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Lessons from CCG’s What Can Video Games with Digital Objects Learn From Collectible Card Games?

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Lessons from CCG’sWhat Can Video Games with Digital Objects

Learn From Collectible Card Games?

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Who am I?• Started in game design in 1991 working for Richard Garfield

on Magic, eventually became SVP at WotC/Hasbro• In 1994 became the business and brand manager for Magic• Co-Designed or developed most of WotC’s CCG’s• Designed Organized Play systems such as the Pro-Tour• Started Three Donkeys in 2004 with Richard Garfield

consulting and designing Schizoid and Spectromancer • Taught Characteristics of Games at UW, podcasts with Richard

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The Interesting Thing• By their nature, distributed object games

inextricably mix design and business

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Magic: The GatheringYearly Revenue1994-PresentWholesale100-150 m$Retail250-375 m$

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Pokémon TCGTop Year Wholesale700 m$Retail1.75 b$(TCG only)

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Yu-Gi-Oh! TCGTop Year Wholesale1.2 b$Retail3.0 b$(TCG only)

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Definition• Distributed Object games contain hundreds of semi-

individually purchasable objects that together constitute a large portion of the play value of the game– They can take a basic gameplay interaction and turn it into

as much of a hobby as a game– Difficult to construct, but can provide an enormous payoff

for customer and publisher

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Assumptions• Repeat purchase revenue model– Essentially you are creating an operating system– Difficult for players and designers, so should be

robust enough for long-term involvement– Huge benefit to not have to purchase all at once– Implies a degree of ‘sophistication’ in the audience

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Assumptions• Limited SKU’s– Personal bias on this one, but I hate analysis

paralysis for the consumer. NO BAD PURCHASES!– Implies randomized selling, but be creative, e.g.

different rarity levels, no refill, etc.

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Assumptions• Plan for success– You will have a wide range of customers with

different amounts of skill, free time, psychographics, entry times, and especially money to spend

– This assumption leads to huge constraints for gameplay (our focus here)

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Implications

• For these games, purchase decisions are not made once, heavily influenced by the marketing guys—they are CONSTANT decisions

• Respecting all your customers pays off• Each game is a sales pitch

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• Objects should be easily understood– The customer needs to think they know what

they’re getting. The easiest way is clarity.

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• For objects to have a clear benefit across

different entry times and purchase levels, the value of each purchase (in winning %) should have only logarithmically increasing value

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• For objects to be useful

across many levels of skill, you may consider removing or mitigating physical skill and hand-eye coordination from the picture

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• Add randomness– For small audience sizes, a high degree of

randomness in gameplay is critical– For astute audiences, it is very helpful to maintain

discussion about strategy/value

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• How can you add real value to the objects?– Cash out– Tournaments– Desire to collect– Community– Many others

• Figure out and feed them

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If every game is a sales pitch,…• Your customers are your salesmen– Intermixing of large populations is nice, making

randomness even more critical– Have fun while you are playing those with better

‘decks’– This implies limiting formats and some amount of

free-to-play

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Reconfiguration is Half the Game• Losses are critical to drive sales, but more

importantly to access the interesting part of the game play!

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Reconfiguration is Half the Game• Losses easy to come by in multiplayer mode

for the total population, but harder to get right for each player-to-player interaction. Skill can be high, but accuracy in skill testing is bad

• Single player version must entail a lot of losses

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Reconfiguration is Half the Game

• Repeat play is critical–Must keep

playtime short to allow rematches.

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Design and Business are Mixed

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Design and Business are Mixed• Changing the rarity of an object changes the

price of the product!

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Design and Business are Mixed• Changing the power of an object changes the

price of the product

$

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Design and Business are Mixed• Changing the release schedule

changes the gameplay– Competent strategy, especially for

combinatorial games isn’t always easy to come by

– Don’t cut your best salesmen off at the knees by limiting their time

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Design and Business are Mixed• Changing the price of the product changes

your potential customers– Beware of business concerns and know your

audience

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Design and Business are Mixed• Organized Play (Tournaments, Leagues, etc.) is

a powerful tool, but is it marketing or design?– Games are not just their rules– Players are more amenable to ‘patches’ in format– OP may be the organism, but the rules are the

skeleton

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Long Term Concerns• How do you keep the objects interesting over

the long term, and why should you care?

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Long Term Concerns• Rotate objects– In and out, not just ‘out’

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Long Term Concerns• Avoid complexity creep

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Long Term Concerns• Avoid power creep– Or you won’t be able to

rotate objects back in– And you won’t be in

control of your game

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Conclusion

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There is no substitute for studying games. All games.

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Your customers don’t care about your org chart