respectfully yours,

Mr. & Mrs. Eric Berger

Wakarusa, IN

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From: Linda Colbart <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal


There are only two genders in this world and that will never change, no matter how hard the political left seem to want to twist things. I am getting pretty sick and tired of all this political stuff being shoved down our throats. God created Adam and Eve and that is the bottom line. We Christians need to stand up and call a spade a spade. Do not try to rewrite the book. Sincerely, Linda P Colbart

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From: Rita McNeely <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: lifestyle choice not the business of the BMV


The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to advance a political agenda.

• Why is Indiana spending the taxes of hard working Hoosiers to advance a sexual lifestyle choice.

It’s aggravating to imagine how many resources you have already spent discussing this issue. I’m

out here working hard paying taxes and you are using that money to fund this kind of stuff. This is

outrageous!

• Why not just remove gender entirely from this document since if it’s not necessary for it to be

accurate then what’s the point of having it at all?

I would appreciate it if you would stop this nonsense. Rita McNeely

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: Public Comment on Transgender Driver's Licenses Issue


Dear Indiana BMV:

The BMV is taking public comment on the issue of does Indiana need transgender Driver's Licenses,

so I am writing to share my opinion and comment on the matter. To answer the question posed, No!

One’s gender or sex is not unknown or fluid as some suggest.


characterize themselves. There is no “X” at birth – does not exist.

• Requiring a person to identify their true biology based on their birth certificate and at the time of

their birth does not prevent someone from living out a male or female identity if they so choose.

Many people have one name on a licenses or birth certificate but go by another name around

friends if they so choose.

• Driver's licenses are not supposed to be political statements about lifestyle choices!


to perform their duty in the event of an accident. For example, say a female by birth is living her

life as a male, has that on her driver’s licenses and dresses/displays outwardly to be male. Yet

because of her female anatomy, her emergency is a result of a reproductive issue. If the person is

unconscious, how will medical professionals know to consider that in treatment if they have a

transgender Driver’s Licenses?

• Allowing false data on Indiana's driver's licenses compromises the integrity of the license. And I

think it will further complicate the authenticity of licenses making it that much easier for someone

to pose as one gender, identify as another, tell the doctor and licenses branch something different.

Then, should the person be involved in criminal activities, it gets that much more confusing to

distinguish for law enforcement, while making it easier for the criminal.


doctor's signature.

Again, the Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to

advance a political agenda!

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

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Sincerely,

Krista Rexroth

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From: RICHARD MOORE <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender “X” drivers license


Indiana should not allow the proposed transgender drivers license for these reasons:










doctor's signature.

Dr. Jennifer Moore

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From: D Tippmann <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender designation on DL comment


Please do not change the current Indiana driver’s license to include more than male or female designation for

sex.



• Driver's licenses are not supposed to be political statements about lifestyle choices. Thank you, Dani Tippmann 13935 Yellow River Rd. Fort Wayne, IN 46818

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From: Martin Steury <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Drivers license











doctor's signature.

The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to

advance a political agenda.

Sincerely ,

Martin Steury

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From: Fran Carey <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender licenses.


Please don't have special transgender licenses in IN.

There are only two biological sexes fixed at conception, regardless of how individuals choose to characterize

themselves.

Thank you for your consideration.

Fran Carey

Shipshewana, IN 46565

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From: Don <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: concerning potential change to "sex" on BVM driver's licenses


Genesis 1:27b states “ God he created them; male and female he created them.” (NIV) All I ask is who in the Indiana

BMV or any level of Indiana government has any authority above God Almighty to change what He has created and

ordained to be the truth and the only truth relating to ones sexuality? And there is a final judgement that will be done by

a Judge higher than any human judge.

Don Vogel

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From: Marion Halverson <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender fluid drivers license



You must not be thinking with a clear mind about this topic. Too many pitfalls to even consider this change in our

drivers licenses. We are against it. Daryl and Marion Halverson

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From: Cindy Robbins <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Neutral gender license



Please reconsider your decision on gender choice. A drivers license is supposed to be proof of identification. A person

has a right to pretend to be a differ gender than what they really are but, lying about it on an official document is illegal

and should remain that way. If my eyes are blue and I cover them with brown contacts, I still have blue eyes even

though I want them to be brown. Official documents need to hold truth.

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From: Erma Casselman <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender



DO NOT REVAMP THE DRIVERS LICENSE GENDER-IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE MALE OR FEMALE ......

Erma

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From: Nellie Arnett <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X licenses


Hi,

I understand that the discussion has started about having Gender X as a choice in the Indiana driver’s license,

and I’m emailing you to give you my feedback on the matter.

1. A driver’s license is used to prove identity in many situations besides driving, so having random

information listed compromises the integrity of the document.

2. There are 2 genders in science. There are 2 genders in all of nature regardless of how someone chooses

to live their life. Having their natural born gender listed on the drivers license doesn’t keep someone

from living how they wish.

3. Having the birth gender listed on the license could potentially help law enforcement and medical

personal in the case of an emergency.

4. A driver’s license is not the place to make a statement about a lifestyle choice.

Please keep the integrity of our official driver’s licenses and require the natural biology to determine the gender

on this document. A person can freely choose to live as they like, but official documents should remain truthful.

Otherwise they are no longer official.

Thank you for your time.

Nellie Arnett

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From: big blue farm <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: "Gender X" driver's licenses.


The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to advance a

political agenda. Please reconsider adding Gender X to driver's liscenes.








• Allowing false data on Indiana's driver's licenses compromises the integrity of the license. Thank you for your time, Rachel Scott

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From: Derek Besing <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender license



I am strongly against any “gender neutral” license or any change to the current male female designation!!!!!!!

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From: Craig Sbc <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Proposed rule on gender choice on driver’ licenses


BMV proposed rule change comments.

I’m against the rule change to Indiana Driver’s licenses:










doctor's signature.

The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to

advance a political agenda.

Regards,

Craig Maners

Brownsburg, IN

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender Driver's Licenses


As a resident of Indiana, I DO NOT want to perpetuate the lie that transgenderism is either normal or acceptable. Almighty God is the only ONE who determines ones biological sex and that is done at their conception. Our country is currently in a moral and sociological mess and it would not be so if humans would simply face truth and live accordingly. The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to advance a political and immoral agenda.










doctor's signature.

Respectfully,

Cheryl L. Spence

484 Hampton Dr

Richmond, IN 47374

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From: Mary Pence <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender licenses


You have got to be kidding!!!!!!! Did you ever have a biology class?! These people wanting these licenses need

help and you are just another enabler. There is such a small number of dysphoric individuals and people like

you are letting them dictate the will of the many. Wake up

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From: Jody McMahon <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Fluid sex


I am embarrassed that Indiana would fall for such a ruse as fluid sex identity in BMV. This is such a small

percentage of loud mouth people who want to disrupt norms over what is actually a mental disorder. Will you

kindly wake up. Do your job and not indulge whining overgrown brats who have been coddled by everyone and

just get the paperwork done correctly on what sex they were at berth or refuse them the privilege to drive. How

about that!

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From: Norma Fitzsimons <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Drivers license identities.


We are either male or female. These are the only choices to consider.

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From: Eric J. Haley <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender x proposal


Why would you even consider such a thing as proposing a gender x option on the driver's license? This is an ID not just used by the BMV but by medical services and could be one of the key items to identify a person involved in a medical emergency or death. I would think that such information should be biologically correct. If I am mistaken in that, then can you tell me what is the purpose of gender being stated on the driver's license? If it has no real purpose, I suggest that you remove it entirely. If gender is fluid, it would not make sense to have it stated anymore than having ones hair style or color of clothing stated. If gender is not fluid (and we know that biologically it is not) then stating the gender has a purpose for biological identification. Please us common sense here. Eric

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Phone: (574) 652-2151

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From: CSI <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Stand with truth


My email is to vote against Indiana joining the insanity of people denying natural law and science by allowing

someone to lie about their biology on their driver’s license. Other points include:



• Allowing someone to misidentified themselves will allow sexual predators to continue to abuse

children








doctor's signature.

Thank you Kevin Cook

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From: Vickie Aughinbaugh <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender neutral drivers license


I do not feel that this is necessary

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From: Wendy Brant <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal



Totally opposed to making drivers License reflect an abnormal political minority view.It always has been Adam and Eve ,

not Adam and Steve or whatever.…

Wendy Brant

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From: Bill <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: gendeer


Greetings,

To whom it may concern;

God made to genders, male and female, period. No matter what man does that will not change. Changing driver’s

licenses to satisfy a group of perverts will not change their sex.

Regards;

Bill Prater

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From: Gwendolyn Jackson <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X. Please say no



BMV- This Gender X idea on driver's licenses. Is a very bad idea. There are only 2 sexes. Why would you even consider

opening this can of worms? This sounds like crazy California rather than common sense Indiana. VP Pence would be

appalled and embarrassed by his home state. As a taxpayer of Indiana, I don't want any of my money spent on this

nonsense. Thank you. Gwen Jackson

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From: Amy Canaday <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X licenses


Dear BMV,

Let me be brief. There is nothing more LUDICROUS than a non-gender driver's license. There is male and

female which is determined by the structure of your physical body. It is not fluid. We must not waste taxpayer

resources on this garbage.

Sincerely,

Amy Canaday

Fishers, IN

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From: Kerry Krininger <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: gender confusion


Please do not go along with this insane idea that there are more than male and female. Do NOT embarrass our

state/ country by issuing gender fluid license!! This sickening and disturbing!! Do not allow the small number

of deviants to make public policy!!

Kerry Krininger

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From: Tim Pedigo <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender change on License



I realize there is great political pressure to go along with this movement of gender identification. I just want to lend my

voice to all of those who are against these measures. I do not believe that our laws and licenses need to undergo

continual alterations for every small group that make their demands. I sincerely hope you will not give way and make

these changes. Thank you for your consideration.

Tim Pedigo

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From: Sheri Huston <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Proposed gender change


I would ask that our BMV not make changes to our current licenses to allow a choice other than male or

female. Basically, identifying as a gender other than the one a person is born with does not make it so.

Sheri Huston

454 E. Thompson Street

Winchester, IN. 47394

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From: jane greenwood <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X license...NO



To Whom it may Concern,

Sorry, but how does this help the majority of the drivers out there? I’m totally against making gender neutral licenses.

Why change everything for a few people?

How does this help a police officer do his duty if someone decides today their a boy and not a girl? It just doesn’t work

that way.

Jane Greenwood

Granger Indiana

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From: Barb Fox <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender x


I have been informed that Indiana is considering allowing “Gender X” on our driver’s licenses. I would like to

respectfully comment that I believe this would be an extremely bad decision. Please do not give in to the hype

and noise of confused individuals and the people who are cheering them on in their delusion. Please stand by

what is true and proved by science and without question since the beginning of time.

--

On earth, as in heaven,

Barb

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From: JAMES ERDOS <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender Drivers License


I am offended by the idea that the State of Indiana would consider legalizing a transgender driver's license. Physicality must define only one of two choices for the sex of Indiana drivers. James Erdos Anderson, Indiana

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From: Bruce Boyd <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Say NO to gender X licenses


BMV,

We were extremely disappointed to hear that our home state of IN is actually considering creating gender fluid

DL’s. This is science-denying political correctness pandering. Gender is NOT something that’s scientifically

subjective! There are only 2 biological sexes which are fixed at conception.

People may have a right to “re-categorize” themselves, but to have that validated on their DL totally denigrates

the official nature and importance of the license. You may as well allow birthdates and race to be subjective,

and any other identifying factors that a person “feels” like changing.

Make the wise decision and reject this move to simply accommodate cultural whims which have zero basis in

science and devalue a very important governmental document.

Bruce and Julie Boyd

Fishers IN

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From: L. Destefano <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender fluid driver license, a very bad idea


To whom it may concern: I understand you are taking public comment, and I'd like to register my opinion as very much against the idea of fluidity, since it may be a security issue, just as wearing a certain hairstyle or a burqa, for instance, could obscure ID. If a person is truly a transgender, they will look like their stated gender, but otherwise it would be a joke, and the question might be asked how such a license could actually serve as a serious picture ID? Thank you. Laurel DeStefano 3955 Stratfield Way Westfield, IN 46074 317--626-4803

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From: Janet Gaines <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Transgender Licenses



Dear INDIANA BMV representatives,

I respectfully request that you do not change our license to allow transgender designation. This is repugnant to those

Indiana residents who are Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Please do not allow this issue to creep into our culture. We are

honorable people who are degraded by this belief. There is a small group of people who are trying to legitimize this

concept. Please hold the line. We, our children, and future generations are depending on you to keep our God given

identity intact.

Thank you

Janet Gaines

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From: Sarah Bosworth <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender identification on DL



To whom it may concern:

In regard to gender choice changes on the drivers license applications, please consider preserving the current system

with clear choices. There is no need to have a gender less option when male and female are adequate.

Thank you,

Sarah Bravo

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From: PAULINE WAFFLE <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Please do not have any changes made to my driver’s license regarding sex that would

be man offense to our Creator!!!


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From: bthomp9 <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: No


I oppose adding gender x to drivers licenses.

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From: Peter Bosworth <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: No need for more



Please do not change the forms to accommodate genders other than male or female which have served us well for

centuries.

Thank you,

Peter Bosworth

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From: Lisa Brassie <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender neutral Drivers License


I am against a Gender Neutral Drivers License!

I am contacting the Governor’s office and all of the local and state representatives.

Sincerely,

Lisa Brassie

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From: Karen Leff <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: gender change license


I disagree with his change as it only costs the tax payer more money to process the changes as the people decide

to change their genders, which does happen frequently.

We are both with one gender so why does it have to be changed on the license, that does not make it our legal

ID as it has been altered.

Come on, Indiana! Where are we going with this?

Sincerely,

Karen Leff

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From: Linda Stanford <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: driver license


Indiana Drivers do not need a gender X drivers license. Sex is not something someone can truly change through synthetic chemicals or disfiguring surgeries. There are only 2 biological sexes, which is fixed at conception. Emergency medical and law enforcement personnel need to know a person's actual biological sex to perform their duty in the event of an accident. The Indiana BMV should not turn Indiana's most significant form of identification into a tool to advance a political agenda. Please do not revamp all driver's licenses to appease a handful of gender confused Hoosiers who want to choose the sex on their license to fit their mental viewpoint Linda Stanford 12752 Alexander St Cedar Lake, IN 46303

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From: Adrienne Pendleton <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Changing genders on operator's licenses


Please do not change the genders on operator's licenses. Operator's licenses are supposed to be Real IDs, which are anatomically correct so law enforcement and rescue workers can best identify and help people.

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From: John Vance <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X


No gender X licenses ever to be issued in Indiana. Do you people in the government ever get tired of

capitulating to these monsters who try to force their will on us?

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From: Cheryl Klingberg <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: 2 Genders


There are 2 Genders, male & female, please stop encouraging this fantasy world of some.

NO GENDER X PLEASE

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From: Beth <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Changing sex on drivers license


To whom it may concern:

I am against being able to change sex on a drivers license. God makes us male or female and it is used for

identification purposes and that's that. It's time the majority take their stand on a few things and quit letting the

minority change all the rules.

Thank you,

Elizabeth McKee

Thank you

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From: David & Ruth Nutty <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: gender fluid driver's licenses


I am voicing my opinion to the proposed change to "gender fluid" driver's licenses. I think the whole idea is

absurd!

The entire reason we have been required to go to the star version of licenses is for better means of identification.

By going to gender fluid, you are taking a huge step backward in ensuring a secure, logical, reliable means of

identification for the citizens of Indiana.

I believe it is extremely unwise to go in this direction. Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Ruth Nutty,

Connersville, Indiana

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: License Change


Hello,

I am voicing disapproval for the proposed changes to our Indiana State Identification or Driver License.

Everyone is born with a biological sex. Although men are free to dress as women in our country, dressing like a

lady, or feeling like a lady does not change his biological sex. It has been found foolish to allow men to

compete with women in running because although he feels like a lady, his biological make up is that of a man

and gives him an unfair advantage.

This change is not based on science, but politics. Please leave the license alone. The harm you may not see now,

will surely come as this is one step forward in eroding the foundations of marriage - which is essential to the

well being of children based on multiple well reported studies.

Thank you.

Donald

2003 N Hickory Cir E

North Vernon, IN 47265

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From: Joe Shoemaker <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Choosing your sex on your drivers license.



I respectfully request that you leave the identification to either male or female those are scientifically the only two real

options. Thank you

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From: Taylor, Don <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X Driver's License


I want to express my strong opposition to your consideration of allowing a person to choose the gender on the driver’s

license or allow it to be X. Biologically we are either male or female, the chromosomes and anatomy show this. We do

not allow a person to choose their race, their height, etc., factors that are determined by biology, so why would we

allow a person to choose their gender? To cave into political correctness on this issue is a mistake that will lead us down

a slippery slope of other issues and problems in the future. Please keep the gender on our driver’s licenses as

determined at birth. Thanks for considering my opinion.

Donald L. Taylor, EdD, USPTA Men's Tennis Coach Professor Emeritus 236 W. Reade Ave. Upland, IN 46989-1001 Office: 765-998-5300 Fax: 765-998-4920 Cell: 765-717-1059

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From: Mizbee <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Public comment on changes to sex designation on DL


Greetings~ Please record my comment that there should be no change to the way Indiana records sex on driver's licenses. Sex is a biological and unchangeable trait. Despite what one feels or thinks on any given day. Despite how one chooses to dress or present oneself. Sex is determinative and unchangeable at the cellular, DNA level. Our most exacting, most used form of identification should reflect those facts. Government issued ID should NOT reflect a person's feelings or internal view of who they are. People may choose to present themselves differently from their biological sex and are free to do so, however it is not reasonable to reflect these changes in ID. This system can easily be manipulated by those wishing to cause confusion for nefarious reasons. Changing our highest form of ID for a political cause or psychological desire is unwise and unsafe. Gwyn Borcherding Avon, IN

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From: Russ Mounsey <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X driver's licenses


To whom it may concern in Indiana,

We live in times where everything seems to be up to opinion, even scientific facts. People have choices how

they want to live and what they believe, and this is mostly a good ideal. However, we need to be careful to not

throw years of scientific facts out the window for the sake of political correctness. The field of DNA research

has never been more studied and is becoming more and more useful when it comes to solving crimes and

reuniting families. We have known for years that people are born with DNA that identify us as male or female.

Why have we come to the point where we are letting people decide to live in a "make believe" world of

gender choice? What will be next? Can a person say they are an animal? An object? An extra-terrestrial being?

It's hard to prosecute an animal in the same fashion as a human? Last I knew, animals don't have the same

rights as humans. But we're creating a slippery slope if we keep ignoring facts and making concessions to

political correctness.

Please consider the repercussions of caving to the ridiculous ideas of a small percentage of our populations

that want to see the destruction of all that is right.

Russ Mounsey

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From: Sonja Greiwe <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender on Licenses


Friends,

Indiana has a long standing procedure of only including Male and Female as choices when applying for a

driver's license. Please continue with this policy. Male or Female designations are very important to police and

TSA who work hard to keep the public safe and doctors who work very hard to keep people alive. This legal

document is needed by all. People are absolutely free to express themselves as they wish, but we need a

standard our state can count on which includes biological sex.

Thank you for taking my opinion into consideration.

Sonja Greiwe

Fishers, IN

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From: Diana Bowman <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender issue on drivers licenses



Please, I implore you, do not seek to change the gender identification on the drivers licenses. This form of identification

need not be tampered with. The government needs to remain neutral on this issue and keep the male/female gender

identification as what was apparent at birth and not as someone chooses to identify as at the moment. This is an ever-

changing and very slippery slope. No amount of meds or surgeries can change how a person was born and that’s male or

female, not unknown or X. That is absurd.

Thank you for your consideration.

D. Bowman

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From: Mike Fulks <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender Fluid Driver's Licenses?


People are free to live, and dress as they choose, but changing our state’s highest form of identification for a political cause or a psychological desire is unwise and the slippery slope of political correctness.” (Where does it end?)

Mike FulksMike FulksMike FulksMike Fulks

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From: Steve Nevins <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Drivers Licenses


Millions of rational thinking Hoosiers (including myself) think that allowing one of the highest forms of

identification in Indiana to be compromised by people "confused" by their own identity.

A SUBJECTIVE standard (like our BMV) has a responsibility to make a driver's license credible by making it

observably accurate. State officials will make a laughing stock of themselves and our state if you allow

emotionally unstable people to dictate reality. Logically speaking, it opens the floodgates to people claiming to

be something they are not. Frankly, it would be as fair if I demanded on my license to be Asian, 6'5" and 300#

(even though I am observably 5'10", 225# and caucasian.

I cannot believe we need to even have this conversation!

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From: phil culp <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Driver's License Gender ID


Dear BMV, Sex is not something someone can truly change through synthetic chemicals or disfiguring surgeries. Yet, the proposed rule from the BMV allows a doctor to simply sign a form attesting that a person has

changed their sex from male to female, female to male or either to “X non-binary” as if sex is

something fluid or unknown. This aforementioned proposed rule is the epitome of NON-sense! I strongly urge the BMV to reject the lunacy of political-correctness, and embrace REAL-science, clear-thinking logic, and common-sense, and keep the sex ID on Driver's licenses as they have always been. Sincerely, Phil Culp Ft. Wayne, IN

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From: D Woolsey <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Choosing my gender


To Whom It May Concern,

Although I was born female, as a child, I never liked playing with dolls, playing house, or the other "girly"

things. I wanted to be outside, in the mud, riding bikes, playing baseball, all those "boy" activities. Even today, I

prefer sports and have more "manly" interests.

Now I find that Indiana is considering a change to our driver's license that would allow me to choose that I am a

male. This is astonishing to me. However, no matter what I like to do or how I look on the outside, I was born

female, and there is absolutely nothing that can change this. It is in my DNA. Putting something else on my

official id that is used when I fly and for other things has far-reaching consequences that I don't think we can

even imagine at this time. Please reconsider this. Keep our driver's licenses reflective of the gender we are, not

want we wish or want, or one to which we attempt to change.

Sincerely,

Debbie K Woolsey

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From: Vivian Himelick <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: GENDER IDENTITY


Unless this is required by the United States Government..because they are stupid enough to suggest a Gender

X is reality....

Please leave the current license gender identity alone.

There are 2 genders. period..not three, four or 58.

This is a slippery slope, and Indiana need not participate!

Vivian Himelick

7597W800N

Connersville, Ind 47331

gender: female!!(If you cant tell it by my name!)

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From: Bob Palma <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: "X" for sex on Driver's Licenses


The idea of having anything other than M and F on driver's license is ridiculous, and not to be

decided by an unelected Bureau of Motor Vehicles to pander to the sexually confused among us.

People are free to live and dress as they choose, but changing our state’s highest form of identification for a political cause or a psychological desire is unwise and the slippery slope of political

correctness.

Bob Palma

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From: Patty Jackson <[email protected]>

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:54 AM

To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender Fluid DL


As a citizen of Indiana, I am against changing our drivers licenses to reflect current politically correct culture.

We are known for being the heartland of this nation, where sound, grounded common sense thinking is

practiced. Please, let's keep our values in tack and keep our licenses as they are!

Thank you!

Patty Jackson

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From: Ed and Pat Probst <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal; Ryan Lauer; [email protected]

Subject: Gender X license


Greetings, Please accept my input as you debate adding a Gender X category to Male and Female on Indiana driver's license. I strongly oppose such an idea for many reasons.Biological gender should be reflected on the license until this matter has been better thought out and reviewed by the Indiana Legislature. Ed Probst 1920 Franklin St. Columbus, IN 47201

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From: Dacia Reid <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender identification


Please refrain from confusing gender identification with personal preference. A biological designation should be

the determining factor in gender identity on our Indiana licenses. I was so pleased Indiana was ahead of the

game in requiring Real ID before some other states. Please don't undermine our security by ambiguous gender

issues. Our safety must come first. A clear biological gender differentiation is vital to our state and countries

law enforcement. We can't have criminals switching genders in order to hide their identity.

Thank you

Dacia Reid

405 S. Elm St

Nappanee, Indiana

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From: John T. Belt <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X


Dear BMV please don't change the states highest form of identification to accommodate an individual's feelings

about themselves .

Sincerely, John T Belt

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender fluid?


God made 2 sexes! Don’t give into the silly confused of a few to insult many.

Keith Hoffman

Goshen, IN

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From: Cricket Blair <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: IN does not need gender fluid driver's license




I wish to voice my concern regarding the proposed idea of changing the driver’s licenses content to include the “Gender

X” instead of the usual “Male” or “Female”. People are free to live and dress as they choose, but changing Indiana’s

highest form of identification for a psychological desire is unwise. I hope that you would consider all the implications of

this possible change and consider the safety of our citizens above political correctness.


Sincerely,

~Stephanie Blair

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From: Kevin Bowditch (6871) <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Driver's license


Male or Female.

A or B, not X.

Kevin Bowditch| Welding Specialist| Body Shop| Subaru of Indiana Automotive, Inc. 765-449-6871 office | 765-449-6398 fax | [email protected]| www.subaru-sia.com

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From: Agnes Kerr <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X



I am certainly against Gender x you are either male or female. Indiana has values lets keep it that way. We are not Calif.

or New York. Thank you Agnes and Clyde Kerr, 8203 Bentley Farms Dr. Indianapolis, 46259

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From: Frances Foskey <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X driver license


people are free to live, and dress as they choose, but changing our state’s highest form of identification for a political cause or a psychological desire is unwise and the slippery slope of political

correctness.

Please deny this useless driver license.

Sincerely Frances Foskey 10417 Traders Point Fort Wayne indiana 46845

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From: Paul VanDokkenburg <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: License Credibility


It is a bad idea to allow people to change their sex on an official document based on how they feel. As critical as

identification is these days, we need to base licenses on verifiable facts. You can prove whether someone is a biological

male or female, but you can’t prove what gender someone feels like. People are free to feel and dress like whatever

gender they choose, but that doesn’t justify falsifying our most official form of identification. Please keep our licenses

accurate and credible.

Thanks,

Paul H Van Dokkenburg, President

Bouma-Betten Corp

216 Farabee Drive (47905)

P.O. Box 5554 (47903)

Lafayette, IN

Ph: 765-447-5000 ex. 1

Fx: 765-447-1799

Cell: 765-479-1587

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From: Patricia Appel <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender driver’s license



To whom this may concern,

I think it is totally against the law to change the identity of our driver’s license. If a person wants to change their true

identity it doesn’t have anything to do with Indiana’s laws. It is their personal desire and upon doing so doesn’t mean it

must change our laws.

Sincerely

Pat Appel

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From: Mike Mitchell <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal





I am emailing to express my opinion regarding subject policy change that is being considered. I am against adopting this

practice as I believe it is another step down a path that is harmful to our great state and another piece of what many

espouse as political correct behavior that is harming our nation. I appreciate the opportunity to communicate on this

matter.

Mike Mitchell

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From: Brad Gilchrist <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Driver's Lic change


Please do not change the gender on the Indiana driver’s license.

Law enforcement needs to know immediately what the gender of a person is for identification purposes. This is critical in

many situations in order to protect the public.

As any rational person knows, you are born a male or a female --- no matter how you feel. Feelings do not trump an

obvious physical fact.


Brad Gilchrist | Trailer Sales Specialist 1851 W. Thompson Rd. Indianapolis, IN 46217 Office 317-916-6583 | Cell 317-696-6591 www.stoops.com

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From: Sherri L. Weilbaker <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender X


I am writing to voice my dis-approval of the proposed change relating to our identification of sex on our driver’s license.

This makes no sense to me why as a state and nation we continue to change things for a small group of individuals that

are confused on their gender. We are born male or female and that is how we are identified. Please do not make this

change to add X as a gender.

Thank you,

Sherri Weilbaker

10116 S State Road 335

Pekin, IN 47165

(Washington County)

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From: paulastreeting7478 <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Gender fluid driver's license


I wanted to Express my opinion again on this matter, l've already called awhile back and now there's going to be

a meeting the 25th to decide what they are going to do. We are born either male or female no matter how much

a person tries to tell themselves otherwise. It is a lie to say your something your not which is something we can

get in trouble for and it's called falsifying the truth. I may want to live somewhere other than where l live but

putting down a false address doesn't change matters. People are free to live their lives as they please but lying

about your gender is unacceptable. Please stick to the truth and l thank you for your time.

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From: Alan Starr <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Please do not follow a very small fraction of Hoosiers seeking some sort of

accommodation...


Greetings,

I’ve been made aware that the BMV of Indiana is considering allowing persons to ‘self-identify’ what their sex is on their

driver’s license. It is not wise for our state to aid individuals in not dealing with this confusion that they are experiencing

by giving in to political correctness and changing the way driver’s licenses are processed in our state. The agenda of the

LGBTQ movement is one of imposing their view on the majority of our culture and society. Please use common sense in

these matters and don’t just do what is PC today…

Thank you for your service in our State!

For the glory of the King in 2019!

Alan

F. Alan Starr

Field Coordinator in French-speaking Africa

Wycliffe Bible Translators

Talk or Text: 765-421-8196

Skype: kosimeze

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To: BMV Legal

Subject: gender flexiblity in a driver license



Dear BMV,

I strongly request that BMV reconsider the idea of making allowances for changing on e's gender or sex based on how

they feel or identify or even how they have sought to be seen via medical treatment. The driver license is the highest

means of identification and is used for voting, for police in traffic stops, to buy items for adults only (alcohol , cigarettes

etc) if allowed to proceed even medical procedures can be

prevented or not even suggested simply because of what an ID card might state.

Thomas J Leland,

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From: John Aukerman <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal



I write to oppose this change. It is not needed, and is a useless gesture to political correctness that offends

millions of drivers. It also offends science, which clearly states that there are only two genders. Please do not

take this action.

John Aukerman

1214 Oakland Dr.

Anderson, IN 46012

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From: Tim Bucher <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal

Subject: Stop the idea of changing sex based on choice



Why would the state of Indiana allow someone to change their sex on their driver’s license based on feelings?

Our identity is determined at birth, why would the state make this change.

Please leave the system the way it is.

Tim bucher

Tim Bucher | President

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Tel: (219) 465-4500 Ext. 321 | Fax: (219) 465-5476

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Email: [email protected]

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From: Tim Schrank <[email protected]>


To: BMV Legal



I agree with Micah Clark when he said “people are free to live, and dress as they choose, but changing our

state’s highest form of identification for a political cause or a psychological desire is unwise and the

slippery slope of political correctness.” I would highly recommend not making the changes proposed.

Tim Schrank Integrity Tool, Inc. 1116 SR46 West Batesville, IN 47006 812-933-5421 Office 812-212-3715 Cell

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Please do not consider this move to promote trans gender ... · of crazies that you’re opening the door for. It would be nice if you’d first consider the protection of the majority