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Livy and Caesar – A Comparison. Katherine Irons. Livy Overview. Rome’s History and Livy’s View of Rome. Rise to fall of republican system Moral issue – costs of imperialism Can solve problems by looking at the past Ab Urbe Condita Glorifies Rome. Range of Time. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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Livy and CaesarLivy and Caesar – –
A Comparison A Comparison
Katherine IronsKatherine Irons
Livy OverviewLivy Overview
Rome’s History and Livy’s View of Rome’s History and Livy’s View of RomeRome
Rise to fall of republican systemRise to fall of republican system Moral issue – costs of Moral issue – costs of
imperialismimperialism Can solve problems by looking at Can solve problems by looking at
the pastthe past Ab Urbe ConditaAb Urbe Condita Glorifies RomeGlorifies Rome
Range of TimeRange of Time
Rome got better until 146 BC, Rome got better until 146 BC, decline ends with death of Cicerodecline ends with death of Cicero
Stays away from presentStays away from present Time and memory – “objects”Time and memory – “objects”
StyleStyle
Hard to generalize – changed depending on Hard to generalize – changed depending on subject mattersubject matter
Dramatic episodes common – storiesDramatic episodes common – stories Clarity, rich details, psychological insightClarity, rich details, psychological insight
Morals/ValuesMorals/Values
AccuracyAccuracy
Critics/ReputationCritics/Reputation
Criticized harshly in the Criticized harshly in the 1800s, but not as much 1800s, but not as much nownow
Still did a good job Still did a good job preserving historypreserving history
Real PersonalityReal Personality
Don’t know too much about himDon’t know too much about him Implied in his writingImplied in his writing ArrogantArrogant
Later Influence Later Influence
Vivid descriptions appealed to historiansVivid descriptions appealed to historians Good framework for organizationGood framework for organization Model for humanist historiansModel for humanist historians
Caesar OverviewCaesar Overview
Gallic WarsGallic Wars Overview Overview
GenreGenre
FormatFormat
First 7 = annual campaigns; 8First 7 = annual campaigns; 8 thth by deputy by deputy HirtiusHirtius
Forwarded to RomeForwarded to Rome Used mostly as propagandaUsed mostly as propaganda Speeches often usedSpeeches often used
Later InfluenceLater Influence
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