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Other endpoints in Other endpoints in screening studies for Soft screening studies for Soft Tissue Sarcomas Tissue Sarcomas Jaap Verweij MD.PhD Jaap Verweij MD.PhD Dept of Medical Oncology Dept of Medical Oncology Erasmus University Medical Center Erasmus University Medical Center Rotterdam Rotterdam The Netherlands The Netherlands

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Page 1: Other endpoints in screening studies for Soft Tissue Sarcomas Jaap Verweij MD.PhD Dept of Medical Oncology Erasmus University Medical Center Rotterdam

Other endpoints in screening Other endpoints in screening studies for Soft Tissue Sarcomasstudies for Soft Tissue Sarcomas

Jaap Verweij MD.PhDJaap Verweij MD.PhDDept of Medical OncologyDept of Medical Oncology

Erasmus University Medical CenterErasmus University Medical CenterRotterdamRotterdam

The NetherlandsThe Netherlands

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TimeTime

Disease

SurrogateEndpoint True

ClinicalOutcome

TimeTime

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Disease

Surrogate

Endpoint

True Clinical

Outcome

Intervention

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Question:Question:

If you know of all these ……… (Your Markers!)If you know of all these ……… (Your Markers!)Would you be able to cure Would you be able to cure

metastatic soft tissue sarcoma metastatic soft tissue sarcoma (your ultimate aim)?(your ultimate aim)?

This is just a random selection of photographs. I apologize to This is just a random selection of photographs. I apologize to anyone who is not listedanyone who is not listed

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Disease

Surrogate

Endpoint

True Clinical

Outcome

Intervention

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We Should Desist Using RECISTat Least in GIST

Robert S. Benjamin, M.D.Department of Sarcoma Medical Oncology

The SARCOMA Center

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Time to Progression - Nonresponders

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Months

Time to Progression - Responders

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It is easier It is easier to splice to splice an atom an atom than a than a

prejudiceprejudice

A.EinsteinA.Einstein

Page 8: Other endpoints in screening studies for Soft Tissue Sarcomas Jaap Verweij MD.PhD Dept of Medical Oncology Erasmus University Medical Center Rotterdam

How can we find How can we find the proof of the proof of concept:concept:

earlyearly when tumors do when tumors do

not shrink with not shrink with treatmenttreatment

??

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Screening for new drugs in STS

Are we looking Are we looking at the right at the right spot?spot?

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Which endpoint to use in Which endpoint to use in screening for new agents?screening for new agents?

Response rateResponse rate Progression Free RateProgression Free Rate Progression Arrest RateProgression Arrest Rate TTP ratioTTP ratio

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Response RateResponse Rate Advantage: Advantage:

Response relatively easily measurableResponse relatively easily measurable

Disadvantage: Disadvantage: Does not take duration into account (DTIC 17%, Does not take duration into account (DTIC 17%,

duration 10 weeks)duration 10 weeks) Several cytotoxics discarded for response rate, Several cytotoxics discarded for response rate,

but high SD ratebut high SD rate May not be appropriate for new cytostatic agentsMay not be appropriate for new cytostatic agents

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time (months)

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Hypothetical tumor Hypothetical tumor evolution during treatmentevolution during treatment

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Is stable disease a Is stable disease a relevant achievement?relevant achievement?

i.e: CR+PR+i.e: CR+PR+SDSD

vs vs

PDPD

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O N Number of patients at risk :221 234 47 16 5 1

136 146 55 18 14 11

Inactive agents

Active agents

Progression free rateProgression free rate(2(2ndnd line treatment) line treatment)

Van Glabbeke et al, EJC 38:543-549,2002Van Glabbeke et al, EJC 38:543-549,2002

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Progression free rates (2Progression free rates (2ndnd line) line)

2 %2 %10 %10 %3 %3 %28 %28 %380380All patientsAll patients

33 %%1414 %%44 % %3939 %%146146ActiveActive

2 %2 %8 %8 %3 %3 %21 %21 %234234InactiveInactive

SESEEstim.Estim.SESEEstim.Estim.

6 months6 months3 months3 monthsNNType of drugType of drug

Van Glabbeke et al, EJC 38:543-549,2002Van Glabbeke et al, EJC 38:543-549,2002

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evolution during evolution during treatmenttreatment

TTP1TTP1TTP2TTP2

If TTP2/TTP1 If TTP2/TTP1 >> 1.33: potentially active 1.33: potentially active agent*agent*

* Mick et al, Contr.Clin.Trials 21:343-359. 2000* Mick et al, Contr.Clin.Trials 21:343-359. 2000

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ET-743 as 3rd line ET-743 as 3rd line treatment inj soft tissue treatment inj soft tissue

sarcomasarcoma

Total populationTotal population Patients without tumor Patients without tumor regression but long regression but long

lasting stable diseaselasting stable diseaseASCO 2003, # ASCO 2003, # 32933293

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It could take long to assessIt could take long to assess And in screening studies we would like And in screening studies we would like

to know earlyto know early

The problem of durationThe problem of duration

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Using progression rateUsing progression rateSet maximum PD rate Set maximum PD rate above which agent will above which agent will

be rejectedbe rejectedPD rate of interest will depend on tumor typePD rate of interest will depend on tumor type

TumorTumor RRRR PD ratePD ratebreastbreast >30%>30% <20%<20%NSCLCNSCLC >20%>20% <30%<30%GliomaGlioma >10%>10% <40% <40% STSSTS >10%>10% <50% (??)<50% (??)

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Progression Arrest* RatesProgression Arrest* Rates

* Van Oosterom, In: Clinical Management of soft tissue * Van Oosterom, In: Clinical Management of soft tissue sarcomas. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers, 131-138, 1986sarcomas. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers, 131-138, 1986

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Response versus Symptom benefit rate*Response versus Symptom benefit rate*

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Response rate Symptom improvement rate

Gefitinib in NSCLCGefitinib in NSCLC

Imatinib in GISTImatinib in GIST

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ConclusionsConclusionsAim of screening studiesAim of screening studies

To estimate a.s.a.p.if a drug may be To estimate a.s.a.p.if a drug may be useful for patientsuseful for patients

Endpoint for screening studiesEndpoint for screening studies Progression free ratesProgression free rates Progression arrest ratesProgression arrest rates TTP ratioTTP ratio Symptom improvement?Symptom improvement?

All of these require proper validationAll of these require proper validation

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