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JOURNALSOF THE

HOUSE OF LORDS

SESSION 1998-99

VOLUME 232

LAID ON THE TABLE BY THE CLERK OF THE PARLIAMENTS

PRINTED BY ORDER OF THE HOUSE OF LORDSBY THE CONTROLLER OF HER MAJESTY’S STATIONERY OFFICE

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Die Martis 24) Novembris 1998

Parliament met at half-past eleven o’clock pursuant to the prorogation of Thursday 19th November.

THE QUEEN

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Biddulph, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brain, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.

Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdray, V.Cowley, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Elibank, L.Elles, B.

Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Feversham, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haden-Guest, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Headfort, M.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.

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Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.

Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rodney, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.

Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakefield, Bp.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitelaw, V.Wigoder, L.Wigram, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Young, B.

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1. Queen’s Speech—The Queen being seated on the Throne, and the Commons being at the Bar withtheir Speaker, Her Majesty was pleased to make a Most Gracious Speech to both Houses ofParliament, and then retired.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed at half-past three o’clock.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

2. Roll of the Lords—The Roll of the Lords, prepared by the Clerk of the Parliaments, was orderedto lie on the Table and be printed. (HL Paper 1)

3. Select Vestries Bill—The Bill was presented by the Lord Privy Seal (Baroness Jay of Paddington)and read a first time pro forma.

4. Queen’s Speech—The Queen’s Speech was reported by the Lord Chancellor; then it was moved bythe Lord Clinton-Davis that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty as follows:

Most Gracious Sovereign,We, Your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal inParliament assembled, beg leave to thank Your Majesty for the most gracious Speechwhich Your Majesty has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.

After the motion had been seconded by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal, the debate thereuponwas adjourned till tomorrow.

5. Chairman of Committees—The Lord Boston of Faversham was appointed to take the Chair in allCommittees for this Session nemine dissentiente.

6. Principal Deputy Chairman of Committees—The Lord TordoV was appointed Principal DeputyChairman of Committees for this Session nemine dissentiente.

7. Stoppages in the Streets—It was ordered that the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis do takecare that during the Session of Parliament the passages through the streets leading to thisHouse be kept free and open; and that no obstruction be permitted to hinder the passage ofthe Lords to and from this House; and that no disorder be allowed in Westminster Hall, or inthe passages leading to this House, during the sitting of Parliament; and that there be noannoyance therein or thereabouts; and that the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod attendingthis House do communicate this Order to the Commissioner aforesaid.

Judicial Business

8. Appeal Committees—Two Appeal Committees were appointed pursuant to Standing Order.

9. Appellate Committees—Two Appellate Committees were appointed pursuant to Standing Order.

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Ghous (A.P.)(Petitioner) (lodged 24th September)—The petition of Ghulam Ghous praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

11. Biesheuvel (Respondent) v. Birrell (Petitioner)—The petition of Andrew Birrell praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

12. Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Petitioners) (Northern Ireland) (lodged 20th November)—The petitionof Times Newspapers Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

13. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Sosanya(Petitioner)—The petition of Olumuyiwa Kofi Sosanya praying for leave to appealnotwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

14. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex partePeracha (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of Bashir Uddin Peracha praying for an extensionof time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance withthe Administration of Justice Act 1960, was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

15. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Salem (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 9th December next (theagents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

16. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

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1. Museums and Galleries—Report and Financial Statements for 1997–98 of the GreaterManchester Museum of Science and Industry Trust; (—)

2. Arts and Libraries—Report for 1997–98 of the Arts Council of Wales. (—)3. Local Government—Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Local Government

Boundary Commission for Wales. (—)

17. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Vessels in Commercial Use for Sport or Pleasure) Regulations 1998,

laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (20th November) (2771)2. Herring (Specified Sea Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) Order 1998, laid under the Sea Fish

(Conservation) Act 1967; (20th November) (2867)3. Income–related Benefits (Subsidy to Authorities) Amendment Order 1998, laid under the

Social Security Administration Act 1992; (23rd November) (2865)4. (i) Registration of Political Parties (Fees) Order 1998— (2872)

(ii) Registration of Political Parties (Prohibited Words and Expressions) Order 1998—(2873)

laid under the Registration of Political Parties Act 1998; (23rd November)5. Residuary Body for Wales (Winding Up) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government

(Wales) Act 1994. (23rd November) (2859)

18. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Town and Country Planning General (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the

Town and County Planning Act 1990; (2800)2. Non–Domestic Rating (Rural Settlements) (England) (No. 2) Order 1998, laid under the

Local Government Finance Act 1988. (2836)

19. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Army Technical Support Agency, laid under the

Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;2. Report for 1997–98 of the Scottish Charities Nominee, laid under the Law Reform

(Miscellaneous Provisions) (Scotland) Act 1990;3. Remuneration of and Appointments to the Scottish Tourist Board, laid under the

Development of Tourism Act 1969;4. Reports for 1995–96 on—

(ii) Smallholdings in Wales—(iii) Smallholdings in England—

laid under the Agriculture Act 1970;The House was adjourned at seven minutes before five o’clock

till tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,half-past two o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.

Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.

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Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.

Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundee, E.Dunmore, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.

Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haden-Guest, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Headfort, M.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.

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Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lowry, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.

Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.

Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Robertson of Oakridge, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saint Levan, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soper, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.

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Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

2. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged thatthe Order of the Divisional Court of 28th October 1998 relating to the decision of Mr Evanssitting at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court on 16th October 1998 to issue a provisional warrantfor the arrest of the respondent, be aYrmed save as to costs; that the Order of the DivisionalCourt of 28th October 1998 relating to the decision of Mr Bartle sitting in the same court on22nd October 1998 to issue a further provisional warrant for the arrest of the respondent, beset aside; that the said decision of Mr Bartle be restored and that the warrant be not quashed;and that the respondent do pay to the appellants their costs in the Divisional Court and in thisHouse, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties.

3. W 1-6 (A.P.) (Respondents) v. Essex County Council and another (Appellants)—The petition ofthe appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended until two weeks after the determination of the appealBarrett (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Enfield (Respondents) (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Hong Kong—Government Response to the 3rd Report of the House of Commons

Foreign AVairs Committee, Session 1997–98, on Hong Kong; (4156)2. Immigration—Government Response to the 4th Report of the House of Commons

Foreign AVairs Committee, Session 1997–98, on Entry Clearance Operations withParticular Reference to Islamabad and New Delhi; (4151)

3. Visas—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Armenia terminating theExchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and the USSR concerning the MutualAbolition of Consular Fees on Visas; (4165)

4. Marine Safety—1996 Amendments to the International Convention for the Safety of Lifeat Sea, 1974; (4158)

5. Shipping—1996 Amendments to the International Code for the Construction andEquipment of Ships Carrying Liquefied Gases in Bulk; (4159)

6. Milk Marketing—Minute setting out the background to the indemnity in respect ofmembers of the Residuary Milk Marketing Board for Northern Ireland. (—)

5. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Town and Country Planning (Minerals) (Scotland) Regulations 1998; (2913)2. Town and Country Planning (Compensation for Restrictions on Mineral Working and

Mineral Waste depositing) (Scotland) Regulations 1998. (2914)

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Weinstock, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitelaw, V.

Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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1. Scottish Further Education Funding Council (Establishment) (Scotland) Order 1998,laid under the Further and Higher Education (Scotland) Act 1992; (2887)

2. Merchant Shipping and Fishing Vessels (Manual Handling Operations) Regulations1998, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (2857)

3. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Christchurch BoroughCouncil and Purbeck District Council) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act1988; (2862)

4. (i) Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 1998— (2907)(ii) Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) (No. 3)

Regulations 1998— (2908)(iii) Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (General) (Amendment) (No. 2)

Regulations 1998— (2909)laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988;

5. Civil Courts (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1998, laid under the County Courts Act 1984;(2910)

6. Social Security (Contributions) Amendment (No. 5) Regulations 1998, laid under theSocial Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (2894)

7. School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Allowances for Governors and IndividualPupil Information) (Modification) Regulations 1998, laid under the School Standardsand Framework Act 1998. (2916)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints for

Northern Ireland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laidunder the Police (Northern Ireland) Order 1987;

2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Museum of Wales, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;

3. Report of the Health Service Commissioner, laid under the Health ServiceCommissioners Act 1993;

4. Report of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration, laid under theParliamentary Commissioner Act 1967;

5. Report for 1993–98 of the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on Consumer Safety,laid under the Consumer Protection Act 1987;

6. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Home–Grown Cereals Authority, laid under theCereals Marketing Act 1965;

7. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of English Heritage, laid under the National HeritageAct 1983.

Public Business

8. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—A bill to transfer from theSecretary of State to the Commissioners of Inland Revenue or the Treasury certain functionsrelating to national insurance contributions, the National Insurance Fund, statutory sick pay,statutory maternity pay or pension schemes and certain associated functions relating tobenefits; to make further provision, in connection with the functions transferred, as to thepowers of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, the making of decisions and appeals; toprovide that rebates payable in respect of members of money purchase contracted-out pensionschemes are to be payable out of the National Insurance Fund; and for connected purposeswas presented by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham, read a first time and ordered to beprinted. (HL Bill 1)

9. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that theExplanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 1–EN)

10. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision about theCommonwealth Development Corporation was presented by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 2)

11. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notesrelating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 2–EN)

12. The Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to HerMajesty was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned till tomorrow.

The House was adjourned at six minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Brigstocke, B.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.

Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denham, L.

Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.

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Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Headfort, M.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lowry, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.

McNair, L.McNally, L.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Owen, L.Oxfuird, V.Palumbo, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.

Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. MacNiven (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Petitioner) v. Westmoreland Investments Limited(Respondents) (lodged 20th November)—The petition of Iain Graham Brander MacNivenpraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Regina v. Cooke (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland) (NorthernIreland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

3. Appeal Committee—The First Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Orders were made:O’Loughlin (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Essex (Petitioner)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 10th December next.Garston and others (Respondents) v. Scottish Widows’ Fund and Life Assurance Society(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply fortheir costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Walker (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Centaur Clothes Group Limited(Petitioners)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 10th December next.Boukssid (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 10th December next.Royal Bank of Scotland (Respondents) v. Ezekiel (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Crime—Criminal Statistics: England and Wales, 1997. (4162)

5. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Government of Wales Act 1998 (Housing) (Amendments) Order 1998.

6. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:North Hull Housing Action Trust (Dissolution) Order 1998, laid under the Housing Act 1988.

(2871)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Intervention Board, laid under the Exchequer

and Audit Departments Act 1921;2. News Release concerning Homicides in Scotland in 1997, laid under the Police (Scotland)

Act 1967;3. Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by the

Audit Commission from Lloyds Bank plc, laid under the Local Government Finance Act1982;

4. Report for 1997 of the Animal Procedures Committee, laid under the Animals (ScientificProcedures) Act 1986.

Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.

Whitelaw, V.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Private Business

8. Alliance & Leicester plc (Group Reorganisation) Bill [hl] (formerly Girobank plc (Transfer) Bill[hl])—The Chairman of Committees acquainted the House that pursuant to the resolution of17th November last the bill had been deposited in the OYce of the Clerk of the Parliamentstogether with the declaration of the agent; the bill was presented, read a first time, passedthrough all its remaining stages pro forma and sent to the Commons.

Public Business

9. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision for a new system of pollutionprevention and control; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Whitty, reada first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 3)

10. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating tothe bill be printed. (HL Bill 3–EN)

11. Committee of Selection—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that in accordance withStanding Order 61 a Committee of Selection be appointed to select and propose to the Housethe names of the Lords to form each select committee of the House (except the Committee ofSelection itself and any committee otherwise provided for by statute or by order of the House)or any other body not being a select committee referred to it by the Chairman of Committees,and the Panel of Deputy Chairmen of Committees; and that the following Lords together withthe Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:

L. Burnham L. McIntosh of HaringeyL. Carter L. Rodgers of Quarry BankV. Cranborne L. StrathclydeL. Harris of Greenwich V. TenbyB. Jay of Paddington (Lord Privy Seal) L. Weatherill;

the motion was agreed to.

12. The Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to HerMajesty was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned to Monday next.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes before ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.

Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.

Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.

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Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.

Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson-Watt, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.

Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.

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Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcreedan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Papers

1. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. National Lottery—New Links for the Lottery: Proposals for the New Opportunities Fund:

Government consultation document; (27th November) (4166)2. Defence—Ministry of Defence Performance Report for 1997–98; (30th November)

(4170)3. Social Services—Modernising Social Services: Promoting independence, Improving

protection, Raising standards: Government proposals. (30th November) (4169)

2. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 27th November, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Local Government Pension Scheme (Management and Investment of Funds) (Scotland)

Regulations 1998, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972; (2888)2. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations

1998, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (2878)

Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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3. Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 1998, laid under the Crime and Disorder Act1998; (2839)

4. (i) Action Programme for Nitrate Vulnerable Zones (Scotland) Regulations— (2927)(ii) European Communities (Designation) (No. 3) Order 1998— (2793)(iii) Charges for Inspections and Controls (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (2880)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;5. (i) Transfer of Prisoners (Isle of Man) (Amendment) Order 1998— (2797)

(ii) Transfer of Prisoners (Restricted Transfers) (Channel Islands and Isle of Man) Order1998— (2798)laid under the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997.

3. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Fair Employment and Treatment (Northern Ireland) Order 1998.

4. Deregulation—The following order was laid before the House for approval by resolution undersection 1(4) of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the DelegatedPowers and Deregulation Committee:Draft Deregulation (Pipe-lines) Order 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Fees for Inquiries (Standard Daily Amount) Regulations 1998, laid under the Housing

and Planning Act 1986; (2864)2. Registration of Political Parties (Access to the Register) Regulations 1998, laid under the

Registration of Political Parties Act 1998. (2875)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement of Accounts for 1997–98 of the Police Authority for Northern Ireland,

including Accounts of the Royal Ulster Constabulary Fund and the Police PropertyFund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under thePolice Act (Northern Ireland) 1970;

2. Report for 1997–98 of the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council, laid underthe Science and Technology Act 1965.

7. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Social Security (Contributions) Amendment (No. 5) Regulations 1998. (2894)

Select Committee Report

8. Committee of Selection—The First Report from the Committee was made; it was ordered that theReport be printed. (HL Paper 2)

Private Business

9. London Local Authorities Bill [hl]—The Chairman of Committees acquainted the House thatpursuant to the resolution of 17th November the bill had been deposited in the OYce of theClerk of the Parliaments together with the declaration of the agent; the bill was presented, reada first time, read a second time pro forma and reported from the Committees.

Public Business

10. Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England—It was moved by the Baroness Jay ofPaddington that it is desirable that a Select Committee be appointed to consider the operationof the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England and to make recommendations;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

11. Parliamentary Privilege—A message was brought from the Commons that they have ordered:That in accordance with the Resolution of that House of 9th July 1997 in the last session ofParliament, a Select Committee of six Members be appointed to join with a Committee to beappointed by the Lords, as the Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege, to reviewparliamentary privilege and make recommendations thereon;That three be the Quorum of the Committee;

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That the Committee shall have power to send for persons, papers and records; to sitnotwithstanding any adjournment of the House; to report from time to time; and to appointspecialist advisers to supply information which is not readily available or to elucidate mattersof complexity within the Committee’s order of reference;That the proceedings of the Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege in the last session ofParliament be referred to the Committee;That the Attorney General, the Lord Advocate, the Solicitor General and the SolicitorGeneral for Scotland, being members of either House, may attend the Committee, may takepart in deliberations, may receive Committee papers and may give such other assistance to theCommittee as may be appropriate, but shall not vote or make any motion or move anyamendment or be counted in the quorum.

12. The Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to HerMajesty was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned till tomorrow.

The House was adjourned at five minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 1) Decembris 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackwell, L.

Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.

Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.

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Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gibson-Watt, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.

Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsdown, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leconfield and Egremont, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levene of Port Soken, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nickson, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.

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Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Papers

1. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:European Communities—Developments in the European Union: January – June 1998. (4152)

2. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Advice and Assistance (Assistance by Way of Representation) (Scotland)

Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998;2. Draft Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Prescribed Proceedings) Amendment (No. 2)

Regulations 1998;3. Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 1999;4. Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 1999;5. Draft Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998.

Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.

SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weinstock, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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3. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1997–98 of Scottish Natural Heritage, laid under the Natural Heritage

(Scotland) Act 1991;2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish Qualifications Authority, together with the Report

of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1996;3. Report for 1997–98 of the Arts Council of Wales on Lottery Distribution Activities, laid

under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993.

Select Committee Report

4. Statutory Instruments—The First Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Police Act 1997 (Notification of Authorisations etc.) Order 1998;Draft Police Act 1997 (Authorisation of Action in Respect of Property) (Code ofPractice) Order 1998;Draft Parole Board (Transfer of Functions) Order 1998;Draft Government of Wales Act 1998 (Housing) (Amendments) Order 1998;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 4)

5. Statutory Instruments—The minutes of proceedings of the Joint Committee for Session 1997–98were ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 3)

Private Business

6. City of Westminster Bill [hl]—The Chairman of Committees acquainted the House that pursuantto the resolution of 18th November last the bill had been deposited in the OYce of the Clerkof the Parliaments together with the declaration of the agent; the bill was presented, read afirst time, passed through all its remaining stages pro forma and sent to the Commons.

Public Business

7. Statutory Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees pursuant to StandingOrder 70A and the resolution of the House of 16th December 1997 that, as proposed by theCommittee of Selection, the following Lords be appointed to join with a Committee of theCommons as the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments:

V. Addison L. SkelmersdaleV. Exmouth L. VivianL. Hardy of Wath L. Walker of Doncaster;L. Meston

and that the Committee do meet with any Committee appointed by the Commons this day ata quarter past four o’clock;the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaintthem therewith.

8. The Queen’s Speech—The debate on the Motion that an Humble Address be presented to HerMajesty was resumed and, after further debate, was again adjourned till tomorrow.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Mercurii 2) Decembris 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.

Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.

Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.

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Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bradford, E.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.

Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.

Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gibson-Watt, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hambro, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.

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Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.May, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.

Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.

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Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

1. Oaths—The Lords following took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute:Michael David Lord MorrisTimothy George Frank Lord Boston.

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Shipping—1996 Amendments to the International Code for the Construction and

Equipment of Ships Carrying Dangerous Chemicals in Bulk (IBC Code)—(i) Resolution MSC.50 (66); (4160)(ii) Resolution MSC.58 (67); (4161)

2. Legal System—Modernising Justice: The Government’s plans for reforming legal servicesand the courts: Government proposals; (4155)

3. Drug TraYcking—Agreement between the United Kingdom and the United StatesConcerning Maritime and Aerial Operations to Suppress Illicit TraYcking by Sea inWaters of the Caribbean and Bermuda, together with an explanatory memorandum.

(4154)

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Non–Domestic Rating Contributions (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid

under the Local Government Finance Act 1992; (2957)2. Occupational Pensions (Revaluation) Order 1998, laid under the Pension Schemes Act

1993; (2921)3. Electricity Supply (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Electricity Act 1989;

(2971)4. Wireless Telegraphy (Visiting Ships and Aircraft) Regulations 1998, laid under the

Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949; (2970)5. (i) Statute made by the University of Cambridge on 21st August 1998— (—)

(ii) Statute made by Trinity College, Cambridge on 8th May 1998— (—)(iii) Statute made by King’s College, Cambridge on 26th June 1998— (—)

laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923.

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Radiological Protection Board, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Radiological ProtectionAct 1970;

2. Report for 1997–98 of the Rural Development Commission, laid under the MiscellaneousFinancial Provisions Act 1983;

3. Statement by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport appointing ViscountRunciman of Doxford CBE to the Board of the British Library for three years from 1stJanuary 1999, laid under the British Library Act 1972;

4. Account for 1997–98 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel, laid underthe Criminal Injuries Compensation Act 1995.

Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.

Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

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Public Business

5. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—A bill to establish the Legal Services Commission, the CommunityLegal Service and the Criminal Defence Service; to amend the law of legal aid in Scotland; tomake further provision about legal services; to make provision about appeals (including casesstated) and applications for habeas corpus and the reporting of court proceedings; to amendthe law about magistrates and magistrates’ courts; and to make provision about immunityfrom action and costs and indemnities for certain oYcials exercising judicial functions waspresented by the Lord Chancellor, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 4)

6. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 4–EN)

7. The Queen’s Speech—The debate was resumed on the Motion that an Humble Address bepresented to Her Majesty as follows:

“Most Gracious Sovereign,We, Your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal inParliament assembled, beg leave to thank Your Majesty for the most gracious Speechwhich Your Majesty has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.”;

after further debate, the motion was agreed to nemine dissentiente and it was ordered that theAddress be presented to Her Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past nine o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

Die Jovis 3) Decembris 1998

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berners, B.Birdwood, L.

Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.

Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.

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Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dulverton, L.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gibson-Watt, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.

Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inge, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.

Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.

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Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parkinson, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Ellesmere, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1. White and others (Respondents) v. Chief Constable of South Yorkshire and others(Appellants)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 31st October 1996 be set aside save as toparagraph 2 relating to Ms Smith and that the Order of Mr Justice Waller of 10th April 1995be restored; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs in the Court ofAppeal and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerkof the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Cook (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Financial Insurance Company Limited (Respondents)—The Reportfrom the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Runcie, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwell, Bp.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torphichen, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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the Court of Appeal of 17th April 1997 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation and that theOrder of His Honour Judge Boggis QC of 15th November 1996 be restored; and that therespondents do pay to the appellant his costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House; that theamount of such last-mentioned costs be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed in accordancewith the Legal Aid Act 1988.

3. Reid (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Appellant) and another (Scotland)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that theInterlocutor of the SecondDivision of theCourt of Session of the 22ndAugust 1997 be recalledand that the Interlocutor of the Lord Ordinary of the 29th May be restored save as to expenses;and that there be no order as to expenses in the Court of Session or as to costs in this House.

4. Krol (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Craig (Respondent) (Scotland)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Interlocutor of the FirstDivision of the Inner House of the Court of Session of the 20th February 1997 be aYrmed andthe appeal dismissed with costs; that the amount of the respondent’s expenses in the Court ofSession and his costs in this House to be paid by the appellant as an assisted person be modifiedto nil under the provisions of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986; that the expenses of therespondent in the Court of Session and his costs in this House be paid out of the Legal AidFund in accordance with section 19 of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986, such order to besuspended for four weeks to allow the Legal Aid Board to object if they wish; and that theamount of the costs in this House be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.

5. Mainwaring and another (Respondents) v. Goldtech Investments Limited (Petitioners) and oneother action (lodged 2nd November)—The petition of Lipkin Gorman (former Solicitors ofGoldtech Investments Limited) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

6. Joyce (Respondent) v. Morrissey (Petitioner) and others—The petition of Steven Morrisseypraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

7. Adams (Petitioner) v. Home OYce (Respondent) (lodged 2nd June)—The petition of TerryMichael Adams praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, suchfee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the saidpetition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

8. Pearce and another (Petitioners) v. United Bristol Healthcare NHS Trust (Respondents) (lodged19th June)—The petition of Tina Marie Pearce and Kevin Douglas Pearce praying for leave toappeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the AppealCommittee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an AppealCommittee.

9. Smith and another (Petitioners) v. London Borough of Hackney (Respondents) (lodged 7thApril)—The petition of Tony Uriah Smith and Owen Smith praying for leave to appeal waspresented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committeepursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

10. Weston (Petitioner) v. South Coast Nursing Homes Limited (Respondents) (lodged 25th May)—The petition of Lorraine Patricia Weston praying for leave to appeal was presented withoutpayment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant toStanding Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

11. O’Neill and another (A.P.) (Respondents) v. Phillips and others (Appellants)—The appeal wasset down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

12. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home OYce (Respondent) ex parte Rajaratnam (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant (lodged 2nd December) praying that the time forlodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extendedto 13th January next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and itwas ordered as prayed.

13. In re B (a minor) (A.P.) (Appellant)—The petition of the appellant (lodged 2nd December) prayingthat the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearingmight be extended to 8th January next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

14. Oksuzoglu (by Alev Ahmet his mother and next friend) (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Kay and another(Respondents)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

15. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 85th Report, Session1997–98—Regina v. Martin (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given on the disclosure aYdavit pointonly, and that the petition of appeal be lodged forthwith.

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Steed (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given on conditionthat the petitioner do pay the respondent’s costs in any event and that the petition of appealbe lodged by 17th December next.

16. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 95th Report, Session1997–98—Jolley (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents)—That leave to appeal begiven, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 17th December next.Lubbe and others (Respondents) v. Cape Industries plc (Petitioners)—That the petition bereferred for hearing.

17. Appeal Committee—The 2nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB)(Respondents) v. Stargas Limited and others (Respondents) and Bergesen D.Y. A/S ‘BergeSisar’ (Petitioners)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 17th Decembernext.Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB)(Petitioners) v. Stargas Limited and others (Respondents)—That the respondents be invitedto lodge objections by 17th December next.Adams (Petitioner) v. Home OYce (Respondent)—That the petition be dismissed asinadmissible.Pearce and another (Petitioners) v. United Bristol Healthcare NHS Trust (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Smith and another (Petitioners) v. London Borough of Hackney (Respondents)—That leaveto appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Weston (Petitioner) v. South Coast Nursing Homes Limited (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

18. Appeal Committee—The 3rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Petitioners)—That therespondent be invited to lodge objections by 17th December next.National Power plc (Respondents) v. National Grid Company plc (Petitioners)—That leaveto appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Crawley Borough Council (Petitioners) v. Bradford & Bingley Building Society(Respondents) and others—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at libertyto apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted,that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.Oksuzoglu (by Alev Ahmet his mother and next friend) (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Kay andanother (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty toapply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, thatthe amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.Hayter (Respondent) v. Long and another (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused.B (by his mother and next friend) (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions(Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 17th December next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

19. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 1st December, waswithdrawn:Draft Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998.

20. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Education—Teachers–Meeting the Challenge of Change: Government consultationdocument. (4164)

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21. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998.

22. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Carriage of Dangerous Goods (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Health

and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974; (2885)2. (i) Airports (Groundhandling) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (2918)

(ii) Cattle Identification (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (2969)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

3. Department of Health and Welsh OYce Code of Practice on the Mental Health Act 1983,laid under the Mental Health Act 1983; (—)

4. Insurance Companies (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the InsuranceCompanies Act 1982. (2996)

23. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1997–98 of the Deer Commission for Scotland, laid under the Deer (Scotland)

Act 1996;(ii) Report for 1997 – 98 of English Nature, laid under the Environmental Protection Act

1990;(iii) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by Epsom Healthcare National Health Service Trust fromBarclays Bank plc, laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act1990.

Public Business

24. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision for the enforcement ofcontractual terms by third parties was presented by the Lord Chancellor, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 5)

25. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relatingto the bill be printed. (HL Bill 5–EN)

26. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the law relating to the delegation of trustee functionsby power of attorney and the exercise of such functions by the donee of a power of attorneyand to make provision about the authority of the donee of a power of attorney to act inrelation to land was presented by the Lord Chancellor, read a first time and ordered to beprinted. (HL Bill 6)

27. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 6–EN)

28. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—A bill to provide for the referral of oVenders under18 to youth oVender panels; to make provision in connection with the giving of evidence orinformation for the purposes of criminal proceedings; and for connected purposes waspresented by the Lord Williams of Mostyn, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HLBill 7)

29. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relatingto the bill be printed. (HL Bill 7–EN)

30. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—A bill to establish a Disability Rights Commission andmake provision as to its functions; and for connected purposes was presented by the BaronessBlackstone, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 8)

31. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to thebill be printed. (HL Bill 8–EN)

32. European Parliamentary Elections Bill—A bill to amend the European Parliamentary ElectionsAct 1978 so as to alter the method used in Great Britain for electing Members of the EuropeanParliament; to make other amendments of enactments relating to the election of Members ofthe European Parliament; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, reada first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 9)

33. Parliamentary Privilege—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Commonsmessage of Monday last be now considered and that a Select Committee of six Lords beappointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons, as the Joint Committee onParliamentary Privilege, to review parliamentary privilege and make recommendationsthereon;

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That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Archer of Sandwell L. Nicholls of BirkenheadL. Mayhew of Twysden L. WaddingtonL. Merlyn-Rees L. Wigoder;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of aChairman;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the proceedings of the Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege in the last session ofParliament be referred to the Committee;

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if theCommittee think fit, be printed and delivered out; and

That the Attorney General, the Lord Advocate, the Solicitor General and the SolicitorGeneral for Scotland, being members of either House, may attend the Committee, may takepart in deliberations, may receive Committee papers and may give such other assistance to theCommittee as may be appropriate, but shall not vote or make any motion or move anyamendment or be counted in the quorum;

after debate, the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commonsto acquaint them therewith.

34. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a SelectCommittee be appointed to report whether the provisions of any bill inappropriately delegatelegislative power; to report on documents laid before Parliament under section 3(3) of theDeregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and on draft orders laid under section 1(4) of thatAct; and to perform, in respect of such documents and orders, the functions performed inrespect of other instruments by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments;

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Alexander of Weedon L. Goodhart(Chairman) L. Mayhew of Twysden

L. Ampthill L. Merlyn-ReesL. Archer of Sandwell L. Prys-DaviesL. Dahrendorf L. Waddington;L. Dean of Harptree

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees;

That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to adjourn from place to place withinthe United Kingdom;

That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purpose of serving on theCommittee or a sub-committee;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee or any sub-committee shall, if theCommittee think fit, be printed and delivered out;

That the Committee do meet on Wednesday 9th December at half-past ten o’clock;

the motion was agreed to.

35. European Communities—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committeebe appointed to consider Community proposals, whether in draft or otherwise, to obtain allnecessary information about them, and to make reports on those which, in the opinion of theCommittee, raise important questions of policy or principle, and on other questions to whichthe Committee considers that the special attention of the House should be drawn;

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Berkeley L. Hussey of North BradleyV. Bledisloe B. O’CathainL. Borrie L. ReayV. Brookeborough L. TomlinsonE. Cranbrook L. TordoVL. Geddes (Chairman)L. Gisborough B. UddinL. Goodhart L. Wallace of SaltaireL. Grenfell L. WalpoleL. Hope of Craighead L. Willoughby de Broke;L. Howell of Guildford

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That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and to refer to such sub-committees any of the matters within the terms of reference of the Committee; that theCommittee have power to appoint the Chairmen of sub-committees, but that such sub-committees have power to appoint their own Chairman for the purpose of particular enquiries;that two be the quorum of such sub-committees;That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purpose of serving on a sub-committee;That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to adjourn from place to place;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the Reports of the Select Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstandingany adjournment of the House;That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee or any sub-committee from time totime shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed and delivered out;That the minutes of evidence taken before the European Communities Committee or any sub-committee in the last session of Parliament be referred to the Committee;That the Committee do meet on Tuesday 8th December at a quarter-past four o’clock;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

36. Public Service—It was moved by the Lord Slynn of Hadley that this House take note of the Reportof the Select Committee on the Public Service (HL Paper 55, Session 1997–98); after debate,the motion was agreed to.

37. Cannabis (S&T Report)—It was moved by the Lord Perry of Walton that this House take note ofthe Report of the Science and Technology Committee on Cannabis: the scientific and medicalevidence (9th Report, HL Paper 151, Session 1997–98); after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes before eleven o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.

Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Cairns, E.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.

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Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.

Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.GoV of Chieveley, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.

Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lowry, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.

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Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Barclays Bank plc (Respondents) v. Harris and another (A.P.) (Petitioner) (lodged 15thOctober)—The petition of Beryl Irene Harris praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

2. T G A Chapman Limited and others (Respondents) v. Christopher and others (Appellants)—Thepetition of the appellants praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreed betweenthe parties (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 84th Report, Session 1997–98:General of Berne Insurance Company (Petitioners) v. Jardine Reinsurance ManagementLimited (formerly Jardine Thompson Graham (Underwriting Management) Limited) andothers (Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runcie, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.

Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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4. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 94th Report, Session 1997–98:Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’sBenefits Plan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-Canadian Master Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) andothers (Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Petitioners) and others—That the petition be referred for hearing.

5. Appeal Committee—The 4th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Docker and others (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Chief Constable of the West Midlands Police(Respondent)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 21st December next.

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Sport—Report for 1997–98 of the Scottish Sports Council; (—)2. Prisons—Government Reply to the 3rd Report of the House of Commons Home AVairs

Committee, Session 1997–98, on Alternatives to Prison Sentences. (4174)

7. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 4th December, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Non-automatic Weighing Instruments (EEC Requirements) (Amendment) Regulations

1998, laid under the Weights and Measures Act 1985; (2994)2. Hallmarking (Hallmarking Act Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972; (2798)3. Hallmarking (Hallmarking Act Amendment) Order 1998, laid under the Hallmarking

Act 1973. (2979)

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Non-Domestic Rating Contributions (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1998—

(2962)(ii) Non-Domestic Rating (Rural Settlements) (Wales) Order 1998— (2963)

laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988;2. Superannuation (Admission to Schedule 1 to the Superannuation Act 1972) (No. 3)

Order 1998, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972. (3030)

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Local Government Residuary Body (England),

laid under the Local Government Residuary Body (England) Order 1995;2. Notice of appointment of Councillor Donald Anderson to the Scottish Tourist Board

with eVect from 1st December 1998, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Library of Wales, together with the Report of the

Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;4. Draft Code of Practice for the exercise by Police OYcers of statutory powers of stop and

search, laid under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984.

Public Business

10. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington (Lord Privy Seal) thatStanding Order 38 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with tomorrow so far as isnecessary to allow the motion standing in the name of the Lord Gilbert to be taken before thetwo draft Orders standing in the name of the Lord Williams of Mostyn; the motion wasagreed to.

11. Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England—It was moved by the Chairman ofCommittees that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be namedof the Committee:

L. Barnett L. Peston (Chairman)L. Burns L. TebbitL. Ezra L. Thomas of MacclesfieldL. Newby L. VinsonB. O’Cathain V. Weir;L. Paul

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That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the Committee do meet on Wednesday 9th December at half-past ten oclock;the motion was agreed to.

12. Deputy Chairmen of Committees—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that, asproposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be appointed as the panel ofLords to act as Deputy Chairmen of Committees for this session:

L. Aberdare L. LyellV. Allenby of Megiddo L. McColl of DulwichL. Ampthill L. McIntosh of HaringeyL. Brougham and Vaux C. MarL. Burnham L. Murton of LindisfarneL. Carter B. NicolL. Chesham V. OxfuirdL. Cocks of HartcliVe V. St. DavidsB. Cox B. SerotaL. Dean of Harptree V. SimonL. Elliott of Morpeth L. SkelmersdaleL. Elton L. StrabolgiL. Graham of Edmonton L. StrathclydeB. Hooper B. Turner of Camden;B. Lockwood

the motion was agreed to.

13. Parliamentary Privilege—It was ordered that a message be sent to the Commons to propose thatthe Committee appointed by them do meet with the Committee appointed by this House asthe Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege at ten o’clock on Tuesday 8th December inCommittee Room 4.

14. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to andthe bill was committed to a Grand Committee.

15. Fair Employment and Treatment (Northern Ireland) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubsthat the draft Order laid before the House on 30th November be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

16. Parliamentary Privilege—A message was brought from the Commons that they have ordered thatthe Committee appointed by them do meet with the Lords Committee on Tuesday 8thDecember at ten o’clock in Committee Room 4, as proposed by this House.

17. Rates (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that thedraft Order laid before the House on 12th November be approved; after debate, the motionwas agreed to.

18. Parliamentary Constituencies (England) (Miscellaneous Changes) Order 1998—It was moved bythe Lord Hoyle that the draft Order laid before the House on 4th November be approved; themotion was agreed to.

19. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

20. Local authorities: age of candidates—The Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer asked HerMajesty’s Government whether they will consider lowering the minimum age for candidatesstanding in local elections to eighteen; after debate, the question was answered by the LordWilliams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes past eight o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackburn, Bp.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.

Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cottesloe, L.Cox, B.

Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fisher of Rednal, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.

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Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grantley, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hives, L.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.

Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leconfield and Egremont, L.Leicester, E.Leigh, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lothian, M.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.

Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Owen, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rea, L.Reay, L.

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Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

1. Lord Crawshaw—David Gerald Lord Crawshaw sat first in Parliament after the death of hisbrother, William Michael Clifton Lord Crawshaw, having first taken and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Morgan and others (Respondents) v. Morris (Petitioner) and one other action—The petition ofJohn Joseph Morris praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

3. London Borough of Southwark (Respondents) and another v. Tanner and others (A.P.)(Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

4. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 99th Report, Session 1997–98:Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court and Allison (Respondent) ex parte Government ofthe United States of America (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petitionof appeal be lodged forthwith.

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the First Report:Walker (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Centaur Clothes Group Limited(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 22ndDecember next.

Papers

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.

Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vincent of Coleshill, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigram, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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1. (i) Pesticides (Maximum Residue Levels in Crops, Food and Feeding StuVs)(Amendment) Regulations 1998— (2922)

(ii) Statistics of Trade (Customs and Excise) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (2973)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

2. National Health Service (Pharmaceutical Services) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations1998, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; (3031)

3. Special Trustees for Newcastle University Hospital (Transfer of Trust Property) Order1998, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; (3028)

4. Statutes made by—(i) Downing College, Cambridge on 29th May 1998— (—)(ii) Exeter College, Oxford on 15th July 1998— (—)(iii) the University of Oxford on 21st May 1998— (—)

laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923.

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement by the Secretary of State for Environment, Transport and the Regions on the

pay of Members of the British Railways Board, laid under the Transport Act 1962;2. Report for 1997–98 of the Chief Electoral OYcer for Northern Ireland, laid under the

Electoral Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1962.

Select Committee Reports

8. Statutory Instruments—The 2nd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Town and Country Planning (Minerals) (Scotland) Regulations 1998 (S.I. 1998/2913);Town and Country Planning (Compensation for Restrictions on Mineral Working andMineral Waste Depositing) (Scotland) Regulations 1998 (S.I. 1998/2914);Draft Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998;Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 1999;Draft Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Prescribed Proceedings) Amendment (No. 2)Regulations 1998;Draft Advice and Assistance (Assistance by Way of Representation) (Scotland)Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 5)

9. European Communities—The First Report from the Select Committee, Evidence by the Ministerof State, Foreign and Commonwealth OYce, on the CardiV European Council, was made; itwas ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 6)

Public Business

10. Science and Technology—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committeebe appointed to consider science and technology and that, as proposed by the Committee ofSelection, the following Lords be named of the Select Committee:

L. Birdwood B. Platt of WrittleL. Haskel L. Porter of LuddenhamB. Hogg L. Ponsonby of ShulbredeL. Howie of Troon L. ReaL. Jenkin of Roding L. Soulsby of SwaVham PriorL. Kirkwood L. TombsL. Nathan L. Walton of DetchantL. Perry of Walton L. Winston (Chairman);L. Phillips of Ellesmere

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and that the Committee havepower to appoint the Chairmen of sub-committees;That the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purposes of serving on theCommittee or any sub-committee;That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to adjourn from place to place;That the Committee and any sub-committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee or any sub-committee from time totime shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed and delivered out; and

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That the Committee do meet on Tuesday 15th December at a quarter-before eleven o’clock;the motion was agreed to.

11. Defence—It was moved by the Lord Gilbert that this House take note of the conclusions of HerMajesty’s Government’s Strategic Defence Review (Cm 3999); after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

12. Police Act 1997 (Authorisation of Action in Respect of Property) (Code of Practice) Order 1998—

13. Police Act 1997 (Notification of Authorisations etc.) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that the draft Orders laid before the House on19th November be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

14. Sudan—The Baroness Cox asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their policy towards recentdevelopments in Sudan; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons ofVernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Mercurii 9) Decembris 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.

Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.

Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chadlington, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.

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Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.

Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCluskey, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manchester, Bp.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.

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Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Mahomed (Respondent) v. Bank of Baroda (Petitioners)—The petition of the Bank of Barodapraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Burridge (Respondent) v. London Borough of Harrow (Appellants) and others—The petition ofthe appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 21st January next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerleyton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Sterling of Plaistow, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.

Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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3. Appeal Committee—The 5th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Regina v. Collins and Pathfinder Mental Health Services NHS Trust and others (Petitioners)ex parte S (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 23rdDecember next.St George’s Healthcare NHS Trust (Petitioners) v. S (Respondent)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 23rd December next.White (Petitioner) v. White (Respondent)—That the petition be referred for hearing.White (Petitioner) v. White (Respondent) (Second petition)—That the petition be referredfor hearing.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Group Distribution Limited(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply forhis costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Group Distribution Limited(No. 2) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty toapply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, thatthe amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Limited (now Dixons StoresGroup Limited) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be atliberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application isgranted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Limited (now Dixons StoresGroup Limited) (No 2) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent beat liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application isgranted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Group plc (Petitioners)—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Group plc (No. 2) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Photographic InvestmentsLimited (now Dixons Investments Limited) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused;that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and,if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.Sarsfield (H M Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Dixons Photographic InvestmentsLimited (now Dixons Investments Limited) (No 2) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Barclays Bank plc (Petitioners) v. Dean and others (Respondents) and two other actions—That the petition be referred for hearing.Regina v. Broadmoor Special Hospital Authority and another (Respondents) ex parte S andanother (Petitioners) and another—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents beat liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application isgranted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Regina v. West Dorset District Council (Respondents) ex parte Searle (Petitioner)—That therespondents be invited to lodge objections by 23rd December next.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Air Services—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Croatia concerning Air Services.

(4163)

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

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1. Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (No. 5) Order 1998, laid underthe Local Authorities (Goods and Services) Act 1970; (2956)

2. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Lichfield DistrictCouncil) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1988; (2955)

3. (i) Crown Court (Modification) Rules 1998— (3047)(ii) Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (Dismissal of Charges Sent) Rules 1998— (3048)(iii) Rules of the Supreme Court (Amendment No. 2) 1998— (3049)

laid under the Supreme Court Act 1981;4. Magistrates’ Courts (Modification) Rules 1998, laid under the Magistrates’ Courts Act

1980; (3046)5. General Teaching Council for Wales Order 1998, laid under the Teaching and Higher

Education Act 1998; (2911)6. (i) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Data Marine Systems Limited)

Order 1998— (3002)(ii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Internet Network Services Limited)

Order 1998— (3011)(iii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (MLL Telecom Limited) Order

1998— (3012)(iv) Public Telecommunication System Designation (International Computers Limited)

Order 1998— (3013)(v) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Qwest Communications

International Limited) Order 1998— (3014)(vi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Witley Communications Limited)

Order 1998— (3015)(vii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Teleport London International

Limited) Order 1998— (3010)(viii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Viatel UK Limited) Order 1998—

(3009)(ix) Public Telecommunication System Designation (NorSea Com A/S) Order 1998—

(3019)(x) Public Telecommunication System Designation (The JNT Association) Order

1998— (3018)(xi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (EGN BV) Order 1998— (3017)(xii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (International Telecommunications

Group Inc) Order 1998— (3016)(xiii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (VersaTel Telecom BV) Order

1998— (3023)(xiv) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Telecom One Limited) Order

1998— (3020)(xv) Public Telecommunication System Designation (UTG Communications (Europe)

AG) Order 1998— (3022)(xvi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Ibercom Limited) Order 1998—

(3004)(xvii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (International Telecom Plc) Order

1998— (3021)(xviii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (NETs Limited) Order 1998—

(3001)(xix) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Worldport Communications

Limited) Order 1998— (3006)(xx) Public Telecommunication System Designation (KPN Telecom UK Limited) Order

1998— (3007)(xxi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Storm Telecommunications

Limited) Order 1998— (3005)(xxii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Cignal Global Communications

U.K. Limited) Order 1998— (3008)(xxiii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (PT–1 Communications UK

Limited) Order 1998— (3003)laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984;

7. Foreign Satellite Service Proscription (No. 2) Order 1998, laid under the BroadcastingAct 1990. (3083)

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6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1997–98 of the Lord Chancellor’s Advisory Committee on Legal Education

and Conduct, laid under the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990;2. Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Non-EVective Benefits and Family Pensions) Order

1998, laid under the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865;3. Licences granted by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to—

(i) Data Marine Systems Limited—(ii) Internet Network Services Limited—(iii) MLL Telecom Limited—(iv) International Computers Limited—(v) Qwest Communications International Limited—(vi) Witley Communications Limited—(vii) Teleport London International Limited—(viii) Viatel UK Limited—(ix) NorSea Com A/S—(x) The JNT Association—(xi) EGN BV—(xii) International Telecommunications Group Inc—(xiii) VersaTel Telecom BV—(xiv) Telecom One Limited—(xv) UTG Communications (Europe) AG—(xvi) Ibercom Limited—(xvii) International Telecom Plc—(xviii) NETs Limited—(xix) Worldport Communications Limited—(xx) KPN Telecom UK Limited—(xxi) Storm Telecommunications Limited—(xxii) Cignal Global Communications U.K. Limited—(xxiii) PT–1 Communications UK Limited—

laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984;4. Report for 1997–98 of the Medical Research Council, laid under the Science and

Technology Act 1965.

Select Committee Reports

7. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:First Report, on the following bills:

Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [HL] ;Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [HL] ;European Parliamentary Elections Bill; (HL Paper 7)

2nd Report, on the draft Deregulation (Pipe-lines) Order 1999. (HL Paper 8)

8. Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England—A Special Report from the SelectCommittee was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 9)

Public Business

9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn, on behalf of the BaronessJay of Paddington, that the debate on the motion in the name of the Lord Kimball set downfor today shall be limited to 3° hours and that in the name of the Baroness Cumberlege to 2hours; the motion was agreed to.

10. Agriculture (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Kimball that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the future of the agricultural industry against the background of fallsin farm income and in output; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

11. National Health Service (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Cumberlege that there belaid before the House papers relating to rising expectations and advances in medical scienceand their implications for the National Health Service over the next 50 years; after debate, themotion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

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12. Organophosphate sheep dips—The Countess of Mar asked Her Majesty’s Government what istheir response to the report of the Royal College of Physicians and the Royal College ofPsychiatrists on organophosphate sheep dips; after debate, the question was answered by theBaroness Hayman.

The House was adjourned at six minutes before nine o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.

Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Broughshane, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.

Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cromartie, E.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.

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Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.GoV of Chieveley, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.

Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kimberley, E.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCluskey, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.

Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.

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Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rollo, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Ingram and another (Appellants) v. Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents)—TheReport from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that theOrder of the Court of Appeal of 28th July 1997 be set aside and that the Order of Mr JusticeFerris of 17th May 1995 be varied so as to declare that the Notice of Determination dated 10thOctober 1994 be amended so as to substitute for paragraphs 1 to 5 thereof the followingdeclarations: 1. The combined eVect of the transfers and the declarations of trust dated 31stMarch 1987 (“the Declarations of Trust”) was to eVect potentially exempt transfers of valuewhich by virtue of the death of Lady Ingram became chargeable transfers pursuant to sections2, 3 and 3A of the Inheritance Tax Act 1984; 2. The leases are and were at all material timesvalid and enforceable; 3. The value transferred by the potentially exempt transfers referred toin (1.) above was the value of Lady Ingram’s interest as sole beneficial owner of the freeholdsimmediately before the execution of the transfers less the value of the leases immediately aftertheir creation; 4. At all times following the potentially exempt transfers the freehold reversionson the leases were enjoyed to the entire exclusion or virtually the entire exclusion of LadyIngram and of any benefit to her by way of contract or otherwise and accordingly the saidfreehold reversions were not deemed to be included in her estate on her death for inheritancetax purposes by virtue of section 102 of the Finance Act 1986; and that the respondents dopay to the appellants their costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House, the amount of suchlast-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed betweenthe parties.

2. British Telecommunications plc (Appellants) v. James Thomson and Sons (Engineers) Limited(Respondents) (Scotland)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it wasordered and adjudged that the Interlocutor of the Second Division of the Court of Session of13th December 1996 and the Interlocutors of the Lord Ordinary of 7th February 1996 berecalled; that the cause do proceed to a proof before answer and be remitted back to the Courtof Session to proceed as accords; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants theirexpenses of the debate and reclaiming motion in the Court of Session and their costs in thisHouse, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.

Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.

Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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3. In re Pinochet—The petition of Senator Augusto Pinochet Ugarte praying that the opinion of theLord HoVmann in relation to the appeal be declared to be of no eVect and that the Judgmentof the House of 25th November last be vacated, was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. Commercial Union Assurance Company plc and others (Petitioners) v. NRG VictoryReinsurance Limited (Respondents)—Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that therebe no order as to costs.

5. Skandia International Insurance Corporation and others (Petitioners) v. NRG VictoryReinsurance Limited (Respondents)—Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that therebe no order as to costs.

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Salem (A.P.)(Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

7. Appeal Committee—The 6th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Biesheuvel (Respondent) v. Birrell (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.

8. Appeal Committee—The 7th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:In re Pinochet—That the petition be referred for hearing.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

9. Lord Rollo (Lord Dunning)—David Eric Howard Lord Rollo (Lord Dunning) sat first inParliament after the death of his father, Eric John Stapylton Lord Rollo, having first takenand subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

10. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Libraries—Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Library of Wales; (—)2. Tobacco—Smoking Kills: A White Paper on Tobacco. (4177)

11. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Companies (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998; (3088)2. Open-Ended Investment Companies (Investment Companies with Variable Capital)

(Fees) Regulations 1998. (3087)

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Registration of Ships) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under

the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (2976)2. Civil Aviation (Navigation Services Charges) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under

the Civil Aviation Act 1982; (2975)3. Non-Domestic Rating Contributions (England) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid

under the Local Government Finance Act 1988; (3038)4. Home Repair Assistance (Extension) Regulations 1998, laid under the Housing Grants,

Construction and Regeneration Act 1996; (2998)5. Housing (Right to Buy) (Limits on Discount) Order 1998, laid under the Housing Act

1985; (2997)6. Five Statutes made by Magdalen College, Oxford on 13th February, laid under the

Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923; (—)7. Vehicle Excise Duty (Reduced Pollution) Regulations 1998, laid under the Vehicle Excise

and Registration Act 1994; (3094)8. Motor Vehicles (Type Approval of Reduced Pollution Adaptations) Regulations 1998,

laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988; (3093)9. (i) BSE OVspring Slaughter Regulations 1998— (3070)

(ii) Consumer Protection (Cancellation of Contracts Concluded away from BusinessPremises) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (3050)

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(iii) Industry Act 1975 (Prohibition and Vesting Order) Regulations 1998— (3035)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

10. Reserve Forces Act 1996 (Consequential Provisions etc.) Regulations 1998, laid under theReserve Forces Act 1996; (3086)

11. Wireless Telegraphy Appeal Tribunal Rules 1998, laid under the Wireless Telegraphy Act1949; (3036)

12. National Health Service (Choice of Dental Practitioner) (Scotland) AmendmentRegulations 1998, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; (3052)

13. Grants for Improvements in School Education (Scotland) Regulations 1998, laid underthe Education (Scotland) Act 1980; (3051)

14. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (Northumbria) Amalgamation (Amendment) Order1998, laid under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997; (3108)

15. Justices’ Clerks (Qualifications of Assistants) (Amendment) Rules 1998, laid under theMagistrates’ Courts Act 1980. (3107)

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Residential care of Handicapped Persons under the age of 65 in England and Wales—Statements for 1996–97, laid under the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970;

2. 1997 Birth Statistics for England and Wales, laid under the Registration Service Act1953;

3. Second Report of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration: Selected casesApril–October 1998, laid under the Parliamentary Commissioner Act 1967;

4. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Qualifications, Curriculum and AssessmentAuthority for Wales, laid under the Education Act 1997;

5. Change 2 to the Regulations for the Naval and Marine Reserve (BR64), laid under theReserve Forces Act 1996;

6. Report for 1997–98 of the OYce of the Subsidence Adviser, laid under the Coal IndustryAct 1994.

Public Business

14. Freedom of Information Bill [hl]—A bill to extend the right of access to information held by publicauthorities; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Lucas, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 10)

15. House of Lords’ OYces—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Select Committeeon the House of Lords’ OYces be appointed and that, as proposed by the Committee ofSelection, the following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of theCommittee:

L. Brabazon of Tara L. Mackay of ArdbrecknishL. Brougham and Vaux L. MarshE. Caithness B. NicolL. Carter Bp. OxfordL. Colwyn L. Renfrew of KaimsthornB. Darcy de Knayth L. Rodgers of Quarry BankL. Dean of Beswick B. SeccombeL. Dholakia B. SerotaL. Dixon L. StrathclydeL. Harris of Greenwich B. Thomas of WalliswoodL. Henley L. TordoVB. Hilton of Eggardon V. UllswaterL. Hunt of Wirral L. WeatherillL. Irvine of Lairg (Lord Chancellor) L. Williams of Mostyn;B. Jay of Paddington (Lord Privy Seal)

the motion was agreed to.

16. Procedure of the House—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Select Committeeon Procedure of the House be appointed and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection,the following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:

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B. Anelay of St. Johns B. Jay of PaddingtonL. Browne-Wilkinson (Lord Privy Seal)L. Burlison L. Mackay of ArdbrecknishL. Burnham L. Mackay of ClashfernE. Caithness B. Rendell of BaberghL. Carter L. Rodgers of Quarry BankL. Denham E. ShannonE. Ferrers L. SkelmersdaleL. Gladwin of Clee L. StrabolgiB. Gould of Potternewton L. StrathclydeB. Hamwee L. TordoVL. Harris of Greenwich L. WeatherillL. Henley L. Williams of MostynL. Irvine of Lairg (Lord Chancellor) B. Young;

the motion was agreed to.

17. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the BaronessHollis of Heigham that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreedto and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

18. Central America: hurricane—The Viscount Montgomery of Alamein asked Her Majesty’sGovernment what progress has been made towards alleviating the devastation caused by therecent hurricane in Central America; after debate, the question was answered by theBaroness Amos.

The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes past seven o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.

Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.

Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.

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Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Enniskillen, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.

Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.

Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.

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Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Palumbo, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Steed (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Appellant) (England)—The appeal of the Home OYce waspresented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement andappendix thereto be lodged on or before 25th January next.

2. White (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. White and the Motor Insurers Bureau (Respondents)—The petitionof Brian White praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Regina v. Governor of Her Majesty’s Prison Brockhill (Appellant) ex parte Evans(Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

4. Jolley (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents)—The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

5. Appeal Committee—The 8th Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they had metand had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:Regina v. Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions (Respondent)ex parte Marson (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; and that the petitioner do pay

Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.

Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Woolf, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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to the respondent the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Berkeley (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given except on the costs issue, and that the petition of appeal belodged by 28th December next.General of Berne Insurance Company (Petitioners) v. Jardine Reinsurance ManagementLimited (formerly Jardine Thompson Graham (Underwriting Management) Limited) andothers (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; and that the petitioners do pay to therespondents the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.Lubbe and others (Respondents) v. Cape Industries plc (Petitioners)—That leave to appealbe refused; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, theamount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

6. Appeal Committee—The 9th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Regina v. Newbury District Council and others (Respondents) ex parte Chieveley ParishCouncil (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty toapply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, thatthe amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.Scandecor Development AB (Petitioners) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others(Respondents) and one other action—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by28th December next.Holland (Petitioner) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited tolodge objections by 28th December next.Wade (Petitioner) v. Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Powys County Council and another (Respondents) ex parte Hambidge (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; and that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c), and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties,and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.Pritchard (Respondent) v. Cook (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.

Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Voluntary Sector—Building Real Partnership: Compact Between Government And The

Voluntary And Community Sector In Northern Ireland; (4167)2. Child Migrants—Government Response to the 3rd Report of the House of Commons

Health Committee, Session 1997–98, on the Welfare of Former British Child Migrants.(4182)

8. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 11th December, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. (i) Education (Government of New Schools on Transition to New Framework)

Regulations— (3097)(ii) North Southwark Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3057)(iii) South Tyneside Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3058)(iv) Birmingham (Aston and Nechells) Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3066)(v) Birmingham (Kitts Green and Shard End) Education Action Zone Order 1998—

(3062)(vi) East Brighton Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3054)(vii) Kingston upon Hull (Bransholme Area) Education Action Zone Order 1998—

(3063)(viii) East Basildon Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3065)(ix) Plymouth Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3060)(x) North East SheYeld Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3059)

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(xi) Leigh Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3056)(xii) Thetford Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3055)(xiii) Halifax Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3064)(xiv) Nottingham (Bulwell) Education Action Zone Order 1998— (3061)

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;2. Medicines (Pharmacies) (Applications for Registration and Fees) Amendment

Regulations 1998, laid under the Medicines Act 1968; (3085)3. (i) Medicines for Human Use (Marketing Authorisations Etc.) Amendment

Regulations 1998— (3105)(ii) Friendly Societies (Insurance Business) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (3034)

laid under the laid under the European Communities Act 1972;4. Afan College (Dissolution) Order 1998, laid under the Further and Higher Education Act

1992; (2967)5. Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (Service of Prosecution Evidence) Regulations 1998, laid

under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998; (3115)6. Register of Sasines (Registers Direct) Regulations 1998, laid under the Register of Sasines

Act 1987; (3099)7. Land Registration (Scotland) Amendment Rules 1998, laid under the Land Registration

(Scotland) Act 1979; (3100)8. Local Government OYcers (Political Restrictions) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid

under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989; (3116)9. (i) Civil Aviation (Route Charges for Navigation Services) (Second Amendment)

Regulations 1998— (2999)(ii) Civil Aviation (Joint Financing) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (3000)

laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982;10. (i) Road Vehicles (Authorised Weight) Regulations 1998— (3111)

(ii) Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 7) Regulations 1998—(3112)

(iii) Goods Vehicles (Plating and Testing) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1998—(3113)

laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988;11. Revenue Support Grant (Specified Bodies) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under

the Local Government Finance Act 1988; (2995)12. General Optical Council (Membership) Order of Council 1998, laid under the Opticians

Act 1989. (3117)

9. Deregulation—The following order was laid before the House for approval by resolution undersection 1(4) of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the DelegatedPowers and Deregulation Committee:Draft Deregulation (Weights and Measures) Order 1999.

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Social Security (Claims and Payments) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid under

the Social Security Administration Act 1992; (3039)2. Prosecution of OVences (Custody Time Limits) (Modification) Regulations 1998, laid

under the Prosecution of OVences Act 1985; (3037)3. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (Avon and Somerset) Amalgamation Order 1998, laid

under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997; (3133)4. Non-Domestic Rating (Collection and Enforcement) (Local Lists) (Amendment)

Regulations 1998, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988. (3089)

Public Business

11. Liaison Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee beappointed to advise the House on the resources required for select committee work and toallocate resources between select committees; to review the select committee work of theHouse; to consider requests for ad hoc committees and report to the House withrecommendations; to ensure eVective co-ordination between the two Houses; and to considerthe availability of Lords to serve on committees;

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That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with theChairman of Committees be named of the Committee:

L. Allen of Abbeydale L. Rodgers of Quarry BankL. Clinton-Davis L. StrathclydeB. Jay of Paddington L. WeatherillL. Kimball L. WigoderL. Morris of Castle Morris B. Young;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;the motion was agreed to.

12. Standing Orders (Private Bills)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a SelectCommittee on the Standing Orders relating to private bills be appointed and that, as proposedby the Committee of Selection, the following Lords together with the Chairman ofCommittees be named of the Committee:

V. Bridgeman E. KinnoullV. Falkland E. Lloyd-George of DwyforL. Gallacher L. Monkswell;V. Hood

the motion was agreed to.

13. Science and Technology—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees, on behalf of theCommittee of Selection, that the Lord Quirk be appointed a member of the Select Committeein the place of the Lord Phillips of Ellesmere; the motion was agreed to.

14. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that the bill be now read a secondtime; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

15. Town and Country Planning (Minerals) (Scotland) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the LordMacdonald of Tradeston that the Order laid before the House on 25th November beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

16. Town and Country Planning (Compensation for Restrictions on Mineral Working and MineralWaste depositing) (Scotland) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Macdonald ofTradeston that the Regulations laid before the House on 25th November be approved; themotion was agreed to.

17. Functions of TraYc Wardens (Scotland) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Macdonald ofTradeston that the draft Order laid before the House on 5th November be approved; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

18. NATO—The Lord Kennet asked Her Majesty’s Government to what extent they think NATOactions “out of area” must be in accordance with United Nations and Organisation forSecurity and Co-operation in Europe resolutions and international law; after debate, thequestion was answered by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at three minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldenham, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.

Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber of Tewkesbury, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

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Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.

Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.

Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hambro, L.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemingford, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.

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Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Limerick, E.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.

Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.

Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Palumbo, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillimore, L.Phillips of Ellesmere, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Ridley, V.Ritchie of Dundee, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Robertson of Oakridge, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rodney, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.

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St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

1. Lord Trevor—Mark Charles Lord Trevor sat first in Parliament after the death of his father,Charles Edwin Lord Trevor, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Jolley (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents) (England)—The appeal ofJustin Edward Jolley was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 26th January next.

3. Dawson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Wearmouth (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of MarkRichard Bolden Dawson was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 26th January next. Theappellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

4. Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—The petitionof Muhit Khan praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

5. Islam (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—

6. Regina v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal and another (Respondents) ex parte Shah (A.P.)(Appellant)—(Conjoined Appeals)—The petition of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees was presented prayingthat he might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals (the agents for the appellantsand the respondents not consenting thereto) and was referred to an Appeal Committee.

7. Appeal Committee—The 10th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Wildtree Hotels Limited and others (Appellants) v. London Borough of Harrow(Respondents)—The petition that the appeal be restored was allowed subject to the sumrequired by Standing Order for security for costs being lodged by 29th December next.

Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trevor, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.

Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Papers

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Pensions —A new contract for welfare: Partnership in Pensions: Government consultationdocument; (4179)

2. Non-Departmental Public Bodies—Report for 1998 on Executive Non-DepartmentalPublic Bodies. (4157)

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice No. 5) Order 1998.

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Building (Local Authority Charges) Regulations 1998, laid under the Building Act 1984;(3129)

2. Sole, Plaice and Other Species (Specified Sea Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) Order 1998,laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967; (3118)

3. Statute made by the University of Oxford on 22nd June, laid under the Universities ofOxford and Cambridge Act 1923; (—)

4. Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations1998, laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988. (3154)

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Report for 1997 of Her Majesty’s Inspectors of Explosives for Northern Ireland, laidunder the Explosives Act 1875;

2. Northern Ireland Appropriation Accounts for 1997–98, together with the ConsolidatedFund Services Account and the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General forNorthern Ireland, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1974;

3. Report for 1997–98 of the Council on Tribunals, laid under the Tribunals and InquiriesAct 1992;

4. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Board of Trustees of the Armouries, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Heritage Act1983;

5. Account for 1997–98 of the Natural History Museum, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;

6. Report and Accounts for 1998 of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority,laid under the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990;

7. Statutory Account of Securities held for the National Insurance Fund at 31st March1998, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992.

Select Committee Reports

12. Statutory Instruments—The 3rd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instrument:

Draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 10)

13. European Communities—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee, EC Regulation of GeneticModification in Agriculture, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed, togetherwith the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 11)

Public Business

14. Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [hl]—A bill to amend section 7(4) of the Sea Fisheries(Shellfish) Act 1967 in respect of several fisheries was presented by the Earl of Lindsay, reada first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 11)

15. Privileges—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Committee for Privileges beappointed and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords togetherwith the Chairman of Committees and any four Lords of Appeal be named of the Committee:

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L. Allen of Abbeydale L. NathanL. Campbell of Alloway L. Rodgers of Quarry BankL. Carter L. StrabolgiL. Cledwyn of Penrhos L. StrathclydeL. Henley L. WeatherillL. Glenamara V. WhitelawB. Jay of Paddington L. Wigoder;L. Mowbray and Stourton

That the Committee have power to appoint sub-committees and that such sub-committeeshave power to appoint their own Chairman; andThat the Committee have power to co-opt any Lord for the purposes of serving on any sub-committee;the motion was agreed to.

16. Personal Bills—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee beappointed to consider personal bills and that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, thefollowing Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of the Committee:

L. Astor of Hever L. TemplemanL. Hogg of Cumbernauld L. Wilberforce;L. Meston

the motion was agreed to.

17. Hybrid Instruments—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committee beappointed to consider hybrid instruments and that, as proposed by the Committee ofSelection, the following Lords together with the Chairman of Committees be named of theCommittee:

L. Brougham and Vaux L. MonkswellL. Burnham V. OxfuirdL. Carmichael of Kelvingrove B. Thomas of Walliswood;L. Hayter

the motion was agreed to.

18. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn thatthe bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

19. European Parliamentary Elections Bill—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that thebill be now read a second time; then it was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish as anamendment thereto, to leave out all the words after “that” and insert “this House declines togive the European Parliamentary Elections Bill a Second Reading on the grounds that itincludes an undemocratic “closed list” system providing for the selection of MEPs by partychoice, an approach which would end the historic right of the British people to choose thecandidates they wish to be elected, a step for which the House notes with great concern nomandate was sought or given at the last General Election.”; after debate, the amendment wasagreed to (see division list).

The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, a quarter-before two o’clock for judicial business,

half-past two o’clock for public business.

DIVISION

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, as an amendment to the motion That the bill benow read a Second time, to leave out all the words after “That” and insert “this House declines to givethe European Parliamentary Elections Bill a Second Reading on the grounds that it includes anundemocratic “closed list” system providing for the selection of MEPs by party choice, an approachwhich would end the historic right of the British people to choose the candidates they wish to be elected,a step for which the House notes with great concern no mandate was sought or given at the last GeneralElection,”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 167

Not-Contents … … … … … 73

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CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Addison, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bell, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Downshire, M.Eden of Winton, L.Elles, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Bramall, L.

Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gage, V.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Greenway, L.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Haddington, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.James of Holland Park, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knutsford, V.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.

Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Davies of Coity, L.

Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Moran, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moynihan, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oxfuird, V.Pender, L.Phillimore, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Rawlings, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodney, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Tollemache, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Davies of Oldham, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Ely, Bp.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwyn, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.

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Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Inchyra, L.Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Judd, L.Kintore, E.

Die Mercurii 16) Decembris 1998

The House met at a quarter-before two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.

Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Merlyn-Rees, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nicol, B.Norton, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rix, L.

Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.

Sawyer, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Tomlinson, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.

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Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dudley, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forester, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.

Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.

McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.

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Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runcie, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Trustees of the Nell Gwynn House Maintenance Fund (Respondents) v. Commissioners ofCustoms and Excise (Appellants)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to;it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 21st December 1995 beset aside and that the Order of Mr Justice Popplewell of 18th October 1994 be restored saveas to costs; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs before this House,the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed betweenthe parties.

2. Jameson and another (Respondents) v. Central Electricity Generating Board (Appellants) andothers—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 13th February 1997 and the Order of SirHaydn Tudor Evans of 31st March 1995 be set aside; that the respondents do pay to theappellants their costs in the Courts below and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties; and that, in relation to the Third Party proceedings, all issues relating thereto,including the costs thereof, be remitted back to the Court of Appeal.

3. Baltic Insurance Group (Appellants) v. Jordan Grand Prix Limited and others and QuayFinancial Software Limited and others (Respondents) (by counter claim) and one otheraction—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 24th October 1997 be aYrmed and theappeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties.

4. Lace Co-Ordinates Limited (Petitioners) v. NEM Insurance Company Limited (Respondents)—The petition of Lace Co-ordinates Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.

Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Torrington, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigram, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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5. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Appellants) v. British Telecommunications Plc(Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Shipping—Agreement concerning Specific Stability Requirements for Ro-Ro Passenger

Ships undertaking Regular Scheduled International Voyages between or to or fromDesignated Ports in North West Europe and the Baltic Sea; (4180)Investment Protection—Agreement between the United Kingdom and the Hong KongSpecial Administrative Region for the Promotion and Protection of Investments,together with an explanatory memorandum; (4173)

2. Competitiveness—Our Competitive Future: Building the Knowledge Driven Economy:Government proposals. (4176)

7. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Hastings and Luton

Borough Councils) Order 1998— (3114)(ii) Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Poole Borough

Council) Order 1998— (3053)laid under the Local Government Act 1988;

2. Chemicals (Hazard Information and Packaging for Supply) (Amendment) Regulations1998, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974; (3106)

3. Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (No. 6) Order 1998, laid underthe Local Authorities (Goods and Services) Act 1970; (3095)

4. Excise Duty Point (External and Internal Community Transit Procedure) (Amendment)Regulations 1998, laid under the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979; (3110)

5. (i) Statute made by St. Hugh’s College, Oxford on 15th June 1998— (—)(ii) Statute made by Corpus Christi College, Oxford on 19th May 1998— (—)(iii) Two Statutes made by the University of Cambridge on 1st April 1998— (—)(iv) Revised Statutes made by Emmanuel College, Cambridge on 13th May 1998— (—)

laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923;6. (i) Education (Determining School Admission Arrangements for the Initial Year)

Regulations 1998— (3165)(ii) School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Admissions) (Modifications No. 2)

Regulations 1998— (3130)laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of temporary

borrowing by Queen Mary’s Sidcup National Health Service Trust from NationalWestminster Bank PLC, laid under the National Health Service and Community CareAct 1990;

2. (i) Reports and Accounts for 1997–98 of—(a) Forest Research—(b) Forest Enterprise—(c) The Forestry Commission—

(ii) Accounts for 1997–98 of the Forestry Fund, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General;laid under the Forestry Act 1967;

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Governmentetc. (Scotland) Act 1994;

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4. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish OYce Development Department Non-DomesticRating, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theLocal Government Finance Act 1992;

5. Accounts for 1997–98 of—

(i) The Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council (PPARC)—

(ii) The Medical Research Council—

together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theScience and Technology Act 1965;

6. Treasury Indemnity to the Bank of England concerning international settlements inrespect of a loan to Brazil, laid under the International Monetary Arrangements Act1983;

7. Statements by the Treasury in respect of—

(i) Black Sea and Baltic General Insurance Company Limited—

(ii) BAI (Run-OV) Limited—

laid under the Policyholders Protection Act 1975;

8. Qualifying Revenue and Multiplex Revenue: Statement by the Independent TelevisionCommission of Principles and Administrative Arrangements, laid under theBroadcasting Act 1990.

Select Committee Reports

10. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:

3rd Report, on the following Bills:

Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl];

Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl];

Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl];

Trustee Delegation Bill [hl];

Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]; (HL Paper 12)

4th Report, on the Draft Deregulation (Weights and Measures) Order 1999. (HL Paper 13)

Public Business

11. Consolidated Fund Bill—A bill to apply certain sums out of the Consolidated Fund to the serviceof the years ending on 31st March 1999 and 2000 was brought from the Commons endorsedwith the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a first time.

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington, that if the Consolidated Fund Bill is brought from the Commons, Standing Order44 (No two stages of a bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with tomorrow to allow the billto be taken through its remaining stages; the motion was agreed to.

13. Parliamentary OYce of Science and Technology (POST)—It was moved by the Chairman ofCommittees that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords beappointed to serve as members of the Board of the Parliamentary OYce of Science andTechnology (POST):

L. Flowers L. Winston;B. Nicol

the motion was agreed to.

14. Parliamentary Broadcasting Unit Limited (PARBUL)—It was moved by the Chairman ofCommittees that, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be namedas members of the Parliamentary Broadcasting Unit Limited (PARBUL):

L. Boston of Faversham L. Morris of Castle MorrisL. Burnham L. Thomson of Monifieth;

the motion was agreed to.

15. Sierra Leone (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Chesham that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the relations between the United Kingdom and Sierra Leone; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

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16. Fluoride in water (Short debate)—It was moved by the Earl Baldwin of Bewdley that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the case for a scientifically defensible review of theavailable evidence as part of a public enquiry into all aspects of fluoridating the water supply;after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

17. Food prices—The Lord Rowallan asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their view of thedisparity between farm-gate and supermarket prices for food products, and what steps theyintend to take to redress this imbalance; after debate, the question was answered by theLord Hoyle.

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past ten o’clock for judicial business,

eleven o’clock for public business.

Die Jovis 17) Decembris 1998

The House met at half-past ten o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Braine of Wheatley, L.

Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Briggs, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.

Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.

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Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Huntingdon, E.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.

Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Marshall of Knightsbridge, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Orr-Ewing, L.Oxfuird, V.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.

Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Porter of Luddenham, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Appeal Committee—The 11th Report from the Appeal Committee, on the petition of SenatorAugusto Pinochet Ugarte praying that the opinion of the Lord HoVmann in relation to theappeal be declared to be of no eVect and that the Judgment of the House of 25th Novemberlast be vacated, was made and ordered to be printed. (HL Paper 15)

2. Appeal Committee—The 11th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to. It was orderedthat the Judgment of the House of the 25th November last in the causes Regina v. Bartle andthe Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others ex parte Pinochet andRegina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and othersex parte Pinochet be vacated; that the appeals be referred to an Appellate Committee for re-hearing; that the matter of costs be adjourned until further Order; and that the Order of theHouse of 2nd November last pursuant to the 97th Report (Session 1997–98) from the AppealCommittee be vacated.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

3. Command Paper—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Employment—Presentation of a Convention and a Recommendation relating to private

employment agencies adopted at the 85th Session of the International LabourConference (1997) and the proposed action by the Government on the Convention andRecommendation; (4153)

2. Terrorism—Legislation against Terrorism: Government consultation document; (4178)3. Science and Technology—Government Response to the Report of the House of Lords

Select Committee on Science and Technology, Session 1997–98, on Resistance toAntibiotics and other Antimicrobial agents; (4172)

4. Children—Government Response to the 2nd Report of the House of Commons HealthCommittee, Session 1997–98, on Children Looked After by Local Authorities; (4175)

5. Finance—Public Services for the Future: Modernisation, Reform, Accountability, PublicService Agreements 1999–2002. (4181)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Smoke Control Areas (Authorised Fuels) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid

under the Clean Air Act 1993; (3096)2. Civil Procedure Rules 1998, laid under the Civil Procedure Act 1997; (3132)3. (i) Telecommunications (Data Protection and Privacy) (Direct Marketing) Regulations

1998— (3170)(ii) Potatoes Originating in Egypt (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (3167)(iii) Potatoes Originating in The Netherlands (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (3168)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;4. Mackerel (Specified Sea Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) Order 1998, laid under the Sea

Fish (Conservation) Act 1967; (3153)5. Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Fees) Order 1998, laid under the Public

Expenditure and Receipts Act 1968. (3171)

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Trading Accounts for 1997–98 of the Export Credits Guarantee Department,

laid under the Export and Investment Guarantees Act 1991;

Waddington, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.

Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Young, B.

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2. Consolidated Fund and the National Loans Fund—(i) Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor

General—(ii) Supplementary Statements—

laid under the National Loans Act 1968;3. Report for 1997–98 of the Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies, laid under the Friendly

Societies Act 1974;4. 1997 Mortality Statistics for England and Wales: Review of the Registrar General on

deaths by cause, sex and age, laid under the Registration Service Act 1953;5. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Covent Garden Market Authority, laid under

the Covent Garden Act 1961;6. Account for 1997–98 of Non-Domestic Rates and Redistribution to Local Authorities In

Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theLocal Government Finance Act 1988;

7. Account for 1997–98 of the Sports Council for Northern Ireland Lottery Distribution,together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theNational Lottery etc. Act 1993.

Select Committee Report

6. House of Lords’ OYces—The First Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix);it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 14)

Public Business

7. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the BaronessAmos, on behalf of the Baroness Hollis of Heigham, that it be an instruction to the Committeeof the Whole House to whom the Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.)Bill [hl] has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clause 1 Schedule 5Schedules 1 and 2 Clauses 6 to 17Clause 2 Schedule 6Schedule 3 Clauses 18 to 25Clauses 3 and 4 Schedules 7 to 9Schedule 4 Clauses 26 and 27;Clause 5

the motion was agreed to.

8. Consolidated Fund Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the bill be now reada second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committee was negatived; then, StandingOrder 44 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time and passed.

9. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Blackstone that the bill benow read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed toa Committee of the Whole House.

10. Parole Board (Transfer of Functions) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Hoyle, on behalf ofthe Lord Williams of Mostyn, that the draft Order laid before the House on 17th Novemberbe approved; the motion was agreed to.

11. Baglan Energy Park—The Lord Howe of Aberavon asked Her Majesty’s Government whatproposals they have to secure the future of the Baglan Energy Park project in Neath-PortTalbot; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

12. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Lord Elton) notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Act:Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Act c. 49

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before six o’clockto Monday 11th January, half-past two o’clock.

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APPENDIX

First Report from the Select Committeeon the House of Lords’ OYces

Thursday 17th December 1998

By the Select Committee appointed to consider House of Lords’ OYces

Ordered to Report—

The Committee have met and been attended by the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentleman Usherof the Black Rod.

1. Appointment of Sub-Committees

The Committee appointed the following Sub-Committees and Panel—

Finance and StaV Sub-Committee

L. Boston of Faversham (Chairman)L. Astor of HeverL. ColwynL. Gladwin of CleeL. Harris of GreenwichB. Jay of PaddingtonL. Renfrew of KaimsthornL. Rodgers of Quarry BankL. Sheppard of DidgemereL. StrathclydeL. WeatherillL. Williams of Elvel

with the Clerk of the Parliaments.

Administration and Works Sub-Committee

V. Allenby of MegiddoL. BerkeleyL. Boston of Faversham (Chairman)L. CarterL. ColwynB. DavidV. DevonportL. Harris of GreenwichL. HenleyB. Hilton of EggardonL. MethuenB. RawlingsL. Renfrew of KaimsthornL. Weatherill

with the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod.

Library and Computers Sub-Committee

L. AveburyL. ButterworthE. ErrollL. HoVmannL. McIntosh of HaringeyB. NicolE. NortheskB. Platt of WrittleB. Rendell of BaberghL. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn (Chairman)L. St. John of Bletso

with the Clerk of the Parliaments.

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Refreshment Sub-Committee

L. ActonL. BurnhamL. CarterL. CheshamL. Colwyn (Chairman)B. DavidL. Graham of EdmontonL. Harris of GreenwichL. LawrenceL. PalmerV. Thurso

with the Clerk of the Parliaments.

Advisory Panel on Works of Art

L. ChorleyL. CobboldL. CrathorneE. DroghedaV. FalklandB. Hilton of Eggardon (Chairman)L. HindlipL. Lloyd-WebberL. Morris of Castle MorrisB. Smith of Gilmorehill

with the Clerk of the Parliaments.

2. StaV of the House

The Committee was informed of the decision to appoint a temporary Trainer in the Computer OYceand of a Senior Sous Chef (Banqueting).

3. OYcial Shorthand Writer Services

The Committee was informed that a revised agreement had been approved with W B Gurney and Sonsrelating to the provision of shorthand writing services to the two Houses of Parliament.

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Die Lunae 11) Januarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.

Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chapple, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigmyle, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erroll, E.Evans of Watford, L.

Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.

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Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Marshall of Knightsbridge, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.

Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Wakefield.

1. Leave of absence—It was ordered that the leave of absence granted to the Lord Melchett beterminated.

Judicial Business

2. Walker (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Centaur Clothes Group Limited(Appellants) (England) (lodged 22nd December)—The appeal of Centaur Clothes GroupLimited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 22nd February next.

3. Berkeley (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)(England) (lodged 17th December)—The appeal of Dido Berkeley was presented and it wasordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto belodged on or before 22nd February next.

4. Reed (Respondent) v. Graham (Petitioner) (lodged 16th December)—The petition of Alan HarryGraham praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Taylor Clark International Limited (Petitioners) v. Lewis (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)(Respondent) (lodged 17th December)—The petition of Taylor Clark International Limitedpraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

6. Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners) (lodged 21st December)—Thepetition of James M Michaels and Forbes Inc., praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

7. Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners) (lodged 21st December)—Thepetition of James M Michaels and Forbes Inc., praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

8. Costello (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Northumbria (Petitioner) (lodged 4th January)—Thepetition of the Chief Constable of Northumbria praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

9. Roberts (Respondent) v. Winbow (Petitioner) (lodged 4th January)—The petition of Dr. AdrianJohn Winbow praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

10. Garner (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Pounds Shipowners andShipbreakers Limited (Petitioners) and one other action (lodged 4th January)—The petitionof Pounds Shipowners and Shipbreakers Limited and Henry Richard Pounds (in substitutionfor Henry Frederick Pounds, deceased) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referredto an Appeal Committee.

11. Midland Bank plc (Respondents) v. Wallace and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition ofAnna Maria Wallace praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited byStanding Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. Thepetitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

12. In re Barker (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of MelanieBarker praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing OrderII has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

13. Regina v. Kelly (Petitioner) (lodged 5th January)—The petition of Edward Kelly praying for anextension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal inaccordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968, was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

14. Coventry & Solihull Waste Disposal Company Limited (Appellants) v. Russell (ValuationOYcer) (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

15. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

16. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The petition of Amnesty International, the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims ofTorture, the Redress Trust, Mary Ann Beausire, Juana Francisa Beausire, Dr. Sheila AnneCassidy and the Association of Relatives of Disappeared Prisoners—U K Branch waspresented praying that they might be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals (theagents for the appellants and the respondents not consenting thereto), and was referred to anAppeal Committee.

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17. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

18. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The petition of Human Rights Watch was presented praying that they might be heard orotherwise intervene in the said appeals (the agents for the appellants and the respondents notconsenting thereto), and was referred to an Appeal Committee.

19. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

20. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The petition of the Republic of Chile was presented praying that they might be heard orotherwise intervene in the said appeals (the agents for the appellants and the respondents notconsenting thereto), and was referred to an Appeal Committee.

21. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

22. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The petition of Nicole Francois Drouilly and Marco Antonio Enriquez praying that theymight be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals was withdrawn.

23. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Mander Hadley (Respondents)—The petitionof the appellants (lodged 17th December) praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 8th February next (theagents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

24. Chief Adjudication OYcer (Appellant) v. Faulds (Respondent) (Scotland)—The petition of theappellant (lodged 21st December) praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 1st February next (theagents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

25. Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 11th February next (the agents forthe respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

26. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home OYce (Respondent) ex parte Rajaratnam (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th February next (theagents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

27. Dawson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Wearmouth (A.P.) (Respondent)—The respondent’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

Papers

28. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Financial Services and Markets Bill: a consultation document; (21st

December) (—)2. Museums and Galleries—

(i) Note of increase in indemnity for objects on loan to the Tate Gallery; (22ndDecember) (—)

(ii) Financial Statements for 1997–98 of the Museum of London, together with theGovernors’ and Auditors’ reports; (6th January) (—)

3. Tower Hill Vaults—Departmental Minute of 11th January 1999 concerning the Proposalfor the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport to act as Guarantor for the Leaseof the Tower Hill Vaults Site. (11th January) (—)

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29. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following statutory instruments, having beenlaid before the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:

S.I. No. Date ofTitle, etc. 1999 laying

Negative instrumentsPlant Health (Forestry) (Great Britain) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 3109 18th December

1998, laid under the Plant Health Act 1967;School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Proposals under section 3172 18th December

211 of the Education Act 1996) (Transitional Provisions)Regulations 1998, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998;

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Divorces (Fees) (Scotland) 3191 21st DecemberAmendment Regulations 1998, laid under the Registration ofBirths, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act 1965;

(i) Television Broadcasting Regulations 1998— 3196 21st December(ii) Arable Area Payments (Amendment) Regulations 1998— 3169 21st December

Laid under the European Communities Act 1972;School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Modification) (No.2) 3217 22nd December

Regulations 1998, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998;

Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) 3207 22nd December(Borough of Luton) Order 1998, laid under the Road TraYc Act1991;

Education (School Performance Information) (England) 3260 23rd December(Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the School Standardsand Framework Act 1998;

Local Authorities Etc. (Allowances) (Scotland) Amendment 3217 23rd DecemberRegulations 1998, laid under the Local Government (Scotland)Act 1973;

Scotland Act 1998 (Transitional and Transitory Provisions) 3216 23rd December(Subordinate Legislation under the Act) Order 1998, laid under theScotland Act 1998;

British Nationality (Cameroon and Mozambique) Order 1998, laid 3161 4th Januaryunder the British Nationality Act 1981;

Merchant Shipping (Falkland Islands Colours) Order 1998, laid 3147 4th Januaryunder the Merchant Shipping Act 1995;

Health Service Commissioner for England (London Post-Graduate 3149 4th JanuaryTeaching Hospitals Designation Orders) Revocation Order 1998,laid under the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993;

Housing Benefit (General) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998, 3257 4th Januarylaid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;

Building Societies (Business Names) Regulations 1998, laid under the 3186 5th JanuaryBuilding Societies Act 1986;

Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (No. 3232 6th January4) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1988;

(i) Asbestos (Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— 3233 6th January(ii) Control of Asbestos at Work (Amendment) Regulations 1998— 3235 6th January

Laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;Financial Assistance for Environmental Purposes (No. 4) Order 3234 6th January

1998, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990;Local Government Finance (New Parishes) (Amendment) 3270 6th January

Regulations 1998, laid under the Local Government Finance Act1992;

School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (School Playing Fields) 1 7th January(Modification) (England) Regulations 1999, laid under the SchoolStandards and Framework Act 1998;

Education (School Premises) Regulations 1999, laid under the 2 7th JanuaryEducation Act 1996;

Road TraYc (Special Parking Area) (London Borough of 3238 8th JanuaryRedbridge) (Amendment) Order 1998, laid under the Road TraYcAct 1991;

(i) NCIS Service Authority (Levying) (Amendment) Order 1998— 3258 8th January

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(ii) National Crime Squad Service Authority (Levying) 3259 8th January(Amendment) Order 1998—

Laid under the Police Act 1997;Social Security (Categorisation of Earners) Amendment Regulations 3 8th January

1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and BenefitsAct 1992;

Prevention of Accidents to Children in Agriculture Regulations 1998, 3262 8th Januarylaid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;

Instruments not subject to parliamentary proceedingsNumber of Members of South Wales Police Authority Order 1998, 3215 23rd December

laid under the Police Act 1996;Iraq and Kuwait (United Nations Sanctions) (Amendment) Order 3163 4th January

1998, laid under the United Nations Act 1946.

30. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (North-East Atlantic Fisheries

Commission) Order 1999;2. Draft European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the North-East Atlantic

Fisheries Commission) Order 1999.

31. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Medicines (Standard Provisions for Licences and Certificates) Amendment Regulations

1999, laid under the Medicines Act 1968; (4)2. Rent Acts (Maximum Fair Rent) Order 1999, laid under the Landlord and Tenant Act

1985. (6)

32. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. (i) Amendment 20 to the Territorial Army Regulations 1978—

(ii) Amendment to the regulations for the Royal Air Force Reserve and the RoyalAuxiliary Air Force—laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996;

2. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Milk Development Council, laid under theIndustrial Organisation and Development Act 1947;

3. Receipts and Payments for 1997–98 of the Commissioners of Customs and Excise inAccount with the Government of the Isle of Man, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Isle of Man Act 1979;

4. Account for 1997–98 of the National Insurance Fund, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Social Security Administration Act1992;

5. Account for 1997–98 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Criminal InjuriesCompensation Act 1995;

6. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Biological Standards Board, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Biological Standards Act1975;

7. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Natural Environment Research Council, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Science and TechnologyAct 1965.

Private Business

33. Private Bills—The Examiners’ certificates that the Standing Orders applicable to the petitions forthe following bills have been complied with were delivered and ordered to lie on the Table:Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts;City of London (Ward Elections);City of Newcastle upon Tyne;HFC Bank;Imperial College;Kent County Council;

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Medway Council;Transport Salaried StaVs’ Association (Amendment of Rules) etc. ;United Reformed Church;University College London.

Public Business

34. Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England—It was moved by the Chairman ofCommittees, on behalf of the Committee of Selection, that the Lord Poole be appointed toserve as a member of the Select Committee in the place of the Lord Tebbit; the motion wasagreed to.

35. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton, on behalf of theLord Chancellor, that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreedto and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

36. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that the billbe now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committedto a Committee of the Whole House.

37. Broadcasting (Restrictions on the Holding of Licences) (Amendment) Order 1998—It was movedby the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 11thNovember 1998 be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

38. MMR vaccine—The Lord Clement-Jones asked Her Majesty’s Government whether theDepartment of Health plan to issue new guidance on MMR (measles, mumps and rubella)vaccine in the light of new medical evidence and litigation recently instituted againstpharmaceutical companies manufacturing the vaccine; after debate, the question wasanswered by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

The House was adjourned at five minutes past seven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.

Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Cairns, E.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.

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Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.

Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.GoV of Chieveley, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.

Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.

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Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Mustill, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Phillips of Worth Matravers, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Wakefield.

1. Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers—The Right Honourable Sir Nicholas Addison Phillips, Knight,a Lord Justice of Appeal, having been appointed a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary and createdBaron Phillips of Worth Matravers, of Belsize Park in the London Borough of Camden, forlife by Letters Patent dated 12th January 1999 (see appendix 2), was introduced between theLord Alexander of Weedon and the Lord Mustill, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod andGarter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Arthur J S Hall & Co (Petitioners) v. Simons (Respondent)—The petition of Arthur J S Hall &Co praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.

Stokes, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Cockbone (Respondent) v. Atkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) (Petitioners)—The petition ofAtkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred toan Appeal Committee.

4. Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Petitioners)—Thepetition of Anthony Ronald Louis Ansell, Robin Alan Austin, Harvey Philip Ingram, DavidPatrick Irving, Simon Andrew Gordon Ross, Anthony Maurice Seddon and Paul Ian Woolf(trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred toan Appeal Committee.

5. Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Petitioners) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others(Respondents)—The petition of Consorziodel Prosciutto di Parma praying for leave to appealnotwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

6. McDonald’s Corporation and others (Respondents) v. Steel and another (Petitioners)—Thepetition of Helen Marie Steel and David Morris praying for leave to appeal was presentedwithout payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuantto Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

7. Dawson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Wearmouth (A.P.) (Respondent)—The appeal was set down forhearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

8. In re B (a minor) (A.P.) (Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to anAppellate Committee.

9. Dingley (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police (Respondent) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th February next (the agents forthe respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

10. Appeal Committee—The 12th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:

McDonald’s Corporation and others (Respondents) v. Steel and another (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

11. Appeal Committee—The 13th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:

Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants)ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—

That the petitions of Amnesty International and others, Human Rights Watch and theRepublic of Chile praying for leave to intervene in the appeals be referred for hearing.

Papers

12. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Special Hospitals—Report of the Committee of Inquiry into the Personality DisorderUnit, Ashworth Special Hospital—

Executive Summary; (4194–I)

Volume 1. (4194–II)

13. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:

Education (Infant Class Sizes) (Grant) Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998. (14)

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Oil and Pipelines Agency, laid under the Oil andPipelines Act 1985.

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Select Committee Report

15. Statutory Instruments—The 4th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Open-Ended Investment Companies (Investment Companies with Variable Capital)(Fees) Regulations 1998 (S.I. 1998/3087);Companies (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I. 1998/3088);Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice No. 5) Order 1998;Draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 16)

Public Business

16. Procedure of the House—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees, on behalf of theCommittee of Selection, that the Baroness Lockwood be appointed to serve as a member ofthe Select Committee in the place of the Baroness Rendell of Babergh; the motion wasagreed to.

17. House of Lords’ OYces—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the First Report fromthe Select Committee (HL Paper 14) be agreed to; the motion was agreed to.

18. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn thatit be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Youth Justice andCriminal Evidence Bill [hl] has been committed that they consider the bill in the followingorder:

Clauses 1 to 13 Clauses 48 to 62Schedule 1 Schedules 3 to 5Clauses 14 to 47 Clause 63;Schedule 2

the motion was agreed to.

19. Scrutiny of the Third Pillar (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Kingsland that this Housetake note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on EnhancingParliamentary Scrutiny of the Third Pillar (6th Report, Session 1997–98, HL Paper 25); afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

20. Government of Wales Act 1998 (Housing) (Amendments) Order 1998—It was moved by the LordWilliams of Mostyn that the draft Order laid before the House on 26th November beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

21. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from a GrandCommittee without amendment.

22. Violence on aircraft—The Lord Brabazon of Tara asked Her Majesty’s Government what furthermeasures they propose to deal with crimes of violence on board aircraft; and how they intendto ensure that those found guilty of such crimes receive appropriate punishments; after debate,the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.

23. Alternatives to prison—The Earl of Longford asked Her Majesty’s Government, in view of theirwelcome for the 3rd report (Session 1997–98) of the House of Commons Home AVairsCommittee recommending greater use of alternatives to prison, what steps they intend to taketo give eVect to the report; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Williams ofMostyn.

The House was adjourned at five minutes before nine o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

APPENDIX 1

PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM) ON THECOMMONWEALTH DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION [HL]

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Ampthill) was in the Chair.

Amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill bereported without amendment.

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes past four o’clock.

APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Whereas Our right trusty andwell beloved Counsellor Anthony John Leslie Baron Lloyd of Berwick has resigned his OYce of a Lordof Appeal in Ordinary and the same is now vacant Now Know Ye that We of our special grace have in

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pursuance of the Appellate Jurisdiction Act 1876 as amended by subsequent enactments nominated andappointed and by these Presents Do nominate and appoint Our right trusty and well beloved CounsellorSir Nicholas Addison Phillips Knight one of Our Lords Justices of Appeal to be a Lord of Appeal inOrdinary by the style of Baron Phillips of Worth Matravers of Belsize Park in Our London Borough ofCamden To hold the said OYce so long as he shall well behave himself therein subject to the provisionsin the said Act mentioned with all wages profits privileges rank and precedence whatsoever to the saidOYce belonging or in anywise appertaining and to hold the said style of Baron Phillips of WorthMatravers unto him the said Sir Nicholas Addison Phillips during his lifeIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterthe twelfth day of January in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

BY THE QUEEN HERSELF

Die Mercurii 13) Januarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.

Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.

Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.

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Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.

Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.

Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Ranfurly, E.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Wakefield.

1. Leave of absence—It was ordered that the leave of absence granted to the Viscount Boyd ofMerton be terminated.

Judicial Business

2. Curtis (Respondent) v. Chairman of the London Rent Assessment Committee (Petitioner) andothers—Upon application by the petitioner (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto)it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that the petitioner do pay to the respondentthe costs of the petition the amount thereof to certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if notagreed between the parties.

3. Regina v. Collins and Pathfinder Mental Health Services NHS Trust and others (Petitioners) exparte S (Respondent)—Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn; that the costs of therespondent be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the first and secondpetitioners do pay to the respondent the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to certifiedby the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

4. St George’s Healthcare NHS Trust (Petitioners) v. S (Respondent)—Upon application by thepetitioners (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) it was ordered that the petitionbe withdrawn; that the costs of the respondent be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act1988; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondent the costs of the petition, the amountthereof to certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

5. Harries (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Barclays Bank plc (Respondents)—The appeal was set down forhearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

6. Appeal Committee—The 14th Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Order was made:Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants)ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—That the petition of Amnesty International and others that they might be heard or otherwiseintervene in the said appeal be allowed and that they may have leave to lodge written argumentand be heard; that the petition of Human Rights Watch be allowed subject to written argumentonly; and that the petition of the Republic of Chile be allowed on the same terms as AmnestyInternational subject to their written arguments being lodged with the other parties by 10.00pm on Thursday 14th January.

Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stokes, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tollemache, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.

Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Communities—Europe Agreement establishing an Association between the

European Communities and their Member States and Estonia including Protocols withExchange of Letters, Declarations and Final Act; (—)

2. Treaty Series—3rd Supplementary List of ratifications, accessions and withdrawals for1998; (4185)

3. Social Security—Report by the Government Actuary on the drafts of the Social SecurityBenefits Up-rating Order 1999 and the Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating andNational Insurance Fund Payments) Order 1999. (4199)

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 1999;2. Draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Fund

Payments) Order 1999;3. Draft Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 1999.

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

(i) Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 (Application to EnvironmentallyHazardous Substances) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (40)

(ii) Arable Area Payments (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (8)laid under the European Communities Act 1972.

Select Committee Report

10. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:5th Report, on the following bills:

Access to Justice Bill [hl];Freedom of Information Bill [hl];Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [hl]. (HL Paper 17)

Public Business

11. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that it be an instruction to theCommittee of the Whole House to whom the Access to Justice Bill [HL] has been committedthat they consider the bill in the following order:

Clause 1 Clauses 38 to 51Schedule 1 Schedule 7Clauses 2 to 7 Clause 52Schedule 2 Schedule 8Clauses 8 to 14 Clauses 53 to 61Schedule 3 Schedule 9Clauses 15 to 22 Clauses 62 to 75Schedule 4 Schedule 10Clauses 23 to 35 Clause 76Schedule 5 Schedule 11Clauses 36 and 37 Clauses 77 to 80;Schedule 6

the motion was agreed to.

12. HIV/AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa (Short debate)—It was moved by the Earl of Sandwich that therebe laid before the House papers relating to the case for an adequate contribution to the controland prevention of HIV/AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa; after debate, the motion was (by leaveof the House) withdrawn.

13. Leisure activities (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Walpole that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to increased time for leisure activities and the pressures and problemsthis causes; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

14. Hospital disciplinary procedures—The Baroness Knight of Collingtree asked Her Majesty’sGovernment whether they will consider the case for changes in the procedure to deal withalleged disciplinary misdemeanours by hospital doctors or consultants, particularly to speedup the process; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before nine o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, E.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.

Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cornwallis, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.

Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.

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Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.

Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Wakefield.

Judicial Business

1. Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited)(Respondents) v. Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Petitioners) (lodged 11thJanuary)—The petition of Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware as Trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust (Respondents) v. BishopsgateInvestment Trust plc and others (Petitioners) (lodged 21st December)—The petition of CreditSuisse First Boston (formerly Credit Suisse) (Incorporated under the laws of Switzerland)praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Johnson (Petitioner) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of William JohnHenry Johnson praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. In re Okpoko (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of DavidHart Okpoko praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged andfor leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 9th Report:Regina v. Powys County Council and another (Respondents) ex parte Hambidge (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That the respondents’ costs be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordancewith section 18 of the Legal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended until 11th February toenable the Legal Aid Board to object if they wish.

Papers

6. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Cambuslang College (Change of Name) (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Further andHigher Education (Scotland) Act 1992. (16)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Account for 1997–98 of the Marshall Aid Commemoration Commission, laid under the

Marshall Aid Commemoration Act 1953;2. Report for 1996–97 on Agricultural Marketing Schemes, laid under the Agricultural

Marketing Act 1958;3. Report for 1997–98 of the Pensions Compensation Board, laid under the Pensions Act

1995.

Private Business

8. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts [hl]—

9. City of Newcastle upon Tyne [hl]—

10. Kent County Council [hl]—

11. Medway Council [hl]—

Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.

Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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12. United Reformed Church [hl]—The bills were presented and read a first time.

Public Business

13. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Act passed inaccordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949:European Parliamentary Elections Act c.1

14. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—The House resolved itselfinto a Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and(by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported withamendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 12)

15. Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Hunt of KingsHeath that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 3rd December be approved; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

16. Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 1999—It was moved by theLord Hunt of Kings Heath that the draft Order laid before the House on 1st December beapproved; the motion was agreed to.

17. Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Hunt ofKings Heath that the draft Order laid before the House on 1st December be approved; themotion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at sixteen minutes past eight o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 18) Januarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.

Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.

Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craigavon, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cumberlege, B.

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Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henderson of Brompton, L.

Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knights, L.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.

McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parkinson, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Prior, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

Judicial Business

1. Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Petitioners) and others (lodged 11thJanuary)—The petition of Scholfield Roberts & Hill praying for leave to appeal was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Housing Loan Corporation plc (in Administrative Receivership) (Petitioners) v. William HBrown Limited and others (Respondents)—The petition of the Housing Loan Corporation(in Administrative Receivership) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

3. Birmingham City Council (Petitioners) v. Oakley (Respondent) (lodged 15th January)—Thepetition of Birmingham City Council praying for leave to appeal in accordance with theAdministration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. In re J (a minor) (A.P.) (Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying that the appeal bewithdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties and on condition that the appellant do payto the respondents any costs incurred in respect of the petition of appeal to this House, suchcosts to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties (theagents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Regina v. Martin (Petitioner)—Upon application by the petitioner (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn.

6. Vehicle Inspectorate (Respondents) v. Bruce Cook Road Planning Limited and another(Appellants) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—Theappeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

7. Appeal Committee—The 15th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Senate Electrical Wholesalers Limited (Petitioners) v. STC Submarine Systems Limited(Respondents) and another—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 1stFebruary next.

Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.

Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Bennett (Respondent) v. News Group Newspapers Limited (Petitioners)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Mond (In his capacity as Trustee of the property of David Philip Hood (a bankrupt) and inhis personal capacity) (Petitioner) v. Hyde (Assistant OYcial Receiver) and others(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Nairne (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Camden (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal AidAct 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Kabba (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Regina v. Cambridge City Council (Respondents) ex parte Lane (A.P.) (Petitioner)—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

8. Appeal Committee—The 16th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:

Owners of the Ship or Vessel ‘Herceg Novi’ (Petitioners) v. Owners and/or demise charterersof the Ship or Vessel ‘Ming Galaxy’ (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodgeobjections by 1st February next.

Morecroft Urquhart (Respondents) v. Dundon (Petitioner)—That the petition be dismissedas inadmissible.

Regina v. Immigration Appellate Authority (Respondents) ex parte Secretary of State for theHome Department (Respondent) and Cakabay (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 1st February next.

Evans (Petitioner) v. Motor Insurers’ Bureau (Respondents)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

C. Itoh & Co Limited and others (Respondents) and others v. Steamship MutualUnderwriting Association (Bermuda) Limited (Petitioners) and one other petition—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Inco Europe Limited and others (Petitioners) v. First Choice Distribution (a firm) and others(Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 1st February next.

Papers

9. Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instrument, having been laidbefore the House on 15th January, was ordered to lie on the Table:

European Communities (Recognition of Professional Qualifications) (Second GeneralSystem) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972.

(67)

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Draft Code of Practice on LEA–School Relations, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998; (—)

2. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Enfield London BoroughCouncil) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1988. (3302)

11. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pay and Allowances) Order 1998, laid under the Navaland Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865.

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Public Business

12. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee uponthe bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after clause 13 stood part.

13. Citizenship and democracy—The Lord Phillips of Sudbury asked Her Majesty’s Government whatplans they have to implement the recommendations of the final report of the Crick AdvisoryGroup on Education for Citizenship and the Teaching of Democracy in Schools; after debate,the question was answered by the Baroness Blackstone.

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.

Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Byron, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.

Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Courtown, E.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Cranworth, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.

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Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.

Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.

Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

Judicial Business

1. Government of the United States of America (Respondents) v. Montgomery and another(Petitioners) (lodged 7th August)—The petition of Kathleen Conway Montgomery and LeeEdwin Montgomery praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

2. Gibbs Mew plc (Respondents) v. Gemmel (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action (lodged 3rdDecember)—The petition of Graham Gemmel praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Regina v. Bett (Petitioner) (lodged 26th October)—The petition of Robert Adrian Bett prayingfor leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Morgan and others (Respondents) v. Morris (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—Thepetitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 3rd Report:B (by his mother and next friend) (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodgedforthwith.

Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.

Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Criminal Injuries—Report for 1997–98 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board.

(4197)

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Road

TraYc Act 1988; (72)2. Grants for Pre-school Education (Prescribed Children) (Scotland) Amendment Order

1999, laid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1996. (79)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Radioactivity in Sheep) Partial Revocation

Order 1999, laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985; (80)2. Report for 1997–98 of the Sports Council for Northern Ireland on Lottery Distribution

Activities, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;3. Report for 1997–98 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority, laid under the

Criminal Injuries Compensation Act 1995;4. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Probation Board(Northern Ireland) Order 1982.

Select Committee Report

9. Statutory Instruments—The 5th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the North-East AtlanticFisheries Commission) Order 1999;Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (North-East Atlantic FisheriesCommission) Order 1999;Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 1999;Draft Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 1999;Draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance FundPayments) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 18)

Public Business

10. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; theHouse was resumed after amendment 89.

The House was adjourned at five minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.

Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.

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Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.

Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunrossil, V.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.GiVord, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.

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Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.

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Strathalmond, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

1. Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Lord Milne for theremainder of this Parliament.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Northern Ireland Electricity plc (Respondents) ex parte Director General of ElectricitySupply of Northern Ireland (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland) (lodged 30th November)—Thepetition of the Director General of Electricity Supply of Northern Ireland praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Commercial Union Assurance Company plc (Petitioners) v. Shaw (Her Majesty’s Inspector ofTaxes) (Respondent)—The petition of Commercial Union Assurance Company plc prayingfor leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Regina v. London Borough of Bromley and others (Respondents) ex parte Crystal PalaceCampaign and others (Petitioners)—The petition of Crystal Palace Campaign and Philip AlanKolvin and 23 others praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

5. Regina v. Norwich City Justices (Respondents) ex parte McKernan (Petitioner)—The petition ofJohn McKernan praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

6. Burridge (Respondent) v. London Borough of Harrow (Appellants) and others—The appeal wasset down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Communities—Internal Agreement between the Representatives of the

Governments of the Member States, Meeting within the Council, on the Financing andAdministration of Community Aid under the 2nd Financial Protocol to the 4th ACP–ECConvention; (4239)

2. House of Lords—Modernising Parliament: Reforming the House of Lords: Governmentproposals. (4183)

8. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Apportionment of Money in the National Lottery Distribution Fund Order 1999.

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Pilot Transfer Arrangements) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (17)2. Housing Renewal Grants (Common Parts) Order 1999, laid under the Housing Grants,

Construction and Regeneration Act 1996. (68)

Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Tweedsmuir, L.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.

Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Account for 1997–98 of the Social Fund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and

Auditor General, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;2. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of—

(i) David MacBrayne Limited—(ii) Caledonian MacBrayne Limited—

laid under the Transport (Scotland) Act 1989.

Public Business

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 38(Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with on Monday 25th January to allow themotion in the name of the Earl of Onslow to be taken immediately after proceedings on theSocial Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions etc.) Bill [HL]; the motion was agreed to.

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Taverne set down for today shall be limited to 5 hours; themotion was agreed to.

13. European single currency (5-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Taverne that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the significance for the British economy of theintroduction of the euro; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

14. Arms trade—The Lord Hylton asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their policy forpreventing worldwide proliferation of small arms and controlling the actions of militarycompanies; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale.

The House was adjourned at one minute before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

Die Jovis 21) Januarii 1999

The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.

Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.

Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.

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Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.

Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.

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Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

Judicial Business

1. Companhia Europeia de Transportes Aeros SA (a foreign corporation) (Petitioner) v. BritishAerospace Public Limited Company and others (Respondents) (lodged 20th January)—Thepetition of Antonio Anibal Andrade Baptista Lopes (Proposed substitute plaintiV) prayingfor leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Appeal Committee—The 17th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:

Axis West Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Chartwell Land Investments Limited(Respondents) (Scotland)—That the petition of the respondents praying that the appellantsgive security for costs in the sum of £50,000.00 notwithstanding the provisions of StandingOrder V, such sum to be paid into the House of Lords Security Fund Account within 21 daysor within such other period as the Appeal Committee shall think fit, was refused.

Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Regina v. Marylebone Magistrates’ Court and another (Respondents) ex parte AmdrellLimited (trading as ‘Get StuVed’) and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused;that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d)and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.Hurst (Petitioner) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—That the petition of Robert AlfredHurst praying for leave to present an appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by StandingOrder I has expired be allowed and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 4th February next.W 1-6 (A.P.) (Cross-Petitioners) v. Essex County Council and another (Cross-Respondents)—That the petition of W 1-6 praying for leave to cross-appeal notwithstandingthat the time limited by Standing Order VII has expired be referred for hearing.Regina v. Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate and the Lord Advocate (Petitioner) ex parteGranada Television Limited (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodgeobjections by 4th February next.In re L (1998)—That leave to appeal be refused.In re Peracha (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave toappeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex partePeracha (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of thepetitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Papers

3. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Railways (Rateable Values) (Scotland) Order 1999.

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 1999, laid under the

Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978; (—)2. Vehicle Excise Duty (Immobilisation, Removal and Disposal of Vehicles) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994; (35)3. Allocation of Housing and Homelessness (Review Procedures) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Housing Act 1996; (71)4. (i) Sea Fish (Specified Sea Area) (Regulation of Nets and Prohibition of Fishing)

(Variation) Order 1999— (74)(ii) Bass (Specified Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) (Variation) Order 1999— (75)

laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967.

5. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report on care in Wales for people with a mental illness and people with a mental handicap,laid under the Disabled Persons (Services, Consultation and Representation) Act 1986.

Public Business

6. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that it be aninstruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Pollution Prevention andControl Bill [HL] has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clause 1 Schedules 2 and 3Schedule 1 Clause 4;Clauses 2 and 3

the motion was agreed to.

7. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed.

8. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill—A bill to make provision about the recovery from insurers andcertain other persons of charges in connection with the treatment of road traYc casualties innational health service, and certain other, hospitals; and for connected purposes was broughtfrom the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 13)

9. Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heighamthat the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

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10. Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Fund Payments) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the Houseon 13th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.

11. Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis ofHeigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved; the motionwas agreed to.

12. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 144.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.

Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.

Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crawley, B.Croham, L.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Drogheda, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.

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Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson-Watt, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.

Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-Webber, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Manchester, Bp.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.

Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Steed (Respondent) v. Home OYce (Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing andreferred to an Appellate Committee.

2. Jolley (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents)—The petition of theappellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 23rd February next (the agents for the respondentsconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Patel (Appellant)—The petition of appeal having been dismissed in accordance with Standing Order VI, thepetition of the appellant was presented praying that the appeal be restored (the agents for therespondent consenting thereto) and was ordered as prayed.

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Patel (Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 25th February next (the agents forthe respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Field Boundaries—Government Response to the 13th Report of the House of CommonsEnvironment, Transport and Regional AVairs Committee, Session 1997–98, on the Protectionof Field Boundaries. (4200)

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Land Registration Rules 1999, laid under the Land Registration Act 1925; (128)2. School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (School Attendance Targets) (Modification)

Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998. (129)

Public Business

7. Committee of Selection—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Lord Henley beappointed to serve as a member of the Committee in the place of the Viscount Cranborne; themotion was agreed to.

8. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—The report was received;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreedto; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 14)

Strange, B.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.

Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vesty, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

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9. Registration of Political Parties (Prohibited Words and Expressions) Order 1998—It was movedby the Earl of Onslow that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that theOrder, laid before the House on 23rd November, be annulled (S.I. 1998/2873); after debate,the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

10. Open-Ended Investment Companies (Investment Companies with Variable Capital) (Fees)Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the Regulations laidbefore the House on 10th December 1998 be approved (S.I. 1998/3087); after debate, themotion was agreed to.

11. Companies (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the Regulations laid before the House on 10th December 1998 be approved (S.I.1998/3088); the motion was agreed to.

12. Advice and Assistance (Assistance by Way of Representation) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 2)Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Macdonald of Tradeston that the draftRegulations laid before the House on 1st December 1998 be approved; the motion wasagreed to.

13. Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Prescribed Proceedings) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Macdonald of Tradeston that the draft Regulations laid before theHouse on 1st December 1998 be approved; the motion was agreed to.

14. Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton,on behalf of the Lord Hardie, that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 16thDecember 1998 be approved; the motion was agreed to.

15. Horse racing—The Viscount Falkland asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they are satisfiedwith the way in which the current enquiry into possible criminal activities in horse racing isproceeding and, in particular, whether they consider that damage could be done to thereputation of jockeys who are arrested and subsequently released without charge in the courseof the enquiry; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Williams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before seven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.

Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.

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Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.

EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.

Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.

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Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Steyn, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Wildtree Hotels Limited and others (Appellants) v. London Borough of Harrow(Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

2. Glasgow City Council and others (Respondents) v. Marshall and others (Appellants)(Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 10th March next (theagents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

3. Appeal Committee—The 18th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Islam (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—Regina v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal and another (Respondents) ex parte Shah (A.P.)(Appellant)—(Conjoined Appeals)—That the petition of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees praying that hemight be heard or otherwise intervene in the said appeals be allowed and that his case be lodgedby noon on Thursday 28th January next.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Criminal Injuries—Report for 1997–98 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel.

(4184)

5. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Departments (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;2. Draft Social Security Benefits Up–rating (No. 2) Order 1999.

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Gaming (Variation of Monetary Limits) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the

Northern Ireland Act 1974; (—)2. National Lottery (Imposition of Penalties and Revocation of Licences) Procedure

Regulations 1999, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993; (137)3. (i) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of

Manchester) Order 1999— (131)(ii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Kent)

(Borough of Maidstone) (Amendment) Order 1999— (130)(iii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of

Hampshire) (City of Winchester) (Amendment) Order 1999— (132)laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991;

4. Education Development Plans (England) Regulations 1999, laid under the SchoolStandards and Framework Act 1998. (138)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Meat and Livestock Commission, laid under the

Agriculture Act 1967;2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Museums of Scotland, together with the Report of

the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Heritage (Scotland) Act1985;

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Library of Scotland, together with the Report ofthe Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Library of Scotland Act1925;

4. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Galleries of Scotland, together with the Report ofthe Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Galleries of Scotland Act1906.

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Select Committee Reports

8. Statutory Instruments—The 6th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Apportionment of Money in the National Lottery Distribution Fund Order 1999;Draft Railways (Rateable Values) (Scotland) Order 1999;Draft Social Security Benefits Uprating (No. 2) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 19)

9. Science and Technology—The First Report from the Select Committee, Meeting with the Ministerfor Science, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed, together with the Minutesof Evidence. (HL Paper 20)

Public Business

10. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed.

11. Accountancy practice and receivership—The Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde asked HerMajesty’s Government whether they have any plans to end the practice whereby aninvestigating accountant appointed to a company subsequently becomes the Receiver of thecompany; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

12. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 236.

The House was adjourned at nineteen minutes past midnightin the morning of Wednesday 27th January till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.

Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brain, L.Bramall, L.

Braybrooke, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.

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Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chelmsford, V.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.

Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.

Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.

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Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.

Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.

Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Tombs, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Wise, L.Young, B.

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Papers

1. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Education—Targeting Excellence—Modernising Scotland’s Schools: Government

consultation document; (4247)2. Food—The Food Standards Agency: Consultation on Draft Legislation; (4249)3. Museums and Galleries—Note of increase in indemnity for objects on loan to the

National Portrait Gallery; (—)4. Armed Forces—Administrative Agreement to Supplement the Agreement between the

Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty regarding the Status of their Forces with respect toForeign Forces stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany; (4251)

5. Air Services—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Bahrain concerning AirServices; (4250)

6. Wrecks—Agreement between Estonia, Finland and Sweden regarding the M/S Estoniawith Additional Protocol, together with an explanatory memorandum. (4252)

2. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Development Commission (Transfer of Functions and Miscellaneous Provisions) Order1999.

3. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Channel Tunnel Rail Link (Assessment of Environmental EVects) Regulations 1999, laidunder the European Communities Act 1972. (107)

Select Committee Report

4. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:6th Report, on the following bills:Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill;Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [HL] —Government Response. (HL Paper 21)

Public Business

5. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debates on themotions in the names of the Lord Berkeley and the Baroness Kennedy of The Shaws set downfor today shall each be limited to 3 hours; the motion was agreed to.

6. Deputy Chairmen of Committees—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the LordLofthouse of Pontefract and the Baroness Gardner of Parkes be added to the Panel of Lordsappointed to act as Deputy Chairmen of Committees for this session; the motion wasagreed to.

7. Transport (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Berkeley that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the White Paper A New Deal for Transport: Better for Everyone (Cm 3950)and other related transport matters; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House)withdrawn.

8. British Council (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Kennedy of The Shaws that therebe laid before the House papers relating to the role and future of the British Council; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

9. Mary Bell case: press complaints—The Lord McNally asked Her Majesty’s Government whatchanges in procedure and liaison between the Home OYce and the Press ComplaintsCommission have taken place following their respective inquiries into the circumstancessurrounding press serialisation of Cries Unheard concerning the case of Mary Bell; afterdebate, the question was answered by the Lord Williams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, E.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.

Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.

Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donegall, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.

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Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.

Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Limerick, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Parkinson, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Phelps (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon (Respondents)—The petition of Pamela Helen Phelps praying for leave to appeal was presented and referredto an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

2. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Diplomatic Privileges (British Nationals) Order 1999.

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Restriction of Liberty Order (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the

Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995; (144)2. Building Regulations (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Building Act 1984;

(77)3. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (123)4. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (West Yorkshire) Amalgamation (Amendment) Order

1999, laid under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997. (152)

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Reports and Accounts for 1997–98 of—

(i) the Army Base Storage and Distribution Agency—(ii) the Defence Transport and Movements Executive—(iii) the Military Survey Defence Agency—(iv) the Naval Manning Agency—

laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;2. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish Hospital Endowments Research Trust,

laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;

Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.

Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolf, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Statistical Bulletin for 1997 of Criminal Proceedings in Scottish Courts, laid under thePolice (Scotland) Act 1967.

Public Business

5. Health Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the law about the national health service; make provision inrelation to arrangements and payments between health service bodies and local authoritieswith respect to health and health-related functions; confer power to regulate any professionsconcerned (wholly or partly) with the physical or mental health of individuals; and forconnected purposes was presented by the Baroness Hayman, read a first time and ordered tobe printed. (HL Bill 15)

6. Health Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HLBill 15–EN)

7. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was disagreed to (see division list);the House was resumed.

8. Tax harmonisation—The Lord Willoughby de Broke asked Her Majesty’s Government whetherthey support current proposals for tax harmonisation in the European Union; after debate,the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

9. Access to Justice Bill [hl] —The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 16)

The House was adjourned at a quarter-before one o’clockin the morning of Friday 29th January to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]On question, whether Clause 31 stand part of the bill, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 77

Not-Contents … … … … … 88

CONTENTS

Acton, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archerof Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donnington, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Desai, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gallacher, L.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.

Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Laming, L.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller].Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rendell of Babergh, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thornton, B.Trefgarne, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Abinger, L.Ackner, L. [Teller]Alton of Liverpool, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Attlee, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Bellhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Buckinghamshire, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnock, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cross, V.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dixon-Smith, L.Dudley, E.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.

Die Lunae 1) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.

Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Halsbury, E.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hooper B.Howe, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Kingsland, L.Kitchener, E.Knutsford, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Luke, L.McConnell, L.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.

Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.

Perry of Southwark, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Rankeillour, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rotherwick, L.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Tebbitt, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Trenchard, V.Vivian, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wilberforce, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.

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Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.

Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.

Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.

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Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.

Judicial Business

1. Primback Ltd (Respondents) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Appellants)—UponReport from the Appellate Committee, it was ordered that the following questions be referredto the Court of Justice of the European Communities for a preliminary ruling pursuant toArticle 177 of the treaty establishing the European Economic Community:

“1. Where a retailer oVers, at a single price, goods and the option of a period of extendedcredit to pay that price—the credit to be provided by a person other than the retailer, andat no additional cost to the customer—what is the taxable amount for which the retailermust account in respect of the goods supplied, having regard to Articles 11A(1)(a) and13B(d)(1) of Council Directive 77/388/EEC? In particular, is the taxable amount

(a) the full amount payable by the customer;

(b) the full amount payable by the customer, less the value of the credit;

(c) (if diVerent from (b) above) the amount actually received by the retailer; or

(d) an amount calculated on some other, and if so what, basis?

Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.

Strange, B.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. If the taxable amount is the full amount payable by the customer, less the value of thecredit (see Question (1)(b) above), how is that credit to be valued?

3. Is the answer to Question 1 above aVected by the fact that(a) the supply of goods to the customer is described as being on “interest free” credit

terms;(b) the customer signs a loan agreement with a finance house at the time of the sale

transaction, the terms of which include(i) a promise by the finance house to pay the retailer a sum equal to the loan (which

was for amount equal to the advertised price of the goods);(ii) a statement that the interest rate applying to the loan is “0%”; and(iii) an authorisation by the customer to the finance house for it to pay the full

amount of the loan to the retailer and an agreement by the finance house to doso; and

(c) as a result of a separate agreement between the retailer and the finance house (theexistence and terms of which are not disclosed to the customer), the sum received bythe retailer is a sum less than the full amount of the advertised price for the goods?”.

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant) (England)—The appeal of Myra Hindley was presented and it was ordered thatin accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on orbefore 15th March next. The appellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Xydhias (Petitioner) v. Xydhias (A.P.) (Respondent) (lodged 19th January)—The petition ofHarry Costas Xydhias praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee. The respondent’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

4. RatcliVe (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. G R McConnell and another (sued on their own behalf and onbehalf of all other Governors of Harper Adams College) (Respondents) (lodged 29thJanuary)—The petition of Luke William RatcliVe praying for leave to appeal was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Air Services—Government Response to the 8th Report of the House of Commons

Environment, Transport and Regional AVairs Committee, Session 1997–98, on RegionalAir Services; (29th January) (4257)

2. Education—The BEST for Teaching and Learning in Wales: The BEST ProgrammeBuilding Excellent Schools Together: Government consultation document; (29th January)

(4150)3. Salary Review Bodies—Reports for 1999 of:

(i) The Armed Forces’ Pay Review Body; (1st February) (4242)(ii) The School Teachers’ Review Body; (1st February) (4244)(iii) The Review Body for Nursing StaV, Midwives, Health Visitors and Professions

Allied to Medicine, on Nursing StaV, Midwives and Health Visitors; (1st February)(4240)

(iv) The Review Body for Nursing StaV, Midwives, Health Visitors and ProfessionsAllied to Medicine, on Professions Allied to Medicine; (1st February) (4241)

(v) The Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Remuneration; (1st February) (4243)(vi) The Review Body on Senior Salaries. (1st February) (4245)

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Protection of Wrecks (Designation) Order 1999, laid under the Protection of Wrecks Act

1973; (186)2. Housing Revenue Account General Fund Contribution Limits (Scotland) Order 1999,

laid under the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987; (164)3. Statute made by Magdalen College, Oxford on 5th October 1998, laid under the

Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. (—)

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8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Fourth Edition of Amendments to the Queen’s Regulations for the Royal Air Force, laid

under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;2. Report for 1998 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the

Regions on the number of notices served and directions given by him under certainarticles of the Channel Tunnel (Security) Order 1994 and the number of enforcementnotices served by authorised persons, laid under that Order;

3. Report by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions onOrdnance Survey, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973;

4. Report for 1998 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and theRegions on the number of notices served and directions given by him under certainsections of the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990 and the number of enforcementnotices served by authorised persons, laid under that Act;

5. Report for 1998 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and theRegions on the number of notices served and directions given by him under certainsections of the Aviation Security Act 1982 as amended by the Aviation and MaritimeSecurity Act 1990 and the number of enforcement notices served by authorised persons,laid under the Aviation Security Act 1982;

6. Petroleum (Current Model Clauses) Order 1999, laid under the Petroleum Act 1998.(160)

Public Business

9. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time;an amendment was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreedto; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and sent to theCommons.

10. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committeeupon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn;amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed.

11. Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Earl of Lindsay that the billbe now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committedto a Committee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

12. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committeeupon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn;amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 33 stood part.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 2) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber of Tewkesbury, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.

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Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.

Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Fairhaven, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.

Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kilbracken, L.

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Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlborough, D.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.

Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.

Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.

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Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.

Judicial Business

1. Sanctuary Housing Association (Petitioners) v. Baker (Respondent)—The petition of SanctuaryHousing Association praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited byStanding Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Chief Adjudication OYcer (Appellant) v. Faulds (Respondent) (Scotland)—The petition of theappellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 15th March next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Broadcasting—Memorandum by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport in responseto the 8th Report of the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport Committee, Session1997–98, on the Report and Accounts of the BBC for 1997–98. (4258)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Act of Sederunt (Fees of Witnesses in the SheriV Court) (Amendment) 1999, laid under

the SheriV Courts (Scotland) Act 1907; (188)2. Civil Courts (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the County Courts Act 1984. (216)

Select Committee Reports

5. Statutory Instruments—The 7th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Development Commission (Transfer of Functions and Miscellaneous Provisions)Order 1999;Draft Diplomatic Privileges (British Nationals) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 22)

6. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made andordered to be printed:Delegation of Powers to the Commission: Reforming Comitology; (3rd Report—HL Paper23)Correspondence with Ministers; (4th Report—HL Paper 24)Evidence by Joyce Quin MP, Minister for Europe, Foreign and Commonwealth OYce, on theVienna European Council. (5th Report—HL Paper 25)

Public Business

7. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; anamendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedand the bill was reported without amendment; the report was received.

8. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]— The House resolved itself into a Committee uponthe bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendmentwas agreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with an amendment; it wasordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 17)

9. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath that the bill benow read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed toa Committee of the Whole House.

Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.

Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

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10. Airports: planning procedures—The Lord Gladwyn asked Her Majesty’s Government whetherthey are satisfied that current planning procedures respecting proposals for new commercialairports take adequate account of environmental considerations and national policyrequirements; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past seven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Mercurii 3) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.

Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crawley, B.Cross, V.

Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.

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Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Habgood, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.

Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.

Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.

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Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.

Judicial Business

1. Stannifer Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Glasgow Development Agency and others(Respondents) (Scotland)—The appeal of Stannifer Developments Limited was presentedand it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendixthereto be lodged on or before 17th March next.

2. Appeal Committee—The 19th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Petitioner) ex parte Factortame Limited andothers (Respondents)—That the petition of the Secretary of State for Transport praying forleave to present an appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order I hasexpired be allowed and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 17th February next.

Papers

3. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Antarctica—Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty. (4256)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Miscellaneous Products of Animal Origin (Import Conditions) Regulations 1999, laid

under the European Communities Act 1972; (157)2. National Institute for Clinical Excellence (Establishment and Constitution) Order 1999,

laid under the National Health Service Act 1977. (220)

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the wool textile industry export promotion levy, together with

the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the IndustrialOrganisation and Development Act 1947;

2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the gas levy, together with the Report of the Comptroller andAuditor General, laid under the Gas Levy Act 1981.

Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.

Thurso, V.Tombs, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Public Business

6. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Baroness Gardner of Parkes set down for today shall be limited to6 hours; the motion was agreed to.

7. Select Committee on the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank of England—It was moved bythe Chairman of Committees that the Lord Roll of Ipsden be appointed to serve as a memberof the Committee; the motion was agreed to.

8. National Health Service (6-hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Gardner of Parkes thatthere be laid before the House papers relating to the state of the National Health Service; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

9. Family farms—The Lord Beaumont of Whitley asked Her Majesty’s Government what measuresthey intend to take to alleviate the economic hardships, both present and forecast, of thoseinvolved in family farms; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hoyle.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

Die Jovis 4) Februarii 1999

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.

Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.

Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Cromartie, E.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.

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Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Huntingdon, E.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilbracken, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.

Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.

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Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rankeillour, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.

Judicial Business

1. Christopher Moran Holdings Limited (Respondents) v. Bairstow and another (Appellants)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged thatthe Order of the Court of Appeal of 22nd July 1997 be set aside and that the Order of MrJustice Ferris of 9th February 1996 be restored, save that in lieu of the sum of £1,053,000 thereshall be substituted such sum as will be produced by applying a discount rate of 8.5 per cent.to both the passing rents and the current market rents; and that the respondents do pay to theappellants their costs in this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and others(Respondents) (England)—The appeal of the Secretary of State for Transport was presentedand it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendixthereto be lodged on or before 18th March next.

Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.

Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Robert AlfredHurst was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 18th March next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

4. Viscount Greenwood—Eric George Hamar Viscount Greenwood sat first in Parliament after thedeath of his brother, David Henry Hamar Viscount Greenwood, having first taken andsubscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Monopolies and Mergers Commission—Cendant Corporation and RAC Holdings

Limited: a report on the merger situation; (4196)2. Hong Kong—Report for July to December 1998 on Hong Kong; (4190)3. Defence—Minute by the Ministry of Defence on the gifting of precision-guided bombs

to the Royal Saudi Air Force. (—)

6. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Finance) Order 1999;2. Draft Education (Student Support) Regulations 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. M4 Motorway (Hillingdon and Hounslow) (Speed Limits) (Amendment) Regulations

1999, laid under the Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984; (167)2. Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (England) Regulations 1998

(Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1996. (252)

Private Business

8. City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [hl]—A petition was deposited against the bill on behalf ofTenpin Bowling Proprietors’ Association of Great Britain (No. 1) by Winckworth Sherwood.

Public Business

9. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that the amendments for theReport Stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:

Clause 1 Clauses 37 to 50Schedule 1 Schedule 7Clauses 2 to 7 Clause 51Schedule 2 Schedule 8Clauses 8 to 14 Clauses 52 to 60Schedule 3 Schedule 9Clauses 15 to 22 Clauses 61 to 74Schedule 4 Schedule 10Clauses 23 to 34 Clause 75Schedule 5 Schedule 11Clauses 35 and 36 Clauses 76 to 79;Schedule 6

the motion was agreed to.

10. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedand the bill was reported without amendment.

11. Social Security Benefits Up–rating (No. 2) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Amos, onbehalf of the Baroness Hollis of Heigham, t hat the draft Order laid before the House on 26thJanuary be approved; the motion was agreed to.

12. Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice No. 5) Order 1998—It was moved bythe Lord Hoyle that the Order laid before the House on 15th December 1998 be approved;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

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13. Apportionment of Money in the National Lottery Distribution Fund Order 1999—It was movedby the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 20th Januarybe approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at two minutes past nine o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.

Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.

Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.

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Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.

Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.

Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.

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Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

1. Oath—John GeoVrey Lord Trevethin and Oaksey took and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

2. Leave of absence—It was ordered that the leave of absence granted to the Lord Henniker beterminated.

Judicial Business

3. Union Carbide Corporation (a body corporate) (Respondents) v. B P Chemicals Limited(Petitioners) (lodged 17th December)—The petition of B P Chemicals Limited praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Regina v. Leeds Crown Court (Respondents) ex parte Hunt (A.P.) (Petitioner) and others(application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of Colin Hunt praying for anextension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal inaccordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

5. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Mander Hadley (Respondents)—The petitionof the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and settingdown the cause for hearing might be extended to 2nd March next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

6. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 5th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. (i) Chemicals (Hazard Information and Packaging for Supply) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999— (197)(ii) Transport of Dangerous Goods (Safety Advisers) Regulations 1999— (257)

laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;2. (i) Local Authorities (Alteration of Requisite Calculations) (England) Regulations

1999— (228)(ii) Local Government Changes for England (Council Tax) (Transitional Reduction)

Regulations 1999— (259)laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;

3. Road TraYc OVenders (Prescribed Devices) Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYcOVenders Act 1988; (162)

4. (i) Education (Objections to Admission Arrangements) Regulations 1999— (125)(ii) Draft Code of Practice on School Admissions— (—)(iii) Education (Aptitude for Particular Subjects) Regulations 1999— (258)(iv) Education (Determination of Admission Arrangements) Regulations 1999— (126)(v) Education (Relevant Areas for Consultation on Admission Arrangements)

Regulations 1999— (124)(vi) Draft Welsh OYce Code of Practice on School Admissions— (—)

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;5. (i) Education (School Information) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—(251)

Thornton, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trevethin and Oaksey, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.

Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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(ii) Education (School Information) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (127)(iii) Local Education Authority (Post-Compulsory Education Awards) Regulations

1999— (229)laid under the Education Act 1996;

6. National Institute for Clinical Excellence Regulations 1999, laid under the NationalHealth Service Act 1977; (260)

7. Education (Registered Inspectors of Schools Appeal Tribunal and Registered NurseryEducation Inspectors Appeal Tribunal) (Procedure) Regulations 1999, laid under theSchool Inspections Act 1996; (265)

8. York Sixth Form College (Dissolution) Order 1999, laid under the Further and HigherEducation Act 1992. (218)

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Education (Student Loans) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;2. Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Euro-Mediterranean Agreement

establishing an Association between the European Communities and their MemberStates and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) Order 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Child Benefit (Residence and Persons Abroad) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under

the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (198)2. Medicines (Advertising and Monitoring of Advertising) Amendment Regulations 1999,

laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (267)3. Police (Retention and Disposal of Items seized under section 60 of the Criminal Justice

and Public Order Act 1994) Regulations 1999, laid under the Criminal Justice and PublicOrder Act 1994; (269)

4. Draft North Western and North Wales Sea Fisheries District Order 1999, laid under theSea Fisheries Regulation Act 1966; (—)

5. Non-Domestic Rate (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government (Scotland)Act 1975; (254)

6. European Economic Interest Grouping (Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under the FinanceAct 1973; (268)

7. National Health Service (Fund-holding Practices) Amendment Regulations 1999, laidunder the National Health Service Act 1977; (261)

8. Education Act 1996 (Special Purpose and Capital Grants) (Modification) Regulations1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998. (274)

9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report for 1997–98 on the Public Lending Right Scheme, laid under the Public Lending RightAct 1979.

Select Committee Report

10. Science and Technology—It was ordered that the Evidence on Management of Nuclear Wastesubmitted from 1st February 1998 be printed. (HL Paper 26)

Public Business

11. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committeeupon the bill; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; the Housewas resumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 18)

12. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (North-East Atlantic Fisheries Commission)Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laidbefore the House on 11th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.

13. European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the North-East Atlantic FisheriesCommission) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that thedraft Order laid before the House on 11th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.

14. Diplomatic Privileges (British Nationals) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farringtonof Ribbleton t hat the draft Order laid before the House on 28th January be approved; themotion was agreed to.

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15. Departments (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Orderlaid before the House on 26th January be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at nine o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Camoys, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crook, L.Cross, V.

Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.

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Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kindersley, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.

Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.

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Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

1. Queen’s Speech—The Queen’s answer to the Address of 2nd December last was delivered by theLord Chamberlain (Lord Camoys) and read, as follows:I have received with great satisfaction the loyal and dutiful expression of your thanks for thespeech with which I opened the present Session of Parliament.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Respondent) ex parte Watt (Petitioner)(Northern Ireland)—The petition of Margaret Watt praying for leave to appeal in accordancewith the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978 was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 17th Report:Regina v. Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate and the Lord Advocate (Petitioner) ex parteGranada Television Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given and that thepetition of appeal be lodged forthwith.

Papers

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

(i) Scheme for Construction Contracts in Northern Ireland Regulations (NorthernIreland) 1999— (32)

(ii) Construction Contracts Exclusion Order (Northern Ireland) 1999— (33)laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1974.

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland on Policing Principles for

Northern Ireland, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 1998;2. Report for 1997–98 of the London Regional Passengers Committee, laid under the

London Regional Transport Act 1984;3. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the British Railways Board, laid under the

Transport Act 1962;4. Report for 1997–98 of the OYce for Standards in Education, laid under the Schools

Inspection Act 1996.

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.

Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Select Committee Report

6. Statutory Instruments—The 8th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Finance) Order 1999;Draft Education (Student Loans) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;Draft Education (Student Support) Regulations 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 27)

Private Business

7. Kent County Council Bill [hl]—A petition was deposited against the bill on behalf of AshfordCattle Market Company Limited (No. 1) by Rees & Freres. [5th February]

Public Business

8. Health Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Hayman that the bill be now read a second time;then it was moved by the Earl Howe, as an amendment thereto, at end to insert “but thisHouse regrets that neither the definition of a Primary Care Trust nor any adequate provisionsrelating to the functions, powers, responsibilities and structure of such are contained in theBill; and calls upon Her Majesty’s Government to amend the Bill accordingly”; after debate,the amendment was (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then the original motion was agreedto and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

9. University accommodation—The Lord Tope asked Her Majesty’s Government whether adequatemeasures and inspection arrangements are in force to ensure the safety of university studentswho rent accommodation; after debate, the question was answered by the BaronessFarrington of Ribbleton.

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Mercurii 10) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.

Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.

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Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundonald, E.Eames, L.

Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Granard, E.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.

Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.James of Holland Park, B.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kindersley, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

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Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

Judicial Business

1. Barclays Bank plc (Petitioners) v. Dean and others (Respondents) and two other actions—Uponapplication by the petitioners (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), it wasordered that the petition be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs.

Peel, E.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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2. Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 25th March next (the agents for therespondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:Investment Protection—Agreements between the United Kingdom and:

(i) Moldova; (4260)(ii) the Kyrgyz Republic; (4259)

for the Promotion and Protection of Investments.

4. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft National Assembly for Wales (Disqualification) Order 1999.

5. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Building Societies (Contents of Accounts) Regulations 1999, laid under the Building SocietiesAct 1986. (248)

Public Business

6. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Freyberg set down for today shall be limited to 3 hours andthat in the name of the Earl of Listowel to 2° hours; the motion was agreed to.

7. Arts (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Freyberg that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the case for a change in the way in which the arts in this country are governedand managed; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

8. Homeless young people (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Earl of Listowel that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the case for an appropriate range of eVective services tomeet the needs of homeless young people under the age of 25; after debate, the motion was(by leave of the House) withdrawn.

9. Freedom of Information Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Lucas that the bill be now read asecond time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned at four minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

Die Jovis 11) Februarii 1999

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.

Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.

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BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.

Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cromartie, E.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Granard, E.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henderson of Brompton, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.

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Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Manchester, D.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.

Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Morton, E.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.

Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.

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Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Salem (A.P.)(Appellant)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 6th March 1998 be aYrmed and the appealdismissed; and that there be no order as to costs save that the costs of the appellant in thisHouse be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

2. Regina v. North Yorkshire County Council (Appellants) ex parte Brown and another(Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 27th January 1998 be aYrmed and theappeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties.

3. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Redrow Group plc (Appellants)—TheReport from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that theOrder of the Court of Appeal of 9th June 1997 be set aside; that the decision of the ValueAdded Tax and Duties Tribunal of 6th April 1995 be aYrmed; that the assessments of theCommissioners of Customs and Excise of 5th October 1993 be discharged; and that therespondents do pay to the appellants their costs in the Court of Appeal and before this House,the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if notagreed between the parties.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

4. Oath—Angus Charles Drogo Duke of Manchester took and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

Papers

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Broxtowe Borough

Council, South Somerset District Council and Thurrock Borough Council) Order 1999,laid under the Local Government Act 1988; (219)

2. Water (Compulsory Works Powers) (Notice) Regulations 1999, laid under the WaterIndustry Act 1991; (221)

3. Non-Domestic Rates (Levying) (Scotland) Regulations 1999, laid under the LocalGovernment etc. (Scotland) Act 1994; (276)

4. Confirmation to Small Estates (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Confirmation toSmall Estates (Scotland) Act 1979; (290)

5. Carriage of Dangerous Goods (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Healthand Safety at Work etc. Act 1974; (303)

6. Personal Injuries (Civilians) Amendment Scheme 1999, laid under the Personal Injuries(Emergency Provisions) Act 1939. (262)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report by the Scottish Law Commission on the Abolition of the Feudal System, laid

under the Law Commissions Act 1965;2. (i) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (United Nations Sanctions) (Dependent Territories)

(Amendment) Order 1999— (281)(ii) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (United Nations Sanctions) (Isle of Man)

(Amendment) Order 1999— (285)(iii) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (United Nations Sanctions) (Channel Islands)

(Amendment) Order 1999— (284)

Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.

Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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(iv) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (United Nations Sanctions) (Amendment) Order1999— (280)laid under the United Nations Act 1946;

3. Insolvency Act 1986 Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Report of the Comptrollerand Auditor General, laid under that Act;

4. Report for 1998 by the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions ofexemptions granted under section 294 of the Merchant Shipping Act 1995, laid under thatAct;

5. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Accounts Commission for Scotland, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Government(Scotland) Act 1973.

Public Business

7. Water Industry Bill—A bill to make further provision in relation to England and Wales as tocharges in respect of the supply of water and the provision of sewerage services and to makeprovision in relation to Scotland for the establishment and functions of a Water IndustryCommissioner for Scotland; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons,read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 19)

8. Water Industry Bill —It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed.(HL Bill 19–EN)

9. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The report was received; an amendment was agreed to (see division list1); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreedto; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); further consideration on report wasadjourned.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

10. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration onreport was adjourned after amendment 96.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes past midnightin the morning of Friday 12th February to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Lloyd of Berwick, before Clause 1, to insert the new clause (Principlesapplicable to Part I); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 182

Not-Contents … … … … … 111

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, LAttlee, E.Avebury, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belstead, L.Bethell, L.

Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Bramall, L.Bridges, L.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.

Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Clement-Jones, L.Cobbold, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.

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Dixon-Smith, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eames, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Gladwyn, L.Glasgow, E.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Granard, E.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenahm, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Iveagh, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jopling, L.Kingsland, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.

Kinloss, Ly.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L. [Teller]Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.

Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Diamond, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, LGlanusk, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Quinton, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.St. Davids, V.Sandys, L.Seccombe, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Warnock, B.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Young, B.

Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kirkhill, L.Levy, L.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.

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Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.

Division No. 2

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Clinton-Davis, in Clause 6, page 4, line 16 at end to insert:

(“( ) In determining the amount appropriate for the funding of services as part of the CommunityLegal Service, the Lord Chancellor shall not take into account the level of expenditure expected for theCriminal Defence Service.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 54

Not-Contents … … … … … 86

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Alderdice, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Astor of Hever, LAttlee, E.Bridgeman, V.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Clanwilliam, E.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cross, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Falkland, V.Gardner of Parkes, B.Goodhart, L. [Teller]

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenbury of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brrooks of Tremorfa, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.

Sainsbury of Turville, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.

Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.Henley, L.Hogg, B.Hooson, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Kingsland, L.Kinnoull, E.Leigh, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Meston, L.Monk Bretton, L.

Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.

Tenby, V.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wrenbury, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Norrie, L.Oxfuird, V.Phillips of Sudbury, L. [Teller]Renton, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Shrewsbury E.Stewartby, L.Taverne, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.TordoV, L.Vivian, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.

Hardy of Wath, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollick, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Macdonald of Trdeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.

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Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Paul, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.

Die Lunae 15) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Weedon, L.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.

Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.

Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.

Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Cromartie, E.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.

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Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lincoln, Bp.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pender, L.

Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plumb, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1. Union Bank of Finland (Respondents) v. Lelakis (Petitioner)—Upon application by thepetitioner (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petitionbe withdrawn.

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on 12th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Headquarters Agreements—Exchange of Notes amending the Headquarters Agreements

between the United Kingdom and—(i) the Commonwealth Telecommunications Organisation; (4224)(ii) INTELSAT; (4198)(iii) CAB International (previously known as the Commonwealth Agricultural Bureaux);

(4222)(iv) the Commonwealth Foundation; (4223)(v) the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts; (4225)(vi) the International Cocoa Organization; (4226)(vii) the International CoVee Organization; (4227)(viii) the International Grains Council (previously known as the International Wheat

Council; (4228)(ix) the International Lead and Zinc Study Group; (4229)(x) the International Mobile Satellite Organization (previously known as the

International Maritime Satellite Organization); (4231)(xi) the International Rubber Study Group; (4232)(xii) the International Sugar Organization; (4233)(xiii) the International Whaling Commission; (4234)(xiv) the International Oil Pollution Compensation Fund 1992; (4237)(xv) the International Oil Pollution Compensation Fund; (4236)(xvi) the International Maritime Organization (previously known as the Inter-

Governmental Maritime Consultative Organization); (4230)together with explanatory memoranda;

2. Marine Pollution—Exchange of Notes amending the Agreement relating to theCommissions established by the Convention for the Prevention of Marine Pollution byDumping from Ships and Aircraft 1972 and the Convention for the Prevention of MarinePollution from Land-based Sources 1974. (4235)

3. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999;2. Draft Appropriation (Northern Ireland) Order 1999.

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Authorities (Alteration of Requisite Calculations) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Local Government Finance Act 1992; (296)2. National Health Service (General Medical Services) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid

under the National Health Service Act 1977; (326)

Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.

Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Employer’s Contributions Re-imbursement Amendment Regulations 1999, laid underthe Jobseekers Act 1995; (286)

4. Self-Governing Schools (Publication of Proposals for Discontinuance) (Scotland)Regulations 1999, laid under the Self-Governing Schools etc. (Scotland) Act 1989; (337)

5. Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) Order 1999,laid under the National Savings Bank Act 1971; (—)

6. (i) Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (General) (Amendment) Regulations1999— (346)

(ii) Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) Regulations1999— (345)laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988.

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks) Fund, together

with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Marine andAviation Insurance (War Risks) Act 1952;

2. Consultation Report on the NHS Estates Trading Fund Order, laid under theGovernment Trading Funds Act 1973.

Public Business

6. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 20)

7. Development Commission (Transfer of Functions and Miscellaneous Provisions) Order 1999—Itwas moved by the Lord Whitty that the draft Order laid before the House on 27th January beapproved; the motion was agreed to.

8. Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Finance) Order 1999—It was movedby the Lord Sewel that the draft Order laid before the House on 4th February be approved;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

9. Railways (Rateable Values) (Scotland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel that the draftOrder laid before the House on 21st January be approved; the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at eight o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.

Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attenborough, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.

Bath and Wells, Bp.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.

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Boston of Faversham, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.

Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feversham, L.Fisher of Rednal, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.

Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.

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Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.

Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Spens, L.StaVord, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1. Scarborough Building Society (Respondents) v. Howes Percival (a firm) (Petitioners)—Uponapplication by the petitioners (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), it wasordered that the petition be withdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties and oncondition that the petitioners do pay to the respondents any costs incurred in respect of thepetition for leave to appeal to this House, such costs to be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 3rd Report:

Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Petitioners)—That leave toappeal be given be given on condition that the petitioners do pay the respondent’s costs in anyevent and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2nd March next.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 4th Report:

Docker and others (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Chief Constable of the West Midlands Police(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2ndMarch next.

4. Appeal Committee—The 20th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:

Society of Lloyd’s (Petitioners and Original Respondents) v. Robinson (Original Appellantand Cross-Respondent) and another—That leave to cross-appeal be given on condition thatthe cross-appellants do pay the costs of such cross-appeal.

5. Society of Lloyd’s (Cross-Appellants and Original Respondents) v. Robinson (OriginalAppellant and Cross-Respondent) and another (England)—The cross-appeal of the Societyof Lloyds was presented and was referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Special Hospitals—Volume 2 of the Report of the Committee of Inquiry into the PersonalityDisorder Unit, Ashworth Special Hospital: Expert Evidence on Personality Disorder. (4195)

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Draft National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Functions) Order 1999;

2. Draft Scottish Parliament (Disqualification) Order 1999;

3. Draft Scottish Parliament (First Ordinary General Election and First Meeting) Order1999;

4. Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999;

5. Draft National Minimum Wage Act 1998 (Amendment) Regulations 1999;

6. Draft National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999.

8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

Report by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on Regulations Implementing theNational Minimum Wage, laid under the National Minimum Wage Act 1998.

Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.

Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Woolf, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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9. Statutory Instruments—The 9th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Euro-Mediterranean Agreementestablishing an Association between the European Communities and their MemberStates and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) Order 1999;Draft National Assembly for Wales (Disqualification) Order 1999;Draft National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 28)

Public Business

10. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; an amendment was agreedto (see division list); further amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration on report was adjourned.

11. Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 (Amnesty Period) Order 1999—It was movedby the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 1st February be approved;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

12. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the billbe printed as amended. (HL Bill 21)

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, in Clause 13, page 9, line 27, to leave out from beginningto (“or”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 189

Not-Contents … … … … … 134

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alton of Liverpool, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruntisfield, L.

Burnham, L.Buscombe, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.

Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dundee, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erne, E.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Gainford, L.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.

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Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Jacobs, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jopling, L.Kingsland, L.Kintore, E.Knollys, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lawrence, L.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Macclesfield, E.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Merrivale, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attenborough, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Bruce of Donnington, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carnarvon, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.

Monro of Langholm, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Seccombe, B.

Davies of Coity, L.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Eatwell, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.

Sharp of Guildford, B.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stair, E.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Walliswood, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walpole, L.Weatherill, L.Weir, V.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kirkhill, L.Levy, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

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Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nunburnholme, L.Orme, L.Paul, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.

Die Mercurii 17) Februarii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.

Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Sewel, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.

Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.

Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.

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Dulverton, L.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fisher of Rednal, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.

Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Judd, L.Kenyon, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.

Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

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Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

1. Lord Williamson of Horton—Sir David Francis Williamson GCMG CB, having been createdBaron Williamson of Horton, of Horton in the County of Somerset, for life by Letters Patentdated 5th February 1999 (see appendix), was introduced between the Baroness Elles and theLord Whitty, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; andtook and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Arthur J S Hall & Co (Petitioners) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—The respondent’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 9th Report:

Scandecor Development AB (Petitioners) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others(Respondents) and one other action—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Holland (Petitioner) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given and thatthe petition of appeal be lodged by 3rd March next.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Health—Towards a Healthier Scotland: Government proposals. (4269)

Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.

Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. National Health Service (Fund-Holding Practices) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations

1999, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; (365)2. (i) Local Authorities (Requisite Calculations) (Wales) (Prescribed Amounts)

Regulations 1999— (297)(ii) Council Tax Reduction Scheme (Wales) Regulations 1999— (347)(iii) Council Tax (Demand Notices) (Wales) (Transitional Provisions) Regulations

1999— (348)laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;

3. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Stoke on Trent CityCouncil) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1988; (315)

4. Education (Transition to New Framework) (New Schools, Groups and Miscellaneous)Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (362)

5. Insolvency (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986. (359)

Select Committee Report

6. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:7th Report, on the Health Bill [hl]. (HL Paper 29)

Public Business

7. Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl]—A bill to make further provision about theregistration of births and deaths where particulars are given in Welsh as well as English andto make new provision about certificates of particulars of entries in registers of births anddeaths was presented by the Lord Elis-Thomas, read a first time and ordered to be printed.(HL Bill 22)

8. Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the ExplanatoryNotes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 22–EN)

9. Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [hl]—A bill to make new provision in respect ofrepresentation in the Scottish Parliament and in relation to the Boundary Commission forScotland; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish,read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 23)

10. Severn Tunnel (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Crickhowell that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the planned closure of the Severn Tunnel this summer and theconsequences for users and the Welsh economy; after debate, the motion was (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn.

11. House of Lords: separation of powers (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Lester of HerneHill that there be laid before the House papers relating to the arrangements for maintainingthe separation of powers in the House of Lords between the judicial branch and the legislativeand executive branches of government; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House)withdrawn.

12. Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.

13. Ministerial correspondence—The Lord Glenarthur asked Her Majesty’s Government whatcriteria they apply to the timeliness and completeness of replies by Ministers and oYcials tocorrespondence from members of both Houses of Parliament and the public; and whether theyare satisfied that they are meeting such criteria; after debate, the question was answered by theLord Falconer of Thoroton.

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before eight o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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APPENDIX

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir DavidFrancis Williamson Knight Grand Cross of Our Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and SaintGeorge Companion of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath to the state degree style dignity titleand honour of Baron Williamson of Horton in Our County of SomersetAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Williamson of Horton to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsteron the fifth day of February in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

Die Jovis 18) Februarii 1999The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.

Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.

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Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.

Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenyon, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.

Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Morton, E.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.

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Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pike, B.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1. Credit Lyonnais Nederland NV (now known as Generale Bank Nederland NV)(Appellants) v. Export Credits Guarantee Department (Respondents)—The Report fromthe Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of theCourt of Appeal of 23rd July 1997 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amountthereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Platform Home Loans Limited (Appellants) v. Oyston Shipways Limited and others(Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 19th December 1997 be varied so that, inparagraph 3, for the sum “£400,000” there be substituted the sum “£489,398.81”; in paragraph6, for the word “damages” there be substituted the word “interest”; that paragraph 5 be setaside; that there be no order as to the costs of the appellants’ cross-appeal to the Court ofAppeal; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs before this House, theamount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.

3. Appeal Committee—The 21st Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’sBenefits Plan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, The Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-Canadian Master Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) andothers (Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Petitioners) and others—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 4th March next.

Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.

Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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IM Properties plc (Petitioners) v. Cape & Dalgleish (a firm) (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition,the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.White (Petitioner) v. White (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petitionof appeal be lodged by 4th March next.White (Petitioner) v. White (Respondent) (Second Petition)—That leave to appeal be givenand that the petition of appeal be lodged by 4th March next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Housing—Accounts for 1997–98 of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, together

with the Report of the Local Government Auditor and the Comptroller and AuditorGeneral; (4268)

2. Headquarters Agreement—Headquarters Agreement between the United Kingdom andthe North-East Atlantic Fisheries Commission; (4265)

3. European Air Group—Agreement Between the United Kingdom and France concerningthe European Air Group. (4270)

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Hill Livestock (Compensatory Allowances) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—

(375)(ii) OVshore Petroleum Production and Pipe-lines (Assessment of Environmental

EVects) Regulations 1999— (360)(iii) Highways (Assessment of Environmental EVects) Regulations 1999— (369)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;2. Family Homes and Domestic Violence (Allocation of Proceedings) Order (Northern

Ireland) 1999, laid under the Family Homes and Domestic Violence (Northern Ireland)Order 1998; (—)

3. Processed Cereal-based Foods and Baby Foods for Infants and Young Children(Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (275)

4. Town and Country Planning (Costs of Inquiries etc.) (Standard Daily Amount)Regulations 1999, laid under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990; (327)

5. Housing (Right to Buy) (Limits on Discount) (Wales) Order 1999, laid under the HousingAct 1985. (292)

Private Business

6. London Local Authorities Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to theCommons.

7. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [hl]—The bill was read a second time and referred to theExaminers.

8. City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [hl]—The bill was read a second time and committed to a SelectCommittee.

9. Kent County Council Bill [hl]—The bill was read a second time and committed to a SelectCommittee.

10. Medway Council Bill [hl]—The bill was read a second time and committed to an Unopposed BillCommittee.

11. United Reformed Church Bill [hl]—The bill was read a second time and referred to the Examiners.

Public Business

12. Easter Act 1928 (Commencement) Bill [hl]—A bill to bring into force the Easter Act 1928 waspresented by the Earl of Dartmouth, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 24)

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13. Health Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Hayman that it be an instruction to the Committeeof the Whole House to whom the Health Bill [HL] has been committed that they consider thebill in the following order:

Clauses 1 and 2 Schedule 3Schedule 1 Clauses 48 to 50Clauses 3 to 14 Schedules 4 and 5Schedule 2 Clauses 51 to 54;Clauses 15 to 47

the motion was agreed to.

14. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedand the bill was reported without amendment.

15. Education (Student Support) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringeythat the draft Regulations laid before the House on 4th February be approved; after debate,the motion was agreed to.

16. Education (Student Loans) (Scotland) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 8th February be approved; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

17. Education (School Performance Information) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 1998—It wasmoved by the Baroness Blatch that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty prayingthat the Regulations, laid before the House on 23rd December 1998, be annulled (S.I. 1998/3260); after debate, the motion was negatived.

The House was adjourned at one minute past eight o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 22) Februarii 1999The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attenborough, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.

Balfour of Burleigh, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bauer, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.

Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.

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CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hawke, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemingford, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.

Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leigh, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.

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McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nickson, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.

Plumb, L.Polwarth, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rathcavan, L.Rathcreedan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. Germans, E.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.

Southwark, Bp.StaVord, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

1. Oath—Peregrine Nicholas Earl of St Germans took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. B (by his mother and next friend) (Appellant) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)(On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal of B waspresented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.

3. Regina v. Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate and the Lord Advocate (Appellant) ex parteGranada Television Limited (Respondents) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The appeal of the Lord Advocate was presented and ordered to beprosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.

4. Cantor Fitzgerald International (Petitioners) v. Callaghan and others (Respondents)—Thepetition of Cantor Fitzgerald International praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Regina v. Miah (Petitioner)—Upon application by the petitioner (the agents for the respondentsconsenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn on the terms agreed betweenthe parties.

6. Jolley (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Sutton (Respondents)—The appeal was set downfor hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

7. Walker (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Centaur Clothes Group Limited(Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

8. Berkeley (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 22nd March next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

9. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 15th February, waswithdrawn on 22nd February:Draft National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999.

10. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Housing—Investing in Modernisation–An Agenda For Scotland’s Housing: Governmentconsultation paper. (4272)

11. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 19th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Carriage of Cargoes) Regulations 1999, laid under the Merchant

Shipping Act 1995; (336)2. (i) Environmental Impact Assessment (Fish Farming in Marine Waters) Regulations

1999— (367)(ii) Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) (England and

Wales) Regulations 1999— (293)laid under the European Communities Act 1972.

12. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Northern Ireland (Modification of Enactments—No. 1) Order 1999;2. Draft Water (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;3. Draft National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999;4. Draft Strategic Planning (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;5. Draft Energy EYciency (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;6. Draft Trade Union Subscription Deductions (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;7. Draft Civil Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;8. Draft Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;9. Draft Social Security (New Deal Pilot) Amendment Regulations 1999;

10. Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999.

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13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Scottish Local Elections Amendment Rules 1999, laid under the Representation of the

People Act 1983; (406)2. Food Safety (Fishery Products and Live Shellfish) (Hygiene) Amendment Regulations

1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (399)3. Prisons and Young OVenders Institutions (Scotland) Amendment Rules 1999, laid under

the Prisons (Scotland) Act 1989; (374)4. Welfare of Animals (Slaughter or Killing) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

European Communities Act 1972; (400)5. Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order

1999, laid under the Criminal Justice Act 1988; (282)6. (i) Education (School Organisation Committees) (Initial Financial Arrangements)

(England) Regulations 1999— (398)(ii) Education (School Attendance Targets) (England) Regulations 1999— (397)

laid under the laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;7. Parliamentary Commissioner Order 1999, laid under the Parliamentary Commissioner

Act 1967. (277)

14. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1997–98 of the Scottish Qualifications Authority, laid under the Education

(Scotland) Act 1996;2. Naval, Military and Air Forces Etc. (Disablement and Death) Service Pensions

Amendment Order 1999, laid under the Social Security (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act1977; (294)

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Equal Opportunities Commission Account, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Sex DiscriminationAct 1975;

4. Account for 1997–98 of the Welsh National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and HealthVisiting, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid underthe Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997;

5. Tenth Report on the Development of Services for People with Learning Disabilities(Mental Handicap) or Mental Illness in England, laid under the Disabled Persons(Services, Consultation and Representation) Act 1986;

6. Local Enforcing Authorities Air Pollution Fees and Charges Scheme (England andWales) 1999, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990.

Public Business

15. House of Lords Reform—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that this House takenote of Her Majesty’s Government’s White Paper Modernising Parliament: Reforming theHouse of Lords (Cm 4183); then it was moved by the Lord Strathclyde, as an amendmentthereto, at end to insert (“; urges Her Majesty’s Government in carrying forward the proposalsin the White Paper to set as its objectives an increase in the independence of Parliament andan enhancement of its ability to scrutinise legislation and hold the executive to account; andtherefore specifically calls on the Royal Commission to reject the proposition in paragraph7.26 of the White Paper that the available powers of this House might be significantlyreduced.”); and a debate having arisen, further debate was adjourned till tomorrow.

The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.

Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.

Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.De La Warr, E.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.

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Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fortescue, E.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Hemingford, L.

Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.

Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlborough, D.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.

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Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Polwarth, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rayleigh, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

1. Lord Imbert—Sir Peter Michael Imbert, Knight, having been created Baron Imbert, of NewRomney in the County of Kent, for life by Letters Patent dated 10th February 1999 (seeappendix), was introduced between the Lord Harris of Greenwich and the Lord Bramall, theGentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took andsubscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Ripon, Bp.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. Germans, E.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.StaVord, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathalmond, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Willoughby de Eresby, B.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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2. Oath—John Gerald Lord Rayleigh took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

3. Askin and others (Petitioners) v. ABSA Bank Limited (Respondents) and others—The petitionof Julian Michael Cuming Askin, Amesby Limited and Cormon Investments Inc. praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

Papers

4. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 16th February, waswithdrawn on 23rd February:Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating) Consequential Amendment Regulations

1999— (361)(ii) Statutory Maternity Pay (Compensation of Employers) Amendment Regulations

1999— (363)laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;

2. Public Lending Right Scheme 1982 (Commencement of Variations) Order 1999, laidunder the Public Lending Right Act 1979. (420)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Volume 2 of the Report for 1997–98 of the Countryside Council for Wales: Digest ofStatistics, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990;

2. Civil List Pensions, laid under the Civil List Act 1972;

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the National Lottery Distribution Fund, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act1993;

4. Draft Code of Practice, laid under the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act1996.

7. Registration of Interests—The Register of Lords’ Interests, prepared by the Clerk of theParliaments pursuant to the Resolution of 7th November 1995, was ordered to lie on the Tableand to be printed. (HL Paper 31)

Select Committee Report

8. Statutory Instruments—The 10th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999;

Draft National Minimum Wage Act 1998 (Amendment) Regulations 1999;

Draft Scottish Parliament (Disqualification) Order 1999;

Draft Scottish Parliament (First Ordinary General Election and First Meeting) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 30)

Public Business

9. House of Lords Reform—The debate was resumed on the motion of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington that this House take note of Her Majesty’s Government’s White PaperModernising Parliament: Reforming the House of Lords (Cm 4183), to which an amendmenthad been moved at end to insert “; urges Her Majesty’s Government in carrying forward theproposals in the White Paper to set as its objectives an increase in the independence ofParliament and an enhancement of its ability to scrutinise legislation and hold the executiveto account; and therefore specifically calls on the Royal Commission to reject the propositionin paragraph 7.26 of the White Paper that the available powers of this House might besignificantly reduced.”; after further debate, the amendment was agreed to (see division list);then, on question, tellers for the not-contents not having been appointed, the original motionas amended was agreed to pursuant to Standing Order 51.

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10. Financial Services and Markets—A message was brought from the Commons that they have cometo the following resolution to which they desire the concurrence of this House: That it isexpedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to report on theconsultative document on the draft financial services and markets bill presented by HerMajesty’s Command on 21st December 1998 and any further draft of the bill which may belaid upon the Table of both Houses by a Minister of the Crown and to report by 30th April1999.

The House was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes before one o’clockin the morning of Wednesday 24th February till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISION

HOUSE OF LORDS REFORMIt was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington, that this House take note of Her Majesty’sGovernment’s White Paper Modernising Parliament: Reforming the House of Lords (Cm 4183); then itwas moved by the Lord Strathclyde, as an amendment thereto, at the end to insert (“; urges HerMajesty’s Government in carrying forward the proposals in the White Paper to set as its objectives anincrease in the independence of Parliament and an enhancement of its ability to scrutinise legislationand hold the executive to account; and therefore specifically calls on the Royal Commission to rejectthe proposition in paragraph 7.26 of the White Paper that the available powers of this House might besignificantly reduced.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Housedivided:

Contents … … … … … … 193

Not-Contents … … … … … 2

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Boston, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chilver, L.Clanwilliam, E.

CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clitheroe, L.Cobbold, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dacre, B.Dartmouth, E.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Derwent, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Exmouth, V.Falmouth, V.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fortescue, E.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.

Gladwyn, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goschen, V.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Iddesleigh, E.Inglewood, L.Iveagh, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jopling, L.Kenyon, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.

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Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Macleod of Borve, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mills, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Newall, L.Norrie, L.Norton, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Campbell of Alloway, L. [Teller]Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. [Teller]

APPENDIX

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir PeterMichael Imbert Knight to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Imbert of NewRomney in Our County of KentAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Imbert to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterthe tenth day of February in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

Norton of Louth, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Romney, E.St. Davids, V.St. Germans, E.St. John of Fawsley, L.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shrewsbury, E.Skelmersdale, L.Somerset, D.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.StaVord, L.Stewartby, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Waddington, L.Warnock, B.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wilcox, B.Willoughby de Broke, L.Willoughby de Eresby, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.

Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.

Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Beswick, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.

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Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.

Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.London, Bp.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.

Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Peel, E.Pembroke and Montgomery, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

1. Oath—Henry George Charles Alexander Earl of Pembroke and Montgomery took and subscribedthe oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Hussain and another (Petitioners) v. Lancaster City Council (Respondents)—The petition ofMalazam Hussain and Linda Livingstone praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Dingley (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police (Respondent) (Scotland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home OYce (Respondent) ex parte Rajaratnam (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that all further proceedings in the appealmay be stayed until one month after the Immigration and Asylum Bill has received RoyalAssent or until the beginning of the next session of Parliament whichever is the sooner (theagent for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Monopolies and Mergers Commission—Underwriting services for share oVers: Report

on the supply in the UK of underwriting services for share oVers; (4168)2. European Communities—Partnership and Cooperation Agreement establishing a

partnership between the European Communities and their Member States andTurkmenistan; (4189)

3. Double Taxation—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Malaysia for theAvoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with respect toTaxes on Income; (4274)

4. Stephen Lawrence Inquiry—(i) Report— (4262-I)(ii) Appendices. (4262-II)

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Railways (Rateable Values) (Amendment) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations

1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (371)2. (i) Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Quota Measures) Order 1999— (424)

(ii) Third Country Fishing (Enforcement) Order 1999— (425)laid under the Fisheries Act 1981.

Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakefield, Bp.

Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report and Accounts for 1998 of the North Hull Housing Action Trust, laid under theHousing Act 1988.

Public Business

9. Obscenity Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the law relating to obscenity was presented by the Earl ofHalsbury, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 25)

10. Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl]—A bill to regulate the use of certain genetically modifiedorganisms for agricultural purposes was presented by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, read afirst time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 26)

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington, that the debates on the motions in the names of the Lord Mayhew of Twysdenand the Lord Trefgarne set down for today shall each be limited to 3 hours; the motion wasagreed to.

12. Deputy Chairmen of Committees—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the LordMethuen be added to the Panel of Lords appointed to act as Deputy Chairmen of Committeesfor this Session, and that the Lord Henley be appointed to the Panel in the place of the LordStrathclyde; the motion was agreed to.

13. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn thatthe amendments for the Report Stage be marshalled and considered in the following order:

Clauses 1 to 13 Clauses 48 to 62Schedule 1 Schedules 3 to 5Clauses 14 to 47 Clause 63;Schedule 2

the motion was agreed to.

14. Belfast Agreement (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Mayhew of Twysden that there belaid before the House papers relating to the value of the Belfast Agreement 1998 (the GoodFriday Agreement), and to the dangers inherent in failing to secure from all its participantsthe prompt and complete implementation of all its provisions; after debate, the motion was(by leave of the House) withdrawn.

15. Armed Forces (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Trefgarne that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the problems of current deployment and overstretch in Her Majesty’sArmed Forces and the implications of potential deployments to Kosovo; after debate, themotion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

16. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Bill [hl]—The bill was returned fromthe Commons agreed to with a privilege amendment; the amendment was considered andagreed to.

17. Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sentto the Commons.

18. Deregulation (Pipe-lines) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that thedraft Order laid before the House on 30th November 1998 be approved; the motion wasagreed to.

19. Deregulation (Weights and Measures) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 14th December 1998 be approved; themotion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at two minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.

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Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.

Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manchester, D.Manchester, Bp.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.

Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Patten, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

1. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Act:Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Act c. 2

Judicial Business

2. Roberts (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Winbow (Petitioner)—The respondent’s legal aid certificatewas lodged.

Papers

3. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 22nd February, waswithdrawn:Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999.

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Monopolies and Mergers Commission—IMS Health Inc and Pharmaceutical Marketing

Services Inc: report on the merger situation; (4261)2. Elections—Return of the expenses of each candidate at the May 1997 general election;

(—)3. Finance—Public Income and Expenditure for 1997–98 for Northern Ireland. (4255)

5. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 1) Order 1999;2. Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999;3. Draft International Mobile Satellite Organisation (Immunities and Privileges) Order

1999.

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Local Elections (Parishes and Communities) (Amendment) Rules 1999— (395)

(ii) Local Elections (Principal Areas) (Amendment) Rules 1999— (394)laid under the Representation of the People Act 1983;

2. Motor Cars (Driving Instruction) (Admission of Community Licence Holders)Regulations 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988; (357)

3. Electricity (Non-Fossil Fuel Sources) (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the ElectricityAct 1989. (439)

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.

Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Home Grown Sugar Beet (Research and Education) Fund,

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the FoodAct 1984;

2. Report of the Scottish Law Commission on unjustified enrichment, error of law andpublic authority receipts and disbursements, laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965;

3. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed tobe raised by the following NHS Trusts:(i) Community Health Care Services (North Derbyshire)—(ii) Southampton Community Health Services—(iii) Rotherham General Hospitals—(iv) Pilgrim Health—(v) Leicester General Hospital—(vi) Central Nottinghamshire Healthcare—(vii) Glenfield Hospital—

laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;4. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Wallace Collection, together with the Report of the

Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;5. Treasury Minute dated 25th February 1999 on the application of certain receipts as

appropriations in aid of the votes specified in the Spring supplementary estimates for1998–99, laid under the Public Accounts and Charges Act 1891.

Private Business

8. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [hl]—The Examiner’s certificate that the further StandingOrders had been complied with was ordered to lie on the Table and the bill was committed toan Unopposed Bill Committee.

Public Business

9. Rating (Valuation) Bill—A bill to make provision about valuation for purposes of non-domesticrates in England and Wales was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered tobe printed. (HL Bill 27)

10. Rating (Valuation) Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 27–EN)

11. Financial Services and Markets—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jayof Paddington, that this House do concur with the Commons in their message of 23rdFebruary, that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointedto report on the consultative document on the draft financial services and markets billpresented by Her Majesty’s Command on 21st December 1998 and any further draft of thebill which may be laid upon the Table of both Houses by a Minister of the Crown and to reportby 30th April 1999; the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to theCommons to acquaint them therewith.

12. Health Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an amendment wasdisagreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed after amendment 70.

The House was adjourned at midnightto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONHEALTH BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Earl Howe, in Clause 1, page 1, line 10, at end to insert (“from 31st March 2000”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 72

Not-Contents … … … … … 137

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Berners, B.

Bethell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.

Broadbridge, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.

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Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chadlington, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Davidson, V.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dundee, E.Elles, B.Erne, E.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glanusk, L.Haddington, E.Harding of Petherton, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alderdice, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Ampthill, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Watford, L.

Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Howe, E.Hylton-Foster, B.Kinnoull, E.Lang of Monkton, L.Leigh, L.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mancroft, L.Merrivale, L.Milverton, L.Monson, L.Morris, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.

Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Goudie, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, (Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Laming, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Longford, E.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Methuen, L.

Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Rowallan, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Wallace of Coslany, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barber of Tewkesbury, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brigstocke, B.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.

Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.

Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hemingford, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.

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Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.

Mersey, V.Meston, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plumb, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.

Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Papers

1. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Marine Environment—Agreement relating to the Commission established by the

Convention for the Protection of the Marine Environment in the North-East Atlantic1992; (26th February) (4277)

2. Long Term Care—Report of the Royal Commission on Long Term Care: With Respectto Old Age— (1st March)(i) Report— (4192-I)(ii) Research Volume 1— (4192-II/1)(iii) Research Volume 2— (4192-II/2)(iv) Research Volume 3; (4192-II/3)

3. Law Commissions—Report of the Law Commission and the Scottish Law Commissionon Statute Law Revision: Report on the Chronological Table of Private and PersonalActs. (1st March) (4263)

2. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 26th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (England) Regulations 1998

(Amendment No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1996; (447)2. (i) Teachers’ Superannuation (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999— (446)

(ii) National Health Service (Scotland) (Injury Benefits) Amendment Regulations1999— (444)

(iii) National Health Service Superannuation Scheme (Scotland) AmendmentRegulations 1999— (443)laid under the Superannuation Act 1972;

3. St. Andrew’s College of Education (Closure) (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under theFurther and Higher Education (Scotland) Act 1992; (442)

4. Environmental Protection Act 1990 (Extension of Section 140) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Environmental Protection Act 1990. (396)

3. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Prior Rights of Surviving Spouse (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Succession (Scotland)Act 1964. (445)

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport re-appointing David

Quarmby as Chairman of the Board of the British Tourist Authority for 3 years beginningon 1st June, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;

2. Review of the Registrar General on marriages, divorces and adoptions in England andWales, 1996, laid under the Registration Service Act 1953;

3. Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed tobe raised by the Isle of Wight Healthcare NHS Trust, laid under the National HealthService and Community Care Act 1990;

4. Report for 1997–98 of the Rail Users’ Consultative Committee for Wales, laid under theRailways Act 1993.

Select Committee Reports

5. Committee of Selection—The 2nd Report from the Committee was made; it was ordered that theReport be printed. (HL Paper 32)

6. Procedure of the House—The First Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix);it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 33)

Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.

Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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7. Procedure in the Chamber—It was ordered that the Report from the Group appointed by theLeader of the House on Procedure in the Chamber be printed. (HL Paper 34)

Public Business

8. Financial Services and Markets—A message was brought from the Commons that they haveordered:That a Select Committee of eight Members be appointed to joint with a committee to beappointed by the Lords, to be the Joint Committee on Financial Services and Markets, toreport on the consultative document on the draft Financial Services and Markets Billpresented by Her Majesty’s Command on 21st December 1998 and any further draft of theBill which may be laid upon the Table of both Houses by a Minister of the Crown;That three be the quorum of the Committee;That the Committee shall have power—

(i) to send for persons, papers and records;(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;(iii) to report from time to time;(iv) to appoint specialist advisers;(v) to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;(vi) to communicate to any Select Committee appointed by either House its evidence and

any documents of common interest;That the Committee shall report by 30th April 1999.

9. Health Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed for astatement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments weremoved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

10. Judicial appointments—The Lord Patten asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps they intendto take to ensure greater openness in the appointment of the judiciary, particularly in the lightof recent legislation increasing the constitutional role of the judiciary; after debate, thequestion was answered by the Lord Chancellor.

11. Health Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (seedivision lists 1 and 2); the House was resumed after clause 46 stood part.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past two o’clockin the morning of Tuesday 2nd March till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Baroness Sharp of Guildford, in Clause 28, page 21, line 41, after (“State”) to insert(“for Trade and Industry”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and theCommittee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 8

Not-Contents … … … … … 28

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Clement-Jones, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ahmed, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Carter, L. [Teller]

Henley, L. [Teller]Howe, E.McNair, L.

Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.

Mar and Kellie, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.

Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.

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Division No. 2

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Drumadoon, in Clause 39, page 31, line 3, after (“trust”) to insert(“, at least two of whom shall be a registered medical practitioner and a registered nurse or midwife,”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 2

Not-Contents … … … … … 29

CONTENTS

Henley, L. [Teller]Mackay of Drumadoon, L. [Teller]

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clement-Jones, L.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.

APPENDIXFIRST REPORT FROM THE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON PROCEDURE OF THE HOUSEMONDAY 1 MARCH 1999

By the Select Committee on Procedure of the House

Ordered to Report:1. Report of the Group on Procedure in The Chamber

At its last meeting the Procedure Committee agreed to a recommendation by the Leader of the House thata Working Group should be established “to consider how the procedures of the House can be improvedwithin the existing framework of self-regulation; and to make proposals for ensuring that Lords are betterinformed of procedure so that self-regulation can work”.1 The Committee has considered the Group’s report2and recommends the House to accept the following proposals for change in the House’s present procedures:

Starred QuestionsA second topical question each week should be created by reserving the fourth question on Wednesdays,

for tabling no earlier than the previous Monday. The second topical question should be subject to the samerules as the existing topical question, in particular the rule that no Lord may ask more than two topicalquestions in one session.3

Lords should be limited to one Starred Question (instead of the present two) on the order paper at any onetime, unless they are successful in the ballot for topical questions.

The Committee endorses the following additional guidance recommended by the Working Group:(a) Ministers’ answers should be shorter. Their initial answer should not generally exceed 75 words.

Supplementary questions and answers should also be shorter and confined to not more than two points.(b) The problem of how supplementary questions should circulate around the diVerent parts of the House

cannot be resolved by a rigid rule. The Government side should not expect to have every alternatesupplementary. In giving guidance, the Leader should be mindful of the interests of all backbenchers,including the Liberal Democrats and the Crossbenchers.

(c) If two or more Lords rise at once, they should be more ready to give way immediately, rather thanprovoke a shouting-match, which is undignified and wastes time. If the Leader rises, other Lords shouldsit down at once.

1 4th Report (1997-98), HL Paper 144.2 The report is printed as HL Paper (1998-99) 34.3 See Companion to the Standing Orders, p 86.

McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Monkswell, L.Palmer, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hayman, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.

Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Walton of Detchant, L.

Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mar and Kellie, E.Monkswell, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.

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The Committee reminds the House that the Lord who tabled the question has no automatic right to ask afinal supplementary question.4

Business immediately after Starred Questions

The Committee is concerned at how much noise is created when Lords leave the Chamber after StarredQuestions. Lords should do so silently; those remaining in the Chamber should avoid conversations at thispoint. It is in order for the Lord moving the next business to pause for a short period until the House is quietagain. The Clerk should not start the clock until he begins to speak.

Drafting of amendments

In appropriate cases amendments should take the form: Page x, line y, leave out paragraph (b), and notPage x, leave out lines 1 to 3.

Grouping of amendments

For an experimental period until the summer recess, government departments should produce draftgroupings of amendments for consultation by 2.30 p.m. on the working day, before debate (rather than atlunchtime on the day, as at present). To enable departments to do this, marshalled lists of amendments shouldbe published on the working day before the debate (rather than on the day of debate, as is normal at present).Lords should be encouraged to facilitate this by tabling amendments no later than 5 p.m. two days beforethe debate, whenever possible. Amendments handed in later than this will be published in a revised marshalledlist or in supplementary list. The experiment should be confined to committee stage.

Tabling of amendments

Outside recesses, the deadline for handing in amendments for printing the next day should be 5 p.m. (4 p.m.on Fridays) instead of 6.30 p.m. (5.30 p.m. for a marshalled list, 4 p.m. on Fridays) as at present. Duringrecesses the deadlines will remain unchanged (10 a.m. to 5 p.m.).

Repeat amendments

An amendment identical (or of identical eVect) to one pushed to a vote by the mover and defeated incommittee should not be retabled for report stage. The amendment should be changed more thancosmetically if it is to be retabled. However, it would not be desirable to restrict the reopening at report stageof an issue debated and voted on in committee.

An amendment agreed to on division in committee should not be reversed at report stage except with theunanimous agreement of the House.

Divisions

The time for divisions should be extended from six to eight minutes; the time for appointing Tellers wouldin consequence be extended from three to four minutes.

“Bill do now pass”

The motion “That this bill do now pass” should be moved formally and should not normally be debated.Ministers should if necessary respond to points raised on the motion by other Lords. The motion should notbe an occasion for thanking those involved in the passage of the bill.

Statements

The Committee does not accept that the number of statements repeated in this House is unreasonable. Theyare important policy announcements. While there will be exceptions, the time for the two Opposition frontbenches and the reply to them should be limited to 20 minutes, as for the backbenches.5 Backbenchers tooshould exercise restraint, restricting themselves to brief comments and questions rather than speeches, so asto allow more Lords to intervene within the 20 minutes available.

The time when a statement is to be taken (for example, “after amendment 20” or “after the first debate”),once agreed between the whips, should be put on the annunciator. A Lord who was not present to hear astatement should not speak on it. The practice of noting unrepeated statements on the cover of Hansardshould be revived.

Courtesies

The Committee endorses the following reminders of the courtesies of the House:

(a) Lords should bow to the Cloth of Estate on entering the Chamber, through not on leaving.6 Lordsshould also bow when the Mace passes.

(b) A Lord who is taking part in a debate is expected to attend the greater part of that debate. It isconsidered discourteous for him not to be present for the opening speeches, for at least the speechbefore and that following his own, and for the winding-up speeches. Ministers cannot be expected toanswer, orally or in writing, points made by a speaker who does not stay to hear the Minister’s closingspeech. A Lord who becomes aware in advance that he is unlikely to be able to stay until the end of adebate should normally remove his name from the list of speakers.

4 Companion, p 85.5 As recommended in the Procedure Committee’s first report 1994-95, agreed to by the House on 10 January 1995.6 Standing Order 17(2).

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(c) Reading of speeches is alien to the custom of the House. In practice, some speakers may wish to have“extended notes” from which to speak, but it is not in the interests of good debate that they shouldfollow them too closely.

(d) Lords should never address one another in debate as “you”.(e) Lords should refer to “the noble Lords, the Minister”, or simply “the Minister”, but not “the noble

Minster”.(f) The Lord who follows a maiden speaker (and only that Lord) should congratulate him on behalf of the

whole House. Other Lords should not leave the Chamber while this takes place.(g) Lords should not pass between the Lord who is speaking and the Lord on the Woolsack or in the

Chair.7

(h) Lords should not move about the Chamber while a Question is being put from the Woolsack or theChair. This does not apply when the Lord Chancellor is speaking as a Minister from beside theWoolsack.

(i) Lords should not bring books or newspapers into the Chamber, except for reference in debate.8

The Committee reminds the House that private conversations in the Chamber are not desirable.

TrainingThe Committee agreed that the Working Group’s proposals for training (paragraphs 71-78) should be

considered further. The Clerk of the Parliaments informed the Committee that he proposed to begin arevision of the Companion to the Standing Orders for issue by the beginning of the next session.

The Committee expressed its gratitude to Lady Hilton of Eggardon and the members of the WorkingGroup for their work on procedure in the Chamber.

2. The General Debate Day

The Committee considered a proposal from the Government Chief Whip that, as an experiment from thereturn of the House after the Easter recess, the general debate day should be moved from Wednesdays toThursdays. The experiment would last until such time as government business filled the debate day, probablymid-June 1999. The Committee noted that there was strong opposition to the proposal. If such a change wereto be made on an experimental basis, the Committee recommends that the House should meet at 3 p.m. onWednesdays and 2.30 p.m. on Thursdays.9 However, in the absence of agreement on the Chief Whip’sproposal, the Committee makes no recommendation on the proposal or on sitting times. The issue should beleft to the House to decide.

7 Standing Order 17(1).8 Companion, p 64.9 The Committee was led to understand that this would be because party meetings would be held on Wednesdays.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.

Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barber of Tewkesbury, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.

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Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brigstocke, B.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Cairns, E.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Crook, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.

Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dowding, L.Dundonald, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.

Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemingford, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.

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Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.

Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.

Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Head and others (A.P.) (Appellants) (formerly Docker and others (A.P.) (Appellants)) v. ChiefConstable of the West Midlands Police (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of Albert Head,William Rea Lamont, Steven Rhodes and John Clark was presented and it was ordered thatin accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on orbefore 13th April next.

2. Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Appellants) (England)—Theappeal of Times Newspapers Limited, Alan Ruddock and John Witherow was presented andit was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix theretobe lodged on or before 13th April next.

3. MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware as Trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust) (Petitioners) v. Bishopsgate InvestmentTrust plc and others (Respondents)—The petition of MCC Proceeds Inc praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 7th January).

4. Passmore (Petitioner) v. Morland plc and others (Respondents)—The petition of David JohnPassmore praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Appellants) (England)—Itwas ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usualsecurity for costs as required by Standing Order.

Papers

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Industrial Injuries—Report by the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council in accordance withSection 171 of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 reviewing the prescription ofdiseases induced by ionising and non-ionising radiation. (4280)

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Family Proceedings (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the Family

Law (Northern Ireland) Order 1993; (—)2. (i) Education (Budget Statements and Supplementary Provisions) Regulations 1999—

(486)(ii) Education (Budget Statements) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (451)

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;3. (i) Education (Amount to Follow Permanently Excluded Pupil) Regulations 1999—

(495)(ii) Education (Grant-maintained Schools) (Capital Grants) (Wales) Regulations

1999— (440)laid under the Education Act 1996;

4. Scottish Local Elections Amendment (No. 2) Rules 1999, laid under the Representationof the People Act 1983. (492)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. (i) Accounts for 1997–98 of the Council for the Central Laboratory of the Research

Councils, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—(ii) Report for 1997–98 of the Council for the Central Laboratory of the Research

Councils—laid under the Science and Technology Act 1965;

2. Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pensions Increase) Order 1999, laid under theNaval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865.

Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.

Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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9. Statutory Instruments—The 11th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Functions) Order 1999;Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999;Draft National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999;Draft Civil Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;Draft Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999;Draft Northern Ireland (Modification of Enactments – No. 1) Order 1999;Draft Social Security (New Deal Pilot) Amendment Regulations 1999;Draft Railways (Rateable Values) (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 1) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 35)

10. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made andordered to be printed:Future Financing of the EU: who pays and how? (6th Report—HL Paper 36)Schengen and the United Kingdom’s Border Controls. (7th Report—HL Paper 37)

Public Business

11. Financial Services and Markets—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that theCommons message of yesterday be now considered and that a Select Committee of eight Lordsbe appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons, as the Joint Committeeon Financial Services and Markets, to report on the consultative document on the draftfinancial services and markets bill presented by Her Majesty’s Command on 21st December1998 and any further draft of the bill which may be laid upon the Table of both Houses by aMinister of the Crown;That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Burns L. Montague of OxfordL. Eatwell L. PooleL. Fraser of Carmyllie L. TaverneL. Haskel V. Trenchard;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of aChairman;That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if theCommittee think fit, be printed and delivered out;That the Committee shall report by 30th April 1999;and that the Committee do meet with the Committee appointed by the Commons this day athalf past four o’clock in Committee Room 3A;the motion was agreed to and a message was ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaintthem therewith.

12. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments wereagreed to; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 30)

13. Sexual OVences (Amendment) Bill—A bill to reduce the age at which, and to make provision withrespect to the circumstances in which, certain sexual acts are lawful; to make it an oVence fora person aged 18 or over to engage in sexual activity with or directed towards a person underthat age if he is in a position of trust in relation to that person; and for connected purposeswas brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 28)

14. Sexual OVences (Amendment) Bill——It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to thebill be printed. (HL Bill 28–EN)

15. Scottish Enterprise Bill—A bill to make provision with respect to the financial limits in section25(2) of the Enterprise and New Towns (Scotland) Act 1990 was brought from the Commons,read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 29)

16. Scottish Enterprise Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 29–EN)

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17. Financial Services and Markets—A message was brought from the Commons that they haveordered:That the Committee appointed by them to join with a Committee of Your Lordships onFinancial Services and Markets, do meet the Committee appointed by Your Lordships inCommittee Room 3A this day at half-past four o’clock, as Your Lordships have proposed.

18. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; it was ordered that the bill beprinted as amended. (HL Bill 31)

19. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were movedand (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment wasdisagreed to (see division list); further consideration on report was adjourned.

20. National Minimum Wage Act 1998 (Amendment) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the LordSainsbury of Turville that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 16th February beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

21. National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sainsbury of Turville thatthe draft Regulations laid before the House on 16th February be approved; the motion wasagreed to.

22. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration onreport was adjourned after amendment 55.

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Viscount Astor, in Clause 20, page 15, line 44, at end to insert:

(“( ) In particular, the court must state in open court its reasons for any special measures directionwhich restricts the ability of representation of the news media to observe fully all the proceedings of thecourt.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 80

Not-Contents … … … … … 105

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor, V.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belstead, L.Bridgeman, V. [Teller]Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cranborne, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Falkland, V.Fookes, B.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grey, E.Grimston of Westbury, L.Haddington, E.Hampton, L.

Hamwee, B.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Hooson, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Northesk, E.Palmer, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prior, L.Rankeillour, L.Razzall, L.Renton, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Seccombe, B.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stewartby, L.Swinfen, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Tope, L.Trumpington, B.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Weir, V.Williams of Crosby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B. [Teller]Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Colville of Culross, V.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gallacher, L.Gilbert, L.Glenamara, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Arran, E.

Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kirkhill, L.Levy, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.

Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackwell, L.

Nicol, B.Orme, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.

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Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.

Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dowding, L.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.

Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.

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McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Manchester, D.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Ogmore, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

1. Baroness O’Neill of Bengarve—Miss Onora Sylvia O’Neill CBE, having been created BaronessO’Neill of Bengarve, of The Braid in the County of Antrim, for life by Letters Patent dated25th February 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness David and theLord Flowers, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding;and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Sterling of Plaistow, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.

Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. Lord Patel—Sir Narendra Babubhai Patel, Knight, having been created Baron Patel, of Dunkeldin Perth and Kinross, for life by Letters Patent dated 1st March 1999 (see appendix 2), wasintroduced between the Lord Fraser of Carmyllie and the Baroness Hayman, the GentlemanUsher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

3. Holland (Appellant) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of CarolsueHolland was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 14th April next.

4. Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’s BenefitsPlan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, The Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-CanadianMaster Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) and others(Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Appellants) and others(England)—The appeal of Marco Gambazzi, Coeval Co Inc, Trustfina Anstalt, Mora HotelCorporation NV, Bogrin Financiera SA and Geam SA was presented and it was ordered thatin accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on orbefore 14th April next.

5. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 16th Report:Owners of the Ship or Vessel ‘Herceg Novi’ (Petitioners) v. Owners and/or demise charterersof the Ship or Vessel ‘Ming Galaxy’ (Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.Regina v. Immigration Appellate Authority (Respondents) ex parte Secretary of State for theHome Department (Respondent) and Cakabay (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That the petition bereferred for hearing.Inco Europe Limited and others (Petitioners) v. First Choice Distribution (a firm) and others(Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Treaty Series—Index to Treaty Series 1998; (4238)2. Marine Environment—Convention for the Protection of the Marine Environment of the

North-East Atlantic; (4278)3. Double Taxation—Protocol between the United Kingdom and Kazakhstan amending

the Convention for the Avoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of FiscalEvasion with respect to Taxes on Income and Capital Gains; (4271)

4. Next Steps Agencies—Next Steps Report for 1998. (4273)

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (Application to Summary

Proceedings) Order 1999;2. Draft Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 1999;3. Draft Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Amendment) Order 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Superannuation (Application of the Superannuation Act 1972, Section 1) Order 1999,

laid under the Superannuation Act 1972; (519)2. Common Agricultural Policy (Wine) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

European Communities Act 1972; (482)3. Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (No. 1) Order 1999, laid under

the Local Authorities (Goods and Services) Act 1970; (421)4. Criminal Legal Aid (Fixed Payments) (Scotland) Regulations 1999, laid under the Legal

Aid (Scotland) Act 1986; (491)5. Removal and Disposal of Vehicles (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984; (490)6. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (Hampshire and Isle of Wight) Amalgamation Order

1999, laid under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997; (523)7. Children (Allocation of Proceedings) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Children

Act 1989; (524)8. Competition Act 1998 (Competition Commission) Transitional, Consequential and

Supplemental Provisions Order 1999, laid under the Competition Act 1998. (506)

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9. Weights and Measures (Prescribed Stamp) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Weights and Measures Act 1985. (504)

9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report for 1997–98 of the British Library, laid under the British Library Act 1972.

Select Committee Report

10. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:8th Report, on the following bills:

Water Industry Bill;Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [hl];Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl];Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl];Easter Act 1928 (Commencement) Bill [hl];Obscenity Bill [hl];Rating (Valuation) Bill. (HL Paper 38)

Public Business

11. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Bragg set down for today shall be limited to 3° hours andthat in the name of the Lord Kennet set down for the same day to 1° hours; the motion wasagreed to.

12. Public service broadcasting (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Bragg that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the future of public service broadcasting in the UnitedKingdom; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

13. NATO (1°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Kennet that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the role of NATO in international peace and security, with particularreference to the new Strategic Concept and to crisis management; after debate, the motion was(by leave of the House) withdrawn.

14. Scottish Parliament (Disqualification) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel, on behalf ofthe Lord Macdonald of Tradeston, that the draft Order laid before the House on 16thFebruary be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

15. Scottish Parliament (First Ordinary General Election and First Meeting) Order 1999—It wasmoved by the Lord Sewel, on behalf of the Lord Macdonald of Tradeston, that the draft Orderlaid before the House on 16th February be approved; the motion was agreed to.

16. Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel, on behalf of theLord Macdonald of Tradeston, that the draft Order laid before the House on 25th Februarybe approved; the motion was agreed to.

17. National Assembly for Wales (Disqualification) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntoshof Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 10th February be approved; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

18. National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 1999—It was moved by theLord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 22nd February beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

19. National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Functions) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordMcIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 16th February beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

20. Cervical cancer—The Lord Clement-Jones asked Her Majesty’s Government what progress theDepartment of Health’s Cervical Cancer Screening Programme is making in implementing theproposals in its 1998 Review, in response to the criticisms contained in the December 1998Report of the House of Commons’ Public Accounts Committee, and in response to the recentlegal cases brought against the NHS; after debate, the question was answered by the LordHunt of Kings Heath.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Miss OnoraSylvia O’Neill Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree styledignity title and honour of Baroness O’Neill of Bengarve of The Braid in Our County of AntrimAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baroness O’Neill of Bengarve to have and to hold unto her for her lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the twenty-fifth day of February in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir NarendraBabubhai Patel Knight to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Patel of Dunkeld inPerth and KinrossAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Patel to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterthe first day of March in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.

Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

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Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.

Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dowding, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.

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Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.

Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parry, L.Patel, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.

Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) v. Jones and another (A.P.) (Appellants) (Onappeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The Report from theAppellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed;that the Order of the Divisional Court of 23rd January 1997 be set aside and that the Orderof the Salisbury Crown Court of 4th January 1996 be restored; and that the costs in this Houseof the first appellant, Miss Jones, be paid out of central funds in accordance with section 16of the Prosecution of OVences Act 1985, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments.

2. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal) (England)—The appeal of MartinEdward John White was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th April next.

3. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal) (England)—The appeal of PamelaRosemary White was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th April next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

4. Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 3rd March, waswithdrawn:Draft Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (Application to Summary Proceedings)Order 1999.

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Compensation—Report for 1997–98 of the Foreign Compensation Commission; (4275)2. Census—The 2001 Census of Population: Government proposals; (4253)3. Works of Art—Minute dated 4th March 1999 concerning the indemnification of works

of art lent to the British Council for exhibitions to be held in a number of overseaslocations during the first half of the financial year 1999–2000. (—)

6. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 1999;2. Draft Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Continuance) Order

1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Jobseeker’s Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Jobseekers Act

1995; (530)2. Lotteries (Gaming Board Fees) Order 1999, laid under the Lotteries and Amusements

Act 1976; (436)3. Education (School Organisation Plans) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under the School

Standards and Framework Act 1998; (499)4. Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 1999, laid under the Health and

Safety at Work etc. Act 1974; (437)5. Local Authorities (Capital Finance) (Rate of Discount for 1999/2000) Regulations 1999,

laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989; (453)6. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Havering London

Borough Council and Scarborough Borough Council) Order 1999, laid under the LocalGovernment Act 1988; (452)

7. National Health Service (Dental Charges) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under theNational Health Service Act 1977. (544)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Pensions Increase (Review) Order 1999, laid under the Social Security Pensions Act 1975;

(522)

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2. (i) Report—(ii) Accounts—

for 1998 of Tai Cymru, laid under the Housing Associations Act 1985;3. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by—(i) Winchester and Eastleigh Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Lloyds

Bank plc—(ii) Loddon Community National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank PLC—(iii) Oxford RadcliVe Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank PLC—(iv) Nottingham City Hospital National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank PLC—(v) Southampton University Hospitals National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank PLC—(vi) South Devon Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank PLC—(vii) Bassetlaw Hospital and Community Health Services National Health Service Trust

from Barclays Bank PLC—(viii) Doncaster Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank PLC—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Select Committee Report

9. Science and Technology—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee, Cannabis: GovernmentResponse, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 39)

Public Business

10. European Parliamentary Elections (Gibraltar) Bill [hl]—A bill to provide for electors in Gibraltarto vote in elections in the European Parliament was presented by the Lord Bethell, read a firsttime and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 32)

11. Health Bill [hl]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the billwas reported without amendment.

12. Water Industry Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be now read a second time;after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

13. Appropriation (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draftOrder laid before the House on 15th February be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

14. Water (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laidbefore the House on 22nd February be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

15. Strategic Planning (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draftOrder laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

16. Energy EYciency (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draftOrder laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

17. Trade Union Subscription Deductions (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordDubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; after debate,the motion was agreed to.

18. Northern Ireland (Modification of Enactments—No. 1) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordDubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 22nd February be approved; the motionwas agreed to.

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes past ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.

Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denham, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.

Elibank, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.

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Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McCluskey, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.

Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.

Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandhurst, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathmore and Kinghorne, E.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court and Allison (Respondent) ex parte Government of theUnited States of America (Appellants) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’sBench Division)—The appeal of the Government of the United States of America waspresented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.

2. Gribben (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland (Respondent)(Northern Ireland)—The petition of Ignatius Patrick Gribben praying for leave to appeal inaccordance with the Criminal Appeal (Northern Ireland) Act 1980 was presented and referredto an Appeal Committee (lodged 25th February).

Papers

3. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 5th March, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Waste Management Licences (Consultation and Compensation) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Environmental Protection Act 1990; (481)2. Common Investment (Amendment) Scheme 1999, laid under the Administration of

Justice Act 1982; (551)3. Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid

under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; (—)4. National Assistance (Sums for Personal Requirements) Regulations 1999, laid under the

National Assistance Act 1948; (549)5. Spreadable Fats (Marketing Standards) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Food Safety Act 1990. (540)

4. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Limit in Relation to Licences to Provide Radio Multiplex Services Order 1999;2. Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1999;3. Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2) Regulations 1999;4. Draft Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 1999;5. Draft Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (Application to Summary

Proceedings) Order 1999;6. Draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Northern Ireland) Order

1999;7. Draft Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Medicines for Human Use and Medical Devices (Fees and Miscellaneous Amendments)

Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (566)2. Local Authorities (Capital Finance) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Local Government and Housing Act 1989; (501)3. Crime and Disorder Strategies (Prescribed Descriptions) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid

under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998; (483)4. Crown Court (Miscellaneous Amendments) Rules 1999, laid under the Supreme Court

Act 1981; (598)5. Insurance (Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under the Insurance Companies Act 1982; (589)6. National Savings Bank (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the National Savings

Bank Act 1971; (588)7. National Health Service (Charges for Drugs and Appliances) (Scotland) Amendment

Regulations 1999, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; (612)

Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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8. Specified Risk Material (Inspection Charges) Regulations 1999, laid under the FoodSafety Act 1990. (539)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by—(i) East Yorkshire Hospitals Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(ii) North Durham Health Care National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(iii) Priority Healthcare Wearside National Health Service Trust from Midland Bank

plc—(iv) Northallerton Health Services National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank

plc—(v) Southern Derbyshire Acute Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Lloyds

Bank plc—(vi) Harrogate Health Service National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(vii) Dorset Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(viii) Poole Hospital National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(ix) East Yorkshire Community Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Lloyds

Bank plc—(x) Dewsbury Health Care National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(xi) Gateshead Health National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(xii) Leeds Community & Mental Health Services Teaching National Health Service

Trust from National Westminster Bank plc—(xiii) South Durham Health Care National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(xiv) Shropshire’s Community & Mental Health Services National Health Service Trust

from Barclays Bank plc—(xv) Community Health Services, South Derbyshire National Health Service Trust from

Lloyds Bank plc—(xvi) Pinderfields & Pontefract Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank

plc—(xvii) Whittington Hospital National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(xviii) East Gloucestershire National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank plc—(xix) Huddersfield Health Care Services National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;

2. Summarised Accounts for 1997–98 of Health Authorities, NHS Trusts in Wales, theWelsh Health Common Services Authority, the Health Promotion Authority for Walesand of funds held on Trust by Health Authorities, the Health Promotion Authority forWales and NHS Trusts for Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller andAuditor General, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;

3. Report for 1st April 1998 to 31st January 1999 of the Standing Advisory Commission onHuman Rights, laid under the Northern Ireland Constitution Act 1973;

4. Report for 1997–98 of the Welsh National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and HealthVisiting, laid under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1979.

Public Business

7. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn, on behalf of the BaronessJay of Paddington, that Standing Order 38(4) (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensedwith on Thursday next to enable the motion in the name of the Baroness Blatch to be takenimmediately after the Disability Rights Commission Bill; the motion was agreed to.

8. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed and returned to theCommons with an amendment.

9. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreedto; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); it was ordered that the bill beprinted as amended. (HL Bill 33)

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10. Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Bill— The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendmentagreed to.

11. World poverty: role of women—The Baroness Uddin asked Her Majesty’s Government whataction they have taken to strengthen the role of women in the elimination of world poverty;after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Amos.

The House was adjourned at a quarter-past nine o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford, to leave out Clause 40; which being objected to, thequestion was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 56

Not-Contents … … … … … 143

CONTENTS

Ackner, L. [Teller]Ailesbury, M.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.Bledisloe, V.Campbell of Alloway, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Craig of Radley, L.Davidson, V.Dearing, L.Denham, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Foley, L.Glanusk, L.Gray of Contin, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.

Harrowby, E.Holderness, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Kinloss, Ly.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Lyell, L.McNair, L.Mersey, V.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Ogmore, L.

Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.

Park of Monmouth, B.Pender, L.Renton, L.Rotherwick, L.Saatchi, L.Shannon, E.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Young, B.

Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.

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Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jeger, B.Kirkhill, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Ludford, B.McCarthy, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.

Division No. 2

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Cope of Berkeley, in Clause 43, page 31, line 42, at end to insert:

(“( ) Nothing in this section shall impose any restriction on the police or any prosecuting authorityfrom publishing information in the course of their duties, nor on the reporting of any suchpublication.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 48

Not-Contents … … … … … 132

CONTENTS

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Baker of Dorking, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Burnham, L. [Teller]Caithness, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chesham, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Crickhowell, L.Dean of Harptree, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.

Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.Orme, L.Patel, L.Peston, L.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.

Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Elton, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Geddes, L.Henley, L. [Teller]HolmPatrick, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mancroft, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.

Blease, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chandos, V.Christopher, L.

Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Strabolgi, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Tryon, L.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Northesk, E.O’Cathain, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Prior, L.Rawlings, B.Renton, L.Rotherwick, L.Seccombe, B.Skelmersdale, L.Stewartby, L.Wilcox, B.

Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.

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Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.

Die Martis 9) Martii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.

Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lawrence, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Ludford, B.McCarthy, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Orme, L.Patel, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.

Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.

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Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Clyde, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunrossil, V.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.

Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.

Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.JeVreys, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.

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Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Johnson (A.P.)(Petitioner)—The petition of Malcolm Keith Johnson praying for leave to appeal inaccordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Robertson of Oakridge, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandford, L.Sandhurst, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.

Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Patel (Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that all further proceedings in the appeal may be stayeduntil one month after the Immigration and Asylum Bill has received Royal Assent or until thebeginning of the next session of Parliament whichever is the sooner (the agent for therespondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Paper—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Financial Statement and Budget Report March 1999; (—)2. Social Security—Report by the Social Security Advisory Committee under section 174(1)

of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and statement of the Secretary of Statefor Social Security in accordance with section 174(2) of that Act on the Social Security(Contributions) Amendment Regulations 1999. (4281)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1 (i) Education (Education Standards Etc. Grants) (England) Regulations 1999— (606)(ii) Education (Post 16 Partnership Grant) (England) Regulations 1999— (605)(iii) Education (Transfer of Functions Concerning School Lunches) (England) Order

1999— (604)laid under the Education Act 1996;

2. (i) Teachers’ Pensions (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (607)(ii) Teachers (Compensation for Redundancy and Premature Retirement) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999— (608)laid under the Superannuation Act 1972;

3. Education (Fees at Higher Education Institutions) Regulations 1999, laid under theTeaching and Higher Education Act 1998; (603)

4. Education (School Inspection) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the SchoolInspections Act 1996; (601)

5. Education Act 1996 (Grant-Maintained Schools) (Grants to Governing Bodies inLiquidation) (Modification) Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998; (600)

6. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Kent)(Borough of Maidstone) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYcAct 1991; (639)

7. Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Road TraYc Act 1988; (617)

8. (i) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Midland Metro T69 Vehicles) Exemption Order 1999—(520)

(ii) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Midland Metro T69 Vehicles) Exemption (Amendment)Order 1999— (586)laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995;

9. Sugar Beet (Research and Education) Order 1999, laid under the Food Act 1984; (415)10. Local Authorities’ TraYc Orders (Procedure) (Scotland) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984; (614)11. Housing (Right to Buy) (Cost Floor) (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Housing

(Scotland) Act 1987; (611)12. Act of Sederunt (Fees of Shorthand Writers in the SheriV Court) (Amendment) 1999, laid

under the SheriV Courts (Scotland) Act 1907; (613)13. (i) Health Authorities (England) Establishment Order 1996 Amendment and the

Cambridgeshire and Norfolk Health Authorities (Establishment etc.) Order 1999—(616)

(ii) National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) Amendment Regulations1999— (609)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;

14. Social Security (Contributions) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the SocialSecurity Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (561)

Private Business

5. Imperial College Bill—The Report from Her Majesty’s Attorney General was presented.

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6. University College London Bill—The Report from Her Majesty’s Attorney General waspresented.

Public Business

7. Further and Higher Education (Scotland) (Amendment) Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the Furtherand Higher Education (Scotland) Act 1992 in respect of Scottish university fee arrangementsand grants for Scottish students attending higher education institutions in the UnitedKingdom was presented by the Lord Selkirk of Douglas, read a first time and ordered to beprinted. (HL Bill 34)

8. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn, on behalf of the BaronessJay of Paddington, that Standing Order 70 (AYrmative Instruments) be dispensed with toenable the motion to approve the draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies)(Northern Ireland) Order 1999 to be taken this day, notwithstanding that no report from theJoint Committee on Statutory Instruments on the draft Order has been laid before the House;the motion was agreed to.

9. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to; then thebill was passed and sent to the Commons.

10. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; anamendment was agreed to; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed andsent to the Commons.

11. Airline Competition (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Geddes that this House take noteof the Report of the European Communities Committee on Airline Competition (32ndReport, Session 1997–98, HL Paper 156); after debate, the motion was agreed to.

12. Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Elis-Thomasthat the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

13. Obscenity Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Earl of Halsbury that the bill be now read a second time;after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

14. North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It wasmoved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 8th March beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

15. Fair rent increases—The Earl of Lytton asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willreconsider their proposals to limit fair rent increases following the Rent Acts (Maximum FairRent) Order 1999 (S.I. 1999/6) so that, in addition to necessary protection for tenants, privatelandlords will be able to obtain a fair return on property subject to regulated rents; afterdebate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes before nine o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Mercurii 10) Martii 1999The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.

Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Bauer, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.

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Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.

Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dowding, L.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Holmpatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leicester, E.

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Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.

Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandhurst, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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1. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Act:Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Act c. 3

Judicial Business

2. Goodes (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants) (England)—The appeal ofEast Sussex County Council was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st April next.

3. Regina v. Smith (Respondent)—The petition of the Director of Public Prosecutions praying foran extension of time within which the appeal may be lodged in accordance with the CriminalAppeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Glasgow City Council and others (Respondents) v. Marshall and others (Appellants)(Scotland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

5. Goodes (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants) (England)—It was orderedthat the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security forcosts as required by Standing Order.

Papers

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Public Accounts—Treasury Minute on the First, Second and Third Reports from the Houseof Commons Committee of Public Accounts, Session 1998–99. (4285)

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft National Minimum Wage (OVshore Employment) Order 1999;2. Draft Social Security (Incapacity, Earnings and Work Trials) Pilot Schemes Regulations

1999;3. TraYc Areas (Reorganisation) (Wales) Order 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Government (Committees and Political Groups) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,

laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989; (500)2. OVshore Installations (Safety Zones) Order 1999, laid under the Petroleum Act 1987;

(547)3. Local Government (Discretionary Payments) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Superannuation Act 1972; (502)4. Local Government (Parishes and Parish Councils) Regulations 1999, laid under the Local

Government and Rating Act 1997; (545)5. (i) Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) (Amendment) Order 1999— (536)

(ii) Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—(534)

laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;6. Rates (Regional Rates) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the Northern Ireland

Act 1974; (—)7. Police Act 1996 (Commencement and Transitional Provisions) Order 1999, laid under the

Police Act 1996; (533)8. (i) Northumbria Health Care National Health Service Trust (Transfer of Trust

Property) Order 1999— (627)(ii) National Health Service (Functions of Health Authorities and Administration

Arrangements) Amendment Regulations 1999— (628)(iii) National Health Service (General Ophthalmic Services) (Amendment) Regulations

1999— (693)(iv) National Health Service Information Authority Regulations 1999— (694)(v) National Health Service Information Authority (Establishment and Constitution)

Order 1999— (695)(vi) National Health Service (Pharmaceutical Services) Amendment Regulations 1999—

(696)(vii) Southern Derbyshire Acute Hospitals National Health Service Trust (Transfer of

Trust Property) Order 1999— (721)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;

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9. Medicines (Sale or Supply) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment Regulations 1999,laid under the Medicines Act 1968; (644)

10. Magistrates’ Courts (Hearsay Evidence in Civil Proceedings) Rules 1999, laid under theMagistrates’ Courts Act 1980; (681)

11. Road Vehicles (Statutory OV-Road Notification) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994; (713)

12. Motor Cycles (Eye Protectors) Regulations 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988;(535)

13. Calshot Oyster Fishery (Variation) Order 1999, laid under the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish)Act 1967; (697)

14. Agricultural Wages Act 1948 (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the NationalMinimum Wage Act 1998; (712)

15. (i) Meat Products (Hygiene) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (683)(ii) Rural Diversification Programme (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999—(651)(iii) Highlands and Islands Agricultural Programme Amendment Regulations 1999—

(647)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

16. (i) Education (Transfer of Functions Concerning School Lunches) (Wales) Order1999— (610)

(ii) Education (Education Standards Grants) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (521)(iii) Education (Grant-maintained and Grant-maintained Special Schools) (Grants)

(England) Regulations 1999— (698)laid under the Education Act 1996;

17. Social Security (Industrial Injuries) (Dependency) (Permitted Earnings Limits) Order1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (529)

18. Scottish Ambulance Service Board Order 1999, laid under the National Health Service(Scotland) Act 1978; (686)

19. (i) Industrial and Provident Societies (Credit Unions) (Fees) Regulations 1999— (739)(ii) Industrial and Provident Societies (Fees) Regulations 1999— (740)

laid under the Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1965;20. Building Societies (General Charge and Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under the Building

Societies Act 1986; (738)21. Friendly Societies (General Charge and Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under the Friendly

Societies Act 1992; (736)22. Public OVers of Securities (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972. (734)

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Amendment to Air Publication 3376, Volume 1, Trade Structure of the Royal Air Force,

laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;2. Report for 1997–98 of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Schools in Wales, laid under the

School Inspections Act 1996;3. Statements of Guarantee by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of temporary

borrowings by—(i) Royal Shrewsbury Hospitals National Health Service Trust from the Royal Bank of

Scotland plc—(ii) Lincolnshire Ambulance and Health Transport Service National Health Service

Trust from the Royal Bank of Scotland plc—(iii) North Tees and Hartlepool National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(iv) Cornwall Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(v) Tees and North East Yorkshire National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—(vi) Swindon and Marlborough National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—(vii) Havering Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—

laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;4. Land Purchase Account for 1997–98 of the Supreme Court of Judicature in Northern

Ireland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theNorthern Ireland Land Purchase (Winding Up) Act 1935;

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5. Treasury Minute of 10th March 1999 directing the application of certain receipts asappropriations in aid of the votes specified in the revised spring supplementary estimatesfor the year ending 31st March 1999, laid under the Public Accounts and Charges Act1891;

6. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) (No. 2) Order1998 Partial Revocation Order 1999, laid under the Food and Environment ProtectionAct 1985. (649)

Select Committee Reports

10. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:9th Report, on the following Bills:

Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—Government amendments forconsideration on Report;Sexual OVences (Amendment) Bill;European Parliamentary Elections (Gibraltar) Bill [hl];Scottish Enterprise Bill. (HL Paper 40)

11. Science and Technology—The 3rd Report from the Select Committee, Management of NuclearWaste, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 41)

Public Business

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer set down for today shall belimited to 3° hours and that in the name of the Baroness Thomas of Walliswood to 2° hours;the motion was agreed to.

13. Countryside policy (3° hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domerthat there be laid before the House papers relating to the case for policies which will ensure aliving, working countryside and in particular to the need for clarity in the new relationshipsbetween the Regional Development Agencies, the Countryside Agency, Government oYces,the European Commission and local authorities; after debate, the motion was (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn.

14. Rail industry (2° hour debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Thomas of Walliswood that therebe laid before the House papers relating to the case for greater investment in rail infrastructureto enable the rail industry to play its full part in an integrated transport policy whilstmaintaining the highest safety standards; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House)withdrawn.

15. Ageing population—The Lord Dholakia asked Her Majesty’s Government what changes theyexpect in public policy in the new Millennium as a result of the ageing population; after debate,the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.

The House was adjourned at twenty-seven minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

Die Jovis 11) Martii 1999The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.

Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.

Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.

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Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.

Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dowding, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.

Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.

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Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Manchester, Bp.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.May, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.

Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandhurst, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Snowdon, E.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Judicial Business

1. Kuwait Airways Corporation and another (Appellants) v. Kuwait Insurance Company S A Kand others (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it wasordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 21st May 1997 be varied sothat, for paragraph 1, there be substituted the words: “that the PlaintiVs’ appeal be allowedin so far as it relates to spares questions 1 and 3; and that the appeal in all other respects bedismissed”; so that, in paragraph 2, after the word “part” there be inserted the words: “in sofar as it relates to sue and labour questions 1 and 2;” and after the word “dismissed” there beinserted the words: “, save as regards the PlaintiVs’ claim to indemnification in respect of thevalue of lost spares and equipment up to the maximum amount of US$ 150,000,000”; and afterthe figure “5(1)” there be inserted the words: “and, in paragraph 5, from ‘the PlaintiVs’ to theend of the paragraph”; and so that paragraph 3 be deleted; that the respondents do pay to theappellants one third of their costs before Mr Justice Rix between 17th October and 3rdNovember 1994, two thirds of their costs in the Court of Appeal and their costs before thisHouse, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties; and that the cause, together with the matter of other costsincurred by the appellants before the Queen’s Bench Division, be remitted to the Queen’sBench Division.

2. In re B (a minor) (A.P.) (Appellant)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to;it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 4th March 1998 be setaside save as to Legal Aid taxation; that the Order of Mr Justice Sumner of 6th November1997 be restored; and that the respondent do pay to the appellant her costs in the Court ofAppeal and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerkof the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in thisHouse be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

3. Regina v. Bingham (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland)(Northern Ireland)—

4. Regina v. Cooke (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal Northern Ireland) (NorthernIreland)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged thatthe Orders of the Court of Appeal in Northern Ireland of 21st March 1997 be aYrmed and theappeals dismissed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

5. Oath—Antony Charles Robert Earl of Snowdon took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiatives) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. State Immunity (Merchant Shipping) (Revocation) Order 1999, laid under the State

Immunity Act 1978; (668)2. Planning and Compensation Act 1991 (Amendment of Schedule 18) Order 1999, laid

under the Planning and Compensation Act 1991; (648)3. (i) Health and Safety (Fees) Regulations 1999— (645)

(ii) Control of Major Accident Hazards Regulations 1999— (743)laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;

4. (i) Local Government OYcers (Political Restrictions) (Amendment) Regulations1999— (715)

(ii) Public Airport Companies (Capital Finance) (Amendment) Order 1999— (554)laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989;

5. Organic Farming Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;(590)

6. (i) Police (Conduct) Regulations 1999— (730)(ii) Police (Conduct) (Senior OYcers) Regulations 1999— (731)(iii) Police (EYciency) Regulations 1999— (732)(iv) Police (Secretary of State’s Objectives) Order 1999— (543)

laid under the Police Act 1996;

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7. Misuse of Drugs (Licence Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Misuseof Drugs Act 1971; (741)

8. (i) Young OVender Institution (Amendment) Rules 1999— (729)(ii) Prison Rules 1999— (728)

laid under the Criminal Justice Act 1967;9. (i) Income-related Benefits (Subsidy to Authorities) Amendment Order 1999— (550)

(ii) Housing Benefit (Permitted Totals) (Amendment) Order 1999— (642)laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;

10. Social Security Contributions, Statutory Maternity Pay and Statutory Sick Pay(Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1999, laid under the Social SecurityContributions and Benefits Act 1992; (567)

11. Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes (Levy) Amendment Regulations 1999, laidunder the Pension Schemes Act 1993; (682)

12. (i) Education (References to Adjudicator) Regulations 1999— (702)(ii) Education (References to Delegated Budgets and Revocation) Regulations 1999—

(711)(iii) Education (School Organisation Plans) (England) Regulations 1999— (701)(iv) Education (Transition to New Framework) (School Organisation Proposals)

Regulations 1999— (704)(v) School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Modification, Transitional and

Consequential Provisions) Regulations 1999— (638)(vi) StaYng of Grant-maintained and Grant-maintained Special Schools (Transitional

Provisions) Regulations 1999— (705)(vii) Education (Schedule 32 to the School Standards and Framework Act 1998)

(England) Regulations 1999— (532)(viii) Education (School Organisation Committees) (England) Regulations 1999— (700)

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;13. (i) Education (Governors’ Allowances) Regulations 1999— (703)

(ii) Education (Payment for Special Educational Needs Supplies) Regulations 1999—(710)

laid under the Education Act 1996;14. (i) Brackenhurst College, Southwell (Dissolution) Order 1999— (699)

(ii) Leicester College (Government) Regulations 1999— (709)(iii) High Pavement Sixth Form College, Nottingham (Dissolution) Order 1999— (602)(iv) Leicester College (Incorporation) Order 1999— (708)(v) East Durham and Houghall Community College (Government) Regulations 1999—

(707)(vi) East Durham and Houghall Community College (Incorporation) Order 1999—

(706)laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;

15. Environmental Protection (Waste Recycling Payments) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990; (546)

16. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Portsmouth)Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (768)

17. Wireless Telegraphy (Television Licence Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949; (765)

18. National Health Service (Charges for Drugs and Appliances) and Travelling Expensesand remission of Charges) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the National HealthService Act 1977; (767)

19. National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting for England (Constitutionand Administration) Amendment Order 1999, laid under the Nurses, Midwives andHealth Visitors Act 1997; (766)

20. Civil Aviation (Navigation Services Charges) (Second Amendment) Regulations 1999,laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982; (618)

21. (i) SheriV Court Fees Amendment Order 1999— (754)(ii) Court of Session etc. Fees Amendment Order 1999— (755)(iii) High Court of Justiciary Fees Amendment Order 1999— (753)

laid under the Courts of Law Fees (Scotland) Act 1895;

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22. (i) Council Tax (Reductions for Disabilities) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations1999— (756)

(ii) Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) (Scotland) Amendment Order 1999— (757)laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;

23. (i) Clinical Standards Board for Scotland Order 1999— (726)(ii) National Health Service (General Ophthalmic Services) (Scotland) Amendment

Regulations 1999— (725)(iii) National Health Service (Dental Services) (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland)

Regulations 1999— (724)(iv) National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) (Scotland) Amendment

Regulations 1999— (748)(v) National Health Service (General Medical Services) (Scotland) Amendment

Regulations 1999— (749)laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;

24. Housing Accommodation and Homelessness (Persons subject to Immigration Control)(Amendment) (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996;

(723)25. Agricultural Wages (Scotland) Act 1949 (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

National Minimum Wage Act 1998; (750)26. Inshore Fishing (Prohibition of Fishing and Fishing Methods) (Scotland) Amendment

Order 1999, laid under the Inshore Fishing (Scotland) Act 1984; (751)27. Bankruptcy Fees (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the Bankruptcy

(Scotland) Act 1985. (752)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of Dartford River Crossing Limited, laid under the

Dartford–Thurrock Crossing Act 1988;2. County Court Fees Order 1999, laid under the County Courts Act 1984; (689)3. (i) Supreme Court Fees Order 1999— (687)

(ii) Non-Contentious Probate Fees Order 1999— (688)laid under the Supreme Court Act 1981;

4. Family Proceedings Fees Order 1999, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986; (690)5. Account for 1997–98 of the National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting

for Scotland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laidunder the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997.

9. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) (No. 2) OrderPartial Revocation Order 1999.

Public Business

10. Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]—A bill to make provision enabling verdicts of guiltybut insane to be referred to and reviewed by the Court of Appeal was presented by the LordAckner, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 35)

11. Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]——It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relatingto the bill be printed. (HL Bill 35–EN)

12. Health Bill [hl] —It was moved by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, on behalf of the BaronessHayman, that the amendments for the Report Stage be marshalled and considered in thefollowing order:

Clauses 1 and 2 Schedule 3Schedule 1 Clauses 48 to 50Clauses 3 to 14 Schedules 4 and 5Schedule 2 Clauses 51 to 54;Clauses 15 to 47

the motion was agreed to.

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13. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were moved and(by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to (see division list 1); anamendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); further amendments were agreed to; it wasordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 36)

14. Code of Practice on School Admissions—It was moved by the Baroness Blatch that this Housedeclines to approve the draft Code of Practice on School Admissions laid before the Houseunder sections 84 and 85 of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 on 5th February1999; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

15. Rating (Valuation) Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton, on behalf of theLord Whitty, that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed toand the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

16. Easter Act 1928 (Commencement) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Earl of Dartmouth that the billbe now read a second time; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn;then the bill was withdrawn.

The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes before eleven o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

DISABILITY RIGHTS COMMISSION BILL [HL]It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in Clause 2, page 1, line 25, at end to insert:

(“( ) make proposals or give other advice to any Government agency as to the practical applicationof any loss;”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon,, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 112

Not-Contents … … … … … 81

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Alderdice, L.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blatch, B.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Byford, B.Cadman, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clement-Jones, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craigavon, V.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Denham, L.Dholakia, L.Downshire, M.Elton, L.Ezra, L.

Falkland, V.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Grey, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harrowby, E.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Inglewood, L.Jacobs, L.Kimball, L.Kirkwood, L.Knollys, V.Lane of Horsell, L.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.

Marlesford, L.Merrivale, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Morris, L.Moyne, L.Newby, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Seccombe, B. [Teller]Sharp of Guildford, B.Skelmersdale, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.StraVord, E.

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Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.

Division No. 2

DISABILITY RIGHTS COMMISSION BILL [HL]It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in Clause 3, page 2, line 14, to leave out (“decide to”); which beingobjected to, the question was put thereupon,, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 48

Not-Contents … … … … … 99

CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Ashbourne, L.BiVen, L.Blatch, B.Brentford, V.Burnham, L. [Teller]Byford, B.Caithness, E.Campbell of Croy, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craigavon, V.Cross, V.Dacre of Glanton, L.

Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Vivian, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.

Gladwyn of Clee, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

Darcy de Knayth, B.Feldman, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Hanningfield, L.Harrowby, E.Lane of Horsell, L.Leigh, L.Lyell, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Manton, L.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.

Wigoder, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rogers of Riverside, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Morris, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.O’Cathain, B.Rankeillour, L.Renton, L.Rix, L.Seccombe, B.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L. [Teller]Taylor of Warwick, L.Weatherill, L.Wharton, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

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Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alderdice, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dholakia, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwyn of Clee, L.

Die Lunae 15) Martii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.

Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.

Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.

Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Scotland of Asthal, B.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.

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Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Digby, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.

Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.

Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.

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Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Her Majesty’s Treasury and others (Respondents) ex parte Shepherd Neame Limited(Petitioners)—The petition of Shepherd Neame Limited praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 10th March).

2. Chief Adjudication OYcer (Appellant) v. Faulds (Respondent) (Scotland)—The appeal was setdown for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 19th April next (theagents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

4. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal)—It was ordered that the appellant beallowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required byStanding Order (lodged 11th March).

Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.

Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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5. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal)—It was ordered that the appellant beallowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required byStanding Order (lodged 11th March).

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Patel (A.P.)(Appellant)—The appellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Europol—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and the Netherlands

concerning Privileges and Immunities for the Liaison OYcers at Europol, together withan explanatory memorandum; (4290)

2. Marine Salvage—Lord Donaldson’s Review of Salvage and Intervention and theirCommand and Control. (4193)

8. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 12th March, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Overseas Service (Pensions Supplement) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Pensions (Increase) Act 1971; (735)2. Parliamentary Pension Scheme (Additional Voluntary Contributions) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Parliamentary and other Pensions Act 1987; (780)3. New Deal (25 plus) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Order 1999, laid under the Employment

Act 1988; (779)4. Workmen’s Compensation (Supplementation) (Amendment) Scheme 1999, laid under

the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (720)

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Burnley Borough Council

and Epping Forest District Council) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act1988; (777)

2. Medicines (Monitoring of Advertising) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under theEuropean Communities Act 1972; (784)

3. National Assembly for Wales (Day of First Ordinary Election) (Postponement ofCommunity Councils Elections etc.) Order 1999, laid under the Government of WalesAct 1998; (722)

4. Nursery Education (England) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the NurseryEducation and Grant-Maintained Schools Act 1996; (802)

5. Social Security (Contributions and Credits) (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (568)

6. Social Security Benefits (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1999, laid under theJobseekers Act 1995; (714)

7. Merchant Shipping (Cargo Ship Construction) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (643)

8. (i) Road TraYc (NHS Charges) (Reviews and Appeals) Regulations 1999— (786)(ii) Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Regulations 1999— (785)

laid under the Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Act 1999.

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by—(i) Rockingham Forest National Health Service Trust from National Westminster Bank

plc—(ii) Heatherwood and Wexham Park Hospital National Health Service Trust from

Lloyds Bank plc—(iii) Portsmouth Hospitals National Heath Service Trust from Midland Bank plc—(iv) Leicestershire and Rutland Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—(v) Leicester Royal Infirmary National Health Service Trust from the Royal Bank of

Scotland plc—(vi) Plymouth Community Services National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—

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(vii) Oxfordshire Mental Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bankplc—

(viii) Portsmouth Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National WestminsterBank plc—

(ix) North Hampshire Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;

2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Scottish OYce Development Department: Erskine Bridge,together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the ErskineBridge Tolls Act 1968.

Public Business

11. Health Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was agreedto (see division list 1); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn;further consideration on report was adjourned.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

12. Health Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment wasdisagreed to (see division list 2); further consideration on report was adjourned afteramendment 46.

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Earl Howe, in Clause 2, page 1, line 17, at end to insert (“and following a majorityvote by the members of the Primary Care Group concerned after consultation with all health careprofessionals that would be covered by the Primary Care Trust.”); which being objected to, the questionwas put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 120

Not-Contents … … … … … 117

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Astor of Hever, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Chesham, L.

Clanwilliam, E.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Crickhowell, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundonald, E.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Glentoran, L.Gray of Contin, L.Harding of Petherton, L.

Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Jopling, L.Lauderdale, E.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.

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Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Naseby, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carew, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.

Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Rowallan, L.St. Davids, V.Seccombe, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.

Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Glanusk, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Laming, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.McCarthy, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stockton, E.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Orme, L.Patel, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Weatherill, L.Wharton, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Division No. 2

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord McColl of Dulwich, in Clause 7, page 7, line 28, at end to insert:

(“(4) The Secretary of State may direct NHS Trusts to establish that number of consultant postsrecommended centrally in order to deliver a consultant-based service.

(5) In pursuance of subsection (4) the Secretary of State shall establish the appropriate mechanismto ensure that agreement is reached centrally on the relationship between the number of junior staV intraining and the number of consultants required.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 30

Not-Contents … … … … … 71

CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Blackwell, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cox, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Bragg, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Dundonald, E.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Henley, L. [Teller]HolmPatrick, L.Howe, E.Hunt of Wirral, L.Inglewood, L.Kingsland, L.

Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.

Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Oxfuird, V.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Renton, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stockton, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Winston, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bradford, E.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.

Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.

Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.

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Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.

Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.

Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

1. Deputy Speakers—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that Her Majesty had (byCommission) revoked certain Letters Patent and had appointed the Chairman of Committeesfor the time being,

Terence George Lord Boston of Faversham (Chairman of Committees)Morys George Lyndhurst Lord AberdareGeoVrey Denis Erskine Lord AmpthillHenry Oscar Lord Murton of LindisfarneDavid Montague de Burgh Lord StrabolgiBeatrice Baroness SerotaCaroline Anne Baroness CoxMichael Francis Lovell Lord Cocks of HartcliVeGeorge Hubbard Viscount of OxfuirdBetty Baroness LockwoodRobert William Lord Elliott of MorpethArthur Paul Lord Dean of HarptreeRoger Lord SkelmersdaleMichael John Lord Brougham and VauxHugh John Frederick Lord BurnhamCharles Lord LyellColwyn Jestyn John Viscount St DavidsMichael JaVray Hynman Viscount Allenby of MegiddoGeoVrey Johnson Lord TordoVOlive Mary Wendy Baroness NicolThomas Edward Lord Graham of EdmontonGloria Dorothy Baroness HooperIan Lord McColl of DulwichMargaret Countess of MarJan David Viscount SimonNicholas Charles Lord CheshamOliver Michael Robert Lord Northington (Lord Henley)

Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.

Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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Rodney Lord EltonAndrew Robert Lord McIntosh of HaringeyMuriel Winifred Baroness Turner of CamdenDenis Victor Lord Carter

Speakers of the House in the absence of the Lord Chancellor.

Judicial Business

2. Three Rivers District Council and others (Appellants) v. Governor and Company of the Bank ofEngland (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Three Rivers District Council and Bank ofCredit and Commerce International SA (in liquidation) was presented and it was ordered thatin accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on orbefore 27th April next.

3. Halfpenny (Respondent) v. IGE Medical Systems Limited (Appellants) (England)—The appealof IGE Medical Systems Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 27th April next.

4. Three Rivers District Council and others (Petitioners) v. The Governor and Company of theBank of England (Respondents)—The petition of Three Rivers District Council and Bank ofCredit and Commerce International SA (in liquidation) praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 19th February).

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and others(Respondents)—Mrs Malvina Virginia O’Connor (Respondent) having applied for legal aidon 5th March, it was ordered that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and settingdown the cause for hearing be extended until six weeks after the final determination of theLegal Aid Board.

Papers

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Social Work Services—Aiming for Excellence: Modernising social work services in Scotland:Government Proposals. (4288)

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Social Security (Contributions) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid under theSocial Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (827)

2. (i) Legal Aid (Mediation in Family Matters) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (816)

(ii) Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (General) (Amendment) (No. 2)Regulations 1999— (815)

(iii) Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (814)

(iv) Civil Legal Aid (Assessment of Resources) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 —(813)

laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988.

8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

Report for 1998 of the Certification OYcer, laid under the Trade Union and Labour Relations(Consolidation) Act 1992.

Select Committee Report

9. Statutory Instruments—The 12th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Amendment) Order 1999;

Draft International Mobile Satellite Organisation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 1999;

Draft Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 1999;

Draft Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 1999;

Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 1999;

Draft Limit in Relation to Licences to Provide Radio Multiplex Services Order 1999;

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Draft Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (Application to Summary Proceedings)Order 1999;Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1999;Draft Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2) Regulations 1999;Draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999;Draft Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Continuance) Order 1999;Draft Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999;Draft National Minimum Wage (OVshore Employment) Order 1999;Draft Social Security (Incapacity, Earnings and Work Trials) Pilot Schemes Regulations1999;TraYc Areas (Reorganisation) (Wales) Order 1999;Draft New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiatives) Order 1999;it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 42)

Public Business

10. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The Queen’s Consent was signified; the bill was read a third time;amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1, 2 and 3); amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; a privilege amendment wasagreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.

11. Tourism—The Baroness Anelay of St Johns asked Her Majesty’s Government what is theirstrategy for tourism; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey.

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Goodhart, in Clause 2, page 2, line 12, at end to insert:

(“(2A) The Lord Chancellor shall before the commencement of each financial year inform theCommission—

(a) of the sums which he intends to pay to the Commission during that year for the funding of servicesby the Commission as part of the Community Legal Service, and

(b) of the sums which he expects to pay to the Commission during that year to meet the costs of anyadvice, assistance and representation funded by the Commission as part of the Criminal DefenceService.

(2B) The Lord Chancellor shall inform the Commission of any subsequent change in his intentionreferred to in subsection (2A)(a) or in his expectation referred to in subsection (2A)(b), and of hisreasons for making any such change.

(2C) The Lord Chancellor shall not make any change involving a reduction of the sums referred toin subsection (2A)(a) unless the Commission has advised him that such reduction can be made withoutdetriment to the services which are to be funded from the Community Legal Service for that yearpursuant to the plan published under paragraph 15 of Schedule 1.

(2D) The Lord Chancellor shall lay before each House of Parliament a statement of the informationgiven by him to the Commission under subsections (2A) or (2B).”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 80

Not-Contents … … … … … 134

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Avebury, L.Barber, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Bridgeman, V.Bruntisfield, L.

Cadman, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Clancarty, E.Clement-Jones, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Dahrendorf, L.

Dholakia, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.EYngham, E.Ezra, L.Gainford, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Goodhart, L. [Teller]

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Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayter, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Inglewood, L.Kingsland, L. [Teller]Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.McConnell, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwin of Clee, L.

Mar and Kellie, E.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milverton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Newall, L.Northbrook, L.Nunburnholme, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pender, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kintore, E.Laming, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

Russell, E.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Taverne, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.TordoV, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nelson, E.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Peston, L.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Richard, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tryon, L.Varley, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.

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Division No. 2

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Phillips of Sudbury, in Clause 7, page 5, line 17, at end to insert:

(“( ) In funding services as part of the Community Legal Service, the Commission shall aim to obtainthe best long term value for money on the basis that all persons and bodies applying for funding whomeet the standards set by the Commission shall be able to provide services for individuals under thisPart of this Act on terms as to remuneration and otherwise, set by contract or by regulations.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 119

Not-Contents … … … … … 127

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Barber, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Blatch, B.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Carlisle, E.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Clement-Jones, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Gainford, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Glentoran, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.

Goodhart, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayhoe, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Kelvedon, L.Kingsland, L. [Teller]Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Monro of Langholm, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Newall, L.Northbrook, L.Park of Monmouth, B.

Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.

Phillips of Sudbury, L. [Teller]Platt of Writtle, B.Rankeillour, L.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.

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Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.

Division No. 3

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Kingsland, in Schedule 5, page 74, to leave out lines 36 and 37; which beingobjected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 89

Not-Contents … … … … … 109

CONTENTS

Ackner, L. [Teller]Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Bethell, L.Blatch, B.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Byford, B.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Chesham, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cross, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Dundee, E.Fookes, B.Gisborough, L.Glenarthur, L.

Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.Northbourne, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.

Goodhart, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grey, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]HolmPatrick, L.Howe, E.Inglewood, L.Jopling, L.Kingsland, L.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mancroft, L.Masham of Ilton, B.

Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Richard, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.

Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Napier and Ettrick, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Perry of Walton, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Poole, L.Renton, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.

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Stair, E.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strathclyde, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Vivian, L.

Goudie, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.

Wallace of Saltaire, L.Weatherill, L.Wigoder, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.Orme, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Winston, L.

Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

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Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.

Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.

Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.

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Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.

Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seafield, E.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.

Selkirk of Douglas, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.StaVord, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.

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Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Stannifer Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Glasgow Development Agency and others(Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodgingthe statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 31stMarch next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Overseas Territories—Partnership for Progress and Prosperity: Britain and the Overseas

Territories: Government Proposals; (4264)2. Finance—Treasury Minute on the 68th and 69th Reports from the House of Commons

Committee of Public Accounts, Session 1997–98. (4279)

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Plant Health (Fees) (Forestry) (Great Britain) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid

under the European Communities Act 1972; (783)2. Statutory Sick Pay and Statutory Maternity Pay (Decisions) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Social Security Administration Act 1992; (776)3. (i) Legal Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland)

1999— (—)(ii) Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999—

(—)(iii) Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999— (—)

laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1997–98 of the Historic Buildings Council for Scotland, laid under the Historic

Buildings and Ancient Monuments Act 1953;2. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by—(i) Northern General Hospital National Health Service Trust from the Royal Bank of

Scotland plc—(ii) Queens Medical Centre Nottingham University Hospital National Health Service

Trust from National Westminster Bank plc—(iii) Wakefield and Pontefract Community Health National Health Service Trust from

Barclays Bank plc—(iv) West Dorset General Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Public Business

5. Parliamentary Government Bill [hl]—A bill to make new provision about Parliamentarygovernment; and for connected purposes was presented by the Viscount Cranborne, read afirst time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 37)

6. House of Lords Bill—A bill to end membership of the House of Lords by virtue of a hereditarypeerage; to make related provision about disqualifications for voting at elections to, and formembership of, the House of Commons; and for connected purposes was brought from theCommons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 38)

7. House of Lords Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed.(HL Bill 38–EN)

Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.

Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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8. Parliament and democracy—It was moved by the Lord Waddington that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the need to maintain respect for Parliament and to safeguarddemocracy; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

9. Nagorno-Karabakh—The Viscount Waverley asked Her Majesty’s Government what progresshas been made with the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe solutions tothe situation in Nagorno-Karabakh; after debate, the question was answered by the BaronessSymons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past nine o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.

Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Cholmondeley, M.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.

Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.

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Emerton, B.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flowers, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.

Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Keith of Kinkel, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.

Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.

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Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1. Vehicle Inspectorate (Respondents) v. Nuttall (Appellant) (On appeal from a Divisional Court ofthe Queen’s Bench Division)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; itwas ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Divisional Court of 15th April 1997 be variedso that, for the words from “with a direction” to “informations”, there be substituted thewords: “for retrial” and that, before the word “paid”, there be inserted the words: “the costsof the hearing in the Court below”; and that there be no further order as to costs.

2. Taylor (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Respondent) (Scotland)—The appeal ofGeorge Taylor was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VIthe statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 29th April next.

3. Phonographic Performance Limited (Respondents) v. AEI Music Limited (Petitioners)—Thepetition of AEI Music Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

4. Poseidon SchiVahrt Gmbh (Petitioners) v. Nomadic Navigation Company Limited(Respondents)—The petition of Poseidon SchiVahrt Gmbh praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying thatthe time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing mightbe extended to 15th April next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.

Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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6. Appeal Committee—The 22nd Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:Scandecor Development AB (Petitioners) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others(Respondents) and one other action—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition ofappeal be lodged by 1st April next.Owners of the Ship or Vessel ‘Herceg Novi’ (Petitioners) v. Owners and/or demise charterersof the ship or vessel ‘Ming Galaxy’ (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; and thatthe petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, the amount thereof to becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Immigration Appellate Authority (Respondents) ex parte Secretary of State for theHome Department (Respondent) and Cakabay (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal berefused; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d), and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties, and that the costs of therespondents be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.W 1-6 (A.P.) (Cross-Petitioners) v. Essex County Council and another (Cross-Respondents)—That leave to cross-appeal be given, and that the petition of cross-appeal belodged by 1st April next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

7. Oath — David George Philip Marquess of Cholmondeley took and subscribed the oath pursuantto statute.

Papers

8. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Carriage by Air Acts (Implementation of Protocol No. 4 of Montreal, 1975) Order

1999;2. Draft Carriage by Air Acts (Application of Provisions) (Fifth Amendment) Order 1999.

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Sea Fish Industry Authority (Levy) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 Confirmatory Order

1999, laid under the Fisheries Act 1981; (837)2. Food Labelling (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990;

(747)3. (i) National Health Service (Liabilities to Third Parties Scheme) Regulations 1999—

(873)(ii) National Health Service (Property Expenses Scheme) Regulations 1999— (874)(iii) Welsh Health Common Services Authority (Abolition) Order 1999— (804)(iv) Health Promotion Authority for Wales (Abolition) Order 1999— (807)(v) Health Promotion Authority for Wales (Revocation) Regulations 1999— (805)(vi) Welsh Health Common Services Authority (Revocation) Regulations 1999 —

(806)(vii) Velindre National Health Service Trust (Transfer of Trust Property) Order 1999—

(808)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;

4. Measuring Instruments (EEC Requirements) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,laid under the Finance Act 1973. (861)

10. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Scottish OYce Statistical Bulletin for 1997: Motor Vehicle OVences in Scotland, laid

under the Police (Scotland) Act 1967;2. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by —(i) Leeds Teaching Hospitals National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank plc—(ii) Hinchingbrooke Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—(iii) Norfolk and Norwich Health Care National Health Service Trust from Barclays

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(iv) Northampton General Hospital National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bankplc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1992;

3. Report for 1998 of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints for NorthernIreland, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Order 1987.

Private Business

11. United Reformed Church Bill [hl]—The Examiner’s certificate that the further Standing Ordershad been complied with was ordered to lie on the Table and the bill was committed to anUnopposed Bill Committee.

Public Business

12. Tax Credits Bill—A bill to provide family credit and disability working allowance to be known,respectively, as working families’ tax credit and disabled person’s tax credit; and to makefurther provision with respect to those credits, including provision for the transfer of functionsrelating to them was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to beprinted. (HL Bill 39)

13. Tax Credits Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HLBill 39–EN)

14. Health Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; an amendment was agreed to (seedivision list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; furtheramendments were agreed to; further consideration on report was adjourned.

15. Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Continuance) Order 1999—It wasmoved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 4th March beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

16. Health Bill [hl]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the billbe printed as amended. (HL Bill 40)

The House was adjourned at a quarter-past ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Earl Howe, after Clause 18, to insert the new Clause (Independent hospitals);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 161

Not-Contents … … … … … 113

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Addington, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berners, B.Blackburn, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V. [Teller]

Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cranborne, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Davidson, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon-Smith, L.

Downshire, M.Eames, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Ferrers, E.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.

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Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Jacobs, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McConnell, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Malmesbury, E.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mersey, V.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carew, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Diamond, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Emerton, B.Evans of Watford, L.

Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pender, L.Pike, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Poole, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.

Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gainsborough, E.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.

St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stockton, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wilcox, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Laming, L.Lawrence, L.Levy, L.Lockwood, B.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Patel, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.

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Shannon, E.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stallard, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.

Die Lunae 22) Martii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.

Tenby, V.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.

Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.

Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Winston, L.

Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.

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Flowers, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.

Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.

Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parkinson, L.Patel, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.

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Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1. Morris and others (Petitioners) v. Hateley and others (Respondents) (lodged 17th March)—Thepetition of GeoVrey Vernon Morris, Samir Kumar Thaker and Paul Ian Turner praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Regina v. Sandford (Petitioner) (lodged 17th March)—The petition of Terence James Sandfordpraying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Bettison and others (Respondents) v. Langton and others (Petitioners) (lodged 19th March)—Thepetition of Wilfred Larry Penter and Heather Mary Penter praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Berkeley (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 26th April next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Northern Ireland—

(i) Agreements between the United Kingdom and Ireland establishing—(a) a British–Irish Council; (19th March) (4296)(b) a British–Irish Intergovernmental Conference; (19th March) (4295)(c) a North/South Ministerial Council; (19th March) (4294)(d) Implementation Bodies; (19th March) (4293)together with explanatory memoranda;

(ii) Agreement between the United Kingdom and Ireland, together with an explanatorymemorandum; (19th March) (4292)

Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.

Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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2. Air Services—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Qatar concerning AirServices; (19th March) (4289)

3. Transport—Agreement between the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic onInternational Road Transport; (19th March) (4287)

4. Headquarters Agreement—Draft Headquarters Agreement between the UnitedKingdom and the International Mobile Satellite Organisation. (22nd March) (4311)

6. Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instrument, having been laidbefore the House on 19th March, was ordered to lie on the Table:Education (Individual Pupil Information) (Prescribed Persons) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Education Act 1996. (903)

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft General Teaching Council for England (Constitution) Regulations 1999;2. Draft General Teaching Council for Wales (Constitution) Regulations 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Crown Court (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the Judicature

(Northern Ireland) Act 1978; (—)2. (i) Scotland Act 1998 (General Transitory, Transitional and Savings Provisions) Order

1999— (901)(ii) Scottish Parliament (Letters Patent and Proclamations) Order 1999— (737)(iii) Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (Crown Status) Order 1999— (677)

laid under the Scotland Act 1998;3. (i) Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (Feeding StuVs and Surveillance) Regulations

1999— (882)(ii) Motor Vehicles (EC Type Approval) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (778)(iii) European Communities (Designation) Order 1999— (654)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;4. Parliamentary Copyright (Scottish Parliament) Order 1999, laid under the Copyright,

Designs and Patents Act 1988; (676)5. (i) Transfer of Functions (Lord Advocate and Secretary of State) Order 1999— (678)

(ii) Transfer of Functions (Lord Advocate and Advocate General for Scotland) Order1999— (679)laid under the Ministers of the Crown Act 1975;

6. (i) Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of OverseasForfeiture Orders) (Scotland) Order 1999— (675)

(ii) Confiscation of the Proceeds of Crime (Designated Countries and Territories)(Scotland) Order 1999— (673)laid under the Proceeds of Crime (Scotland) Act 1995;

7. Hong Kong (Overseas Public Servants) (Pension Supplements) (Amendment) Order1999, laid under the Hong Kong (Overseas Public Servants) Act 1996; (666)

8. Education (Inspectors of Schools in Wales) Order 1999, laid under the School InspectionsAct 1996; (657)

9. Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) (Northern Ireland) Order1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Act 1999;

(671)10. Prosecution of OVences Act 1985 (Specified Proceedings) Order 1999, laid under the

Prosecution of OVences Act 1985; (904)11. Education (School Teachers’ Pay and Conditions) Order 1999, laid under the School

Teachers’ Pay and Conditions Act 1991; (917)12. Social Security (Overlapping Benefits) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the

Social Security Administration Act 1992; (820)13. (i) Social Security Benefits Up-rating Regulations 1999— (858)

(ii) Social Security Benefits Up-rating and Miscellaneous Increases Regulations 1999—(862)

(iii) Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (General) Amendment Regulations 1999—(920)

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.

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9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report by the Chairman of Committees and the Chairman of Ways and Means in the

House of Commons on the Railtrack (Waverley Station) Draft Provisional Order, laidunder the Private Legislation Procedure (Scotland) Act 1936;

2. (i) NCIS (Secretary of State’s Objectives) Order 1999— (822)(ii) National Crime Squad (Secretary of State’s Objectives) Order 1999— (821)

laid under the Police Act 1997;3. Police Appeals Tribunals Rules 1999, laid under the Police Act 1996; (818)4. Scottish OYce Statistical Bulletin for 1996–97: Scottish Local Government Financial

Statistics, laid under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973;5. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by:(i) Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospital National Health Service Trust from

National Westminster Bank plc—(ii) York Health Services National Heath Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(iii) BHB Community Health Care National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—(iv) Plymouth Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(v) Exeter & District Community Health Service National Health Service Trust from

Barclays Bank plc—(vi) Avalon, Somerset National Health Service Trust from National Westminster Bank

plc—(vii) Wiltshire Health Care National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank plc—(viii) South Tees Acute Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Midland Bank plc—(ix) Luton and Dunstable Hospitals National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—(x) North West Anglia Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—(xi) Severn National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(xii) Gloucestershire Royal National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—

laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;6. Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by the

British Waterways Board from National Westminster Bank plc, laid under the TransportAct 1962.

Public Business

10. Procedure of the House—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the First Report fromthe Select Committee (HL Paper 33) be agreed to; then it was moved by the Lord Morris ofCastle Morris, as an amendment thereto, at end to insert (“save that, in paragraph 1 (“Reportof the Group on Procedure in the Chamber”), on page 4, in the sub-paragraph headed“Divisions”, leave out (“in consequence be extended from three to four minutes”) and insert(“remain at three minutes”)”); after debate, the amendment was agreed to; then it was movedby the Baroness Young after the words last inserted to insert (“save that, notwithstandingparagraph 2 (“The General Debate Day”), Wednesday shall remain the general debate day”);the amendment was agreed to (see division list); then the original motion, as amended, wasagreed to.

11. Future Financing of the European Union (ECC debate)—It was moved by the Lord Grenfell thatthis House take note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on FutureFinancing of the EU: who pays and how? (6th Report, HL Paper 36); after debate, the motionwas agreed to.

12. Scottish Enterprise Bill—It was moved by the Lord Macdonald of Tradeston that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

13. Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Mackay ofArdbrecknish that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed toand the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

14. International Mobile Satellite Organisation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 1999—It wasmoved by the Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale that the draft Order laid before the House on 25thFebruary be approved; the motion was agreed to.

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15. Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 1999—

16. Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order and the Order (S.I. 525/99) laid beforethe House on 3rd March be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

17. Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Code of Practice) Order 1999—It was movedby the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 8th March be approved; themotion was agreed to.

18. Limit in Relation to Licences to Provide Radio Multiplex Services Order 1999—It was moved bythe Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 8th March beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

19. New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiatives) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordMcIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before the House on 11th March be approved;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

20. Gas fuel for motor vehicles—The Lord Steel of Aikwood asked Her Majesty’s Government whatsteps they will take, in the interests of the urban environment, to encourage the growth in useof gas fuel for motor vehicles; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes before three o’clockin the morning of Tuesday 23rd March till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISION

PROCEDURE COMMITTEEIt was moved by the Baroness Young, as an amendment to the Chairman of Committees’ motion thatthe First Report from the Select Committee be agreed to, at end to insert (“save that, notwithstandingparagraph 2 (“The General Debate Day”) Wednesday shall remain the general debate day”); whichbeing objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 225

Not-Contents … … … … … 87

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clement-Jones, L.Congleton, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.

Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L. [Teller]Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Ferrers, E.Flowers, L.Foley, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Gray of Contin, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Harlech, L.

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Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kinloss, Ly.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Long, V.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alli, L.Amos, B.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dixon, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Evans of Parkside, L.

May, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Palmer, L.Perry of Walton, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Poole, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller]Grenfell, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.

Russell, E.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandberg, L.Seccombe, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Stair, E.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Tryon, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Young, B. [Teller]

Kennet, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mallalieu, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L. [Teller]Murray of Epping Forest, L.Orme, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.

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Simon, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.

Die Martis 23) Martii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Bingham of Cornhill, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.

Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.

Walker of Doncaster, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dickinson, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.

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Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Hemingford, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.

Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.

Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parry, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

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Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Portsmouth, E.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Mander Hadley (Respondents)—The appealwas set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 22nd March).

2. Appeal Committee—The 23rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Order was made:Regina v. Leeds Crown Court (Respondents) ex parte Hunt (A.P.) (Petitioner) and others(application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs ofthe petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Social Security—A new contract for welfare: safeguarding social security: Government

Proposals; (4276)2. Health—Departmental Report on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2000:

the Department of Health; (4203)

Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Tombs, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Foreign AVairs—Government Response to the First Report of the House of CommonsForeign AVairs Committee on Foreign Policy and Human Rights. (4299)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Wireless Telegraphy (Exemption) Regulations 1999, laid under the Wireless Telegraphy

Act 1949; (930)2. (i) National Health Service Trusts (Membership and Procedure) Amendment

Regulations 1999— (945)(ii) Health Authorities (Membership and Procedure) Amendment Regulations 1999—

(946)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977.

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. 1998 Return of Expenditure Incurred and Prosecutions Taken under the Animal Health

Act 1981 and Incidences of Disease in Imported Animals, laid under the Animal HealthAct 1981;

2. Accounts for 1997 of the Buying Agency, together with the Report of the Comptrollerand Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973;

3. 2nd Report for Session 1998–99 of the Health Service Commissioner: Investigation of aComplaint about Treatment by Deputising Doctors, laid under the Health ServiceCommissioners Act 1993;

4. Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by theCivil Aviation Authority from National Westminster Bank plc, laid under the CivilAviation Act 1982.

Select Committee Report

6. Statutory Instruments—The 13th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Carriage by Air Acts (Implementation of Protocol No. 4 of Montreal, 1975) Order1999;Draft Carriage by Air Acts (Application of Provisions) (Fifth Amendment) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 44)

Private Business

7. City of Westminster Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to withamendments.

Public Business

8. European Tax Harmonisation (Veto) Bill [hl]—A bill to require Ministers of the Crown to obtainthe approval of Parliament and the public before agreeing in the Council of Ministers toEuropean Community proposals for tax harmonisation was presented by the LordWaddington, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 41)

9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 44(Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with to enable the Consolidated Fund (No. 2)Bill to be taken through all its stages this day; the motion was agreed to.

10. Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill—A bill to apply certain sums out of the Consolidated Fund to theservice of the years ending on 31st March 1998 and 1999 was brought from the Commonsendorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a first time;then, Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, it was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committeewas negatived; then the bill was read a third time and passed.

11. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments weremoved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to (see division list1); further amendments were agreed to; amendment were disagreed to (see division lists 2 and3); an amendment was negatived; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill waspassed and sent to the Commons.

12. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreedto; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 4 and 5); an amendment was moved and(by leave of the House) withdrawn; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill waspassed and sent to the Commons.

13. Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Ackner that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

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14. Railways (Rateable Values) (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that thedraft Order laid before the House on 24th February be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

15. Civil Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999—

16. Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1999—

17. Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (Application to Summary Proceedings) Order1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 22ndFebruary and the draft Order laid before the House on 8th March be approved en bloc; themotion was agreed to.

18. Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 1) Order 1999—

19. Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel that the draft Orders laid before the House on 25th Februaryand 8th March be approved en bloc; the motion was agreed to.

20. Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 1999—

21. Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1999—

22. Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before theHouse on 4th and 8th March be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

23. Social Security (New Deal Pilot) Amendment Regulations 1999—It was moved by the BaronessHollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 22nd February beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

24. Social Security (Incapacity, Earnings and Work Trials) Pilot Schemes Regulations 1999—It wasmoved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Regulations laid before the Houseon 10th March be approved; the motion was agreed to.

25. National Minimum Wage (OVshore Employment) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordSainsbury of Turville, on behalf of the Baroness Hollis of Heigham, that the draft Order laidbefore the House on 10th March be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at two minutes past midnighttill later the same day, two o’clock in the afternoon for judicial business,

half-past two o’clock for public business.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Windlesham, in Clause 1, page 1, line 21, to leave out from (“court”) to (“to”)and insert (“may order the oVender”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and theHouse divided:

Contents … … … … … … 149

Not-Contents … … … … … 144

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Addison, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Broadbridge, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleraine, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.

Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Davidson, V.Denbigh, E.Dickinson, L.Donegall, M.Downshire, M.Elles, B.Ferrers, E.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gage, V.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glenarthur, L.

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Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Jopling, L.Kimball, L.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Brightman, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Craig of Radley, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.

McNally, L.Marlesford, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merrivale, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Newall, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Oxfuird, V.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Poole, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gainsborough, E.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.

Romney, E.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Trenchard, V.Tugendhat, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wilcox, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Levy, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.

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Monson, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B. [Teller]Randall of St. Budeaux, L.

Division No. 2

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Ackner, in Clause 33, page 24, line 29, at end to insert:

(“except with leave of the judge who shall give leave if, and only if, he is satisfied that it would be unfairto the defendant not to be at liberty so to cross-examine.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 47

Not-Contents … … … … … 149

CONTENTS

Ackner, L. [Teller]Aldington, L.Barber, L.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Courtown, E.Craigavon, V.Cross, V.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dundonald, E.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Falkland, V.Fookes, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Byford, B.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.

Richard, L.Rowallan, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.

Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Hayhoe, L.Holderness, L.Hooson, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Ironside, L.Kintore, E.Lane, L.Leigh, L.McConnell, L.McNair, L.Mancroft, L.Monson, L.

Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eden of Winton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.

Strabolgi, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Munster, E.Nunburnholme, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Renton, L.Sharples, B.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Swinfen, L.Thomas of Gresford, L. [Teller]Thomas of Gwydir, L.Vinson, L.Weatherill, L.Wharton, B.Windlesham, L.Wynford, L.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gilbert, L.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.

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Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.

Division No. 3

YOUTH JUSTICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Cope of Berkerley, in Clause 64, page 44, line 34, at end to insert (“but anyorder appointing a day in respect of section 43 shall be accompanied by a statement by the Secretary ofState setting out—

(a) the necessity for the commencement of that section; and(b) how that section complies with Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights.”); which

being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 54

Not-Contents … … … … … 109

CONTENTS

Aldington, L.Annaly, L.Barber, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V. [Teller]Burnham, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chesham, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Dean of Harptree, L.Dixon-Smith, L.

Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Norton of Louth, L.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.

Eden of Winton, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Glentoran, L.Goschen, V.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hooper, B.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Luke, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Miller of Hendon, B.

Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Young of Old Scone, B.

Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Mountevans, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Rowallan, L.Seccombe, B. [Teller]Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Wakeham, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

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NOT-CONTENTSActon, L.Addington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Craigavon, V.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Goodhart, L.

Division No. 4DISABILITY RIGHTS COMMISSION BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in Clause 8, page 7, line 6, at end to insert:(“(10) An order under subsection (6)(c) shall be made by statutory instrument; and no such statutory

instrument shall be made until it has been laid in draft before, and approved by resolution of, eachHouse of Parliament.””);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 46

Not-Contents … … … … … 81

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Annaly, L.Blatch, B.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V. [Teller]Burnham, L.Byford, B.Carlisle, E.Carnock, L.Courtown, E.Darcy de Knayth, B.Geraint, L.Goschen, V.Greenway, L.Grey, E.Hanningfield, L.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Jeger, B.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.

Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hooper, B.Kingsland, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Leigh, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.McConnell, L.McNair, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Masham of Ilton, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mountevans, L.Northesk, E.

Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Palmer, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Rees, L.Seccombe, B.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stockton, E.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Wakeham, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

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Acton, L.Alli, L.Amos, B. [Teller]Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L.Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.

Division No. 5

DISABILITY RIGHTS COMMISSION BILL [HL]It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in Schedule 3, page 17, line 6, at end to insert:

(“( ) The Commission shall arrange for the removal of a non-discrimination notice from the registerwhen the action required by the notice has been complied with.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 33

Not-Contents … … … … … 91

CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Blatch, B.Bridgeman, V.Burnham, L. [Teller]Byford, B.Colwyn, L.Courtown, E.Glentoran, L.Goschen, V.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.

Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.

Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hooper, B.Kingsland, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Leigh, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Miller of Hendon, B.

Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.

Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Mountevans, L.Norton of Louth, L.Palmer, L.Rees, L.Rowallan, L.Seccombe, B.Stockton, E.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.

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Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BeloV, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.

Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nicol, B.Orme, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.

Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.

Sewel, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.

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Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gallacher, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.GoV of Chieveley, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

GriYths, L.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Hemingford, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchyra, L.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jersey, E.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.

Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, Bp.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

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Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Parry, L.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Bartle and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others (Appellants) exparte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s BenchDivision)—

2. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged thatthe Order of the Divisional Court of 28th October 1998 relating to the decision of Mr Evanssitting at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court on 16th October 1998 to issue a provisional warrant

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Southwell, Bp.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.

Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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for the arrest of the respondent, be aYrmed save as to costs; that the Order of the DivisionalCourt of 28th October 1998 relating to the decision of Mr Bartle sitting in the same court on22nd October 1998 to issue a further provisional warrant for the arrest of the respondent, beset aside; that the said decision of Mr Bartle be restored, save that the warrant be varied sothat for the instances of the date “1st January 1988” there be substituted the date “8thDecember 1988” and that the charges numbered 3, 4 and 5 be deleted; and that the questionof costs be adjourned sine die.

3. Morgans (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) (On Appeal from aDivisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The petition of Stephen Morgans prayingfor leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 23rd March).

4. Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 6th May next (the agents for therespondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

5. Earl of Jersey—George Francis William Earl of Jersey sat first in Parliament after the death of hisgrandfather, George Francis Earl of Jersey, having first taken and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Departmental Reports on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2002

by—(i) The Law OYcers’ Departments; (4207)(ii) The Department for Education and Employment and OYce for Standards in

Education; (4202)2. Local Government—Local Leadership, Local Choice: Government consultation

document. (4298)

7. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft European Parliamentary Elections Regulations 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Police (Health and Safety) Regulations 1999, laid under the Health and Safety at Work

etc. Act 1974; (860)2. (i) Water Protection Zone (River Dee Catchment) Designation Order 1999— (915)

(ii) Water Protection Zone (River Dee Catchment) (Procedural and Other Provisions)Regulations 1999— (916)laid under the Water Resources Act 1991.

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. 3rd Report for Session 1998–99 of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration:

Disclosure of Information relating to Deaths in Prison, laid under the ParliamentaryCommissioner Act 1967;

2. Objectives for the Policing of Northern Ireland, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland)Act 1998.

Select Committee Report

10. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:10th Report, on the following bills:

House of Lords Bill;Further and Higher Education (Scotland) (Amendment) Bill [hl];Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]. (HL Paper 45)

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Private Business

11. City of Westminster Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered and agreed to.

Public Business

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Northbourne set down for today shall be limited to 3° hoursand that in the name of the Viscount Tenby to 2° hours; the motion was agreed to.

13. Marriage (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Northbourne that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the economic and social role of marriage; after debate, the motionwas (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

14. Persistent juvenile oVenders (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Viscount Tenby that there belaid before the House papers relating to the problems of dealing with persistent juvenileoVenders, in the light of the report by the Social Services Inspectorate on the Medway SecureTraining Centre; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

15. Gulf War illnesses—The Lord Morris of Manchester asked Her Majesty’s Government whatprogress they are making in their investigations into the undiagnosed illnesses of service menand women who served in the Gulf War; after debate, the question was answered by theLord Hoyle.

The House was adjourned at a quarter-before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.

Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.

Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.

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Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.

Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemingford, L.Hemphill, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.

Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.

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Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patel, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rankeillour, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1. Society of Lloyd’s (Cross-Appellants and Original Respondents) v. Robinson (OriginalAppellant and Cross-Respondent) and another—The Report from the Appellate Committeewas agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be dismissed and the cross-appealbe allowed in part; that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 30th July 1997 be varied so that,in the sentence beginning “And it is further ordered”, for the word “dismissed” there besubstituted the word “allowed”; that there be no order as to the costs of the appeal to thisHouse; and that the cross-appellants and original respondents do pay to the original appellantand cross-respondent his costs of the cross-appeal to this House, the amount thereof to becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales (Appellants) v. Commissioners ofCustoms and Excise (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreedto; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 15th May 1997 beaYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerkof the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.

Swinfen, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Svenska International Plc (Appellants) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise(Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 5th June 1997 be aYrmed and the appealbe dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.

4. Regina v. Criminal Injuries Compensation Board (Respondents) ex parte A (A.P.) (Appellant)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged thatthe Order of the Court of Appeal of 16th May 1997 and the Order of Mr Justice Popplewellof 15th December 1995 be set aside; that the matter be remitted to the Criminal InjuriesCompensation Board for reconsideration in the light of the report by Dr West; that therespondents do pay to the appellant her costs before Mr Justice Popplewell, in the Court ofAppeal and before this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the Appellantin this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

5. Dawson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Wearmouth (A.P.) (Respondent)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appealof 31st July 1997 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed; and that the costs of the appellant andrespondent in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

6. Regina v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal and another (Respondents) ex parte Shah (A.P.)(Appellant)—

7. Islam (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that,in the case of Shah, the Order of the Court of Appeal of 23rd July 1997 be set aside and theOrder of Mr Justice Sedley of 25th October 1996 be restored; that, in the case of Islam, theOrder of the Court of Appeal of 23rd July 1997 and the determination of the ImmigrationAppeal Tribunal of 2nd October 1996 be set aside; and that it be declared that: “In accordancewith section 8(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Appeals Act 1993 it would be contrary tothe obligations of the United Kingdom under the Convention relating to the Status ofRefugees done at Geneva on 28th July 1951 and the Protocol to that Convention for Mrs Islamto be required to leave the United Kingdom.”; that the respondents do pay to the appellantstheir costs in the Court of Appeal and in this House, the amount of such last-mentioned coststo be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that thecosts of the appellants in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

8. W 1-6 (A.P.) (Cross-Appellants) v. Essex County Council and another (Cross-Respondents)(England)—The cross-appeal of W 1 and W 2 was presented and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before6th May next.

9. Rembrandt Group Limited (Petitioners) v. Philip Morris International Incorporated(Respondents)—The petition of Rembrandt Group Limited praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

10. Appeal Committee—The 24th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Bogdal (Petitioner) v. Kingston-upon-Hull City Council (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Mainwaring and another (Respondents) v. Goldtech Investments Limited (Petitioners) andone other action—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—That therespondents be invited to lodge objections by 8th April next.In re Barker (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal AidAct 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Johnson (Petitioner) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—That the petition bereferred for hearing.Regina v. Northern Ireland Electricity plc (Respondents) ex parte Director General ofElectricity Supply of Northern Ireland (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appealbe refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

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11. Earl of Devon—Hugh Rupert Earl of Devon sat first in Parliament after the death of his father,Charles Christopher Earl of Devon, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

12. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Acts:Consolidated Fund Act c. 4City of Westminster Act c. i

Papers

13. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Departmental Reports on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2002

by:(i) the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions, the Ordnance

Survey, the OYce of Passenger Rail Franchising, the OYce of the Rail Regulator andthe OYce of Water Services; (4204)

(ii) the Cabinet OYce, the Central OYce of Information, the OYce of the ParliamentaryCommissioner for Administration and Health Service Commissioners, the PrivyCouncil OYce, the House of Lords, the House of Commons and the National AuditOYce; (4221)

2. Private Security Industry—The Government’s Proposals for Regulation of the PrivateSecurity Industry in England and Wales. (4254)

14. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Alterations to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme.

15. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Education (Secondary Education in Further Education Institutions) Regulations 1999,

laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992; (954)2. Statute made by the University of Oxford on 19th November 1998, laid under the

Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923; (—)3. (i) Local Government (Exemption from Competition) (Scotland) Amendment Order

1999— (937)(ii) Local Government Act 1988 (Competition) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations

1999— (947)laid under the Local Government Act 1988;

4. Police Grant (Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Police (Scotland) Act 1967; (953)5. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations

1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992. (907)

16. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Scottish OYce Statistical Bulletin for 1998: Recorded Crime in Scotland, laid under the

Police (Scotland) Act 1967;2. Report and Accounts for 1998 of the Commonwealth Development Corporation, laid

under the Commonwealth Development Corporation Act 1978.

Public Business

17. Local Government Bill—A bill to make provision imposing on local and certain other authoritiesrequirements relating to economy, eYciency and eVectiveness; and to make provision for theregulation of council tax and precepts was brought from the Commons, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 42)

18. Local Government Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 42–EN)

19. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington (Lord Privy Seal), that Standing Order 38 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) bedispensed with so far as is necessary to enable the motion standing in the name of the LordGilbert to be taken after the Third Reading of the Health Bill; the motion was agreed to.

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20. Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment wasdischarged.

21. Health Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to; amendments weremoved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to (see division list);a privilege amendment was agreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and sent to theCommons.

22. Kosovo—It was moved by the Lord Gilbert that this House take note of the situation in Kosovo;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

23. European Parliamentary Elections (Gibraltar) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Bethell that thebill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

24. Police vehicles—The Lord Campbell of Croy asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willgive advice to police authorities on the circumstances in which police vehicles may exceedspeed limits, ignore traYc lights and in other ways disregard the regulations governing traYcon public roads; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hoyle.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes past ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

HEALTH BILL [HL]It was moved by the Baroness Masham of Ilton, in Clause 9, page 12, line 24, at end to insert:

(“( ) The power conferred by subsection (1) shall be exercised so as to enable patients resident in anarea covered by a body referred to in that subsection to be referred out of that area where appropriatefor the purpose of receiving specialist hospital treatment and after-care.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 113

Not-Contents … … … … … 86

CONTENTS

Ailsa, M.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Berners, B.Blaker, L.Bledisloe, V.Bridgeman, V.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrington, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B. [Teller]Davidson, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.

Eames, L.Ellenborough, L.Elton, L.Fookes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Gray, L.Hanningfield, L.Hayhoe, L.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hylton-Foster, B.Jopling, L.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Milverton, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.

Monson, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.O’Cathain, B.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Rankeillour, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Sandwich, E.Selborne, E.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L. [Teller]Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.StraVord, E.Strange, B.

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Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Thurlow, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Borrie, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Emerton, B.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gainsborough, E.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Die Lunae 29) Martii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.

Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Tugendhat, L.Vivian, L.Walpole, L.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Laming, L.Levy, L.Lincoln, Bp.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.

Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

Walton of Detchant, L.Weatherill, L.Wharton, B.Wynford, L.Young, B.

McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mallalieu, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Turner of Camden, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blakenham, V.Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Bolton, L.Borrie, L.Boston, L.Boston of Faversham, L.

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Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.

Cowley, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devon, E.Dholakia, L.Dickinson, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Garel-Jones, L.

Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.

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Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.

McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.

Paul, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Portland, E.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.

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Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathalmond, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Judicial Business

1. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 1st Report:

Boukssid (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

O’Loughlin (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Essex (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal begiven, on terms that (a) the petitioner will honour the award and not seek a retrial and (b) willnot seek to overturn the costs orders already made in the respondent’s favour in the courtsbelow and (c) will pay the respondent’s costs of the appeal to this House whatever the outcomeof the appeal, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 12th April next.

2. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 15th Report:

Senate Electrical Wholesalers Limited (Petitioners) v. STC Submarine Systems Limited(Respondents) and another—That the petition be referred for hearing.

3. Appeal Committee—The 25th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:

Rowan Companies Inc (a body corporate) and others (Respondents) v. Lambert EgginkOVshore Transport Consultants VOF (a body corporate) and others (Petitioners)—That leaveto appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Reed (Petitioner) v. Sunderland Health Authority (Respondents)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Petitioners) (Northern Ireland)—That the respondents be invited tolodge objections by 12th April next.

Taylor Clark International Limited (Petitioners) v. Lewis (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)(Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply forhis costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torphichen, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.

Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wigram, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 12th April next.Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 12th April next.Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited)(Respondents) v. Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Petitioners)—That the petitionbe referred for hearing.

Papers

4. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Copyright—The Future Management of Crown Copyright: Government Proposals; (26th

March) (4300)2. Anti-Personnel Mines—Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling,

Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction; (26thMarch) (4308)

3. Crime—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Ireland concerning MutualAssistance in Relation to Criminal Matters, together with an explanatory memorandum;(26th March) (4306)

4. Human Rights—Protocol No. 6 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rightsand Fundamental Freedoms concerning the Abolition of the Death Penalty, togetherwith an explanatory memorandum; (26th March) (4284)

5. Regulatory Impact Assessments—Regulatory Impact Assessments for 1st July 1998 to31st December 1998; (26th March) (4301)

6. Finance—Departmental Reports on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for1999–2002:(i) the Home OYce and the Charity Commission—

(a) Volume 1: Home OYce Aims and Achievements; (26th March) (4205)(b) Volume 2: Home OYce Procedures and Practice and the Charity Commission;

(26th March) (4205)(ii) the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and the Intervention Board; (26th

March) (4212)(iii) the Ministry of Defence; (26th March) (4208)(iv) the Department for Culture, Media and Sport; (29th March) (4213)(v) the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s Departments. (29th March) (4218)

5. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 26th March, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Young OVender Institution (Amendment) (No. 2) Rules 1999, laid under the Criminal

Justice Act 1967; (962)2. Dual–Use and Related Goods (Export Control) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid

under the European Communities Act 1972; (984)3. Register of Patent Agents and the Register of Trade Mark Agents (Amendment) Rules

1999, laid under the Patents Act 1977; (983)4. Protection of Wrecks (M/S Estonia) Order 1999, laid under the Merchant Shipping and

Maritime Security Act 1997; (856)5. Education (Information About Individual Pupils) (England) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Education Act 1996; (989)6. Epsom College (Modification) Order 1999, laid under the Sex Discrimination Act 1975.

(988)

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. National Assembly for Wales (First Meeting) Order 1999, laid under the Government of

Wales Act 1998; (944)2. Merchant Shipping (Fire Protection) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (992)3. United Kingdom Ecolabelling Board (Abolition) Regulations 1999, laid under the

European Communities Act 1972; (931)4. Social Landlords (Additional Purposes or Objects) Order 1999, laid under the Housing

Act 1996; (985)

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5. Social Security Contributions etc. (Decisions and Appeals—Transitional Modifications)Regulations 1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions,etc.) Act 1999; (978)

6. Distraint by Authorised OYcers (Fees, Costs and Charges) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Social Security Administration Act 1992; (980)

7. Draft Government Stock (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the StatutoryInstruments Act 1946. (—)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Scheme made by Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council under section 19 of the

Welsh Church Act 1914, laid under that Act;2. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by:(i) United Bristol Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank plc—(ii) Royal Devon & Exeter Healthcare National Health Service Trust from National

Westminster Bank plc—(iii) East Wiltshire Health Care National Health Service Trust from Midland Bank plc—(iv) NuYeld Orthopaedic Centre National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(v) Epsom and St Helier National Health Service Trust from the Co-operative Bank

plc—(vi) Weston Area Health National Health Service Trust from National Westminster

Bank plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;

3. Report for 1997–98 of the Historic Buildings Council for Wales, laid under the HistoricBuildings and Ancient Monuments Act 1953;

4. Accounts for 1997–1998 of the Training and Enterprise Councils in Wales, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Exchequer and AuditDepartments Act 1866;

5. Report and accounts for 1998 of the Independent Television Commission, laid under theBroadcasting Act 1990;

6. Account of Government Annuities and Insurances for 1998, laid under the GovernmentAnnuities Act 1929;

7. Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by theCommission for the New Towns from Barclays Bank plc, laid under the New Towns Act1981;

8. Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing byLondon Regional Transport from the Midland Bank plc, laid under the LondonRegional Transport Act 1984.

Public Business

8. House of Lords Bill—The Queen’s and Prince of Wales’ Consents were signified; it was moved bythe Baroness Jay of Paddington (Lord Privy Seal) that the bill be now read a second time; adebate having arisen, it was moved by the Lord Cobbold, as an amendment thereto, at end toinsert (“but this House regrets that the bill radically alters the historic composition of theHouse of Lords for party political advantage, without consultation or consensus on thesuccessor House’s role and composition and without making it more democratic”); afterdebate, further debate was adjourned till later the same day.

The House was adjourned at ten minutes past three o’clockin the morning of Tuesday 30th Marchtill later the same day, eleven o’clock.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Armstrong of Ilminster, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath and Wells, Bp.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blakenham, V.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.

Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Braybrooke, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buchan, E.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Buxton of Alsa, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.

Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cowley, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Darcy de Knayth, B.Daresbury, L.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Desai, L.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dulverton, L.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.

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Enniskillen, E.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fortescue, E.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grantley, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Grimston of Westbury, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.

Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Hattersley, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Head, V.Hemphill, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hives, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Ingleby, V.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.

Knight of Collingtree, B.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Melchett, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.

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Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Owen, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.

Porter of Luddenham, L.Portland, E.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rodney, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slynn of Hadley, L.

Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathalmond, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

1. AYrmation—Peter Robert Henry Lord Melchett made and subscribed the solemn aYrmationpursuant to statute.

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Library and Information Commission—Report for 1997–98 of the Library and

Information Commission; (—)2. Disability—Government Response to the Third Report of the House of Commons Social

Security Select Committee on Disability Living Allowance; (4307)3. Public Accounts—Treasury Minute on the Fourth Report from the House of Commons

Committee of Public Accounts 1998–99; (4312)4. Finance—

(i) Departmental Reports on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2002 by—(a) the Lord Chancellor’s Department; (4206)(b) the Departments of the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Forestry

Commission; (4215)(c) the Northern Ireland OYce; (4217)(d) the Department for International Development; (4210)(e) the Department of Trade and Industry, the Export Credits Guarantee

Department, the OYce of Fair Trading, the OYce of Telecommunications, theOYce of Gas Supply and the OYce of Electricity Regulation; (4211)

(f) the Welsh OYce and the OYce of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Schools inWales; (4216)

(g) the Inland Revenue; (4220)(h) Her Majesty’s Customs and Excise; (4219)

(ii) Departmental Report on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2000 by theDepartment of Social Security; (4214)

5. Modernising Government—Modernising Government: Government Proposals. (4310)

3. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1999;

(1005)2. Draft Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984 (Amendment) Order 1999;3. Draft Local Authority (Stocks and Bonds) (Amendment) Regulations 1999.

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Fair Employment (Monitoring) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the

Northern Ireland Act 1974; (148)2. Social Security (Contributions) Amendment (No. 3) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (975)3. Anti-Pollution Works Regulations 1999, laid under the Water Resources Act 1991;

(1006)4. Sweeteners in Food (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act

1990; (982)5. Road Humps and TraYc Calming (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under

the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984; (1000)6. Health Authorities (England) Establishment Order 1996 Amendment and the

Cambridgeshire and Norfolk Health Authorities (Establishment etc.) Order 1999, laidunder the National Health Service Act 1977; (1024)

Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Windlesham, L.

Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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7. Education (Inspection of Vocational Training) (Prescribed Persons and Bodies Awardingor Authenticating Vocational Qualifications) Regulations, laid under the Teaching andHigher Education Act 1998; (963)

8. Highway Litter Clearance and Cleaning (Transfer of Responsibility) (North WestLeicestershire and South Derbyshire) Order 1999, laid under the EnvironmentalProtection Act 1990; (1007)

9. Social Security Contributions (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 1999, laid under theSocial Security Contributions (Transfer of Functions, etc.) Act 1999; (1027)

10. Civil Procedure (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Civil Procedure Act 1997;(1008)

11. High Court and County Courts (Allocation of Arbitration Proceedings) (Amendment)Order 1999, laid under the Arbitration Act 1996; (1010)

12. Contracting Out of Functions (Court StaV) Order 1999, laid under the Courts Act 1971;(1013)

13. Family Proceedings (Miscellaneous Amendments) Rules 1999, laid under theMatrimonial and Family Proceedings Act 1984; (1012)

14. Non-Contentious Probate (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Supreme Court Act1981; (1015)

15. Court Funds (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Administration of Justice Act1982; (1021)

16. High Court and County Courts Jurisdiction (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under theCourts and Legal Services Act 1990; (1014)

17. (i) Highways (Road Humps) Regulations 1999— (1025)(ii) Highways (TraYc Calming) Regulations 1999— (1026)

laid under the Highways Act 1980.

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Commission for Racial Equality, together with the Report

of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Race Relations Act 1976;2. Costs, Sentencing Profiles and the Scottish Criminal Justice System 1997, laid under the

Police (Scotland) Act 1967;3. European Parliamentary Elections (Day of Poll) Order 1999, laid under the European

Parliamentary Elections Act 1978. (949)

Select Committee Reports

6. Parliamentary privilege—The Report from the Joint Committee was made; it was ordered that theReport be printed, together with the minutes of proceedings and minutes of evidence. (HLPaper 43—I, II and III).

7. Statutory Instruments—The 14th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:Draft General Teaching Council for Wales (Constitution) Regulations 1999;Draft General Teaching Council for England (Constitution) Regulations 1999;Draft European Parliamentary Elections Regulations 1999;it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 46)

Private Business

8. University College London Bill—The bill was brought from the Commons, read a first time andreferred to the Examiners.

Public Business

9. Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl]—A bill to amend section 63 of the Road TraYcRegulation Act 1984; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Rotherwick, reada first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 43)

10. Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notesrelating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 43–EN)

11. Academic and Academic-Related StaV Pay and Conditions Bill [hl]—A bill to make provisionwith respect to the remuneration, recruitment, retention and other conditions of employmentof academic and academic-related staV; and for connected purposes was presented by theLord McCarthy, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 44)

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12. House of Lords Bill—The debate was resumed on the motion that the bill be now read a secondtime, to which an amendment had been moved at end to insert (“but this House regrets thatthe bill radically alters the historic composition of the House of Lords for party politicaladvantage, without consultation or consensus on the successor House’s role and compositionand without making it more democratic”); after further debate, the amendment was agreed to(see division list); then the original motion, as amended, was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned at nine minutes past three o’clockin the morning of Wednesday 31st March

till later the same day, half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISION

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the bill be now read a second time; then it wasmoved by the Lord Cobbold, as an amendment thereto, at the end to insert (“but this House regretsthat the bill radically alters the historic composition of the House of Lords for party political advantage,without consultation or consensus on the successor House’s role and composition and without makingit more democratic”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 192

Not-Contents … … … … … 126

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Arran, E.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Baker of Dorking, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Boston, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Braybrooke, L.Bridgeman, V.Bruntisfield, L.Buchan, E.Buckinghamshire, E.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carew, L.Carrington, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.

Clitheroe, L.Cobbold, L. [Teller]Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cowley, E.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Digby, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dunleath, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Exmouth, V.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falmouth, V.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Glenarthur, L.Goschen, V.Gray, L.

Greenway, L.Haddington, E.Hankey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Hemphill, L.Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Howe of Aberavon, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jopling, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mills, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.

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Moran, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L. [Teller]Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Pender, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blakenham, V.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.

Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pike, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Radnor, E.Reay, L.Rennell, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Rodney, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Saatchi, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.

Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hattersley, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennet, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Melchett, L.Monkswell, L.Montrose, D.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Patel, L.Parry, L.

Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Tryon, L.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Waterford, M.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Young, B.Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wrenbury, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Broadbridge, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.

Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Eatwell, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.

Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.

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Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rollo, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.

St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Judicial Business

1. Governor and Company of the Bank of Scotland (Respondents) v. Bennett and another(Petitioner)—The petition of Jane Christine Bennett praying for leave to appealnotwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Stannifer Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Glasgow Development Agency and others(Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodgingthe statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 14thApril next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Atomic Energy—Additional to the agreement between the United Kingdom, the

European Atomic Energy Community and the International Atomic Energy Agency forthe application of safeguards in the United Kingdom in connection with the Treaty onthe Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, together with an explanatory memorandum;

(4282)2. Finance—

(i) Departmental Report on the Government’s Expenditure Plans for 1999–2002 by theForeign and Commonwealth OYce; (4209)

(ii) Public Services for the Future: Modernisation, Reform, Accountability: March 1999supplement to the Comprehensive Spending Review public service agreements1999–2002; (4315)

(iii) Public Expenditure Statistical Analyses for 1999–2000; (4201)3. Social Services—Social Services: Building for the Future: Government proposals for

Wales; (4051)4. Government Response to the memorandum of inquiry by the House of Commons

Environment, Transport and Regional AVairs Committee on Regional EurostarServices; (4314)

5. Senior salaries—(i) Report of the senior salaries review body on initial pay, allowances, pensions and

severance arrangements for Members of the Scottish Parliament, the NationalAssembly for Wales and the Northern Ireland Assembly; (4188)

(ii) Report of the senior salaries review body on Devolution: salaries for Ministers andoYce-holders and oYce support for Members and Parliamentary DevelopmentRecommendations; (4246)

6. Industry—Report of the 2nd Wood Committee on the Rating of Plant and Machinery inIndustries currently subject to Prescribed Assessment; (4283)

7. National Minimum Wage—The National Minimum Wage Accommodation OVset: AReview by the Low Pay Commission. (4321)

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Right to Time OV for Study or Training Regulations 1999, laid under the Employment

Rights Act 1996; (986)2. Insolvency (Amendment) (No. 2) Rules 1999, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986;

(1022)3. Insolvent Companies (Disqualification of Unfit Directors) Proceedings (Amendment)

Rules 1999, laid under the Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986; (1023)4. Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Removal of Judges) Order

1999, laid under the Scotland Act 1998; (1017)5. Planning (Control of Major-Accident Hazards) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Planning (Hazardous Substances) Act 1990; (981)

Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

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6. Non-Road Mobile Machinery (Type Approval) (Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under theFinance Act 1973; (1054)

7. Non-Road Mobile Machinery (Emission of Gaseous and Particulate Pollutants)Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (1053)

8. Prescription Only Medicines (Human Use) Amendment Order 1999, laid under theMedicines Act 1968; (1044)

9. (i) Street Works Register (Registration Fees) Regulations 1999— (1048)(ii) Street Works (Registers, Notices, Directions and Designations) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999— (1049)laid under the New Roads and Street Works Act 1991.

5. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Notice of call-out of members of the Royal Fleet Reserve, the Royal Naval Reserve, the

Royal Marines Reserve, the Army Reserve, the Territorial Army, the Royal Air ForceReserve and the Royal Auxiliary Air Force, laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996;

2. Treasury Minute dated 31st March 1999 on the application of certain receipts asappropriations in aid of sums appropriated from the Scottish Consolidated Fund for1999–2000, laid under the Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions)(Finance) Order 1999;

3. Treasury Minute dated 31st March 1999 on the application of certain receipts asappropriations in aid of the votes specified in the estimates for 1999–2000, laid under thePublic Accounts and Charges Act 1891.

Select Committee Reports

6. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:11th Report, on the following bills:Parliamentary Government Bill [hl];European Tax Harmonisation Veto Bill [hl]. (HL Paper 47)

7. Liaison—The First Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); it was orderedthat the Report be printed. (HL Paper 49)

Public Business

8. European Community Legislation (Impact) Bill [hl]—A bill to require the provision ofinformation on the impact of European Community legislation was presented by the LordWilloughby de Broke, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 45)

9. Standing Orders (Public Business)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that theStanding Orders relating to public business be amended as follows:Standing Order 32, line 4, after (“sitting”) insert (“other than a Friday”)Standing Order 51(4), line 1, leave out (“six”) and insert (“eight”);the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that the amendments be printed. (HL Paper48)

10. Motor vehicle crime (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Campbell of Croy that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the amount of crime in the United Kingdom involvingtheft of road vehicles or breaking into them to steal the contents; after debate, the motion was(by leave of the House) withdrawn.

11. Design (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Freyberg that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the role of design in improving competitiveness and quality of life; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

The House was adjourned at three minutes past seven o’clockto Monday 12th April, half-past two o’clock.

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APPENDIX

LIAISON COMMITTEE

FIRST REPORT SESSION 1998–99

WEDNESDAY 31 MARCH 1999

By the Select Committee appointed to advise the House on the resources required for select committeework and to allocate resources between select committees; to review the select commitee work of theHouse; to consider requests for ad hoc committees and report to the House with recommendations; toensure eVective co-ordination between the two Houses; and to consider the availability of Lords to serveon committees.

Ordered to Report

Future committee activity1. The Committee has given further consideration to the future committee work of the House. OurSecond Report, Session 1997–98, noted proposals including:

(1) a new committee on Overseas Trade to review developments since the last committee on that subjectreported in 1985;

(2) the retention of a sixth sub-committee of the European Communities Committee, addedexperimentally in 1996;

(3) a committee with functions relating to human rights;

(4) the introduction of pre-legislative scrutiny.

2. In addition, the following further proposals have now been put to us:

(5) a joint committee on House of Lords Reform, after the Royal Commission has reported;

(6) a committee to scrutinise treaties;

(7) a select committee on the Obscenity Bill [hl] introduced by the Earl of Halsbury.

3. We understand that the Clerk of the Parliaments plans to strengthen the staV resources available toserve committees, but that recruitment of additional clerks will not be possible before the autumn.Moreover, the availability of Lords to serve on committees and of accommodation to house additionalstaV are factors which limit the possible expansion of committee activity.

4. We propose to meet again before the summer recess to consider further what new committee activityto recommend.

Obscenity Bill

5. At this stage we recommend that the Obscenity Bill [hl] should not be referred to a select committee.In view of the competing pressures we consider it inappropriate that resources should be devoted to acommittee on a bill with no realistic chance of becoming law.

Scrutiny of treaties

6. A strong case was put to us for the appointment of a committee to scrutinise treaties. But we havenoted that the Royal Commission on Reform of the House of Lords has, in its consultation paper issuedearlier this month, explicitly posed the question whether the second chamber should play a greater rolein the scrutiny of draft treaties. We have therefore concluded that it would not be timely to appoint sucha committee in advance of the recommendations of the Royal Commission.

Pre-legislative scrutiny

7. A joint committee on the draft Financial Services and Markets Bill was appointed at the beginningof March, with terms of reference requiring it to report by the end of April. We understand that theGovernment is likely to propose further pre-legislative scrutiny of this kind, for example in relation tothe draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill published with the White Paper LocalLeadership, Local Choice (Cm 4298).

8. In principle we welcome the involvement of this House in pre-legislative scrutiny. But in view of thepressure for other committee activity we hope that it will be possible to co-ordinate the appointment ofsimilar committees in future and to give reasonable notice in each case. Because of the variety of subjectmatter of draft bills, we endorse the appointment of an ad hoc committee for each draft bill.

9. We were informed by the Chairman of the Delegated Powers and Deregulation Committee that thatcommittee had accepted an invitation from the joint committee on the draft Financial Services andMarkets Bill to submit a memorandum on the delegated powers in the bill. We welcome thisdevelopment, and we hope that the example may be followed in future. When a draft bill is madeavailable for pre-legislative scrutiny, it can only be beneficial for the delegated powers to be subject toscrutiny at an early stage.

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Government replies to Reports from the Delegated Powers and Deregulation Committee10. We have considered the recommendation made in paragraph 50 of the Special Report from theDelegated Powers and Deregulation Committee, Session 1997–98. That recommendation related to theexamination of bills by the Delegated Powers and Deregulation Committee. After welcoming thepractice of some Government Departments of responding in writing to the Committee’srecommendations, the Committee went on: “We invite the Liaison Committee to consider whether allDeaprtments should, in future, respond succinctly in writing to those recommendations from thisCommittee for which they are responsible. We consider that it could assist the House’s deliberations ifsuch letter were routinely made available to front-bench spokesmen on the Bill in question, and placedin the Library of the House”.11. We endorse this recommendation, including the proposal that copies of responses should beprovided to front-bench spokesmen and placed in the Library of the House. Whereas responses toreports from other committees are expected to be produced within two months (or six months in thecase of the Science and Technology Committee), it would not be appropriate to lay down a time limitfor such responses. They need to be made in good time for amendments to be tabled to the bill inquestion. In some cases that will require Departments to act within a few days, and we recognise thatoccasionally the timetable for the passage of a bill may make the provision of a written responseimpracticable.

Die Lunae 12) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.

Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.

Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.

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Erne, E.Erroll, E.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.

Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McCluskey, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.

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Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Wednesday 14thApril.

Judicial Business

2. Scandecor Development AB (Appellants) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others (Respondents)and one other action (England)—The appeal of Scandecor Development AB and Panther &Scandecor Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 24th May next (lodged 31stMarch).

3. O’Loughlin (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Essex (Appellant) (England)—The appeal of theChief Constable of Essex was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 24th May next.

4. Surzur Overseas Limited (Respondents) v. Koros and others (Petitioners)—The petition ofEstathios Topouzoglou, Constantinos Emmanuel and Evangelos Emmanuel praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 24th March).

5. Anderton (A.P.) (by her mother and next friend) (Petitioner) v. Clwyd County Council(Respondents)—The petition of Rhiannon Anderton praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate waslodged (lodged 31st March).

6. Wurttembergische Aktiengesellschaft Versicherungs-Beteiligungsgesellchaft (formerlyWurttembergische Feuerversicherung AG) and another (Petitioners) v. Home InsuranceCompany (Respondents)—The petition of Wurttembergische AktiengesellschaftVersicherungs-Beteiligungsgesellchaft and Wurttembergische Versicherung AG praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 8th April).

7. Regina v. The Family Health Services Appeal Authority and Boots the Chemists (Respondents)ex parte E Moss Limited (Petitioner)—The petition of E Moss Limited praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

8. Paragon Finance plc (formerly known as National Home Loans plc) and others(Respondents) v. Freshfields (a Firm) (Petitioners)—The petition of Freshfields (a Firm)praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

9. Regina v. Ghadami (Petitioner)—The petition of Mohammed Reza Ghadami, praying for anextension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal inaccordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968, was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

10. Head and others (A.P.) (Appellants) (formerly Docker and others (A.P.) (Appellants) v. ChiefConstable of the West Midlands Police (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearingand referred to an Appellate Committee.

11. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal)—

Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.

Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

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12. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal)—The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed tolodge separate statements, cases and one appendix in respect of the two appeals and that therespondents have leave to lodge separate cases in respect of the two appeals and be separatelyrepresented (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

13. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal)—

14. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal)—(Conjoined Appeals)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendixand setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 27th May next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

15. Goodes (A.P.) (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants)—The respondent’slegal aid certificate was lodged.

16. Birmingham City Council (Petitioners) v. Oakley (A.P.) (Respondent)—The respondent’s legalaid certificate was lodged.

Papers

17. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Treaty Series—Fourth supplementary list of ratifications, accessions, withdrawals, etc.

for 1998; (7th April) (4297)2. Air Services—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Sri Lanka concerning air

services; (9th April) (4319)3. Monopolies and Mergers Commission—Report on the proposed merger between British

Sky Broadcasting PLC and Manchester United PLC. (9th April) (4305)

18. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following instruments, having been laid beforethe House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:

S.I. No. Date ofTitle, etc. 1999 laying

Negative instruments(i) St Mary’s Music School (Aided Places) Amendment 1060 1st April

Regulations 1999—

(ii) Education (Assisted Places) (Scotland) Amendment 1059 1st AprilRegulations 1999—

laid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1980;

Right to Time OV for Study or Training (Scotland) Regulations 1999, 1058 1st Aprillaid under the Employment Rights Act 1996;

National Health Service (General Medical Services) (Scotland) 1057 1st AprilAmendment (No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid under the NationalHealth Service (Scotland) Act 1978;

A720 (Edinburgh City Bypass) Special Road (Prohibition of TraYc 1061 1st Aprilon Hard Shoulders) Regulations 1999, laid under the Road TraYcRegulation Act 1984;

School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Admission and 1064 1st AprilStandard Numbers) (Modification) Regulations 1999, laid underthe School Standards and Framework Act 1998;

Registered Housing Associations (Accounting Requirements) 1073 6th April(Scotland) Order 1999, laid under the Housing Associations Act1985;

(i) Police (Conduct) (Senior OYcers) (Scotland) Regulations 1074 6th April1999—

(ii) Police (Conduct) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999— 1072 6th April

laid under the Police (Scotland) Act 1967;

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S.I. No. Date ofTitle, etc. 1999 laying

Education (Induction Arrangements for School Teachers) (England) 1065 6th AprilRegulations 1999, laid under the Teaching and Higher EducationAct 1998;

Education (Information as to Provision of Education) (England) 1066 6th AprilRegulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1996;

Education (Lower Primary Class Sizes) (Scotland) Regulations 1999, 1080 7th Aprillaid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1980;

Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (Variation of Schedule 9) Order 1002 7th April1999, laid under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981;

Council Tax (Reductions for Disabilities) (Amendment) Regulations 1004 7th April1999, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;

Plant Breeders’ Rights (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid 1089 8th Aprilunder the Plant Varieties Act 1997;

Seeds (National Lists of Varieties) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1090 8th April1999, laid under the Plant Varieties and Seeds Act 1964;

National Assembly for Wales (Assembly Members) (Salaries) 1083 8th April(Limitation) Order 1999, laid under the Government of WalesAct 1998;

(i) Sex Discrimination (Gender Reassignment) Regulations 1999— 1102 9th April

(ii) Bovines and Bovine Products (Trade) Regulations 1999— 1103 9th April

laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

Local Authorities (Members’ Allowances) (Amendment) (No.2) 1087 9th AprilRegulations 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1972;

Local Authorities (Direct Labour Organisations) (Competition) 1084 9th April(Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the LocalGovernment, Planning and Land Act 1980;

(i) Patents (Fees) (Amendment) Rules 1999— 1093 9th April

(ii) Patents (Amendment) Rules 1999— 1092 9th April

laid under the Patents Act 1977.

19. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of East Sussex)

(Borough of Hastings) Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (1112)2. Pesticides (Maximum Residue Levels in Crops, Food and Feeding StuVs) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (1109)3. Civil Legal Aid (General) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Legal Aid Act

1988; (1113)4. (i) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Salaries and

Allowances) Order 1999— (1097)(ii) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Administration of the

Parliament) Order 1999— (1098)(iii) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Statutory Instruments)

Order 1999— (1096)(iv) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Scottish Parliamentary

Pension Scheme) Order 1999— (1082)(v) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Standing Orders and

Parliamentary Publications) Order 1999— (1095)(vi) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Grants to Members and

OYceholders) Order 1999— (1081)laid under the Scotland Act 1998;

5. District Salmon Fishery Boards Order 1999, laid under the Salmon Act 1986. (1111)

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20. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by:(i) Hastings & Rother National Health Service Trust from Lloyds Bank plc—(ii) Norfolk Mental Health Care National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—(iii) Local Health Partnerships National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(iv) Scunthorpe Community Health National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank

plc—(v) Essex Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc,

with eVect from 30th March—(vi) Essex Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc,

with eVect from 1st April—(vii) Avon & Western Wiltshire Mental Health Care National Health Service Trust from

National Westminster Bank plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;

2. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) (No. 2) Order1998 Partial Revocation (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Food and EnvironmentProtection Act 1985. (1067)

21. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) (No. 2) Order 1998Partial Revocation (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act1985.

Public Business

22. Tax Credits Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the bill be now read asecond time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

23. Local Government Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be now read a second time;after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

The House was adjourned at one minute past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 13) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.

Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.

Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bath and Wells, Bp.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Berkeley, L.

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Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Broadbridge, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.

Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Cranworth, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughmore, E.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elis-Thomas, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.

Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Foot, L.Forbes, L.Forte, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.GiVord, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grantley, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.

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Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manchester, Bp.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.

Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Parry, L.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Prys-Davies, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rix, L.Robertson of Oakridge, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.

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Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Preston Candover, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Southwell, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Appellants)—The petition ofthe appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 27th April next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Foreign AVairs—Government Response to the 2nd Report of the House of Commons

Foreign AVairs Committee, on Sierra Leone; (4325)2. Comprehensive Spending Review—Public Services for the Future: Modernisation,

Reform, Accountability: summary of Departmental Investment Strategies. (4324)

3. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Civil Procedure (Modification of Enactments) Order 1999;2. Draft European Parliamentary Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations

1999;3. Draft Potato Industry Development Council (Amendment) Order 1999.

4. Deregulation—The following document was laid before the House under section 3(3) of theDeregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the Delegated Powers andDeregulation Committee:Proposal for the Draft Deregulation (New Year Licensing) Order 1999.

Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torphichen, L.Torrington, V.

Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Fish Producers’ Organisations (Formation Grants) Regulations 1999— (1110)

(ii) Public OVers of Securities (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1999— (1146)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

2. (i) Draft Code of Practice on LEA-School Relations— (—)(ii) Education (Nursery Education and Early Years Development) (Wales) Regulations

1999— (1099)laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;

3. Magistrates’ Courts (Forms) (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Magistrates’Courts Act 1980. (1149)

4. (i) Transfer of Property etc. (Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body) Order 1999—(1106)

(ii) Transfer of Property etc. (Scottish Ministers) Order 1999— (1104)laid under the Scotland Act 1998;

5. Parole Board (Scotland) Amendment Rules 1999, laid under the Prisoners and CriminalProceedings (Scotland) Act 1993; (1116)

6. (i) National Health Service Trusts (Membership and Procedure) (Scotland)Amendment Regulations 1999— (1133)

(ii) Health Boards (Membership and Procedure) (No. 2) Amendment Regulations1999— (1132)laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;

7. Students’ Allowances (Scotland) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education (Scotland)Act 1980. (1131)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1st January–28 February 1999 of the North Hull Housing Action Trust, laid

under the Housing Act 1988;2. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Act 1997;3. Report for 1997–98 of the Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales, laid under

the Prison Act 1952.

Select Committee Report

7. Procedure of the House—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); itwas ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 52)

Public Business

8. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl]—A bill to make new provision in relation to areasof outstanding natural beauty was presented by the Lord Renton of Mount Harry, read a firsttime and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 46)

9. Time Zones and Summer Time (Devolution) Bill [hl]—A bill to devolve to the Scottish Parliamentand the National Assembly for Wales power to set time zones and summer time in Scotlandand Wales respectively was presented by the Lord Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, read a firsttime and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 47)

10. Employment Relations Bill—A bill to amend the law relating to employment, to trade unions andto employment agencies and businesses was brought from the Commons, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 48)

11. Employment Relations Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 48–EN)

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington, that Standing Order 38 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with onThursday next to allow the motion standing in the name of the Lord Williams of Mostyn tobe taken first after the Chairman of Committees’ business; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

13. Scottish Enterprise Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.

14. Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.

15. Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.

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16. Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; a privilegeamendment was agreed to; then after debate the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.

17. European Parliamentary Elections (Gibraltar) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment wasdischarged.

18. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The bill was re-committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

19. Sexual OVences (Amendment) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that the bill benow read a second time; then it was moved by the Baroness Young, as an amendment thereto,to leave out (“now”) and at end insert (“this day six months”); after debate, the amendmentwas agreed to (see division list).

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past midnightin the morning of Wednesday 14th April till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISION

SEXUAL OFFENCES (AMENDMENT) BILLIt was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that the bill be now read a second time; then it was movedby the Baroness Young, as an amendment thereto, to leave out (“now”) and at the end to insert (“thisday six months”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 222

Not-Contents … … … … … 146

CONTENTS

Ahmed, L.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Ampthill, L.Annaly, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Berners, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brigstocke, B.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caldecote, V.Canterbury, Abp.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Chadlington, L.

Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Coleridge, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Davies of Coity, L.De L’Isle, V.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughmore, E.Downshire, M.Dulverton, L.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Exmouth, V.Falmouth, V.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Gage, V.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.

Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenarthur, L.Grantley, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hogg, B.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Islwyn, L.Keith of Castleacre, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.

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Lauderdale, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Manchester, Bp.Manton, L.Marlesford, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.Alderdice, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bath, M.Bath and Wells, Bp.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birmingham, Bp.Bledisloe, V.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chandos, V.Clancarty, E.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Colville of Culross, V.Craigavon, V.Cranbrook, E.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.

Northesk, E.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Quirk, L.Rawlings, B.Reading, M.Reay, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Robertson of Oakridge, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Saatchi, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Southwell, Bp.Stair, E.

David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dubs, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Freyberg, L. [Teller]Garel-Jones, L.GiVord, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hamwee, B.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hattersley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B. [Teller]Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.

Stallard, L. [Teller]Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Tollemache, L.Torphichen, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchester, Bp.Wynford, L.Young, B. [Teller]

Inchyra, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Lawrence, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lockwood, B.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Ludford, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Monkswell, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Norton of Louth, L.Oxford, Bp.

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Patel, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Quinton, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

APPENDIX

Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Smith of Clifton, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.

Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Die Mercurii 14) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Broadbridge, L.

Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chilver, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.

Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Durham, Bp.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.

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Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.

Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.

Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ridley, V.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.

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Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Holland (Appellant) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent)—The petition of the appellant praying thatthe time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing mightbe extended to 26th May next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

2. Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’s BenefitsPlan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, The Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-CanadianMaster Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) and others(Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Appellants) and others—Thepetition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 12th May next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Health—Government Response to the first Report of the House of Commons Health

Committee on the Relationship between Health and Social Services; (4320)2. Law—

(i) Protocol— (4186)(ii) Convention— (4187)on the interpretation by the Court of Justice of the European Communities of theConvention on Jurisdiction and the Recognition and Enforcement of Judgments inMatrimonial Matters.

4. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Aeroplane Noise Regulations 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. National Assembly for Wales (Oath of Allegiance in Welsh) Order 1999, laid under the

Government of Wales Act 1998; (1101)2. Northern Ireland Science Park Foundation Limited (Funding) Order (Northern Ireland)

1999, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1974; (—)3. Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999, laid under the Water Industry Act 1991;

(1148)4. Consular Relations (Merchant Shipping) (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)

(Revocation) Order 1999, laid under the Consular Relations Act 1968. (1124)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of temporary

borrowing by South Buckinghamshire National Health Service Trust from MidlandBank plc, laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;

Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.

Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.

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2. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Apple and Pear Research Council, laid underthe Industrial Organisation and Development Act 1947.

Select Committee Report

7. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:12th Report, on the following bills:

Local Government Bill;Tax Credits Bill;Academic and Academic-Related StaV Pay and Conditions Bill [hl];Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl];

and requesting evidence on the proposal for the Draft Deregulation (New Year Licensing)Order 1999. (HL Paper 51)

Public Business

8. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of theLord Whitty, that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the billhas been re-committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clause 1 Schedules 2 and 3Schedule 1 Clause 4;Clauses 2 and 3

the motion was agreed to.

9. Taxation and public expenditure—It was moved by the Lord Skidelsky that there be laid beforethe House papers relating to current levels of taxation and public expenditure and theirconsequences; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

10. Armenian massacre 1915—The Baroness Cox asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willreconsider their refusal to recognise as genocide the action against the Armenian people byTurkey in 1915; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale.

The House was adjourned at two minutes before seven o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

Die Jovis 15) Aprilis 1999

The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.

Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackwell, L.

Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.

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Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dundonald, E.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.

Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hattersley, L.Hawke, L.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.

Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.

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Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Portsmouth, E.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Appellant) ex parte Kebeline and others(Respondents) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—Theappeal of the Director of Public Prosecutions was presented and ordered to be prosecutedsubject to the procedures applicable thereto.

2. Phillips (Liquidator of A J Bekhor & Company) and another (Respondents) v. Brewin DolphinBell Lawrie Limited (Formerly Brewin Dolphin & Company Limited) (Petitioners) andanother—The petition of Brewin Dolphin Bell Lawrie Limited praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.

Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying thatthe time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing mightbe extended to 6th May next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 10th May next (theagents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Stannifer Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Glasgow Development Agency and others(Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodgingthe statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 28thApril next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed (lodged 14th April).

6. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 24th Report:Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—Thatleave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 29th April next.

Papers

7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Visiting Forces and International Headquarters (Application of Law) Order 1999;2. Draft International Headquarters and Defence Organisations (Designation and

Privileges) (Amendment) Order 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Environment Act 1995 (Consequential Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Environment Act 1995; (1108)2. Welsh Language Schemes (Public Bodies) Order 1999, laid under the Welsh Language

Act 1993; (1100)3. Motorways TraYc (M621 Motorway) Regulations 1999, laid under the Road TraYc

Regulation Act 1984. (1077)

9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report for 1997–98 of the Commonwealth Scholarship Commission in the United Kingdom,laid under the Overseas Development and Co-operation Act 1980.

Private Business

10. University College London Bill—The Examiners certificate that no further standing order isapplicable was ordered to lie on the Table.

Public Business

11. House of Lords’ OYces Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the LordMorris of Castle Morris be appointed a member of the Select Committee in the place of thelate Lord Dean of Beswick; the motion was agreed to.

12. Stephen Lawrence Enquiry—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that this House takenote of the report of the Stephen Lawrence Enquiry (Cm 4262); after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

13. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Euro-Mediterranean Agreement establishing anAssociation between the European Communities and their Member States and the HashemiteKingdom of Jordan) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Deanthat the draft Order laid before the House on 8th February be approved; the motion wasagreed to.

14. TraYc Areas (Reorganisation) (Wales) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington ofRibbleton that the Order laid before the House on 10th March be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

15. Carriage by Air Acts (Implementation of Protocol No. 4 of Montreal, 1975) Order 1999—

16. Carriage by Air Acts (Application of Provisions) (Fifth Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Orders laid before theHouse on 18th March be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

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17. Housing—The Lord Ezra asked Her Majesty’s Government to what extent the refurbishment ofhouses in poor condition has been taken into account in the Government’s plans foradditional housing; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Farrington ofRibbleton.

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes before ten o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 19) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.

Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.

David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.

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Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.

Levy, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.

Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Thursday 22nd April.

Judicial Business

2. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts(Petitioners)—The petition of the Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Derry (Petitioner) v. Ministry of Defence (Respondents)—The petition of Andrew John Derrypraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Raja (Petitioner) v. Rubin (Supervisor of the voluntary arrangement) and another(Respondents)—The petition of Manish Raja praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of Justice was presented praying that they might intervene in theappeal by way of written submissions (the agents for the appellant and respondent consentingthereto) and was referred to an Appeal Committee.

6. In re Gilligan (Appellant) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus) (On appeal from a DivisionalCourt of the Queen’s Bench Division)—

7. In re Ellis (Appellant) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus) (On appeal from a DivisionalCourt of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be conjoined, that they be allowed tolodge separate statements, cases and one appendix in respect of the two appeals and that therespondents have leave to lodge separate cases in respect of the two appeals (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

8. Goodes (A.P.) (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants)—The petition of theappellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 2nd June next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

9. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on 16th April, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Corruption—Convention on the Fight Against Corruption Involving OYcials of the

European Communities or OYcials of Member States of the European Union, togetherwith an explanatory memorandum; (4266)

2. Finance—(i) Protocol on the Protection of the European Communities’ Financial Interests;

(4303)(ii) 2nd Protocol on the Protection of the European Communities’ Financial Interests,

together with an explanatory memorandum; (4267)

Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.

Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

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(iii) Convention on the Protection of the European Communities’ Financial Interests,together with an explanatory memorandum; (4302)

(iv) Protocol on the interpretation, by way of preliminary rulings, by the Court of Justiceof the European Communities of the Convention on the Protection of the EuropeanCommunities’ Financial Interests with Declaration. (4304)

10. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 16th April, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Education (School Performance Information) (England) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Education Act 1996; (1178)2. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations

1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (1153)3. Beef Special Premium (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972. (1179)

11. Deregulation—The following document was laid before the House under section 3(3) of theDeregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the Delegated Powers andDeregulation Committee:Proposal for the draft Deregulation (Casinos) Order 1999.

12. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Merchant

Shipping Act 1995; (1063)2. Housing (Right to Acquire) (Discount) Order 1999, laid under the Housing Act 1996.

(1135)

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Law Commission Report on Damages for Personal Injury: Non–Pecuniary Loss, laid

under the Law Commissions Act 1965;2. Accounts for 1996–97 and 1997–98 of the National Debt Commissioners Gilt–edged

OYcial Operations, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General,laid under the Finance Act 1993;

3. Account for 1997–98 of Grants and Loans to the Housing Action Trusts, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Housing Act 1988.

Public Business

14. Water Industry Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that it be an instruction to the Committeeof the Whole House to whom the bill has been committed that they consider the bill in thefollowing order:

Clause 1 Clauses 13 to 15Schedule 1 Schedules 3 and 4Clauses 2 to 12 Clauses 16 and 17;Schedule 2

the motion was agreed to.

15. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee (on Re-commitment) upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list);the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that thebill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 49)

16. EMU—It was moved by the Lord Simon of Highbury that this House take note of theGovernment’s outline proposals for a National Changeover Plan for EMU; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at three minutes before eight o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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DIVISION

POLLUTION PREVENTION AND CONTROL BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Renton, in Schedule 3, page 10, line 11, column 3, to leave out (“Sections 1to 28”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee (on Re-commitment) divided:

Contents … … … … … … 104

Not-Contents … … … … … 136

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Coleridge, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Crickhowell, L.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.

EYngham, E.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gray of Contin, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harrowby, E.Henley, L. [Teller]HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hylton-Foster, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Kingsdown, L.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Marlesford, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.

Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.

Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Norrie, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Quinton, L.Renton, L.Rotherwick, L.St. Davids, V.Seccombe, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Teynham, L.Thurlow, L.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wilcox, B.

Gilbert, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hooson, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.

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Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kirkhill, L.Leathers, V.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.

Die Martis 20) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.

Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Northfield, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Patel, L.Paul, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birmingham, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.

Roll of Ipsden, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stair, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.

Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Byron, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.

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Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.

Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flathers, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.GiVord, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamlyn, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.

Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hattersley, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Head, V.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.James of Holland Park, B.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kindersley, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.

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Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rix, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saint Levan, L.Salisbury, Bp.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerleyton, L.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwell, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Housing Benefit Review Board of the City of Westminster (Petitioners) ex parteMehanne (Respondent)—The petition of the Housing Benefit Review Board of the City ofWestminster praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee(lodged 19th January).

2. Satnam Investments Limited (Petitioners) v. Dunlop Heywood & Co Limited and others(Respondents)—The petition of Satnam Investments Limited praying for leave to appealnotwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Senate Electrical Wholesalers Limited (Petitioners) v. STC Submarine Systems Limited(Respondents) and another—Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that therebe no order as to costs.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Contingent Liability—Minute by the Department of Economic Development (NorthernIreland) concerning the Action for Community Employment core workers’ statutoryredundancy payment. (—)

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Land in Care Scheme (Tir Gofal) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1176)

(ii) Countryside Access (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1174)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

2. Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Wales) Designation Orders (Amendment) Order 1999,laid under the Agriculture Act 1986. (1175)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of

temporary borrowing by:(i) Phoenix National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bank plc—(ii) Royal Berkshire and Battle Hospitals National Health Service Trust from Lloyds

Bank plc—laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.

Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. Report for 1998 of the Ancient Monuments Board for Scotland, laid under the AncientMonuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979.

7. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1999, laidunder the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985.

Select Committee Report

8. Statutory Instruments—The 15th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1999;Draft Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984 (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Local Authority (Stocks and Bonds) (Amendment) Regulations 1999;Draft Civil Procedure (Modification of Enactments) Order 1999;Draft Potato Industry Development Council (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Aeroplane Noise Regulations 1999;Draft European Parliamentary Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations1999;Draft International Headquarters and Defence Organisations (Designation andPrivileges) (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Visiting Forces and International Headquarters (Application of Law) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 53)

Private Business

9. Imperial College Bill—The bill was brought from the Commons, read a first time and referred tothe Examiners.

Public Business

10. House of Lords Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an amendment toan amendment was agreed to; then the original amendment, as amended, was (by leave of theCommittee) withdrawn; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed.

11. India and Pakistan—The Lord Ahmed asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willpromote fresh international initiatives to alleviate the current state of tension between Indiaand Pakistan; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons of VernhamDean.

12. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed afteramendment 10.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.

Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.

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Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burton, L.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chilver, L.Clancarty, E.

Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crawshaw, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.

Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hertford, M.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hives, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.

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Montague of Oxford, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ripon, Bp.

Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

1. Marquess of Hertford—Henry Jocelyn Marquess of Hertford sat first in Parliament after the deathof his father, Hugh Edward Conway Marquess of Hertford, having first taken and subscribedthe oath pursuant to statute.

2. Viscount Eccles—John Dawson Viscount Eccles sat first in Parliament after the death of his father,David McAdam Viscount Eccles, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

Judicial Business

3. Michaels and another (Petitioners) v. Harley House (Marylebone) Limited (Respondents)—Thepetition of Harvey Michaels and Valentina Michaels praying for leave to appeal was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 13th April).

4. Lippiatt and another (Respondents) v. South Gloucestershire Council (as successor authority toAvon County Council) (Petitioners)—The petition of South Gloucestershire Council prayingfor leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Regina v. Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents) ex parte Dundon (Petitioner)—Thepetition of Martin Mathew Patrick Dundon praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding thatthe time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

6. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 2nd Report:Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB)(Respondents) v. Stargas Limited and others (Respondents) and Bergesen D.Y. A/S ‘BergeSisar’ (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodgedby 5th May next.Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB)(Petitioners) v. Stargas Limited and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given,and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May next.

7. Appeal Committee—The 26th Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited) (Respondents)v. Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given, andthat the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May next.Boukssid (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May next.Inco Europe Limited and others (Petitioners) v. First Choice Distribution (a firm) and others(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, reserving all questions as to the jurisdiction ofthe House to entertain the appeal, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 5th May next.

Papers

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Commercial Debts—Exchanges of Notes between the United Kingdom and:

(i) Cameroon— (4316)(ii) Mauritania— (4317)

concerning certain Commercial Debts;2. Double Taxation—Agreements between the United Kingdom and:

(i) Oman— (4318)(ii) Ireland— (4322)for the Avoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with respectto Taxes on Incomes and Capital Gains with Exchange of Notes;

Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Education, Science and Culture—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Latviain the Fields of Education, Science and Culture. (4323)

9. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Framework Agreement for Trade

and Cooperation between the European Community and its Member States and theRepublic of Korea) Order 1999;

2. Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations 1999.

10. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:OVshore Installations (Safety Zones) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Petroleum Act 1987.

(1150)

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1999

Revocation Order 1999, laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985;(1192)

2. Accounts for 1997–98 of Grants and Loans to the Urban Development Corporations,together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the LocalGovernment, Planning and Land Act 1980;

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Army Prize Money and Legacy Funds of the Royal Hospital,Chelsea, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid underthe Chelsea Hospital Act 1876.

Select Committee Reports

12. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:13th Report, on the following bills:

Employment Relations Bill;Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl];Time Zones and Summer Time (Devolution) Bill [hl];European Community Legislation (Impact) Bill [hl];

and inviting evidence on the proposal for the Draft Deregulation (Casinos) Order 1999; (HLPaper 54)14th Report, on the Proposed Extension of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994,with the minutes of evidence. (HL Paper 55)

Private Business

13. United Reformed Church Bill [hl]—The Report from Her Majesty’s Attorney General waspresented.

Public Business

14. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Clinton-Davis set down for today shall be limited to 4 hours;the motion was agreed to.

15. Local Government Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton, on behalf of theLord Whitty, that the order of Commitment of 12th April be discharged and that the bill becommitted to a Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.

16. Rating (Valuation) Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the order ofCommitment of 11th March be discharged and that the bill be committed to a GrandCommittee; the motion was agreed to.

17. EU–US trade (4-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Clinton-Davis that there be laid beforethe House papers relating to trading relations between the European Union and the UnitedStates; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

18. Digital terrestrial television—The Viscount Astor asked Her Majesty’s Government what plansthey have to enable digital terrestrial television to be broadcast throughout the UnitedKingdom; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes past seven o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burton, L.

Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.

Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.

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Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.

Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.

Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

1. Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Lord Wakehurst for theremainder of this Parliament.

Judicial Business

2. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 5th Report:Regina v. West Dorset District Council (Respondents) ex parte Searle (Petitioner)—That thepetition be referred for hearing.

Papers

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Stock Transfer (Gilt-edged Securities) (Exempt Transfer) (Amendment) Regulations

1999— (1210)(ii) Stock Transfer (Gilt-edged Securities) (CGO Service) (Amendment) Regulations—

(1208)laid under the Stock Transfer Act 1982;

2. Financial Markets and Insolvency (CGO Service) Regulations, laid under the CompaniesAct 1989; (1209)

3. Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996 (Audio Recording of Interviews)Order 1999, laid under the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996. (1172)

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Reports for 1998 in respect of sections 1–5 of the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) Act 1967 by:

(i) the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food—(ii) the Secretary of State for Wales—(iii) the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Agriculture, Environment and

Fisheries in Scotland—laid under the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) Act 1967;

2. Report and Accounts for 1998 of the Football Licensing Authority, laid under theFootball Spectators Act 1989.

5. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1999Revocation Order 1999, laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985.

Private Business

6. University College London Bill—The bill was read a second time and committed to an UnopposedBill Committee.

Public Business

7. European Parliamentary Elections (Amendment) Bill [hl]—A bill to amend the EuropeanParliamentary Elections Act 1999 so as to disqualify staV and employees of EuropeanCommunity institutions from standing in United Kingdom elections to the EuropeanParliament was presented by the Earl of Dartmouth, read a first time and ordered to beprinted. (HL Bill 50)

Walpole, L.Waterford, M.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.

Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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8. Liaison Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the First Report from theSelect Committee (HL Paper 49) be agreed to; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

9. Local Government Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that it be an instruction to the GrandCommittee to whom the bill has been committed that they consider the bill in the followingorder:

Clauses 1 to 29 Schedule 2Schedule 1 Clauses 34 and 35;Clauses 30 to 33

the motion was agreed to.

10. Criminal Cases Review (Insanity) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent tothe Commons.

11. European Parliamentary Elections (Gibraltar) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; a privilegeamendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.

12. Scottish Enterprise Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

13. Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; a privilegeamendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.

14. Water Industry Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments weremoved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill wasreported without amendment.

15. Civil Procedure (Modification of Enactments) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntoshof Haringey, on behalf of the Lord Chancellor, that the draft Order laid before the House on13th April be approved; the motion was agreed to.

16. European Parliamentary Elections Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Lord Williams ofMostyn that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 24th March be approved; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

17. Tacis Programme (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Baroness Hilton of Eggardon that thisHouse take note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on Partnership andTrust: The Tacis Programme (33rd Report, Session 1997–98, HL Paper 157); after debate, themotion was agreed to.

18. Indonesia—The Lord Avebury asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps they are taking topromote democracy and human rights in Indonesia; after debate, the question was answeredby the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before eleven o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.

Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blatch, B.Blease, L.

Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buckinghamshire, E.

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Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.

Ely, Bp.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.

Janner of Braunstone, L.JeVreys, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.

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Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Petitioner) ex parte Gashi(Respondent)—The petition of the Secretary of State for the Home Department praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Hamilton (Respondent) v. Al Fayed (Petitioner)—The petition of Mohamed Al Fayed prayingfor leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Designers Guild Limited (Petitioners) v. Russell Williams (Textiles) Limited (trading asWashington DC) (Respondents)—The petition of Designers Guild Limited praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Craig (OYcial Receiver and Liquidator of the Hinckley Island Hotel Limited) and others(Respondents) v. Spence and another (Petitioners)—The petition of Christine Anne Spenceand Michael Peter Hicks praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of thefee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII;the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 7th July 1998).

5. London Borough of Islington (Respondents) v. Obasa (Petitioner)—The petition ofOlubukunola Obasa praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee,such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; thesaid petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 27th July 1998).

6. Halfpenny (Respondent) v. IGE Medical Systems Limited (Appellants)—The appeal was setdown for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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7. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 25th Report:Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Petitioners) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be given, and thatthe petition of appeal be lodged by 10th May next.Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal begiven, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 10th May next.Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal begiven, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 10th May next.

8. Appeal Committee—The 27th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Ultisol Transport Contractors Limited (Respondents) v. Bouygues OVshore SA, the Ownersof the Barge ‘BOS 400’ (Petitioners) and others—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.Caspian Basin Specialised Salvage Administration and others (Respondents) v. BouyguesOVshore SA, the Owners of the Barge ‘BOS 400’ (Petitioners) and others—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.In re Allison (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave toappeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988.In re Allison (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus) (Second petition)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance withthe Legal Aid Act 1988.In re Hatton (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave toappeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988.British Telecommunications plc (Petitioners) v. Nottinghamshire County Council(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 6.1(e) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.University College London Hospitals NHS Trust (Respondents) v. UNISON (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Craig (OYcial Receiver and Liquidator of the Hinckley Island Hotel Limited) and others(Respondents) v. Spence and another (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.London Borough of Islington (Respondents) v. Obasa (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal berefused.

Papers

9. Command Paper—The following paper, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on 23rd April, was ordered to lie on the Table:Double Taxation—Convention between the United Kingdom and Kazakhstan for theAvoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with respect to Taxes onIncome and Capital Gains. (4326)

10. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Economic Partnership, PoliticalCoordination and Cooperation Agreement between the European Community and itsMember States and the United Mexican States) Order 1999.

11. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 23rd April, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Air Navigation (Fourth Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982;

(1123)2. (i) Education (Chief Inspector of Schools in England) Order 1999— (1121)

(ii) Education (Inspectors of Schools in England) Order 1999— (1122)

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(iii) Education (Inspectors of Schools in Wales) (No. 2) Order 1999— (1129)laid under the School Inspections Act 1996;

3. Scottish Administration (OYces) Order 1999, laid under the Scotland Act 1998; (1127)4. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Aylesbury Vale District

Council and Thanet District Council) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act1988. (1185)

12. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Education (Baseline Assessment) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act1997. (1188)

13. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Royal Armories triennial report for 1996–99, laid under the National Heritage Act 1983;2. Statement of remuneration paid to members of the British Waterways Board for 1998–99,

laid under the Transport Act 1962.

Public Business

14. Tax Credits Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an amendment wasmoved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed for statements;the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and(by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

15. Central America—The Viscount Montgomery of Alamein asked Her Majesty’s Government whatsteps have been taken to facilitate economic recovery in the recently devastated republics ofCentral America; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Amos.

16. Tax Credits Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed afteramendment 28.

The House was adjourned at twenty-seven minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.

Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.

Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.

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Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chandos, V.Chelmsford, V.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.

De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dinevor, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.

Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kingsdown, L.

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Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nickson, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Oliver of Aylmerton, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.

Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ridley, V.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuYeld, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.

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Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

1. Oath—Richard Charles Uryan Lord Dinevor took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Three Rivers District Council and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents) v. Governor and Company of the Bank of England (Original Respondentsand Cross-Appellants) (England)—The cross-appeal of the Governor and Company of theBank of England was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 8th June next.

3. Berkeley (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—Theappeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 26th April).

4. Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Appellants)—The petition ofthe appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 4th May next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Countryside Stewardship (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972; (1177)2. Lay Representatives (Rights of Audience) Order 1999, laid under the Courts and Legal

Services Act 1990; (1225)3. (i) Draft Code of Practice on Rights of Access: Goods, Facilities, Services and

Premises— (—)(ii) Draft Code of Practice on Duties of Trade Organisations to their disabled members

and applicants— (—)(iii) Disability Discrimination (Services and Premises) Regulations 1999— (1191)

laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. 4th Report for 1998–99 of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration on the

Ostrich Farming Corporation Ltd, laid under the Parliamentary Commissioner Act 1967;2. Report for 1995–98 of the Wallace Collection, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act

1992.

Select Committee Reports

7. Statutory Instruments—The following Reports from the Joint Committee were made and orderedto be printed:16th Report on certain statutory instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Framework Agreement for Trade andCooperation between the European Community and its Member States and the Republic ofKorea) Order 1999;

Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weir, V.

Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations 1999;Draft Alterations to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme; (HL Paper 56)

First Special Report: Departmental returns on instruments reported to Parliament, 1998. (HLPaper 57)

8. Financial Services and Markets—The First Report from the Joint Committee was made; it wasordered that the Report be printed, together with the minutes of proceedings and minutes ofevidence. (HL Paper 50–I and II)

Private Business

9. Imperial College Bill—The Examiners certificate that no further standing order is applicable wasordered to lie on the Table.

10. HFC Bank Bill—The bill was brought from the Commons, read a first time and referred to theExaminers.

Public Business

11. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was negatived; theHouse was resumed.

12. European Parliamentary Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—It wasmoved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 13th April beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

13. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (seedivision lists 1 and 2); the House was resumed after amendment 23.

14. Financial Services and Markets—A message was brought from the Commons that they have madethe following order, to which they desire the concurrence of this House: That it be anInstruction to the Joint Committee on Financial Services and Markets that it report by 27thMay 1999 on Parts V (employment in regulated activities), VI (civil fines for market abuse)and XII (disciplinary measures) of the draft bill in relation to the European Convention onHuman Rights.

The House was adjourned at nineteen minutes past one o’clockin the morning of Wednesday 28th April

till later the same day, half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl Ferrers, in Clause 1, page 1, line 5, to leave out (“shall be”) and insert (“whois”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

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Not-Contents … … … … … 82

CONTENTS

Alanbrooke, V.Annaly, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berners, B.Caithness, E.Clanwilliam, E.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Coleraine, L.Cross, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.

Eden of Winton, L. [Teller]EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Erroll, E.Ferrers, E. [Teller]Gray, L.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hemphill, L.Hooper, B.Knight of Collingtree, B.Liverpool, E.Longford, E.Lyell, L.

Mayhew of Twysden, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Napier and Ettrick, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Stockton, E.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Wise, L.

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Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.

Division No. 2

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl Ferrers, in Clause 1, page 1, line 5, to leave out second (“a”) and insert (“an”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 31

Not-Contents … … … … … 63

CONTENTS

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Berners, B.Blatch, B.Burnham, L.Byford, B.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clinton, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]

Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Monkswell, L.

Eden of Winton, L.Ferrers, E. [Teller]Gray, L.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Henley, L.Holmpatrick, L.Iveagh, E.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mancroft, L.Miller of Hendon, B.

Chandos, V.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Patel, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Monson, L.Mountevans, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Stockton, E.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Trenchard, V.Weir, V.

Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Hacking, L.Hardie, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennedy of The Shaws, B.

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Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]McNair, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.

Die Mercurii 28) Aprilis 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berkeley, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.

Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.

Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Combermere, V.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.

Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.

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Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hives, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.

Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.

Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.

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St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwell, Bp.StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

1. Oath—Michael Wellington Viscount Combermere took and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

Judicial Business

2. Taylor (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Respondent) (Scotland)—The petition ofthe appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 10th June next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

3. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Fire Test Procedures—International Code for Application of Fire Test Procedures. (4329)

4. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Unfair Dismissal and Statement of Reasons for Dismissal (Variation of QualifyingPeriod) Order 1999.

5. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:

Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment No. 2) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999, laidunder the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce,laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;

2. Report for 1998–99 of the Parades Commission for Northern Ireland, laid under thePublic Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998;

3. 3rd Report for 1998–99 of the Health Service Commissioner: Investigations about aspectsof the NHS complaints procedure, laid under the Health Service Commissioners Act1993.

Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.

Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchester, Bp.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

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Public Business

7. Financial Services and Markets—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that this Housedo concur with the Commons in the Order set out in their message of yesterday that it be anInstruction to the Joint Committee on Financial Services and Markets that it report by 27thMay 1999 on Parts V (employment in regulated activities), VI (civil fines for market abuse)and XII (disciplinary measures) of the draft bill in relation to the European Convention onHuman Rights; the motion was agreed to (see division list) and a message was ordered to besent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.

8. Adjournment of the House—It was moved by the Lord Strathclyde that the House do now adjournduring pleasure; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

9. Human embryos and cloning (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Alton of Liverpool thatthere be laid before the House papers relating to Her Majesty’s Government’s policyconcerning the use of human embryos in cloning procedures; after debate, the motion was (byleave of the House) withdrawn.

10. Hedgerows (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Hardy of Wath that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the current arrangements for the protection of hedgerows; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

11. Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Rotherwick that thebill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

12. Alterations to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme—It was moved by the Lord Burlisonthat the draft laid before the House on 25th March be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

13. Capercaillie—The Lord Thomas of Gresford asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willtake steps to prevent the imminent extinction of the capercaillie in the United Kingdom by thecreation of special protected areas under Article 4 of the Birds Directive (79/409/EEC), andby seeking its re-scheduling as a Schedule 1 Part II species under the Wildlife and CountrysideAct 1981, and by other measures of special protection; after debate, the question was answeredby the Lord Macdonald of Tradeston.

The House was adjourned at six minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

DIVISION

FINANCIAL SERVICES AND MARKETSIt was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington, that this House do concur with the Commons in theOrder set out in their message of yesterday that it be an Instruction to the Joint Committee on FinancialServices and Markets that it report by 27th May 1999 on Parts V (employment in regulated activities),VI (civil fines for market abuse) and XII (disciplinary measures) of the draft bill in relation to theEuropean Convention on Human Rights; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, andthe House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 105*

Not-Contents … … … … … 35* The Tellers for the Contents reported 105 votes; the Clerks recorded 104 names.

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.

Burlison, L.Burns, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gainsborough, E.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grey, E.Hampton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.

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Hives, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hooson, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alton of Liverpool, L.Ashbourne, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Brookeborough, V.Chesham, L.Davidson, V.Dundee, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Holderness, L.

Die Jovis 29) Aprilis 1999

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

McNair, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Northfield, L.Patel, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Sandberg, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Shaughnessy, L.

Ironside, L.Layton, L.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Milverton, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Moyne, L.Newall, L.Northbourne, L.Palmer, L.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.

Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Turner of Camden, B.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Whaddon, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.

Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L. [Teller]Rathcavan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sharples, B.Skelmersdale, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Tebbit, L. [Teller]Teynham, L.Vinson, L.

Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.

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Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.

Dudley, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hawke, L.Hayter, L.Henley, L.

Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.

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Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Northfield, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.

Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rathcreedan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.

Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

Judicial Business

1. Alan Wibberley Building Limited (Respondents) v. Insley (A.P.) (Appellant)—The Report fromthe Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of theCourt of Appeal of 13th November 1997 and the Order of Mr Recorder Pardoe of 30thNovember 1995 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation; that it be declared that “the boundarybetween the appellant’s and respondents’ lands ran along the Saveley Green Farm edge of theditch”; that the respondents do pay to the appellant three-quarters of his costs before MrRecorder Pardoe, his costs in the Court of Appeal and before this House, the amount of suchlast-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988.

2. Governor and Company of the Bank of Scotland (Respondents) v. Brunswick Developments(1987) Limited and another (Appellants) (Scotland)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Interlocutors of the FirstDivision of the Court of Session of 25th April 1997 and 21st May 1997 and the Interlocutorsof the Lord Ordinary of 16th January 1996 and 6th February 1996 be recalled; that therespondents’ petition for rectification be dismissed; that the respondents do pay to theappellants their costs in this House, the amount of such costs to be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties, and their expenses in the Court of Session inrespect of the proof before the Lord Ordinary, Lord Hamilton, and the subsequent reclaimingmotion; and that the question of any additional fee be remitted to the First Division of theCourt of Session, to proceed as accords.

3. Martinez and another (Petitioners) v. Ellesse International SpA (a company incorporated underthe laws of Italy) (Respondents)—The petition of Conchita Martinez and AdvantageInternational Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. London & Global Limited (Petitioners) v. Sahara Petroleum Limited (Respondents)—Thepetition of London & Global Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented withoutpayment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant toStanding Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 30thNovember 1998).

5. Stannifer Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Glasgow Development Agency and others(Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodgingthe statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 12thMay next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed (lodged 28th April).

6. Appeal Committee—The 28th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Mahomed (Respondent) v. Bank of Baroda (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused.Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Petitioners) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others(Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.Housing Loan Corporation plc (in Administrative Receivership) (Petitioners) v. William HBrown Limited and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d), and if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.Phelps (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon(Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 13th May next.Xydhias (Petitioner) v. Xydhias (A.P.) (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited tolodge objections by 13th May next.London & Global Limited (Petitioners) v. Sahara Petroleum Limited (Respondents)—Thatleave to appeal be refused.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

7. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Tuesday 4th May.

Papers

8. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Foreign AVairs—Further Government Response to the 3rd report from the House ofCommons Foreign AVairs Committee, session 1997–98, on Hong Kong. (4331)

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9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Building Societies (Merger Notification Statement) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Building Societies Act 1986; (1215)2. Housing (Preservation of Right to Buy) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Housing Act 1985; (1213)3. Local Government Pension Scheme (Miscellaneous Provisions) Regulations 1999, laid

under the Superannuation Act 1972; (1212)4. M606/M62 Motorways (Bradford Link) (Speed Limit) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984; (1187)5. Plant Protection Products (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972. (1228)

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 of the House of Commons Members’ Fund, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the House of CommonsMembers’ Fund Act 1939;

2. Report for 1998 of the OYce of Telecommunications, laid under the TelecommunicationsAct 1984;

3. Report and accounts for 1998 of the Port of London Authority, laid under the Port ofLondon Act 1968.

Public Business

11. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

12. Social security benefits—The Lord Morris of Manchester asked Her Majesty’s Government whatfurther action they propose to increase the take-up of social security benefits; after debate, thequestion was answered by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham.

13. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; the Housewas resumed after clause 1 stood part.

The House was adjourned at two minutes before ten o’clockto Tuesday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 4) Maii 1999The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.

Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.

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Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.

Durham, Bp.Eden of Winton, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exeter, Bp.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.

Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lichfield, Bp.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

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Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlborough, D.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Ministry of Defence (Respondents) ex parte Walker (Appellant) (England)—Theappeal of Trevor Walker was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th June next.

Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.

Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Young, B.

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2. Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Appellant) and one other action (England)—Theappeal of Muhit Khan was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 15th June next (lodged29th April).

3. Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB)(Respondents) v. Stargas Limited and others (Respondents) and Bergesen D.Y. A/S ‘BergeSisar’ (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of Bergesen D.Y. A/S was presented and it wasordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto belodged on or before 15th June next.

4. Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB) (Appellants) v. StargasLimited and others (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Borealis AB was presented andit was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix theretobe lodged on or before 15th June next.

5. Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited)(Respondents) v. Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Appellants) (England)—Theappeal of Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited was presented and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before15th June next.

6. Bourns Inc (Respondents) v. Raychem Corporation and another (Petitioners)—The petition ofRaychem Corporation and Latham & Watkins praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 30th April).

7. Saleslease Limited (Petitioners) v. Davis (Respondent)—The petition of Saleslease Limitedpraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged30th April).

8. Halifax plc (Respondents) v. Ghadami (Petitioner)—The petition of Mohammad Reza Ghadamipraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

9. Regina v. Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate and the Lord Advocate (Appellant) ex parteGranada Television Limited (Respondents) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

10. Regina v. Ministry of Defence (Respondents) ex parte Walker (Appellant) —It was ordered thatthe appellant be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs asrequired by Standing Order.

Papers

11. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations1999.

12. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 30th April, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Miscellaneous Food Additives (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Food

Safety Act 1990; (1136)2. Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Supply, Sale and Export of Petroleum and Petroleum

Products) (Penalties and Licences) Regulations 1999, laid under the EuropeanCommunities Act 1972; (1261)

3. Social Landlords (Additional Purposes or Objects) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under theHousing Act 1996. (1206)

13. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Road TraYc (Parking Adjudicators) (London) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Road TraYc Act 1991. (1205)

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Summarised accounts for 1997–98 for England of the:

(i) Health Authorities;(ii) NHS Trusts;(iii) Funds Held on Trust;(iv) Ashworth Special Hospital Authority;(v) Broadmoor Special Hospital Authority;

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(vi) Dental Practice Board;(vii) Dental Vocational Training Authority;(viii) Family Health Services Appeal Authority;(ix) Mental Health Act Commission;(x) National Blood Authority;(xi) NHS Litigation Authority;(xii) NHS Supplies Authority;(xiii) Prescription Pricing Authority;(xiv) Rampton Special Hospital Authority;(xv) United Kingdom Transplant Support Service Authority;(xvi) Health Education Authority;(xvii) Microbiological Research Authority;

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theNational Health Service Act 1997;

2. Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland on the NorthernIreland Transport Holding Company, laid under the Audit (Northern Ireland) Order1997.

Select Committee Report

15. Statutory Instruments—The 17th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Economic Partnership,Political Coordination and Cooperation Agreement between the European Communityand its Member States and the United Mexican States) Order 1999;Draft Unfair Dismissal and Statement of Reasons for Dismissal (Variation ofQualifying Period) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 58)

Public Business

16. Protection of Children Bill—A bill to require a list to be kept of persons considered unsuitable towork with children; to extend the power to make regulations under section 218(6) of theEducation Reform Act 1988; to make further provision with respect to that list and the listkept for the purposes of such regulations; to enable the protection aVorded to children to beaVorded to persons suVering from mental impairment; and for connected purposes wasbrought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 51)

17. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey, on behalf of theBaroness Jay of Paddington, that Standing Order 38 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) bedispensed with on Thursday next to allow the motion on Kosovo standing in the name of theLord Gilbert to be taken first; the motion was agreed to.

18. Tax Credits Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere agreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); amendments were moved and (by leave of theCommittee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

19. Local Authority (Stocks and Bonds) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—The Local Authority(Stocks and Bonds) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 was postponed till after the Committeestage of the Tax Credits Bill.

20. Satellite developments—The Lord Kennet asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their policytowards the future international development of civil and military satellite communicationsand navigation systems, in particular in relation to the European Space Agency and to theWestern European Union; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Sainsbury ofTurville.

21. Tax Credits Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; theHouse was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the billbe printed as amended. (HL Bill 52)

22. Local Authority (Stocks and Bonds) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the LordMcIntosh of Haringey that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 30th March beapproved; the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

TAX CREDITS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Goodhart, in Clause 6, page 3, line 31, at beginning to insert (“Subject tosubsection (1A),”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committeedivided:

Contents … … … … … … 161

Not-Contents … … … … … 121

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnock, L.Chadlington, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Davidson, V.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Deedes, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dudley, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.

Gainford, L.Geddes, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L. [Teller]Gray of Contin, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hylton, L.Jellicoe, E.Kimball, L.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Marlesford, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Monro of Langholm, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.

Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Quinton, L.Rathcavan, L.Redesdale, L.Renwick, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E. [Teller]Saatchi, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Wolfson, L.Young, B.

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Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Craigmyle, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Division No. 2

TAX CREDITS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Higgins, in Clause 6, page 3, line 35, at end to insert:

(“( ) The Board shall ensure that any single parent can decide to receive payment of any tax creditdirect from the Board rather than from the employer.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 150

Not-Contents … … … … … 103

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Judd, L.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V. [Teller]Brigstocke, B.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rix, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thornton, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.

Byford, B.Cadman, L.Carlisle, E.Carnock, L.Chadlington, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.

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Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cranbrook, E.Cross, V.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Deedes, L.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Dholakia, L.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Falkland, V.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gray of Contin, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hylton-Foster, B.Jacobs, L.Jopling, L.Kimball, L.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.

Knight of Collingtree, B.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.

Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Prior, L.Quinton, L.Rathcavan, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Saatchi, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Seccombe, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Westbury, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Young, B.

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Orme, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Prys-Davies, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.

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Die Mercurii 5) Maii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bauer, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.

Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.

Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Broughshane, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.

Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.

Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exeter, Bp.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.

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Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntly, M.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Ilchester, E.

Imbert, L.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.

Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

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Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter.

Judicial Business

1. Imperial Chemical Industries (Respondents) v. Colmer (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes)(Appellant)—It was ordered that the cause be again referred to the Appellate Committee.

2. Brown (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Rentokil Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—It was ordered that thecause be again referred to the Appellate Committee.

3. Boukssid (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)(England)—The appeal of Fatima Boukssid was presented and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before16th June next.

4. Inco Europe Limited and others (Appellants) v. First Choice Distribution (a firm) and others(Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Inco Europe Limited, Inco Alloys Limited and IncoLimited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 16th June next.

5. Reynolds (Respondent) v. Times Newspapers Limited and others (Appellants)—The appeal wasset down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and othersand another (A.P.) (Respondents)—The legal aid certificate of Mrs Malvina VirginiaO’Connor (Respondent) was lodged and in accordance with Standing Orders VI and IX it wasordered that the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 4th May (lodged4th May).

Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Lifelong Learning—Minute of 5th May concerning the gifting of assets costing £448,734

from the Department of Employment to UFI Limited to support the development of thecompany to deliver the Department’s objectives for Lifelong Learning; (—)

2. Victims’ Remains—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Ireland establishingthe Independent Commission for the Location of Victims’ Remains; (4344)

3. Finance—Treasury Minute on the 5th Report from the House of Commons PublicAccounts Committee: The Sale of British Energy. (4335)

Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Templeman, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trumpington, B.

Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Young, B.

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8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Recreation Grounds (Revocation of Parish Council Byelaws) Order 1999, laid under the

Local Government Act 1972; (1227)2. Social Security Revaluation of Earnings Factors Order 1999, laid under the Social

Security Administration Act 1992; (1235)3. (i) National Health Service (Clinical Negligence Scheme) (Amendment) Regulations

1999— (1274)(ii) National Health Service (Existing Liabilities Scheme) (Amendment) Regulations

1999— (1275)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977.

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Scotland in respect of

borrowing by the Dumfries and Galloway Acute and Maternity Hospitals NationalHealth Service Trust from the Bank of Scotland plc, laid under the National HealthService (Scotland) Act 1978;

2. Report for 1998 of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service (ACAS), laidunder the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992;

3. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Defence Animal Centre, laid under theExchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921.

Public Business

10. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington, that the debates on the motions in the names of the Lord Rodgers of QuarryBank and the Viscount Falkland set down for today shall each be limited to 2° hours; themotion was agreed to.

11. Council of Europe (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank thatthere be laid before the House papers relating to the 50th Anniversary of the Council ofEurope; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

12. Public service broadcasting (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Viscount Falkland that therebe laid before the House papers relating to the case for preserving the quality and diversityof public service broadcasting in the digital age, against the background of increasing globalcompetition; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

13. Rating (Valuation) Bill—The bill was reported from a Grand Committee without amendment.

14. Closure of rural schools—The Baroness Linklater of Butterstone asked Her Majesty’sGovernment what are the implications for rural communities of the closure of their localschools; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past nine o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

APPENDIX

PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM) ON THERATING (VALUATION) BILL

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Ampthill) was in the Chair.

An amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; it was orderedthat the bill be reported without amendment.

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes before five o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.

Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.

Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exeter, Bp.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.

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Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inge, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kimball, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.

Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.London, Bp.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.

Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter.

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for tomorrow.

Judicial Business

2. MSC Mediterranean Shipping Company SA (Respondents) v. Owners of the Ship “Tychy”(Petitioners)—The petition of Polish Ocean Lines praying for leave to appeal notwithstandingthat the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

3. West Bromwich Building Society (Appellants) v. Mander Hadley (Respondents)—The petitionof the appellants was presented praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreedbetween the parties (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto); and it was orderedas prayed.

4. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and othersand another (A.P.) (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time forlodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extendedto 15th June next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed (lodged 4th May).

5. Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 27th May next (the agents for therespondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Government (General Grant) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the

Northern Ireland Act 1974; (—)2. (i) Gaming Clubs (Hours and Charges) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1258)

(ii) Gaming Act (Variation of Monetary Limits) Order 1999— (1260)laid under the Gaming Act 1968;

3. Amusements with Prizes (Variation of Monetary Limits) Order 1999, laid under theLotteries and Amusements Act 1976; (1259)

4. Education (Funding for Teacher Training) Designation Order 1999, laid under theEducation Act 1994; (1283)

5. (i) Durham College of Agriculture and Horticulture (Dissolution) Order 1999—(1284)

(ii) East Durham Community College (Dissolution) Order 1999— (1285)laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;

6. (i) Education (Adjudicators Inquiry Procedure etc. ) Regulations 1999— (1286)(ii) Education (Head Teachers) Regulations 1999— (1287)

laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.

Thurlow, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vincent of Coleshill, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.

Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Accounts for 1997–98 of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service and of theCertification OYcer and the Central Arbitration Committee, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Trade Union and Labour Relations(Consolidation) Act 1992.

9. Statutory Instruments Reference Committee—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that hehad received the following Report from the Statutory Instruments Reference Committee:That it has been notified in accordance with regulation 11(3) of the Statutory InstrumentsRegulations 1947, that the Secretary of State for the Home Department has certified, underregulation 6 of the said Regulations, that the printing and sale of copies of the Young OVenderInstitution (Amendment) Rules 1999 (S.I. 1999/729) in accordance with the requirements ofsection 2(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946 is unnecessary having regard to the fact thatthe instrument was revoked and later replaced by another instrument before the above hadcome into eVect;That the Committee is satisfied that the certificate is justified and has taken no further actionin the matter;The report was ordered to lie on the Table.

Private Business

10. HFC Bank Bill—The Examiners certificate that no further standing order is applicable wasordered to lie on the Table.

Public Business

11. Road TraYc (Use of Mobile Telephones) Bill [hl]—A bill to make it an oVence to drive while usinga hand-held mobile telephone was presented by the Lord Davies of Oldham, read a first timeand ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 53)

12. Kosovo—It was moved by the Lord Gilbert that this House take note of the situation in Kosovo;after debate, it was moved by the Earl of Lauderdale, as an amendment thereto, at end toinsert (“; but regrets that bomb attacks on the sovereign state of Yugoslavia have resulted inkilling and maiming of civilians as well as damage to the economy of Eastern Europe throughblockage of the Danube, without clear sanction either in international law or by resolution ofthe United Nations Security Council.”); after further debate, the amendment was (by leave ofthe House) withdrawn; then the original motion was agreed to.

13. Visiting Forces and International Headquarters (Application of Law) Order 1999—

14. International Headquarters and Defence Organisations (Designation and Privileges)(Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Gilbert that the draft Orders laid before the House on 15th Aprilbe approved en bloc; the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at four minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.

Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.

Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.

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Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Enniskillen, E.Exeter, Bp.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harris of Greenwich, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Exeter.

Papers

1. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Air Services—

(i) Montreal Protocol No. 4 to amend the Convention for the Unification of CertainRules relating to International Carriage by Air signed at Warsaw on 12th October1929 as amended by the Protocol done at The Hague on 28 September 1955;

(4337)(ii) Agreement between the United Kingdom and Hong Kong concerning Air Services;

(4336)2. Competition Commission—Report on the proposed merger of Rockwool Limited and

Owens-Corning Building Products (UK) Limited. (4330)

2. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Warehousekeepers and Owners of Warehoused Goods Regulations 1999, laid under the

Customs and Excise Management Act 1979; (1278)

Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Imbert, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jellicoe, E.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Listowel, E.Longford, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Marsh, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.

Peston, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Weatherill, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Wise, L.

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2. Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Midland Metro T69 Vehicles) (Exemption No. 2) Order 1999,laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; (1256)

3. Child Support Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations 1999, laid under the ChildSupport Act 1991. (1305)

3. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Scheme made by the County Council of Flintshire under section 19 of the Welsh Church Act1914, laid under that Act.

Public Business

4. Border Controls (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Wallace of Saltaire that this Housetake note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on Schengen and theUnited Kingdom’s Border Controls (7th Report, HL Paper 37); after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

5. Greater London Authority Bill—A bill to establish and make provision about the Greater LondonAuthority, the Mayor of London and the London Assembly; to make provision in relation toLondon borough councils and the Common Council of the City of London with respect tomatters consequential on the establishment of the Greater London Authority; to makeprovision with respect to the functions of other local authorities and statutory bodiesexercising functions in Greater London; to make provision about transport and road traYcin and around Greater London; to make provision about policing in Greater London and tomake an adjustment of the metropolitan police district; and for connected purposes wasbrought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 54)

6. Greater London Authority Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 54–EN)

7. Obscenity Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 55)

8. Aeroplane Noise Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton thatthe draft Regulations laid before the House on 14th April be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

9. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Framework Agreement for Trade andCooperation between the European Community and its Member States and the Republic ofKorea) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Carter that the draft Order laid before theHouse on 21st April be approved; the motion was agreed to.

10. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Economic Partnership, Political Coordinationand Cooperation Agreement between the European Community and its Member States andthe United Mexican States) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Carter that the draft Orderlaid before the House on 26th April be approved; the motion was agreed to.

11. Potato Industry Development Council (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordCarter that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th April be approved; the motion wasagreed to.

The House was adjourned at three minutes before two o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.

Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.

Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

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Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birkett, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cumberlege, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.

Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.

Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inge, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.

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Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

Judicial Business

1. Wisely (Respondent) v. John Fulton Plumbers Limited (Appellants) (Scotland)—The appeal ofJohn Fulton Plumbers Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st June next.

2. Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of JamesMichaels and Forbes Inc was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st June next.

3. Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of JamesMichaels and Forbes Inc was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 21st June next.

Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.

Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Young, B.

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4. Killoran (Petitioner) v. Wokingham District Council (Respondents)—The petition of CraigFrancis Killoran praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, suchfee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the saidpetition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 14th January 1998).

5. Al-Ani (Petitioner) v. Shubber (Respondent)—The petition of Abdul-Haq Al-Ani praying forleave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by theAppeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to anAppeal Committee (lodged 6th November 1998).

6. Deepak Fertilisers and Petrochemicals Limited (Petitioners) v. ICI Chemicals & PolymersLimited and others (Respondents)—The petition of Deepak Fertilisers and PetrochemicalsLimited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee(lodged 11th December 1998).

7. In re C (a minor) and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of the mother praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

8. Wadey (Respondent) v. Surrey County Council (Petitioners)—The petition of Surrey CountyCouncil praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing OrderI has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

9. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

10. Wisely (Respondent) v. John Fulton Plumbers Limited (Appellants) (Scotland)—It was orderedthat the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security forcosts as required by Standing Order.

11. Appeal Committee—The 29th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Three Rivers District Council and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents) v. Governor and Company of the Bank of England (Original Respondents andCross-Appellants)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

12. Appeal Committee—The 30th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Reed (Respondent) v. Graham (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.Costello (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Northumbria (Petitioner)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Arthur J S Hall & Co (Petitioners) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—That the respondent beinvited to lodge objections by 24th May next.Cockbone (Respondent) v. Atkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) (Petitioners)—That therespondent be invited to lodge objections by 24th May next.Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Petitioners)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 24th May next.Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Petitioners) and others—That therespondent be invited to lodge objections by 24th May next.Government of the United States of America (Respondents) v. Montgomery and another(Petitioners)—That the petition be referred for hearing.Killoran (Petitioner) v. Wokingham District Council (Respondents)—That leave to appealbe refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Al-Ani (Petitioner) v. Shubber (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Papers

13. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Fees) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid

under the Public Expenditure and Receipts Act 1968; (1303)2. Secure Remands and Committals (Prescribed Description of Children and Young

Persons) Order 1999, laid under the Children and Young Persons Act 1969; (1265)

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3. Social Security (Adjudication) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the SocialSecurity Administration Act 1992. (1302)

14. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Change 3 to the Regulations for the Naval and Marine Reserve (BR 64), laid under theReserve Forces Act 1996.

15. Special Procedure Order—The following special procedure order was laid before the House,together with the certificate of the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and theRegions, and ordered to lie on the Table:City of Stoke-on-Trent Tunstall Northern By-Pass Local Government Act CompulsoryPurchase Order 1997.

Public Business

16. Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Bill—A bill to amend and extend certain enactments relatingto the commercial breeding and sale of dogs; to regulate the welfare of dogs kept incommercial breeding establishments; to extend powers of inspection; to establish records ofdogs kept at such establishments; and for connected purposes was brought from theCommons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 56)

17. Company and Business Names (Chamber of Commerce, Etc.) Bill—A bill to make provisionconcerning the approval of company or business names containing the expression “chamberof commerce” or any related expression; and for connected purposes was brought from theCommons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 57)

18. Employment Relations Bill—It was moved by the Lord Simon of Highbury that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

19. General Teaching Council for England (Constitution) Regulations 1999—

20. General Teaching Council for Wales (Constitution) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Blackstone that the draft Regulations laid before the House on22nd March be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

21. Tibet—The Earl of Carrick asked Her Majesty’s Government what they are doing to assist theTibetans to have meaningful dialogue with the People’s Republic of China leading to anegotiated settlement of the Tibetan issue; after debate, the question was answered by theBaroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at twenty-two minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

APPENDIX

PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM) ONTHE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILL

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Strabolgi) was in the Chair.

Amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the Committeewas adjourned after clause 13 stood part.

The Committee was adjourned at twelve minutes before eight o’clock until Wednesday 12th Mayat half-past three o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Aldenham, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.

Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.

Clwyd, L.Clyde, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dinevor, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.

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Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hastings, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Head, V.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hindlip, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.

Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kindersley, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlborough, D.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.

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Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Richmond Lennox and Gordon, D.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.

Simon of Highbury, L.Simpson of Dunkeld, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Templeman, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tollemache, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

1. Oath—Charles Henry Duke of Richmond Lennox and Gordon took and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The appeal of Times NewspapersLimited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 22nd June next (lodged 10th May).

3. Lawrence (formerly Julin) (Respondent) v. Barrett (trading as K.S. Barrett & Associates)(Petitioner)—The petition of Kim Steven Barrett praying for leave to appeal notwithstandingthat the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying thatthe time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing mightbe extended to 17th June next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 6th May).

Papers

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Northern Ireland—Report for 1998 of Executive Non-Departmental Public Bodies inNorthern Ireland. (4334)

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Public Service Vehicles (Community Licences) Regulations 1999, laid under theEuropean Communities Act 1972; (1322)

2. Local Government (Publication of StaYng Information) (England) (Revocation)Regulations 1999, laid under the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980;

(1267)

3. (i) National Crime Squad (Complaints) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1266)

(ii) NCIS (Complaints) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1273)

laid under the Police Act 1997;

4. Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County Borough ofNeath Port Talbot) Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991; (1288)

5. (i) Harrow College (Incorporation) Order 1999— (1327)

(ii) Harrow College (Government) Regulations 1999— (1328)

laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;

6. Education (Nursery Education and Early Years Development) (England) Regulations1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998. (1329)

7. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health in respect of temporaryborrowing by the Isle of Wight Healthcare National Health Service Trust from Barclays Bankplc, laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.

Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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Select Committee Report

8. Statutory Instruments—The 18th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals)(Amendment) Regulations 1999;Draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 59)

Public Business

9. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; anamendment was agreed to (see division list 1); amendments were moved and (by leave of theCommittee) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); the House wasresumed after amendment 70.

The House was adjourned at sixteen minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Weatherill, after Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Exception from section 1);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 352

Not-Contents … … … … … 32

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber, L.Barnard, L.Bathurst, E.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.

Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clanwilliam, E.

Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Crook, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denham, L.Diamond, L.Dinevor, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.

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Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Gainford, L.Geddes, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hastings, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.

Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kindersley, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Leathers, V.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.

Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Reay, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richmond, Lennox and Gordon,D.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Simpson of Dunkeld, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.

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Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V. [Teller]Teynham, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.

Division No. 2

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Trefgarne, after Clause 1, to insert the following new Clause:

Committee for Privileges(“ . A Lord who is disqualified from attending, sitting or voting in the House of Lords by virtue of

section 1 may nevertheless be a member of the Committee for Privileges, subject to and in accordancewith the Standing Orders of the House, and any such Lord who is a member of that Committee shallbe entitled—

(a) to admittance to the Palace of Westminster as if he were not so disqualified, and(b) in the performance of his functions as a member of that Committee to all the rights and privileges

of any other member of that Committee who is not so disqualified.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 26

Not-Contents … … … … … 126

CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Bell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Brentford, V.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.

Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.

Clinton, L.EYngham, E.Gray, L.Jopling, L.Mills, V.Montrose, D.Newall, L.Northesk, E. [Teller]Nunburnholme, L.

Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.

Weatherill, L. [Teller]Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weir, V.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Strathcarron, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Vivian, L.Young, B.

Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.

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Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennet, L.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.

Newby, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Parry, L.Paul, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.

BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Browne-Wilkinson, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.

Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.

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Cumberlege, B.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hardie, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Hastings, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jersey, E.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.

Lichfield, Bp.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nickson, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.

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O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Rutland, D.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

1. Duke of Rutland—David Charles Robert Duke of Rutland sat first in Parliament after the death ofhis father, Charles John Robert Duke of Rutland, having first taken and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Antoine (Petitioner)—The petition of Pierre Harrison Antoine praying for leave toappeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

3. In re Kern (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of Eugene RichardKern praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’s BenefitsPlan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, The Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-CanadianMaster Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) and others(Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Appellants) and others—Thepetition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 26th May next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Ahmed (A.P.)(Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Sosanya (A.P.)(Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Salisbury, Bp.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.

Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

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7. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 28th Report:Phelps (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by26th May next.Xydhias (Petitioner) v. Xydhias (A.P.) (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given, andthat the petition of appeal be lodged by 26th May next.

8. Appeal Committee—The 31st Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Order was made:Three Rivers District Council and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents) v. Governor and Company of the Bank of England (Original Respondents andCross-Appellants)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodgedby 26th May next.

9. Appeal Committee—The 32nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Orders were made:Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Patel (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Ibitola (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Ahmed (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Olusanya(A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxedin accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply forhis costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Coward (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Ghous (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Sosanya (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for hiscosts in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Link Organisation plc (Petitioners) v. North Derbyshire Tertiary College and others(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Joyce (Respondent) v. Morrissey (Petitioner) and others—That leave to appeal be refused.Morgan and others (Respondents) v. Morris (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.White (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. White and the Motor Insurers Bureau (Respondents)—That thepetition be referred for hearing.Roberts (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Winbow (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; andthat the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(b), and,if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties, and that the costs of the respondent be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

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Papers

10. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:Geneva Conventions—Protocols Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12th August 1949,and relating to the Protection of Victims of:

(i) International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I); (4338)(ii) Non–International Armed Conflicts (Protocol II). (4339)

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Scotland Act 1998 (General Transitory, Transitional and Savings Provisions)

Amendment Order 1999, laid under the Scotland Act 1998; (1334)2. Magistrates’ Courts (Children and Young Persons) (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under

the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980. (1343)

12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1997–98 relating to issues from the National Loans Fund, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under various Acts;2. Statement by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport concerning the

appointments of Dr Jessica Rawson CBE and Henry Boyd-Carpenter CVO to the Boardof the British Library, laid under the British Library Act 1972.

Private Business

13. Imperial College Bill—The bill was read a second time and committed to an Unopposed BillCommittee.

Public Business

14. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Hayhoe set down for today shall be limited to 2 hours andthat in the name of the Lord Vinson to 3 hours; the motion was agreed to.

15. Referendums (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Hayhoe that there be laid before theHouse papers relating to the case for establishing an independent statutory commissionresponsible for the conduct of referendums, their organisation and administration; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

16. Small firms (3-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Vinson that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the regulations that aVect the job creating potential of small firms; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

17. Local Government Bill—The bill was reported from a Grand Committee with amendments; it wasordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 58)

18. Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.

19. Human rights—The Lord Lester of Herne Hill asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willreconsider their refusal to make available the international remedies for breaches by theUnited Kingdom of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1996), theConvention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment orPunishment (1984) and the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms ofRacial Discrimination (1966); after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Williamsof Mostyn.

The House was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes past eight o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM) ON THELOCAL GOVERNMENT BILL

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Lyell) was in the Chair.

Amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreedto; it was ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.

The Committee was adjourned at nineteen minutes past six o’clock.

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The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Abinger, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.

Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.

Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.

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Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grafton, D.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hastings, L.Hattersley, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Head, V.Henley, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.

Knutsford, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Limerick, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.

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Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nickson, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Richardson of Calow, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Loke (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of Kwong Fatt Loke praying forleave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal (Northern Ireland) Act 1980 waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Regina v. McKenna (A.P.) (Respondent) ex parte Governor of Her Majesty’s Prison Magilligan(Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—The respondent’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. In re C (a minor) and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The respondent’s legal aid certificate waslodged.

Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.

Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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4. Appeal Committee—The 33rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Orders were made:UCB Home Loans Corporation Limited (Respondents) v. Moore and another (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 27th May next.National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Gill and Gill (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That therespondents be invited to lodge objections by 27th May next.Barclays Bank plc (Respondents) v. Harris and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That therespondents be invited to lodge objections by 27th May next.Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Blake (Petitioner) and another—That therespondent be invited to lodge objections by 27th May next.Regina v. McKenna (A.P.) (Respondent) ex parte Governor of Her Majesty’s PrisonMagilligan (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs ofthe respondent be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (NorthernIreland) Order 1981.MacNiven (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Petitioner) v. Westmoreland InvestmentsLimited (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 27th Maynext.Garner (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Pounds Shipowners andShipbreakers Limited (Petitioners) and one other action—That the respondent be invited tolodge objections by 27th May next.Commercial Union Assurance Company plc (Petitioners) v. Shaw (Her Majesty’s Inspectorof Taxes) (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty toapply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, thatthe amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.

5. Appeal Committee—The 34th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:In re C (a minor) and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that thecosts of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that therespondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(b).

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Communities—Response of the Secretary of State for Foreign and

Commonwealth AVairs to the 3rd Report of the House of Commons Foreign AVairsCommittee, on European Union Enlargement; (4348)

2. Sierra Leone—Report of the Intelligence and Security Committee on Sierra Leone.(4309)

7. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Northern Ireland (Emergency and Prevention of Terrorism Provisions) (Continuance)Order 1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Cattle Identification (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the European

Communities Act 1972; (1339)2. Election Petition (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Representation of the People

Act 1983; (1352)3. (i) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Members’ Interests)

Order 1999— (1350)(ii) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Complaints of

Maladministration) Order 1999— (1351)laid under the Scotland Act 1998;

4. Housing (Right to Acquire or Enfranchise) (Designated Rural Areas) Order 1999, laidunder the Leasehold Reform Act 1967. (1307)

9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Strategic Plan for 1999–2002 of the Heritage Lottery Fund, laid under the National LotteryAct 1998.

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Public Business

10. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

11. Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill—A bill to make provision connected withNorthern Ireland about locating the remains of persons killed before 10th April 1998 as aresult of unlawful acts of violence committed on behalf of, or in connection with, proscribedorganisations; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first timeand ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 59)

12. Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notesrelating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 59–EN)

13. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were agreed to;amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the billbe printed as amended. (HL Bill 60)

14. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed afteramendment 110A.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes past midnightin the morning of Friday 14th May to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Annaly, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.

BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.

Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.

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Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.

Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halifax, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.

Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Limerick, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.

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Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.

Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stevens of Ludgate, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.

Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Teynham, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

Judicial Business1. Baxter (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Camden (Respondents) (England)—

The appeal of Yvonne Baxter was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having beenwaived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before28th June next.

2. Haji-Ioannou and others (Petitioners) v. Frangos and others (Respondents)—The petition ofLoucas Haji-Ioannou, Kypros Compania Naviera SA and Lefkosia Compania Naviera SApraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged29th April).

3. Colley (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and another (Respondents)—Thepetition of Janine Colley praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—It was ordered that the appellants beallowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required byStanding Order.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Fasat-Bravo Satellite—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Chile

concerning liability for damage during the launch phase of the Fasat-Bravo Satellite;(14th May) (4343)

2. Northern Ireland—Receipts and Payments Accounts for 1997–98 of the IndustrialDevelopment Board for Northern Ireland, together with the Report of the Comptrollerand Auditor General for Northern Ireland; (17th May) (4333)

3. Sustainable Development—A Better Quality of Life: a Strategy for SustainableDevelopment for the United Kingdom: Government proposals. (17th May) (4345)

6. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 14th May, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid

under the Forfeiture (Northern Ireland) Order 1982; (—)2. Child Support Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid

under the Child Support (Northern Ireland) Order 1991; (—)3. Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations

1999, laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988; (1375)4. Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment) Regulations

1999, laid under the Environment Act 1995; (1361)5. European Specialist Medical Qualifications Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under

the European Communities Act 1972; (1373)6. Food Safety (General Food Hygiene) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Food Safety Act 1990; (1360)7. Social Security (Overlapping Benefits) Amendment (No.2) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Social Security Administration Act 1992. (1362)

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Social Security (Hospital In-Patients, Attendance Allowance and Disability Living

Allowance) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Social Security Contributionsand Benefits Act 1992; (1326)

2. Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Publication andInterpretation etc. of Acts of the Scottish Parliament) Order 1999, laid under the ScotlandAct 1998. (1379)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Strategic Plan for 1999–2002 of the National Lottery Charities Board, laid under the

National Lottery Act 1998;2. Cambridgeshire (Coroners’ Districts) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Coroners

Act 1988; (1325)3. Investing for our sporting future: Report for 1999–2009 of the Sport England Lottery

Fund, laid under the National Lottery Act 1998.

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9. Protection of Children Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 51–EN)

10. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

11. Cruelty to animals—The Lord Hardy of Wath asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they willenquire into the incidence of cruelty to animals; and, if so, whether they will publish theirconclusions; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Burlison.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

12. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; then it was moved by the LordHenley that the House be resumed; after debate, the motion was agreed to (see division list)and the House was resumed after amendment 114.

The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Henley that the House be resumed which being objected to, the question wasput thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 145

Not-Contents … … … … … 136

CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Bowness, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Chadlington, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.

Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Downshire, M.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Ferrers, E.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Gage, V.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Gray, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hogg, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hunt of Wirral, L.Inglewood, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenyon, L.

Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knutsford, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Limerick, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Mountgarret, V.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Newall, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Palmer, L.Patten, L.

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Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Prior, L.Quinton, L.Rawlings, B.Renton, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Romney, E.Rowallan, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.

Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.

Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Marsh, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Wise, L.

Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Orme, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.

Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Clyde, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.

Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.

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Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.

Kenyon, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kimball, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsay of Birker, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.

Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

1. Lord Saint Oswald—Charles Roland Andrew Lord Saint Oswald sat first in Parliament after thedeath of his father, Derek Edward Anthony Lord Saint Oswald, having first taken andsubscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. District Court Martial at Bulford and another (Respondents) ex parte Bowyer(Petitioner)—The petition of Karl Adam Bowyer praying for leave to appeal in accordancewith the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee (lodged 30th March).

3. Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—

4. Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the appeals be consolidated, that they be allowedto lodge one statement, case and appendix and be jointly represented in respect of the twoappeals and that the respondents have leave to lodge one case and be jointly represented inrespect of the two appeals (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented;and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Appeal Committee—The 35th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Wadey (Respondent) v. Surrey County Council (Petitioners)—The petition of Surrey CountyCouncil praying for leave to present an appeal notwithstanding that the time limited byStanding Order I has expired be allowed and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 1st Junenext.

Papers

6. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Communities—Report for July–December 1998 on Developments in the

European Union; (4352)2. Channel Tunnel—Amendment No. 3 to the Concession Agreement relating to

development, financing, construction and operation of a fixed link across the EnglishChannel signed as of 14th March 1986. (4350)

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Templeman, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tollemache, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.

Varley, L.Verulam, E.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

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7. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Speech and Language Therapists Board)

Order of Council 1999;2. Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Clinical Scientists Board) Order of

Council 1999;3. Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Paramedics Board) Order of Council

1999.

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Legal Aid in Criminal Cases (Statement of Means) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid

under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; (—)2. Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Specification) Order 1999, laid

under the Scotland Act 1998; (1319)3. Judicial Committee (Powers in Devolution Cases) Order 1999, laid under the

Government of Wales Act 1998, the Scotland Act 1998 and the Northern Ireland Act1998. (1320)

9. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report on Penalty Clauses by the Scottish Law Commission, laid under the Law CommissionsAct 1965.

Select Committee Reports

10. Statutory Instruments—The 19th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instrument:

Draft Northern Ireland (Emergency and Prevention of Terrorism Provisions)(Continuance) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 60)

11. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made andordered to be printed:

Agenda 2000: CAP Reform. (8th Report–HL Paper 61);Prosecuting Fraud on the Communities’ Finances—the Corpus Juris. (9th Report–HLPaper 62).

Private Business

12. HFC Bank Bill—The bill was read a second time and committed to an Unopposed Bill Committee.

Public Business

13. Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that thebill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

14. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was agreed to; theHouse was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the billbe printed as amended. (HL Bill 61)

15. Tax Credits Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the report be now received;then it was moved by the Lord Higgins, as an amendment thereto, to leave out (“now”) andat the end insert (“only after Her Majesty’s Government have announced their intentions inrespect of passported benefits”); after debate, the amendment was (by leave of the House)withdrawn; then the report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)withdrawn; further consideration on report was adjourned after amendment 14.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Briggs, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.

Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.

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Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsay of Birker, L.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.

Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.

Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Spens, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Monday 24th May.

Judicial Business

2. Glenister (Petitioner) v. Rowe (Respondent)—The petition of Graham Dennis Glenister prayingfor leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 30th Report:Arthur J S Hall & Co (Petitioners) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—That leave to appeal begiven, on terms that the petitioners do not seek to disturb the orders for costs below and willnot seek their costs in this House, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2nd June next.Cockbone (Respondent) v. Atkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) (Petitioners)—That leave toappeal be given, on terms that the petitioners do not seek to disturb the orders for costs belowand will not seek their costs in this House, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2ndJune next.Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given, on terms that the petitioners do not seek to disturb the ordersfor costs below and will not seek their costs in this House, and that the petition of appeal belodged by 2nd June next.Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Petitioners) and others—That leaveto appeal be given, on terms that the petitioners do not seek to disturb the orders for costsbelow and will not seek their costs in this House, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by2nd June next.

4. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 33rd Report:UCB Home Loans Corporation Limited (Respondents) v. Moore and another (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2ndJune next.National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Gill and Gill (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leaveto appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2nd June next.Barclays Bank plc (Respondents) v. Harris and another (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave toappeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 2nd June next.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Communities—Convention on Driving Disqualifications, together with an

explanatory memorandum; (4327)2. Double Taxation—Convention between the United Kingdom and Mongolia for the

Avoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with Respect toTaxes on Income and Capital. (4341)

6. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:European Parliamentary Election Petition (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under theRepresentation of the People Act 1983. (1398)

Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Walker of Doncaster, L.

Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Financial Statements for 1998 of the Radio Authority, laid under the

Broadcasting Act 1990;2. 5th Report for 1998–99 of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration on

Access to OYcial Information, laid under the Parliamentary Commissioner Act 1967.

Select Committee Report

8. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:15th Report, on the following bills:

Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill;Company and Business Names (Chamber of Commerce, Etc.) Bill;Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Bill;European Parliamentary Elections (Amendment) Bill [hl];Road TraYc (Use of Mobile Telephones) Bill [hl] (HL Paper 63)

Public Business

9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Gladwyn set down for today shall be limited to 3° hours andthat in the name of the Earl of Iveagh to 1° hours; the motion was agreed to.

10. Access to the countryside (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Gladwyn that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to the issues raised by public demand for access to thecountryside; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

11. Conductive education (1°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Earl of Iveagh that there be laidbefore the House papers relating to special needs education, with particular reference to thepromotion of conductive education for severely disabled people in the United Kingdom; afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

12. Road TraYc Regulation (Cycle Parking) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed andsent to the Commons.

13. NHS: millennium services—The Lord Astor of Hever asked Her Majesty’s Government what stepsthey are taking to ensure that the National Health Service has suYcient resources to cope from11.00 pm on 31st December 1999 till 7.00 am on 1st January 2000; after debate, the questionwas answered by the Baroness Hayman.

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes past nine o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.

Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.

Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birkett, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.

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Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cowley, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.

Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.

Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutton, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.London, Bp.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.

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Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Minto, E.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.

Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Didgemere, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.

Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

Judicial Business

1. O’Neill and another (A.P.) (Respondents) v. Phillips and others (Appellants)—The Report fromthe Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of theCourt of Appeal of 1st May 1997 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation and that the Orderof Judge Baker of 27th July 1995 be restored; that the respondents’ petition brought undersection 459 of the Companies Act 1985 be dismissed; that the costs of the appellants in theCourt of Appeal and in this House be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordance withsection 18 of the Legal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended for four weeks to allow theLegal Aid Board to object if they wish; and that the costs of the respondents in this House betaxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

2. Wadey (Respondent) v. Surrey County Council (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of SurreyCounty Council was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VIthe statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 1st July next.

3. Pensher Security Door Company Limited (Respondents) v. Sunderland City Council(Petitioners)—The petition of Sunderland City Council praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. Wadey (Respondent) v. Surrey County Council (Appellants) (England)—It was ordered that theappellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs asrequired by Standing Order.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Sierra Leone—Government Response to the Intelligence and Security Committee’s Report onSierra Leone. (4347)

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:(i) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Peak) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1367)(ii) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Avon Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1368)(iii) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Clun) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1369)(iv) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (South Wessex Downs) Designation (Amendment)

Order 1999— (1370)(v) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Exmoor) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1371)(vi) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (SuVolk River Valleys) Designation (Amendment)

Order 1999— (1372)(vii) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Lake District) Designation (Amendment) Order

1999— (1363)(viii) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Breckland) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1364)(ix) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Test Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1365)(x) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Kent Marshes) Designation (Amendment)

Order 1999— (1366)laid under the Agriculture Act 1986.

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998 of the Independent Assessor of Military Complaints Procedures in

Northern Ireland, laid under the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1996;2. Report for 1998 of the British Board of Film Classification, laid under the Video

Recordings Act 1984.

Private Business

8. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [hl]—The Report from Her Majesty’s Attorney General waspresented.

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9. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 44(No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with on Monday next to allow theNorthern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill to be taken through its remaining stagesthat day; the motion was agreed to.

10. House of Lords Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the bill be re-committed to a Committee of the Whole House in respect of clause 2; the motion wasagreed to.

11. Rating (Valuation) Bill—The report was received; an amendment was moved and (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn.

12. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time; amendments weremoved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see divisionlist); a privilege amendment was agreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and sent tothe Commons.

13. Greater London Authority Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the bill be now read asecond time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned at twelve minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

DIVISION

POLLUTION PREVENTION AND CONTROL BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Pearson of Rannoch, page 2, line 17, at end insert:

(“( ) Regulations under this section shall require individuals or bodies responsible for carrying outsuch activities as are referred to in the regulations (not being a category of activity referred to in AnnexI of Council Directive 96/61/EC) to employ the best available techniques not entailing excessive cost (inthis section referred to as “BATNEEC”) to be used for minimising the pollution which may be causedto the environment as a whole by those activities:

Provided that—(a) regulations under this section may specify circumstances where a more or less restrictive regime than

BATNEEC may be required either to comply with European or other international obligations, oron account of other circumstances;

(b) where regulations are made pursuant to paragraph (a) above, they shall be accompanied by astatement explaining why such a more or less restrictive regime should be applied; and

(c) if the regime to be employed is more restrictive than BATNEEC, the regulations embodying thatregime shall not be made unless a draft of the statutory instrument containing the regulations hasbeen laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament.”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 105

Not-Contents … … … … … 126

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.

Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carnock, L.Clark of Kempston, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Cranborne, V.Croham, L.Cuckney, L.

Davidson, V.Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eden of Winton, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Fookes, B.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Henley, L. [Teller]

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Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jopling, L.Keyes, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Long, V.Lyell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mancroft, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Monk Bretton, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alderdice, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Barnett, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.

Monson, L.Montrose, D.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L [Teller]Pender, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prior, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.

Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Iveagh, E.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Laming, L.Longford, E.Ludford, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Manchester, L.

Renton, L.Renwick, L.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Sheppard of Didgemere, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Vinson, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Turner of Camden, B.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashburton, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cork and Orrery, E.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Dahrendorf, L.

David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Oldham, L.Denbigh, E.Denman, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Eccles, V.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Enniskillen, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hankey, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Jacobs, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kimball, L.Laming, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.

Listowel, E.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Minto, E.Mishcon, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Nathan, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Plumb, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.

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Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Rix, L.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shore of Stepney, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Jackson (Petitioner)—The petition of John Thomas Jackson praying for leave to appealin accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee (lodged 29th April).

2. Regina v. District Court Martial at Bulford and another (Respondents) ex parte Bowyer (A.P.)(Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

3. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft International Copper Study Group (Legal Capacities) Order 1999.

4. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Civil Aviation (Navigation Services Charges) (Third Amendment) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Civil Aviation Act 1982. (1412)

5. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:New Regulations and Amendments to the Queen’s Regulations for the Royal Air Force:Chapter 48, laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917.

Public Business

6. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Renton of Mount Harrythat the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

7. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—A bill to make provision about pensions and social security;to make provision for reducing under-occupation of dwellings by housing benefit claimants;to authorise certain expenditure by the Secretary of State having responsibility for socialsecurity; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 62)

8. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the billbe printed. (HL Bill 62–EN)

9. Protection of Children Bill—It was moved by the Lord Laming that the bill be now read a secondtime; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of theWhole House.

10. Draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill—A message was brought from theCommons that they have come to the following resolution, to which they desire theconcurrence of this House: That it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commonsbe appointed to consider the draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Billpublished in the Command Paper entitled Local Leadership, Local Choice (Cm. 4298), andthat the Committee should report by 31st July 1999.

11. Obscenity Bill [hl]—The report was received.

12. Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984 (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the BaronessFarrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 30th March beapproved; the motion was agreed to.

Simon, V.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.

Trumpington, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

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13. Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the LordChancellor that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 21st April be approved; themotion was agreed to.

14. Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—Itwas moved by the Baroness Amos that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 4th Maybe approved; the motion was agreed to.

15. Unfair Dismissal and Statement of Reasons for Dismissal (Variation of Qualifying Period) Order1999—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that the draft Order laid before theHouse on 28th April be approved; the motion was agreed to.

16. Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordGilbert that the draft Order laid before the House on 6th May be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at two minutes before five o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 24) Maii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Abercorn, D.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.

Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.

Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.

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Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.

Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.

Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Richard, L.Richardson, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ridley, V.

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Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

Judicial Business

1. Phelps (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon (Respondents)(England)—The appeal of Pamela Helen Phelps was presented and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before5th July next.

2. Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (Respondent) v. Tillman (Petitioner) and another—Thepetition of Harold Peter Tillman praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee (lodged 21st May).

3. Electra Private Equity Partners (a limited partnership) and others (Respondents) v. KPMG PeatMarwick (a firm) and others (Petitioners)—The petition of Padraig Bennett, Ronald Bolger,Trevor Bowen, Gary Britton, Alex Burns, Ron Carroll, John Condon, Noel Cooke,Christopher Cullen, Robert Dix, Mark Dobbyn, Jim Doorly, Gerard Flood, Richard George,Ron Harris, Noel Holland, Ray Jackson, Norman Judge, Jerome Kennedy, Anthony Lynch,Tom Lynch, Maurice McCloy, Gerry McEvoy, Paul McGowan, Desmond Miller, JimMuddiman, John Nash, Pat O’Brien, Niall O’Carroll, Terence O’Rourke, John Roche, HenrySaville, Michael Spellman, Seamus TaaVe, Michael Varian, Richard Whelan, DrewWilkinson, Ben Wilson and Robert Woods praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

4. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal)—

5. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal)—(Conjoined Appeals)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendixand setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 8th July next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

6. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Freedom of Information—Freedom of Information: Consultation on Draft Legislation:Government consultation document. (4355)

Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Templeman, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.

Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Protection of Wrecks (Designation) Order 1999, laid under the Protection of Wrecks Act

1973; (1438)2. Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders (Hague Convention Countries)

(Variation) Order 1999, laid under the Maintenance Orders (Reciprocal Enforcement)Act 1972; (1318)

3. Legal Aid in Criminal Cases (Statement of Means) (Amendment) Rules (NorthernIreland) 1999, laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order1981. (—)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. European Parliamentary Elections (Welsh Forms) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under

the Welsh Language Act 1993; (1402)2. Report and Financial Statements for 1998 of Channel Four Television Corporation, laid

under the Broadcasting Act 1990.

Public Business

9. Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Bill—A bill to make further provision about the testing of motorvehicles for the purposes of Part II of the Road TraYc Act 1988; and for connected purposeswas brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 63)

10. Draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Jayof Paddington that this House do concur with the Commons in their message of 21st May,that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to considerthe draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill published in the CommandPaper entitled Local Leadership, Local Choice (Cm. 4298), and that the Committee shouldreport by 31st July 1999; the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that a message be sentto the Commons to acquaint them therewith.

11. Rating (Valuation) Bill—The Queen’s Consent was signified; then the bill was read a third timeand passed.

12. Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Bill—The House resolved itself into aCommittee upon the bill; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); the House wasresumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; anamendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); amendments were moved and (by leave ofthe Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported withoutamendment; the report was received; then Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, thebill was read a third time and passed.

13. Tax Credits Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill beprinted as amended. (HL Bill 64)

The House was adjourned at sixteen minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

NORTHERN IRELAND (LOCATION OF VICTIMS’ REMAINS) BILLIt was moved by the Viscount Cranborne, in Clause 2, page 2, line 30, after (“eVect”) to insert (“either—

(a) at the end of 30th June 1999 unless, before that day, relevant information has been provided to theCommission which has led to the location of remains to which the information relates, or

(b) if the information mentioned in paragraph (a) has been provided,”); which being objected to, thequestion was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 121

Not-Contents … … … … … 129

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.

Ampthill, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.

BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Brookeborough, V.

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Cadman, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrington, L.Chalfont, L. [Teller]Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Cockfield, L.Coleridge, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Davidson, V.Denham, L.Drogheda, E.Dunleath, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Enniskillen, E.Exmouth, V.Fitt, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glentoran, L.Gray of Contin, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.

Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jopling, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kintore, E.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Leathers, V.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Milverton, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Newall, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.

Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, LGrenfell, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, BHilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.

Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peyton of Yeovil, LPilkington of Oxenford, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Rathcavan, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Ridley, V.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.St. Davids, V.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Swinfen, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Trumpington, B. [Teller]Vivian, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Young, B.

Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Paul, L.

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Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.

Division No. 2

NORTHERN IRELAND (LOCATION OF VICTIMS’ REMAINS) BILLIt was moved by the Lord Tebbit, in Clause 2, page 2, line 34, at end to insert:

(“( ) No order may be made under subsection (5) unless the Secretary of State is satisfied that allwitnesses giving evidence to the Bloody Sunday Inquiry will be guaranteed anonymity.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 114

Not-Contents … … … … … 126

CONTENTS

Abercorn D.Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Boardman, L.Bowness, LBrabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Brookeborough, VBrougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Carew, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrington, L.Chalfont, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleridge, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Denham, L.

Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.

Dixon-Smith, L.Dunleath, L.Elton, L.Fookes, B.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glentoran, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Kinnoull, E.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.

Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rennell, L.Ridley, V.Roberts of Conwy, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Seccombe, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Stewartby, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Tebbit, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Young, B.

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Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.

Die Martis 25) Maii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.

Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.

Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L. [Teller]Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.

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Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birkett, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.

Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devon, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dickinson, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.

Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forteviot, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hambro, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.

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Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kimball, L.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.

Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.

Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Polwarth, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.

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Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

Judicial Business

1. Scandecor Development AB (Appellants) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others (Respondents)and one other action (England)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time forlodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extendedto 5th July next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed (lodged 24th May).

2. Baxter (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Camden (Respondents) (England)—It was ordered that the appellant be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usualsecurity for costs as required by Standing Order (lodged 24th May).

3. Regina v. West Dorset District Council (Respondents) ex parte Searle (A.P.) (Petitioner)—Thepetitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

4. Johnson (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 32nd Report:Morgan and others (Respondents) v. Morris (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—Thatthe respondents’ costs be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordance with section 18 of theLegal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended until 22nd June to enable the Legal Aid Boardto object if they wish.

6. Appeal Committee—The 36th Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the Report was agreed to and the following Orders were made:Regina v. West Dorset District Council (Respondents) ex parte Searle (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance withthe Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in

Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.

Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Willoughby de Eresby, B.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Woolton, E.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Petitioners) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by8th June next.Johnson (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—That leave to appealbe given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 8th June next.

Papers

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Education (Governors’ Annual Reports) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under the School

Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1406)2. Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993 (Addition of Qualifying Judicial OYces)

Order 1999, laid under the Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993. (1454)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998 of the Charity Commissioners for England and Wales, laid under the

Charities Act 1993;2. Report for 1998 of the Insolvency Service, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986.

Select Committee Reports

9. Statutory Instruments—The 20th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Clinical Scientists Board) Order ofCouncil 1999;Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Speech and Language Therapists Board)Order of Council 1999;Draft Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Paramedics Board) Order of Council 1999;Draft International Copper Study Group (Legal Capacities) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 64)

10. House of Lords’ OYces—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); itwas ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 65)

Public Business

11. House of Lords Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee (on recommitment) upon the billin respect of clause 2; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list); amendments weremoved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

12. Dietary supplements—The Earl Baldwin of Bewdley asked Her Majesty’s Government what stepsthe Department of Health are taking to preserve the public’s access to a full range of safedietary supplements; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.

13. House of Lords Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee (on recommitment) uponthe bill in respect of clause 2; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed and clause 2 was reported without amendment.

The House was adjourned at six minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank, in Clause 2, page 1, line 8, to leave out (“StandingOrders of the House”) and insert (“in section (2) of this section”); which being objected to, the questionwas put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 50

Not-Contents … … … … … 288

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Addington, L.Ailsa, M.Avebury, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Clement-Jones, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dholakia, L. [Teller]Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Geraint, L.Goodhart, L.Grey, E.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Broughman and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterworth, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.

Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Jacobs, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Kirkwood, L.Lester of Herne Hill, LLinklater of Butterstone, B..Ludford, B.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Newby, L. [Teller]Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.

Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cox, B.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Davies of Coity, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.

Perry of Walton, L.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rochester, L.Rogers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Smith of Clifton, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Williams of Crosby, B.

Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Forteviot, L.Frazer of Carmyllie, L.Gainford, LGardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Hereford, Bp.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.

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Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kelvedon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.

APPENDIX

Second Report from the Select Committeeon the House of Lords’ OYces

Tuesday 25th May 1999

By the Select Committee appointed to consider the House of Lords’ OYces

Ordered to Report—The Committee have met and been attended by the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentleman Usher of

the Black Rod.

1. Record Copies of ActsThe Committee recommends that the record copies of Acts of Parliament, kept in the House of Lords

Record OYce, should be printed on archival paper instead of vellum, with eVect from the first Act of the year2000. With the agreement of the Master of the Rolls and the Keeper of the Public Records, the productionof the second record copy of each Act for the Public Record OYce should cease.

When the Parliament Rolls of Acts of Parliament were discontinued in 1849, it was resolved by both Housesthat two copies of every Act, whether Public or Private, should be printed on vellum, one to be stored in theRecord Tower (now the House of Lords Record OYce) and the other with the Master of the Rolls (now the

Montrose, D.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nicol, B.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Runciman of Doxford, V.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaw of Northstead, L.

Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Trefgarne, L.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walpole, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Woolton, E.Young, B.

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Public Record OYce). The former copy is authenticated by the Clerk of the Parliaments as the oYcialauthority for the published text of an Act. In 1956 vellum was replaced by archival paper for Private Acts.The increasing scarcity and expense of vellum and the printing constraints which it imposes have now led tothe proposal that Public Acts should be similarly treated.

On the advice of conservation experts at the British Library, archival paper has been identified with aproven life expectancy of 250 years and a probable life expectancy exceeding 500 years in good archivalconditions. It is superior to vellum for print quality, is less bulky, and avoids the use of animal products. Thevalue of the potential saving is about £30,000 a year.

Resolutions of both Houses would be needed to give eVect to this recommendation. The Committee hasbeen informed that a comparable recommendation is being made by the Administration Committee of theHouse of Commons.

2. Smoking in the House of LordsFollowing the Report of the Informal Group on Smoking (copies of which are available in the Printed

Paper OYce and the Library of the House), the Committee makes the following recommendations:(i) Smoking should be banned in lavatories and telephone kiosks;(ii) Smoking should be banned in Committee rooms, unless, at a private meeting of a Committee, that

Committee specially gives permission at the time.

3. Lords Reimbursement AllowancesThe Committee was informed that from 1st April 1999 the motor mileage allowance had been increased

by 1.1 pence to 51.2 pence for the first 20,000 miles for the period to 31st March 2000. Further mileage in thisperiod would be payable at the rate of 23.6 pence per mile.

The Committee was further informed that from 1st April 1999 the bicycle allowance had been increasedby 0.1 pence to 6.5 pence per mile.

4. House of Lords Families RoomThe Committee welcomes the provision of a room for the use of immediate family members of Peers. The

Room is not intended to be used as a work or meeting room. It is to be a no smoking area.

Die Mercurii 26) Maii 1999The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.

Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.

Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carr of Hadley, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.

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Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromer, E.Cross, V.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.

Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.

Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.O’Neill, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.

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Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Perth, E.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rollo, L.Rothermere, V.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1. Viscount Rothermere—Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Viscount Rothermere sat first inParliament after the death of his father, Vere Harold Esmond Viscount Rothermere, havingfirst taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

2. Oath—Evelyn Rowland Esmond Earl of Cromer took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

3. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Acts:Scottish Enterprise Act c. 5Rating (Valuation) Act c. 6Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Act c. 7

Judicial Business

4. Xydhias (Appellant) v. Xydhias (A.P.) (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of Harry CostasXydhias was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI thestatement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 7th July next.

5. Three Rivers District Council and others (Appellants) v. Governor and Company of the Bank ofEngland (Respondents) (Second Appeal) (England)—The appeal of Three Rivers DistrictCouncil and Bank of Credit and Commerce International SA (in liquidation) was presentedand it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendixthereto be lodged on or before 7th July next.

6. Dimond (Petitioner) v. Lovell (Respondent)—The petition of Vanessa Dawn Dimond praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

7. In re P (a minor) and others (Petitioners)—The petition of the mother and father praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

8. Holland (Appellant) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing andreferred to an Appellate Committee.

Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.

Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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9. Canada Trust Company (Acting in its capacity as Trustee of the Chrysler Canada Ltd’s BenefitsPlan, the Chrysler Canada Ltd Master Trust Fund, The Chrysler Canada Ltd Non-CanadianMaster Trust Fund and the Holmes Foundry Division Master Trust Fund) and others(Respondents) v. Stolzenberg and Gambazzi and others (Appellants) and others—The appealwas set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

10. Regina v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Appellant) ex parte Kebeline and others (Respondents)(On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was setdown for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

11. Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 33rd Report:Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Blake (Petitioner) and another—That leaveto appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 9th June next.Garner (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Pounds Shipowners andShipbreakers Limited (Petitioners) and one other action—That leave to appeal be given, andthat the petition of appeal be lodged by 9th June next.

12. Appeal Committee—The 37th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Hindley (A.P.)(Appellant)—That the petition of Justice that they might intervene by way of writtensubmissions in the said appeal be allowed.

Papers

13. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Report for 1999 of the Bank of England; (—)2. Debt— Exchanges of Notes between the United Kingdom and Peru concerning Certain

Commercial Debts:(i) United Kingdom/Peru Debt Agreement No. 4 (1993); (4356)(ii) United Kingdom/Peru Debt Agreement No. 5 (1996); (4357)

3. Human Rights—Protocol No. 11 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rightsand Fundamental Freedoms, restructuring the control machinery established thereby;

(4353)4. Countryside Agency—Government Response to the 4th Report of the House of

Commons Environment, Transport and Regional AVairs Committee on the CountrysideAgency. (4359)

14. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Local Authorities (Contracting Out of Highway Functions) Order 1999;2. Draft Scottish Parliament (Assistance for Registered Political Parties) Order 1999;3. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedules 4 and 5) Order 1999;4. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order

1999;5. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Border Rivers) Order 1999;6. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functions

etc.) Order 1999;7. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Functions Exercisable in or as Regards Scotland) Order 1999;8. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Functions) Order 1999;9. Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 2) Order 1999.

15. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Adoption (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Adoption Act 1976; (1477)2. (i) Education Development Plans (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1439)

(ii) Education (Inspection of Nursery Education) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1441)laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;

3. Education (Special Educational Needs) (Information) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laidunder the Education Act 1996; (1442)

4. Education (School Inspection) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under theSchool Inspections Act 1996; (1440)

5. (i) Misuse of Drugs (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1404)

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(ii) Misuse of Drugs (Safe Custody) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1403)laid under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971;

6. Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 5) Regulations1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (1411)

7. Rail Vehicle Accessibility (LTS Rail Class 357 Vehicles) Exemption Order 1999, laidunder the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; (1448)

8. Railways Act 1993 (Consequential Modifications) Order 1999, laid under the RailwaysAct 1993; (1443)

9. Statute made by Wadham College, Oxford on 21st January 1999, laid under theUniversities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. (—)

16. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1995–98 of the Board of Trustees of the Victoria and Albert Museum, laid

under the National Heritage Act 1983;2. Account for 1997–98 of the United Kingdom Central Council for Nursing, Midwifery

and Health Visiting, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General,laid under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997.

Public Business

17. Greater London Authority Bill—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Lord Whitty,that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Greater LondonAuthority Bill has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clauses 1 and 2 Clauses 200 to 202Schedule 1 Schedule 15Clauses 3 and 4 Clause 203Schedule 2 Schedule 16Clauses 5 to 17 Clause 204Schedule 3 Schedule 17Clauses 18 to 30 Clauses 205 to 228Schedule 4 Schedule 18Clauses 31 to 72 Clause 229Schedule 5 Schedule 19Clauses 73 to 83 Clauses 230 to 242Schedule 6 Schedule 20Clauses 84 to 118 Clause 243Schedule 7 Schedule 21Clauses 119 to 133 Clauses 244 to 257Schedule 8 Schedule 22Clauses 134 to 136 Clause 258Schedule 9 Schedules 23 and 24Clauses 137 to 176 Clauses 259 to 300Schedules 10 and 11 Schedule 25Clauses 177 to 194 Clauses 301 to 320Schedule 12 Schedule 26Clauses 195 to 197 Clauses 321 to 328Schedule 13 Schedule 27Clauses 198 and 199 Clauses 329 and 330;Schedule 14

the motion was agreed to.

18. Employment Relations Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey, on behalf of theLord Simon of Highbury, that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House towhom the Employment Relations Bill has been committed that they consider the bill in thefollowing order:

Clause 1 Schedule 5Schedule 1 Clauses 15 to 25Clause 2 Schedule 6Schedule 2 Clauses 26 and 27Clauses 3 and 4 Schedule 7Schedule 3 Clauses 28 to 35Clauses 5 to 9 Schedule 8Schedule 4 Clauses 36 to 38;Clauses 10 to 14

the motion was agreed to.

19. Middle East (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Kennet that there be laid before the Housepapers relating to the developments in the greater Middle East; after debate, the motion was(by leave of the House) withdrawn.

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20. Regional museums and galleries (Short debate)—It was moved by the Earl of Clancarty that therebe laid before the House papers relating to the role of the regional museums and galleries(particularly local authority museums) within the United Kingdom; after debate, the motionwas (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

21. European Convergence Criteria—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey that this Houseapproves, for the purposes of section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993,Her Majesty’s Government’s assessment as set out in the Financial Statement and BudgetReport 1999–2000 and the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report 1999–2000; the motion wasagreed to.

22. Inheritance tax—The Lord Chesham asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they haveconsidered the eVects of their changes to conditional inheritance tax exemptions aspromulgated in the Finance Act 1998 and whether they are prepared to reconsider therequirements in relation to items held on private property; after debate, the question wasanswered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

23. Local Government (Organisation and Standards)—A message was brought from the Commonsthat they have ordered:That a Select Committee of eight Members be appointed to join with the committee to beappointed by the Lords to consider the draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards)Bill published in the Command Paper entitled Local Leadership, Local Choice (Cm. 4298);That three be the quorum of the Committee;That the Committee shall have power—

(i) to send for persons, papers and records;(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;(iii) to report from time to time;(iv) to appoint specialist advisers;(v) to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom; and(vi) to communicate to any Select Committee appointed by either House its evidence andany documents of common interest;

That the Committee shall report by 31st July 1999.The House was adjourned at eight minutes past ten o’clock

till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barber, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brain, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.

Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.

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Clark of Kempston, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cullen of Ashbourne, L.Cumberlege, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dunrossil, V.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Enniskillen, E.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.

Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rennell, L.

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Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1. The Baroness Arlington—The Lord Chancellor informed the House that Her Majesty had beenpleased to determine the abeyance of the Barony of Arlington in favour of Mrs Jennifer JaneForwood and explained to the House Her Ladyship’s descent; then Her Ladyship was calledin and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—Theappeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Tower Hamlets London

Borough Council) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1988; (1405)2. Horse Racing (Charges on Bookmakers) Order (Northern Ireland), laid under the

Northern Ireland Act 1974; (—)3. Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Act 1999 (Immunities and Privileges)

Order 1999, laid under the Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Act 1999.(1437)

4. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Police (Secretary of State’s Objectives) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Police Act 1996.

(1415)

Select Committee Reports

5. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:16th Report, on the following bills:

Greater London Authority Bill;Protection of Children Bill. (HL Paper 67)

6. Financial Services and Markets—The 2nd Report from the Joint Committee was made; it wasordered that the Report be printed, together with the minutes of proceedings and minutes ofevidence. (HL Paper 66)

Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.

Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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7. Consolidation Bills—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that, pursuant to Standing Order 49,the following Lords be appointed to join with a Committee of the Commons as the JointCommittee on Consolidation Bills:

E. Alexander of Tunis L. Hobhouse of WoodboroughL. Clyde L. Janner of BraunstoneV. Colville of Culross B. MallalieuV. Dilhorne L. MestonL. Hacking L. RazzallL. Campbell of Alloway L. Strabolgi;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of aChairman; andThat the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if theCommittee think fit, be printed and delivered out;the motion was agreed to.

8. Local Government (Organisation and Standards)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committeesthat the Commons message of yesterday be now considered and that a Select Committee ofeight Lords be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons, to considerthe draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill, published in the CommandPaper entitled Local Leadership, Local Choice (Cm. 4298);That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Bassam of Brighton L. MarlesfordL. Bowness L. Pilkington of OxenfordE. Carnarvon L. Ponsonby of ShulbredeB. Hamwee B. Thornton;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of aChairman;That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if theCommittee think fit, be printed and delivered out;That the Committee shall report by 31st July;and that the Committee do meet with any committee appointed by the Commons on Tuesday15th June at half past three o’clock in Committee Room 4;the motion was agreed to.

9. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]—The report was received; amendments were movedand (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that thebill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 65)

10. Genetic Modification in Agriculture (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Reay that thisHouse take note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on EC Regulationof Genetic Modification in Agriculture (2nd Report, HL Paper 11); after debate, the motionwas agreed to.

11. Obscenity Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and, after debate, was passed and sent to theCommons.

The House was adjourned at twenty-two minutes before six o’clockto Monday 7th June, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 7) Junii 1999The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.

Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

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Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.

Crickhowell, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.

Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haslam, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.

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Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford and Asquith, E.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

1. Oath—Julian Edward George Earl of Oxford and Asquith took and subscribed the oath pursuantto statute.

Judicial Business

2. Arthur J S Hall & Co (Appellants) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent) (England)—The appeal ofArthur J S Hall & Co was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th July next (lodged2nd June).

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Cockbone (Respondent) v. Atkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) (Appellants) (England)—Theappeal of Atkinson Dacre & Slack was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th July next(lodged 28th May).

4. Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Appellants)(England)—The appeal of Anthony Ronald Louis Ansell, Robin Alan Austin, Harvey PhilipIngram, David Patrick Irving, Simon Andrew Gordon Ross, Anthony Maurice Seddon andPaul Ian Woolf was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VIthe statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th July next (lodged 2nd June).

5. Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Appellants) and others (England)—Theappeal of Scholfield Roberts & Hill was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th July next(lodged 2nd June).

6. UCB Home Loans Corporation Limited (Respondents) v. Moore and another (A.P.) (Appellant)(England)—The appeal of Judith Moore was presented and it was ordered that in accordancewith Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th Julynext (lodged 2nd June).

7. Barclays Bank plc (Respondents) v. Harris and another (A.P.) (Appellant) (England)—The appealof Beryl Irene Harris was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 19th July next (lodged 2ndJune).

8. Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Appellants) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others (Respondents)(England)—The appeal of Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma was presented and it wasordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto belodged on or before 19th July next.

9. D’Souza (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Lambeth (Respondents)—The petition of DonaldClaudius D’Souza praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee (lodged 15th January).

10. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex parte Elshani(A.P.) (Petitioner) and another—The petition of Agon Elshani praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate waslodged. (lodged 27th May).

11. Twinsectra Limited (Respondents) v. Yardley and others (Petitioners)—The petition of Paul Leach& Company (a firm) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee (lodged 27th May).

12. Clark (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Cleveland Police (Petitioner)—The petition of the ChiefConstable of Cleveland Police praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

13. Pavel (Petitioner) v. Sony Corporation and others (Respondents)—The petition of Andreas Pavelpraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

14. In re Pinto (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of AgnaldoErnesto Pinto praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of JusticeAct 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 2nd June).

15. Baxter (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Camden (Respondents)—The appealwas set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

16. B (by his mother and next friend) (Appellant) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent)(On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal was setdown for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

17. Goodes (A.P.) (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants)—The petition of theappellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 14th July next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

18. Regina v. Westminster City Council and others and the Secretary of State for Health (Appellant)ex parte A, P, M and X (Respondents)—

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19. Regina v. Westminster City Council (Appellants) ex parte A (Respondent)—

(Conjoined appeals)—

Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), it wasordered that the appeals be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs.

20. Arthur J S Hall & Co (Appellants) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—It was ordered that theappellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs asrequired by Standing Order.

21. Three Rivers District Council and others (Appellants) v. Governor and Company of the Bank ofEngland (Respondents) (Second Appeal)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed toprosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.

22. Regina v. Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Respondent) ex parte Watt (A.P.) (Petitioner)(Northern Ireland)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

23. Command Paper—The following paper, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on 4th June, was ordered to lie on the Table:

Millennium Dome—Government response to the 3rd Report of the House of CommonsCulture, Media and Sport Committee: Back to the Dome. (4360)

24. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:

S.I. No. Date ofTitle, etc. 1999 laying

Education (Mandatory Awards) Regulations 1999, laid under the 1494 28th MayEducation Act 1962;

Foundation Body Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards 1502 28th Mayand Framework Act 1998;

Water Supply (Water Fittings) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid 1506 28th Mayunder the Water Industry Act 1991;

Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Supply, Sale and Export of 1516 2nd JunePetroleum and Petroleum Products) (No. 2) Regulations 1999, laidunder the European Communities Act 1972;

(i) Education (Assisted Places) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— 1504 3rd June

(ii) Education (Assisted Places) (Incidental Expenses) (Amendment) 1505 3rd JuneRegulations 1999—

laid under the Education (Schools) Act 1997;

Education (Grants) (Music, Ballet and Choir Schools) (Amendment) 1503 3rd JuneRegulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1996;

Olive Oil (Designations of Origin) Regulations 1999, laid under the 1513 3rd JuneEuropean Communities Act 1972;

Statute made by the University of Cambridge on 21st December — 3rd June1998, laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act1923;

Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) Regulations 1521 3rd June1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988;

Food Labelling (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid under 1483 4th Junethe Food Safety Act 1990;

Education (Individual Pupils’ Achievements) (Information) (Wales) 1497 4th June(Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act1996;

Social Security Amendment (Non-Cash Vouchers) Regulations 1509 4th June1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and BenefitsAct 1992.

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25. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Education (Schedule 32 to the School Standards and Framework Act 1998) (Wales)

Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1469)2. Smoke Control Areas (Exempted Fireplaces) Order 1999, laid under the Clean Air Act

1993; (1515)3. (i) Animal FeedingstuVs from Belgium (Control) Regulations 1999— (1543)

(ii) Cosmetic Products (Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1552)(iii) Natural Mineral Water, Spring Water and Bottled Drinking Water Regulations

1999— (1540)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

4. Food (Animals and Animal Products from Belgium) (Emergency Control) Order 1999,laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (1542)

5. Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (General) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations1999, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992. (1539)

26. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Account of income and expenditure for 1998 of the General Dental Council, laid under theDentists Act 1984.

Public Business

27. Local Government Bill—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the amendments for the Reportstage be marshalled and considered in the following order:

Clauses 1 to 29 Schedule 2Schedule 1 Clauses 34 and 35;Clauses 30 to 33

the motion was agreed to.

28. Employment Relations Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed.

29. King’s Manor School, Guildford—The Baroness Sharp of Guildford asked Her Majesty’sGovernment whether they welcome Surrey County Council’s decision to seek private sectorbids for the running of King’s Manor School, Guildford; and, if so, whether they will lay downguidelines for the procedures to be adopted by local education authorities seeking similar bidsin the future; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

30. Employment Relations Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 233.

The House was adjourned at twenty-one minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 8) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.

Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.

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Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Brentford, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Camoys, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.

Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.

Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.

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Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leigh, L.Lincoln, Bp.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.

Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.

Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Judicial Business

1. Johnson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents) (England)—The appeal ofWilliam Henry John Johnson was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 20th July next.

2. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Blake (Appellant) and another (England)—Theappeal of George Blake was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with StandingOrder VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 20th July next.

3. Garner (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Pounds Shipowners and ShipbreakersLimited (Petitioners) and one other action (England)—The appeal of Pounds Shipowners &Shipbreakers Limited and Henry Richard Pounds was presented and it was ordered that inaccordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before20th July next.

4. Regina v. Leeds Crown Court ex parte Callaghan (Petitioner)—The petition of Terrence Callaghanpraying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 7th June).

5. Three Rivers District Council and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents) v.Governor and Company of the Bank of England (Original Respondents and Cross-Appellants)—The petition of the original appellants praying that the time for lodging thestatement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 20th Julynext (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered asprayed.

6. Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Appellants) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others(Respondents)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal withoutgiving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.

7. Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Blake (Appellant) and another—It was orderedthat the appellant be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costsas required by Standing Order.

8. Baxter (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Camden (Respondents)—Theappellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Seeds (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Plant Varieties and Seeds

Act 1964; (1553)2. Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Local

Government Finance Act 1992; (1522)3. (i) Public Interest Disclosure (Compensation) Regulations 1999— (1548)

(ii) Public Interest Disclosure (Prescribed Persons) Order 1999— (1549)laid under the Employment Rights Act 1996;

4. Bovines and Bovine Products (Trade) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under theEuropean Communities Act 1972; (1554)

5. Draft code of practice on school admission appeals, laid under the School Standards andFramework Act 1998.

6. Financial Services Act 1986 (Overseas Investment Exchanges and Overseas ClearingHouses) (Periodical Fees) Regulations 1999, laid under the Financial Services Act 1986;

(1576)7. Contaminants in Food (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act

1990; (1603)

Warner, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.

Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Young, B.

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8. Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1999,laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts of the Welsh Language Board for 1998–99, together with the Report of the

Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Welsh Language Act 1993;2. Report of the Scottish Legal Services Ombudsman for 1998, laid under the Law Reform

(Miscellaneous Provisions) (Scotland) Act 1990;3. Report of the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration for 1997–98, laid under the

Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994;4. Statements of Guarantee on loans proposed to be raised by:

(i) Kent Ambulance—(ii) Kent and Sussex Weald—NHS Trust, laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Select Committee Report

11. European Communities—The 10th Report from the Select Committee, Fingerprinting IllegalImmigrants: Extending the Eurodac Convention, was made; it was ordered that the Reportbe printed, together with the Minutes of Evidence. (HL Paper 69)

Private Business

12. Special Procedure Order —The following petitions were deposited against the City of Stoke-on-Trent Tunstall Northern By-Pass Local Government Act Compulsory Purchase Order 1997on or before 8th June:

Name of Petitioner By whom deposited

1. Packmoor Area Residents Association Dr Janine F. Bridges2. Newchapel Riders Association Dr Janine F. Bridges3. Cllr Ann Elizabeth James Dr Janine F. Bridges4. Ian Norris Dr Janine F. Bridges5. Gary Challinor Dr Janine F. Bridges6. John Benjamin Edwards Dr Janine F. Bridges7. Mr Robert Cooper and Miss Lisa Johnson Dr Janine F. Bridges8. Mr Leslie Tilsley and Mr Alan GriYths Dr Janine F. Bridges9. Denise Wiggin Dr Janine F. Bridges

10. Cllr. Charles Lee Wanger and Shereen Dr Janine F. BridgesVictoria Wanger

11. Mrs Claire Weatherall and Mr Mark John EdwardsWeatherall

12. Darren Jones John Edwards13. Mrs Lorraine Tyer John Edwards14. Mrs Lee Chidlow John Edwards15. Maurice Booth John Edwards16. Yasmin Qureshi John Edwards17. Alan Armstrong John Edwards18. Jacqueline, Daniel and Ashley Wootton, Joy John Edwards

Preece and Colin Dale, and Stephen Talbot19. Yvonne Sanders and Ellen Sanders Dr Janine F. Bridges20. Mr Nigel Hughes and Mrs Sandra Hughes Dr Janine F. Bridges21. Dr Janine F. Bridges and Miss Cathrine Ann Dr Janine F. Bridges

Taylor

Public Business

13. Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]—A bill to make further provision about theenforcement of requirements relating to drivers’ hours and about the licensing of the operatorsof goods vehicles; and for connected purposes was presented by the Earl Attlee, read a firsttime and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 66)

14. Ecclesiastical Committee—The following Measure and Report of the Ecclesiastical Committeethereon were laid before the House (pursuant to section 4 of the Church of England Assembly(Powers) Act 1919) and ordered to be printed:Care of Places of Worship Measure and 213th Report of the Committee thereon. (HLPapers 68–I and 68–II)

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15. Tax Credits Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were moved and (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list); amendments wereagreed to; then the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

16. Water Industry Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn.

17. Northern Ireland (Emergency and Prevention of Terrorism Provisions) (Continuance) Order1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th Maybe approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at twenty-five minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

TAX CREDITS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Astor of Hever, in Clause 2, page 1, line 18, after (“(2)”) to insert (“andsection 5(1A)”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 113

Not-Contents … … … … … 153

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alton of Liverpool, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berners, B.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundee, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Ferrers, E.Freeman, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Gray, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harrowby, E.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.HolmPatrick, L.Howe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jopling, L.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lauderdale, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Manton, L.Marlesford, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monro of Langholm, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.

Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renwick, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rotherwick, L.St. Davids, V.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandys, L.Seccombe, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Young, B.

Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.

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Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dunleath, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.

Die Mercurii 9) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.McCarthy, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Newby, L.Orme, L.

Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.

Paul, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.

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Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craigavon, V.

Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dulverton, L.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.

Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haslam, L.Hayman, B.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.Inge, L.Ironside, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jersey, E.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.

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Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.

Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saint Oswald, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selsdon, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.

Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Judicial Business

1. Twinsectra Limited (Respondents) v. Yardley and others (Petitioners) (Second petition)—Thepetition of Yardley Commercial Vehicles Limited, Maltsword Limited, Y C Sales Limited andMaltsword Properties Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

2. Regina v. Leeds Crown Court (Respondents) ex parte Stubley (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition ofDean Stubley praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged andfor leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960, was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Regina v. Leeds Crown Court (Respondents) ex parte Wardle (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition ofMichael John Wardle praying for an extension of time within which the petition may belodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960, waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate waslodged.

4. Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Appellant) and one other action—The petition ofthe appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 27th July next (the agents for the respondentsconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Regina v. Leeds Crown Court ex parte Callaghan (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

Papers

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Appropriation (No. 2) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) (No. 2)

Order 1999— (—)(ii) National Savings Bank (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1999— (1611)

laid under the National Savings Bank Act 1971;2. Home-Grown Cereals Authority (Rate of Levy) Order 1999, laid under the Cereals

Marketing Act 1965; (1577)3. (i) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Complaints of

Maladministration) Amendment Order 1999— (1595)(ii) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Laying of Reports)

Order 1999— (1594)(iii) Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Orders subject to

Special Parliamentary Procedure) Order 1999— (1593)(iv) Scotland Act 1998 (Concurrent Functions) Order 1999— (1592)

laid under the Scotland Act 1998;4. Goods Infringing Intellectual Property Rights (Customs) Regulations 1999, laid under

the European Communities Act 1972; (1601)5. Education (Annual Parents’ Meetings) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under the School

Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1407)6. National Assembly for Wales (Local Government (Contracts) Act 1997) (Modifications)

Order 1999, laid under the Government of Wales Act 1998; (1545)7. Food Safety (Fishery Products and Live Shellfish) (Hygiene) Amendment (No. 2)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (1585)8. National Lottery etc. Act 1993 (Amendment of Section 23) Order 1999, laid under the

National Lottery etc. Act 1993; (1563)9. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (West Glamorgan and South Wales) Amalgamation

Order 1999, laid under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997; (1609)10. Energy Information (Lamps) Regulations 1999, laid under the European Communities

Act 1972; (1517)11. Water Supply (Water Quality) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Water

Industry Act 1991; (1524)

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12. Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Bournemouth,Harrogate, Poole and Worthing Borough Councils) Order 1999, laid under the LocalGovernment Act 1988; (1538)

13. Civil Aviation (Route Charges for Navigation Services) (Third Amendment) Regulations1999, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982; (1544)

14. Housing Renewal Grants (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the HousingGrants, Construction and Regeneration Act 1996. (1523)

8. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998 of the Commission for Racial Equality, laid under the Race Relations

Act 1976;2. Fourth Report for Session 1998–99 of the Health Service Commissioner on investigations

of complaints about clinical failings, laid under the Health Service Commissioners Act1993;

3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Public Health Laboratory Service Board, together with thereport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Health ServiceAct 1977.

Private Business

9. University College London Bill—The bill was reported from the Unopposed Bill Committeewithout amendment.

Public Business

10. Local Government (Organisation and Standards)—A message was brought from the Commonsthat they have ordered that the Committee appointed by them do meet with the LordsCommittee on Tuesday 15th June at half-past three o’clock in Committee Room 4, asproposed by this House.

11. Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relatingto the bill be printed. (HL Bill 66–EN)

12. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that the debate on themotion in the name of the Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge set down for today shall be limited to3° hours and that in the name of the Viscount Montgomery of Alamein to 2° hours; themotion was agreed to.

13. Sport (3°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge that there be laid beforethe House papers relating to measures to improve sport in the United Kingdom; after debate,the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

14. Latin America (2°-hour debate)—It was moved by the Viscount Montgomery of Alamein thatthere be laid before the House papers relating to political developments in Latin America;after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

15. Artificial limbs—The Lord Rowallan asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they will considerallowing the limbless a greater choice in deciding who their prosthetist should be and whattype of artificial limb to purchase, by introducing a voucher scheme; after debate, the questionwas answered by the Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.

The House was adjourned at seven minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, three o’clock.

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Die Jovis 10) Junii 1999The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Briggs, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.

Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.

Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.

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Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Head, V.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.

Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.

Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Shuttleworth, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Judicial Business

1. Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC) (Formerly known as Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC)Limited) (Respondents) v. Langton (Petitioner) and another—The petition of Sarah LouiseLangton praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Xydhias (Appellant) v. Xydhias (A.P.) (Respondent)—It was ordered that the appeal be dismissedin accordance with Standing Order V, the appellant having failed to give security for costs by9th June.

3. Taylor (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Respondent) (Scotland)—The petition of theappellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 22nd July next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

4. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Army Terms of Service (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Armed Forces

Act 1966; (1610)2. National Health Service (General Medical Services) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 3)

Regulations 1999, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; (1620)3. Goods Infringing Intellectual Property Rights (Consequential Provisions) Regulations

1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (1618)4. (i) National Health Service (Indicative Amounts) (Amendment) Regulations 1999—

(1606)(ii) National Health Service (General Medical Services) Amendment (No. 2)

Regulations 1999— (1627)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;

5. Feeding StuVs (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Agriculture Act 1970;(1528)

6. Scotland Act 1998 (Agency Arrangements) (Specification) Order 1999, laid under theScotland Act 1998; (1512)

7. Court Funds (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the Judicature(Northern Ireland) Act 1978. (—)

Private Business

5. Imperial College Bill—The Queen’s Consent was signified and the bill was reported from theUnopposed Bill Committee without amendment.

Public Business

6. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the billbe now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committedto a Committee of the Whole House.

Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.

Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Wise, L.Young, B.

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7. Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Speech and Language Therapists Board) Order ofCouncil 1999—

8. Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Clinical Scientists Board) Order of Council 1999—

9. Professions Supplementary to Medicine (Paramedics Board) Order of Council 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hayman, that the three draft Orders of Council laid before theHouse on 18th May be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

Die Veneris 11) Junii 1999The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bethell, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bradford, Bp.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cockfield, L.

Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dormand of Easington, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.

Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.McCarthy, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Marsh, L.Meston, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Noel-Buxton, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

Papers

1. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Lands Tribunal (Salaries) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999, laid under the Northern

Ireland Act 1974; (—)2. Excise Goods (Sales on Board Ships and Aircraft) Regulations 1999, laid under the

European Communities Act 1972. (1565)

Public Business

2. Protection of Children Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedand the bill was reported without amendment.

3. Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Soulsby of SwaVham Priorthat the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

4. Academic and Academic-Related StaV Pay and Conditions Bill [hl]—It was moved by the LordMcCarthy that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to andthe bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

5. Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill—A bill to make provision for giving eVect to the Conventionon Protection of Children and Co-operation in respect of Intercountry Adoption, concludedat the Hague on 29th May 1993; to make further provision in relation to adoptions with aninternational element; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read afirst time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 67)

6. Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to thebill be printed. (HL Bill 67–EN)

7. Football (OVences and Disorder) Bill—A bill to make further provision in relation to football-related oVences; to make further provision for the purpose of preventing violence or disorderat or in connection with football matches; and for connected purposes was brought from theCommons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 68)

8. Football (OVences and Disorder) Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to thebill be printed. (HL Bill 68–EN)

9. Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Lucas of Chilworth that the bill benow read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed toa Committee of the Whole House.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before five o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Russell, E.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.

Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Wise, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.

Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.

Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.

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Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.

Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.

Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

1. Oath—George John Patrick Dominic Marquess Townshend took and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Westacre Investments Inc (a company incorporated under the laws of Panama) (Respondents) v.Jugoimport-SDPR Holding Company Limited (formerly Federal Directorate of Supply andProcurement an agency of the Federal Secretariat of National Defence of the SocialistRepublic of Yugoslavia) and others (Petitioners) and one other action—The petition ofBeogradska Banka DD and the state owned company Yugoimport SDPR praying for leaveto appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Regina v. Ministry of Defence (Respondents) ex parte Walker (Appellant)—The appeal was setdown for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

4. Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB) (Respondents) v. StargasLimited and others (Respondents) and Bergesen D.Y. A/S ‘Berge Sisar’ (Appellants)—Thepetition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 27th July next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Borealis AB (formerly Borealis Petrokemi AB and Statoil Petrokemi AB) (Appellants) v. StargasLimited and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time forlodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extendedto 27th July next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

6. Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Appellants)—It wasordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usualsecurity for costs as required by Standing Order.

7. Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Appellants) and others—It was orderedthat the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security forcosts as required by Standing Order.

8. Colley (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and another (Respondents)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

9. Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC) (formerly known as Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC)Limited) (Respondents) v. Langton (A.P.) (Petitioner) and another—The petitioner’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

10. Appeal Committee—The 38th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Eastbourne Town Radio Cars Association (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs andExcise (Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

11. Appeal Committee—The 39th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Constantinou (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Aegon Insurance Company (U.K) Limited and others(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply fortheir costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Midland Bank plc (Respondents) v. Wallace and another (A.P) (Petitioner)—That leave toappeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 28th June next.

Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.

Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Gibbs Mew plc (Respondents) v. Gemmel (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—That thepetition be referred for hearing.Passmore (Petitioner) v. Morland plc and others (Respondents)—That the petition be referredfor hearing.Regina v. London Borough of Bromley and others (Respondents) ex parte Crystal PalaceCampaign and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents beat liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application isgranted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Regina v. Norwich City Justices (Respondents) ex parte McKernan (Petitioner)—That thepetition be dismissed as inadmissible.

Papers

12. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Teenage Pregnancy—Teenage Pregnancy: Report by the Social Exclusion Unit. (4342)

13. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Contracting Out (Jury Summoning Functions) Order 1999.

14. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Public Telecommunication System Designation (City Telecom (HK) Limited) Order

1999— (1633)(ii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Belgacom UK Limited) Order

1999— (1636)(iii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (International Optical Network

Limited) Order 1999— (1635)(iv) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Jersey Telecoms) Order 1999—

(1632)(v) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Alpha Telecom Limited) Order

1999— (1634)(vi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Flute Limited) Order 1999—

(1638)(vii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Call–Net (UK) Limited) Order

1999— (1637)(viii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Axxon Telecom Limited) Order

1999— (1628)(ix) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Cyberlight Europe Plc) Order

1999— (1629)(x) Public Telecommunication System Designation (NTT Europe Limited) Order

1999— (1630)(xi) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Japan Telecom UK Limited) Order

1999— (1631)(xii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Zereau Limited) Order 1999—

(1639)(xiii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Eurotunnel Telecommunications

Limited) Order 1999— (1640)laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984;

2. (i) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Borough ofLuton) (Amendment) Order 1999— (1666)

(ii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County ofHertfordshire) (Borough of Watford) (Amendment) Order 1999— (1669)

(iii) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Areas and Special Parking Areas) (City of Oxfordand Parish of North Hinksey) (Amendment) Order 1999— (1668)

(iv) Road TraYc (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County ofBuckinghamshire) (High Wycombe Town Centre) (Amendment) Order 1999—

(1667)laid under the Road TraYc Act 1991;

3. Feeding StuVs (Sampling and Analysis) Regulations 1999, laid under the Agriculture Act1970; (1663)

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4. (i) Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) Amendment (No. 2)Regulations 1999— (1623)

(ii) Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) Amendment (No. 3)Regulations 1999— (1670)laid under the Social Security Act 1998.

15. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Licences granted by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to:(i) International Optical Network Limited—(ii) Call–Net (UK) Limited—(iii) Flute Limited—(iv) Alpha Telecom Limited—(v) Jersey Telecoms—(vi) Belgacom UK Limited—(vii) City Telecom (HK) Limited—(viii) Axxon Telecom Limited—(ix) Japan Telecom UK Limited—(x) NTT Europe Limited—(xi) Cyberlight Europe Plc—(xii) Zereau Limited—(xiii) Eurotunnel Telecommunications Limited—

laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984.

Public Business

16. Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sentto the Commons.

17. Greater London Authority Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedfor a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

18. Adoption and fostering—The Lord Meston asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they haveany proposals to reform the law and practice relating to adoption and fostering; after debate,the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

19. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedafter clause 24 stood part.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes past ten o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Aldenham, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.

Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.

Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attenborough, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.

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Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour, E.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bradford, Bp.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.

Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cowley, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Daresbury, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devon, E.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.

Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Haddington, E.Halsbury, E.Hambro, L.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.

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Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Macpherson of Drumochter, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.

Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rodney, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Rutland, D.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and others andanother (A.P.) (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to anAppellate Committee.

2. Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited) (Respondents) v.Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants prayingthat the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearingmight be extended to 13th July next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

3. Boukssid (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 28th July next (the agents for therespondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

4. Phelps (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon (Respondents)—It wasordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usualsecurity for costs as required by Standing Order.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Food Standards—Government response to the Report of the House of Commons Select

Committee on the draft Food Standards Bill; (4377)2. Faroe Islands—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Denmark and the Faroe

Islands on the maritime delimitation between the United Kingdom and the Faroe Islands.(4373)

Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Townshend, M.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.

Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wigram, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Woolton, E.Wrenbury, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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6. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Public Gas Transporter Pipe-line Works (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972. (1672)

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report of the Rail Regulator for 1998–99, laid under the Railways Act 1993;2. Report of the Crofters Commission for 1998–99, laid under the Crofters (Scotland) Act

1993;3. (i) Report of the Law Commission for 1998—

(ii) Law Commission 7th programme of law reform—laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965.

Select Committee Reports

8. Statutory Instruments—The 21st Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedules 4 and 5) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Functions) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Functions Exercisable in or as Regards Scotland) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functionsetc.) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 2) Order 1999;Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Border Rivers) Order 1999;Draft Scottish Parliament (Assistance for Registered Political Parties) Order 1999;Draft Local Authorities (Contracting Out of Highway Functions) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 70)

9. European Communities—The 11th Report from the Select Committee, Waste Incineration, wasmade; it was ordered that the Report be printed, together with the minutes of evidence. (HLPaper 71)

Public Business

10. House of Lords Bill—The report was received; an amendment was moved and (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); an amendment wasnegatived; further consideration on report was adjourned.

11. Appropriation (No. 2) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that thedraft Order laid before the House on 9th June be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

12. House of Lords Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were disagreed to(see division lists 2 and 3); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn;further consideration on report was adjourned after amendment 20.

13. Health Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with amendments and witha privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendments be printed. (HLBill 69)

The House was adjourned at half-past midnightin the morning of Wednesday 16th June till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Campbell of Alloway, before Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Referendum);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 83

Not-Contents … … … … … 232

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Aldenham, L.Ashbourne, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Bruntisfield, L.Campbell of Alloway, L. [Teller]Carew, L.Chalfont, L. [Teller]CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Cowley, E.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Deedes, L.Devon, E.Donegall, M.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attenborough, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Bowness, L.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.

Erroll, E.Exmouth, V.Falmouth, V.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Forbes, L.Gainford, L.Glenarthur, L.Gormanston, V.Gray, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Hood, V.Hothfield, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Long, V.McConnell, L.Macleod of Borve, B.Merrivale, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.

Carr of Hadley, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Cromwell, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Freyberg, L.Geraint, L.

Monteagle of Brandon, L.Morris, L.Mountgarret, V.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.Oxfuird, V.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Renwick, L.Rodney, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandford, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Torrington, V.Trenchard, V.Waterford, M.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.Wynford, L.

Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayman, B.Hereford, Bp.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchyra, L.

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Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Kirkwood, L.Lauderdale, E.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Ludford, B.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.

Division No. 2

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl Ferrers, in Clause 1, page 1, line 5, leave out (“by virtue of”) and insert(“because he holds”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 62

Not-Contents … … … … … 121

CONTENTS

Ashbourne, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berners, B.Boardman, L.Brentford, V.Clanwilliam, E.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Coleraine, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cross, V.Denham, L.Ellenborough, L.Falmouth, V.Ferrers, E. [Teller]

Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Paul, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandberg, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.

Fisher, L.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Goschen, V.Gray, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hooper, B.Iveagh, E.Jopling, L.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lauderdale, E.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.Mancroft, L.

Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wigram, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Mayhew of Twysden, L. [Teller]Mersey, V.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Northbrook, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Quinton, L.Rathcavan, L.Reay, L.Rennell, L.Romney, E.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Attenborough, L.Bach, L.Berkeley, L.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Division No. 3

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Trefgarne, after Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Life peerages fordisqualified peers); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 47

Not-Contents … … … … … 110

CONTENTS

Astor of Hever, L.Barnard, L.Bathurst, E.Berners, B.Blatch, B.Bridgeman, V.Carnock, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clinton, L.

Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Newby, L.Peston, L.

Coleraine, L.Courtown, E.Cross, V.Dartmouth, E.Devon, E.Dundee, E.Falmouth, V.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.

Tugendhat, L.Waddington, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Young, B.

Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Gray, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Henley, L.Hooper, B.Kingsland, L.Lindsay, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.Mancroft, L.

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Mayhew of Twysden, L.Monk Bretton, L.Montrose, D.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Northbrook, L. [Teller]Northesk, E.

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Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Attenborough, L.Bach, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Watford, L.

Die Mercurii 16) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Aldington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.

Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Romney, E.Sempill, L.Strathclyde, L.

Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Mallalieu, B.Marlesford, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.

Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.

Swansea, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Trenchard, V.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wynford, L.

Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Newby, L.Patel, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.

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Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Birkett, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.

Courtown, E.Cowdray, V.Cowley, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.De Ramsey, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.

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Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lane, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.

Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxford, Bp.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Palumbo, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.

Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sempill, L.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Spens, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

Judicial Business

1. Inco Europe Limited and others (Appellants) v. First Choice Distribution (a firm) and others(Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Petitioner) ex parte Gashi (A.P.)(Respondent)—The respondent’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 33rd Report:MacNiven (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Petitioner) v. Westmoreland InvestmentsLimited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal belodged by 30th June next.

4. Appeal Committee—The 40th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made:Lace Co-ordinates Limited (Petitioners) v. NEM Insurance Company Limited(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to applyfor their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Kelly (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.Regina v. Sandford (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.Birmingham City Council (Petitioners) v. Oakley (A.P.) (Respondent)—That the respondentbe invited to lodge objections by 30th June next.Regina v. Bett (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.Union Carbide Corporation (a body corporate) (Respondents) v. B P Chemicals Limited(Petitioners)—That the petition be referred for hearing.Regina v. Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Respondent) ex parte Watt (A.P.)(Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of thepetitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (NorthernIreland) Order 1981; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(c); and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Competition Commission—Portsmouth & Sunderland Newspapers plc and Johnston

Press PLC/Newsquest (Investments) Limited/News Communications and Media plc: Areport on the proposed transfers of the newspapers of Portsmouth & SunderlandNewspapers plc to Johnston Press PLC, Newsquest (Investments) Limited and NewsCommunications and Media plc; (4358)

2. Scottish Land Court—Report for 1998 of the Scottish Land Court; (4332)3. Nuclear Energy—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Japan for Cooperation

in the Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy; (4370)4. Industrial Development—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Israel on

Bilateral Cooperation in Private Sector Industrial Research and Development, togetherwith an explanatory memorandum. (4374)

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Stansted Airport Aircraft Movement Limit (Amendment) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Magistrates’ Courts Committees (Hereford and Worcester and Shropshire)

Amalgamation Order 1999, laid under the Justices of the Peace Act 1997; (1705)2. Merchant Shipping (Additional Safety Measures for Bulk Carriers) Regulations 1999,

laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (1644)

Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.

Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Education (School Organisation Proposals) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under theSchool Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1671)

4. Local Government OYcers (Political Restrictions) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations1999, laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989. (1665)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Consent to Transfers of Newspapers Following Reports from the Competition

Commission on the Transfers of the Newspapers of Portsmouth & SunderlandNewspapers plc to:(i) Johnston Press PLC—(ii) Newsquest (Investments) Limited—(iii) News Communications and Media plc—

laid under the Fair Trading Act 1973;2. Report for 1998 of the Equal Opportunities Commission: Setting the Agenda for

Equality, laid under the Sex Discrimination Act 1975;3. Reports for 1998–99 of the Health Service Commissioner:

(i) Annual Report (6th Report)—(ii) Investigations Completed (5th Report)—

laid under the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993.

Select Committee Reports

9. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:17th Report, on the following bills:

Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill;Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Bill;Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]; (HL Paper 72)

18th Report, on the proposal for a draft Deregulation (New Year Licensing) Order 1999.(HL Paper 73)

Private Business

10. HFC Bank Bill—The bill was reported from the Unopposed Bill Committee without amendment.

11. City of Stoke-on-Trent Tunstall Northern By-Pass Local Government Act Compulsory PurchaseOrder 1997—It was reported by the Chairman of Committees and the Chairman of Ways andMeans in the House of Commons pursuant to section 3(5) of the Statutory Order (SpecialProcedure) Act 1945, that petitions had been presented against the City of Stoke-on-TrentTunstall Northern By-Pass Local Government Act Compulsory Purchase Order 1997 by:1. Packmoor Area Residents Association2. Newchapel Riders Association3. Cllr Ann Elizabeth James4. Ian Norris5. Gary Challinor6. John Benjamin Edwards7. Mr Robert Cooper and Miss Lisa Johnson8. Mr Leslie Tilsley and Mr Alan GriYths9. Denise Wiggin

10. Cllr. Charles Lee Wanger and Shereen Victoria Wanger11. Mrs Claire Weatherall and Mr Mark Weatherall12. Darren Jones13. Mrs Lorraine Tyer14. Mrs Lee Chidlow15. Maurice Booth16. Yasmin Qureshi17. Alan Armstrong18. Jacqueline, Daniel and Ashley Wootton, Joy Preece and Colin Dale, and Stephen Talbot19. Yvonne Sanders and Ellen Sanders20. Mr Nigel Hughes and Mrs Sandra Hughes

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21. Dr Janine F. Bridges and Miss Cathrine Ann Taylorand had been certified by them as proper to be received and as petitions of general objection.

Public Business

12. House of Lords’ OYces—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the 2nd Report fromthe Select Committee (HL Paper 65) be agreed to; the motion was agreed to.

13. Employment Relations Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment wasagreed to (see division list 1); the House was resumed.

14. Tourism: Working Time Directive—The Lord Cadman asked Her Majesty’s Government what istheir assessment of the eVect of the introduction of the Working Time Directive on the well-being of the tourist industry; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntoshof Haringey.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

15. Employment Relations Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); amendments were agreed to;the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that thebill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 70)

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, in Clause 15, page 8, line 20, at end to insert:

(“(4) The payment of higher wages or higher rates of pay or overtime or the payment of any signingon or other bonuses or the provision of other benefits having a monetary value to other workersemployed by the same employer shall not constitute a detriment to any worker not receiving the sameor similar payments or benefits within the meaning of subsection (1)(a) of this section so long as—

(a) there is no inhibition in the contract of employment of the worker receiving the same from being themember of any trade union, and

(b) the said payments of higher wages or rates of pay or overtime or bonuses or the provision of otherbenefits are in accordance with the terms of a contract of employment and reasonably relate toservices provided by the worker under that contract,

and paragraph 4 of Schedule 2 to this Act and sections 146 and 148(3) of the Trade Union and LabourRelations (Consolidation) Act 1992 shall be construed accordingly.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 98

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CONTENTS

Aldington, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Arran, E.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bathurst, E.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Burnham, L. [Teller]Byford, B.Cadman, L.

Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleraine, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dartmouth, E.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.EYngham, E.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ferrers, E.

Fookes, B.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Kimball, L.

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Kingsland, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mancroft, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blease, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.

Division No. 2

EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, in Schedule 7, page 86, line 11, at end to insert:

(“Provided that regulations made under this section shall only be made with the purpose of protectingemployees’ rights and not otherwise to interfere with the commercial relationship between such agenciesor businesses and employers.””);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Committee divided:

Contents … … … … … … 28

Not-Contents … … … … … 51

CONTENTS

Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Arran, E.Attlee, E.Berners, B.Blatch, B.Bridgeman, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Fookes, B.Glentoran, L.

Mowbray and Stourton, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Rawlings, B.Renton, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.

Evans of Watford, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwin of Clee, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Islwyn, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Kennet, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McCarthy, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Mar and Kellie, E.

Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Home, E.Kingsland, L.Luke, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.

St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Seccombe, B.Sharples, B.Shrewsbury, E.Stewartby, L.Strathclyde, L.Tebbit, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Torrington, V.Tugendhat, L.Westbury, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Meston, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Razzall, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Walpole, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Norton of Louth, L.Parkinson, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rowallan, L.Seccombe, B. [Teller]Tebbit, L.Torrington, V.Wynford, L.

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Acton, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.

Die Jovis 17) Junii 1999

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.

Evans of Parkside, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hoyle, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McCarthy, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]McNair, L.Maddock, B.

Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridge of Harwich, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.

Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rendell of Babergh, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thurso, V.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.

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Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Eames, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grafton, D.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.

Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lane, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.

Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Margesson, V.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.

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Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxford, Bp.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

Judicial Business

1. Barrett (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London Borough of Enfield (Respondents)—The Report from theAppellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Courtof Appeal of 25th March 1997 and the Order of Judge Brandt of 30th April 1996 be set asidesave as to legal aid taxation; that the Order of Judge Skerratt of 4th March 1996 dismissingthe application to strike out be restored; that the cause be remitted to the District Judge forfurther directions as to the service of a defence; that the respondents do pay to the appellanthis costs before Judge Brandt and District Judge Skerratt, in the Court of Appeal and beforethis House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in this Housebe taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

2. McKnight (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Appellant) v. Sheppard (Respondent)—TheReport from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that theOrder of the Court of Appeal of 7th May 1997 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs,the amount thereof costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed betweenthe parties.

Runciman of Doxford, V.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.

Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Van Den Brom (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Scott (Respondent)—The petition of Robert Van Den Brompraying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. Thepetitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

4. Regina v. Naini (Petitioner)—The petition of Jamshid Hashemi Naini, praying for an extension oftime within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with theCriminal Appeal Act 1968, was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant praying thatthe time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing mightbe extended to 1st July next (the 19th respondent not consenting thereto) was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.

The House was resumed.

6. Oath—Francis Vere Hampden Viscount Margesson took and subscribed the oath pursuant tostatute.

Papers

7. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Armed Forces—Supplement to the 28th Report of the Armed Forces’ Pay Review Body:Service Medical and Dental OYcers; (4313)

2. Communications—Report for 1998 of the Interception of CommunicationsCommissioner; (4364)

3. Security Services—Report for 1998 of the Commissioner for the Security Service Act1989; (4365)

4. Intelligence Services—Report for 1998 of the Commissioner for the Intelligence Services.(4361)

8. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Tollesbury and Mersea (Blackwater) Fishery Order 1999, laid under the Sea Fisheries(Shellfish) Act 1967; (1708)

2. Energy Information (Dishwashers) Regulations 1999, laid under the EuropeanCommunities Act 1972. (1676)

9. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. List of Exceptions to the Navy Regulations as to Pensions during the Financial Year1998–99 which have been sanctioned by HM Treasury under the Dispensing Order of19th December 1881, laid under that Order;

2. List of Exceptions to the Army Regulations as to Pensions during the Financial Year1998–99 which have been sanctioned by HM Treasury under the Dispensing Warrant of27th October 1884, laid under that Warrant;

3. List of Exceptions to the Air Force Regulations as to Pensions during the Financial Year1998–99 which have been sanctioned by HM Treasury under the Dispensing Order of14th January 1922, laid under that Order;

4. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Occupational Pensions Regulatory Authority, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Pensions Act 1995;

5. Financial Statements for 1998–99 of the Duchy of Cornwall, laid under the Duchies ofLancaster and Cornwall (Accounts) Act 1838.

Public Business

10. Immigration and Asylum Bill—A bill to make provision about immigration and asylum; to makeprovision about procedures in connection with marriage on superintendent registrar’scertificate; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time andordered to be printed. (HL Bill 71)

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11. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that it be aninstruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Welfare Reform and PensionsBill has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clauses 1 to 6 Schedule 7Schedule 1 Clauses 55 to 65Clauses 7 to 18 Schedule 8Schedule 2 Clauses 66 to 69Clause 19 Schedules 9 and 10Schedule 3 Clauses 70 to 76Clauses 20 and 21 Schedule 11Schedule 4 Clauses 77 to 79Clauses 22 to 31 Schedule 12Schedule 5 Clauses 80 to 82Clauses 32 to 46 Schedule 13Schedule 6 Clauses 83 to 85;Clauses 47 to 54

the motion was agreed to.

12. Freedom of Information—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that a Select Committeebe appointed to report on the draft Freedom of Information Bill published in the Commandpaper entitled Freedom of Information: consultation on draft legislation on 24th May 1999(Cm 4355);That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of theCommittee:

L. Archer of Sandwell (Chairman) L. FreemanL. Bach L. GoodhartE. Caithness L. LucasV. Colville of Culross L. McNallyB. Crawley L. Morris of Castle Morris;L. Dean of Harptree

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall if theCommittee think fit be printed and delivered out;That the Committee shall report by 29th July 1999; andThat the Committee do meet on Tuesday 22nd June at 10 am in Committee Room 4;the motion was agreed to.

13. Health Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered; certain Commons amendmentswere agreed to; a motion that the House do disagree with a Commons amendment waswithdrawn; the remaining amendments were agreed to; and the privilege amendment wasagreed to.

14. Local Government Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of theHouse) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); amendmentswere agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 72)

15. Scottish Parliament (Assistance for Registered Political Parties) Order 1999—

16. Scotland Act 1998 (Modifications of Schedules 4 and 5) Order 1999—

17. Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 1999—

18. Scotland Act 1998 (Border Rivers) Order 1999—

19. Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functions etc.) Order 1999—

20. Scotland Act 1998 (Functions Exercisable in or as Regards Scotland) Order 1999—

21. Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Functions) Order 1999—

22. Scotland Act 1998 (Consequential Modifications) (No. 2) Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Sewel that the eight draft Orders laid before the House on 26th Maybe approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

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DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Hamwee, in Clause 3, page 3, line 6, to leave out (“and”); which beingobjected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 29

Not-Contents … … … … … 90

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Carlisle, E.Dahrendorf, L.Dholakia, L.Glenarthur, L.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.McNair, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ailesbury, M.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.

Division No. 2

LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer, in Clause 3, page 3, line 6, at end to insert(“and sustainability”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 18

Not-Contents … … … … … 85

Maddock, B.Marlesford, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milverton, L.Norrie, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Redesdale, L. [Teller]Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.

Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kirkhill, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

Shrewsbury, E.Stewartby, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B. [Teller]Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Willoughby de Broke, L.

Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thornton, B.Uddin, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Addington, L.Carlisle, E.Dholakia, L.Glenarthur, L.Goodhart, L.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Attlee, E.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bethell, L.

Hooper, B.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.

[Teller]Redesdale, L. [Teller]

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kirkhill, L.Leathers, V.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.

Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brightman, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.

Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thurso, V.TordoV, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.

Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Thornton, B.Warner, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.

Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Craigavon, V.Crawley, B.Dartmouth, E.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Denbigh, E.

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Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Elles, B.Elton, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fitt, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Hereford, Bp.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lane, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ripon.

Papers

1. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Armed Forces—Convention between the United Kingdom, France, Germany and Italy on theEstablishment of the Organisation for Joint Armament Cooperation (Organisation Conjointede Cooperation en matiere d’Armement) (OCCAR), together with an explanatorymemorandum. (4367)

Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Marsh, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Nelson, E.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oxford, Bp.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Peston, L.Pike, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.

Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slynn of Hadley, L.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.TordoV, L.Trenchard, V.Tryon, L.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warnock, B.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

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2. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. M6 Motorway (Junction 38 Slip Roads) (Speed Limit) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Road TraYc Regulation Act 1984; (1646)2. Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) Order

1999, laid under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990. (1661)

3. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Accounts for 1998 of the General Medical Council, laid under the Medical Act 1983.

Public Business

4. Immigration and Asylum Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 71–EN)

5. Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon that thebill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

6. European Community Legislation (Impact) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Willoughby deBroke that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and thebill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

7. European Tax Harmonisation (Veto) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Waddington that thebill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

8. Comitology (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Hope of Craighead that this House takenote of the Report of the European Communities Committee on Delegation of Powers to theCommission: Reforming Comitology (3rd Report, HL Paper 23); after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past five o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

Die Lunae 21) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.

Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.

Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.

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Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.

Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutton, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.

Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levene of Port Soken, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.

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Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pender, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Clark (Respondent) v. Clark (Petitioner)—The petition of Julia Oriska Lambe Clark praying forleave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. QRS 1 ApS and others (all being companies incorporated under the laws of Denmark and incompulsory liquidation) (Petitioners) v. Frandsen (Respondent)—The petition of QRS 1 ApS,QRS 1A Aps, QRS 1B ApS, QRS 2 ApS and QRS 2A ApS praying for leave to appeal waspresented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

3. Cadogan Estates Limited (Respondents) v. McMahon (Petitioner)—The petition of RoderickJoseph McMahon praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court ex parte Government of the United States of America(Petitioners) and Ibrahim and another (Respondents)—The petition of the Government of theUnited States of America praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration ofJustice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 22nd July 1998).

5. Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—

Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.

Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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6. Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—(Consolidated Appeals)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendixand setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 12th July next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

7. Appeal Committee—The 41st Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Regina v. Leeds Crown Court ex parte Callaghan (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

8. Appeal Committee—The 42nd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Orders were made:Thai Trading (a firm) (Petitioners) v. Taylor and another (Respondents)—That leave to appealbe refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Regina v. Manning (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.Cantor Fitzgerald International (Petitioners) v. Callaghan and others (Respondents)—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Askin and others (Petitioners) v. ABSA Bank Limited (Respondents) and others—That leaveto appeal be refused.Hussain and another (Petitioners) v. Lancaster City Council (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordancewith direction 5.1(d), and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified bythe Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Lippiatt and another (Respondents) v. South Gloucestershire Council (as successor authorityto Avon County Council) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondentsbe at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the applicationis granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Gribben (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland (Respondent)(Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Papers

9. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Prisons—Report for 1998 of the Scottish Prisons Complaints Commission. (4376)

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Social Security Amendment (Educational Maintenance Allowance) Regulations 1999,

laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (1677)2. Statute made by St Hilda’s College, Oxford on 12 February, laid under the Universities

of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923. (—)

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Broadcasting Standards Commission, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1996;2. Army Act 1955 (Part I) (Regular Army) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Army Act 1955. (—)

Private Business

12. University College London Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

13. Imperial College Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

Public Business

14. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed for statements; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed.

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15. Police—The Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps theyare taking to ensure the continuance of a professional, impartial and accountable policeservice, with high morale; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Burlison.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

16. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment wasagreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 110A.

The House was adjourned at twenty-two minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

Die Martis 22) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldenham, L.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnard, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Bathurst, E.Bearsted, V.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.

Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.

Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Clwyd, L.Cobbold, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.

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De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.

Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hambro, L.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haskins, L.Haslam, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.

Jakobovits, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.King of Wartnaby, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.

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Parkinson, L.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prior, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Richardson of Calow, B.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.

Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Simpson of Dunkeld, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Townshend, M.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trotman, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.

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Verulam, E.Vinson, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waterford, M.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

1. Lord Trotman—Sir Alexander James Trotman, Knight, having been created Baron Trotman, ofOsmotherley in the County of North Yorkshire, for life by Letters Patent dated 2nd March1999 (see appendix), was introduced between the Lord Renwick of Clifton and the Lord Butlerof Brockwell, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding;and made and subscribed the solemn aYrmation pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2. Harries (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Barclays Bank plc (Respondents)—The petition of the appellant waspresented praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties (theagents for the respondents consenting thereto); and it was ordered as prayed.

3. Regina v. Martin (Petitioner)—It was ordered that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

4. Regina v. West Dorset District Council (Respondents) ex parte Searle (Petitioner)—The costsorder made pursuant to the 36th Report from the Appeal Committee was vacated; it wasordered that the petitioner do pay to the respondents and the interested party, C.G. Fry & SonLimited, the costs incurred by them in respect of her petition for leave to appeal to this House.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Interception of Communications—Consultation paper on the interception ofcommunications in the United Kingdom; (4368)

2. Health—Government response to the Report of the House of Commons HealthCommittee on future staYng requirements; (4379)

3. Broadcasting—Report and accounts for 1998–99 of the BBC. (—)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Report for 1998 of the Animal Procedures Committee, laid under the Animals (ScientificProcedures) Act 1986;

2. Treasury Minute, dated 22nd June 1999, directing the application of certain receipts asappropriations in aid of the votes specified in the revised estimates, summersupplementary estimates and new estimates for the year ending 31st March 2000, laidunder the Public Accounts and Charges Act 1891.

7. Statutory Instruments Reference Committee—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that hehad received the following Report from the Statutory Instruments Reference Committee:

That it has been notified in accordance with regulation 11(3) of the Statutory InstrumentsRegulations 1947, that the Secretary of State for Scotland has certified, under regulation 6 ofthe said Regulations, that the printing and sale of copies of the above-named instrument inaccordance with the requirements of section 2(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946 isunnecessary having regard to the fact that the Rules were revoked by the Scottish LocalElections (Amendment) (No. 2) Rules S.I. 1999/492 before they came into force; and that theCommittee is satisfied that the certificate is justified and has taken no further action in thematter;

the report was ordered to lie on the Table.

Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Woolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

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8. Statutory Instruments—The 22nd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instrument:Draft Contracting Out (Jury Summoning Functions) Order 1999;it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 74)

Public Business

9. House of Lords Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1) anamendment was negatived; an amendment was agreed to (see division list 2); furtherconsideration on report was adjourned.

10. Iran: human rights—The Lord Archer of Sandwell asked Her Majesty’s Government what is theirpolicy in relation to human rights in Iran; after debate, the question was answered by theBaroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

11. House of Lords Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); anamendment was agreed to; further consideration on report was adjourned after amendment45.

The House was adjourned at a quarter-before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank, in Clause 2, page 1, line 14, at end to insert:

(“( ) If Standing Orders provide for any people to be excepted from section 1 in consequence of anelection the method of election shall be determined by each party group and by the Cross-bench peers.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 54

Not-Contents … … … … … 335

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Avebury, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Clement-Jones, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dholakia, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Gage, V.Geraint, L.Goodhart, L. [Teller]Grey, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addison, V.

Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Jacobs, L.Kirkwood, L.Leathers, V.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Ludford, B.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Mountgarret, V.Newby, L. [Teller]Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Ogmore, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.

Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Aldenham, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.

Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Swansea, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Wigoder, L.

Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.

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Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Bearsted, V.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L. [Teller]Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Chorley, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clitheroe, L.Cobbold, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.

David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hawke, L.Hayman, B.

Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hooper, B.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Inchyra, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Jakobovits, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.May, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.

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Division No. 2

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Kingsland, after Clause 2, to insert the new Clause (AppointmentsCommission); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 231

Not-Contents … … … … … 189

CONTENTS

Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Aldenham, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Arlington, B.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bathurst, E.Bearsted, V.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

Puttnam, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Runciman of Doxford, V.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Simpson of Dunkeld, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.

Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.

Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Tenby, V.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Townshend, M.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Waterford, M.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Westbury, L.Whitty, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wolfson, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.Younger of Leckie, V.

Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Chadlington, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clitheroe, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.

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Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dacre of Glanton, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Freeman, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Goschen, V.Gray, L.Gretton, L.Hambro, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Harrowby, E.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Home, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Inchcape, E.JeVreys, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Alderdice, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinnoull, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knutsford, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.Macleod of Borve, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Manton, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.May, L.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Park of Monmouth, B.

Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnard, L.

Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Perry of Southwark, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prior, L.Radnor, E.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Savile, L.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.Sharples, B.Skelmersdale, L.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Ullswater, V.Verulam, E.Vinson, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Waterford, M.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bath, M.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.

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Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carew, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.

Division No. 3

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Gray, after Clause 2, to insert the new Clause (Membership of House of Lords:Scottish peers (No. 6)); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 40

Not-Contents … … … … … 123

Haskins, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kinloss, Ly.Kintore, E.Kirkwood, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Ludford, B.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Northbourne, L.Nunburnholme, L.Ogmore, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Paul, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.

Pitkeathley, B.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. John of Bletso, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Wedderburn of Charlton, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Dartington, L.

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CONTENTS

Annaly, L.Berners, B.Blackwell, L.Caithness, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Clinton, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Coleraine, L.Dundee, E.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Alderdice, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Chorley, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Craig of Radley, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gladwyn, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.

APPENDIX

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir Alexander

Gray, L. [Teller]Harmar-Nicholls, L.Jenkin of Roding, L.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Lauderdale, E.Mancroft, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Mountevans, L.Norrie, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Renton, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.

Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haslam, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Islwyn, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kinloss, Ly.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Merlyn-Rees, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.

Rowallan, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. [Teller]Selsdon, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Strange, B.Swansea, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Waddington, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.

Nicol, B.Northbourne, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Orme, L.Pitkeathley, B.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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James Trotman Knight to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Trotman ofOsmotherly in Our County of North YorkshireAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Trotman to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterthe second day of March in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

Die Mercurii 23) Junii 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.

Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Bristol, Bp.Brookeborough, V.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chichester, Bp.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.

Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunrossil, V.Durham, Bp.

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Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.

Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manchester, Bp.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.

Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mottistone, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Prior, L.

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Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Selsdon, L.Sempill, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Porter (Petitioner) v. Magill (Respondent) and one other action—The petition of Dame ShirleyPorter praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged21st June).

2. Ali (Respondent) v. Courtaulds Textiles Limited (Petitioners)—The petition of CourtauldsTextiles Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

3. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court and Allison (Respondent) ex parte Government of theUnited States of America (Appellants) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’sBench Division)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an AppellateCommittee.

4. Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the appellant prayingthat the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearingmight be extended to 20th July next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 22nd June).

Papers

5. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Finance—Treasury minute on the seventh to ninth Reports from the House of CommonsCommittee of Public Accounts. (4380)

Serota, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Didgemere, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.

Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweedsmuir, L.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winchester, Bp.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Revival of Parts IVA andIVB) Order 1999.

7. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Wireless Telegraphy (Licence Charges) Regulations 1999, laid under the Wireless

Telegraphy Act 1998; (1774)2. (i) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Supply and Sale of Equipment) (Penalties and

Licences) (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1775)(ii) Dual-Use and Related Goods (Export Control) (Amendment No.2) Regulations

1999— (1778)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

3. Education (Student Loans) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Education(Student Loans) Act 1990. (1784)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Financial Statements for 1998 for the Engineering Construction Industry

Training Board, laid under the Industrial Training Act 1982;2. Report for 1998 by the Secretary of State for Scotland on Further Education in Scotland,

laid under the Further and Higher Education (Scotland) Act 1992;3. (i) Sixth Report (selected cases October 1998–March 1999); and

(ii) Seventh Report (annual report 1998–99)from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration, laid under theParliamentary Commissioner Act 1967;

4. Report for 1998 of the Director General of Water Services, laid under the Water IndustryAct 1991.

Select Committee Reports

9. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:

19th Report, on the following bills:Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill;Football (OVences and Disorder) Bill;Employment Relations Bill—Proposed New Clause on Transfer of Undertakings;Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—Government amendments for Committee stage; (HLPaper 75)

20th Report, on the proposal for a draft Deregulation (Casinos) Order 1999. (HL Paper 76)

Public Business

10. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddingtonthat the Order of Commitment of 21st May be discharged and that the bill be committed toa Grand Committee; the motion was agreed to.

11. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedfor a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; theHouse was resumed.

12. H M Young OVender Institution and Remand Centre Feltham—The Lord Harris of Greenwichasked Her Majesty’s Government what is their response to the report of the Chief Inspectorof Prisons on H M Young OVender Institution and Remand Centre Feltham; after debate, thequestion was answered by the Lord Williams of Mostyn.

13. Access to Justice Bill [hl] —The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to with amendmentsand with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendments be printed.(HL Bill 73)

14. Tax Credits Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with certain amendments disagreed towith reasons for such disagreement and with the remaining amendments agreed to; the reasonswere ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 74)

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15. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedafter amendment 212ZA.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

three o’clock for public business.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brain, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.

Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carew, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.

Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Foley, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.

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Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grey, E.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kintore, E.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.

Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perth, E.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Judicial Business

1. Regina v. Oxfordshire County Council and others (Respondents) ex parte Sunningwell ParishCouncil (Appellants)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it wasordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 24th November 1997 be setaside; that it be declared that “Sunningwell Glebe is a village green within the meaning of theCommons Registration Act 1965”; that Oxfordshire County Council be directed to amend thecommons register accordingly; and that the second respondents do pay to the appellants theircosts before Mr Justice McCullough and Mr Justice Buxton, in the Court of Appeal andbefore this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.

2. Piglowska (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Piglowski (A.P.) (Respondent)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appealof 3rd November 1997 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation and that the Order of JudgePearlman of 25th November 1996 be restored; and that the question of costs be adjourneduntil further order.

3. Bruton (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London and Quadrant Housing Trust (Respondents)—The Reportfrom the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order ofthe Court of Appeal of 31st July 1997 and the Order of Judge James of 28th June 1996 be setaside, save as to legal aid taxation; that it be declared that “the Appellant was a tenant ofpremises known as 2 Oval House, Rushcroft Road, London SW2 1JU”; that the respondentsdo pay to the appellant his costs before Judge James, in the Court of Appeal and before thisHouse, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

4. In re D (Petitioner)—The petition of D praying for leave to appeal was presented without paymentof the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing OrderXIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Piglowska (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Piglowski (A.P.) (Respondent)—The respondent’s legal aidcertificate was lodged.

6. Appeal Committee—The 43rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Orders were made:MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the state of Delaware as Trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust (Respondents) v. Bishopsgate InvestmentTrust plc and others (Petitioners)—That the petition be referred for hearing.MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the state of Delaware as trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust) (Petitioners) v. Bishopsgate InvestmentTrust plc and others (Respondents)—That the petition be referred for hearing.Companhia Europeia de Transportes Aeros SA (a foreign corporation) (Petitioner) v. BritishAerospace Public Limited Company and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.RatcliV (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. G R McConnell and another (sued on their own behalf and onbehalf of all other Governors of Harper Adams College) (Respondents)—That leave to appeal

Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.

Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988;and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Sanctuary Housing Association (Petitioners) v. Baker (Respondent)—That leave to appeal berefused.Hamilton (Respondent) v. Al Fayed (Petitioner)—That the respondent be invited to lodgeobjections by 8th July next.In re D (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.

7. Appeal Committee—The 44th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made:Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—That the petition of the appellantpraying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause forhearing might be extended to 1st July next be allowed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Prisons—Report for 1st January 1998–31st March 1999 of the Prisons Ombudsman;

(4369)2. Cloning—Government response to the Report by the Human Genetics Advisory

Commission and the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority on Cloning Issuesin Reproduction, Science and Medicine; (4387)

3. Judicial Statistics—Judicial Statistics for 1998 for England and Wales. (4371)

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Merchant Shipping (Minimum Standards of Safety Communications) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999— (1704)(ii) Environmental Impact Assessment (Land Drainage Improvement Works)

Regulations 1999— (1783)(iii) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Freezing of Funds and Prohibition of Investment)

Regulations 1999— (1786)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

2. Food (Peanuts from Egypt) (Emergency Control) Order 1999, laid under the Food SafetyAct 1990. (1800)

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998–99 of the Legal Aid Board, laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988;2. Report and Financial Statement for 1998 of the S4C Authority, laid under the

Broadcasting Act 1990;3. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Audit Commission for Local Authorities and the National

Health Service in England and Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller andAuditor General, laid under the Audit Commission Act 1998;

4. (i) Accounts for 1998, together with the Report of the Comptroller and AuditorGeneral—

(ii) Report for 1998 by the Chairman—of the Crown Agents Holding and Realisation Board, laid under the Crown AgentsAct 1979;

5. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Criminal Cases Review Commission, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Criminal Appeal Act1995;

6. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Commission for Racial Equality for NorthernIreland, laid under the Race Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 1997;

7. Accounts for 1997–98 of the Greenwich Hospital and Travers Foundation, laid under theGreenwich Hospital Act 1865.

Private Business

11. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from the Unopposed BillCommittee with amendments.

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12. HFC Bank Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

Public Business

13. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 70(AYrmative Instruments) be dispensed with to enable the motion to approve the draftPrevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Revival of Parts IVA and IVB)Order 1999 to be taken today, notwithstanding that no report from the Joint Committee onStatutory Instruments on the draft Order has been laid before the House; the motion wasagreed to.

14. Committee for Privileges—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the ViscountCranborne be appointed a member of the Select Committee in the place of the ViscountWhitelaw; the motion was agreed to.

15. Water Industry Bill—The Queen’s and Prince of Wales’ Consent were signified; the bill was reada third time; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list); then the bill was passed.

16. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed.

17. Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Revival of Parts IVA and IVB) Order1999—Standing Order 70 having been dispensed with, it was moved by the Lord Williams ofMostyn that the draft Order laid before the House on 23rd June be approved; after debate,the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

18. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after clause 10 stood part.

The House was adjourned at nineteen minutes before eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

DIVISION

WATER BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, in Clause 6, page 5, line 12, at end to insert:(“(7A) In any case where—

(a) the premises had been let for residential purposes for a term of six months or more but not for a termexceeding 5 years, whether commencing before or after the commencement of this Act,

(b) the lessee for the time being had given a measured charges notice to the undertaker without theexpress written consent of the lessor for the time being,

(c) the premises have reverted to the original lessor, whether on the expiry of the term, or upon forfeitureor abandonment or disclaimer or surrender of the lease or by any other means, and

(d) the lessor to whom the premises have reverted intends to occupy them as his principal place ofresidence, the consumer, (here meaning the lessor for the time being) may within 12 months of thepremises reverting to him give a notice to the water undertaker revoking the measured chargesnotice.”);

which being objected to, the question was put and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 90

Not-Contents … … … … … 116

CONTENTS

Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Berners, B.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blyth, L.Bowness, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.

Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Croy, L.Carnock, L.Chadlington, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Crathorne, L.Crickhowell, L.

Cuckney, L.Davidson, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundee, E.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Foley, L.Freeman, L.Gainford, L.Glentoran, L.Halsbury, E.

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Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Iveagh, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Knollys, V.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Borrie, L.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Desai, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ezra, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Goodhart, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.

Marlesford, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Pender, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Quinton, L.Rathcavan, L.

Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Kennet, L.Lovell-Davis, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Methuen, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Nicol, B.

Rees, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Rotherwick, L.Sandys, L.Seccombe, B.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Strathcarron, L.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Trefgarne, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Windlesham, L.Young, B.

Palmer, L.Paul, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blyth, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bristol, Bp.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carter, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Cuckney, L.Davidson, V.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denton of Wakefield, B.Dholakia, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dudley, E.

Dundee, E.Eccles, V.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Falkland, V.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Healey, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jopling, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Levy, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Liverpool, E.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.

McNally, L.Mancroft, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Newall, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Parry, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peston, L.Phillimore, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Seccombe, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.

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Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Swinfen, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

Papers

1. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Government of Wales Act (Complaints of Maladministration) (Transitional and Saving

Provisions) Order 1999, laid under the Government of Wales Act 1998; (1791)2. Marketing of Ornamental Plant Propagating Material Regulations 1999, laid under the

European Communities Act 1972; (1801)3. Charles Keene College of Further Education, Leicester and Leicester South Fields

College (Dissolution) Order 1999, laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;(1802)

4. Agreed Syllabus for Religious Education (Prescribed Period) Order 1999, laid under theSchool Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1728)

5. Assured and Protected Tenancies (Lettings to Students) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,laid under the Housing Act 1988; (1803)

6. Local Education Authority (Payment of School Expenses) Regulations 1999, laid underthe Education Act 1996. (1727)

2. Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:Report for 1998 of the Construction Industry Training Board, laid under the IndustrialTraining Act 1982.

Public Business

3. Parliamentary Government Bill [hl]—The Queen’s consent was signified; it was moved by theViscount Cranborne that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion wasagreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

4. Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.

5. Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Earl Attlee that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

6. Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Meston that the bill be now reada second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

7. Protection of Children Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave ofthe House) withdrawn.

The House was adjourned at eighteen minutes past three o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.

Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Waverley, V.

Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.

Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.

Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.

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Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Braybrooke, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.

Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.

Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.

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Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

Judicial Business

1. MacNiven (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Appellant) v. Westmoreland Investments Limited(Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Iain Graham Brander MacNiven (Her Majesty’sInspector of Taxes) was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing OrderVI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 9th August next.

2. Midland Bank plc (Respondents) v. Wallace and another (A.P.) (Appellant)(England)—Theappeal of Anna Maria Wallace was presented and it was ordered that in accordance withStanding Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 9th Augustnext.

Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.

Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Steyn, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathclyde, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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3. Medforth (Respondent) v. Jones and another (Petitioners)—The petition of James Kenneth ReeseJones and Michael Hore praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

4. Karaganda Limited (Petitioners) v. Midland Bank plc and another (Respondents)—The petitionof Karaganda Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

5. Manchester Airport plc (Respondents) v. Dutton and others and another (Petitioner)—Thepetition of Christopher Maile praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment ofthe fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing OrderXIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 10th March).

6. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and others andanother (A.P.) (Respondents)—The petition of the 84th respondent praying for leave to lodgea separate case (the agents for the appellant consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

7. Regina v. Secretary of State for Transport (Appellant) ex parte Factortame Limited and others andanother (A.P.) (Respondents)—The petition of the 85th to 97th respondents praying for leaveto lodge a separate case (the agents for the appellant consenting thereto) was presented; andit was ordered as prayed.

8. Appeal Committee—The 45th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made—Clark (Respondent) v. Clark (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.

9. Appeal Committee—The 46th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made—Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Johnson (A.P.)(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.Regina v. Her Majesty’s Treasury and others (Respondents) ex parte Shepherd NeameLimited (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty toapply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, thatthe amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties.Poseidon SchiVahrt Gmbh (Petitioners) v. Nomadic Navigation Company Limited(Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 12th July next.Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC) (formerly known as Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC)Limited) (Respondents) v. Langton (Petitioner) and another—That the petition be referred forhearing.Manchester Airport plc (Respondents) v. Dutton and others and another (Petitioner)—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Papers

10. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Amendment) (Northern Ireland)Order 1999.

11. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Education (Maintained Special Schools) (Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under the School

Standards and Framework Act 1998; (1780)2. (i) Education (Individual Pupil Information) (Prescribed Persons) (Wales) Regulations

1999— (1781)(ii) Education (Transfer of Functions Concerning School Lunches) (Wales) (No. 2)

Order 1999— (1779)laid under the Education Act 1996;

3. Protection from Eviction (Excluded Licences) (The Shaftesbury Society) Order 1999, laidunder the Protection from Eviction Act 1977; (1758)

4. Planning and Compensation Act 1991 (Amendment of Schedule 18) (No. 2) Order 1999,laid under the Planning and Compensation Act 1991; (1765)

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5. Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid underthe Local Authorities (Goods and Services) Act 1970. (1754)

12. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998–99 of the Legal Services Ombudsman, laid under the Courts and Legal

Services Act 1990;2. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Scottish Tourist Board, together with the Report of the

Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;3. (i) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Hong Kong Locally Engaged Ratings’ Service

Pensions Increases) Order 1999— (—)(ii) Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Hong Kong Locally Engaged Ratings’ Service

Gratuities and Attributable Disablement and Death Awards) Order 1999— (—)laid under the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865;

4. Report for 1998 of the Parole Board for Scotland, laid under the Prisons (Scotland) Act1989;

5. Report for 1998–99 of the Equal Opportunities Commission for Northern Ireland, laidunder the Sex Discrimination (Northern Ireland) Order 1976.

Public Business

13. Academic and Academic-Related StaV Pay and Conditions Bill [hl]—The order of commitmentwas discharged.

14. Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.

15. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into aCommittee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leaveof the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.

16. Tax Credits Bill—The Commons reasons were considered and the Lords amendments were notinsisted on.

17. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed after clause 132 stood part.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past one o’clockin the morning of Tuesday 29th June till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.

Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.

Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.

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Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Camoys, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle, Bp.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.

Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, M.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grantley, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.

Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Healey, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Keith of Castleacre, L.Kennet, L.Kilmarnock, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.

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Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.London, Bp.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.

O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Salisbury, Bp.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.

Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

1. Viscount Portman—Christopher Edward Berkeley Viscount Portman sat first in Parliament afterthe death of his father, Edward Henry Berkeley Viscount Portman, having first taken andsubscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

2. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Thursday 1st andMonday 5th July.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Science and Technology—The Forward Look 1999: Government-funded science and

technology; (4363)2. International Labour Conference—Proposed action on three Conventions, three

Recommendations and a Protocol adopted at the 84th (Maritime) Session of theInternational Labour Conference (1996) by the United Kingdom. (4372)

4. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Aeroplane Noise (Amendment) Regulations 1999;2. Draft Ministerial and other Salaries Order 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Education (Mandatory Awards) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

Education Act 1962; (1824)2. Equality Commission for Northern Ireland (Supplementary Provisions) (Northern

Ireland) Order 1999, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1998; (1804)3. Register of County Court Judgments (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the

County Courts Act 1984; (1845)4. Cigarette Lighter Refill (Safety) Regulations 1999, laid under the Consumer Protection

Act 1987; (1844)5. Food (Animals and Animal Products from Belgium) (Emergency Control) (Amendment)

Order 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990; (1763)6. Animal FeedingstuVs from Belgium (Control) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid

under the European Communities Act 1972; (1764)7. Local Government Reorganisation (Wales) (Capital Finance) (Amendment) Order 1999,

laid under the Local Government (Wales) Act 1994; (1782)8. Education (School Performance and Unauthorised Absence Targets) (Wales)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1997; (1811)9. (i) Education (School Performance Information) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations

1999— (1470)(ii) Education (School Information) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1812)

laid under the Education Act 1996;10. (i) Road TraYc (NHS Charges) (Reviews and Appeals) (Scotland) Regulations 1999—

(1843)(ii) Road TraYc (NHS Charges) (Scotland) Order 1999— (1842)

laid under the Road TraYc (NHS Charges) Act 1999.6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House

and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Northern Ireland Trading and Other Accounts for 1997–98, together with the Reports of

the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland, laid under the NorthernIreland Act 1974;

2. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Scottish Tourist Board, laid under theDevelopment of Tourism Act 1969.

Select Committee Reports7. Statutory Instruments—The 23rd Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory

instruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:Draft Stansted Airport Aircraft Movement Limit (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1989 (Revival of PartsIVA and IVB) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 77)

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8. European Communities—The 12th Report from the Select Committee, Electricity fromRenewables, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed, together with the Minutesof Evidence. (HL Paper 78)

Public Business

9. Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

10. Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

11. Immigration and Asylum Bill—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that the bill be nowread a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to aCommittee of the Whole House.

12. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl]—The bill was reported from a Grand Committeewith amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 75)

13. Company and Business Names (Chamber of Commerce, Etc.) Bill—It was moved by the ViscountMontgomery of Alamein that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion wasagreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

14. Cathedrals Measure—It was moved by the Lord Bishop of London that this House do direct that,in accordance with the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919, the Measure bepresented to Her Majesty for the Royal Assent; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

15. Care of Places of Worship Measure—The Queen’s consent was signified; then it was moved by theLord Bishop of London that this House do direct that, in accordance with the Church ofEngland Assembly (Powers) Act 1919, the Measure be presented to Her Majesty for the RoyalAssent; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at one minute past nine o’clock till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

APPENDIX

PROCEEDINGS OF THE GRAND COMMITTEE (IN THE MOSES ROOM) ONTHE AREAS OF OUTSTANDING NATURAL BEAUTY BILL [HL]

The Committee met at half-past three o’clock.

The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Brougham and Vaux) was in the Chair.

Amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment was negatived;amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be reported with amendments.

The Committee was adjourned at twenty-two minutes before seven o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.

Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amherst of Hackney, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.

Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

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Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.Buchan, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.

Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dulverton, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.

Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Falmouth, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hampden, V.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hastings, L.Hawke, L.

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Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Iddesleigh, E.Inchcape, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.Kimberley, E.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.

Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lindsay, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.May, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.

Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Poole, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Radnor, E.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rochester, Bp.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.

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Roll of Ipsden, L.Rotherwick, L.Roxburghe, D.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sandberg, L.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Selborne, E.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

1. Bishop of Rochester—Michael James Lord Bishop of Rochester was introduced between the LordBishop of Southwark and the Lord Bishop of Gloucester; and took and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

2. Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Acts andMeasures:

Health Act c. 8

Water Industry Act c. 9

Tax Credits Act c. 10

Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Act c. 11

Road TraYc (Vehicle Testing) Act c. 12

University College London Act c. ii

Imperial College Act c. iii

HFC Bank Act c. iv

Cathedrals Measure No. 1

Care of Places of Worship Measure No. 2

Judicial Business

3. Whistler International Limited (Respondents) v. Kawasaki Kisen Kaisha Limited (Petitioners)—The petition of Kawasaki Kisen Kaisha Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

4. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (First Appeal)—

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Stewartby, L.Stockton, E.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.

TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Weir, V.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Woolton, E.Wynford, L.Young, B.

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5. White (Appellant) v. White (Respondent) (Second Appeal)—(Conjoined Appeals)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendixand setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 19th August next or to the thirdsitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondentsconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

6. Wadey (Respondent) v. Surrey County Council (Appellants)—The petition of the appellantspraying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause forhearing might be extended to 12th August next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuingmeeting of the House (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; andit was ordered as prayed.

7. Appeal Committee—The 47th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made—Dimond (Petitioner) v. Lovell (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodgeobjections by 14th July next.

Papers

8. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Lome Convention—Agreement Amending the Fourth ACP–EC Convention of Lome

with Final Act; (4383)2. Investment Protection—Agreement between the United Kingdom and the Lebanese

Republic for the Promotion and Protection of Investments, together with an explanatorymemorandum; (4384)

3. Education—Learning to Succeed: a new framework for post–16 learning: Governmentproposals; (4392)

4. Finance—European Community Finances—Statement on the 1999 EC Budget andmeasures to counter fraud and financial mismanagement. (4382)

9. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Procedural Rules) Order 1999;2. Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Guidelines) Order 1999;3. Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Code of Conduct) Order 1999.

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Civil Aviation (Route Charges for Navigation Services) (Third Amendment)

(Revocation) Regulations 1999, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982; (1859)2. (i) Seeds (Fees) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1999— (1865)

(ii) Fodder Plant Seeds (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1864)(iii) Vegetable Seeds (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1863)(iv) Oil and Fibre Plant Seeds (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1862)(v) Beet Seeds (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1861)(vi) Cereal Seeds (Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1860)

laid under the Plant Varieties and Seeds Act 1964;3. Education (National Curriculum) (Temporary Exceptions for Individual Pupils) (Wales)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Education Act 1996; (1815)4. (i) Education (Further Education in Schools) Regulations 1999— (1867)

(ii) Education (Exclusion from School) (Prescribed Periods) Regulations 1999— (1868)laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;

5. (i) FeedingstuVs (Zootechnical Products) Regulations 1999— (1871)(ii) FeedingstuVs (Establishments and Intermediaries) Regulations 1999— (1872)

laid under the European Communities Act 1972.

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report for 1998 of the Director General of Fair Trading, laid under the Fair Trading Act

1973;2. Statement by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport appointing Mr Alan

Britten as the Chairman of the English Tourist Board for a period of three years from 12thJuly 1999, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;

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3. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Local Government Commission for England,laid under the Local Government Act 1992;

4. Public Processions and Parades:(i) Guidelines—(ii) Procedural Rules—(iii) Code of Conduct—

laid under the Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998;5. Report for 1998–99 of the Ancient Monuments Board for Wales, laid under the Ancient

Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979;6. Report for 1998–99 of the Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary, laid under

the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 1988.

Select Committee Report

12. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:21st Report, on the Draft Freedom of Information Bill. (HL Paper 79)

Public Business

13. House of Lords Bill—The bill was further considered on report; an amendment was agreed to (seedivision list 1); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendmentswere disagreed to (see division lists 2 and 3); further consideration on report was adjourned.

14. Selection in education—The Lord Pilkington of Oxenford asked Her Majesty’s Governmentwhether they are prepared to accept that some selection in education has value; after debate,the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

15. House of Lords Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; amendments were disagreed to(see divisionlists 4 and 5).

The House was adjourned at a quarter-past midnightin the morning of Thursday 1st July till later the same day,

two o’clock in the afternoon for judicial business,three o’clock for public business.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Mancroft, after Clause 3, to insert the new Clause (Voting rights of life peers:extension of duration of Parliament); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and theHouse divided:

Contents … … … … … … 283

Not-Contents … … … … … 177

CONTENTS

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Amherst of Hackney, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Ashbourne, L.Astor, V.

Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.

Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Brookeborough, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.Burnham, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.

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Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carrington, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Cobbold, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Craigmyle, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dartmouth, E.Davidson, V.De L’Isle, V.Dean of Harptree, L.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denman, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Exmouth, V.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.

Geddes, L.Gibson, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Goschen, V.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harrowby, E.Hastings, L.Hawke, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Iddesleigh, E.Ironside, L.Iveagh, E.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Kelvedon, L.Kenyon, L.Killearn, L.Kimball, L.Kimberley, E.Kingsdown, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leigh, L.Listowel, E.Liverpool, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.

MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Mancroft, L. [Teller]Marlesford, L.May, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris of Kenwood, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perth, E.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Pym, L.Radnor, E.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Rees, L.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rotherwick, L.Roxburghe, D.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandys, L.Seccombe, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Carver, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwyn, L.Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.

Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.

Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hooson, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Ludford, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.

Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Westbury, L.Wilcox, B.Wise, L.Wolfson, L.Woolton, E.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Paul, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Serota, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.

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Division No. 2

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl Ferrers, after Clause 3, to insert the following new Clause (Disqualification ofPresiding OYcers of Scottish Parliament and Northern Ireland Assembly and presiding oYcer of NationalAssembly for Wales); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 125

Not-Contents … … … … … 165

CONTENTS

Abercorn, D.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Brookeborough, V.Bruntisfield, L.Burton, L.Buscombe, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Caldecote, V.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carrick, E.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton, L.Coleridge, L.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Davidson, V.Deedes, L.Denman, L.Donegall, M.Dudley, E.Ellenborough, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.

Warner, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.

Erne, E.Exmouth, V.Ferrers, E. [Teller]Fisher, L.Fookes, B.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Gray, L.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hankey, L.Hawke, L.Hayhoe, L.Hesketh, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hothfield, L.Iddesleigh, E.Inchcape, E.Jopling, L.Kenyon, L.Kimball, L.Kimberley, E.Kingsdown, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knutsford, V.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Long, V.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Mancroft, L.Monckton of Brenchley, V.Monk Bretton, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris of Kenwood, L.

Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.

Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.

Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Norrie, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Oxfuird, V.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Plumb, L.Rathcavan, L.Rees, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rotherwick, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sharples, B.Somerset, D.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Strathcarron, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Teviot, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Westbury, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Burlison, L.Burns, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L. [Teller]Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.

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Division No. 3

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl Ferrers, after Clause 3, to insert the following new Clause (Members of theSelected Chamber: style); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the Housedivided:

Contents … … … … … … 66

Not-Contents … … … … … 153

CONTENTS

Ailsa, M.Amherst of Hackney, L.Annaly, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Cadman, L.

Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kirkhill, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Ludford, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Ogmore, L.Onslow, E.Orme, L.Paul, L.

Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clinton, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Ferrers, E. [Teller]

Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.St. Davids, V.Sawyer, L.Serota, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warnock, B.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.

Fisher, L.Fookes, B.Gisborough, L.Goschen, V.Gray, L.Hankey, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Hawke, L.Hooper, B.

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Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cobbold, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Glanusk, L.

Monteagle of Brandon, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Moyne, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Noel-Buxton, L.O’Cathain, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.

Glasgow, E.Glenamara, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Judd, L.Kirkhill, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Ludford, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.

Rotherwick, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Shrewsbury, E.Stanley of Alderley, L.Strathcarron, L.Teviot, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Tryon, L.Vivian, L.Warnock, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nichol, B.Ogmore, L.Orme, L.Paul, L.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Serota, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tenby, V.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Weatherill, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.

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HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Earl of Perth, after Clause 4, to insert the following new Clause (Declaratory); whichbeing objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 34

Not-Contents … … … … … 83

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Annaly, L.Berners, B.Bledisloe, V.Boardman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnock, L.Chalfont, L.Coleraine, L.Craigmyle, L.Cross, V.Ferrers, E.Gray, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.

Division No. 5

HOUSE OF LORDS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Boardman, in Clause 5, page 2, line 4, to leave out from (“force”) to end ofline and insert (“upon the date fixed by a resolution of a Joint Committee of both Houses of Parliamentwhich is appointed after the Royal Commission on the reform and composition of the House of Lordshas reported.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 32

Not-Contents … … … … … 81

Iveagh, E.Kenyon, L.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Leigh, L.Liverpool, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Monson, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Napier and Ettrick, L.Norton of Louth, L.

Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hampton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L. [Teller]Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Judd, L.Kennet, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.

Perth, E. [Teller]Renton, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Shannon, E.Shaw of Northstead, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Strange, B. [Teller]Swansea, L.Trefgarne, L.Wise, L.

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

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Annaly, L.Attlee, E.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Blatch, B.Boardman, L. [Teller]Bridgeman, V.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnock, L.Chalfont, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Blease, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Burlison, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Chandos, V.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.

Die Jovis 1) Julii 1999

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.

Chesham, L.Coleraine, L.Courtown, E.Cross, V.EYngham, E.Ferrers, E.Gray, L.Kenyon, L.Kinnoull, E.Leigh, L.Monson, L.

Dubs, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hampton, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Judd, L.Kennet, L.Levy, L.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.

Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Norton of Louth, L.Rennell, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Stanley of Alderley, L.Trefgarne, L. [Teller]Wise, L.

Milner of Leeds, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brookman, L.

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Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.

Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundonald, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Hemphill, L.Henley, L.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.

Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutton, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kenyon, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.

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Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Mills, V.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Park of Monmouth, B.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

Judicial Business

1. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Appellants) v. British Telecommunications Plc(Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 18th March 1998 be set aside and that theOrder of Mr Justice Dyson of 5th February 1997 be restored; and that the respondents do payto the appellants their costs in the Court of Appeal and before this House, the amount of suchlast-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed betweenthe parties.

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.

Slynn of Hadley, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. Phelps (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Mayor etc of the London Borough of Hillingdon (Respondents)—Thepetition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 16th August next or to the third sittingday after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consentingthereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 40th Report:Union Carbide Corporation (a body corporate) (Respondents) v. B P Chemicals Limited(Petitioners)—The order of reference made on 16th June last was discharged; it was orderedthat leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 16th July next.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

4. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Works of Art—Minute dated 30th June 1999 concerning the indemnification of works of

art lent to the British Council for exhibitions to be held in a number of overseas locationsduring the second half of the financial year 1999–2000; (—)

2. Welfare—A New Contract for Welfare: Children’s Rights and Parents’ Responsibilities:Government proposals. (4349)

5. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft International Organisations (Immunities and Privileges) Miscellaneous ProvisionsOrder 1999.

6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Merchant Shipping (Counting and Registration of Persons on Board Passenger Ships)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; (1869)2. (i) Copyright (Application to Other Countries) Order 1999— (1751)

(ii) Performances (Reciprocal Protection) (Convention Countries) Order 1999— (1752)laid under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988;

3. Cross-Border Credit Transfers Regulations 1999, laid under the European CommunitiesAct 1972; (1876)

4. Occupational Pension Schemes (Investment, and Assignment, Forfeiture, Bankruptcyetc.) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the Pensions Act 1995. (1849)

Public Business

7. It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that, in the event that one or more statutoryinstruments relating to Northern Ireland are laid before the House this day, a motion ormotions to approve them may, notwithstanding the practice of the House, be moved this daywithout notice; and that Standing Order 70 (AYrmative Instruments) be dispensed with toenable the motion or motions to be taken, notwithstanding that no report from the JointCommittee on Statutory Instruments on the instruments has been laid before the House; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to.

8. House of Lords Bill—It was ordered that the bill be printed as amended on report. (HL Bill 76)

9. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after clause 185 stood part.

10. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to withamendments and with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commons amendmentsbe printed. (HL Bill 77)

The House was adjourned at nineteen minutes before one o’clockin the morning of Friday 2nd July to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barber of Tewkesbury, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bellwin, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brentford, V.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.

Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Canterbury, Abp.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.

Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Henniker, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.

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Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Tanworth, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lytton, E.McAlpine of West Green, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Clashfern, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.Macleod of Borve, B.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Malmesbury, E.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.

Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Nolan, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.

Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Didgemere, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Swansea, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Tanlaw, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Tugendhat, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Krasniqi (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Chief Adjudication OYcer and another (Respondents)—Thepetition of Samir Krasniqi praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee. The petitioners legal aid certificate was lodged.

2. Johnson (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Unisys Limited (Respondents)—The petition of Fenton BarryJohnson praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. Thepetitioners legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Yorkshire Bank plc (Respondents) v. Gardner (Petitioner)—The petition of Dennis AlbertGardner praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee havingbeen waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition wasreferred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 21st October 1998).

4. Roberts (Respondent) v. Roberts (Petitioner)—The petition of James Anthony Roberts prayingfor leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired waspresented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committeepursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

5. Johnson (A.P.) (Original Appellant and Cross-Respondent) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (OriginalRespondents and Cross-Petitioners)—The petition of Gore Wood & Co praying for leave tocross-appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

6. Hurst (Appellant) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing andreferred to an Appellate Committee.

7. W 1-6 (A.P.) (Respondents) v. Essex County Council and another (Appellants)—The petition ofthe appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 12th August next (the agents for the respondentsconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 1st July).

8. Scandecor Development AB (Appellants) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others (Respondents)and one other action—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging thestatement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 9thAugust next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agentsfor the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

9. Appeal Committee—The 48th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made—Regina v. Smith (Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 19thJuly next.Phonographic Performance Limited (Respondents) v. AEI Music Limited (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Morgans (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) (On Appeal from aDivisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—That the respondent be invited to lodgeobjections by 19th July next.Morris and others (Petitioners) v. Hateley and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal berefused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk ofthe Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Yorkshire Bank plc (Respondents) v. Gardner (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused;that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d)and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of theParliaments if not agreed between the parties.Roberts (Respondent) v. Roberts (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.

Williams of Elvel, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winston, L.Wise, LWoolton, E.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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10. Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of HerMajesty on 2nd July, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Social Security—Convention on Social Security between the United Kingdom and the

Republic of Korea, together with an explanatory memorandum; (4390)2. Transport—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Latvia on International Road

Transport; (4389)3. Treaty series—First supplementary list of ratifications, accessions, withdrawals, etc., for

1999. (4385)

11. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 2nd July, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. National Lottery Charities Board (Increase in Membership) (Revocation) Order 1999,

laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993; (1878)2. Local Authorities (Capital Finance and Approved Investments) (Amendment)

Regulations 1999, laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989. (1852)

12. AYrmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft INTELSAT (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 1999;2. Draft Northern Ireland Act Tribunal (Procedure) Rules 1999.

13. Deregulation—The following orders were laid before the House for approval by resolution undersection 1(4) of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the DelegatedPowers and Deregulation Committee:1. Draft Deregulation (Casinos) Order 1999;2. Draft Deregulation (Millennium Licensing) Order 1999.

14. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Grants to Members and

OYceholders and Scottish Parliamentary Pension Scheme) Amendment Order 1999, laidunder the Scotland Act 1998; (1891)

2. Patents and Trade Marks (World Trade Organisation) Regulations 1999, laid under theEuropean Communities Act 1972. (1899)

15. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998 of the Church Commissioners for England, laid under the

Church Commissioners Measure 1947;2. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Youth Justice Board for England and Wales,

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Crimeand Disorder Act 1998;

3. Account for 1998–99 of the Sports Council for Wales Lottery Distribution, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Lottery Act1998;

4. Review for 1998–99 of the West of England Development Agency, laid under theMiscellaneous Finance Provisions Act 1983.

Public Business

16. Protection of Children Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

17. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into aCommittee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed.

18. Local authority duties—The Lord Hunt of Tanworth asked Her Majesty’s Government whatprogress they have made on plans, referred to in paragraph 8.8 of the White Paper ModernLocal Government: In Touch with the People, to introduce a new duty on local authorities topromote the economic, social and environmental well-being of their area and accompanyingpowers; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

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19. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the question that a clause stand part was negatived; the House was resumed afterclause 236 stood part.

The House was adjourned at two minutes past eleven o’clocktill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.

Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brigstocke, B.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.

Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Croham, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Digby, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elliott of Morpeth, L.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exeter, Bp.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.

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Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantley, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Habgood, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of Peckham, L.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hives, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.

Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monro of Langholm, L.Monson, L.

Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Neill of Bladen, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Palumbo, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reading, M.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. In re Moringiello (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of ThomasMoringiello praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 6th March).

Papers

2. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Milk—Monopolies and Mergers Commission report on the supply in Great Britain of

raw cows’ milk; (4286)2. Northern Ireland—Government Response to the 11th Report of the House of Commons

Select Committee of Public Accounts, Controls to Prevent and Detect Fraud in FamilyPractitioner Service Payments; (4394)

3. Health—Saving Lives: Our Healthier Nation: Government proposals. (4386)

3. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Road TraYc (Parking Adjudicators) (England and Wales) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Road TraYc Act 1991; (1918)2. Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (Amendment) Regulations

1999, laid under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990; (1810)3. Greenhill College, Harrow and Weald College, Harrow (Dissolution) Order 1999, laid

under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992. (1919)

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Fair Employment Commission, laid under the

Fair Employment (Northern Ireland) Act 1976;2. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Education Transfer Council, together with the Report of the

Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Reform Act 1988;

Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stair, E.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuVolk and Berkshire, E.Swansea, L.Swaythling, L.Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.

Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakefield, Bp.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.

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3. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Financial Services Authority, laid under theFinancial Services Act 1996.

Select Committee Reports

5. Procedure of the House—The 3rd and 4th Reports from the Select Committee were made (seeappendix 1 and 2); it was ordered that the Reports be printed. (HL Papers 81 and 84)

6. Statutory Instruments—The 24th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft Ministerial and other Salaries Order 1999;Draft North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Amendment) (NorthernIreland) Order 1999;Draft Aeroplane Noise (Amendment) Regulations 1999;Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Code of Conduct) Order 1999;Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Procedural Rules) Order 1999;Draft Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Guidelines) Order 1999;Draft International Organisations (Immunities and Privileges) Miscellaneous ProvisionsOrder 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 80)

7. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made andordered to be printed:Enlarging the Jurisdiction of the Court of First Instance; (13th Report–HL Paper 82)Evidence by the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth OYce, on the CologneEuropean Council. (14th Report–HL Paper 83)

Public Business

8. Employment Relations Bill—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey, on behalf of theLord Simon of Highbury, that the amendments for the Report stage be marshalled andconsidered in the following order:

Clause 1 Schedule 5Schedule 1 Clauses 16 to 26Clause 2 Schedule 6Schedule 2 Clauses 27 and 28Clauses 3 and 4 Schedule 7Schedule 3 Clauses 29 to 36Clauses 5 to 9 Schedule 8Schedule 4 Clauses 37 to 39;Clauses 10 to 15

the motion was agreed to.

9. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed.

10. General Pinochet—The Lord Lamont of Lerwick asked Her Majesty’s Government what were thecircumstances and background of the arrest of General Pinochet; what was the role of thepolice, the Crown Prosecution Service, Ministers and the Diplomatic Service; and what hasbeen the eVect on Anglo-Chilean relations; after debate, the question was answered by theLord Williams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

11. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after clause 50 stood part.

The House was adjourned at two minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Armstrong of Ilminster, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackburn, Bp.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.

Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, Bp.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Constantine of Stanmore, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.

Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Derwent, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donaldson of Lymington, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.Eccles, V.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gibson, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.

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Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hampton, L.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Imbert, L.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Johnston of Rockport, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kelvedon, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.

Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.

Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Quinton, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Benn (Petitioner) v. Moore (Respondent)—The petition of Nigel Benn praying for leave to appealwas presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 43rd Report—Hamilton (Respondent) v. Al Fayed (Petitioner)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Papers

3. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—Treasury Minute on the tenth and the twelfth to fourteenth Reports from the

House of Commons Public Accounts Committee; (4381)2. Shipping—1997 Amendments to the Protocol of 1978 relating to the International

Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships, 1973, 25th September 1997;(4388)

3. Human Rights—Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil andPolitical Rights, aiming at the abolition of the death penalty, 15th December 1989;

(4375)4. Law—Agreement between the United Kingdom and the Netherlands concerning a

Scottish trial in the Netherlands, 18th September 1998. (4378)

4. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Northern Ireland Act 1974 (Interim Period Extension) Order 1999.

5. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Football Spectators (Seating) Order 1999, laid under the Football Spectators Act 1989;

(1926)2. Fixed Penalty OVences Order 1999, laid under the Road TraYc Act 1988; (1851)3. Fire Precautions (Workplace) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Fire

Precautions Act 1971; (1877)4. Social Fund Winter Fuel Payment Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the Social

Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (1880)5. Safety of Sports Grounds (Designation) Order 1999, laid under the Safety of Sports

Grounds Act 1975; (1930)

Swinfen, L.Swinton, E.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Gryfe, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.

Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.

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(1925)

6. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Castle Vale Housing Action Trust, laid under

the Housing Act 1988;2. Report and Accounts for 1997–98 of the Northern Ireland Court Service on legal aid, laid

under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981;3. Report for 1998–99 of the Police Complaints Authority, laid under the Police and

Criminal Evidence Act 1984;4. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Police Complaints Authority, together with the Report of

the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act1984;

5. Treasury Minute dated 7th July directing the application of certain receipts asappropriations in aid of the Vote specified in the late revised estimates for 1999–2000, laidunder the Public Accounts and Charges Act 1891;

6. Accounts for the year ended 5th April 1999 of the Pensions Compensation Board, withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Pensions Act 1995.

Select Committee Report

7. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:22nd Report, on the Immigration and Asylum Bill. (HL Paper 85)

Public Business

8. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumedfor a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendmentswere agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; theHouse was resumed.

9. Finance Bill—A bill to grant certain duties, to alter other duties, and to amend the law relating tothe National Debt and the Public Revenue, and to make further provision in connection withFinance was brought from the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that thebill is a money bill, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 78)

10. Space policy—The Lord Renwick asked Her Majesty’s Government what decisions were taken atthe Council of Ministers of the European Space Agency on 11th and 12th May; and what werethe implications of these decisions for United Kingdom space policy; after debate, thequestion was answered by the Lord Sainsbury of Turville.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

11. Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 369.

The House was adjourned at ten minutes past midnightin the morning of Thursday 8th July till later the same day,

two o’clock in the afternoon for judicial business,three o’clock for public business.

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The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Burleigh, L.Barnett, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brain, L.Bramall, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.

Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnock, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cobbold, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.

Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eccles, V.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Erne, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exeter, Bp.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Fanshawe of Richmond, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.GoV of Chieveley, L.Goodhart, L.Gormanston, V.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.

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Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Inglewood, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.

Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Levy, L.Listowel, E.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McConnell, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montrose, D.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.

Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selsdon, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Skidelsky, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Steyn, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Murray and another (A.P.) (Appellants) v. Foyle Meats Limited (Respondents) (NorthernIreland)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered andadjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal in Northern Ireland of 24th October 1997 beaYrmed and the appeal dismissed; that the costs of the respondents in this House be paid outof the Legal Aid Fund, in accordance with Article 16 of the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance(Northern Ireland) Order 1981, such order to be suspended for four weeks to allow the LegalAid Board to object if they wish; and that the costs of the appellants be taxed in accordancewith the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981.

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Simms (A.P.)(Appellant)—

3. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte O’Brien (A.P.)(Appellant)—(Consolidated Appeals)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that theOrder of theCourt ofAppeal of 4thDecember 1997 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation andthat theOrdersofMrJusticeLathamof19thDecember1996be restored; that it bedeclared that“the Secretary of State for the Home Department’s current policy, that prisoners have no rightto have oral interviews with journalists, is unlawful; and that the Governors’ administrativedecisions pursuant to that policy are also unlawful”; that the Cause be remitted back to theQueen’s Bench Division to do therein as shall be just and consistent with this Judgment and theOpinions expressed in this House; that the respondent dopay to the appellants their costs in theCourt of Appeal and before this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certifiedby the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of theappellants in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

4. Regina v. Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (Appellants) ex parte Lawrie PlantationServices Limited (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; itwas ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 14th January 1998 and theOrderofMrRobinPurchas,QC,of 28thFebruary1997be setaside; that it bedeclared that“theissue of the breach of condition notices in respect of flats 8 and 9, Crown Lodge, 12 ElystanStreet, London SW3 under section 187A of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 on 12thand 16th July 1996 was valid”; and that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costsbefore Mr Purchas, in the Court of Appeal and before this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certifiedby theClerkof theParliaments if not agreed between theparties.

5. Brown (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Rentokil Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—The order ofrecommitment of 5th May last was discharged. The Cause was further considered, pursuant tothe Order of the House of 28th November 1996 whereby certain questions were referred to theCourt of Justice of the European Communities; the Judgment of that Court having been givenon 30th June 1998, it was ordered and adjudged that the appeal be allowed and that theInterlocutor of the Inner House of the Court of Session of 18th January 1995 be recalled; thatthe Order of the Employment Appeal Tribunal of 23rd March 1992 and the decision of theIndustrial Tribunal of 25th July 1991 be set aside; that the Cause be remitted back to the Courtof Session to proceed as accords in accordance with the Judgment of the Court of Justice of theEuropeanCommunities; that the respondents dopay to the appellant her expenses in theCourtof Session, below, before the Court of Justice of the European Communities and before thisHouse, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties.

Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.

Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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6. Regina v.Bartle and theCommissionerofPolice for theMetropolis andothers (Appellants) ex partePinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—

7. Regina v. Evans and another and the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis and others(Appellants) ex parte Pinochet (Respondent) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of theQueen’s Bench Division)—The Cause was further considered; it was ordered that there be no order as to costs in theDivisional Court; that, having considered the written submissions of the parties and theexceptional circumstances of the proceedings, the costs incurred by Senator Pinochet in respectof theOrdersof thisHouseof 25thNovember lastand17thDecember lastbepaidoutofCentralFunds inaccordancewith section16of theProsecutionofOVencesAct 1985, the costs in respectof the lastmentionedOrder tobepaid onan indemnity basis, the amounts thereof tobe certifiedby the Clerk of the Parliaments; and that there be no order as to costs in respect of the Order ofthis House of 24th March last.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

Papers

8. CommandPapers—The followingpaperswere presented to theHouseby commandofHerMajestyand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Finance—GovernmentResponse to theHouseofCommonsEnvironment,Transport and

Regional AVairs Committee Report on Local Government Finance; (4402)2. Post OYce—Post OYce Reform: A World Class Service for the 21st Century: Government

proposals. (4340)

9. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Draft Films (Modification of the Definition of “British Film”) Order 1999;2. Draft Financial Services Act 1986 (Restriction of Exemptions) Order 1999.

10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe table:1. Town and Country Planning (Trees) Regulations 1999, laid under the Town and Country

Planning Act 1990; (1892)2. (i) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Anglia Railways Class 170/2 Vehicles) Exemption Order

1999— (1931)(ii) Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Central Trains Class 170/5) Vehicles) Exemption Order

1999— (1932)laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995;

3. MerchantShipping (Fees) (AmendmentNo. 2)Regulations1999, laidunder theMerchantShipping Act 1995; (1923)

4. Postal Privilege (Suspension) Order 1999, laid under the British Telecommunications Act1981; (1933)

5. (i) Education (Education Standards Etc. Grants) (England) Regulations 1999(Amendment) Regulations 1999— (1955)

(ii) Education (Parent Governor Representatives) Regulations 1999— (1949)(iii) Education (Parent Governor Representatives) (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1900)

laid under the Education Act 1996;6. (i) National Health Service (Functions of Health Authorities and Administration

Arrangements) Amendment (Wales) Regulations 1999— (1902)(ii) Health Authorities (Membership and Procedure) Amendment (Wales) Regulations

1999— (1901)laid under the National Health Service Act 1977.

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the table:1. Report for1998–99of thePostOYceUsersCouncil forScotland, laidunder thePostOYce

Act 1969;2. Lottery Distribution Account for 1998–99 of the National Heritage Memorial Fund

HeritageLotteryFund, togetherwith theReport of theComptroller andAuditorGeneral,laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;

3. Accounts for 1998–99 of the National Heritage Memorial Fund, together with the Reportof the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Heritage Act 1980;

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4. Report for 1996–97of theMinistryofAgriculture,FisheriesandFoodonSmallholdings inEngland, laid under the Agriculture Act 1970.

5. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency,together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theGovernment Trading Funds Act 1973.

Private Business

12. KentCountyCouncil Bill [hl]—Thepetition against the bill fromAshfordCattleMarketCompanyLimited (No.1) was withdrawn; the order made on 18th February last was discharged and thebill was committed to an Unopposed Bill Committee.

Public Business

13. Immigration and Asylum Bill—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that it be aninstruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Immigration and Asylum Billhas been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:

Clauses 1 to 34 Schedule 7Schedule 1 Clauses 78 to 85Clauses 35 to 46 Schedule 8Schedule 2 Clauses 86 to 93Clause 47 Schedule 9Schedule 3 Clauses 94 to 144Clause 48 Schedule 10Schedule 4 Clause 145Clauses 49 to 73 Schedule 11Schedule 5 Clause 146Clauses 74 and 75 Schedule 12Schedule 6 Clauses 147 to 158Clauses 76 and 77 Schedules 13 to 15;

the motion was agreed to.

14. Academic andAcademic-RelatedStaV PayandConditionsBill [hl]—Thebillwas reada third time;a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.

15. Employment Relations Bill—The report was received; amendments were agreed to; an amendmentwas disagreed to (see division list); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House)withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 79)

16. Ministerial and other Salaries Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of theBaroness Jay of Paddington, that the draft Order laid before the House on 29th June beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before ten o’clocktill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

DIVISION

EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, in Schedule 1, page 18, line 42, to leave out (“21”) andinsert (“50”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 126

Not-Contents … … … … … 134

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.Addison, V.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Bathurst, E.Belhaven and Stenton, L.

Bell, L.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.

Cadman, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carnock, L.Cavendish of Furness, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleraine, L.Coleridge, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.

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Cox, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Davidson, V.Denham, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Fookes, B.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Glentoran, L.Gormanston, V.Gray, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harmsworth, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Addington, L.Alli, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brookman, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Currie of Marylebone, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.

Keyes, L.Kintore, E.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lauderdale, E.Long, V.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Lyell, L.McConnell, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milverton, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monson, L.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Norfolk, D.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.

Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Goodhart, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Laming, L.Levy, L.Longford, E.McCarthy, L.Macdonald of Tradeston, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]

Park of Monmouth, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Rees, L.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.St. Davids, V.Seccombe, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Skelmersdale, L.StraVord, E.Strathcarron, L.Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.Strathmore and Kinghorne, E.Swansea, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Weatherill, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mar and Kellie, E.Merlyn-Rees, L.Methuen, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Nicol, B.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Astor of Hever, L.Attlee, E.Avebury, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.

Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.

Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundee, E.Dunleath, L.EYngham, E.Elles, B.Elton, L.Ely, Bp.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hereford, Bp.Holderness, L.Hooper, B.Hughes of Woodside, L.Huntingdon, E.Imbert, L.

Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kintore, E.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Merlyn-Rees, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Paul, L.Pitkeathley, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Ely.

Judicial Business

1. Three Rivers District Council and others (Appellants) v. Governor and Company of the Bank ofEngland (Respondents) (Second Appeal)—The time limit for lodging the statement andappendix having expired on 7th July, and neither the statement nor appendix having beenlodged by that date, the appeal was dismissed pursuant to Standing Order VI.

2. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court and Allison (A.P.) (Respondent) ex parte Government ofthe United States of America (Appellants) (On Appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’sBench Division)—The respondent’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 48th Report:Morgans (Petitioner) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) (On Appeal from aDivisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—That leave to appeal be given, and that thepetition of appeal be lodged by 23rd July next.

4. Appeal Committee—The 49th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrder was made—Van Den Brom (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Scott (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused andthat the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

5. Appeal Committee—The 50th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made—Bettison and others (Respondents) v. Langton and others (Petitioners)—That the respondentsbe invited to lodge objections by 23rd July next.Governor and Company of the Bank of Scotland (Respondents) v. Bennett and another(Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 23rdJuly next.Raja (Petitioner) v. Rubin (Supervisor of the voluntary arrangement) and another(Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the first respondent be at liberty to applyfor his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that theamount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Michaels and another (Petitioners) v. Harley House (Marylebone) Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs inaccordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Deepak Fertilisers and Petrochemicals Limited (Petitioners) v. ICI Chemicals & PolymersLimited and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents beat liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application isgranted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties.Regina v. District Court Martial at Bulford and another (Respondents) ex parte Bowyer(A.P.) (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 23rd July next.

Seccombe, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stewartby, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.

Tomlinson, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

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6. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 1999, laid under

the Road TraYc Act 1988; (1959)2. Consumer Credit (Exempt Agreements) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the

Consumer Credit Act 1974; (1956)3. (i) Social Security Amendment (Students) Regulations 1999— (1935)

(ii) Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 4) Regulations 1999— (1965)laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;

4. Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 4) (Northern Ireland) Regulations1999, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act1992. (1966)

Public Business

7. Road TraYc (Use of Mobile Telephones) Bill [hl]—It was moved by the Lord Davies of Oldhamthat the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

8. Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 80)

9. Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]—The House resolved itself into a Committee uponthe bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed and the bill was reported without amendment; the report was received.

10. Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty Bill [hl]—The report was received; an amendment wasmoved and, on question, tellers for the not-contents not having been appointed, theamendment was agreed to pursuant to Standing Order 51; an amendment was agreed to;amendment 5 was moved, objected to, and on question fewer than 30 Lords having voted (seedivision list), the question was declared not decided and further consideration on report stoodadjourned, pursuant to Standing Order 55.

The House was adjourned at three o’clockto Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

AREAS OF OUTSTANDING NATURAL BEAUTY [HL]It was moved by the Lord Chorley, in Clause 3, page 2, line 24, at end insert:

(“(1A) Subject to subsection (2) and in pursuance of its duty under subsection (1), every localplanning authority whose areas consists of or includes the whole or part of an area of outstandingnatural beauty shall also seek to foster the economic and social well-being of communities within thearea of outstanding natural beauty, but without incurring significant expenditure in doing so.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 15

Not-Contents … … … … … 2

CONTENTS

Beaumont of Whitley, L.Carlisle, E.Chorley, L.Elton, L.Hereford, Bp.

NOT-CONTENTS

Kimball, L. [Teller] Kintore, E. [Teller]

Lyell, L. [Teller]Montrose, D.Nathan, L.Rees, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.

Rotherwick, L. [Teller]Shaughnessy, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Weatherill, L.Williams of Elvel, L.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Alexander of Weedon, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Banbury of Southam, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Beaverbrook, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bradford, Bp.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.

Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Eatwell, L.

Eccles, V.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fisher, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.GriYths of Fforestfach, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.

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Holderness, L.Hollenden, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.

McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Parry, L.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.

Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

1. Lord Hollenden—Ian Hampden Hope Lord Hollenden sat first in Parliament after the death of hisfather, Gordon Hope Lord Hollenden, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuantto statute.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Robery (Petitioner)—The petition of Raymond David Frank Robery praying for leaveto appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to anAppeal Committee.

3. Goodes (A.P.) (Respondent) v. East Sussex County Council (Appellants)—The petition of theappellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 25th August next (the agents for the respondentconsenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

4. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Police—Report for 1998–99 of the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis. (—)

5. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Courses for Drink-Drive OVenders (Experimental Period) (Termination ofRestrictions) Order 1999.

6. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Income Support (General) and Jobseeker’s Allowance Amendment Regulations 1999, laidunder the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.

7. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Museums and Galleries Commission, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and GalleriesAct 1992;

2. Account for 1998–99 of the Data Protection Registrar, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Data Protection Act 1984;

3. Accounts for 1998–99 of the British Tourist Authority, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;

4. Report for 1998–99 of the Occupational Pensions Regulatory Authority (OPRA), laidunder the Pensions Act 1995.

8. Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the Housethat he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946,notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid beforeParliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lieon the Table:Civil Aviation (Route Charges for Navigation Services) (Third Amendment) (Revocation)Regulations 1999. (1859)

Select Committee Reports

9. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following reports from the Select Committee were madeand ordered to be printed:23rd Report, on the Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill (HL Paper 86);24th Report, on the following draft Deregulation Orders:

Draft Deregulation (Millennium Licensing) Order 1999;Draft Deregulation (Casinos) Order 1999. (HL Paper 87)

Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.

Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Winston, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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10. Immigration and Asylum Bill—The petition of Mrs Ann Dean of Brighton on behalf of thoseseeking humanity and justice for refugees, praying that this House will amend theImmigration and Asylum Bill as suggested by roughly one hundred organisations and a fewindividuals who gave evidence to the House of Commons Standing Committee on the Bill, andespecially to note the suggestions of Mr N J P Bond, who met genuine torture victims whowere deported, so that the procedures are truly fairer and faster, but only harsher to fraudulentclaimants and to those who neglect their duty to act justly, eYciently and with humanity toall refugees, so that United Kingdom citizens like Mr Bond, as well as refugees, do not suVerstress from this injustice, was presented by the Earl of Sandwich, and ordered to lie on theTable.

11. Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreedto with amendments and with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commonsamendments be printed. (HL Bill 81)

12. Immigration and Asylum Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed.

13. Overseas territories—The Viscount Montgomery of Alamein asked Her Majesty’s Governmentwhat progress has been made in implementing the White Paper proposals for the overseasterritories (Cm 4264); after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons ofVernham Dean.

14. Immigration and Asylum Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed after clause 30 stood part.

The House was adjourned at two minutes past one o’clockin the morning of Tuesday 13th July till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.

Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.

Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carnock, L.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.

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Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clwyd, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Congleton, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Currie of Marylebone, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Dearing, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.

Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Gretton, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Hesketh, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchcape, E.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.

Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas of Chilworth, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mar, C.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Middleton, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.

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Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow of Woking, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Rawlinson of Ewell, L.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Renton, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

1. Baroness Stern—Miss Vivien Helen Stern, CBE, having been created Baroness Stern, of Vauxhallin the London Borough of Lambeth, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 13thJuly 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Dubs and the Baroness Kennedyof The Shaws, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding;and made and subscribed the solemn aYrmation pursuant to statute.

2. Lord Stevenson of Coddenham—Sir Henry Dennistoun Stevenson, Knight, CBE, having beencreated Baron Stevenson of Coddenham, of Coddenham in the County of SuVolk, for life byLetters Patent dated in the forenoon of 13th July 1999 (see appendix 2), was introducedbetween the Lord Dormand of Easington and the Lord Walker of Worcester, the GentlemanUsher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oathpursuant to statute.

Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stern, B.Stevenson of Coddenham, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.

Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Weidenfeld, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winchester, Bp.Wise, L.Wrenbury, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Judicial Business

3. Magill (Appellant) v. Porter (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of John Magill was presentedand it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendixthereto be lodged on or before 24th August next.

4. Magill (Appellant) v. Weeks (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of John Magill was presentedand it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendixthereto be lodged on or before 24th August next.

5. Berezovsky (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—

6. Glouchkov (Respondent) v. Michaels and others (Appellants)—(Consolidated Appeals)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendixand setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 26th July next (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 12thJuly).

7. UCB Home Loans Corporation Limited (Respondents) v. Moore and another (A.P.)(Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement andappendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next or tothe third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for therespondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

8. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Youth Unemployment—Report by the Social Exclusion Unit on Bridging the Gap: newopportunities for 16–18 year olds not in education, employment or training. (4405)

9. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Merchant Shipping (Liability of Shipowners and Others) (Rate of Interest) Order 1999, laidunder the Merchant Shipping Act 1995. (1922)

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of Highlands and Islands Airports Limited, laid under

the Civil Aviation Act 1982;2. New Opportunities Fund Strategic Plan, laid under the National Lottery Act 1998;3. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Police Information Technology Organisation,

together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the PoliceAct 1997;

4. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Heritage Act1983;

5. Report and Accounts of the Meteorological OYce, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973;

6. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Further and Higher Education Funding Councils for Wales,together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Furtherand Higher Education Act 1992;

7. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Qualifications, Curriculum and Assessment Authority forWales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theEducation Act 1997;

8. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Economic and Social Research Council, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Science and TechnologyAct 1965;

9. Accounts for 1998–99 of the English Tourist Board, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;

10. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Defence Bills Agency, together with the Reportof the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Exchequer and AuditDepartments Act 1921;

11. Reports and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Horserace Betting Levy Board and theHorserace Totalisator Board, laid under the Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act 1963;

12. Report for 1998–99 of the Data Protection Registrar, laid under the Data Protection Act1984;

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13. Review, Report and Financial Statements of the Broadcasting Standards Commission,laid under the Broadcasting Act 1996.

Select Committee Report

11. Statutory Instruments—The 25th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:

Draft INTELSAT (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 1999;Draft Northern Ireland Act Tribunal (Procedure) Rules 1999;Draft Financial Services Act 1986 (Restriction of Exemptions) Order 1999;Draft Films (Modification of the Definition of “British Film”) Order 1999;Draft Northern Ireland Act 1974 (Interim Period Extension) Order 1999;

it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 88)

Private Business

12. Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent tothe Commons.

Public Business

13. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 44(No two stages of a bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with to enable more than one stageof any Northern Ireland bill brought from the Commons before the House adjourns for thesummer recess to be taken on one day; and to enable all stages of the Consolidated Fund(Appropriation) Bill to be taken on Thursday next; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

14. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed.

15. Prisons—The Earl of Longford asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their response to thelatest annual report from Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Prisons; and what developmentsthere have been since the report was published; after debate, the question was answered by theLord Williams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

16. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House wasresumed after clause 59 stood part.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes before one o’clockin the morning of Wednesday 14th July till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Miss Vivien HelenStern Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignitytitle and honour of Baroness Stern of Vauxhall in Our London Borough of LambethAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baroness Stern to have and to hold unto her for her lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the afternoon of the thirteenth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

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ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Sir HenryDennistoun Stevenson Knight: Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to thestate degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Stevenson of Coddenham of Coddenham in OurCounty of SuVolkAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Stevenson of Coddenham to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the forenoon of the thirteenth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Arran, E.Ashbourne, L.Ashburton, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Balfour of Inchrye, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Bathurst, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.

Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Bethell, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Bridges, L.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterfield, L.

Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Callaghan of CardiV, L.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chandos, V.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chilver, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.CliVord of Chudleigh, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.

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Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Cumberlege, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Deedes, L.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dinevor, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dundee, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Erroll of Hale, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Foley, L.Fookes, B.

Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenamara, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hampden, V.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardinge of Penshurst, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hattersley, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayman, B.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.

Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Inchyra, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jacobs, L.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Layton, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lloyd of Berwick, L.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McConnell, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.

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Mackintosh of Halifax, V.MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Manchester, D.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Merrivale, L.Mersey, V.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Monteagle of Brandon, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Nelson of StaVord, L.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Norrie, L.Northbourne, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Neill of Bengarve, B.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Onslow of Woking, L.

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Patel, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Portman, V.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rees-Mogg, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Roll of Ipsden, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Warsaw, B.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Sanderson of Bowden, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Sheppard of Liverpool, L.

Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stanley of Alderley, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.SuYeld, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Templeman, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Townshend, M.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

Judicial Business

1. London Borough of Bromley (Petitioners) v. Special Education Needs Tribunal (Respondents)and others—The petition of the London Borough of Bromley praying for leave to appealnotwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented andreferred to an Appeal Committee.

2. Lafarge Redland Aggregates Limited (formerly Redland Aggregates Limited) (Respondents) v.Shephard Hill Civil Engineering Limited (Appellants)—The appeal was set down for hearingand referred to an Appellate Committee.

3. Barclays Bank plc (Respondents) v. Harris and another (A.P.) (Appellant)—The petition of theappellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next or to the third sitting day after thenext ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

4. Appeal Committee—The 51st Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Orders were made—White (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. White and the Motor Insurers Bureau (Respondents)—That leaveto appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 28th July next.Government of the United States of America (Respondents) v. Montgomery and another(Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be given on terms that the appeal be confined to thegrounds identified in paragraph 14A and B of the petition for leave to appeal, and that thepetition of appeal be lodged by 28th July next.Eastbourne Town Radio Cars Association (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs andExcise (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodgedby 28th July next.

Papers

5. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of HerMajesty and ordered to lie on the Table:1. Pollution—Agreement for Co–operation in Dealing with Pollution of the North Sea by

Oil and Other Harmful Substances; (4397)2. Social Security—Report for 1998–99 by the Secretary of State for Social Security on the

Social Fund. (4351)

6. AYrmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval byresolution and ordered to lie on the Table:Draft Jobseeker’s Allowance Amendment (New Deal) Regulations 1999.

7. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Patent OYce (Address) (Revocation) Rules 1999, laid under the Registered Designs Act 1949.

(1993)

8. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of:

(i) the Information Technology Services Agency—(ii) the Benefits Agency—(iii) the Ordnance Survey of Northern Ireland—(iv) the War Pensions Agency—(v) the Contributions Agency—(vi) the Child Support Agency—(vii) the Valuation OYce—

together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theExchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;

2. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Highlands and Islands Enterprise Network, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Enterprise and NewTowns (Scotland) Act 1990;

Windlesham, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.

Wynford, L.Young, B.

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3. (i) Report—(ii) Accounts—

for 1998–99 of the Crown Estate, laid under the Crown Estate Act 1961;4. Account for 1998–99 of the English Sports Council Lottery Distribution, together with

the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Lottery etc.Act 1993;

5. Accounts for 1998–99 of the National Debt Commissioners’ Gilt–edged OYcialOperations, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid underthe Finance Act 1993;

6. Report for 1998–99 of the English National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and HealthVisiting, laid under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997;

7. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council(EPSRC), together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid underthe Science and Technology Act 1965;

8. Report for 1998–99 of the Gaming Board for Great Britain, laid under the Gaming Act1968;

9. Report for 1998–99 of the Welsh Language Board, laid under the Welsh Language Act1993.

Select Committee Report

9. Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was madeand ordered to be printed:25th Report, on the Northern Ireland Bill. (HL Paper 89)

Public Business

10. Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that in the event that oneor more statutory instruments relating to Northern Ireland are laid before the Housetomorrow or on Friday next, a motion or motions to approve them may, notwithstanding thepractice of the House, be moved that day without notice; and that Standing Order 70(AYrmative Instruments) be dispensed with to enable the motion or motions to be taken,notwithstanding that no report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments on theinstruments has been laid before the House; the motion was agreed to.

11. Northern Ireland Bill—A bill to make provision for the suspension in certain circumstances ofdevolved government in Northern Ireland and the exercise of certain functions conferred byor under Part V of the Northern Ireland Act 1998; and for connected purposes, having beenbrought from the Commons earlier this day and printed pursuant to Standing Order 48, wasread a first time; the Queen’s Consent was signified; then, Standing Order 44 having beendispensed with, it was moved by the Lord Dubs that the bill be now read a second time; afterdebate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the WholeHouse.

12. Northern Ireland Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill beprinted. (HL Bill 82–EN)

13. Northern Ireland Act 1974 (Interim Period Extension) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordDubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 7th July be approved; after debate, themotion was agreed to.

14. Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill—A bill to apply a sum out of the Consolidated Fund tothe service of the year ending on 31st March 2000; to appropriate the supplies granted in thisSession of Parliament; and to repeal certain Consolidated Fund and Appropriation Acts wasbrought from the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is amoney bill and read a first time.

15. Access to Justice Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered; certain Commonsamendments were agreed to; another Commons amendment was disagreed to (see divisionlist); certain other Commons amendments were disagreed to; a Committee was appointed topropose reasons for such disagreement.The Lords following were named of the Committee:Falconer of Thoroton, L.Kingsland, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reason in relation to Commonsamendments 27 to 30:

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“Because it is not appropriate for the Legal Services Commission itself to provide advice,assistance or representation to individuals involved in criminal investigations or criminalproceedings.”and the following reason in relation to Commons amendment 31:“Because an individual who has been provided with advice or assistance funded by theCommission under section 14 should not be taken to have selected as his representativepursuant to that right the person who provided the advice or assistance. ”The Report was agreed to; another Commons amendment was agreed to with an amendment;the remaining Commons amendments were agreed to; then the bill was returned to theCommons with the reasons and amendment.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past midnightin the morning of Thursday 15th July till later the same day,

two o’clock in the afternoon for judicial business, three o’clock for public business.

DIVISION

ACCESS TO JUSTICE BILL [HL]It was moved by the Lord Thomas of Gresford that this House do disagree with the Commons in theiramendment No. 27; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 141

Not-Contents … … … … … 85

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.Addison, V.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackwell, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Brougham and Vaux, L.Buckinghamshire, E.Burnham, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Chesham, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleraine, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Dahrendorf, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dholakia, L.Downshire, M.Dundee, E.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.

Elton, L.Ezra, L.Falkland, V.Fookes, B.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gray, L.Hamwee, B.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harmsworth, L.Harris of Greenwich, L. [Teller]Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]Higgins, L.Hogg, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Howe, E.Howe of Aberavon, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Jacobs, L.Kingsland, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Lane of Horsell, L.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.

Mackintosh of Halifax, V.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Monk Bretton, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Naseby, L.Newby, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norton of Louth, L.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Parkinson, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Romney, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.

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Steel of Aikwood, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Tebbit, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Chandos, V.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.

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The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.

Thurso, V.Tope, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.

Dubs, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hayman, B.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Islwyn, L.Kirkhill, L.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.

Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Belstead, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.

Wallace of Saltaire, L.Wigoder, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Wise, L.Wynford, L.

McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Uddin, B.Warner, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Butterfield, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.

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Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carlisle of Bucklow, L.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carter, L.Castle of Blackburn, B.Chalfont, L.Chalker of Wallasey, B.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Christopher, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clark of Kempston, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleraine, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Islandreagh, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cuckney, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Dahrendorf, L.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dubs, L.Dudley, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.

Elles, B.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Fookes, B.Forbes, L.Forsyth of Drumlean, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Gowrie, E.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Greenway, L.Greenwood, V.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Haig, E.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.HoVmann, L.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.

Hollick, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hood, V.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hope of Craighead, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hussey of North Bradley, L.Hutton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Jopling, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Kimball, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kirkwood, L.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Knutsford, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Laming, L.Lamont of Lerwick, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Ludford, B.Luke, L.Lytton, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McFarlane of LlandaV, B.McIntosh of Haringey, L.

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Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Mar and Kellie, E.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Miller of Hendon, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moran, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Napier of Magdala, L.Naseby, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Norfolk, D.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Onslow, E.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.

Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Plant of Highfield, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Quirk, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Rea, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renton, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Renwick, L.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Saint Albans, D.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Sandys, L.Saville of Newdigate, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Selkirk of Douglas, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shaughnessy, L.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Simon of Highbury, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.

Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Steyn, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.SuYeld, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Thatcher, B.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Tugendhat, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warnock, B.Warwick of UndercliVe, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Wise, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

Judicial Business

1. Swiggs and others (Respondents) v. Nagarajan (A.P.) (Appellant)—The Report from theAppellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Courtof Appeal of 7th November 1997 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation and that the Ordersof the Industrial Tribunal of 23rd June 1994 and 23rd August 1994 be restored; that therespondents do pay to the appellant his costs in the Court of Appeal and before this House,the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if notagreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellant in this House be taxed inaccordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

2. Mann and others (Appellants) v. Secretary of State for Employment (Respondent)—The Reportfrom the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order ofthe Court of Appeal of 30th September 1996 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with costs,the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between theparties, such costs to include provision for three counsel for each party.

3. Axis West Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Chartwell Land Investments Limited(Respondents) (Scotland)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it wasordered and adjudged that the Interlocutor of the First Division of the Court of Session of14th November 1997 be aYrmed and the appeal dismissed with the costs of the proceedingsin this House, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreedbetween the parties; and that the cause be remitted back to the Inner House of the Court ofSession to deal with any question of expenses which may be outstanding.

4. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates’ Court and Allison (A.P.) (Respondent) ex parte Government ofthe United States of America (Appellants) (On appeal from a Divisional Court of the Queen’sBench Division)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was orderedand adjudged that the appeal be allowed; that the Order of the Divisional Court of 13th May1998 be set aside; that the decision of Mr Evans, sitting at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court on11th June 1997, to discharge the respondent on the first and second proposed charges bequashed; that the cause be remitted back to the Magistrates at Bow Street for re-consideration;and that there be no order as to costs.

5. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Appellant) v. Reeves (A.P.) (Joint administratrix ofthe Estate of Martin Lynch, deceased) (Respondent)—The Report from the AppellateCommittee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appealof 10th November 1997 be varied so that, in paragraph 2, for the figure “£8,690” there shallbe substituted the figure “£4,345” and the words “in the sum of £400” shall be deleted; thatthe costs of the respondent in this House be paid by the appellant, the amount thereof to becertified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costsof the respondent in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

6. Appeal Committee—The 52nd Report was made; the Appeal Committee reported that they hadmet and had heard Counsel; the report was agreed to and the following Orders were made—Hamilton (Respondent) v. Al Fayed (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given on terms thatthe petitioner do pay the respondent’s costs in any event and that the petition of appeal belodged by 29th July next.Gibbs Mew plc (Respondents) v. Gemmel (A.P.) (Petitioner) and one other action—Thatleave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the LegalAid Act 1988; and that the respondents costs be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordancewith section 18 of the Legal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended until 12th August toenable the Legal Aid board to object if they wish.Passmore (Petitioner) v. Morland plc and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal berefused; and that the petitioners do pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, the amountthereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC) (formerly known as Inntrepreneur Pub Company (CPC)Limited) (Respondents) v. Langton (A.P.) (Petitioner) and another—That leave to appeal berefused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988;and that the respondents costs be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordance with section18 of the Legal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended until 12th August to enable the LegalAid board to object if they wish.MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware as Trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust) (Respondents) v. Bishopsgate InvestmentTrust plc and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; and that the petitionersdo pay to the respondents the costs of the petition, the amount thereof be certified by the Clerkof the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.MCC Proceeds Inc (incorporated under the laws of the state of Delaware as trustee of TheMaxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust) (Petitioners) v. Bishopsgate InvestmentTrust plc and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

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7. Lord Forsyth of Drumlean—The Right Honourable Sir Michael Bruce Forsyth, Knight, havingbeen created Baron Forsyth of Drumlean in Stirling, for life by Letters Patent dated in theforenoon of 14th July 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Harris of HighCross and the Baroness Thatcher, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter Kingof Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

8. Baroness Warwick of UndercliVe—Miss Diana Mary Warwick, having been created BaronessWarwick of UndercliVe, in the County of West Yorkshire, for life by Letters Patent dated 10thJuly 1999 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Symons of Vernham Deanand the Baroness Amos, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Armspreceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

9. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Long Term Care—Government Response to the 4th Report of the House of Commons HealthCommittee on Long Term Care. (4414)

10. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie onthe Table:Merchant Shipping (Marine Equipment) Regulations 1999, laid under the EuropeanCommunities Act 1972. (1957)

11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of:

(i) the Medicines Control Agency—(ii) the Central OYce of Information—(iii) the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre—(iv) the Vehicle Inspectorate—

together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theGovernment Trading Funds Act 1973;

2. Financial Statements for 1998–99 of the South Bank Centre, laid under the LocalGovernment Act 1985;

3. Report for 1998–99 of the English Tourist Board, laid under the Development of TourismAct 1969;

4. Reports for 1998 of the Medicines Act 1968 Advisory Bodies, laid under the MedicinesAct 1968;

5. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Scottish Higher Education Funding Council, together withthe Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Further and HigherEducation (Scotland) Act 1992;

6. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Countryside Council for Wales, together with the Report ofthe Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Environmental Protection Act1990;

7. Report for 1998–99 of the National Disability Council, laid under the DisabilityDiscrimination Act 1995;

8. Report for 1998–99 of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC),together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Scienceand Technology Act 1965.

Public Business

12. Company and Business Names (Chamber of Commerce, Etc.) Bill—The order of commitment wasdischarged.

13. Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill (Money Bill)—It was moved by the Lord McIntosh ofHaringey that the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the Committeewas negatived; then, Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a thirdtime and passed.

14. Trustee Delegation Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to.

15. Commonwealth Development Corporation Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commonsagreed to with amendments and with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that theCommons amendments be printed. (HL Bill 83)

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16. Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [hl]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed towith amendments and with a privilege amendment; it was ordered that the Commonsamendments be printed. (HL Bill 84)

17. Employment Relations Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to;amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); an amendment was moved and (byleave of the House) withdrawn; then the bill was passed and returned to the Commons withamendments.

18. Local Government Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were moved and (by leave ofthe House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); then the bill waspassed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

19. Royal Assent—The Lord Speaker (Baroness Serota) notified the Queen’s Assent to thefollowing Acts:Appropriation Act c. 13Protection of Children Act c. 14Trustee Delegation Act c. 15

20. Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.

21. Football (OVences and Disorder) Bill—It was moved by the Lord Archer of Weston-Super-Marethat the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill wascommitted to a Committee of the Whole House.

22. National Health Service (General Medical Services) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1999—It wasmoved by the Earl Howe that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying thatthe Regulations, laid before the House on 10th June, be annulled (S.I. 1999/1627); afterdebate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

The House was adjourned at half-past eight o’clocktill tomorrow, eleven o’clock.

DIVISIONSDivision No. 1

EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BILLIt was moved by the Lord Razzall, after clause 17, to insert the new Clause (Discrimination in the work-place on grounds of sexual orientation); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, andthe House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 33

Not-Contents … … … … … 126

CONTENTS

Beaumont of Whitley, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Clement-Jones, L.Dholakia, L.Falkland, V.Geraint, L.Grey, E.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.Linklater of Butterstone, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Barnett, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.

McNair, L.McNally, L.Mar and Kellie, E.Methuen, L.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Newby, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Razzall, L. [Teller]Redesdale, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.

Blackstone, B.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.

Russell, E. [Teller]Sandberg, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Smith of Clifton, L.Taverne, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thurso, V.Tope, L.Wigoder, L.Williams of Crosby, B.

Charteris of Amisfield, L.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.Dacre of Glanton, L.David, B.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.

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Desai, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dubs, L.Dunleath, L.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Haskel, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes, L.

Division No. 2

EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, in Schedule 1, page 31, line 5, at end to insert (“if it ispart of a business employing more than 50 workers in total, or at least 50 per cent of the workers if thereare more than 20 but less than 51 workers employed by the said business on either of the dates referredto in paragraph 7(1) of this Schedule”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, andthe House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 108

Not-Contents … … … … … 137

CONTENTS

Alexander of Tunis, E.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berners, B.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Burnham, L. [Teller]Buscombe, B.Byford, B.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carnegy of Lour, B.Chalker of Wallasey, B.

Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jeger, B.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.Knutsford, V.Leigh, L.Lockwood, B.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mallalieu, B.Marsh, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newall, L.Nunburnholme, L.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.

Charteris of Amisfield, L.Clark of Kempston, L.Coleraine, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cranborne, V.Crickhowell, L.Dacre of Glanton, L.Davidson, V.Denham, L.Dilhorne, V.Dixon-Smith, L.Donegall, M.Downshire, M.Eden of Winton, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Erroll, E.Forsyth of Drumlean, L.Gainford, L.

Peston, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stallard, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Tenby, V.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, LWarner, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.

Geddes, L.Gisborough, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Greenway, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Harlech, L.Harrowby, E.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L. [Teller]HolmPatrick, L.Home, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Knutsford, V.Lauderdale, E.Leigh, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Long, V.Luke, L.McColl of Dulwich, L.

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Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Hendon, B.Monk Bretton, L.Monson, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.Newton of Braintree, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.O’Cathain, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burlison, L.Calverley, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L. [Teller]Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.

Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Platt of Writtle, B.Plumb, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Rawlings, B.Reay, L.Renton of Mount Harry, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Seccombe, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.

Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Hamwee, B.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hollis of Heigham, B.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Irvine of Lairg, L.

(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Lockwood, B.Lovell-Davis, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Mallalieu, B.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Monkswell, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Newby, L.Paul, L.Peston, L.

Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Stewartby, L.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Teviot, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Trefgarne, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Westbury, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.

Phillips of Sudbury, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Richard, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sandberg, L.Sawyer, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Sharp of Guildford, B.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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Division No. 3

LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILLIt was moved by the Baroness Hamwee, in Clause 30, page 18, line 18, at end to insert:

(“(3) Schedule 1 shall cease to have eVect on 1st April 2005 unless previously extended by order madeby statutory instrument and laid in draft before, and approved by resolution of, both Houses ofParliament.

(4) An order laid under subsection (3) shall not apply for a period exceeding five years.(5) If an order laid pursuant to subsection (3) is approved, Schedule 1 shall cease to have eVect on

the date specified in the order subject to any subsequent order or orders approved by both Houses ofParliament none of which shall extend its eVect for more than five years.

(6) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (3), if Schedule 1 has ceased to have eVect it mayat any time be revived by order made by statutory instrument laid in draft before, and approved byresolution of, both Houses of Parliament in which event subsection (3) shall thereafter apply.”);which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents … … … … … … 81

Not-Contents … … … … … 100

CONTENTS

Addington, L.Annaly, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.Blyth, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Burnham, L.Buscombe, B.Byford, B.Carlisle, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Clark of Kempston, L.Clement-Jones, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Dholakia, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Downshire, M.Elton, L.Falkland, V.Ferrers, E.Fookes, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Archer of Sandwell, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Bach, L.Barnett, L.Berkeley, L.Blackstone, B.Borrie, L.Bragg, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Burlison, L.Carter, L. [Teller]

Freeman, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gisborough, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gray, L.Grey, E.Hamwee, B. [Teller]Hanningfield, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harrowby, E.Howe, E.Hurd of Westwell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Marlesford, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.

[Teller]Miller of Hendon, B.Monk Bretton, L.

Castle of Blackburn, B.Christopher, L.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Crawley, B.David, B.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Desai, L.Diamond, L.Dixon, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.

Munster, E.Norrie, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Phillips of Sudbury, L.Rawlings, B.Razzall, L.Redesdale, L.Rochester, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Sandberg, L.Seccombe, B.Sharp of Guildford, B.Smith of Clifton, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Torrington, V.Wade of Chorlton, L.Warnock, B.Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Wynford, L.

Falconer of Thoroton, L.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Greenway, L.Grenfell, L.Hacking, L.Hanworth, V.Hardie, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Haskel, L.

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(Lord Chancellor)Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.

(Lord Privy Seal)Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennet, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]Mallalieu, B.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved CounsellorSir Michael Bruce Forsyth Knight to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Forsythof Drumlean of Drumlean in StirlingAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Forsyth of Drumlean to have and to hold unto him for his lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the forenoon of the fourteenth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Miss Diana MaryWarwick to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Warwick of UndercliVe ofUndercliVe in Our County of West YorkshireAnd for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baroness Warwick of UndercliVe to have and to hold unto her for her lifeWilling and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoyIn Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the tenth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Nicol, B.Peston, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Puttnam, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rea, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renwick of Clifton, L.Richard, L.Sainsbury of Turville, L.Sawyer, L.

Serota, B.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Highbury, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Walker of Doncaster, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Whitty, L.Williams of Elvel, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Avebury, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Birdwood, L.Blatch, B.Blyth, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bridgeman, V.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Burnham, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Campbell of Alloway, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carter, L.Clancarty, E.Clinton-Davis, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Crawley, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Denbigh, E.Devonport, V.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Gloucester.

Papers

1. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:Investment Incentives—Agreement between the United Kingdom on behalf of the Turks andCaicos Islands and the United States of America relating to Investment Incentives.

(4395)

Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eames, L.Evans of Parkside, L.Exmouth, V.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Fitt, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Geraint, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Gloucester, Bp.Goudie, B.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Healey, L.Henley, L.Holderness, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooson, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Ironside, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jellicoe, E.Kennet, L.Lauderdale, E.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.McNair, L.Maddock, B.Marsh, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Munster, E.

Newall, L.Newby, L.Norrie, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Park of Monmouth, B.Paul, L.Peston, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rathcavan, L.Reay, L.Redesdale, L.Richard, L.Rotherwick, L.Russell-Johnston, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sawyer, L.Seccombe, B.Shannon, E.Shaughnessy, L.Shepherd, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Strabolgi, L.Strathclyde, L.Swinfen, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trenchard, V.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Walton of Detchant, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Westbury, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.

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2. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Scottish Hospital Trust, laid under the National

Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;2. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Highlands and Islands Enterprise Council, laid

under the Enterprise and New Towns (Scotland) Act 1990;3. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Radiocommunications Agency, laid under the

Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921.

Public Business

3. North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order1999—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 28th Junebe approved; the motion was agreed to.

4. Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Procedural Rules) Order 1999—

5. Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Guidelines) Order 1999—

6. Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Code of Conduct) Order 1999—It was moved bythe Lord Dubs that the draft Orders laid before the House on 30th June be approved en bloc;after debate, the motion was agreed to.

7. Aeroplane Noise (Amendment) Regulations 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Farrington ofRibbleton that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 29th June be approved; themotion was agreed to.

8. Local Authorities (Contracting Out of Highway Functions) Order 1999—It was moved by theBaroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 26th May beapproved; the motion was agreed to

9. Stansted Airport Aircraft Movement Limit (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by theBaroness Farrington of Ribbleton that the draft Order laid before the House on 16th June beapproved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

10. International Organisations (Immunities and Privileges) Miscellaneous Provisions Order 1999—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean, thatthe draft Order laid before the House on 1st July be approved; after debate, the motion wasagreed to.

11. INTELSAT (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordCarter, on behalf of the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean, that the draft Order laid beforethe House on 5th July be approved; the motion was agreed to.

12. International Copper Study Group (Legal Capacities) Order 1999—It was moved by the LordCarter, on behalf of the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean, that the draft Order laid beforethe House on 21st May be approved; the motion was agreed to.

13. Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl]—The report was received; an amendment was agreed to; itwas ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 85)

14. Road TraYc (Enforcement Powers) Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sentto the Commons.

15. Road TraYc (Use of Mobile Telephones) Bill [hl]—The order of commitment was discharged.The House was adjourned at twenty-four minutes past twelve o’clock

to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailesbury, M.Ailsa, M.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Biddulph, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Butterworth, L.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.

Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carrick, E.Carter, L.Carver, L.Chadlington, L.Chalfont, L.Chesham, L.Chorley, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Clyde, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Coleridge, L.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Cranborne, V.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.De Freyne, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dubs, L.Eatwell, L.Elibank, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.

Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Feversham, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Flowers, L.Fookes, B.Forsyth of Drumlean, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Goschen, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Gray, L.Grey, E.Gridley, L.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamwee, B.Hankey, L.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harlech, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.

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Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.Millett, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Naseby, L.Nathan, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton, L.Norwich, Bp.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Perry of Walton, L.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.

Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.Saint Albans, D.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandwich, E.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Slynn of Hadley, L.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Stewartby, L.Steyn, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Tweeddale, M.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1. Leave of Absence—It was ordered that the leave of absence granted to the Viscount Margesson beterminated.

Judicial Business

2. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Daly (A.P.)(Petitioner)—The petition of George Anthony Daly praying for leave to appeal was presentedand referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioners legal aid certificate was lodged.

3. United Norwest Co-operatives Limited (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise(Respondents)—The petition of United Norwest Co-operatives Limited praying for leave toappeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

4. London Borough of Bromley (Respondents) v. Morritt (Petitioner)—The petition of JeremyDaniel Morritt praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee.

5. Miah and others (Respondents) v. Khan (A.P.) (Appellant) and one other action—The petition ofthe appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 31st August next or to the third sitting day afterthe next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

6. Turkington and others (practising as McCartan Turkington Breen) (Respondents) v. TimesNewspapers Limited (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of the appellants prayingthat the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearingmight be extended to 31st August next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meetingof the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it wasordered as prayed.

7. Consorzio del Prosciutto di Parma (Appellants) v. ASDA Stores Limited and others(Respondents)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statementand appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next(the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered asprayed.

Papers

8. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laidbefore the House on 16th July, were ordered to lie on the Table:1. Magistrates’ Courts (Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders) (Hague

Convention Countries) Rules 1999, laid under the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980; (2002)2. Holme Lacy College (Dissolution) Order 1999, laid under the Further and Higher

Education Act 1992; (1997)3. Independent Analogue Broadcasters (Reservation of Digital Capacity) (Amendment)

Order 1999, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1996. (1996)

9. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:1. (i) Pressure Equipment Regulations 1999— (2001)

(ii) Yugoslavia (Prohibition of Flights) Regulations 1999— (2018)laid under the European Communities Act 1972;

2. General Teaching Council for England (Constitution) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,laid under the Teaching and Higher Education Act 1998. (2019)

10. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Pay and Personnel Agency, together with the

Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Exchequer and AuditDepartments Act 1921;

Westbury, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.

Williams of Mostyn, L.Wilson of Tillyorn, L.Winston, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Young, B.Young of Dartington, L.Young of Old Scone, B.

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2. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Liverpool Housing Action Trust, laid under theHousing Act 1988;

3. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, togetherwith the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the HumanFertilisation and Embryology Act 1990;

4. Report for 1998–99 of the Serious Fraud OYce, laid under the Criminal Justice Act 1987;5. Report for 1998–99 of the Countryside Council for Wales, laid under the Environmental

Protection Act 1990;6. Report for 1998–99 of the Audit Commission, laid under the Audit Commission Act

1998;

27. Report for 1998–99 of the Criminal Cases Review Commission, laid under the Criminal AppealAct 1995.

Select Committee Report

11. Liaison—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); it was ordered thatthe Report be printed. (HL Paper 90)

Public Business

12. Immigration and Asylum Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed.

13. Disability Rights Commission Bill [hl]—The Commons amendments were considered and agreedto; and the privilege amendment was agreed to.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.The House was resumed.

14. Immigration and Asylum Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill;amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee)withdrawn; the House was resumed after clause 59 stood part.

The House was adjourned at five minutes past midnightin the morning of Tuesday 20th July till later the same day,

half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.

APPENDIX

LIAISON COMMITTEE

Second ReportSession 1998–99

Monday 19 July 1999

By the Select Committee appointed to advise the House on the resources required for select committeework and to allocate resources between select committees; to review the select committee work of theHouse; to consider requests for ad hoc committees and report to the House with recommendations; toensure eVective co-ordination between the two Houses; and to consider the availability of Lords to serveon committees.

Ordered to Report

Future committee activity1. The Committee has given further consideration to the future committee work of the House.

Overseas Trade2. We were informed of the withdrawal by Lord Ezra of his proposal for a new committee on OverseasTrade to review developments since the last committee on that subject reported in 1985.

International AVairs3. We considered a proposal put forward by the Earl of Sandwich for the establishment of a SelectCommittee on International AVairs. This would be a sessional rather than an ad hoc committee. We

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have doubts about the timeliness of appointing such a committee now, but we noted the strength ofsupport for the proposal from members of the House and we propose to keep the matter under review.

Pre-legislative scrutiny4. In our First Report of this Session we welcomed the involvement of this House in pre-legislativescrutiny, but expressed the hope that it would in future be possible to co-ordinate the appointment ofsimilar committees and to give reasonable notice in each case. We were therefore disappointed to notethat the Select Committee on the draft Freedom of Information Bill had been appointed at short noticeat the same time as the Joint Committee on the draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards)Bill, creating acute staYng diYculties. We were however encouraged to learn that the Government hopeto be able to introduce a degree of co-ordination into the arrangements for pre-legislative scrutinynext Session.

Ad hoc committees5. We were informed that the Select Committee on the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank ofEngland is expected to report shortly. In the autumn we hope to be able to recommend the appointmentof a successor ad hoc committee, and we shall welcome proposals for suitable subjects.

Committee staV

6. We noted with satisfaction the Clerk of the Parliaments’ intention to strengthen the staV of theCommittee OYce in the autumn, by means of the appointment of two additional Clerks and threeadditional support staV, with a view to increasing the resources available to serve existing committeesand to provide some capacity to serve committees undertaking pre-legislative scrutiny.

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alanbrooke, V.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allen of Abbeydale, L.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annaly, L.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Bell, L.

Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blackstone, B.Blackwell, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Bledisloe, V.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Boston of Faversham, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Brentford, V.Brett, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brigstocke, B.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.

Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Chichester, Bp.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colville of Culross, V.Colwyn, L.Cooke of Thorndon, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Cranborne, V.Cranbrook, E.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Croham, L.

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Cromwell, L.Cross, V.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denbigh, E.Denham, L.Denton of Wakefield, B.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Digby, L.Dinevor, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Eames, L.Eden of Winton, L.EYngham, E.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Elton, L.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Faulkner of Worcester, L.Ferrers, E.Feversham, L.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forsyth of Drumlean, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freyberg, L.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.Gisborough, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Gladwyn, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Goodhart, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Graham of Edmonton, L.Grantchester, L.

Grantley, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hanningfield, L.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Hamwee, B.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harris of High Cross, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Haslam, L.Hayhoe, L.Hayter, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Hollenden, L.Hollis of Heigham, B.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hurd of Westwell, L.Hutchinson of Lullington, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Imbert, L.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.JeVreys, L.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkin of Roding, L.Jenkins of Hillhead, L.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kenilworth, L.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.

Knight of Collingtree, B.Knights, L.Knollys, V.Laming, L.Lane of Horsell, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lindsay, E.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lovell-Davis, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.Lytton, E.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.Mackintosh of Halifax, V.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mallalieu, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Methuen, L.Miller of Hendon, B.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Moore of Wolvercote, L.Morris, L.Morris of Castle Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Moynihan, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.

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Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.Northesk, E.Norton of Louth, L.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxford, Bp.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Paul, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Walton, L.Perth, E.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pike, B.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Pitkeathley, B.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Redesdale, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ridley, V.Rix, L.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rosslyn, E.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1. The Lord Faulkner of Worcester—Richard Oliver Faulkner Esquire, having been created BaronFaulkner of Worcester, of Wimbledon in the London Borough of Merton, for life by LettersPatent dated in the afternoon of 14th July 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between theLord Cledwyn of Penrhos and the Lord Carter, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod andGarter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

2. The Lord Brett—William Henry Brett Esquire, having been created Baron Brett, of Lydd in theCounty of Kent, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 20th July 1999 (seeappendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean and the LordBrooke of Alverthorpe, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Armspreceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Russell-Johnston, L.Ryder of Wensum, L.Saatchi, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharp of Guildford, B.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, L.Shore of Stepney, L.Shrewsbury, E.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Southwark, Bp.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stern, B.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Stone of Blackheath, L.Strabolgi, L.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taverne, L.Taylor of Blackburn, L.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Tenby, V.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.

Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurso, V.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.Torrington, V.Townshend, M.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Tryon, L.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Ullswater, V.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Wakeham, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Walker of Worcester, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.Walpole, L.Warner, L.Warwick of UndercliVe, B.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Willoughby de Broke, L.Windlesham, L.Winston, L.Wright of Richmond, L.Wynford, L.Young, B.Young of Old Scone, B.Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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Judicial Business

3. Morgans (Appellant) v. Director of Public Prosecutions (Respondent) (On Appeal from aDivisional Court of the Queen’s Bench Division)—The appeal of Stephen Morgans waspresented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.

4. Three Rivers District Council and others (Original Appellants and Cross-Respondents) v.Governor and Company of the Bank of England (Original Respondents and Cross-Appellants)—The petition of the original appellants praying that the time for lodging thestatement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 31stAugust next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agentsfor the original respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

5. Arthur J S Hall & Co (Appellants) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—The petition of the appellantspraying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause forhearing might be extended to 30th August next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuingmeeting of the House (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; andit was ordered as prayed (lodged 16th July).

6. Cockbone (Respondent) v. Atkinson Dacre and Slack (a firm) (Appellants)—The petition of theappellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next or to the third sitting day after thenext ensuing meeting of the House (the respondent not consenting thereto) was presented; andit was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 16th July).

7. Barratt (Respondent) v. Ansell and others (trading as Woolf Seddon (a firm)) (Appellants)—Thepetition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix andsetting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next or to the third sittingday after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondent consentingthereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 16th July).

8. Harris (Respondent) v. Scholfield Roberts & Hill (a firm) (Appellants) and others—The petitionof the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and settingdown the cause for hearing might be extended to 30th August next or to the third sitting dayafter the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto)was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 16th July).

9. Johnson (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Gore Wood & Co (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of theappellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down thecause for hearing might be extended to six weeks after the determination of the petition forleave to cross appeal (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; andit was ordered as prayed.

10. Garner (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent) v. Pounds Shipowners and ShipbreakersLimited (Appellants) and one other action—The petition of the appellants praying that thetime for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might beextended to 31st August next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of theHouse (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was orderedas prayed.

11. Three Rivers District Council and others (Appellants) v. Governor and Company of the Bank ofEngland (Respondents) (Second Appeal)—The petition of the appellants, praying that theappeal be restored and that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting downthe cause for hearing might be extended to 31st August next or to the third sitting day afterthe next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto), waspresented; and it was ordered as prayed.

12. Union Carbide Corporation (a body corporate) (Respondents) v. B P Chemicals Limited(Petitioners)—Upon application by the petitioners (the agents for the respondents consentingthereto), it was ordered that the petition be withdrawn and that there be no order as to costs.

13. Magill (Appellant) v. Porter (Respondent)—It was ordered that the appellant be allowed toprosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.

14. Magill (Appellant) v. Weeks (Respondent)—It was ordered that the appellant be allowed toprosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.

15. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 40th Report:Birmingham City Council (Petitioners) v. Oakley (A.P.) (Respondent)—That leave to appealbe given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 3rd August next.

16. Appeal Committee—The 53rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and thefollowing Order was made—In re P (a minor) and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused.

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17. Appeal Committee—The 54th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made—

Rembrandt Group Limited (Petitioners) v. Philip Morris International Incorporated(Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 3rd August next.

Anderton (A.P.) (by her mother and next friend) (Petitioner) v. Clwyd County Council(Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 3rd August next.

Regina v. The Family Health Services Appeal Authority and Boots the Chemists(Respondents) ex parte E Moss Limited (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodgeobjections by 3rd August next.

Paragon Finance plc (formerly known as National Home Loans plc) and others(Respondents) v. Freshfields (a Firm) (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that therespondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if theapplication is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments ifnot agreed between the parties.

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Petitioner) ex parte Gashi (A.P.)(Respondent)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 3rd August next.

Saleslease Limited (Petitioners) v. Davis (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; thatthe respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, ifthe application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliamentsif not agreed between the parties.

Papers

18. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majestyand ordered to lie on the Table:

Competition Commission—A report on the proposed merger of British Airways plc andCityFlyer Express Limited. (4346)

19. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lieon the Table:

1. Education (Grants in respect of Voluntary Aided Schools) Regulations 1999, laid underthe School Standards and Framework Act 1998; (2020)

2. Animal FeedingstuVs from Belgium (Control) (England and Wales) Regulations 1999,laid under the European Communities Act 1972; (2026)

3. Food (Animals and Animal Products from Belgium) (Emergency Control) (England andWales) Order 1999, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990. (2025)

20. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the Houseand ordered to lie on the Table:

1. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of:

(i) the Scottish Court Service—

(ii) the Ordnance Survey—

together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theExchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;

2. Report for 1998–99 of the Welsh Development Agency, laid under the WelshDevelopment Agency Act 1975;

3. Report for 1998–99 of the National Lottery Commission, laid under the National Lotteryetc. Act 1993;

4. Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of British Waterways, laid under the Transport Act1962;

5. Report of the Law Commission and the Scottish Law Commission on Trustees’ Powersand Duties, laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965;

6. West Midlands (Coroners’ Districts) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the CoronersAct 1988; (1990)

7. Report for 1999 of the Sentence Review Commissioners, laid under the Northern Ireland(Sentences) Act 1998;

8. Account for 1998–99 of the English National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and HealthVisiting, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid underthe Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997;

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9. Report for 1998–99 of the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council, laidunder the Science and Technology Act 1965;

10. Revenue and Capital Accounts for 1998–99 of the Duchy of Lancaster, laid under theDuchies of Lancaster and Cornwall (Accounts) Act 1838;

11. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Welsh Development Agency, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Welsh Development Agency Act 1975;

12. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Development Board for Rural Wales, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Development of RuralWales Act 1976;

13. Accounts for 1998 of the Land Authority for Wales, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Government, Planning and LandAct 1980;

14. Accounts for 1998–99 of:(i) the Further Education Funding Council for England—(ii) the Higher Education Funding Council for England—

together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under theFurther and Higher Education Act 1992;

15. Accounts for 1998–99 of Scottish Homes, together with the Report of the Comptrollerand Auditor General, laid under the Housing (Scotland) Act 1988;

16. Accounts for 1998–99 of the Funding Agency for Schools, together with the Report ofthe Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Act 1996;

17. Accounts for 1998–99 of Scottish Enterprise, together with the Report of the Comptrollerand Auditor General, laid under the Enterprise and New Towns (Scotland) Act 1990;

18. Accounts for 1998–99 of the National Radiological Protection Board, together with theReport of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Radiological ProtectionAct 1970;

19. Accounts for 1998–99 of the British Library Board, together with the Report of theComptroller and Auditor General, laid under the British Library Act 1972.

Select Committee Reports

21. Statutory Instruments—The 26th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutoryinstruments, including the following aYrmative instruments:Draft Courses for Drink-Drive OVenders (Experimental Period) (Termination ofRestrictions) Order 1999;Draft Jobseeker’s Allowance Amendment (New Deal) Regulations 1999;it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 91)

22. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made andordered to be printed:Taxes in the EU: can co-ordination and competition co-exist?, together with the Minutes ofEvidence; (15th Report–HL Paper 92)Organic Farming and the European Union, together with the Minutes of Evidence; (16thReport–HL Paper 93)Correspondence with Ministers. (17th Report–HL Paper 94)

Public Business

23. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Carter, on behalf of the Baroness Jay ofPaddington, that Standing Order 44 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) bedispensed with on Friday next to allow the Finance Bill to be taken through its remainingstages that day; the motion was agreed to.

24. Adoption (Intercountry Aspects) Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

25. Genetically Modified Crops Bill [hl]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to theCommons.

26. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; an amendment wasagreed to; the House was resumed.

27. Meat Hygiene Service—The Lord Stoddart of Swindon asked Her Majesty’s Government whetherthey are satisfied with the performance and eVectiveness of the Meat Hygiene Service; afterdebate, the question was answered by the Lord Donoughue.

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28. Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon thebill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments wereagreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was orderedthat the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 86)

The House was adjourned at thirteen minutes before midnighttill tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Richard OliverFaulkner Esquire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Faulkner of Worcester ofWimbledon in Our London Borough of Merton

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Faulkner of Worcester to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the afternoon of the fourteenth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain andNorthern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the CommonwealthDefender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever towhom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledgeand mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Usenabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved William HenryBrett Esquire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Brett of Lydd in Our Countyof Kent

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree styledignity title and honour of Baron Brett to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold andpossess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirsand successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and useall the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and ofright belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they doat present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminsterin the afternoon of the twentieth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

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The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.Aberdare, L.Ackner, L.Acton, L.Addington, L.Addison, V.Ahmed, L.Ailsa, M.Alderdice, L.Aldington, L.Alexander of Tunis, E.Allenby of Megiddo, V.Alli, L.Alton of Liverpool, L.Amos, B.Ampthill, L.Anelay of St. Johns, B.Annan, L.Archer of Sandwell, L.Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.Arlington, B.Ashbourne, L.Ashley of Stoke, L.Astor, V.Astor of Hever, L.Avebury, L.Bach, L.Baker of Dorking, L.Baldwin of Bewdley, E.Barnett, L.Bassam of Brighton, L.Beaumont of Whitley, L.Belhaven and Stenton, L.Berkeley, L.Berners, B.Biddulph, L.BiVen, L.Birdwood, L.Blaker, L.Blatch, B.Blease, L.Blyth, L.Boardman, L.Borrie, L.Bowness, L.Brabazon of Tara, L.Bragg, L.Bramall, L.Brentford, V.Brett, L.Bridgeman, V.Brightman, L.Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.Brookeborough, V.Brookman, L.Brooks of Tremorfa, L.Brougham and Vaux, L.Bruce of Donington, L.Bruntisfield, L.

Burlison, L.Burnham, L.Burns, L.Buscombe, B.Butler of Brockwell, L.Butterworth, L.Byford, B.Cadman, L.Caithness, E.Calverley, L.Campbell of Alloway, L.Campbell of Croy, L.Carew, L.Carlisle, E.Carnarvon, E.Carnegy of Lour, B.Carr of Hadley, L.Carrick, E.Carrington, L.Carter, L.Chalfont, L.Charteris of Amisfield, L.Chesham, L.Clancarty, E.Clanwilliam, E.Clarke of Hampstead, L.Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.Clement-Jones, L.Clinton-Davis, L.Cochrane of Cults, L.Cockfield, L.Cocks of HartcliVe, L.Colwyn, L.Cope of Berkeley, L.Courtown, E.Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.Cox, B.Craig of Radley, L.Craigavon, V.Craigmyle, L.Crathorne, L.Crawley, B.Crickhowell, L.Cross, V.Cumberlege, B.Dahrendorf, L.Darcy de Knayth, B.Dartmouth, E.David, B.Davidson, V.Davies of Coity, L.Davies of Oldham, L.Dean of Harptree, L.Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.Denham, L.Desai, L.Dholakia, L.Dixon, L.Dixon-Smith, L.

Donoughue, L.Dormand of Easington, L.Downshire, M.Drogheda, E.Dundonald, E.Dunleath, L.Dunrossil, V.Durham, Bp.Eatwell, L.Eccles, V.Eccles of Moulton, B.EYngham, E.Elder, L.Elibank, L.Ellenborough, L.Elles, B.Emerton, B.Erne, E.Erroll, E.Evans of Parkside, L.Evans of Watford, L.Ewing of Kirkford, L.Exmouth, V.Ezra, L.Fairfax of Cameron, L.Falconer of Thoroton, L.Falkland, V.Farrington of Ribbleton, B.Faulkner of Worcester, L.Feldman, L.Ferrers, E.Fitt, L.Flather, B.Fookes, B.Forsyth of Drumlean, L.Fraser of Carmyllie, L.Freeman, L.Freyberg, L.Gage, V.Gainford, L.Gainsborough, E.Gardner of Parkes, B.Garel-Jones, L.Geddes, L.Geraint, L.Gilbert, L.Gladwin of Clee, L.Glanusk, L.Glenarthur, L.Glentoran, L.Gordon of Strathblane, L.Gormanston, V.Goudie, B.Gould of Potternewton, B.Grafton, D.Graham of Edmonton, L.Gray, L.Gray of Contin, L.Greenway, L.

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Gregson, L.Grenfell, L.Grey, E.Hacking, L.Halsbury, E.Hamilton of Dalzell, L.Hamwee, B.Hanningfield, L.Hanworth, V.Harding of Petherton, L.Hardy of Wath, L.Harmar-Nicholls, L.Harris of Greenwich, L.Harris of Haringey, L.Harrowby, E.Haskel, L.Hayhoe, L.Henley, L.Hereford, Bp.Higgins, L.Hilton of Eggardon, B.Hindlip, L.Hogg, B.Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.Holderness, L.Holme of Cheltenham, L.HolmPatrick, L.Hooper, B.Hooson, L.Hothfield, L.Howe, E.Howell of Guildford, L.Howie of Troon, L.Hoyle, L.Hughes, L.Hughes of Woodside, L.Hunt of Kings Heath, L.Hunt of Wirral, L.Huntingdon, E.Hylton, L.Hylton-Foster, B.Ilchester, E.Ironside, L.Islwyn, L.Iveagh, E.Jakobovits, L.Janner of Braunstone, L.Jay of Paddington, B.Jeger, B.Jellicoe, E.Jenkins of Putney, L.Judd, L.Kennedy of The Shaws, B.Kennet, L.Keyes, L.Kimball, L.Kingsland, L.Kinloss, Ly.Kinnoull, E.Kintore, E.Kirkhill, L.Kitchener, E.Knight of Collingtree, B.Knollys, V.Laing of Dunphail, L.Lang of Monkton, L.Lauderdale, E.Lawrence, L.Lawson of Blaby, L.

Layton, L.Lea of Crondall, L.Leathers, V.Leigh, L.Lester of Herne Hill, L.Lewis of Newnham, L.Lindsey and Abingdon, E.Linklater of Butterstone, B.Listowel, E.Lockwood, B.Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.Long, V.Longford, E.Lucas, L.Lucas of Chilworth, L.Luke, L.Lyell, L.McCarthy, L.Macclesfield, E.McColl of Dulwich, L.McIntosh of Haringey, L.Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.Mackay of Drumadoon, L.Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.Mackie of Benshie, L.McNair, L.McNally, L.Maddock, B.Mancroft, L.Mar, C.Marlesford, L.Marsh, L.Masham of Ilton, B.Mason of Barnsley, L.Massereene and Ferrard, V.Mayhew of Twysden, L.Merlyn-Rees, L.Mersey, V.Meston, L.Middleton, L.Milner of Leeds, L.Milverton, L.Mishcon, L.Molloy, L.Molyneaux of Killead, L.Monk Bretton, L.Monkswell, L.Monson, L.Montagu of Beaulieu, L.Montague of Oxford, L.Montgomery of Alamein, V.Montrose, D.Morris, L.Morris of Manchester, L.Mountevans, L.Mountgarret, V.Mowbray and Stourton, L.Moyne, L.Munster, E.Murray of Epping Forest, L.Murton of Lindisfarne, L.Napier and Ettrick, L.Nelson, E.Newall, L.Newby, L.Newton of Braintree, L.Nicol, B.Noel-Buxton, L.Northbrook, L.

Northesk, E.Nunburnholme, L.O’Cathain, B.Oppenheim-Barnes, B.Orme, L.Oxfuird, V.Palmer, L.Park of Monmouth, B.Patel, L.Patten, L.Pearson of Rannoch, L.Peel, E.Pender, L.Perry of Southwark, B.Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L.Pilkington of Oxenford, L.Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.Porter of Luddenham, L.Portman, L.Prys-Davies, L.Puttnam, L.Pym, L.Ramsay of Cartvale, B.Randall of St. Budeaux, L.Rawlings, B.Redesdale, L.Rees, L.Rendell of Babergh, B.Rennell, L.Renton, L.Renwick, L.Richard, L.Ripon, Bp.Roberts of Conwy, L.Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.Rogers of Riverside, L.Rotherwick, L.Rowallan, L.Russell, E.Ryder of Wensum, L.St. Davids, V.St. John of Bletso, L.St. John of Fawsley, L.Saint Oswald, L.Sandberg, L.Sandford, L.Sandwich, E.Savile, L.Sawyer, L.Scotland of Asthal, B.Seccombe, B.Sefton of Garston, L.Serota, B.Sewel, L.Shannon, E.Sharples, B.Shaw of Northstead, L.Shepherd, LShore of Stepney, L.Simon, V.Simon of Glaisdale, L.Skelmersdale, L.Slim, V.Smith of Clifton, L.Smith of Gilmorehill, B.Soulsby of SwaVham Prior, L.Southwark, Bp.

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StaVord, L.Stallard, L.Steel of Aikwood, L.Stewartby, L.Stodart of Leaston, L.Stoddart of Swindon, L.Strabolgi, L.StraVord, E.Strange, B.Strathcarron, L.Strathclyde, L.Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.Sudeley, L.Swinfen, L.Symons of Vernham Dean, B.Taylor of Warwick, L.Tebbit, L.Temple of Stowe, E.Teviot, L.Teynham, L.Thomas of Gresford, L.Thomas of Gwydir, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1. Lord Lea of Crondall—David Edward Lea Esquire, OBE, having been created Baron Lea ofCrondall, of Crondall in the County of Hampshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in theforenoon of 20th July 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord McCarthy andthe Lord Murray of Epping Forest, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter Kingof Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

2. Lord Elder—Thomas Murray Elder Esquire, having been created Baron Elder, of Kirkcaldy inFife, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 19th July 1999 (see appendix 2), wasintroduced between the Lord Haskel and the Baroness Smith of Gilmorehill, the GentlemanUsher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and made and subscribed thesolemn aYrmation pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

3. Regina v. Forbes (Petitioner)—The petition of Anthony Leroy Forbes praying for leave to appealin accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an AppealCommittee (lodged 20th July).

4. Gardner (Petitioner) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—The petition ofDennis Albert Gardner praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee,such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; thesaid petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 26th May).

5. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 47th Report—Dimond (Petitioner) v. Lovell (Respondent)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

6. Appeal Committee—The 55th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the followingOrders were made—Regina v. Her Majesty’s Coroner for Inner London South District (Respondent) ex parteDouglas-Williams (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs ofthe petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.Regina v. Ghadami (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of thepetitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.Halifax plc (Respondents) v. Ghadami (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.MSC Mediterranean Shipping Company SA (Respondents) v. Owners of the Ship “Tychy”(Petitioners)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 4th August next.Regina v. Antoine (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 4thAugust next.In re Kern (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave to appeal berefused.Gardner (Petitioner) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—That leave toappeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance withdirection 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by theClerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Thomas of Macclesfield, L.Thomas of Swynnerton, L.Thomas of Walliswood, B.Thomson of Monifieth, L.Thornton, B.Thurlow, L.Tomlinson, L.Tope, L.TordoV, L.Torrington, V.Trefgarne, L.Trumpington, B.Turner of Camden, B.Uddin, B.Varley, L.Vinson, L.Vivian, L.Waddington, L.Wade of Chorlton, L.Walker of Doncaster, L.Wallace of Coslany, L.Wallace of Saltaire, L.

Walpole, L.Walton of Detchant, L.Warner, L.Watson of Invergowrie, L.Waverley, V.Weatherill, L.Wedgwood, L.Westbury, L.Whaddon, L.Wharton, B.Whitty, L.Wigoder, L.Wilberforce, L.Wilcox, B.Williams of Crosby, B.Williams of Elvel, L.Williams of Mostyn, L.Williamson of Horton, L.Windlesham, L.Young, B.

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