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Page 1: March 7-22, 1975 - Kissinger's Trip - Vol. I (1) · 2012-02-24 · KISStNGER TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST March 7 - 22, 1975 . r . The President Trip Book . Vol. I. Scanned from the Kissinger

KISStNGER TRIP TO THE

MIDDLE EAST

March 7 - 22 1975 r The President Trip Book Vol I

Scanned from the Kissinger Reports on USSR China and Middle East Discussions (Box 3 - March 7-22 1975 - Kissingers Trip - Vol I (1)) at the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library

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KISSINGER TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST

March 7 - 22 1975

Chronology

March 7 1975

middot Checklist for Egypt

March 8 1975

middot HAK Sadat MeITlcon 11 00 a ITl

March 9 1975

bull Report to the President bull HAKKhaddaITl MeITlcon 1155 a ITl - 1230 p ITl bull HAK Asad MeITlcon 315 - 7 30 p ITl middot HAK KhaddaITl MeITlcon 7 30 - 8 00 p ITl bull Report to the President bull Checklists for Israel

HAK Rabin MeITlcon 10 30 - 11 55 p ITl

March 10 1975

bull Checklist for Israel HAK Rabin MeITlcon 10 02 a ITl - 1 00 p ITl

bull Report to the President

March II 1975

bull HAKRabin MeITlcon 1010 - 1140 p ITl bull Report to the President

March 12 1975

bull Checklist for Israel bull HAKRabin MeITlcon 1013 a ITl - 1215 p ITl middot Checklists for Egypt

HAKSadat MeITlcon 630 - 945 pITl- shyDECLtSSFiED

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March 13 1975

middot HAKSadat Merncon 700 - 950 prn middot Report to the President

March 14 1975

middot Report to the President middot Checklists for Israel middot HAKRabin Merncon 110 - 345 p rn bull Report to the President

March 15 1975

middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 12 02 - 12 35 p rn middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 200 - 235 p rn middot HAK Asad Merncon bull HAK Khaddarn Merncon 645 - 715 p rn middot Report to the President middot Checklist for Jordan bull HAKHussein Merncon 830 - 845 p rn middot HAKHussein Merncon (dinner) 915 - 1115 p rn

March 16 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKHussein Merncon 1000 - 1155 a rn middot HAK Rabin Merncon 6 07 - 1007 p rn middot Report to the President

March 17 1975

middot HAK Rabin Merncon 1015 - 11 30 a rn middot Checklist for Egypt bull HAK Sadat Merncon 645 - 9 00 p rn

March 18 1975

bull Report to the President bull HAK Sadat Merncon 1145 a rn - 215 p rn

Report to the President Checklist for Israel HAK Rabin Merncon 710 - 945 p rn

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~ March 19 1975

bull HAKRabin Memcon 845 - 1020 a m bull Report to the President

Checklist for Saudi Arabia middot HAKYamani Memcon 225 - 255 p m bull HAKFahd Memcon 300 - 425 pm bull HAK Faisal Memcon 4 30 - 5 30 p m middot Report to the President

March 20 1975

middot HAKRabin Memcon 950 a m - 1235 p m middot Report to the President bull HAK Rabin Memcon 5 30 - 645 p m bull Report to the President middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKSadat Memcon 905 - 1145 p m

March 21 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKRabin Memcon 145 - 400 p m middot Checklist for Israel middot HAK Rabin Memcon 1010 p m - 1210 a m

March 22 1975

bull Report to the President bull Checklist for Israel bull HAK Rabin Memcon 6 35 - 815 p m bull HAKRabin Memcon 10 35 p m - 1205 a m

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CHRONOLOG Y OF DECISIVE PHASE OF THE NEGOTIATION

Thur sday March 13

650 - 950 p m

Fridav March 14

1210 p m

110 - 345 p m

400 p m

Saturday March 15

1200 Noon

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Meeting with Sadat __ Sadatagrees (1) all disputes will be resolved by peaceful means (2) this is not a final step but a sjgnificant step towards peace (3) non-resort to force for duration of agreement (4) valid until superseded by another agreement (5) no linkage to Syria (6) annual renewal of UNEF (7) some jOint cornmissions in buffer zone 8 some selective de facto easing of boycott and other practices

Sadat wants some forward movenent of Egyptian line Garnasy proposes balanced disposition of forces after Egypti~ line moves forward

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Arrive Jerusalem

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- HAK reports Sadats proposals saying that if he can go back with basic cone epts settled Sadat would probably be flexible on other points

Dan Pattir backgrounder calls Egyptian proposals at first sight insufficient and unsatisfactory middotmiddotmiddoto

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Arrival Damascus

Arrival Arnman

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Sunday March 16

11orning HAK in Amman while Israeli Cabinet zneetsL 200 p m

6 00 - 10 00 P n1

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1015 - 11 30 a m

300 p m

7 00 - 845 p m

1045 p m - 1215 a m

Arrive Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

HAK foresees bre~-up~~__ ~ __ _

Meetirg with Negotiating Team

-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

Depart for Aswan

1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

Tuesday March 18

1145 a m - 2 30 p m

300 pm

715 - 945 p m

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t~middot WednesdaYe March 19

845 - 1020 a m

1l00 a m - 200 p m

6 30 p m - 1 30 a m

Meeting with Sadat -- Sadat agrees (1) IIMideast crisis will be solved bullbullbull by peaceful meal SII (2) assurances to USG in agreement not to resort to force (3) agreement valid until superseded (4) Geneva will not interfere with agreement He is prepared to drop linkage to peace process Passes should be in UN zonel

with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

Israeli Cabinet Meets

Israeli Cabinet Meets

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Thursday March 20

9 50 - 1235 p In

100- 300 p m

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645 p In

1000 pm - Midnight

Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

-- Israelis report results of yesterdays 10 hcu rs of Cabinet meetings (1) No chage in Israels non-use of force proposal (2) On duration still insist on cOmmitment even indirect on certain number of years (3) Line is in middle of the passes (4) 3-party management for Abu Rudeis (5) No increase in Egyptian forces now on East bank Rabin admits he told Cabinet this mean t 98 chance of break-up

-- HAK sees not the slightest attempt to deal with any of the points madebullbullbullbullovermany montns II He reads talking points approved by Pre sident Ford

Israeli Cabinet Meets

Meeting with Negotiating Team bull -- Cabinet agrees on (1) modification of non-us e of force provision (eliminating specific details of ~~ non-belligerency) which HAK believes is Hdoahie (2) No change in line s (3) Oil fields as civilian enclave and (4) Egypt must commit itself to renew -

UNEF at least 3 or 4 time$ -- --~ - - ~ -

-- HAK tells Isr~elis he sees no chance of his a~cmiddotepting this line

Depart for Aswan

Meeting with Sadat

-- Sadat accepts Israeli formulation on non-use d forceJ minus phrases about assistaDce II bull

Sadat rejects line through Inidyene of passesI proposes that each side be at entrancewitb UN occupying passes Re~ oil fie1dsJ Sadat rejects enclave and proposes demilitarized UN- supervised zone under Egyptian civil administration He proposes increase in numb~r of Egyptian forces on East bank from the present 71 000

11eeting with Sadat (conti1ued)

Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

Friday March 21

1010 a m

145 - 400 pm

430 - 930 pm

1010 pm - Midnight

Depart Aswan

Meeting wi th Negotiating Team -- HAllt reports Sadatl s counter-proposals Rabin says he would be unwilling to recommend this to the Cabinet IIBecause I believe Israel cannot in present circumstances in return for what is offered agree to withdraw fromJhepasses and from the oil fields and accept Egyptian Inovement forward of the blue line shy

Israeli Cabinet Meets -- Presidents letter to Rabin arrives and is read to Cabinet shy

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- Cabinet decision was basically to reaffirm its previous position Israelis prefel that no suspelshysion be announced but that negotiating teams reconvene 600 pm Saturday

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1035 p~ 1205 a rn

1100 p In

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Cable to Aswan asking if there are tany aspects of the Egyptian position that they have not revealed~ on duration and early warning stations

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Meeting with Negotiating Team -- No change in Israeli position

Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

Announcement of suspension

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to see if there has been any further refinement or evolution of Egyptian thinking as reflected in the paper Fahmy gave you on the last trip (Tab A) bull

to in~icate to Sadat what you think is the minishy

um required to get an agreement

- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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he issues in the negotiation are

the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

- there are two key procedural questionsl

should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

-- should the Syrian linkage be covered in I the Egyptian-Israeli agreement itself or i in a side US-Egyptian understanding bullI

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the duration of th~ agreement which has several aspects

-- how ~xpressed in the agreement ~ open-ende~

or for a specified period

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annual rather than six month renewals

how deal with Israeli desire for a specified period during which there will be no more withshy

drawal on the Egyptian front

the non-belligerency issue

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- public commitment to observe ceasefire while j negotiations continue

- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

I uerusalem -- You intend to give the Israelis 2 gour ideas the points contained in Fahmys paper

inus the following

- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

this is something to be handled in a US~shyEgyptian side understanding_

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A sepa ate che~klist of bilateral issues is in yourfolder bull

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

adat-Fords Egypt will not attack Israel

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SLIENT POINTS RELATED TO A SECOND DISENGAGEMENT A~ 7S I

fy( ~ I AGREEMENT BETWEEN EGYPT AND ISRAEL

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i- The agreement should include total withdrawal of

Israeli forces to the east of the p~sses and from all ~

the oilfields including the town of El Tor

2-1 The IsraeLi withdrawal will be implemented in such I I

a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

I or jranSfered from their present location either to Israel

01 he remaining occupied part of Sinai

I he United N~tions Zone will be subject of agreement

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I 411 ~e thinning of ~ces and thei~ strength~ll ~e t~

Slrect of mutual agreement

51 ~he agreement should have as an annex a fixed time-table I I

indicating the various phases of the implementation of the illl

agreement bearing in mind that the full implementation I

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be terminated within two months of the signature of the

i~ agreement and that Egypt receives all oi1fi81ds within

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two weeks of the signing

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which the mandate of UNEF will be extended annually as j

lO~p as this agreement is valid and efforts towards a

just and peaceful settlement continue lt

7shy gypt and Israel are ready to reactivate the Egyptian-

Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

Mixed Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

alibged violations by the parties to the present disen-II

garime~t agreement j

8-~hOUld Israel give a formal guarantee or assurance in

wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake 1 I I

111l t l t t t dml Ii ary or parlml l ary opera lons lgalns Syrla im 6middot I

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pa+ is ready to give to the United States Government a

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parrmi1itary operations against Israel However should j

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be terminated within two months of the signature of the

L- agreement and that Egypt receives all oilfields within

two weeks of the signing

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which the mandate of UNEF will be extended annually as J

lOpasthis agreement ~s valid and effort~ towards a

jUS[ and peaceful settlent continue ~

7shy gypt and Israel are ready to reactivate the Egyptian- I

ISfreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

MiX~d Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

~ II all~ged violations bythe p~rties to the pre~ent disenshy

I garlme~t agreement

8- ~hOUld Israel give a formal guarantee or assurance i~ I I i I

wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake I I I

mii~tary or parlmilitary operations against Syria lnd I

Eg jtQIUring the duration of this agreemen0 Egypt on ita

pli+ is ready to give to the United States Government a I bull

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parrmilitary operations against Israel However should

Iampr~el attac~ Syria Egypt will not be bound by th~8 Iimiddot I

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agreement but will fulfill its obligation towards syria

l~r In addition Egypt if attacked by Iarael will exeroise ita oF

r i 9ht toll self-defence under article S1 of the UN Charter

middotG- Should Israel give solemn assurances to the United State

that it will engage itsself in an active process of negoti shy

ations with a view to reach a second Disengagement agreement

onithe Syrian front and if the President of the United States I

gi~es his assurances tOPresident Sadat that the United stat I

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

to Igive to President Ford his assurances that Egypt will not

vi11ate the Disengagement Agreement reached between

Isxael as long as the efforts pertaining to further pr09ress

It~ards a just and durable peace are continuing t7

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lO~I Moreover Egypt is prepared to go to Geneva to dis~uss Iwitlt the parties concerned the conditions for a final just

an~1 durable peaceful solution provided that the Palestini~~~ i

ref~esentat~ves be invited to take part in the discussions

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12- Furthermoreand as a demonstration of its continuing

~ efforts towards a peaceful settlement Egypt would contin

the process of the reconstruction of the Suez Canal area 1

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~ of the present Disengagement Agreement

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bnls~me ~merican firms ~ and that on ~ selective basis _

lhtt they CQuld reBu~e theiractivitie in Egypt ThisI

ornmittment would be given in the form of an oral under-

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1 egypt aud btucl wo1J commit themselves to contli1uo

called tor 17 the UN Security CooncU and rcfra11 from all i

llo~itHc ~ctioib n~ainst one Anothor

2 There would lie a tiltPmc-nt in the Agreement tllollt 1 i

o 1GUtUtC 4 further step towarus peace and dJat funher

o oaaLons to this ltd would 1gt0 unJermkcn by tIlo two sidesfImiddot Tho mHlury fOA7CCu of Egypt anll Israel wIll 00 dCploicU

tn ccoldancc -v1th the followln~ principlesI

j 11 All egyptian [oreca wIll be dcploycQ wet of ello Uno

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I b AU IGrcH forces wIll he dC~loycd caGe of the Une I

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1tiOnlng of t110 UnIted Natio-1G Emorg~ncy I-oreo (UNEF) in

~Iar between Uno A and UnC non tile attached roap 0 II

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4 I Both sioea would arrcc th1t U10 sizo of tbe force would

~li=amped and procedures for inspectIon will 1gt0 strcngtllcnOll

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oilccl w~ti1 the UN ~nd the cstabUuhmcnt of l1xod conlmisamp1ons

to assist lJNEF in Its SUpclvItiory rolo

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c~rrOC woulJ bo pClmiddotmi~ccd throuZhmiddot the Suez Ulnal and tli4lt

I thfjO would b~ no dlscrlmln~tlon as to tho nationality of t~I crmiddot VQ 01 thirJ party vessels

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~lt would apply to Israel loG pan ot a peaco ~cctlcmcnt

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~itbalMUdlJ Str~CG as aa ntanlltloool waterway for

411 o( aU flall acd that ncltllcr party WOiIklllitcrlcro

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12 There would bo Cl provision that the previous cUsengngement

agreement lIill be ~~Qred to except a8 altered by this

lLgrecmont

13 Thero would bo ploviaiona tor aerial vurvolUance or the

implCmentatlon or proccdurc~ in articles 3 4 and 5 i aides

14 There Would ulO bo Q proviaion that botlaBreo to BUpport

tJ ~ntinuance or tho W ownbl by one- period tor tIuI

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Dear Mr President

Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

achieved between Egy pt and Israel the United States

will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

Sinc~rely

Gerald R Ford

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I am informing yfJU th~t I hnve received Ilaaurencea from

1hp GovernO~nt of I~r~cl that in rurther~nee (pr tho proceas of

peae it dO~(I uot intend to at~ncK its Arab neighbors 08 long

as all (oncernen -bide ly the cet4sefirc )4esolution adopted by

the ~ecn~~ity Couucil lnili ampttack

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I note with satisfaction your statement that the i~ I pI rCf~S loading tvvvClrds a just and lasting peace in the

Middle Eolstwill continile and the statement by Israel ~ ~ tha tit ilas no inten tion of attacking its neighbors

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MEMORANDUM OF

PARTICIPANTS

SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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KISSINGER TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST

March 7 - 22 1975

Chronology

March 7 1975

middot Checklist for Egypt

March 8 1975

middot HAK Sadat MeITlcon 11 00 a ITl

March 9 1975

bull Report to the President bull HAKKhaddaITl MeITlcon 1155 a ITl - 1230 p ITl bull HAK Asad MeITlcon 315 - 7 30 p ITl middot HAK KhaddaITl MeITlcon 7 30 - 8 00 p ITl bull Report to the President bull Checklists for Israel

HAK Rabin MeITlcon 10 30 - 11 55 p ITl

March 10 1975

bull Checklist for Israel HAK Rabin MeITlcon 10 02 a ITl - 1 00 p ITl

bull Report to the President

March II 1975

bull HAKRabin MeITlcon 1010 - 1140 p ITl bull Report to the President

March 12 1975

bull Checklist for Israel bull HAKRabin MeITlcon 1013 a ITl - 1215 p ITl middot Checklists for Egypt

HAKSadat MeITlcon 630 - 945 pITl- shyDECLtSSFiED

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March 13 1975

middot HAKSadat Merncon 700 - 950 prn middot Report to the President

March 14 1975

middot Report to the President middot Checklists for Israel middot HAKRabin Merncon 110 - 345 p rn bull Report to the President

March 15 1975

middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 12 02 - 12 35 p rn middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 200 - 235 p rn middot HAK Asad Merncon bull HAK Khaddarn Merncon 645 - 715 p rn middot Report to the President middot Checklist for Jordan bull HAKHussein Merncon 830 - 845 p rn middot HAKHussein Merncon (dinner) 915 - 1115 p rn

March 16 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKHussein Merncon 1000 - 1155 a rn middot HAK Rabin Merncon 6 07 - 1007 p rn middot Report to the President

March 17 1975

middot HAK Rabin Merncon 1015 - 11 30 a rn middot Checklist for Egypt bull HAK Sadat Merncon 645 - 9 00 p rn

March 18 1975

bull Report to the President bull HAK Sadat Merncon 1145 a rn - 215 p rn

Report to the President Checklist for Israel HAK Rabin Merncon 710 - 945 p rn

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bull HAKRabin Memcon 845 - 1020 a m bull Report to the President

Checklist for Saudi Arabia middot HAKYamani Memcon 225 - 255 p m bull HAKFahd Memcon 300 - 425 pm bull HAK Faisal Memcon 4 30 - 5 30 p m middot Report to the President

March 20 1975

middot HAKRabin Memcon 950 a m - 1235 p m middot Report to the President bull HAK Rabin Memcon 5 30 - 645 p m bull Report to the President middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKSadat Memcon 905 - 1145 p m

March 21 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKRabin Memcon 145 - 400 p m middot Checklist for Israel middot HAK Rabin Memcon 1010 p m - 1210 a m

March 22 1975

bull Report to the President bull Checklist for Israel bull HAK Rabin Memcon 6 35 - 815 p m bull HAKRabin Memcon 10 35 p m - 1205 a m

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Thur sday March 13

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Fridav March 14

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Saturday March 15

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Meeting with Sadat __ Sadatagrees (1) all disputes will be resolved by peaceful means (2) this is not a final step but a sjgnificant step towards peace (3) non-resort to force for duration of agreement (4) valid until superseded by another agreement (5) no linkage to Syria (6) annual renewal of UNEF (7) some jOint cornmissions in buffer zone 8 some selective de facto easing of boycott and other practices

Sadat wants some forward movenent of Egyptian line Garnasy proposes balanced disposition of forces after Egypti~ line moves forward

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Arrive Jerusalem

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- HAK reports Sadats proposals saying that if he can go back with basic cone epts settled Sadat would probably be flexible on other points

Dan Pattir backgrounder calls Egyptian proposals at first sight insufficient and unsatisfactory middotmiddotmiddoto

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Arrival Arnman

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Arrive Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

HAK foresees bre~-up~~__ ~ __ _

Meetirg with Negotiating Team

-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

Depart for Aswan

1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

Tuesday March 18

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t~middot WednesdaYe March 19

845 - 1020 a m

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6 30 p m - 1 30 a m

Meeting with Sadat -- Sadat agrees (1) IIMideast crisis will be solved bullbullbull by peaceful meal SII (2) assurances to USG in agreement not to resort to force (3) agreement valid until superseded (4) Geneva will not interfere with agreement He is prepared to drop linkage to peace process Passes should be in UN zonel

with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

Israeli Cabinet Meets

Israeli Cabinet Meets

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Thursday March 20

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Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

-- Israelis report results of yesterdays 10 hcu rs of Cabinet meetings (1) No chage in Israels non-use of force proposal (2) On duration still insist on cOmmitment even indirect on certain number of years (3) Line is in middle of the passes (4) 3-party management for Abu Rudeis (5) No increase in Egyptian forces now on East bank Rabin admits he told Cabinet this mean t 98 chance of break-up

-- HAK sees not the slightest attempt to deal with any of the points madebullbullbullbullovermany montns II He reads talking points approved by Pre sident Ford

Israeli Cabinet Meets

Meeting with Negotiating Team bull -- Cabinet agrees on (1) modification of non-us e of force provision (eliminating specific details of ~~ non-belligerency) which HAK believes is Hdoahie (2) No change in line s (3) Oil fields as civilian enclave and (4) Egypt must commit itself to renew -

UNEF at least 3 or 4 time$ -- --~ - - ~ -

-- HAK tells Isr~elis he sees no chance of his a~cmiddotepting this line

Depart for Aswan

Meeting with Sadat

-- Sadat accepts Israeli formulation on non-use d forceJ minus phrases about assistaDce II bull

Sadat rejects line through Inidyene of passesI proposes that each side be at entrancewitb UN occupying passes Re~ oil fie1dsJ Sadat rejects enclave and proposes demilitarized UN- supervised zone under Egyptian civil administration He proposes increase in numb~r of Egyptian forces on East bank from the present 71 000

11eeting with Sadat (conti1ued)

Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

Friday March 21

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145 - 400 pm

430 - 930 pm

1010 pm - Midnight

Depart Aswan

Meeting wi th Negotiating Team -- HAllt reports Sadatl s counter-proposals Rabin says he would be unwilling to recommend this to the Cabinet IIBecause I believe Israel cannot in present circumstances in return for what is offered agree to withdraw fromJhepasses and from the oil fields and accept Egyptian Inovement forward of the blue line shy

Israeli Cabinet Meets -- Presidents letter to Rabin arrives and is read to Cabinet shy

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- Cabinet decision was basically to reaffirm its previous position Israelis prefel that no suspelshysion be announced but that negotiating teams reconvene 600 pm Saturday

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Fahrny replies negatively Break-off will mean rirrevocable and fatal blow to step by step process t

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- No change in Israeli position

Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

Announcement of suspension

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to in~icate to Sadat what you think is the minishy

um required to get an agreement

- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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annual rather than six month renewals

how deal with Israeli desire for a specified period during which there will be no more withshy

drawal on the Egyptian front

the non-belligerency issue

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

I uerusalem -- You intend to give the Israelis 2 gour ideas the points contained in Fahmys paper

inus the following

- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

this is something to be handled in a US~shyEgyptian side understanding_

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

adat-Fords Egypt will not attack Israel

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Israeli forces to the east of the p~sses and from all ~

the oilfields including the town of El Tor

2-1 The IsraeLi withdrawal will be implemented in such I I

a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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01 he remaining occupied part of Sinai

I he United N~tions Zone will be subject of agreement

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

Mixed Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

alibged violations by the parties to the present disen-II

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wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake 1 I I

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ISfreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

MiX~d Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

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wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake I I I

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l~r In addition Egypt if attacked by Iarael will exeroise ita oF

r i 9ht toll self-defence under article S1 of the UN Charter

middotG- Should Israel give solemn assurances to the United State

that it will engage itsself in an active process of negoti shy

ations with a view to reach a second Disengagement agreement

onithe Syrian front and if the President of the United States I

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

to Igive to President Ford his assurances that Egypt will not

vi11ate the Disengagement Agreement reached between

Isxael as long as the efforts pertaining to further pr09ress

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bnls~me ~merican firms ~ and that on ~ selective basis _

lhtt they CQuld reBu~e theiractivitie in Egypt ThisI

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just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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March 13 1975

middot HAKSadat Merncon 700 - 950 prn middot Report to the President

March 14 1975

middot Report to the President middot Checklists for Israel middot HAKRabin Merncon 110 - 345 p rn bull Report to the President

March 15 1975

middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 12 02 - 12 35 p rn middot HAKKhaddarn Merncon 200 - 235 p rn middot HAK Asad Merncon bull HAK Khaddarn Merncon 645 - 715 p rn middot Report to the President middot Checklist for Jordan bull HAKHussein Merncon 830 - 845 p rn middot HAKHussein Merncon (dinner) 915 - 1115 p rn

March 16 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKHussein Merncon 1000 - 1155 a rn middot HAK Rabin Merncon 6 07 - 1007 p rn middot Report to the President

March 17 1975

middot HAK Rabin Merncon 1015 - 11 30 a rn middot Checklist for Egypt bull HAK Sadat Merncon 645 - 9 00 p rn

March 18 1975

bull Report to the President bull HAK Sadat Merncon 1145 a rn - 215 p rn

Report to the President Checklist for Israel HAK Rabin Merncon 710 - 945 p rn

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bull HAKRabin Memcon 845 - 1020 a m bull Report to the President

Checklist for Saudi Arabia middot HAKYamani Memcon 225 - 255 p m bull HAKFahd Memcon 300 - 425 pm bull HAK Faisal Memcon 4 30 - 5 30 p m middot Report to the President

March 20 1975

middot HAKRabin Memcon 950 a m - 1235 p m middot Report to the President bull HAK Rabin Memcon 5 30 - 645 p m bull Report to the President middot Checklist for Egypt middot HAKSadat Memcon 905 - 1145 p m

March 21 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKRabin Memcon 145 - 400 p m middot Checklist for Israel middot HAK Rabin Memcon 1010 p m - 1210 a m

March 22 1975

bull Report to the President bull Checklist for Israel bull HAK Rabin Memcon 6 35 - 815 p m bull HAKRabin Memcon 10 35 p m - 1205 a m

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Meeting with Sadat __ Sadatagrees (1) all disputes will be resolved by peaceful means (2) this is not a final step but a sjgnificant step towards peace (3) non-resort to force for duration of agreement (4) valid until superseded by another agreement (5) no linkage to Syria (6) annual renewal of UNEF (7) some jOint cornmissions in buffer zone 8 some selective de facto easing of boycott and other practices

Sadat wants some forward movenent of Egyptian line Garnasy proposes balanced disposition of forces after Egypti~ line moves forward

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Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- HAK reports Sadats proposals saying that if he can go back with basic cone epts settled Sadat would probably be flexible on other points

Dan Pattir backgrounder calls Egyptian proposals at first sight insufficient and unsatisfactory middotmiddotmiddoto

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Arrive Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

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Meetirg with Negotiating Team

-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

Depart for Aswan

1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

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with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

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Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

-- Israelis report results of yesterdays 10 hcu rs of Cabinet meetings (1) No chage in Israels non-use of force proposal (2) On duration still insist on cOmmitment even indirect on certain number of years (3) Line is in middle of the passes (4) 3-party management for Abu Rudeis (5) No increase in Egyptian forces now on East bank Rabin admits he told Cabinet this mean t 98 chance of break-up

-- HAK sees not the slightest attempt to deal with any of the points madebullbullbullbullovermany montns II He reads talking points approved by Pre sident Ford

Israeli Cabinet Meets

Meeting with Negotiating Team bull -- Cabinet agrees on (1) modification of non-us e of force provision (eliminating specific details of ~~ non-belligerency) which HAK believes is Hdoahie (2) No change in line s (3) Oil fields as civilian enclave and (4) Egypt must commit itself to renew -

UNEF at least 3 or 4 time$ -- --~ - - ~ -

-- HAK tells Isr~elis he sees no chance of his a~cmiddotepting this line

Depart for Aswan

Meeting with Sadat

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11eeting with Sadat (conti1ued)

Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

Friday March 21

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Depart Aswan

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Meeting with Negotiating Team -- No change in Israeli position

Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

Announcement of suspension

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

I uerusalem -- You intend to give the Israelis 2 gour ideas the points contained in Fahmys paper

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- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

adat-Fords Egypt will not attack Israel

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the oilfields including the town of El Tor

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a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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01 he remaining occupied part of Sinai

I he United N~tions Zone will be subject of agreement

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

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alibged violations by the parties to the present disen-II

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~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

Sinc~rely

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MEMORANDUM OF

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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bull HAKRabin Memcon 845 - 1020 a m bull Report to the President

Checklist for Saudi Arabia middot HAKYamani Memcon 225 - 255 p m bull HAKFahd Memcon 300 - 425 pm bull HAK Faisal Memcon 4 30 - 5 30 p m middot Report to the President

March 20 1975

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March 21 1975

middot Report to the President bull HAKRabin Memcon 145 - 400 p m middot Checklist for Israel middot HAK Rabin Memcon 1010 p m - 1210 a m

March 22 1975

bull Report to the President bull Checklist for Israel bull HAK Rabin Memcon 6 35 - 815 p m bull HAKRabin Memcon 10 35 p m - 1205 a m

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Meeting with Sadat __ Sadatagrees (1) all disputes will be resolved by peaceful means (2) this is not a final step but a sjgnificant step towards peace (3) non-resort to force for duration of agreement (4) valid until superseded by another agreement (5) no linkage to Syria (6) annual renewal of UNEF (7) some jOint cornmissions in buffer zone 8 some selective de facto easing of boycott and other practices

Sadat wants some forward movenent of Egyptian line Garnasy proposes balanced disposition of forces after Egypti~ line moves forward

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Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- HAK reports Sadats proposals saying that if he can go back with basic cone epts settled Sadat would probably be flexible on other points

Dan Pattir backgrounder calls Egyptian proposals at first sight insufficient and unsatisfactory middotmiddotmiddoto

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Arrive Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

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Meetirg with Negotiating Team

-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

Depart for Aswan

1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

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with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

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Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

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Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

Friday March 21

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Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

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- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

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- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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MEMORANDUM OF

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LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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Meeting with Sadat __ Sadatagrees (1) all disputes will be resolved by peaceful means (2) this is not a final step but a sjgnificant step towards peace (3) non-resort to force for duration of agreement (4) valid until superseded by another agreement (5) no linkage to Syria (6) annual renewal of UNEF (7) some jOint cornmissions in buffer zone 8 some selective de facto easing of boycott and other practices

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Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

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-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

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1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

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with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

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Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

-- Israelis report results of yesterdays 10 hcu rs of Cabinet meetings (1) No chage in Israels non-use of force proposal (2) On duration still insist on cOmmitment even indirect on certain number of years (3) Line is in middle of the passes (4) 3-party management for Abu Rudeis (5) No increase in Egyptian forces now on East bank Rabin admits he told Cabinet this mean t 98 chance of break-up

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Israeli Cabinet Meets

Meeting with Negotiating Team bull -- Cabinet agrees on (1) modification of non-us e of force provision (eliminating specific details of ~~ non-belligerency) which HAK believes is Hdoahie (2) No change in line s (3) Oil fields as civilian enclave and (4) Egypt must commit itself to renew -

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Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

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Meeting wi th Negotiating Team -- HAllt reports Sadatl s counter-proposals Rabin says he would be unwilling to recommend this to the Cabinet IIBecause I believe Israel cannot in present circumstances in return for what is offered agree to withdraw fromJhepasses and from the oil fields and accept Egyptian Inovement forward of the blue line shy

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Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

Announcement of suspension

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

I uerusalem -- You intend to give the Israelis 2 gour ideas the points contained in Fahmys paper

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- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

this is something to be handled in a US~shyEgyptian side understanding_

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

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to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

achieved between Egy pt and Israel the United States

will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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MEMORANDUM OF

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TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

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cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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Sunday March 16

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Arrive Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team

-- Cabinet sees livery little in Sadats proposals on main pointS (1) Non-use of force is only slight variation on disengagement agreement and is conditioned on peace process (2) On mov ement towards peace nothing new (3) no assurance of duration and no insurarlce against Soviet veto of UNEF Unless he does more on these three key issues I dont see what can be done (Rabin)

For renunciation of acts of bellig~ ency or acts of war Israel will give either passes or oil fields but not both Gamasys proposal (balance of forces) couH be consideredbull

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Meetirg with Negotiating Team

-- Israel would leave passes and oil fields in exchange for renunciation of acts of belligerency and might cors ider Egyptian forces moving into present UN zone For non-use of force pledge Israel would pull back to western edge of passes and accept 3-party management of oil fields

-- Allan offers two strong formulations on renunciation of military paramilitary hostile__ and warlike actions and secondly permitting encouraging assisting or participatingU in same I

Depart for Aswan

1-1eeting with Sadat

-- Sadat rejects Allons formulations Ql non-use of force as going beyond non-belligerency

Meeting with Fahmy and Gamasy -- Fahmy says he will recommend new forrnshyulations on non-us e of force to Sadat tomorrow

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with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

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Meeting with Israeli Negotiating Team

-- Israelis report results of yesterdays 10 hcu rs of Cabinet meetings (1) No chage in Israels non-use of force proposal (2) On duration still insist on cOmmitment even indirect on certain number of years (3) Line is in middle of the passes (4) 3-party management for Abu Rudeis (5) No increase in Egyptian forces now on East bank Rabin admits he told Cabinet this mean t 98 chance of break-up

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Israeli Cabinet Meets

Meeting with Negotiating Team bull -- Cabinet agrees on (1) modification of non-us e of force provision (eliminating specific details of ~~ non-belligerency) which HAK believes is Hdoahie (2) No change in line s (3) Oil fields as civilian enclave and (4) Egypt must commit itself to renew -

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-- HAK tells Isr~elis he sees no chance of his a~cmiddotepting this line

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Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

Friday March 21

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Depart Aswan

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Meeting with Negotiating Team -- No change in Israeli position

Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

Announcement of suspension

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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annual rather than six month renewals

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

I uerusalem -- You intend to give the Israelis 2 gour ideas the points contained in Fahmys paper

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- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

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the oilfields including the town of El Tor

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to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

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re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

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with each sides forces at each entr ance No further concession on economic warfare

Depart for Tel Aviv

Meeting with Negotiating Team -- HAK reports that this is maximUIIl Sadat can do If it is accepted in princip1el rnaybe dr afting can be improved

Meeting with Negotiating TeaIrl -- Rabin says its II rnore thandoubtfu]u that Cabinet will accept Sadats position on the passe s

Secretarys Trip to Riyadh

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Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

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- paragraph 8 delete during theduration of this agreement in the assurances that neither side will initiate military or paramilitary

operations against the other III Ii - delete paragraph 9 on the Syrian linkage

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

illh f k~ord-Sadat Israe as no 1ntent1on 0 attac 1ng its neighbors (We believ this phrase should e changed to Syria and Egypt

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the oilfields including the town of El Tor

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a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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this time it is harder It i9 true

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

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re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

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Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

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to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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Sadat gives ora assurance to be conveyed to Israel that if Syria attacks Israel and this is confirmed by UN Egypt will not join

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Second Meeting with Negotiating Tecun

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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how deal with Israeli desire for a specified period during which there will be no more withshy

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

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to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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bnls~me ~merican firms ~ and that on ~ selective basis _

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

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in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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- to discuss with Sadat how ~ou envisage this trip volving and specificall~ how you intend to proshyeed in your initial stops in Damascus and Jerusashy

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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should Golan negotiations be conducted as before or at Geneva

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how deal with Israeli desire for a specified period during which there will be no more withshy

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

A key question here is whether Faisal can be persuaded to support the Sadat approach or will he th~ow his weight behind Asad What are Sadats views on Faisals position

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Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

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a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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bnls~me ~merican firms ~ and that on ~ selective basis _

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

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cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

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the linkage to a Syrian negotiation covering the ollowing hypothetical spectrum

commitment to a Golan agreement by a specific date

commitment not tomiddotimplement a Sinai agreement until a Golan agreement is reached

commitment to start Golan negotiations by a specific date but not holding up conclusion of a Sinai agreement

commitment to an all-out US effort to reach a Golan agreement after a Sinai agreement is achieved

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just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

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1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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or for a specified period

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- private US-Egyptian understanding that Egypt will not resume hostilities so long as Israel does not attack Egypt or Syria

3 ow you will proceed in Damascus and Jerusalem

- Damascus -- You will make a major effort to ersuade Asad that the only practical way to roceed and keep open possibilities for pro- ress on the Golan front is to first negotiate Sinai agreement You will also probe to see

hat is the minimum possible linkage that will eep Asad quiet

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Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

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Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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MEMORANDUM OF

PARTICIPANTS

SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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SBCRE~(NODIS 3

Attached for your reference are the following documentsl

Tab A The paper Fahmy gave you in Cairo We have bracketed the two portions you have said you want to omit in your first presentation middotto the Israelis

Tab B The listo~ points which we drafted in Cairo during the last visit We assume Fahmy is familiar with this

Tab C The three letters we drafted in Cairo during the last trip

I bullFord-Sadat us will continue its pe~ce efforts iincl uding Syria

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SLIENT POINTS RELATED TO A SECOND DISENGAGEMENT A~ 7S I

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i- The agreement should include total withdrawal of

Israeli forces to the east of the p~sses and from all ~

the oilfields including the town of El Tor

2-1 The IsraeLi withdrawal will be implemented in such I I

a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

I or jranSfered from their present location either to Israel

01 he remaining occupied part of Sinai

I he United N~tions Zone will be subject of agreement

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

Mixed Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

alibged violations by the parties to the present disen-II

garime~t agreement j

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wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake 1 I I

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that it will engage itsself in an active process of negoti shy

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onithe Syrian front and if the President of the United States I

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

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in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

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1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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this time it is harder It i9 true

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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Israeli forces to the east of the p~sses and from all ~

the oilfields including the town of El Tor

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a nner as to indicate the willingness of the Israelis

to temonstrate their desire for peace namely that no roads

nor 1nstallations or equipment of the oilfields be destroyed

I or jranSfered from their present location either to Israel

01 he remaining occupied part of Sinai

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which the mandate of UNEF will be extended annually as j

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Isrreli Mixed Armistice Agreement and they agree that the

Mixed Armistice Commission resume its work to consider

alibged violations by the parties to the present disen-II

garime~t agreement j

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wri~ing to the United States that it will not undertake 1 I I

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to Igive to President Ford his assurances that Egypt will not

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llo~itHc ~ctioib n~ainst one Anothor

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1tiOnlng of t110 UnIted Natio-1G Emorg~ncy I-oreo (UNEF) in

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agreement lIill be ~~Qred to except a8 altered by this

lLgrecmont

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Iwapl to assure you that once a further agreement is

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

Sinc~rely

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

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all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

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of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

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I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

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cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

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call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

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1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

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this time it is harder It i9 true

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

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you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

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Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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will continue to support and if desirable ani necessary

to engage itself directly in further efforts to achieve the

just] durablt settlement between Israel and all its

Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

COUI eil Resolutions 242 and 338

Sinc~rely

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MEMORANDUM OF

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

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Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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agreement but will fulfill its obligation towards syria

l~r In addition Egypt if attacked by Iarael will exeroise ita oF

r i 9ht toll self-defence under article S1 of the UN Charter

middotG- Should Israel give solemn assurances to the United State

that it will engage itsself in an active process of negoti shy

ations with a view to reach a second Disengagement agreement

onithe Syrian front and if the President of the United States I

gi~es his assurances tOPresident Sadat that the United stat I

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Goiernment will actively dePlOY its efforts and weight

a further disengagement between Syria and Israel takes place

~e~ore the middle of 1975 President Sadat would be prepared

to Igive to President Ford his assurances that Egypt will not

vi11ate the Disengagement Agreement reached between

Isxael as long as the efforts pertaining to further pr09ress

It~ards a just and durable peace are continuing t7

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lO~I Moreover Egypt is prepared to go to Geneva to dis~uss Iwitlt the parties concerned the conditions for a final just

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bnls~me ~merican firms ~ and that on ~ selective basis _

lhtt they CQuld reBu~e theiractivitie in Egypt ThisI

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called tor 17 the UN Security CooncU and rcfra11 from all i

llo~itHc ~ctioib n~ainst one Anothor

2 There would lie a tiltPmc-nt in the Agreement tllollt 1 i

o 1GUtUtC 4 further step towarus peace and dJat funher

o oaaLons to this ltd would 1gt0 unJermkcn by tIlo two sidesfImiddot Tho mHlury fOA7CCu of Egypt anll Israel wIll 00 dCploicU

tn ccoldancc -v1th the followln~ principlesI

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1tiOnlng of t110 UnIted Natio-1G Emorg~ncy I-oreo (UNEF) in

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4~hlst ill tlc implementation of this agrccment I II

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TIME AND DATE

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CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

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President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

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(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

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of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

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Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

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pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

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Sinc~rely

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

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Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

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in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

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Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

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this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

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SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

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Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

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11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

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Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

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Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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Sinc~rely

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CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

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nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

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think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

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any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

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this time it is harder It i9 true

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want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

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nit States

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always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

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SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

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~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

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UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

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- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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next folder

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Arri neighbors including Syria called for in Security

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Sinc~rely

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TIME AND DATE

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Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

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-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

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JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

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UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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MEMORANDUM OF

PARTICIPANTS

SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

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coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

SECREP(NODIS

-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

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UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

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remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

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JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

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fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

The documents in this folder continue into the

next folder

A Presidential Library Administered by the National Archives and Records Administration

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Mr Preeidf~nt I bull

I note with satisfaction your statement that the i~ I pI rCf~S loading tvvvClrds a just and lasting peace in the

Middle Eolstwill continile and the statement by Israel ~ ~ tha tit ilas no inten tion of attacking its neighbors

I ~ I

In furtherance of the process leading towards peace

j

Egypt will not attack Israel and will refrain from other

hostile qcts as

long as this agreement is being observed I bull

I 1

by both ~ ides

Sincerely I

Anwar Sadat

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~

~

SECREfNODI S

MEMORANDUM OF

PARTICIPANTS

SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

SECREfNODIS XGDS-3

EO~~~~(t Fj fTmiddot~middot-middotf fJ i lt ~

r- JJa 1l3o3

l SEC~NODIS 2

coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

SECREP(NODIS

-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

SECS ATE WASHDCJMMEDIATE oGo

I AMEMBASSY AtvfMAN oc i AME mASSY BEIRUT oo AMEMBASSY DAMASCUS trOJ

AMEMBASSY JIDDA (tp ~

A 1EMBASSY TEL AVIV (JcJ AmemhasiY Cairo USINFO WASHOe

() g

AIoembassy Jerusalem )()f SECTO 10 I

UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

~k (draft)

I INa ASSIFIED

J

n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

FOAM - J(H) bull bullmiddot6_ fCOfolTlfoIUATIOfol SHEET)

JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

The documents in this folder continue into the

next folder

A Presidential Library Administered by the National Archives and Records Administration

Page 25: March 7-22, 1975 - Kissinger's Trip - Vol. I (1) · 2012-02-24 · KISStNGER TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST March 7 - 22, 1975 . r . The President Trip Book . Vol. I. Scanned from the Kissinger

SECREfNODI S

MEMORANDUM OF

PARTICIPANTS

SUBJECT

LOCATION

TIME AND DATE

1JDEPARTMENl OF STATE

Washington DC 20520

CONVERSATION

President Anwar Sadat Foreign Minister Ismail Fahmy Minister of War General Gamassy Dr Ashraf Marwan Secretary

of the President for Foreign Contacts

Secretary Henry A Kissinger Under Secretary Joseph J Sisco Ambassador Hermann F Eilts Assistant Secretary Alfred L

Atherton Jr

Disengagemen~ Talks

Presidential Palace - Aswan

1100 AM - Saturday - March 8 1975

President Sadat Well Henry I welcome you again You are a dear friend I hope your visit will be fruitful and decisive

Secretary Kissinger I hope it will mark a turning point As you did the last time you are taking the lead I will spare no effort and will not leave

President Sadat How is President Ford

Secretary Kissinger Fine He is improving his domestic position by insisting on sticking to his programs He is

SECREfNODIS XGDS-3

EO~~~~(t Fj fTmiddot~middot-middotf fJ i lt ~

r- JJa 1l3o3

l SEC~NODIS 2

coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

SECREP(NODIS

-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

SECS ATE WASHDCJMMEDIATE oGo

I AMEMBASSY AtvfMAN oc i AME mASSY BEIRUT oo AMEMBASSY DAMASCUS trOJ

AMEMBASSY JIDDA (tp ~

A 1EMBASSY TEL AVIV (JcJ AmemhasiY Cairo USINFO WASHOe

() g

AIoembassy Jerusalem )()f SECTO 10 I

UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

~k (draft)

I INa ASSIFIED

J

n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

FOAM - J(H) bull bullmiddot6_ fCOfolTlfoIUATIOfol SHEET)

JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

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l SEC~NODIS 2

coming outof the difficult period of the Presidential transition He looks forward to meeting you if conditions develop to make your visit possible following this trip

How shall we conduct these talks

President Sadat It is up to you

Secretary Kissinger Mr President the last time you gave me some general ideas I did not communicate them to the Israelis in order not to have them in the press for two weeks and not to give the Israelis a chance to create public pressures I spoke in a general way about your ideas with Rabinbut gave him no formulas or points So in effect the negotiations will start Sunday in Jerusalem

I would like to review your ideas with you but this is not the time to make significant alterations I want to confirm two minor ideas we discussed but we should wait for the Israeli reaction before saying what can be done

You have been heroic in holding things together I know this has been a difficult period ~le have not lost time however We have prepared uS opinion and have blunted the attacks against you We have improved the psychological atmosphere in Israel

With respect to the other Arab countries you will always hear wild stories The only true stories are what you and I agree We see Egypt as a leader of the Arab world and will do nothing to undermine it But there is a romantic streak in your Arab brothers it is hard to tell where realities end and epic poetry begins I will not go beyond what we agreed

President Ford is determined to achieve a reasonable agreement if possible I think it is Israel will overwhelm us with petty points If you accept the entire Israeli program which I am not recommending they will not accept your acceptance

We will do nothing to weaken your position In that spirit you and I must try to find a solution

SECREP(NODIS

-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

SECS ATE WASHDCJMMEDIATE oGo

I AMEMBASSY AtvfMAN oc i AME mASSY BEIRUT oo AMEMBASSY DAMASCUS trOJ

AMEMBASSY JIDDA (tp ~

A 1EMBASSY TEL AVIV (JcJ AmemhasiY Cairo USINFO WASHOe

() g

AIoembassy Jerusalem )()f SECTO 10 I

UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

~k (draft)

I INa ASSIFIED

J

n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

FOAM - J(H) bull bullmiddot6_ fCOfolTlfoIUATIOfol SHEET)

JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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-SECREP-NOD I S )

President Sadat Fine Shall we discuss this privately

Secretary Kissinger Yes

(At this point the President and the Secretary adshyjourned for a private meeting that lasted from 1120 AM until about 100 PM)

SECREPNODIS

JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

SECS ATE WASHDCJMMEDIATE oGo

I AMEMBASSY AtvfMAN oc i AME mASSY BEIRUT oo AMEMBASSY DAMASCUS trOJ

AMEMBASSY JIDDA (tp ~

A 1EMBASSY TEL AVIV (JcJ AmemhasiY Cairo USINFO WASHOe

() g

AIoembassy Jerusalem )()f SECTO 10 I

UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

~k (draft)

I INa ASSIFIED

J

n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

FOAM - J(H) bull bullmiddot6_ fCOfolTlfoIUATIOfol SHEET)

JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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JoOr)QQ DEPARTMENT AS~~ FOR GENERAL SCOWCROFT ~ A D NESSEN

EO 11652 NjA

TA( OVIP (KISSINGER H

SUf JECT Remarks to Press by Secretary Kissinger and

President Sadat following their second Meeting In

Aswan March 8 1975

SECS ATE WASHDCJMMEDIATE oGo

I AMEMBASSY AtvfMAN oc i AME mASSY BEIRUT oo AMEMBASSY DAMASCUS trOJ

AMEMBASSY JIDDA (tp ~

A 1EMBASSY TEL AVIV (JcJ AmemhasiY Cairo USINFO WASHOe

() g

AIoembassy Jerusalem )()f SECTO 10 I

UNCLASSIFIED UEEgtEL ASWAN _ C01O

REF STATE 24911

Q - MR SISCO

~k (draft)

I INa ASSIFIED

J

n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

UNCLASSIFIED C Wellon

FOAM - J(H) bull bullmiddot6_ fCOfolTlfoIUATIOfol SHEET)

JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

The documents in this folder continue into the

next folder

A Presidential Library Administered by the National Archives and Records Administration

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n crlpt f

remarks

JOTE As you know the President and I have had eXlensive talks

today p rely alone and partly together with our associates to review

all the element that are involved in xmmakfng another step

towards peace In the MlddJe East I will now go first to Syria and

(hen t Israel and I will discuss there a sImilar ran e of issues tnen

r g rding the el ments of another slepl mm~rt I wi~feturn for

further discussions with the Presiden on Tuesday or

I am here because the United States be ves very str ngly that

another step towards peace In the Middle East is in (1 e interest of

all of the Peoples of the Middle East and of the world and we are

dedicated to making a major effort in this direction I believe

that based on the discussions that have had pr ess s possible

Question fave you discusse Mr Secretary any possibllty

of another disengag ment on the Syrian Front

Answer Sece tary Kissinger We discussed the whole range of

problems ino ved with peace in the Middle East and of cours that

includes all fronts

Question Mr Secr etar y are you bringing concrete ideas to

Israel that you have picked up h r e from President adat

L Answer Secretary Kissinger Obviously in discussions with -J

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Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

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t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

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fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

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UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

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JJ di l1 In Ide n

-z~ I d nt think t origin f tl

1 ments is of decisive Import1nce

Question Mr Presl ent do you think enough progress h s

been made to make you optimistic about a settlement

Answer PreshJcnt Sudat Well as I said before I am alwaysoptimistic ~ff~ but I thInk we shall be t aving a very hard round this time

Question Of you dt cuss the Palestinl n quesrion r Kissinger

nwer Secretary Kissinger I said we dIscussed the whole

rang of Issues In [he Middle Ess t

QuestIon Mr President wh ~n you sal a hard round do you

think It will take a long time Do you think it might ake three or

four weeks

Answer President Sadat Wtll 1 shall be very happy to have

Dr Kissinger as long as he can afford to stay with me but it Is not a matter of weeks or so As I said before the m~ssion of my friend

I Dr KissInger is very important this time ftUlaquo because we are

working on two very important points The first point is the defusion

of the explosive situation the second point is pushing the processI

of peace For that I am saying it is the hardest

Question Mr President ydu said recently that you think now

~or the first time peace is possible Can you please Bay what ~

UNCLASSIFIED

t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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t 11

nt ad t 11 I II n t y thi

or ~ bull iiIx sui it a ~cnr before when [ mct Or Kissinger

whll we fulfUhd the first IL engagement ngrecm nt 1y theory is

this For twenty-six years we have never enjoyed lny confidence

in Irael and the same thing hap ned that Israel n ver njoyed

any confidence in us The moment came when Dr KIssinger appeared

on test ge an he en oyed my full confidence and I think it must

be mentioned also that he should enoy the full onfidence of [srael he has

after all tha~done for Israel and all that the United States for

has done So lhat I am sayinampjh first rime in twemy- six ye rs

peace Is possible

Question Mr PresIdent do you think that no form of warfare

is useful in the ~ Arab - Israeli conflict

Answer President Sadat This is quite true from my point of

vi W and I think the October War has proved that wh t

cannot any party has l~ impose conditions on the other

r power

Question Vhat aOOut other forms of warfare Mr President

Answer President Sadat Well do you have in mind what you

call preventive war

Question Economic Warfare

Answer President Sadat When we discuss peace we shall be

L ~

UNCLASSIFIED

fORM )4- ~ (CONTINUATION SHEET)

n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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n nsi n u fi t fu

n I n ft r til t t1 di 1I 9 it

Quest ion middot1r President could you suy lhat ufcer your talks

1Y you feel things look hard r th n they did fore your

tulks today

11 we r President tdat Well my friend it is true that I feel

this time it is harder It i9 true

Olll tlon I it har eli 1r Prcsldlnt because you

want to go further thIs time than you did last lme in the range of

what you are tryIng to achIeve

Answer President Suda( Well as 1 old you wlmt we want to

achieve this time is keeping the momentum of the Peace cause and

defusing the explosive situation

Question Are the prospects better 0 worse after todays talks cannot

J11swer President Sadat I IraquoD lMbI tell until Dr Kissinger

returns

Question Mr Presldm t is the question a writte non-war

pledge by Egypt a negotiable issue as far as you are concerned

Answer President Sadat We have not discussed (his Not yet

We have not reached it But do you mean non -belligerency As I told

you if I am going to agree to non -belligerencyen while there is one

Isra~li soldier occupying my land this would mean an official invitation

L ~

FORM n41(H)4-61 (CONTINUATION SHEET)

UNCLASSIFIED CIIfI~tlon

ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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ny]n in r t ttu l in itatI I)

Question 1r S~crctnry do you expect the Geneva Conference

to meet soon

Answer Secretary Kissinger We have alwnyens stated our vlh~n

re dInes to g to G nevn let 1 reIgn Minisrer Gromyko

in Geneva last week we indicated hI t we were prepared for a xe

re

Question Have you d1scussed etc visit of President Sadar to the

nit States

Answ r Secretary Kissinger residlmt S d t knows (hat I e is

always welcome and I hope that aft [ we conclude these negotiations

we will be able to arrange some fir n late IQ OTE

KISSINGER ~

L J

- UNCLASSIFIED CIIIIClItion

Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum wwwfordlibrarymuseumgov

Library 1000 Beal Ave Ann Arbor MI48109 (734) 205-0555 fax (734) 205-0571 Museum 303 Pearl Street NW Grand Rapids MI49504 (616) 254-0400 fax (616) 254-0386

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