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The FloridaThe FloridaThe FloridaThe Florida

Theme:

“REACH

OUT”

Motto

“Let all things be

done decently and

in order.”

I Corinthians 14:40

Volume 33, Number 4 November 2013

Presidents Message 1-2

Questions and Answers 4-5

Leadership Report 5

Delegate’s Reports 6-7-11

Education Report 8-9

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Presidents Message

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The NAP Convention in Portland, Oregon, saw 16 FSAP members participating in workshops with Eugene Bierbaum and Timothy Wynn presenting two of them. Finishing their terms on national committees were: Bylaws – Nancy H. Watkins, Webinar – Timothy Wynn, Youth – Patricia McDougle, and Membership & Registration Examiners Committee Chairman, Nancy Dauster. The delegates voted on bylaw amendments, spoke on the floor and helped elect Florida’s Ann Guiberson, NAP president for the 2013 – 2015 biennium. FSAP hosted a chocolate fondue reception in Ann’s honor on the top floor of the hotel while watching the sunlight fade and the moon rise on our new leader. FSAP will continue to support you, Ann. Credentialing of members was a hot topic and Eugene Bierbaum was appointed chair of the special committee on Credentialed Membership and will report in February and submit bylaw amendments as necessary. Surely everyone in attendance reached out to fellow NAP members at one time or another in meetings, workshop, banquets, travel time, or just in passing. A fellow NAP member drove me to . Vancouver, Washington, to find a geocache. A plaque stated that Ulysses S. Grant raised potatoes to lower the cost of the officer’s mess when he was stationed at Ft. Vancouver. Cost-reducing measures were noted at the recent FSAP Henry M. Robert Day meeting in Lake Mary,Fl. Gene Bierbaum’s hand-held microphone and sound system worked beautifully with the small gathering of 28 attendees.

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The Central Florida Unit provided snacks and Protocol Chair, Barbara Holland, brought the USA flag, and your president brought a lectern. Mind stretching, informative and interactive workshops were presented by Patricia McDougle, Tim and Todd Wynn, NAP President Ann Guiberson, District 3 Director Nancy Dauster and FURP President Barbara Proctor. FSAP members from 10 of the 12 units were represented and the reports of each unit sparked ideas that might be helpful to other units. New Jacksonville President, Deborah Laury, is chairman of the FSAP Presidents Committee and will be contacting presidents via email to help unite units by sharing ideas, concerns and encouraging one another. It saddened us to learn of the death of long-time member Phyllis Wood, PRP, Apollo XI Parliamentary Law Unit. A $25 memorial was sent to the NAP Educational Foundation in her name. “Welcome back, Miami Parliamentary Law Unit!” Having disbanded for lack of the minimum five NAP members, they have returned to a solid membership after Julie Palm monitored the NAP membership test for provisional members. By now all units should have reported their member’s information to Second Vice President, Nancy Watkins, nwatkins@robertwatkins.com, for publication in the new yearbook. Every time personal information changes, you need to notify Nancy or you may not receive the Florida Parliamentarian and e-blasts. FSAP 2014 meeting dates are: May 2 - 4, 2014, Sarasota and October 17 – 19, 2014, Hollywood. Mark your calendars to attend.

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Congratulations to new NAP members: James F. Colson – South Dade Parliamentary Law Unit ; Preston Marshall, Jr.,- Edith Owens, Sarah F. Russell all of Miami Parliamentary Law Unit; Felicia L Armstrong and Ann Lee of the Plantation Unit and renewing their membership in the Miami Parliamentary Law Unit Elizabeth Bain and Margaret Harris.

From our founding president Dr. Herberta Ann Leonardy to our current NAP president, Ann Guiberson, Florida continues to reach out with parliamentary leaders. Happy 60th Anniversary everyone. FSAP affiliated with the National Association of Parliamentarians on October 1, 1953.

2013 –2015 National Association of Parliamentarians President Ann Guiberson with her husband at the reception

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Disclaimer: The questions answered in this column are answers to questions on parliamentary procedure. If you are

a member of a Florida condominium association, homeowner’s association, etc. the answers might not be applicable

because of the Florida Statutes, or the bylaws of the home owners association. Florida statutes, bylaws of the asso-

ciation and in the case of governmental bodies have rules which have precedence over Robert’s Rules of Order

All page numbers are references to Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th edition unless otherwise noted. Send your questions to the Associate Editor: Patricia McDougle, PRP , Email: patmcdougle@att.net

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FLORIDA PARLIAMENTARIAN QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

FOR FOURTH QUARTER 2013

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Question 3.

The bylaws of our national organization state that a board member vacancy that occurs “midterm” may

be filled by presidential appointment with board approval. Three board positions were not filled by the

nomination and election process. As the new president, may I immediately appointment members to fill

the vacant board slots or must I wait until this term is half over?

Answer 3.

The Merriam Webster online dictionary definition of midterm that applies is this situation is “the ap-

proximate middle of a term of office.” It would seem unlikely that the intent of the bylaws would be to

leave positions vacant for half of a full term which could be six months or even a year or more depending

on the term of office which should also be specified in the bylaws.

Words have meaning, but in this context, “midterm” is open to interpretation. Robert says that “An am-

biguity must exist before there is any occasion for interpretation.” (p. 588, ll. 28-29) “The interpretation

should be in accordance with the intention of the society at the time the bylaw was adopted, as far as

this can be determined.” (p. 588, ll. 31-33)

In my opinion, you may go ahead and make the appointments as soon as feasible after taking office and

seek board approval. If challenged, ask the board to vote on the interpretation. A majority vote would

decide. As the new president, it might be wise to ask for board interpretation first. Either way, a bylaw

amendment needs to be proposed to correct the language.

Question 4.

Is it in order to “call the question” if a motion to limit debate on a pending motion to a specific number

of minutes has already been adopted?

Answer 4. Yes, it would be in order to “call the question” after adopting a motion to limit debate.

“Calling the question” is a non-standard form of the motion Previous Question and all the rules of that

motion apply and that includes the statement that Previous Question “. . . supersedes the effect of an

unexhausted order limiting or extending debate, with respect to the motions to which it is applied.” (p.

198, ll. 21-23)

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On the other hand, if moved very early in the debate, it could be considered dilatory and intended

to preclude an opposition from speaking in debate. “A motion is dilatory if it seeks to obstruct or

thwart the will of the assembly as clearly indicated by the existing parliamentary situation.”(p. 342,

ll. 12-14)

While the presiding officer himself cannot close debate (p. 44, ll. 6-9) he must exercise his best

judgment in weighing the stating and putting to a vote all legitimate motions against protecting an

assembly against motions that are dilatory (see duties of the presiding officer, #’s 4 and 5 (pp. 449-

450).

Leadership Conference 2013

By Mary Giddens

As one of 60 participants, I attended the NAP 2013 Leadership Conference before the start of this

year’s NAP Convention. For a day and a half we went to workshops and heard from NAP Officers

and Staff. Being new at this sort of thing, I expected the discussion around the theme, Reach for

the Stars with Excellence in Organizations, to be the usual top-down approach. I was wrong.

What dominated discussion was NAP’s eagerness to receive feedback on its roll-out of NAP’s

Strategic Plan and its determination to make NAP’s operations more responsive to members’

needs. In addition, the process of developing a strategic plan was often highlighted. The handout

material contained valuable resources which will help state associations examine their own needs

and develop their own road map to achieve their own definition of excellence.

I learned a lot during the time we spent with the new NAP Executive Director, Michael

Chamberlain. He gave us information about dues renewal, about changes in NAP’s website and

national representative program, about other critical functions carried out at NAP headquarters.

I especially appreciated his patience in asking questions, taking notes and being willing to have an

open dialogue to improve the executive office function for members. Jim Jones presented the

workshop I valued most on the subject of Ethical Decisions – and how unethical leadership

decisions and conduct can call into question an organization’s entire effort.

The Leadership Conference was a wonderful lesson on the administration of NAP as an

organization. In addition, it gave me a chance to become better acquainted with other FSAP

members attending and to meet NAP members from other states. I appreciate FSAP’s giving me

the opportunity to attend.

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DELEGATE’S REPORT ON THE 2013 NAP CONVENTION

By Dorothy Demarest, PRP

This delegate:

• attended the NAP convention from September 6 – 9, 2013 in Portland, OR.

• attended all business sessions and offered an amendment to bylaw amendment

number 15 to remove the ambiguity of the word “first”: AMENDMENT #15: PRORATED FIRST YEAR DUES Article III. Members. Section 3. Dues. A. Annual Dues. Amend by adding “Dues for new members shall be prorated monthly for the first remaining calendar year of their initial membership and shall be based on the date of application for membership.” Assembly Action: There was a two-thirds vote in the affirmative, and Amendment #15 was adopted as amended. (252 affirmative – 2 negative votes)

• attended 2 workshops: “Working with Government Boards – What’s the Differ-

ence?” and the educational requirement session necessary to retain instruc-

tor status for the PQC and PRC, where she offered testimony based on her

experience as a past professional development committee chairman.

• was proud to attend the Installation Banquet at Florida’s reserved table to

honor the newly elected NAP president, Ann Guiberson of FL.

• served as parliamentarian at the FSAP board meeting held during the

convention.

• was appointed to and served on the convention minutes approval committee

requiring review and recommendations to the 33 page document. Approval has

just been completed.

"Before you can learn a new way of doing things, you have to unlearn the old way. So beginnings depend on endings."

-- Rick Maurer

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REPORT OF FSAP NAP 2013 CONVENTION DELEGATE

By Barbara Proctor, PRP -

Now is a good time to mark your calendar and to make plans to attend the NAP Training Conference

in Oklahoma City August 8-10, 2014 … and the NAP Convention in Washington D.C. September 4-7,

2015.

Come early and attend the Leadership Conference … to network with other leaders, receive leadership

training, and to get to know NAP board members. The conference started with an open dialogue by

the 65 attendees with NAP’s new executive director, Michael Chamberlain, who took lots of notes

concerning how NAP can improve its customer service to members … and we already have re-

sults. How many of you have visited the newly designed NAP web page?

After we reviewed NAP’s Strategic Plan we broke into groups to plan how to facilitate the plan at the

local level. It is interesting to note that FSAP has already reached out to develop public awareness,

membership retention, and education. We learned that parliamentarians can be fiercely competitive

and readily adapt to using power point presentations to demonstrate their desire to win the prize for

the best plan – right now I can’t remember what the prize was, but there were several excellent pres-

entations.

We spent two full days planning, meeting, listening and discussing leadership skills, recruiting talent,

fund raising, membership retention, integrity, and the recipe for excellence. NAP asked us to help

keep their database current by updating information about association and unit websites, officers, and

members online for better communication internally and to the public.

The convention business is always interesting watching fellow parliamentarians in action, giving

cause for the presiding officer to consult with NAP’s parliamentarian – we considered all 31 proposed

bylaw amendments and elections with the help of electronic keypads purchased by NAP. There

was a lot of discussion concerning recertification for RP’s and PRP’s throughout the convention. Good

news is first year dues for new members will be prorated.

My favorite workshop was “Marketing NAP” led by a marketing professional. In different group

sessions we broke down the lofty goals of marketing and education into meaningful actions that can

be taken by individuals, leaders, and organizations to make NAP membership meaningful and to

create public credibility. Relationships through personal communication, phone calls, and conversa-

tions are the key to success. This discussion started with the question, “What song would you like

to be played every time you entered a room?”

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REPORT OF FSAP EDUCATION CHAIRMAN

October 2013

The past few months have been busy, challenging, and interesting!

In accordance with the directives from the Board of Directors, education programs have been

selected and designed to Reach Out to members (at all levels) and to the local communities.

The vision … is for FSAP to have the reputation of providing excellent education programs people

are willing to travel to attend.

The goal … is to increase attendance at FSAP meetings and workshops to create a network of

parliamentarians around the state qualified to serve their local communities.

The plan ……... to select topics in advance with workshops taught by the most qualified

parliamentarians available. Morning sessions will be devoted to FSAP members to motivate them

and to help them reach out to achieve their goals. There will be two afternoon sessions, one for

the public and one for advanced training.

In October 2013 we start at the top with NAP District III Director, Nancy Dauster, PRP, who will be

encouraging and motivating members to reach out to their communities to encourage others to

join local units or become MAL members to learn more about parliamentary procedure, to take the

NAP exam, to take the RP exam, and/or to become a PRP. After everyone is thinking about their

goals and their future, Ann Guiberson, PRP, NAP President, will inform us as to what resources NAP

has to offer to help us achieve these goals. During the afternoon we have Tim Wynn, PRP, and

Todd Wynn leading our public workshop utilizing the NAP yellow sheet, and Patricia McDougle,

PRP, presenting the advanced workshop which provides RP’s and PRP’s with the planning tools and

scripts for the first and second organizational meeting for any organization. Following this

weekend, members should have sufficient encouragement to go out and gather new members to

help them become better leaders in their own organizations … maybe we’ll have a new unit

formed during this administration.

May 2014 features “bottom up” education programs at the membership level to give us a different

perspective. We seem to always be telling people what they need to know rather than asking what

they want to know, and answering their questions. It is the same information given in a different

format. The plan is to have a panel of RP’s and PRP’s to field questions from the audience – to

understand how they see things from their perspective, to give an opportunity to provisional and

primary members and opportunity to lead the discussion, and have questions answered from

their perspective. We will have a bank of questions to give to participants as a safety net in case

no one can think of any questions.

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October 2014 education programs will focus on Condos and HOA’s – by then we should have

several programs approved for CAM’s to attend and receive their CEU’s. These workshops will

assist FSAP members as well to understand the differences to be prepared to serve these special-

ized communities.

May 2015 we will focus on conventions, at the individual level, delegate level and what RP’s and

PRP’s need to serve as a convention parliamentarian.

As you can see, the next 2 years are challenging and we need everyone’s support to be

successful. Unfortunately I am still too young to retire and have no pension plan. Fortunately I

have a job that has some flexibility although it is very demanding. Please email me

(askaprp@yahoo.com) or call me (561-756-0570) to join the FSAP Education Committee or with

any comments, suggestions, recommendations, etc. The next step is for the FSAP Board, if you

have not already, is to select the NAP board member(s) you want to invite to our upcoming

meeting(s).

Be sure to, on a personal level, plan to participate and encourage other FSAP member to join

us. They don’t want to miss out on any opportunity to become a better leader, a better member,

a better person.

A view of Portland, Oregon from the 30th floor of a downtown bank building

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National President

Ann Guiberson’s

program from the installation

banquet

2013--2015

THEME FOR

NAP

“Create the Future”

NAP President

Ann Guiberson

with

Connie Deford,

past national NAP

President

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NAP 39th Biennial Convention Delegate Report

By Karen Price

Thank you FSAP members for electing me as a delegate for the NAP 39th Biennium Convention It

is always a rewarding and learning experience to attend the national convention.

As your delegate I attended six workshops: Promoting Awareness-NAP Excellence, Starring Role

of Governing Documents ; Working with Government Boards; Non-Profit Governance; Care &

Feeding of a Parliamentary Unit; and Leadership in the 21st Century-Embracing Technology.

I will submit in the future issues some recap of these workshops.

I also attended all the business sessions of the convention and this is where I gained a valuable

experience and knowledge.

The convention body adopted the standing rules, which included some bylaw amendments to be

on the consent calendar and some bylaws were to be voted on in gross. I was concerned with a

couple of bylaw amendments and wanted them sent to committee. I felt compelled to make a

motion! So I obtained a motion form, wrote my motion to have the bylaw amendment sent to a

committee and submitted the motion form to the proper person.

When the bylaw amendments that I was concerned with were read I went to the microphone to

make my motion. After reading my motion President Henderson addressed me and stated my

motion was out of order. Did I wish to restate my motion? I was now trying to determine what

it was that I had done incorrect. Can you guess why my motion was out of order?

Learning time!!! I forgot to motion to suspend the rules first. This member will always recall this

situation and hopefully will not make this mistake again.

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MEMBERS AND HAPPENINGS

Change of Address: Congratulations to our newest Professional Registered Parliamentarian:

Congratulations to our newest Registered Parliamentarian:

Welcome to our newest Provisional Members:

Welcome to our newest NAP Members: See page 3 Welcome to Student Members:

Welcome MAL Members:

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