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and rotated the cylinder into firing position.

Most were made in .44 caliber. Some .60 caliber shotguns were produced also.There were a number of different types of revolving rifles produced around this time. The biggest reason they

did not last was ... the Volcanic rifle and it's offspring! Attached Thumbnails

Savage Revolving Rifle Savage Revolving Rifle

41 Cal

Serial #: 1 Manufacturer: SavageModel: Revolving Type: Rifle

Barrel Length: 24 inch part octagon

Finish: blue Stock: walnutDescription: These rifles are known by many names. They were made under the 1 June, 1852 patent of Henry S.

North and Chauncy D. Skinner, so they are sometimes called "North & Skinner". They were made by the firm

of North & Savage (same North with Edward S. Savage) and are sometimes called by that name. The latter firm

became Savage Revolving Firearms Co. so they are most often simply called "Savage". The action of theseearly revolving rifles is more complicated than the later revolvers. There is a wedge behind the cylinder. When

the lever below the cylinder is pulled down, it also pulls the wedge down and allows the spring around the

cylinder pin to push the cylinder away from the barrel, disengaging the protruding mouth of the chambers from

the barrel. When it is loose, a tooth on the wedge engages the track on the back of the cylinder causing it to turnto the next chamber. A link fastened to the lever behind the wedge cocks the hammer. When the lever is

returned, the wedge forces it tight against the rear of the barrel. There are no external marks visible except the

number "1" stamped on top of the receiver at the barrel junction. Vestiges of the address are barely visible infront of the rear sight. An assembly number "240" appears on the cylinder, cylinder pin, the bottom of the barrel

under the cylinder pin, wedge, lever, buttplate, hammer, and right side plate internally. It also appears on the

rear sight leaf but the 4 is stamped upside down. The number 114 appears on the right side of the lever andcocking link,195 on the left side plate and 69 on the trigger. The trigger and hammer both have two pivot holes

so they can be assembled on another frame or frames. The different assembly numbers indicate a cleanup of

factory parts or a period factory repair. The cylinder pin wedge, which goes into the slot to the rear of the recoil

shield, is missing. The left wood to side plate screw, trigger spring, and trigger spring screw are also missing.

The round brass patch box is mounted on the left side of the butt stock instead of the right where it is normallyfound. The buttplate is iron. Only a few hundred of these were made. Attached Thumbnails

Roper Repeating Rifle Co Nouvelle page 0

http://www.roperld.com/ropersylvester.htmSylvester Ropers Steam Automobile, 1860s

Sylvester Roper was an early automobile designer in America. His cars were steam powered, and he made a

steam motorcycle which had to be the first motorcycle ever made, and a steam powered buggy, or automobile as

they were called later.

Roper was a prolific inventor, and patented many versions of his vehicles, as well as the first repeating cartridgeshotgun.

On 10 April 1866, Sylvester Roper of Roxbury, Mass patented a shotgun (53881) with a bolt mechanism and arevolving cylinder magazine. Cocking the hammer withdrew the breech bolt, extracting a spent cartridge form

the barrel as it did so. When the hammer had been retracted, a magazine spring revolved a new cartridge into

line with the chamber, pulling the trigger released the bolt to fly forward and fire the chambered round in a'slam bang' motion.

To reduce the shock, the hammer could be lowered onto the chamber and then pulled back to an intermediate

position from which the cap on the cartridge-base nipple could be fired without partially extracting the case.Made originally in 16 and (later) in 12 bore by the Roper Repeating Rifle Company of Amherst Mass, the

shotgun was a minor success. Most examples had a detachable choke patented in July 1868 (79861).The Roper


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Sporting Arms Company, formed in Hartford in March 1869, was effectively a partnership between Christopher

Spencer and Charles Billings. Production of .40 rifles and 12 bore shotguns continued into the early 1870s butnever in sufficient quantity to make any real impact. Attached Thumbnails

Warren & George Evans Nouvelle page 0

The shown model is New Model, the last model, manufactured in the years 1880.

Evans leave ordinary by their splendid completion, their hammer placed under the frame, but especially by theirmagazine, container either 28, or 34 cartridges with central percussion according to whether it is about gauge

.30 Evans shorts, .30 Winchester Long or .44-40 Winchester. This tubular magazine, placed in the action,

comprises a Archimedes' screw actuated by the trigger guard/lever of trigger guard. AttachedThumbnails

If only he could have sold them Joe Vincent MeigsThis is an incredible rare MEIGS .50 calibre magazine rifle cartridge with a 50 round magazine.

Only three ever produced and this is serial 2.

One was kept by the descendants of the inventor and is now in a major collection in the US. The second is

located at the Cody museum in the US. Donated by the army who received one from Meigs to be test fired.This unique prototype 50-shot breech-loading rifle, only three in existence, was invented by Joe vincent

Meigs(1840-1907) under U.S. patent N 54934, issued may 22, 1866.

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20ame...meigs%20gb.htm Attached Thumbnails

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on:February 23, 2010, 04:29:30 AM

I saw a Cowboy action event on the TV and they were shootin Colt autos. Have they been drinkin cactus juice?

By what stretch is that a cowboy gun? I admit I am just a spectator. Early Lugers were in use then, so were

machine guns. New Service Colts and S&W model 10s were very popular double actions. Havin fun is the object

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What you probably saw was a "Wild Bunch" side match. Occassionally a local club will put one of these on. It is

not part of the main match and is not scored as such.

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What a fun event!

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Reply #3 on:March 01, 2010, 10:43:33 AM

Actually Wild Bunch is one of the more popular SASS sanctioned activities. Here is a link to SASS' Wild Bunch

web page.http://www.sassnet.com/wildbunch/ Here is a link to the rules.http://www.sassnet.com/WB-Main-

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Reply #4 on:May 08, 2011, 09:40:02 AM

The OP brings up an interesting idea. There were many guns in use (some more commonly used than others)

during the 19th century. Particularly toward the end. Lugers, Borchardt (sp?) and Broomhandles would all fall

outside the scope of what cowboy action shooting is. They all, none the less, have a place in history that shouldbe preserved. Given that the SASS is bearing the flag better than anybody as far as keeping the '..thrilling days

of yester-year' alive, they would be a likely place to see some sort of antique shooting sport that encompases

those sorts of guns. For all I know, there may be Boer War type events in South Africa, but if so I've never

heard of it. Reenactments, probaly. Competative events with period guns, that I don't know.

The balistics of a 30 Mauser C96 pistol and the horrable ergonomics would make it completely incompatable

with a SASS 3 gun event, but I for one would love to see some sort of event where those and other oddities

could be in action. I doubt that even if such a sport emerged that it would gain the popularity of the Old West

events. That period and the popular notions of it are so carved into the public perception from generations of

film and TV. We probably wouldn't see dozens of companies offering clones of the Broomhandle or Borchardt

like we see the single action Colt clones, but it may be of interest to enough people to keep it alive as a game.

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Reply #5 on:May 08, 2011, 12:24:52 PM

The SASS "Wild Bunch" matches are limited to .45 ACP 1911 type pistols, .40 cal or larger pistol caliber rifles

and 1897 shotguns. Some local clubs allow more varied firearms. I shot one using my C-96 as both my pistol

and by attaching the stock my rifle. Another CAS shooting organization, NCOWS, allows the use of pre-1900

double action revolvers.

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Reply #6 on:May 08, 2011, 04:30:55 PM

Cool. How did you do?

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Reply #7 on:May 11, 2011, 10:48:54 AM

"About usual", when my wife asks how I did, and I reply that way, she responds "that bad huh".

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Reply #8 on:May 17, 2011, 12:11:11 AM

Quote from: jlwilliams on May 08, 2011, 09:40:02 AM

The OP brings up an interesting idea. There were many guns in use (some more commonly used than

others) during the 19th century. Particularly toward the end. Lugers, Borchardt (sp?) and Broomhandles

would all fall outside the scope of what cowboy action shooting is. They all, none the less, have a place in

history that should be preserved. Given that the SASS is bearing the flag better than anybody as far as

keeping the '..thrilling days of yester-year' alive, they would be a likely place to see some sort of antique

shooting sport that encompases those sorts of guns. For all I know, there may be Boer War type events

in South Africa, but if so I've never heard of it. Reenactments, probaly. Competative events with period

guns, that I don't know.

How about GAF, The Grand Army of the Frontier;

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Reply #9 on:May 17, 2011, 07:44:36 AM

That's pretty cool.

I think that as time goes on, we will see something that parallels what happened in the AMCA (Antique

Motorcycle Club of America) The AMCA was created in the '50s and they defined 'antiques' as bein (I think) 30

or 35 years old. As years go by more and more stuff starts to meet that definition. I remember about ten

years back there was rumbling that the Japanese bikes were starting to come of age and that would ruin the

club meets. We'd be over run with Hondas. It didn't really turn out like that from what I've seen. Sure, there
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are some Honda Dreams putting around the field at meets, but the Harleys, Indians, Excellsiors, Popes and all

the other really old stuff is still what the bulk of the interest is among antique bike enthusiasts. I suspect we

will see more of this sort of "non cowboy" events taking place along side the CAS shooting, but it will never

eclipse the cowboy events. That is just so burned into our minds that no Martini and Broomhandle shoots will

replce it, but those guns have their place in the sun too. Semi autos are over a hundred years old now, we are

fast aproaching the centenial of the War to End All Wars. There may be a "Seargend York" course popping up

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Reply #10 on:May 17, 2011, 03:43:26 PM

Trench warfare action shooting? Bring your water-cooled machine guns and mustard gas.

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Reply #11 on:December 16, 2012, 02:14:18 PM

Im surprised nobody has mentioned watching the movie 'The Wild Bunch', (1969 IIRC) where Colt's 1911s and

Springfield '03s were used; it certainly falls within the scope of the 'Wild West', as does the Pancho Villa/Mex

revolution. It wasnt all pre 1900, just read Sixguns by Elmer Keith or stuff on the Texas Rangers. Infamous Tom

Horn's escape attempt in Aug. 1903 failed because he reportedly didnt know how to release the safety on the

autoloader pistol he had taken.

Then there are the Savage '99s, but thats another discussion.........

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6 shot Revolving Cap and BallFULL Automatic Rifle

Mershon and Hollingsworth revolving cylinder automatic rifle. Patented in 1855. A spring mechanisim

automatically fired and rotated the cylinder. The trigger could be locked in back position for full automatic fire.

To wind up the spring, a ratchet lever is located just behind the receiver. Six shot percussion .40 caliber.

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The rest these firearms are manuals of some sort or nother,The Roper Shotguns were neat, the first Open

Bolt shotgun of the 1800's!!

North & Savage, Middletown, Connecticut,

H. S. North & Edward Savage where helped by Chauncey D. Skinner to create their revolving rifle.

6 shot percussion rifle, marked NORTH & SAVAGE, MIDDLETOWN, CONN. PTTNTED JUNE 1, 1852, CAST STEEL

Rifle similar to the "Figure 8" pistol, marked E. SAVAGE, MIDDLETOWN, CT H.S. NORTH PATENTED, JUNE 17th,

1856. The Edward Brown collection has one specimen. Attached Thumbnails

North & Skinner Revolving Arms Co. North & Skinner, Middletown, Connecticut.

Produced from 1856 to 1859, this revolving rifle looked much like the other revolving rifles that were being tried. One difference

however was that it was not a "single-action" type where you cocked the hammer to rotate the cylinder.

The North & Skinner was a levergun. Shoving the combination lever & triggerguard down cocked the hammer and rotated the

cylinder into firing position.

Most were made in .44 caliber. Some .60 caliber shotguns were produced also.

There were a number of different types of revolving rifles produced around this time. The biggest reason they did not last was ...

the Volcanic rifle and it's offspring! Attached Thumbnails
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Savage Revolving Rifle Savage Revolving Rifle

41 Cal

Serial #: 1 Manufacturer: Savage

Model: Revolving Type: Rifle

Barrel Length: 24 inch part octagon

Finish: blue Stock: walnut

Description: These rifles are known by many names. They were made under the 1 June, 1852 patent of Henry

S. North and Chauncy D. Skinner, so they are sometimes called "North & Skinner". They were made by the firm

of North & Savage (same North with Edward S. Savage) and are sometimes called by that name. The latter firm

became Savage Revolving Firearms Co. so they are most often simply called "Savage". The action of these early

revolving rifles is more complicated than the later revolvers. There is a wedge behind the cylinder. When the

lever below the cylinder is pulled down, it also pulls the wedge down and allows the spring around the cylinder

pin to push the cylinder away from the barrel, disengaging the protruding mouth of the chambers from the

barrel. When it is loose, a tooth on the wedge engages the track on the back of the cylinder causing it to turn to

the next chamber. A link fastened to the lever behind the wedge cocks the hammer. When the lever is returned,

the wedge forces it tight against the rear of the barrel. There are no external marks visible except the number

"1" stamped on top of the receiver at the barrel junction. Vestiges of the address are barely visible in front of

the rear sight. An assembly number "240" appears on the cylinder, cylinder pin, the bottom of the barrel under

the cylinder pin, wedge, lever, buttplate, hammer, and right side plate internally. It also appears on the rear

sight leaf but the 4 is stamped upside down. The number 114 appears on the right side of the lever and cocking

link,195 on the left side plate and 69 on the trigger. The trigger and hammer both have two pivot holes so they

can be assembled on another frame or frames. The different assembly numbers indicate a cleanup of factory

parts or a period factory repair. The cylinder pin wedge, which goes into the slot to the rear of the recoil shield,

is missing. The left wood to side plate screw, trigger spring, and trigger spring screw are also missing. The

round brass patch box is mounted on the left side of the butt stock instead of the right where it is normally

found. The buttplate is iron. Only a few hundred of these were made. Attached Thumbnails

Roper Repeating Rifle Co Nouvelle page 0

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Sylvester Ropers Steam Automobile, 1860s
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Sylvester Roper was an early automobile designer in America. His cars were steam powered, and he made a

steam motorcycle which had to be the first motorcycle ever made, and a steam powered buggy, or automobile

as they were called later.

Roper was a prolific inventor, and patented many versions of his vehicles, as well as the first repeating cartridge

shotgun.

On 10 April 1866, Sylvester Roper of Roxbury, Mass patented a shotgun (53881) with a bolt mechanism and a

revolving cylinder magazine. Cocking the hammer withdrew the breech bolt, extracting a spent cartridge formthe barrel as it did so. When the hammer had been retracted, a magazine spring revolved a new cartridge into

line with the chamber, pulling the trigger released the bolt to fly forward and fire the chambered round in a

'slam bang' motion.

To reduce the shock, the hammer could be lowered onto the chamber and then pulled back to an intermediate

position from which the cap on the cartridge-base nipple could be fired without partially extracting the case.

Made originally in 16 and (later) in 12 bore by the Roper Repeating Rifle Company of Amherst Mass, the

shotgun was a minor success. Most examples had a detachable choke patented in July 1868 (79861).The Roper

Sporting Arms Company, formed in Hartford in March 1869, was effectively a partnership between Christopher

Spencer and Charles Billings. Production of .40 rifles and 12 bore shotguns continued into the early 1870s but

never in sufficient quantity to make any real impact. Attached Thumbnails

Warren & George Evans Nouvelle page 0

The shown model is New Model, the last model, manufactured in the years 1880.

Evans leave ordinary by their splendid completion, their hammer placed under the frame, but especially by their

magazine, container either 28, or 34 cartridges with central percussion according to whether it is about gauge

.30 Evans shorts, .30 Winchester Long or .44-40 Winchester. This tubular magazine, placed in the action,

comprises a Archimedes' screw actuated by the trigger guard/lever of trigger guard.

Attached Thumbnails

If only he could have sold them Joe Vincent Meigs

This is an incredible rare MEIGS .50 calibre magazine rifle cartridge with a 50 round magazine.

Only three ever produced and this is serial 2.

One was kept by the descendants of the inventor and is now in a major collection in the US. The second is

located at the Cody museum in the US. Donated by the army who received one from Meigs to be test fired.
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This unique prototype 50-shot breech-loading rifle, only three in existence, was invented by Joe vincent

Meigs(1840-1907) under U.S. patent N 54934, issued may 22, 1866.

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