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Meaning clear lightStarted by Tibetan_Ice, Jul 31 2012 09:26 PM

Tibetan_Ice

Hi,

I was reading Franklin Merrell-Wolff's book called "Experience and Philosophy".

I came to a part where he was discussing the disavantages of intellectual evolution, the part where he says this:

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Hence, when a man learns of a Transcendental Consciousness and he seeks to Realize This, his first effort, rather naturally, is in

the direction of a more complex ideology. The greater the intellectual evolution of an individual, the more likely is this to be the

case. And this explains why it is so often just the able men who have most difficulty in effecting the Transition. Now, the effective

focusing of consciousness is precisely in the diametrically opposite direction. It is toward the subjective movement in the

subject-object manifold, and this possesses the simplicity of a point. It is easily overlooked just because of its extreme simplicity.

Yet it remains true that if the able man can succeed in finding this, he can reap a richer harvest, both for himself, individually,

and for others, than is true in the case of those of inferior ability.

Somehow, those words struck home. I lifted my head for a second, and focused on the 'extreme simplicity' of

perception, the area without conceptual thought. I focused my eyes straight ahead and tried to sense the

extremely simple in my awareness, in the space directly before my sight. Suddenly, a blob of what I would

describe as clear waterous vapour appeared in my visual field. It was luminous, clear, like water and filled with

love, joy, bliss and peace. It was about 3 feet wide, elongated horizontally and it felt like there was a divine

presence in it, something alive. The phenomenon lasted about 20 seconds.. I resumed my reading, but gradually

put the book down and started to ponder what had just happened.

The blob of clear water that had presented itself to me, full of bliss, love, joy and peace was not a vision, nor was it

an imagination. I focused on what I had done to cause this appearance. What I had done is become very simple in

my sight and mind. Just easily looking through the eyes, but before the eyes see anything or the mind has time to

grasp at it. And sure enough it appeared again, and then again.

For the evening's meditation I decided to re-enact the same state of simple mind. It was very easy to do and the

clear water of bliss, joy, love and peace appeared to me once again. It had a glorious presence. The effect that it

produced on the body was like a shower of goose bumps, tingles and extremely blissful energy flows. I thought I

had finally found God. I thought, it is true. God is right before your eyes, all of the time, every place, everywhere.

I was enjoying myself immensely. My mind kept trying to produce contrary thoughts and speculative

conceptualizations but I told it to stop, to go away. I just wanted to bathe in the presence.

Then, this voice came out of my head and it asked "May I drink from the River of Life?". The clear water

responded and said "Yes". After that, the clear water merged with my body and I felt currents of energy going up

and down my spine, from the coccyx to the top of the head. Both ways, up and down. It was so blissful I could

harldy contain myself. My whole body was a field of divine love and nourishment. This effect lasted for a few

minutes after which time I was so overjoyed and greatful. My mind kept resonating "My search is over. I've finally

found it. I've found God. He was always there!"

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When the sensations of the energy coursing up and down my spine finally ceased, I noticed a very peculiar

sensation in the center of the chest around the heart chakra. It was cool! It felt like I had a cool peaceful ball of

liquid ice about 4 inches in diameter in the center of my chest. Cool, refreshing, scintilating. I've never felt that

before.

What I am curious about is this. Is this blob of clear waterous vapour, filled with love, bliss, joy and peace called

the "meaning clear light" in Buddism? Any Buddhist experts with a similar experience out there?

TI

idiot_stimpy

'Tibetan_Ice', on 31 Jul 2012 - 23:26, said:

I lifted my head for a second, and focused on the 'extreme simplicity' of perception, the area without conceptual thought.

Keep going along these lines.

Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

Birch

Mezotes!


Tibetan_Ice

Hi, Since that episode, I have had a few more experiences. I have tried to recreate the 'clear light' experience buthave not been successful.

However, because of learning that eyes-open meditation is a way to connect the inner consciousness with theouter, I was focusing on the third eye, with eyes partially closed, while walking around during a break at work oneday. The next day, in the morning while I was taking a shower, I bent over to soap my left foot and all of a suddenevery thing became crystal clear. My visual field was luminescent. Every detail in my visual field sparkled andshone. I was amazed. I also noticed that there was not a single thought in my head. I also noticed that the wholevisual field felt like 'me', like I had superimposed the sense of me-ness over the scene of the leg, the bathtub andwalls etc..

I stood up straight and the phenomenon went away. I thought, "Wow"! Then I proceeded to bend over in order tosoap down my left foot again. The same state happened again! If I had to say what caused it, I would say that itwas almost like a clear waterous awareness came out from the front of my face and made the scene crystal clear,sparkly and dead silent. Haven't been able to recreate that but I take it as a good sign, similar to satori momentsI've had before.

I've also been listening to many podcasts by B. Alan Wallace and re-reading his books. It has been very helpful.A while ago I clued into 'vividness'. Then, after listening to the Spring 2010 podcasts of Alan Wallace's retreats Ifinally understood that consciousness is luminous. Yesterday, I was sitting in my car by the river. I had justfinished listening to a most excellent podcast by Alan Wallace about rigpa. I had done the meditation at the startof the podcast and came upon the realization that the luminosity of the mind is true. It shines. It radiates. As I satthere a strange phenomenon occured. The inside of my head started to brighten up to the point where I could seethoughts as bright as if I were looking through normal vision. What a rush! The thoughts that I saw were veryclear, bright and distinct, like streams of video floating by. Then, struck down by the amazement and excitement,the effect went away.

Then, today, I listened to a podcast from Alan Wallace about "Integrated Vipashyana", and in it he mentions thatthe luminosity of the mind can become so bright that it appears with the same clarity and vividness as normalreality! Wow! I think I'm on the right track.

Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:32 PM


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Here is the podcast page for the "Integrated Vipashyana" : http://podcasts.sbin...ring2011/?p=206

(http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/spring2011/?p=206)

You know, I can't say enough about Alan Wallace. He is certainly extremely intelligent, has a vocabulary thatblows me away and is very clear in his concepts and instructions. His fluency in Tibetan and English is a greatboon to anyone whom wishes to get very clear instruction and understanding of the Buddhist teachings.

This talk about rigpa is so dense and enlightening that I am very grateful to have discovered it. The first 25minutes of this podcast is a meditation. The discussion follows after that..http://podcasts.sbin...ring2011/?p=204 (http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/spring2011/?p=204)

This is the main page for the podcasts. I have downloaded all retreats from 2012 to 2010 on to my iphone andipod and have been listening to them for weeks now.http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/ (http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/)

This is a good talk about some of the practices, like flicking thoughts away, or letting them dissolve. Awareness ofawareness..http://podcasts.sbin...of-awareness-4/ (http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/spring2012/2012/05/87-awareness-

of-awareness-4/)

I own 5 or 6 of Alan Wallace's books. The one I am rereading now is called "Stilling the Mind -Shamtha Teachingsfrom Dudjom Lingpa's Vajra Essence. This is an excellent book. Can't say enough about it! Close to the end ofthe book, Alan explains the Dzogchen practice of "resting the mind in the natural state, without distraction, withoutgrasping. He explains about rigpa vs the substrate conscoiusness, how the mind arises and dissolves back intothe substrate. How, as the mind calms the substrate consciousness will release experiences and mental states.He even has a section called "Signs of Progress" wherein he list the various experiences that a practitioner mayencounter. Most of them sound like schizophrenic/psychotic episodes...!

Here is the first sign of progress:

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- the impression that all your thoughts are wreaking havoc in your body, speech, and mind, like bouldersrolling down a steep mountain, crushing and destroying everything it their path.

His book called "The Four Immeasurables" has an excellent step-by-step instruction on achieving Shamatha. Hisbook called "Mind in The Balance" is also an excellent book. It contains exercises to help the mind rest in thenatural state. In one exercise, you move your attention/awareness around, around the body, around the locationyou are sitting in.I've incorporated this practice into my regular meditation sessions. I've been meditating 2 to 3 hours per day for awhile now.

First I visualize that I can see right through my eyes and right through walls and solid objects. Then I move thatvisual field around the body, pretending I can see the back alley, the street outside, the houses, the pavement etc.I go around from left, around my back and then to the right. Then I reverse the rotation. Then I move my attentionto the eastern horizon and expand it so my attention is in space. Then I move it upwards and around, to the top(seeing all the stars and universes), and then around the earth and back. Then I move my attention in closecircles around the body, like a fly that is buzzing around. By the time I have finished moving my attention aroundlike that, not only is the mind and body so calm and peaceful, but the state is highly ecstatic and blissful too. ThenI go on to Anapanasati practice..

What I have discovered is that it is highly pleasurable to move the attention around the body, on the tips of thechakras, sort of like a very quick MC Orbit, but staying about 7 inches outside of the body and without thebreathing part.

Also, just a point if you want to try the "moving of attention around" practice, you have to keep moving the


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attention quick enough so that the mind doesn't have time to grasp anything. If you sit too long in one spot, theconceptual mind kicks in and interferes. If you move onto a different location or point of attention every second,that seems to be fast enough to prevent my mind from conceptualizing. Or, just keep moving your attention,doesn't matter how quickly, just don't stop.

I am very grateful for Alan Wallace's books and podcasts.Perhaps you may find some use too.

Anamatva, (I know you are going to read this) , have you ever heard of Alan Wallace? Comments? Have youexperienced the luminosity of the mind?

TI

Oh WOW! They have just released the Fall 2012 podcasts from the retreat!http://podcasts.sbin...e.com/fall2012/ (http://podcasts.sbinstitute.com/fall2012/)

Oh WOW! One of the questions in the 08 podcast is:"Q2. Is the experience of prana (lelung) upon achieving shamatha the same as kundalini?"Haven't listened to it yet, just finishing downloading now..

Edited by Tibetan_Ice, 29 August 2012 - 08:08 PM.

xabir2005

'Tibetan_Ice', on 29 Aug 2012 - 21:32, said:

Hi, Since that episode, I have had a few more experiences. I have tried to recreate the 'clear light' experience buthave not been successful.

However, because of learning that eyes-open meditation is a way to connect the inner consciousness with theouter, I was focusing on the third eye, with eyes partially closed, while walking around during a break at workone day. The next day, in the morning while I was taking a shower, I bent over to soap my left foot and all of asudden every thing became crystal clear. My visual field was luminescent. Every detail in my visual fieldsparkled and shone. I was amazed. I also noticed that there was not a single thought in my head. I alsonoticed that the whole visual field felt like 'me', like I had superimposed the sense of me-ness over the sceneof the leg, the bathtub and walls etc..

I stood up straight and the phenomenon went away. I thought, "Wow"! Then I proceeded to bend over in orderto soap down my left foot again. The same state happened again! If I had to say what caused it, I would saythat it was almost like a clear waterous awareness came out from the front of my face and made the scenecrystal clear, sparkly and dead silent. Haven't been able to recreate that but I take it as a good sign, similar tosatori moments I've had before.

Sounds like the intensity of luminosity being experienced. This can be experienced dualistically or

non-dualistically however. Do you feel like the separate observer has dissolved and fused into everything or is

there still a sense of separation?*

*(Something I wrote back in 01 Dec 2009, it is the experience of the intensity of luminosity but still dualistic):

I wrote: I think 'What is it' is a powerful koan and pointer. Whatever you say isn't It (it's your interpretation of

It, which thus is not It), you can only 'know' it by becoming ONE with it. Actually there is not even a becoming

one, there is only actually IT, our mind merely projects separation.

When we experience Awareness directly without using our thoughts, everything is experienced as having a

magical, alive, shimmery, fresh, amazing and blissful quality to it. Life is not not the 'boring and ordinary' as

the mind interpretes it, even the most ordinary things (such as eating, walking, etc) just feels awesome. You will

be naturally attracted, pulled towards the pristine awareness than to stressful thoughts. The ego will melt in the

wonder and majesty of awareness. Awareness will literally blow your mind away. One moment I was just

dreaming stressful thoughts, the other moment I 'woke up' and was totally drawn to Awareness itself... there



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was no compulsion for me to go back to the dream. It's just such a huge contrast. Sometimes it's so blissful that

people around me wonder why I'm smiling. But surely I'm not mad... it's mad to not notice Life... hahaha

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I was reading this interview by Eckhart Tolle just now and thought to myself "Oh my god, that's exactly the same

order as I have experienced it". First I was lost in suffering thoughts, then I had a compulsion to transcend the

thoughts as I can't stand them and what I did is precisely the same: asking Who am I? Then everything was

dropped off and what remained was just this I AM, this beingness that doesn't have a form but is clearly present.

Afterwards I'm just absorbed in this formlessness and next there was just this amazing clarity and experiencing

everything as if like a miracle with almost no thoughts, like he said, 90% of the thoughts gone. There's just no

more interest in the thought, I'm just basking in wonder of pure awareness, everything ordinary becomes

wonderful. I'm only interested in 'feeling' everything than thinking about it.

And I too felt that I needed to write it down "in case it leaves me or I lose it", and that is why I wrote it here. The

experience isn't equally intense in all moments of my life, but this 'peak experience' is actually not a distant

experience but is something accessible at any moment (there's only One) Right Now in the Present Moment, Pure

Awareness is the ever-present shining sun that can never be lost. It just becomes temporarily obscured as we

become fixated on thoughts, or become distracted... if we just turn the light around we discover this state is our

natural state and never leaves.

The thought that Eckhart Tolle's intro chapter in The Power of Now was very similar to mine did came to mind on

that night as I was writing the post, but it never occured to me that the order it all unfolded was actually similar.

C T

'xabir2005', on 29 Aug 2012 - 23:28, said:

There's just no more interest in the thought, I'm just basking in wonder of pure awareness, everything ordinary becomes

wonderful.

Pure awareness for me means the complete dropping off of the 'doer' aspect... its quite fun, seeing and doing

things yet with no ownership... the doing and seeing, and thinking, feeling, that kind of way, all gets done

effortlessly. Someone in the next house eats a sandwich and then a window opens in the opposite house...

simultaneously, the kid down the road then starts roller-skating, rain falls, thunder rolls... all happening in a

synchronistic fashion, in so much as one thing arising brings about the arising of other things -- then, seeing and

noticing the observing self, the self with tendencies, the self which grasps and shuns, also becomes just another

arising, inseparably linked to every other arising. After a while, one can stop asking the question, 'Who am i'. Then

the need to force any change becomes unnecessary. In time, a new kind of knowingness is birthed, one hears

anew, sees anew, feels more -- like sometimes, one gets to hear the subtle sound of dew forming on a blade of

grass in the early morn which, in all earnestness, does just enough to gently stir one from deep sleep.


Tibetan_Ice

'xabir2005', on 29 Aug 2012 - 23:28, said:

Sounds like the intensity of luminosity being experienced. This can be experienced dualistically or non-dualistically however. Do

you feel like the separate observer has dissolved and fused into everything or is there still a sense of separation?*

*(Something I wrote back in 01 Dec 2009, it is the experience of the intensity of luminosity but still dualistic):

I wrote: I think 'What is it' is a powerful koan and pointer. Whatever you say isn't It (it's your interpretation of It, which thus

is not It), you can only 'know' it by becoming ONE with it. Actually there is not even a becoming one, there is only actually IT,

our mind merely projects separation.

When we experience Awareness directly without using our thoughts, everything is experienced as having a magical, alive,

shimmery, fresh, amazing and blissful quality to it. Life is not not the 'boring and ordinary' as the mind interpretes it, even the

most ordinary things (such as eating, walking, etc) just feels awesome. You will be naturally attracted, pulled towards the

pristine awareness than to stressful thoughts. The ego will melt in the wonder and majesty of awareness. Awareness will

literally blow your mind away. One moment I was just dreaming stressful thoughts, the other moment I 'woke up' and was

totally drawn to Awareness itself... there was no compulsion for me to go back to the dream. It's just such a huge contrast.

Sometimes it's so blissful that people around me wonder why I'm smiling. But surely I'm not mad... it's mad to not notice Life...

hahaha

-----------

I was reading this interview by Eckhart Tolle just now and thought to myself "Oh my god, that's exactly the same order as I have

experienced it". First I was lost in suffering thoughts, then I had a compulsion to transcend the thoughts as I can't stand them

and what I did is precisely the same: asking Who am I? Then everything was dropped off and what remained was just this I AM,



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this beingness that doesn't have a form but is clearly present. Afterwards I'm just absorbed in this formlessness and next there

was just this amazing clarity and experiencing everything as if like a miracle with almost no thoughts, like he said, 90% of the

thoughts gone. There's just no more interest in the thought, I'm just basking in wonder of pure awareness, everything ordinary

becomes wonderful. I'm only interested in 'feeling' everything than thinking about it.

And I too felt that I needed to write it down "in case it leaves me or I lose it", and that is why I wrote it here. The experience isn't

equally intense in all moments of my life, but this 'peak experience' is actually not a distant experience but is something

accessible at any moment (there's only One) Right Now in the Present Moment, Pure Awareness is the ever-present shining sun

that can never be lost. It just becomes temporarily obscured as we become fixated on thoughts, or become distracted... if we just

turn the light around we discover this state is our natural state and never leaves.

The thought that Eckhart Tolle's intro chapter in The Power of Now was very similar to mine did came to mind on that night as I

was writing the post, but it never occured to me that the order it all unfolded was actually similar.

Hi Xabir

Thank you so much for your post.

When I first read what you have written, I had a very big rush which lasted a few hours.

I don't know what non-dualism is because I have never made an association with a practical experience to the

term. Maybe it is non-dualism, if non-dualism means that it 'feels' like you are everything. When I was looking at

the leg and the bathtub, it felt like I was the leg and bathtub, and the tiles and the soap dish. Normally that feeling

of "me" sits behind my eyes, somewhere in the center of my head, but in this case, that "me" had expanded to

encompass the whole scene. There was no separation. There was no watcher, it was as if the watcher was

everything, if that makes sense. I felt like I had become the whole scene. There was a flavor of "me" that was very

distinct and it was permeating everything.

And yes, as soon as the mind or conceptual mind came back in, the state was lost. The strange thing about it is

that the conceptual mind seems to be located behind the event of 'oneness' (if I can call that state that), and I've

tried to push it back but with no success. It comes forwards and then the clarity, the luminescence, the silence all

vanish. It appears to me that the conceptual mind is a very potent veil which hides this phenomenon.

Xabir, do you live in that state of luminescence all of the time? Does it come and go or have you stabilized in it? It

is such a wonderful state, I wish I could spend more time in it and get to know it better. I wish I knew how to turn

it on and keep it on!!

For you, did it 'turn on and stay on" the first time you discovered it or did it turn on and off remittantly? As you've

said, how does one "turn the light around"? I do many meditations of turning my attention back around towards

the sense or feeling of "I" behind my eyes, somewhere in the center of my head. My practice is "if I can see, hear or

feel something, to turn the attention to whatever is doing the apprehending. Abiding in the "I". Is that what you

mean by turning the light around?

If that state is what Eckart Tolle refers to as "presence", I can see why it is such a big deal. If I could remain in that

state I think I too would sit on a park bench with a very big smile on my face for a few years like he did.

TI

Edited by Tibetan_Ice, 30 August 2012 - 09:27 PM.

Tibetan_Ice

'C T', on 30 Aug 2012 - 06:13, said:



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Pure awareness for me means the complete dropping off of the 'doer' aspect... its quite fun, seeing and doing things yet with no

ownership... the doing and seeing, and thinking, feeling, that kind of way, all gets done effortlessly. Someone in the next house

eats a sandwich and then a window opens in the opposite house... simultaneously, the kid down the road then starts roller-

skating, rain falls, thunder rolls... all happening in a synchronistic fashion, in so much as one thing arising brings about the

arising of other things -- then, seeing and noticing the observing self, the self with tendencies, the self which grasps and shuns,

also becomes just another arising, inseparably linked to every other arising. After a while, one can stop asking the question, 'Who

am i'. Then the need to force any change becomes unnecessary. In time, a new kind of knowingness is birthed, one hears anew,

sees anew, feels more -- like sometimes, one gets to hear the subtle sound of dew forming on a blade of grass in the early morn

which, in all earnestness, does just enough to gently stir one from deep sleep.

Hi C T

You have experienced this state too?

Is it permanent?

How did you arrive at it?

Is it rigpa? Do you practice Dzogchen?

TI

Tibetan_Ice

Hi,

Three smiles! I found this post yesterday. It explains this phenomenon of the clear waterous substance coming out

of the face making the world seem bright, shiny, blissfull with the characteristic one taste of "me". !!! I have been

calling these episodes "satori" moments..

link: http://www.dharmaove...EF6C2FBE94229BD (http://www.dharmaoverground.org/web/guest/discussion

/-/message_boards/message/3245880;jsessionid=9E16BAEDD9CE1D66EEF6C2FBE94229BD)

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Posted by Peter Jackson from the Dzogchen practice group - [email protected]

The Map

I want to share how the whole thing fits together from the Dzogchen point of view and my experience regarding awareness,

energy, mind, self and liberation. From engaging in various methods from several different traditions, I have enough experience

to write about the whole process from beginning to end. I am not saying that one has to engage in meditation or energy practices.

But I will teach whatever is necessary so that what I am sharing below can be realized by anyone. There are many remedies for

various "stuck points". But we have to all be using the same map or at least be familiar with it. What I am sharing here I don't

believe you will be able to find very available on the open market. Most is considered to be the secret teachings of Tibetan

Dzogchen, not broadly known. If interested, we can work through specific Dzogchen practices that trigger the Clear Light of

Awareness to become revealed in consciousness.

Here's how it works: at first the person is seeking to find his enlightened nature within their own consciousness. They may

receive a pointing out instruction regarding the nature of "changeless awareness". But they may only understand intellectually

that their identity is not the body or mind. There was no total shift in perspective. This gives them a certain degree of relaxation

as though the intellect had acquired its goal of understanding, it can now relax. But that intellectual insight does not drive deep

enough into the energy contraction remaining in the subtle body and physical body, hence it is short lived. There was just a flash

of insight but no total transformation of the self-contraction and mind. By recognizing that subtle flash of insight again and

again, and learning to rest as just being the naked "observingess" in all experience, thoughts and mental engagement become

more calm and less captivating. As a result our inner subtle body of chakras, channels and subtle energy called chi or prana, all

begin to relax and expand. It is the energy contraction within the inner subtle body that gives the "feeling" of being a localized

self within and as a body. We're not talking about the concept of self now, we are talking about how its "feels" on a sensory level.

When the inner subtle body relaxes, because the mind relaxes, we experience a "feeling" of expansiveness, greater clarity, and

well-being.

Understanding gives us insight but may have no affect on the "feeling tone" of inner experience. We "get it" but no bliss or stable

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joy. Hence meditation may help in bringing the mind into a more calm state, and that is a good thing because the rest follows

organically.

This would normally be a model of yoga where the goal is calming and clarification of the mind and a deep relaxing of the body.

In yoga when this is accomplished, the inner channels and chakras will expand and open. If this relaxing process is allowed to

continue, eventually subtle energies will begin to flow from the bottom of the spine to the crown that may result in kundalini

enlightenment. That is considered the end of the path in yoga. However in Tibetan Dzogchen, that is where our practice begins.

When the chakras are fully relaxed, open and expansive, another more subtle energy body is revealed within. It's the inner Body

of Light or Clear Light. It's much more subtle than the chakras and subtle energy channels of subtle body. Prana, chi or kundalini

does not flow in these subtle light channels, only Clear Light. The channels are themselves crystalline and transparent. The main

crystal channel, called "Kati" in Tibetan, flows from the innermost center of the heart chakra, up through the central channel

into the brain. It arcs forward and splits into two channels ending at the very center of the pupils. The Clear Light is centered in

the heart chakra, the seat of Being. Clear Light Awareness is "seated" in the brain. It is the innermost center of the crown chakra.

When the Light Channels are completely relaxed, the Clear Light in the heart will reflect upward and shine out the eyes. Other

Light Channels flow upward filling the entire area of the brain. As the Clear Light is reflected into the brain through the

microscopic network of Light Channels, consciousness is transformed into Clear Light Awareness. We feel utterly transparent

and free of any sense of localization or physical identity when this happens. Our Awareness seems poised within our eyes and

our skull seems transparent. The Self-Knowing Wisdom of Clear Light is suddenly revealed as the very nature of Clear Light

Itself. All doubts are absent and there is no self in Clear Light Awareness as the mind and consciousness have been transformed

into Clear Light as well. In Tibetan this state of being is called "Rigpa" which means both awareness and its wisdom. This is our

goal in practice.

By remaining relaxed completely, the Light Channels will remain open and our state will continue to be the

Beingness of Clear Light Awareness. As the Clear Light continues to flow into the Light Channels in the brain,

it will eventually begin to overflow downward into the entire body, revealing the body to be transparent as

well. The outer world will still be visible but clearly transparent like a giant crystal hologram floating in space.

"Inside and outside" well no longer apply, nor do center or fringe. So we simply rest as what we are. When the

mind begins to engage in thinking and conceptualizing again, that subtle mental grasping is enough of a contraction to cause the

very delicate Light Channels to close. When that happens the lights go out, so to speak. Then we drop the concepts and mental

grasping, and just deeply relax until the Light Channels blossom again. Our goal is to find ourselves always fully relaxed as Clear

Light Awareness. We are simply relaxed in our Natural State, timelessly free, radiating intrinsic compassion, love and

spontaneous creativity within the Natural Bliss of our own Being. Remember we are only modifying our energy, the Clear Light

of Awareness is always unchanging, but its aura of energy can contract and give a sense of localization. That contraction and

localization is only an "experience" and in no way modifies our Beingness. But I think we prefer the open state as opposed to the

contracted… but our essential Beingness enjoys it all as pure play.

Not everyone has to engage in any type of practice in order to open the Light Channels. Many people already see from their

heart, as the Clear Light of Awarenesss. They respond really well to pointers to Awareness. Also those whose Light Channels are

somewhat open can really benefit from pointing out methods. But those that are really contracted and "shut in", some work may

need to be done first, like meditation, therapy or chakra work. But once the full arising of Clear Light Awareness occurs, that

occurrence becomes one's reference of practice. It may first occur from just a simple pointing out as to the true nature of

awareness. Or it may take months or years of preliminary work to relieve the contraction. Its not that Awareness can be

obstacled by anything, but rather that its Wisdom and Self-Recognition does not occur in the contracted state. That Wisdom

Energy has transformed into mind and self. That's why when the self-mind-energy dissolves, the Wisdom is automatically

known. The Wisdom Energy was compressed and transformed into dualistic mind by the intense gravity of the "I" concept. All

the energy becomes contracted around the "I" concept. No "I" concept, no contraction. No contraction, sheer bliss…

The bolding is mine.

This is quite a revelation for me as different parts of that post relate to several experiences that I've had over the

years. I feel very grateful that someone has actually posted that topic.

TI

C T

Very easy-to-grasp, detailed article on the process of reaching the embryonic stages of Clear Light realization.

Precise too.

Thanks for putting it up, TI.


r vPosted 06 January 2013 - 12:03 PM


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Really nice find, TI.

Jeff

Excellent description. Thanks TI.

Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

xabir2005

'Tibetan_Ice', on 30 Aug 2012 - 23:25, said:

Hi Xabir

Thank you so much for your post.

When I first read what you have written, I had a very big rush which lasted a few hours.

I don't know what non-dualism is because I have never made an association with a practical experience to the term. Maybe it is

non-dualism, if non-dualism means that it 'feels' like you are everything. When I was looking at the leg and the bathtub, it felt

like I was the leg and bathtub, and the tiles and the soap dish. Normally that feeling of "me" sits behind my eyes, somewhere in

the center of my head, but in this case, that "me" had expanded to encompass the whole scene. There was no separation. There

was no watcher, it was as if the watcher was everything, if that makes sense. I felt like I had become the whole scene. There was a

flavor of "me" that was very distinct and it was permeating everything.

And yes, as soon as the mind or conceptual mind came back in, the state was lost. The strange thing about it is that the

conceptual mind seems to be located behind the event of 'oneness' (if I can call that state that), and I've tried to push it back but

with no success. It comes forwards and then the clarity, the luminescence, the silence all vanish. It appears to me that the

conceptual mind is a very potent veil which hides this phenomenon.

Xabir, do you live in that state of luminescence all of the time? Does it come and go or have you stabilized in it? It is such a

wonderful state, I wish I could spend more time in it and get to know it better. I wish I knew how to turn it on and keep it on!!

For you, did it 'turn on and stay on" the first time you discovered it or did it turn on and off remittantly? As you've said, how does

one "turn the light around"? I do many meditations of turning my attention back around towards the sense or feeling of "I"

behind my eyes, somewhere in the center of my head. My practice is "if I can see, hear or feel something, to turn the attention to

whatever is doing the apprehending. Abiding in the "I". Is that what you mean by turning the light around?

If that state is what Eckart Tolle refers to as "presence", I can see why it is such a big deal. If I could remain in that state I think I

too would sit on a park bench with a very big smile on my face for a few years like he did.

TI

1) You are experiencing non-dual, but not yet realization. For non-dual experience to become effortless,

realization must arise. Read this and you will know more about what I'm talking about: http://awakeningtore...w-

practice.html (http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.sg/2011/12/experience-realization-view-practice.html)

2) The next part of your post is talking about practicing to attain I AM realization. For me, self-inquiry is a direct

path to that realization. More on self-inquiry in my e-book: http://awakeningtore...ke-journal.html

(http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-e-booke-journal.html)

Edited by xabir2005, 08 January 2013 - 10:12 PM.


Simple_Jack

'C T', on 06 Jan 2013 - 12:49, said:

Very easy-to-grasp, detailed article on the process of reaching the embryonic stages of Clear Light realization. Precise too.

Thanks for putting it up, TI.

' "changeless awareness"... being the naked "observingess" in all experience... the seat of Being...to be the

Beingness of Clear Light Awareness... the Natural Bliss of our own Being... the Clear Light of Awareness is



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always unchanging... in no way modifies our Beingness... our essential Beingness enjoys it all as pure play.'

Too bad, he's a realist, who makes dzogchen into some sort of crypto/Neo-Advaitan amalgamation.

Quote

http://www.dharmawhe...php?f=66&t=7420 (http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=7420)

Jax wrote:You are Being.

Malcolm: This is not Dzogchen. This is Neo-Advaita.

Quote

http://www.dharmawhe...=7436&start=100 (http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=7436&start=100)

Session Start: Wednesday, April 22, 2009

(5:28 PM) AEN: hi

(5:29 PM) AEN: btw i was searching about jax in e-sangha and found they were suggesting that he is not an authorised teacher of

dzogchen

Someone asked Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche:

"A person called Jackson Peterson ([email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) ), has a group called DzogchenPractice on

Yahoo Groups. He claim to have permission from you to teach Semde,is this true?

He also claim to be able to give direct introduction by means of e-mail. For me this seem highly unlikely, could you please

comment on this?"

I then received the following answer:

"Dear Magnus,

Thanks for your info. I'll inform him that he is going

wrong direction.

With many Tashu Delegs NN.

Ish

I found that post very interesting TI, just one point if someone could clarify.

". When the mind begins to engage in thinking and conceptualizing again, that subtle mental grasping is enough of a contraction to

cause the very delicate Light Channels to close."

From my reading about Dzogchen and it's practice my understanding was that the thoughts arising didn't really

matter as one can be in Rigpa while thoughts are arising or not arising. I think I even read that when lots of

thoughts were arising the awareness of natural state can become even stronger!

Thanks


C T

'Simple_Jack', on 08 Jan 2013 - 09:41, said:

' "changeless awareness"... being the naked "observingess" in all experience... the seat of Being...to be the Beingness of Clear

Light Awareness... the Natural Bliss of our own Being... the Clear Light of Awareness is always unchanging... in no way

modifies our Beingness... our essential Beingness enjoys it all as pure play.'



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Too bad, he's a realist, who makes dzogchen into some sort of crypto/Neo-Advaitan amalgamation.

Dear SJ,

Upaya is a broad term. There are unlimited upaya, even within Dzogchen, that leads to the final fruit. Sometimes,

gurus use words to fit their listeners. Dont be distracted. If you intuit deeply that you are on the right path, then

you would also know all the turns you had to take, or perhaps are still taking, even though you may have

surpassed stages that others have yet to.

In Dzogchen, there exists many approaches and pointing-outs in conveying the essential meanings. These

approaches are to be seen for what they are, or they could easily become 'stumblers' on the path, or arise at later

points during one's practice to become concrete obstacles. Dont take this the wrong way, but obstacles can be

helpful too.

Even ChNNR advises students to use whatever means available, in an informed way, to progress. He is far from

being a prude and a purist. He knows that at some level, means will drop off naturally, like scab. If you find this

far-fetched, please ask him yourself.

Wisdom can only be a reality when it is integrated into the realm of human experience. Words and dogma can

only do so much, but then, their usefulness as technical aids (merely) need to be seen clearly.

The Buddha spoke about the Four Brahmaviharas, namely, love, compassion, sympathetic joy and equanimity. Do

you know the meaning of the term Brahmavihara? A dwelling in God. But in the context of Buddha's teachings, it

can be equated to divine abode, or sublime attitudes. Buddha never denied divinity -- He merely pointed to

obvious spiritual implications of clinging to such, how some become ensnared by symbols and form, while

simultaneously, like a master Teacher, by the very same symbols and form, He showed the way to unfettered

freedom (the knowledge and practice of yantra, mantra and mudra rings a bell). He spontaneously taught

according to people's level, as should all sublime teachings be. Buddha was a total realist, too.


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