Krishnamurti-this Matter of Culture Chapter 14 Part2

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    THIS MATTER OF CULTURE CHAPTER 14part2

    Now, can we bring about, from the tenderest age, a sense of complete security, afeeling of being at home, so that in you there is no struggle to be this and not to be that? Because the moment there is an inward struggle there is conflict,and to overcome that conflict there must be discipline. Whereas, if you are rightly educated, then everything that you do is an integrated action; there is no contradiction and hence no compulsive action. As long as there is no integrationthere must be discipline, but discipline is destructive because it does not leadto freedom.

    To be integrated does not demand any form of discipline. That is, if I am doing what is good, what is intrinsically true, what is really beautiful, doing it with my whole being, then there is no contradiction in me and I am not merelyconforming to something. If what I am doing is totally good, right in itself - not right according to some Hindu tradition or communist theory, but timelessly right under all circumstances - then I am an integrated human being and have no need for discipline. And is it not the function of a school to bring about in youthis sense of integrated confidence so that what you are doing is not merely what you wish to do, but that which is fundamentally right and good, everlastinglytrue? you love there is no need for discipline, is there? Love brings its own creative understanding, therefore there is no resistance, no conflict; but to love with such complete integration is possible only when you feel deeply secure, c

    ompletely at home, especially while you are young. This means, really, that theeducator and the student must have abounding confidence in each other, otherwisewe shall create a society which will be as ugly and destructive as the presentone. If we can understand the significance of completely integrated action in which there is no contradiction, and therefore no need for discipline, then I think we shall bring about a totally different kind of culture, a new civilization.But if we merely resist, suppress, then what is suppressed will inevitably rebound in other directions and set going various mischievous activities and destructive events.

    So it is very important to understand this whole question of discipline. Tome, discipline is something altogether ugly; it is not creative, it is destructive. But merely to stop there, with a statement of that kind, may seem to implythat you can do whatever you like. On the contrary, a man who loves does not do

    whatever he likes. It is love alone that leads to right action. What brings order in the world is to love and let love do what it will.

    Questioner: Why do we hate the poor?Krishnamurti: Do you really hate the poor? I am not condemning you; I am ju

    st asking, do you really hate the poor? And if you do, why? Is it because you also may be poor one day, and imagining your own plight then, you reject it? Or isit that you dislike the sordid, dirty, unkempt existence of the poor? Dislikinguntidiness, disorder, squalor, filth, you say, "I don't want to have anything to do with the poor." Is that it? But who has created poverty, squalor and disorder in the world? You, your parents, your government - our whole society has created them; because, you see, we have no love in our hearts. We love neither our children nor our neighbours, neither the living nor the dead. We have no love foranything at all. The politicians are not going to eradicate all this misery and

    ugliness in the world, any more than the religions and the reformers will, because they are only concerned with a little patchwork here and there; but if therewere love, then all these ugly things would disappear tomorrow.

    Do you love anything? Do you know what it is to love? You know, when you love something completely, with your whole being, that love is not sentimental, itis not duty, it is not divided as physical or divine. Do you love anyone or anything with your whole being - your parents, a friend, your dog, a tree? Do you?I am afraid you don't. That is why you have vast spaces in your being in which there is ugliness, hate, envy. You see, the man who loves has no room for anything else. We should really spend our time discussing all this and finding out how

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    to remove the things that are so cluttering our minds that we cannot love; for it is only when we love that we can be free and happy. It is only people who areloving, vital, happy, that can create a new world - not the politicians, not thereformers or the few ideological saints. Questioner: You talk about truth goodness and integration, which implies that on the other side there is untruth, eviland disintegration. So how can one be true, good and integrated without discipline?