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Ok, that's about enough

If all of us Watchgeeks can't get along, I'm going to have to seperate us all.

Seriously folks. People are upset about being misled by Invicta or DD. People are upset

about the people who are upset about Invicta. People like me are upset about both sides

being upset with each other. Everyone has opinions about how this forum should be and

they're upset because it's not what they want. People are upset with the people who feel the

forum is not what they want. Meanwhile, we still haven't heard from the companies involved.

We're beating each other up for what? Lets all calm down and let the dust settle. There will

plenty of time after we hear from the powers that be to start this hurricane all over again.

Only thing different will be that we will have all the facts and people will take their sides

about it. My opinion really doesn't count so I wont give it. Let's all behave like good kids

again. Thank you.

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Only thing different will be that we will have all the facts and people will take their sides

about it.

Providing we get all the facts.

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another thread on this topic?

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another thread on this topic?

And away we go.....

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I think if we keep all the negativaty Jim ,Micheal and Eyal are going to close this site. I've

only been here since November but it keeps getting worse and worse. If we keep

complaining about the people that support this site why keep it you would think its not worth

it to them. If it weren't for this site all the things said about the Swiss made and the DD

wouldn't be going around.

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So, bring up a thread about something nice.

That'll help.

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complaining about the people that support this site why keep it you would think its not

worth it to them. If it weren't for this site all the things said about the Swiss made and the

DD wouldn't be going around.

very well said ralph, do we want this sight closed? NO NO NO, that is one of the two things

that we all have in common here and the other is watches and if werent for

JIM,NATE,MICHEAL and EYAL we would be on one of those other sites where this kind of crap

is the norm.

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I've seen other Forums go haywire over folks tha

point of view too 'pointy,' I end up stabbing a listener like a bayonet. Then they don't listen.

The point becomes lost. I feel when WGs hums the right way, lots of info and real

relationships come out of it. I th

to lead and keep this private Forum going.

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I started this thread to get people to calm down and let this thing die down for a while.

Wasnt stoking the fire. Was looking for people tolook at what's going on and let everything

settle down and wait for all the facts to come in. If you look at what Jim suggested it's the

same thing. Calm down and wait for it. I'm not being negative, I'm not being judgemental.

Just pointing out we're arguing with each other for no good reason.

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et people to calm down and let this thing die down for a while.



hing. Calm down and wait for it. I'm not being negative, I'm not being judgemental.


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hing. Calm down and wait for it. I'm not being negative, I'm not being judgemental.


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settle down and wait for all the facts to come in. If you look at



You are a well known nice guy...thanks for your post.

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Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing about the same old gripe..Isnt there anything more

interesting to discuss??? Like..whens the Imperious, Arsenal, Sea Hunter etc., coming out???

Golly gee whiz!!!

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im not upset......im just a happy camper...lol.....

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So, bring up a thread about something nice.

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nkly I'm tired of hearing about the same old gripe..Isnt there anything more


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very well said ralph, do we want this sight closed? NO NO NO, that is one of the two things

that we all have in common here and the other is watches and if werent for

JIM,NATE,MICHEAL and EYAL we would be on one of those other sites where this kind of

crap is the norm.

So just because some people opened a site that means that people cant express an opinion

about them? Only positive comments are welcome? If you ask me, that is the WORST type

of forum that could possibly exist. One of the reasons that I always loved this place is

because we were allowed to post any opinion we wanted as long as it was done in a

courteous and polite fashion.

The way to get the owners to not close the site (not that I think they will) is not to stop

expressing your opinions, it is simply to express them in a better fashion. Just my 2 pennies

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I'll quote Santayana's famous proverb:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

If we allow these issues to fall from the collective consciousness then what incentive does it

give Invicta to address them?

That being said, whole discussing these issues, personal attacks should not be condoned.

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I'm sure no one is doubting your good intentions, but your point has already been

made...repeatedly. Starting this thread is flaming the fire, so we should let this rest until we

hear something official.

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News flash>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The silence is deafening.

Bottom line is this, if you like what you see, buy it. There seems to have been many issues

and lots of controversy over the past year with Renato and Invicta at the forefront of the

forum problem discussions. (Not necessarly in that order). Those of us that have been

enjoying this fine hobby for awhile know the pros and cons of said brands. If you feel that

buying something is pro for you, buy it regardless of how it is sold and enjoy wearing it. If

you feel that it is con for you (or that it is a con job) don't buy it. You have the power, you

have the choice.

Truth is, both companies do have some beautiful pieces at good prices. So, if you buy them,

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I too am getting tired of these threads. It is obvious we will not get a response back so let's

move on and think what your common sense tells you.

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complaining about the people that support this site why keep it you would think its not

worth it to them. If it weren't for this site all the things said about the Swiss made and the

DD wouldn't be going around.

IMO,I think it would take much more than complaints to make a hasty decision to shut down

the site.Let's not forget they're in the business to sell watches & more than likely would lose

a lot of sales if this site was shut down.

Many buyers here purchase through the shop & use this forum to relate to others about the

watches they proudly own.

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watchnut62, you are correct. lets get back to the positives of watch collecting. i think we are

now beating a dead horse. more negative posts will not correct any preceived wrongs.

how about some posts on new and up and coming watches and companies. i for one have

just discovered deep blue.

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Cant we all just get along!!!!!!!!! Wait someone said that before!!!!!!!!!!

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IMO,I think it would take much more than complaints to make a hasty decision to shut

down the site.Let's not forget they're in the business to sell watches & more th

would lose a lot of sales if this site was shut down.

Many buyers here purchase through the shop & use this forum to relate to others about

the watches they proudly own.

I don't think the sites in business to sell watches. And if it shut down to

SNBC would miss a beat. Remember, FB is in play hard rite now and there are millions

there.

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ong!!!!!!!!! Wait someone said that before!!!!!!!!!!

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down the site.Let's not forget they're in the business to sell watches & more th

would lose a lot of sales if this site was shut down.


the watches they proudly own.

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down the site.Let's not forget they're in the business to sell watches & more than likely


morrow, i doubt


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I'll quote Santayana's famous proverb:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

If we allow these issues to fall from the collective consciousness then what incentive does it

give Invicta to address them?

That being said, whole discussing these issues, personal attacks should not be condoned.

WELL SAID!!!

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I don't think the sites in business to sell watches. And if it shut down tomorrow, i doubt


there.

I respectfully disagree. At the end of the day this is a watch forum, but also a huge

marketing tool for shopnbc and their watch brands. Two of the three owners here are

affiliated with ShopNBC/Invicta, and their job is to move watches. This is just another way

for them to promote the products.

And I don't have a problem with that...hell I signed up in the beginning when there were

only a couple hundred members. And I only signed up so I could view....guess what? The

sneak peak section.

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expressing your opinions, it is simply

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No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.__________________

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It's all of you posting replys in threads like this that keep the monotone negative drivell


expressing your opinions, it is simply to express them in a better fashion. Just my 2

No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.respectfully which of late has not been the case.

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to express them in a better fashion. Just my 2

No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done No one is saying that you cannot express an opinion , it just has to be done

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This is a watch forum. You should be able to voice your opinion about the products you

recieve. If people are upset about stuff I want to know about it because that will help with

my decision making. Sometimes the complaining gets out of hand, but if people don't like

the complaining just jump on another thread. Just like if you don't like what is on the tv,

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i hope this isnt offensive, but i laughed while reading your post because of how ridiculous

this has all gotten. most people do have valid points, but lets chillax. i agree, lets let teh

dust settle, grab a drink and hope

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about the people who are upset about Invicta. People like me are ups


they're upset because it's not what they want. People are upset with the people who feel

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et about both sides



the forum is not what they want. Meanwhile, we still haven't heard from the companies

involved. We're beating each other up for what? Lets all calm down and let the dust

settle. There will plenty of time after we hear from the powers that be to start this

hurricane all over again. Only thing different will be that we will have all the facts and

people will take their sides about it. My opinion really doesn't count so I wont give it. Let's

all behave like good kids again. Thank you.

I doubt we will hear much more from powers that be.

I don't see why we should.

Eyal wrote a post and people attacked it.

Why would he want to post anything else?

Certainly not so it could be attacked again.

Watches continue to be made and sold .

Eyal has a passion for the design and manufacturing end of watchmaking.

Eyal also has a passion for bringing his creations to market at the best possible prices.

He will continue to focus on these two passions, customer service will continue to be hit and

miss, and people will continue to buy watches.

ShopNBC hosts will continue to make statements that cannot possibly be true.

Not because they are lying, but because they are human and make mistakes.

The Shop will continue to get specs wrong from time to time for the same reason.

Eyal's business model necessitates that he find the most economical means to produce his

products while keeping with the quality standards he has set for the company and different

product lines so he will continue in that pursuit.

Whether people like it or not the Swiss Laws in this area are really broad enough to give

companies quite a bit of latitude. In our global economy with international trade agreements

that even effect the percentages mentioned in the most recently amended Swiss Laws on

this subject. We just need to take all of it with a grain of salt.

If people really want to dig deep I would be willing to bet they would find the better part of

the "Swiss Watch Industry" takes Barbosa's approach to the pirate code when producing and

marketing their watches.

Remember Barbosa said "... As for the code they're really more suggestions ..."

I really wonder how unilaterally these laws are enforced in the first place by the Swiss

Government and the Swiss Watch Organizations.

In other words, does a known Swiss company have more latitude then say an American

company wanting to use the Swiss Made label just because as a Swiss company it is

understood that it understands the essence of being Swiss better then a non Swiss

company?

Even people with love hate relationships with Invicta will likely say no more Invictas and

then Eyal and his team will do it again and something so utterly amazing in terms of eye

candy for the wrist is concerned will be debuted and many of these same people will say

"I hate you Eyal" as they give ShopNBC or Amazon or some other vendor their credit card

number while ordering the new watch.

So in the end watchnut62, aside from the waiting for companies to voice their opinions, I

agree with you in principle.

If people like Invicta then keep posting in the Invicta Forum. If not, then why stick a

the Invicta forum.

There are plenty of other Forums right here at watchgeeks.net.

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People will always have opinions, good, bad..whatever. Can't make everyone happy all of the

time, including myself. I'm here for t

asked one question, even stupid questions..and not had 5

much says it all, I don't own stock in Invicta, Renato, Stuhrling...I buy what I like, return

what I don't. What I am most thankful is for the help and genoristy of most people I have

met here on Geeks...sounds like Thanksgiving! Enjoy people...life is too short, remember the

3 W's...wine/women/watches!

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If people like Invicta then keep posting in the Invicta Forum. If not, then why stick a

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Join Date: Feb 2010Location: Morgan Hill, CA

Posts: 156

Real Name: Christian


time, including myself. I'm here for the great info you guys always provide..I have never

asked one question, even stupid questions..and not had 5-10 Geeks help me out. That pretty


I am most thankful is for the help and genoristy of most people I have


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If people like Invicta then keep posting in the Invicta Forum. If not, then why stick around

Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Morgan Hill, CA

Posts: 156

Real Name: Christian


he great info you guys always provide..I have never

10 Geeks help me out. That pretty


I am most thankful is for the help and genoristy of most people I have


BadMax Senior Member

Veteran Geek

Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charlotte NC

Posts: 832

Real Name: Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrCrossedArrows

This is a watch forum. You should be able to voice your opinion about the products you

recieve. If people are upset about stuff I want to know about it because that will help with

my decision making. Sometimes the complaining gets out of hand, but if people don't like

the complaining just jump on another thread. Just like if you don't like what is on the tv,

change the channel. There are plenty of other threads here.

You sir have hit the bulls eye.

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