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Day 5 – Friday 2 November Evidence of Ronnie Fraser Mark Osborn cross- examined by Matthew Purchase MP Pete Green incident. The chair asked him to withdraw his statement? MO after heated exchange between me and Green the chair eventually intervened… MP Political view? MO He is a political animal but his politics are disgusting, foul. MP You believe it’s foul to believe Zionism is racist. MO Same as saying that all English football fans are racist; same as saying that all Zionists are racist. MP The notion that Zionism is racist is adopted by UN. MO I don’t have relationship with UN. I’m bothered by the far left, I am a member of the far left. MP You’re making assumptions about source of Green’s belief. MO SWP have been responsible for making propaganda on this question which has helped to create a situation where Jews have left union. It’s not just a political view. It’s beyond a chat, it’s targeting people in a way that demonises people in the union and left. MP On basis of their identification with a political ideology. MO Almost all Jews are Zionists and almost all Zionists are Jews. A minority of Jews are not. MP Is it outrageous to criticise Israeli policy? MO No. The question is what intention…virtually everyone in that room felt that Israel has no right to exist. Motions endorsed Hamas… MP … Did you and Pete Green have friendly conversation after debate? MO no. MP You accept that Green is a Jewish member… and his opinions however unpleasant were political MO there’s politics and politics. If he has a view doesn’t make it reasonable to target Jews. The vast majority of Jews are Zionist and identify with Jews in some sense

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  • Day 5 Friday 2 November Evidence of Ronnie FraserMark Osborn cross- examined by Matthew PurchaseMP Pete Green incident. The chair asked him to withdraw his statement?MO after heated exchange between me and Green the chair eventually intervened MP Political view? MO He is a political animal but his politics are disgusting, foul. MP You believe its foul to believe Zionism is racist. MO Same as saying that all English football fans are racist; same as saying that all Zionists are racist. MP The notion that Zionism is racist is adopted by UN. MO I dont have relationship with UN. Im bothered by the far left, I am a member of the far left. MP Youre making assumptions about source of Greens belief.MO SWP have been responsible for making propaganda on this question which has helped to createa situation where Jews have left union. Its not just a political view. Its beyond a chat, its targeting people in a way that demonises people in the union and left. MP On basis of their identification with a political ideology. MO Almost all Jews are Zionists and almost all Zionists are Jews. A minority of Jews are not. MP Is it outrageous to criticise Israeli policy? MO No. The question is what intentionvirtually everyone in that room felt that Israel has no right to exist. Motions endorsed Hamas MP Did you and Pete Green have friendly conversation after debate? MO no.MP You accept that Green is a Jewish member and his opinions however unpleasant were politicalMO theres politics and politics. If he has a view doesnt make it reasonable to target Jews. The vastmajority of Jews are Zionist and identify with Jews in some sense