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Lappeenranta, 7th-8th March 2003
THEIERE partners and EAEEIE membersTHEIERE partners and EAEEIE membersClub EEA Commissions for teaching & Club EEA Commissions for teaching & International RelationshipsInternational Relationships
TASK 1: European Curricula in
Electrical and Information Engineering
PlaPlann
•Context, aim•Present state of the report•Keywords and percentages => a
portal (website presenting EIE for students)
•Present state of the report (per country) Other points
•Way to disseminate (4th year of THEIERE?)
AiAimm
• Publishing a report, "Electrical and Information Engineering in Europe, an overview"
• 1st part– State of the art: what is EIE? Its borders?– Available institutions, curricula, diploma, accreditation
procedures...
• 2nd part– implementation of 358, state of the reflections and
implementation within the various European countries– proposition of common curricula, of a guideline for common
curricula ?
Present state of Present state of the the
report (1/6)report (1/6)1. Introduction 1
1.1. Context 11.2. Methodology 31.3. References 4
2. Electrical and Information Engine 52.1. The situation in Anglo-saxon countr. 52.2. The situation throughout Eur. 62.3. Conclusion 7
3. Actual implementation of the 3-5-8 scheme in Europe (overview with the partners of THEIERE and EAEEIE) 8
On the way On the way
everybody: everybody: some infosome infomissingmissing
HY: HY: need validation and updateneed validation and update
by partnersby partners
WHAT GOING ON FOR THE 3-5-8 WHAT GOING ON FOR THE 3-5-8 European timetable for the European timetable for the
implementation implementation of the two-tier system (Bachelor- of the two-tier system (Bachelor-
Master) Master)
Lappeenranta, 8th March 2003
1999
2000
Tw
oT
ier
Sys
tem
Bef
ore
1999
- Ita
ly
- Wallonia
- Fla
nder
s
(bac
helo
r)
- Bulg
aria
-Germ
any
- Spain
-Esto
nia
- Fra
nce
- Fin
land
- Greece
- Ireland
- Lith
uania - Norw
ay
- Poland
- Portugal
- Slo
vakia
-Aust
ria
- Denm
ark
- Sweden
2005
2008
- Fla
nder
s
(mas
ter)
No Nationaldecision
Freedecision
- Czech Rep.
2003
2004
- Unite
d Kin
gdom
- rom
ania
- United Kingdom
- Neth
erlands
2002
- Poland
- Ire
land
- Slovakia-Austria
- Portugal
Since a long time Some Countries have a two-tier system. (Some of them have done it to allow international students coming):UK, Poland, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania, etc … Some governments will impose by law the two-tier system with respect of the Bologna process: Italy, Finland, Netherlands, France, Belgium (Flanders) etc … But other countries leave universities to decide for themselves:Poland, Austria, Slovakia, Portugal etc … Some Governments have not discussed any change on their own system (yet) with respect to the Bologna declaration:UK, Sweden, Spain, etc …
Main Main remarksremarks
Lappeenranta, 8th March 2003
First a two-tier system is not only a 3-5 scheme it could be a 4-1 or 4-2. This could lead to unbalanced equivalencies. but sure it is not a 5 years integrated course (one tier system).
Secondly, some Governments have imposed by law the implantation of the Supplement Diplomat (Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Latvia): The SD will allow and facilitate an evaluation of the student curricula.
Bachelor Master
Master
Present state of Present state of the the
report (4/6)report (4/6)4. Some documents about 358 23
5. Survey 245.1. During the first year 245.2. During the second year 245.3. Work to achieve 245.4. Organisation of the work 25
Some suggestions from the York conference and Gdansk conferences:
1. "Curricular convergence in higher education" from A. Garcia2. "Engineering education in Germany - a critical contribution" from M. Hoffmann3. "Towards the 358 model: a thematic network contribution to harmonisation ofcurricula" from M.J. Martins & al.4. A contribution from A. Ward regarding "competences" as defined in the ICTproject?????????? see the conference in Gdansk ?
On the wayOn the way
Present state of Present state of the the
report (5/6)report (5/6)6. AT: Österreich 26 => 33. UK: United Kingdom 18911.1. General information 4211.2. What does EIE mean in your country ? What are the
borders in your country? 4211.3. List of degrees awarded in EIE 4211.4. Some figures about students in Germany 4311.5. Pedagogical content of the degrees 4511.6. What is the present situation of the implementation
of the 3-5-8 system in Germany? 4511.7. List of Institutions in the field of EIE 4511.8. References 53
Present state of Present state of the the
report (6/6)report (6/6)34. Europe 19235. References 19336. Persons who have participated in this work (general
acknowledgement) 195
On the wayOn the way
web site (portal), web site (portal), presenting EIE in presenting EIE in
EuropeEurope– kind of degrees per country– links with existing servers– database– research engine (keywords and percentages)
– existing tools?– model of 358 curricula
An engineering student (Carolina) in training period, from Vigo, in Nancy
=> we will need the participation of everybody...
KeywordsKeywordsand and
percentagespercentagesSpecialities
(French)Specialities
(English)Keywords (EIE) Keywords (beh. Skills) Keywords
(others)Génie
Electrique etInformatiqueIndustrielle
(GEII)
ElectricalEngineering
and IndustrialComputering
Electrical engineering(betw. 22.6 and 26%),industrial computers
:Local networks (bet. 22.6and 26%)
Communication (6%),English (6.2%)
project (12%), training period(15.6%)
Maths, physics(11.4%)
Génie desTélécommu-nications et
Réseaux
Telecommu-nication and
Networksengineering
Electronics (10.4%),computers (12.8 %)
Signal (1.6%)Telecommunications
(9.2%)Networks (12.8%)
Communication (5%),English (5%), economy
(2.4%)project (12%), training period
(15.6%)
Maths, physics(13.2%)
Should we define a glossary of keywords ? Global amount of percentage => 100 %
including EIE, other skills , other sc.-tech. domains
Present state of the Present state of the report: report:
overview per country overview per country (1/3)(1/3)
• Austria YES ? DL - ST NO
• Belgium (Flemish) NO ? new data NO
• Belgium (Walloon) NO NO new data NO
• Bulgaria YES ? OK NO
• Czech Rep. NO ? DL - ST NO
• Danmark NO NO NO INFO NO
• Deutschland YES ? OK NO
• Estonia YES ? OK NO
• España YES ? ST NO
• Finland YES ? DL - ST NO
CountryEIE in your language
and English translation(part 2)
Check part3:Implementation
of 358
Presentation ofyour countrypart 6 to 33
Keywords
DL: No details for the list of diploma ST: No statistics (weight of EIE)
Present state of the Present state of the report: report:
overview per country overview per country (2/3)(2/3)
• France YES YES Partial ST Partial
• Greece YES ? ST NO
• Hungary NO ? ST-DL-* NO
• Ireland YES ? ST NO
• Italia YES ? ST NO
• Latvia NO ? Partial NO
• Lithuania YES ? OK NO
• Luxembourg YES ? ST NO
• Nederland NO ? INFO MISSING NO
• Norge NO ? ST - DL NO
CountryEIE in your language
and English translation(part 2)
Check part3:Implementation
of 358
Presentation ofyour countrypart 6 to 33
Keywords
DL: No details for the list of diploma ST: No statistics (weight of EIE)*: Other points => see JM
Present state of the Present state of the report: report:
overview per country overview per country (3/3)(3/3)
• Polska YES ? OK NO
• Portugal YES ? ST - DL -* NO
• Romania NO NO NO INFO NO
• Slovakia YES ? OK NO
• Slovenia NO ? NO INFO NO
• Sweden NO ? NO INFO NO
• Ukraine YES ? OK NO
• United Kingdom YES ? ST - DL - * NO
CountryEIE in your language
and English translation(part 2)
Check part3:Implementation
of 358
Presentation ofyour countrypart 6 to 33
Keywords
DL: No details for the list of diploma ST: No statistics (weight of EIE)*: Other points => see JM
Other points: Works to Other points: Works to achieveachieve
Is it possible to make some propositions Is it possible to make some propositions for the implementation of 358 in EIE in for the implementation of 358 in EIE in
Europe ?Europe ?Try to find some "common" curricula• Propose a scheme for some bachelors (3 years) in our
specialities (computer, electronics, automatic control…)• Propose a scheme for some masters (5 years) in our
speciality• What is the interest to keep some curricula/diploma outside the 358
scheme?• Follow the reflection done during INEIT-MUCON ("the minimum as an
engineer has to know")– emerging disciplines– new pedagogy– indispensable fundamentals– behavioural skills– evaluation methods
• Helpful for colleagues who wants to organise new studies with a European view...
FEBRUARY 2003
PUBLICATION OF THE REPORT,JUNE 2003
Way to Way to disseminatedisseminate
•A published report
•A web site (portal), presenting EIE in Europe– kind of diploma per country
– links with existing servers
European scheme in European scheme in ElectricalElectrical
and Information and Information Engineering?Engineering?
Doctorat
Technician (2 or 3 years)
17-18-19 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5
Sec. School +3 Sec. School +5
Engineering study (5 years integrated)
Bachelor (3 years) Master (Bachelor + 2)
3 years=professional bachelor?
MasterBachelor
Universities
Polytechnics
Technician
4 years (industrial engineer) => Prof. Bachelor +1 ?
4 years (industrial engineer) => 5 years master?