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LIBRARY SlJPRE ME COUR T, U, S. In the ~uprcme <ttourt of tbc Wnitcb ~tatc~ CLARENCE EUGENE STRUN'l, ) ) Petitioner, ) ) v. ) No. 72-5521 ) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ) ) Respondent. ) :a: CTI ...,,, -r: .... - ..., '"' '1 rn :::n -= :c rr. -...,o ·<"> n s: -"o< co oC:m -o :x C>C: tT1c:n ..... Hashington, D, c. April 24, 1973 Pages 1 thru 38 Ouplieat,on or copy,ne of this transcript by photoeraphic, electrostatic or other facsimile means ,s prohibited under the order form aereement. HOOVER REPORTI NG COMPANY, INC. Off,daJ 'R.cf>Orttrs Wasbiog,oo, D. C, 546-6666

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Page 1: ME COURT, U, S. In the ~uprcme

LIBRARY SlJPRE

ME COUR T, U, S . In the

~uprcme <ttourt of tbc Wnitcb ~tatc~

CLARENCE EUGENE STRUN'l, ) )

Petitioner, ) )

v. ) No. 72-5521 )

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ) )

Respondent. )

:a: ~

CTI

...,,, -r: .... -..., '"' '1 rn :::n -= :c rr. -...,o ·<"> n

s: -"o< co oC:m -o ~~o :x -· C>C: ~ tT1c:n .....

Hashington, D, c. April 24, 1973

Pages 1 thru 38

Ouplieat,on or copy,ne of this transcript by photoeraphic, electrostatic or other facsimile means ,s prohibited under the

order form aereement.

HOOVER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. Off,daJ 'R.cf>Orttrs

Wasbiog,oo, D. C,

546-6666

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• BURGER, C'1ief Juzt:l.ce of the United States O. t:OUGi,I\S, Jl.si:.oci.,te Justic~ J. J3R~NNll~l, Jn., .i\ssociate .:ruot:i.ce

Rn, r.e .... ociate Jus'-::tce t, :...·J:Er Afisnciate Juntice

-..r 'U:J.,, AS';;Oc:i.a·::.e Ju~tice T .• r:K1 .. UN, G.Ssocinte Just.ice 0~1BLL. J•<., ASSC'cia'l::e Justice

! ~ N()t,i:ST, 1'.ssociate Jnstice

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~ I'!':l ·rs, Ef.lq., 12 We$t Wc:.sl1ington Street, o l!L,::>i$ 6C602; for .. he P-:tit.Loner.

L'~OFD RF!.t,10!.,DS, Es.q., i.5S:i.~t::.~nt to the ~en, re~, eriartment of Just.:i.ce,

'· C. 20530; for tne Respondent,

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t.o t i l, s rigi ch du , on

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, r t e Ci io ~.Jeer v. H:i.ngo

n .. ~ h th court f a peal , nnd

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11, t t t o and a h 1f mon't.hc,

y o. f thi diwcusci n of a

there w S OOl'l

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• I t Hia~ impr ssion on

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n , irtu lly no

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C ·o a r 'l al"t -d r.ot est bJ. • h speedy tri, 1

l, c . .- e a. I 1c. r.l) 7 ssed a·L 'ch t point, Your

th t · l;_y ~ r.e •r~ ing r--oxai:iin .. tion of tho.;o .i.ssues.

l j · '• <.:o not ::; e how thfoy c.:m.

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·-''• WTD ;1:~rs: • clo not eithc.:, Your Ionor.

Q ,:o er.on· oct:.tion. I ju::it uonder,.d why you

on it. \le hav,:, got ll a::ffieult

·1 m or ·· .·i.",

·1I .c.Il Iu • T 't: a:i:guraent j_,, no,; very :'.ong at

c ~''-', u ju t ::ieJ, it \las fcrn'ld. Ii.: was

• . . .,;i ~ati::.=actori~.y asoert'la his right

t·· l. · , ana it h,:, ld ,; 1;,. he was prejudiced.

r ci :i.

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~t ~.r. :his case is ·che type of

T.1c: preju<lice in this case was not

s ~et o h c.cfe1we of h:!.a case but rather

o th,t l·. "'cr,m:, hud been pi:,:1judiced because

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·i " i,wc.,.c cation prior to trial, relying-

1 _ __;_OO~, l::i that Mr, ;trunk

u lo •~ concu,.,. nt tima.

, r ,;:: r 'i.n1 i:o ?'~brasl:a 's incarceration

• · e ,, d-a: •. inr.:arccration, Your

1dcrstooc. you; right.

1 n the Ncbras~a ctate

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· •·,a: ,-lo h ua' ir. \:J1 ~n::. .entia:..--y.

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·:.c.,, bt ... h? t .:.s in ie.=r;.-.~ -lo .. ~ custody.

1.· >'"".'II .J . '!c t1aS in ll _J-J"~e.:J -i':. • s Cctstocly, yes,

Di. ~ cot..:t of .:ppeal:: think .. "!i..; uas an

. . • ' I,,. ..

y~ 'l Yo, , .. ,:· .: t <J on an 5.ndependent conviction in

_ the ccate r.:ourcs?

·tc;.. . o, •.t r..:: ... +~d on t:ha la~ gue.ge :i.n

in 'cl ,

- , l "~ .... ::.ng of 'Che custody" N'eb,:-ac~<a I s

.c t::ial 11as based upon <- conviction

'-: · ~ oJ!fen..ie and r-::.1-io state courts--or

:s ·o, · 1a;; ir; correct, Your 1Io,1or.

(., l i r..o 1t-::.~t. o:i: tha fede:r:al case·?

s "h : a id, \ ou:i: Honor, in the seni;e

, .. lJ .irnp.!'i c.:oned, he was running the

. con.:n1:~rc-nt time. That lf! how they

., ~:], ~-CG 'i.n :1'is cmie, and that is how

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~ - . ; nd, of ccurs , th possibility

i , 0L1r case.

e,; .. ;i,ck.110 le.;!gc, ;;1 t dismis ~c;:l

c _ d' .i.o. • medy. lowev r, they

.::..~-a: i. thi.~ c.:i.-:;e. Acc-:>.dingly

'~ · .. , out 0·1'"! t.hi ,1 p ren hcti.c:illy.

r C':'t th t't ' " t-io r

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bl·-~ 1 ·;;;o vie .·h(. cts in

.:.'• en .. p _:,:spuc i , the- court

. ily :i. O'Ui..c + ·'- Court to

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i :it; to a cpoed :rial. 1\nd

t •- !'vln

mi·;; that the o:i.e thing

-w tr, Ot\l'<!r L:.·. Strunk'.,;

thn effect of the . .,_

<' u ;_. ot '"""ppeals.

· -;; l-,·,-;;,0:1: ;;ug'j ~:aii:ea that i::he

denial of a speedy t::ia!,

e •it, ·.:hat .act, adding

v · i:c , i:lll v ;, ouh~ couple a

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l I •'!.a c l ' t g• 'It o his

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0 ·- - on i...J... '1.1 e \ 1:'~ nccui tcd, the

tl , N ' ~r ,dmi ttf!d <knial of 'cl - right, with

l • an at.ocuc d ~ i t:l: -.:he .. · ght to be

· r • (LZ i.i in tttis ca!:e h~:,,; th,11: tht,

1 • :i: i tt~ ! o .. ar.d, wi 1 ~- encourage

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o-- .:i. ~•-~ )n b1y ant· ci.,z-.te tl:at the

f Z' ,,n CCU Ci is the s ~:~th v. ---.. C. ,IC 'l::'C tion prio to

) J.. t . ·~~ cio. dili.gence in

, v10.a on of. th rig~t in the

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·h t..l,,_ ro·,~cutor

hei .. ·r \:er .. co pecple ,·ho

'i:'1.:it:i: 0,1d a-,.iti,.,1 trial,

v.:lid P::5 orlty ~s q,1mer.-::: as

t i:c ,:,,.icon unner convici:ion in

.: •'- Iono , ! find, I am so-::r.y, a

J;,a totally repugnant.

~ r;:::; ~uch a grc~a unf'ai:cness

-~:~g·\:ed t:o a low priority,

·• , ·hei:.he!:' in your ·,,iew

0 ?

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!OF: .L no i.:hin

., I • 0 ;_ I ,10 avoid."n

h:-'l've p:,:oblc..a tod y .:hat . .:11 of

i i::crm'> • ~ 1e ef:fcc<::i.vo admir..i.&tr t.'.o o•'

·: c l. h , t ~.1,cmdous bac; logs. T'T~ have

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cntc-· ., . l f.11\"C ov~ruarked, OV -burd ned

no it.

1.i e c· "'.Y ... "l ,:; far ~-ca,\ per ... _c';, :.t is not

.•: . ult ··1 is . :..f 1~ havu _:, ~sign .

i:o'.· '· '"':r. ~·. · '.s ;_ ·;; ori of ju&i::\.ca, , f wn

r.,d; t • e i; :J.• :JQ'•".(•ty .. :au.:. , not 3

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·bit 1:il~• that on ca-s

·, ·i h.i: e repe.it dly ref 1tred to

" ..!t:l.on. 1 am ccnfu<,ed oy your

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l•:ny i inc.'.!:c-cer ··.io ny lt,O

JC 1 l C '!J'.

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.-_,r,te~ :- ·:i.n l.}ringin;, so:neo1 -~ t.> t::ial. Mere

,.. _. C 'Int

• in "' 1:o_m o.~ :•.nccrc~,r?ttti.on prior to trial, because there

' tl-h,' :t .:.s p.:irposcf:ul.

I IS :1 not L,aldng any claim in thie: case that there

opp:!".:..1.,ive i1•c=cer.atio!I. I have coupled the term

•• · · c .... 1 cpp:::-c..;si.Ye" because of th<l language i11 ~_i!!!_y.

"'/ YOl\ 0:C0 talkin9 abo1,t i;h~ pU.3SLg,, quoted on

r' O:? o p ~g~~ " .. l oi: you-.c Lrief, r ~sur,1e?

vco, Y ur. Honor..

,i ~-1h:'..ch i. 51 :~ th : • !Iooey quoted 1.:1,°'t language

t :o·i tl,' ~IJ.cl!. ca c, if 'i am not mistaken, "undue

. '" ~.i1c1t c.:,,:e from !:.'Well, yes, Your

• 1 in t c -! c:.cicn {;J1::?y elaborated on it within a

. X ~Ub d cont1;,-:t.

. '. \ ... ...:.I :IS• ~1ile the rc~cdy of absolute

.,, :o, ;_ · i:: no m::i:ce severe than i-,hat a finding

,, - < A finding of a

? r.: ~- 1l, i;.r, ~ ? cc(y ..:r:!. al ila. one of the few

•• ·-. , - c, ~1J.Y 0 ):t con·;:ain~ within

,_ . i ... .. cl !lr :• "

p1.·ecise a ag midnight is

e. I .ly, "Gove:rnrrten;;, you had the

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fttll nnd. unf.ei:tered oppor.tunity to try this accused. You

.l.le,] t:o do GO :,d the fault iG entirely yours."

:.::c we wioh to give meaning to the constitutional

c1~ -e '.:h t trials be S~)edy, then we submit we should

-.,nforce it vigorous~.y, with absolute discharge.

Q Yet we have ah-mys spoken of. prejudice in

~or,01ection vith a speedy tr-ial right. ~lhat was his

" ejt'.C.1ic,.. here, ,_ ,ctc!pt ::he c!cnial of possible concurrent

t twas

n. 1,XD3l,-iS: Notr.ing more than that, Your Honor.

J..• , .. ....

Q Al ,1 die not the Seventh Circuit reGult render

hl. l~!,)El.KIS: Ei,actly. What the Government

•. h ti._ Cou:.:t .::an give bac:,. It was a compensatory

, it 11, s no consti1:utional foundation for points

., ti·ve ~-- i1,;;;d ~.::..:lier. It is the kind of remedy that

r ct ·o• rt cot,lc1 not have done. To give a compensatory

• y ·. ", ':{nj.ze- th_ V'l.lidit:y of a txial, while with this

.<.ll.[g, ~ -- ·i mi',: th .. ::o could not have been o. trial. This

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y l.nnoce!lt. lk could not get to a

s•gs s~s that ubsolute discharge

,,y. ·c:; it doe , , then soc;.ety must

, tlr. s;•runk, but its agent, the

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Gove:.:nmznt, for squandering its right to try him. The

Gov r:1ment suggests t.hat we ar£. urgiug i:11\nesty in this case.

r. de ·1ot unde;:s:.:an] h 'H they can u:::e l:.he word "2mnesty" since

• aronesty is usua:;.ly oiven to one uho is at fault, who has

comrrJ.·:.:.ted some 1;::-:011;;. But the finding of a denial of a

speedy tr~.al says th3.'o: S·trunk vas procedurally innocent.

I'inally, the cou:ct suggests that the remedy urged

by th;:;: petitioner visi'.:c retribution on the Government and

<::1' p,•bJ.ic. If :i.t dc~.r-, ,-;e ~ubmit that the retribution is

'-'e lf-j n::lic i::cd and the injt•.r:cc1 should not be henrd to

0 '.Jou ::ee:;. that you are not attacking the

u cl r _,inn ngs o.: Ilarkci:: v. Wingo in any way?

!rR. t'iIDE.IKIS. :'10, !:ir; no, Your Iion~r 9

Q I~ seems to me that what you have argued is

F'=-•~ci~eJ.y an attaclc on that case.

1m. W:i:DEJ.KIS: I do not see that at a2.l, Your

l!o:10:-:-. We had na:r.ker v. Winryo applied by the court of

r')".:1s ·i:--: the filcts .'.n th0 case. They made a determination

~i,oiL tho:.c wa~ a denial of speedy ·.::rial here. Darker v.

'1i r? d:i.d o'_ t,n ,:-l: di;7ect).y to the '.ssue of a remedy for

spH,d~• ~-~i ,il, hut 5. t contained dicta which

' e ly. !!n~ · ;1 vc nv ,?lppreciaticn of a suggestion,

• o Uc.nc:..- t~'lut it co, .. ?licts i~ any way with Darker v. Wingo.

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MR. CHIEF JUSTICE IlU~GER: '1'hank you.

·•r. Rey10 ,k?

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0 i. !\,bu,- 'l r ().i, ,/ILLI.1\1-l .1Rl\DFORD REYNOLDS, ESQ. ,

0 '1 nmIA:::.F OF '.P.HE RESt'ONDENT

.·lR. RE 'OLDS: M,:. Chi.ef Justic<::, may it please

tlt- Court:

'!'he : ss 1e in this C'l.Se concerns the nature of tne

:.:e "':,; thac ca,\ p_·o,,e;. ly be a,::corded by ·tho cour ::s upon

f rtl'.ng a ,•'olation o_ the Sizth Amendnent :::-ight to .,_

ro

eyno.Las, ~ <,!ether you are defining this

v; ,~ ch€ holC:ing .:hi.I-: there was a denial:

• HE ,OiaDS: Your llonor, I "l.:hink tha'C ·chis Court

.. a 01.y ..1 f1.:·.1-

.1 1..' you thin: we took the case for that

Rtl 10 D

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· do not believe you a·a take the

r .n suggesting th~t· -

,1 want to avoid c-i .. 1.ng the issue

': a _ J. cor ect

c .r ainly never suggested

iorar •

::hat

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Q And you never filed any cross petition.

MR. REYNOLDS: That is true, we did not file a

19

Q lih-lt ,,re you doing; you are just saying we do

1;-it ',.,,o to ckciti0 t e question because they 1e'!:e wron,;

· ,y1. l on i:he holding?

l-m. HEYNOLD.3: ! thi.11. that this C::,~\rt could

P.:..operi.y nk ke t .;. ct~ci~io-,,.

Q Yo, ~~e urging us to do it, are you not?

MR. n::.YNOLDS: lie do address ourselves in our main

l>:.ie: to he princ5.p3:.. issue. We do not, as you pointed

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hJ would \l<:e h~ve taken the case if that was

:he .:.~:,o. ... n ·;:, be made of it?

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., i. REY.,10:GDS: Your Honor, I am not sure that we

tic:.p'i ~ . th? disposi tio,1 that the Court is going to

B•.:t. l think thac ',;hat is an argument.

He. h,_ve enough things i:o do, I s:t:ould suggest.

t t. ':! .~ ... ns: r. pl .n to address nyself to the

o - · 1 r~,, '1 • · ;>ci r thin!· th-.t that issue is whether

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c ~:-·· c,i: appe 1ls can properly be accorded

.:inding o .:: Si:·th lm,cnrlment speedy trial

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•. " tu 1d ... n ntal ·.i.cch·c to a speedy trial has for

•n Oo! 1.m,c, by tl·e courts in ab.iolute terms.

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i'h iE-, that 5.t eq 1ires _rial within a specified time frame

o t at i's <' n be :n,,oked only l.!fter • speedy .:rial has been

eei,1a dee by the accused. Hithin that relatively rigid

f,· ~"•erk the f · nding of tl1e consticu·.;ional violation in this

a I. 1 the P"::: aJ.uost invariably turned on one of two

~tio; s, ith,!r _h.:.t l::he delay in bring the cus~ to

i: • h·. been snc!- a::; to ".l:Cc~umptively o;: actuaV.y

d. ce the prep'"':-:..1....on of the defense of a case or tha-c

} elay !',., be n a ourposoft1J. one by the prosecutor which

a -~ignecl to gaj n soric tactical advantage over the

. u C.

_n botil of. those. ;;i ·::uations the most basic notions

•. -·' ? fa i.rn~sz clicta';e a dismi-,sal of the indictment

onl ci:frc·ive r'medy for enforcing the speedy trial

< • An ~1 '-' t, no..: , .irr, ising ly, has he:cetofo,.e been the

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r o.s~ o cl_ f~noing of a denial of a ccns~itu-

T,- -t tc--w., ho ev.ai:, this Court in Barker v. iiingo,

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• l n t .. c _,pe dy ti:ial guarantee in

et _1

, to 1

co ·lud_d th<tt the right did not by

·tanical tu~t for determining when

-~· c Cou t, os Mr. Justice Brennan

i c- i g o ,inion in Dickey v. Florida,

e ~lo.!ble standard for ascertaining

ri ht I as been infringed in -.:he

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c · :cc• ms··:anc"' o,: ... a"ticul · case.

A ~ta--i ard b se o c. careful and .,ensitive

b,., .. a ce of fom~ _el _teo f;,acto:i:s--the length of the delay,

the .. ec>.so fo t e de_ay, che <,::sertion by the defendant of

· ii:;; •~i£'h to -c ::-';)eedy trinl, and the prejudice resulting

·,:r~i :he dela:,,·.

·' . c0 rt of appeals looked to thofle factors in

p ,:, r.t c"sc, and it found on a balance of those factors

··-1 c. ·en-month del<1.y he;~e be·cween indi.ctment and trial

~ u .con it;_ tuti ,1al in the particular circumstances

: 'iVc 1 ved here.

Co;nsel fo= petitioaer has discussed those

ci-~u.' cc>nces al'"eac1y, and I do not think there is any need

.o c-, · r1t ti1cm in my det-il ut this point. I think the

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_ .1t '1ing -: s th, · ti is ,;,;:e-trial delay, ·::~n-month

-~• I 1ir· it· , g. '<ced to, did not prcjud::.ce the

·J•c re Jctl'. , •. i.on of his defense in any way. There

•• > .1 c. · r~rs • "·· :;,r .judice such as a loss of liberty

·:,;. •.t , f · '\ .; a. resources and the like, personal

1 '. ' du:. to th' o:.e-t1:;.a1 incarceration, because that

·,: . ;, .. . ' i a Nebraska state penal co.11plex and it

\;;~-~ .:,.1,.t 0. 0 "l .;t?tc convict:ion where he was

hk e year .entence at the time.

; ·tu·~ .· ,sertea that'the pending federal

·fee .id ,he stato confine."'\lent or causea

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nim any mental :.:.,1gnish or anxiety that would e.ccompany publi<l

. eel' at:.cn bcc~u ;e of the pccndir.g indictment.

Rather, the only pccjudice claimed by petitioner

end the only pre:iudice found by the court of appeals to have

:ce., • l tcd f:cor., the p:cc-trial delay depended on the concurreni:

,; n..:E'ncu petitioner received follo1•1ing his dire act

convi c ::.ior..

'.: us, 011 the basis of the sentence imposed by the

• t et ~l jt.dge after the dire act conviction, on hindsight,

•. ~ ·-r.-m nth del~y caused petitioner to lose timP. he was

rvi".lq on hie state sentence that would otherwise have run

c i::rcncly wi'dt '.:he federal sentence.

., "J•r. 1i,e c.ccc~pt the court of appeals decision that

i: .cpe): balance was ::;t·-:uck here on the issue of whether

,a• a vioJ.a;;i.on, the ?"<:mcdy fashioned by the court

1 c- po c · ti oner r..>ncc.. cs fully cur.ea the only prejudice

• \. , ,. .• Cf c_ .,d:. ting .,irJ w"l th the time of the pre-trial

0. l)c. •i e- · ,1d;.c<;;n-'n"t and arraignment, thac

u , '·r s entirely proper.

t.,c o:t._ n thut the fle:dble standard announced

'ou in D-il=- ~1·i• Winqo_ permits a finding of a

>vcuy rial violation on fact:; such as these,

1 • · · ·:' :•r i. . ecd-d in the remedy phase of the

1 • p · p ·iate cases the cc\1rts can taylor

. ni:: ; h y find r.eeds to be cured.

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' h t th c.c. 1:-:t of appc-a ls did here •·1as to devise

c..li ..,a: .. ,• :1" .i. ·i:h 11 i:hc. di.;.uis..;al of the indic·cment,

whic'l ful 1.:, r;:,stor, d p'.ltitioner to the position he

l'O".lld have t , 1 ir. hi.d there ~c,on no unreasonable p:ce-i:ri al

el y. By (!5. ing p,:,tition r. er.edit on his federal seni:ence

.:or hi.s :,.,.-.,. :cc.e.,;..:':ion du.:cing the pe:::icd between indictment

~nci • rraig-~ment,. tile cci.:r.t fashioned relief to vindicate the

'"' l} · r. tc:rc-_.; of ,:he· accused that i ·:; found had been adver sely

f t"J. :J• the S!.::th Amendment violation.

hO.'E;OV<!J:, thi<.J r~lief served far better than would

< ::-.. 1.'.~s<1l ct t;1e ir.c..iccntcn;;, served the societal interests

1" -~ •vir•; ch,;. specC:::r t~·ial provision. Public concern i s

.. t- .l~ d:fl.!ctiv .! prosecuti.o~ of criminal cases with

=-:at ~cl:llc. cli pclt,•!1. 'Jeluys can often work to the

rcvc .ri.,.er.i.. • s ,j i.~1..ctva~t .. gc ,-,~, .:-:?1ucing tts capacii:y to prove

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W _ ·e., ; J~ ever.. ;;.he, pi::oncc1.,t:i.on' s case remains

,: !:JJ '.;r'-....: ._ ?l y ~ as he'=12, and where there has been no

C. o ··he ~,.,1r, d in the sense of impairment of his

o. •-~ ,;. . s, .c,; oi: pe.:sonal pr0judice due to pre-

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" • • · rm ..,.,. ·:he public accusation that accompani es

~Ja~n i~ the case here, then

'r _ c ~, gene =ally bes·;; served by allowing the

,._ ) "t"i~l and i.ecting -the jury decide whether

. -~

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~here L • '1e obvious exc~ption wh,3rc cne

se~utor n<;c:<' ,~ in -urpo .. sful ::i.ela~ to gai.n a tact5.cal

-:iv-, ~age, as Tr.. 1..Tus-..icc Harl.an pointed out in noting such

•:i. i.c .i.nl , '-;cc, e .. t in his di-,;3enting opinion in Chapman v •

.- ~c St t~s ,t 336, and r quo-te: "Socie'.:y cannot tolerate

.~v .. r-. f::.nal "'f~cct to a judgment tainted wi til such

.r ;,,,..:.c..n.!l isccnd·i..tct. u

nut tt.fJl:C is no such ofi:icial abuse of. the

'"· l pror,css il"·,oJ.•;cd in this case. 11.nd thus the

' 1. :..:..1 interes , il i:::- ying pdople accused of crime is served

ot ·Jy ,;_·;:,n·vLo,.. !JCtition~r in:munization because of

., :J ~ c .. _o. Lu:. ';y ..'ash:".o:1ing his sentence, as did the court

• i.: p€', .. ~, i:o cu•·..: wha.-cver possibJ.e prejudice he was

"> ' .• l vr.cJas, wliat you are saying is « very

i n j 1st f:i.(• tion "c: U1c action of the court of appeals

•t, of course, as r.rt Brother Brennan !las

h ·n Pe qrt•nt -:::erti.ora:i:i in a case generally, if

:ei"' sc:i:-iously,. it: is beci:.use the issue has

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:our corn$rs of the particular case •

.!.s, What sort of guidimce does

c ~1.,.r:~ .\ti the future? \·lhan a motion

;_ ind :.ctm nt because of a denial of a

i +- co •re to "'~Y, "Yes, you have been

no:. going to cl i Jmise. the

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ir '.:. ,i;,ne ,. You hav~ to go und be trie-1." Ti•at is what you

• n. REYNOLDS: I ,.m saying, Your llonor, that in

a,.>pi·op~·J .. ---~ •. ::;e; i::h,:t may very ~;ell be appropriate relief.

. a; s·.1 s. Jting ·lut just a3 this Cour·;; announced an ad hoc

C:. : .. tn9 c r ru ,.c1 ho-: ba3i::, for looking a·i: the speedy 'i:rial

vjoLti it•,e.1.f, t 1w.t so too it is appropriate to have the

c~:c, i:•c-· o rt:s m:w"lin0 the various factors that we are

:::'1: 1;::i ng · r,out., that the Court was talking c!bout in Barlcer

V. . . 1go. --- - -- .,,____

Q You ,:;;:nnot see all of those factors untj.l

•;• , ia:i... i1nd yet Ba.i·ke:t: v. Wingo,. as you and I both

. , :ha-.: ':.ht.• b ic ,:1=,nedy for denfal of a speedy tria:• .

c: a ..... 1 -~ .e Lt,# ~'..> g\.1ing to be any trial.

m " • o:s.u. ; The determ;.na·i.:ion in Barker v. Wing(!_

' ' , ' efo··e trial, That is when those factors are

c .- .. ,-! d:i.strict. courts, and that is wh,m they apply

Q I 11. n,. ,:c,d -cho motion here. I suppose i-l:

• .- r .pur d by i:hc- :1 s it 1n:epared pro se?

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•:,. r"":'.m:r,r.i:.:. ! :,elicve there was counsel, Your

I-c " G p. po. '"E'd by counsel.

1,. 1 < e ·:x: nk that it was pei;haps prepared

• ; I '"d not h.:.ve access to Smith

, t ·n· t nt ::.oun el woul1 have available

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U i· d St~tes 4cportc

M ru::. 10 ,rs: Thh, mo 'io was prepared by counsel.

Q By counnel? Yes, r r. \1heaton.

·, .• ; NOLDS · Yes, Your l!onor.

0 ut h- cei:s out a:i.1 sorts of reasons in suppo1·t

i l th . i.o t_·y this m;:in ot~ld be .:o deny his right

C, y ·,ria , :md h .:is!:ed that the indict:ment therefore

. . • 1 e 1..., ... l ,. ., •

on y,, r 1 ltion"'liza-c::i.on, the dis::.?"ict court faced

i ·' .n t £ 1' J.c. , .. y Y"S. ,,·1d even if you agreed that to

.. .

t oula b • ~ .. !';L..ll of his consi.:ii:u-l:iont\l r5.ght to n

t ,._~, ... tL.. your n1tionaliz t ·on the district court

- l l , "You ,:rt\ ... going to bt:; tried.'

.. st ~ t ... to cou~to of app~als in this

0 d by the c:iecii::5.ons of this Court.

'1ic. Ccu t • .nncticns. And \lhnt may be

1 n . •c' iviaual c::ne as to what the court of

e

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1 n · nc1.i. vidu,,l case is ~ ething quite

j ce ·to dis1:~·icl courts vtllo are

,i~. intlictroents by rea on oi a

. 1

t.'l· t <li~tric~ court do?

to,or, T think a district court

r~c ucn s prejudice,

~ a, nd including

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.., . c iJ ,· ... ejt'.Gices d1.sct1 ~ed in Marien and Wingo and to

i; • c.;n ,:I i b<'- -ls of wh;:it is claimed wheth~r or 11ot you

ca 1 ·. rop ... ·, .;ei..y c1r:e thc:o prejudice by granting relief

J a. r o :.,.stj.c '·h .. n di::;missal.

P The denial is of a constitutional right, and

'o h ,c a ··.ig.1t uot 1:o .be t:ried except in a speedy trial;

l

·'"I •• t n corr(.;ct?

i,i. REi.:•!OLDS: •~h;:it is correc'I:.

Q lio\, couJ.d , . di-;·:~:dct judge, agreeing with the

t' z .l,.ir.1 -~hat to t::y :1im would be a denial of a

p tr.iul, he., can he deny the motion? And that is what

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t.e1::.ing v.~ h c:1:ght t.o do.

R ·:_.,_.1.1'.0,,DS. !om: Honor, I think that district

c - , w , n /Ou have a denial of a constitutional

c~<:e to go ::o trial and they remedy it by

.. ~ ., e -lusionary rule is one example where you

V .t

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Q ... a di$trict judge agreed that to try you

\

re to p ~ JOU t:,io" in jeopardy, he llhould

. \.

;:. ✓CU l: trif'd a,1d ses how it comes out?

RE·· or

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.:>, becau~e I think that you are

.:\udice in that situ.1tion or a

· , c u 1;011:ifossion---~1ell, let me -&xclude

· :a'· is a little d:l.ff::orent

t·,1:dug about a situation where

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cc d i:cectly to ?heti1 ::. or not the defendant

'ta.i.. l:'11 : ~i·. trial clnd--

,.1 !lo. Dci,l>le jeopardy has nothing to do with

Iu,. P.E:'✓,ICLDS: Whether or not it would, whether

·1t 1 i: 1ir1 e!is I cald pe:cmi t putt;ing this man to trial

1 i.mc 1.-u.: ·i.:he ~£:foe offense. :£ thir,1" thcd.: what we

n u 'o .. l'L!~C is th~t there it'.• no fundamental

.. 'x.ie,·s t.1«t l:ould proclu.ie t;:ying t..l'ii.s man, if

· ri c ,_,-. · .1, on).:r p::ej 1dj c~ that he claims he suffered

'h

v n, im .:ic,1_t:.,:i.r.g less drastic than dismissal of the

,_ f- l·••

• '1 :". J.l stiJ.1 puzzled as to what dist:r.ict courts

, 1 , tv 1o ·. ·: your position pr.evai ls.

• . . IBiNU,'.,D3: We r::. no,: talking about oome broad

,Y: :o I to the remedy o:.: dismissal. 'vlhat we are

• :oyt ir a c 6e here that presents a £actual

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x,. r. ·i?" ~ a ~e ._dy less drastic than disrnit;sal,

bv h cou.:t of appeals. And uo think

·· t·~ t' "i d. llc think that 1.t may ,1ell

C . '\: Ii 1 '.',c ju::tified. As a ge.1erE1l

• :-c_onz you will have the type

ii th t till no:: permit the less

h' it i:-- for the di.strict court to

h ·-o ake the ad hoc

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t .:ic, pr.:·~ · to tr5.a ... o, the basis of the factors

:i.n Wi ~go a~ i.:o wh.~t.hs~· there is a .:i:?eedy trial

Vi lLt:i 0 .•

1,l ,:!: • R!:.y;.olcis, tell me what happens if a

mo ·ic-n ,:; r.m,,~ to di:::m'.ss the indic'l:.'Tlen•;;: on grounds of denial

o·: ~-: ( q ..:·•:: ,1; the ccv •·c conclndes yes, it ,1ac. been dc1,ied

b t Lo t t · eJ. any.•1"1 • Jl.nc. i:i: you ia.l'."e convicted, what?

th •' · ·; su 90:-o~d to tul:e it into account in fixing

' (. r: :!'NO::,:;s: No, Your llonor. What we are

.,:,,,;i ... ;· -

Q 'l'ake ~,hat is likely to be the ordinary

... • r .e claim is-·-this is before there has been a

· - t '· l:c ; G b_ ,n denied a speedy trial. The trial

you n·vc b.::en denied a speedy trial but

· ._; , ' ,; 3 ,c, ·o ~r:."·"· Iri. that ci:ccumstance where he

11 i. qo "'h .ad and ,, to trial and he is convicted, then

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fl'D .•"'S ·£ t'1in!;: that that 'hOUld be

rnlc · that ~,e are sug,)'esting here.

, g that the rer.!edy is determined

·· re o.i: ~he prejudice claim<'?d and shown •

~~ ·.:'1is is allowing district courts

.·:.1. _ question, although I ·i:hink--

p .: in v -hew i.n 'i:he situation I

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h a < t ic J g ?

R£ 0 C , b 1 · ve,

ti • f ~,ecdy tri l t:.,1ti.J. fter -cr:..a• if

q i.on on t

, no. y h 1-'0the

i: ,e dy trici_. Wh .: to do?

r at.ion to ii mi t, indict nt · or

y ~riu1.

T : A'la h- do 'lC•t , c l h

y , I ll, VO~ t ve b rd d a

t:1i k ,ou ought 0 ,o 0 t , nyway. .. l)C • ~. .!I:' going Q dii:r g r, Lt. I thinl:

r ro ,: ~ ter in tion by t,1 di trict

it's position then in any

t • i~ a mo ion to dir,miQs t:he indictment,

o· sp eey trial, and the district judge

~ ha~ b n ad niol of speedy trial,

t·v cxc_pt to Qimniss?

s l r. as to what is the

~ oy tri 1 violation.

to a set off ctors.

t his ry ca , becauso

d by th t.ri 1

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I e ,,en ..:o t::i'11.

:tt. RE!dOL S: I think that the trial judge in this

could have e:i:fected the same remedy ·i;hat the court of

epp :'!11s d·id here.

Q he c::mld only ha'Je done it, though, could he

t, by ho·., ing t:1a>.: thc:.:e 11a., no deniaJ. of a speedy trial?

,iR. Ri:. .. NCLDS: Ho' I think that he could have held

i;h<.i: ue ,.;, 11. :.iJ.J.o:~ thi··· case to go to trial. r find a

con:it.i. tution. l \"' ol --cion, but that viol.i.tion can be fully

cur ~c1 by gi 'li,ig ·he p;;-i tionei.· ho:ce, the defendant, credit

on '1 '·evr>:,: tc_• •. tcnc..., he gets in the event of a corwiction.

:: could nncJ0rstcu:d, Mr, Reynolds, your

C"i ion · ~ you TL'l:''' :iaying that the district judge reached

, o c l · on th~t- .:'.1i,:, is a very close question, and I can-

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, .;:: ... _ ,· "I cannot decide it right now. I am

1 . ) ··--... JO tO rial. And if r conclude that there

- . >: ). .1 bout tha cai;c, perhaps deal with this remedial

J·t if yo1 have this remedial device as an auto-

" , Ji __ ,::.t:'.,c, a..:e yc1., r..ot going to have a lot of

.. .. , ',out d1.:!:::.aing the basic constitutional question?

Th<1t basic constitutional question

c-i b<i '.:i.,,;;,J th0 sans: ••ay as th5.s Court suggested

r ,._ •• . - ~ -

1 . ' ;_ t . -. coi1s i:: i. tutional--I run sorry.

., -,l ·::, :,_pc1 r, dT'd than I will ask you

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,LOS: I ,j I .• r. i::; that I think that the

't ..... the ccu:ct. ii: it finds a vio:'.at-ion under the

t the district court can cu:ce that

by e: cluclir.g Che evidence o.ntl allowing the case to

1. r ·•:.nk ·.n -~his case, if the di!.itrict court

.I tl• 1 1c·nC" o..: U:c facto::s in L:::!l'.'kcr v. Wingo

rn.iy h .ve a constitutional

~ 1 • . .i.01 ,

1es ,;1 i: there :::re ,1Ulti..ple

r t "· dcni o' a ,a;'cec 'y ti:ial and not ju3t one

r, .•• OI, C: That is :::-ight, Your llo:1or. i:n an

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b remedy other than dismissal.

or is anything in ~h Consfl.tution

1 o tt c only remed. •

i '> c '"~. edy can there, b·• other than

r, 0£ ru eliore::.:ion of th pencllty

t

,

n1 t other al rnative is

r o.y tha

o·ng :o ~ the u u l ituation,

c. Th~ usual situation is

Justice Stewart, is it .. s b en denio~ a speedy

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,;. , ... o · g to make ,.ction to Jismic:s the ii1dict-

. _1 ~. i~ th · a~l .... SC' that is going ::o co e up •

i?.. RB And t,.~e~e is going to be a factual

h€' ·: ·.ng on 1:hat oi• ·.:.he basis--

Q . . thexe is going to be a de::ermination that

Ct_ ..... h<\s 1::een a dcnJ.:11 of a sp"'edy trial. nhat you are

.ii .. _ '1 c u. ~- ':h• • r .'.:h .:: th.:m oiG"lisaal, there may be

o ' :;i•.::.1,:.1: ·.:.y i:,. ·· • j,,~n.:s which rill perrni'.: the coui:t

o: c...·. 1'N ... v-•.1.-h'"''"c~r;, go \:O t•·ial. 11 But uha.t is he going

o .._,,:c1J.r.? "~cu have been denied your

,. } . . n :"C"I ~ · '., '1. ': .:.o a speedy t:r.iul , and I ar.1 going to

. · i +, •--J:,c .1, i~ .,_ am not going to dismiss the

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fVl !t:. .. · l I .,

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rt is iiai:d in the abs<· ilCt to talk

n ,.o:: :iuzt say that a j11dge could

-:,"ju<li".:-. to yo'1i: t.rial, to your

c:'lcn5.ec' thr.; right z.o , oncur and if

.• ••: 1::. il,St give you a shorter

~ ,, "? ·111y co you llOt jus-c say that?

\.i that oJ: no·c?

'l'la _ ·.s whnt I have baen trying to

' etc Br _)l/lan cried to get away

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Ye c" o:: s,y ·chat if th" co,1sti tutional

, _igh·'; . ot u be t•::'.ed; i::: that no.: correct?

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E .. c S!>t in a i:.µeocly tria.._. Is that not the

.; ~ · t. ,~ c'is ~ic~ ~110.ge hc.ve he is convinced that

.\ n{1 p.. j e.'.ce h::, taken place since the

~nt ·:c ,.,{: t.o Oiomi~s? '11he right is a right not to

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.U,~NOt,DS: Bu'i: I do not. ·-:hink, Your Honor,

- 'I.:' tt,ti.o.1al r;_ght :i.s an cllsolute one that

r; •·s •. ~. of the indict:7,ent whenever a violation

1. , o·: .,;;-_. t cf the purpose, ·though, been .::o

0 D'i ; ,... --~ right.

, t ": ·"11 pU".'r:>') c is to p ·event an

r a i· right. Bu~ if you h ve

(.) c..lV'.:! •--

~e o~ them, oppressive

y ) udice to a fair trial?

, e circumstances,

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. -, j_f ~OU hav a d 1and by tre dCCU C.:'i and it was

'I t. ~r .. - a,J~, . .. ould be p rhr.3 the ,

:c. t 't t " • in .. hui:. situation •

0 • yo l ti,J(..;,,:li:ig that .::inc':~ thL:? only prejudice

'01:. d con ;.v\: ly rc.;ult in a Smij:h ~- Hoc·~v type or

i· o:i: c, ... o g ~.:> to tl.':' length of con.i:inem nt, that

... ~icu?. "'~ C < ~ you ce.!:ve out a cpeci2l i:em~dy and

• the c1~1c,,y bf :.:his speci~l ::emedy; is that

... ., .........

• .'. 1,.-.,:., OLns: Y:..~, Yem: Honor, tha·.: is l1hat we

n ·h ... t ,:,c~ucil situation that ·chis remedy is an

•.:ic. :;, cno -i.,c! t.h.-it it do s cu:ce the preju1icc

£h h ,.,~ i1.•he::cnL in you:: ,~osj.tion is the idea .... (.;..._.. t"'

<-'!-' ' • , • t1C~'lY \.hich oze not quite

' .• u -I .... ·-·· •ght -:, be r?rnc-clicd,

.. :~.... ... t th .... .ii C

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.'0 ,, ...,'1 t, of course, goes back i:o

..., , ., nt, t-!r.. Ju-:.:b.c!c' i3rennar, that

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· t•r .; on ,Ms one whe:-e • ·I think

1 '1_:a(?. thut the cou.:-ts ,1ould not have

l · · t.:·1 on l:he fr,cts of ti.is cu;1e.

• ct i.y \11:.:; Et 3peedy trial

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) cifc , ).Jy. dr. n•yilold.,, J. ha•,e forgo'.:ten,

'O i.~ · r e.... j r;es r, th~- huving been a

-. c.i :., , l oi e j 1 J:ic-L n .?

• , 0£ J i;c-,, Y,,ur l:ono:c, it does not.

_ :!.. the :i;i.:-:-zt tin,..! it has ever happened?

-· 'NOl.DS; l do not knotl of any. And I think

, • ., n o .,~ one o.i:: the main reasons wl1y we had

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~,~ of the things that concerns ma, if what

o ng tu ' ecome the r,\le, wha·:;: happens i.n

t - ·:;. J?O .i..t " ist::icts w:.cre motions are heard

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fi. ~- ncni.aJ. of <,peedy +-r .al i-1:self is

t 1.!l tau to oentent:1"?

· he ~udqc \-.ho he.:.::.;; ~he motion--

;c:·l:.r c, ---llarJ orde i;,.l that there

, h t .. entencing ji.dq • ,;ould have

,;: re 1d by it, would lie?

v {or- ponsnl

n a~ he.iring ,. motion binc' the

h .. s .:ule is a mntter of

• to -edrecs t~is speedy trial

.,,y i .:o gi vc him credit

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inding as a

t w,,ulc1 b . binding n th.a trial

o i:h~, mne c.: . t. ti1a1; a rul:i.r·g i:or er.eluding evidence

,1c.ulcl be binc'.ing on the tri.;il judge j ~c.CT~ en a ,.o;; ·

Q :r.t ·.s . lot difi'erent from interfering with a

n gc' • ::\L.c • · j on t.o vcn i:"'nce. I do no; see how

-~• :lE'.NOI.D' : I thi.nk hc::c you have go·i: a ruling--

Q .. thi · it ;_s a techn5.c;:,_li·ty, but I jur-t do

-I<. RELIOI.DS: ! "-;'1 -i.nk they would be ::iound by the

, -\."t•; ~ul ·t,11 . .:..n.., o.C the distric·C. judge who heard

C~- ~. · al..1 · ~,...: SU.l."e that th:ts ~emedy and

is c. .. w ..... -~ht v~ some of the discussion has

!._ ' l\.J '! pr c : c11 m •. ti·er, ii the Sevend, Circuit

u 'h ·~ i -!-· •• _,.is <.d.r:cre-cion, is ,:here no·i: some

. , < 4 it . t h .· ·e :·:aund there uus 110 speedy

( ,.?

It :i.n<'lic.'.!tes 1:hat that i.:; one of

.. _ ·", fe·eling t.'iat the ~emedy is so

no·' :o fir.c1 a specC::y trial violation.

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tle l •ith th .. ,nbjeci: in ,igri': o:.: B3i.·.,c,: \. t,inc;o and that

:ibil .- ty it did devise a .:emcdy which uas

,'1 ntcd on t..11.:i basi oi: the prejudice here.

.. J ·:.•~t'Sd.

T1'11,1k :;ou.

•-'-' . Cu..;r:P JUST!Cl, llTJRGER: Thank you, Mr. Reynolds.

n Y"U hove anyth.i.. .g further?

w::o£Il(J.S: No.

Im. CHIEF ,:rUSTIC2 BUF.GER: Very well, the case is

(ll!Lrcupon, at 11:58 o'clock a.m., the· cass was

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