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OGC HydroDWG Orléans Workshop – 2015-09-20 European IT Water strategy discussion BRGM, CEH, BAFG

OGC HydroDWG Orléans Workshop – 2015-09-20 European IT Water strategy discussion BRGM, CEH, BAFG

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Page 1: OGC HydroDWG Orléans Workshop – 2015-09-20 European IT Water strategy discussion BRGM, CEH, BAFG

OGC HydroDWG Orléans Workshop – 2015-09-20

European IT Water strategy discussion

BRGM, CEH, BAFG

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EU layer

> Inspire : Hydrography, Environmental Monitoring Facilities, Geology-Hydrogeology … themes• We’ll see what comes up out of it.

• No coordination specific to the water domain the 3 themes above are in different maintenance cluster and I don’t speak about Biodiv related themes!

Surely end up with having mapping agencies providing the “River Network”, many agencies/labs providing the MonitoringFacilities (thus the observations), …

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EU layer

> Environmental mandatory reportings : WFD, Nitrates, … :• None of them require to report actual observations on the field

• For now, none is based on Inspire specs. Most of them are isolated in independent silos

• “pseudo-static”’ data transfert (reporting) as done by putting a reportingEnveloppe on reportNet

not webservice oriented (ex : OGC)

not really linked to Membser States (MS) national/regional information system

• Reported information to the EU level is not dynamically reusable by MemberStates (ex : OGC web services).

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EU layer

> WISE State Of the Environment (SoE) voluntary reporting : • Includes observations,

• Another silo from the ones mentioned above.

• Not based on Inspire specs.

• “pseudo-static”’ data transfert (reporting) as done by putting a reportingEnveloppe on reportNet

not webservice oriented (ex : OGC)

not really linked to Membser States (MS) national/regional information system

• Reported information to the EU level is not dynamically reusable by MemberStates (ex : OGC web services).

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National level

> Water Information systems• I don’t know one that really embraced the OGC approach :

correct me if I’m wrong

• Most of them re-invent their own wheel. Or invented it before some OGC standards but did not push it to the OGC process

Tiny interoperability

• And it seems hard to change things in each country (some may be running for decades).

• Q° : do they actually meet their public nationally ?

– Feedback from the French WIS users

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River basin level

> International Commissions for the protection of a given River • Ex : ICPR – Rhin, ICPDR – Danube, …

• Another system, another set of rules,

• Tiny interoperability with national water information systems

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The 2 € question

> What can we do to steer all this into a common IT direction so that our domain expert can really do their work ?

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Inspire-Hy Inspire-GE

Inspire-EF EU-WFD

EU-Nitrates

EU-Waste Water Treatment

National Water Information Systems

International Commissions

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And associated sub-questions

> What hinders success• Lack of standards, or dynamic toward more standards ?

Should we standardise the mediation ?

• Lack of « plug & play » tools implementing those standards. Either Server or Client Side.

Not enough involvment of software vendors/open source communities ?

• Lack of accessibility of those standards ? Should we lower the barrier &/or train people ?

• Lack of incentive/coordination at ministries levels ?

• A « my standard is better than yours » issue ?

• Others ?

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