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Jeff Varasano's Famous New York Pizza Recipe One of the 'Elite 8' Pizzerias in the US by Every Day with Rachael Ray Voted Best Pizza in Atlanta for 2009 by Jezebel Magazine Named one of the 14 Best New Restaurants by Atlanta Magazine Voted Best Neapolitan Pizza by AtlantaCuisine.com Email me at [email protected] Photos of opening night at Varasano's Pizzeria in Atlanta - March 25, 2009 An Early Restaurant Review Atlanta Journal Constitution Front Page Story NY Times Story Listen to me talk about my pizza in a Radio Interview that was broadcast across Canada. July 2008 Pizza Tour In NY, NJ and San Francisco Translated to Portuguese Pizza is the most sensuous of foods. I get emails from around the world and one of the most common goes something like this: "Jeff, I had this one perfect pizza at a corner shop in Brooklyn in 1972 and I've been thinking about it ever since." I love that!. That's passion. Do you know how many forgettable meals have come and gone since then. What kind of pizza leaves a 35 year impression? Let me describe it to you. The crust is slightly charred. It has a crisp outer layer, but inside it's airy and light. The ingredients are not piled high, but instead are perfectly balanced. It's sweet, salty, full flavored but not greasy. The tomatoes burst with flavor. Each bite makes you hungrier for the next. If this is what you want, you've come to the right place. This pizza is modeled after Patsy's on 117th street in NYC. I have been working on this for SIX years, but FINALLY I can report that I have achieved my goal. Many people have tried my pie and swear it is not only the best pizza they've ever had, but a clone of the original Patsy's recipe. This margarita pie is incredibly light and perfectly charred. It took just 2 minutes and 10 seconds to bake at 825F. Ads by Google Pizza Recipe Buy Pizza Oven Sauce a Pizza Pizza New York Style

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  • Jeff Varasano's Famous New York Pizza Recipe One of the 'Elite 8' Pizzerias in the US by Every Day with Rachael Ray

    Voted Best Pizza in Atlanta for 2009 by Jezebel MagazineNamed one of the 14 Best New Restaurants by Atlanta Magazine

    Voted Best Neapolitan Pizza by AtlantaCuisine.com

    Email me at [email protected]

    Photos of opening night at Varasano's Pizzeria in Atlanta - March 25, 2009An Early Restaurant Review

    Atlanta Journal Constitution Front Page StoryNY Times Story

    Listen to me talk about my pizza in a Radio Interview that was broadcast across Canada.July 2008 Pizza Tour In NY, NJ and San Francisco

    Translated to Portuguese

    Pizza is the most sensuous of foods. I get emails from around the world and one of the most common goessomething like this: "Jeff, I had this one perfect pizza at a corner shop in Brooklyn in 1972 and I've beenthinking about it ever since." I love that!. That's passion. Do you know how many forgettable meals havecome and gone since then. What kind of pizza leaves a 35 year impression? Let me describe it to you. Thecrust is slightly charred. It has a crisp outer layer, but inside it's airy and light. The ingredients are not piled

    high, but instead are perfectly balanced. It's sweet, salty, full flavored but not greasy. The tomatoes burstwith flavor. Each bite makes you hungrier for the next. If this is what you want, you've come to the right

    place.

    This pizza is modeled after Patsy's on 117th street in NYC. I have been working on this for SIX years, butFINALLY I can report that I have achieved my goal. Many people have tried my pie and swear it is not

    only the best pizza they've ever had, but a clone of the original Patsy's recipe. This margarita pie isincredibly light and perfectly charred. It took just 2 minutes and 10 seconds to bake at 825F.

    Ads by Google Pizza Recipe Buy Pizza Oven Sauce a Pizza Pizza New York Style

  • Last Updates (color coded so you can see new edits): 10/18/06 (Text changed in Purple)

    11/6/2007 A few new Pizzeria Rankings - Some of the best pizza in NY is also the newest03/13/08 Lots of new Pizzeria Rankings

    04/10/08 - Minor edits to big table of pizzerias6/24/08 Added a Google Map of the world's best pizzerias

    Reproducing this was no easy feat, but since moving to Atlanta what choice did I have? Dominos? It's beena bit of an obsession. I've had a lot of failed experiments. However now I can honestly say that the recipeis fully accurate and reproducible. The final breakthrough came in Jan 2005 when I finally got a handle onthe proper mixing equipment and procedure. But do not think that following this will be easy. It's not. Itwill still take practice. Many others have confirmed that by following these steps they too have come to nearperfection. This may be the most detailed, accurate and complete recipe on the net for making a true PizzaNapoletana. Pizza inspires passion. I've gotten about a thousand emails representing every continent. If you'dlike to contact me, feel free to write at [email protected]. It may take a little time for me to respond, butI try to answer all emails personally. I'm going to start a photo gallery, so if you have some success, sendme a photo and I'll add it for others to see!

    At the bottom of this page, I have a List of the Best Pizzerias in the World which I've also places on thisGoogle Map of The World's Best Pizzas. In addition I've created a second Google Map of Fan Favorites -places that have been recommended by fans of this site. I can't really vouch for these but if your in the areacheck them out and let me know your opinion.

    This dough was hand kneaded and baked in just 1 minute 40 seconds

    Me - Do I look happy or what?

  • Check out this perfect char

    Even blurry pizzas are Tasty!. This pie baked in just 1 minute 40 seconds

  • What's better than a light springy crust with a perfect char

    One of my best tasting pies ever:

  • Check out many more photos at the bottom.

    I am going to add a lot more instructions and photos over the next couple of months, including specifics onhow to culture the dough, so check back here occasionally. I may even do a few seconds of video here andthere.

    Let me start off by saying a few things. First, this is about a certain style of pizza. This site is about the kindof pizza that you can get at the oldest and best places in the U.S. or in Naples. This is not about Chicagostyle or California Style or trying to reproduce Papa John's garlic sauce... This is about making a pie that'sas close to Patsy's or Luzzo's or Pepe's or some of the top Brick Oven places.

    Second, I want to say that there is a LOT of misinformation out there. Take a tour of the World's top pizzaplaces (there's a list at the bottom of this page). None of these places publish their recipes. They don't writebooks. You are not going to see any of these places represented at the "U.S. pizza championship" wherethey compete at dough tossing or who makes the best smoke pork mango pizza.. The real pizza places arenot at some trade show out in Vegas where they hawk automatic sauce dispensers and conveyor belt ovens.But somehow though, all the attendees of these shows declare themselves experts and write books andspread the same false ideas. There are about a hundred books and internet recipes that claim to give anauthentic or secret pizza dough recipe. Oddly, while many claim to be secret or special, they are practicallyall the same. Here it is in summary. If you see this recipe, run screaming:

    Sprinkle a yeast packet into warm water between 105-115 F and put in a teaspoon of sugar tofeed it. Wait for it to foam up or 'proof'. Add all your flour to a Kitchen Aid heavy duty mixer,then add the yeast and salt. Now mix until it pulls away from the side of the bowl. Coat with oiland leave in a warm place until it doubles in bulk, about 1-2 hours. Punch down, spread on apeel with some cornmeal to keep it from sticking and put it on the magical pizza stone that willmake this taste just like Sally's in your 500F oven.

    I assure you, this will not make anything like a real pizza. It's weird - even chefs whose other recipes allcome out pretty good, like Emeril, simply pass around more or less this same terrible recipe.Pizza is a true specialty item and a real art. It takes passion to make it right. I am not a restaurateur. But I dohave a passion for doing this right. I'm not going to give you the 'easy home version'. I'm going to give youthe version that makes the best pie I know how to make, even if it takes a bit more effort (ok, more than justa bit)There are a lot of variables for such a simple food. But these 3 FAR outweigh the others:

    1. High Heat2. Kneading Technique3. The kind of yeast culture or "starter" used along with proper fermentation technique

    All other factors pale in comparison to these 3. I know that people fuss over the brand of flour, the kind ofsauce, etc. I discuss all of these things, but if you don't have the 3 fundamentals above handled, you will belimited.

    1- It's all in the crust. My dough is just water, salt, flour and yeast. I use no dough conditioners, sugars, oils,malts, corn meal, flavorings or anything else. These violate the "Vera Pizza Napoletana" rules and I doubtthat Patsy's or any great brick oven place uses these things. I've only recently begun to measure the actual"baker's percents" of the ingredients. Use this awesome spreadsheet to help you. The sheet allows you totrack your experiments. Here's a basic set of ratios. The truth is that a lot of these recipes look the same andthat you can vary these ingredients by several percentage points and it's not going to make a hugedifference. You really have to learn the technique, which I'm going to explain in as much detail as I can,and then go by feel. Really, I just measure the water and salt and the rest is pretty flexible. The amount of

  • flour is really, "add until it feels right." The amount of Sourdough starter can range from 3% to 20% and notaffect the end product all that much. Weights are in grams. I also show this as both "Baker's Percents" (Thishas flour as 100% by definition and then all the other ingredients as their proportionate weight against ofthe flour) and using the Italian method which actually makes more sense to me, of showing the base as1000 grams of water and all the other ingredients in proportion to that. Both methods are attempts to makethe recipes scalable. Note that the addition of the poolish, which is half water, half flour, actually makes thisa bit wetter, around 65% hydration. Note that this table had an error on it which was corrected on 11/30/06:

    Ingredient 1 Pie 3 Pies 5 Pies Baker's %Grams Per Liter of

    WaterFiltered Water 110.00 330.00 550.00 65.50% 1,000King Arthur Bread flour, or Caputo Pizzeria flour 168.00 510.00 850.00 100.00% 1,527Kosher or Sea Salt 6.00 18.00 30.00 3.50% 55Sourdough yeast culture (as a battery poolish) 15.00 45.00 60.00 9.00% 136Instant Dry yeast - Optional 0.50 1.50 2.50 0.25% 4.50Total 299.50

    If you use Caputo or any 00 flour, you may find that it takes a lot more flour for the given amount of water.Probably a baker's % of 60% or so. One reason I like to feel the dough rather than strictly measure thepercent hydration is that with feel you don't have to worry about the type of flour so much. A Caputo and aBread will feel the same when they are done, even though one might have 60% water and the other 65%.It's the feel that I shoot for, not the number. I vary wetness based on my heat - higher the oven temp, thewetter I want the dough.I've heard it said that NY has the best pizza because of the water. This is a myth. Get over it. It's not thewater. The water is one of a hundred factors. I filter my whole house with a huge 5 stage system, so I usethat. If I didn't have that I'd spring for a $1 bottle of Dasani. That will do it too.

    Salt only the final dough, never your permanent sourdough culture. For that matter, your culture is fed onlywater (filtered or Dasani) and flour. Never add any other kind of yeast, salt, sugar or anything else to yourpermanent culture.

    I use a sourdough culture that I got from what is probably the best pizza in the USA - Patsy's Pizza on 117thstreet in NYC. The place has been there for 80 years. The 'battery poolish' is about 50/50 water and flour.

    Buy the book "Classic Sourdoughs" by Ed Wood from www.sourdo.com to learn how to use a sourdoughstarter. The term sourdough does not necessarily mean that this has a San Francisco Sourdough flavor. Theterm sourdough just means any yeast other than "baker's yeast" which is what comes in the dry or cakeform. There are 1000's of types of yeast. But the commercial products are all the same strain(Saccharomyces cerevisiae) regardless of the brand you buy or whether it's dry or cake form. Commercial or"baker's yeast" gives a fast, predictable rise, but is lacking in flavor. All other yeasts are called sourdough.San Francisco sourdough is one strain. But there are 1000's of others. I doesn't have to taste sour, like SanFrancisco, to be called sourdough. It's just a term. You can "create your own" culture by leaving some flourwater out on the counter. There are lots of kinds of yeast in the air in your kitchen right now and one ofthem will set up shop eventually in your flour water and begin growing. What will it taste like? Well, it'slike setting a trap for an animal and waiting for dinner. It could be a pheasant. It could be a rat. You haveno way of knowing. Do yourself a favor and skip this part and just buy or obtain a known high qualitystarter. www.sourdo.com sells strains from the world's best bakeries. I've seen many bogus things aboutthe use of starters. A classic is that you can start a wild culture by setting out some flour, water and baker'syeast and the baker's yeast will 'attract' other yeasts. This is alchemy. It's like saying I put out dandelionsand they attracted peaches. It makes no sense. Another myth is that you can get the same flavor out ofpackaged yeast as you can out of a sourdough culture if you handle it right. This is also alchemy. Can youget parsley to taste like thyme if you handle it right? These are distinct organism, like spices, that all have adifferent flavor. If you use a starter, and you should, then learn from Ed Wood.

    A sourdough starter actually consists of 2 separate organisms which exist in a symbiotic relationship. Thereis the yeast and the lactobacilli. Here's the cliff notes version of what's happening: All flavor really comesfrom the lactobacilli, all the puff from yeast. The yeast operate well at high temp. The lactobacilli at anytemp. Therefore, to develop highly flavored dough put it in the fridge. The yeast will be mostly dormant,giving time for the lactobacilli to produce flavor. The flavor takes a day or more. So you have to keep theyeast on ice that long. Then you take it out of the fridge and let the yeast take over and produce gas. Theyeast only needs an hour or two to do this part. This can happen very quickly in a warmer. There is no needfor a gradual rise, because at this point the flavor is there. You can smell the alcohol in the dough. The yeastare just adding the bubbles at this point. This technique of refrigeration is called a "cold rise". There arewarm rise methods that work too, but I have not gotten the best results with them after numerous attempts.In Naples they virtually all use a warm rise, so I don't doubt the technique can be made to work well. I mayrevisit this section later.

    The lactobacilli and yeast exist in pairs. Not every flavorful lactobacilli has a competent yeast partner. Youmay find that you've got a culture that has a great flavor, but the puff is not there. No problem. Give it aboost with plain old Baker's yeast, which has little taste but plenty of puff. I use 1/8 teaspoon of instant dryyeast for each batch of 3-5 pies, to give it an extra rise, but 100% of the flavor is from the Patsy's culture.

    Fermentation:

    There are 2 ways to ferment the dough: you can use a 'warm rise' or a 'cold rise'. The warm rise is harder.You simply leave it out at room temp and wait for it to rise. This is hard to control because it could take 10hours or 24 hours. Tiny, tiny variations in room temp and the amount of yeast you started with will make allthe difference. And if it's not risen optimally when you use it, the dough may end up flat and lacking inoven spring. So timing a pizza party this way is hard. By far the easier way to ferment the dough is the coldrise. And the results are just as good if not better. I prefer to age my dough at least 2-3 days in the fridge. I've aged it up to 6 days with good results. However, my culture is very mild. With some cultures 24 hoursis the right amount of time and 2 days would be too much.. You have to get to know your culture. They are

  • all different.. 24 hours is the minimum with a cold rise. There's more on this technique down below.

    2- Flour: There is a lot of emphasis put on using the right type of flour. Personally, I think this focus ismisplaced. Of course, it's important to use high quality ingredients. But improving your dough makingtechnique is much, much more important than hunting down the exact right type of flour. The truth is thatalmost all flours sold are pretty high quality especially compared to what was available 60 years ago whenPatsy Lancieri was making amazing pizza. That alone should tell you something. I currently use eitherusing King Arthur Bread Flour or a blend of this with Caputo Pizzeria flour. I actually think that you canbuy any bread flour available at your local supermarket and you'll be ok.

    Let me give you a quick flour primer. You can do a lot more internet research if you want, but here's thebasics. There are two variables I want to focus on, the Percentage of Protein or 'gluten' and the type of mill.This chart will give you some typical ranges. However, there are no governing standards, so some vendorsmay call their flour High Gluten, for example, even though the product would fit into another category inthis chart:

    Name(s) %Protein Mill Vendors / BrandsCake Flour 7-9 FineItalian 00 8-11.5 VeryFine Caputo, San FeliceAll Purpose(AP) 9-11.5 Standard

    Giusto, King Arthur, Gold Medal, WhiteLily

    Bread 11.5-13 Standard Giusto, King Arthur, Gold Medal, WhiteLilyHi Gluten 13-14.5 Standard Giusto, King Arthur Sir Lancelot, GoldMedal All Trumps

    Lately I've gone back to using King Arthur Bread Flour. I've used AP successfully as well. The kneadingseems to be more critical. Most pizza places in NYC use Hi Gluten Flour and many internet sources insistthat Hi Gluten Flour is necessary to make real NY pizza. This information sent a lot of people off orderingexpensive mail order flours. However, according to pizza guru Evelyn Solomon, the old timers used flour inthe 12% range, which would be a bread flour. This confirmed what my own tests had shown me all along.Bread flour from the supermarket is just fine for making pizza. It has certainly been proven that you don'tneed high gluten flour to make highly structured bread. Ed Wood from sourdo.com makes great artisanbread using AP. In Naples they use 00 flour which has less gluten than AP. I've had great and horrible pieswith all kinds of flours from all kinds of pizzerias. And I've made great and d horrible pies with all kinds offlours myself. Kneading and overall technique is more important than the flour in my opinion.

    Since putting up this site I've been urged to try other flours. I've made pies with at least 20 flours includingthese:

    King Arthur All Purpose (KA AP) - 11.7% Protein

    King Arthur Bread (KA Bread) - 12.7% protein

    King Arthur Sir Lancelot (KASL) aka Hi Gluten - 14.2% Protein

    Gold Medal Bread Flour (formerly labeled Harvest King) - 12.5% protein

    Caputo Pizzeria 00 (11.5%, but also a finer mill)

    Giusto's Artisan Unbleached - 11-11.5% protein

    White Lily Bread Flour - 12.5 % protein

    I can make a nearly identical pie with any of these except for the Italian 00 flour. It's mostly technique. I'mnot saying that the type of flour makes no difference, but I am saying that it's a small difference and I've hadgreat pies from restaurants with varying types of flour. Don't get too hung up on it. One is not 'better' thanthe other, it depends on the style you want. Currently I use a 50/50 blend of Caputo and KA Bread. Caputogives bigger bubbles and a lighter spring. But I prefer to mix it with Bread flour to give it more strength. InNaples, the dough is very soft and hard to hold and often eaten with a knife and fork. NY street pizza iseasily folded and held. They typically use a strong Hi Gluten Flour. My pies are closer to the Neapolitan,but not quite. You can still hold it, but sometimes it flops a bit at the tip.

    The 00 has a finer mill and also it will absorb much less water than the other flours. The 00 flour really isquite different than the others. If you are baking at under 750F, you should really not use 00. It will neverbrown and you'll have much more luck with another flour.

    The ratio of Flour and water can dramatically change the characteristics of the dough. Having said thatthough, I don't measure my "% hydration". I do it strictly by feel. Lately my dough has been much muchwetter than ever before. Wetter dough stretches easier with less pull back. It seems to develop faster in thefridge. And it provides more steam for more puff in the final baked crust. The higher the temperature of theoven, the wetter the dough should be. At super high heats needed to make a pie in 2 minutes or less, youneed a lot of moisture to keep it from burning and sticking to the baking surface.

    3- Kneading - This is one of the most important steps. Follow along carefully. There are 100 recipes on thenet that say you dump all the ingredients together, turn the machine on and you will have a great dough. It'snot true. But once you understand these steps your dough will transform into something smooth andamazing.

    Kitchen Aid Mixer vs. Electrolux DLX mixer:

  • I started a little revolution on PizzaMaking.com when I dumped by Kitchen Aid Mixer and bought anElectrolux DLX mixer. The DLX is a MUCH better machine. However, if you follow ALL the techniqueshere, you can get a good dough out of a Kitchen Aid. The DLX is easier to use. You can make a dozen piesor more in it at a clip, no problem. And you can really just let it do it's work alone. With the KA yousometimes have to stop it and pull the dough off the hook and continue. So I like the DLX. But I knowmany of you have already bought Kitchen Aids. As long as you follow the process carefully, you should beOK. The DLX takes a while to get used to, but now I'm really rocking with it. See Dough.htm for earlyexperiments. Join groups.yahoo.com/group/Mixer-Owners for info on the DLX and how to use it. I use aDLX with the Roller and Scrapper attachments. I will put up photos of this process at some point. Some oneelse has posted a video of a DLX

    The Wet-Kneading Technique with Autolyse

    I call this process Wet-Kneading. It's the key to great dough:

    Autolyse - Autolyse is a fancy word that just means one simple thing. The flour and water should sittogether for at least 20 minutes before kneading begins. It's a CRITICAL step. Some say that youshould mix just the flour and water together, then after 20 minutes add the salt and yeast, then mix.Others say you can add all the ingredients at the beginning. I have found very little difference.

    Pour all the ingredients into the mixer, except just use 75% of the flour for now. So all of thewater, salt, poolish (Video of Poolish), Instant dry Yeast (if used) and 75% of the flour areput into the mixer. Everything should be room temperature or a bit cooler.

    There is no need to dissolve the yeast in warm water or feed it sugar. 'Proofing' the yeast wasprobably required decades ago, but I've never had yeast that didn't activate. The yeast feeds onthe flour so you don't need to put in sugar. The proofing step that you see in many recipes isreally an old wives tale at this point.

    Mix on lowest speed for 1-2 minutes or until completely blended. At this stage you should havea mix that is drier than a batter, but wetter than a dough. Closer to batter probably.

    Cover and Let it rest for 20 minutes. One of the most important things I've found is that theserest periods have a huge impact on the final product. I've seen so much arguing online about theproper flour for making pizza. "You need super high protein flour to get the right structure for apizza dough". People argue endlessly about brands and minor changes in flour blends, types ofwater, etc. A lot of this is myth and a big waste of time. The autolyse period is FAR moreimportant to creating structured gluten development than is the starting protein percentage.Autolyse and knead properly and AP flour will produce a great pizza with a lot of structure. Dothese steps poorly and bread or high gluten flour will not help you at ALL. This step remindsme of mixing pie dough. After you add the water to pie dough, it's crumbly. But after sitting for20 minutes, it's a dough. The water takes time to soak in, and when it does it transforms the piedough. It's really a similar thing here with pizza dough

    Wet Kneading

    Start Mixing on Low speed for 8 minutes. 5 minutes into it start adding flour gradually.

    This part is critical and it's something that I did not understand at all until relatively recently:Even if the dough is very sticky - that is it does not have enough flour in it to form a ball and itis still halfway between a batter and a dough - it is still working. This is where MOST of thekneading occurs. The gluten IS working at this point even though it's not a dough yet.

    If you are using a KA, and you lift the hook, the dough should fall off by itself. The hookshould look like its going through the dough, and not pushing the dough around. Itshould be that wet until nearly the end.

    With the DLX you can play with the scrapper and the roller, pressing them together toallow the dough to extrude through the gaps. This really works the dough. The DLXmechanism is totally different than a regular mixer.

    After the first 6-8 minutes increase the speed of the mixer slightly. I never go higher than 1/3 ofthe dial on my mixer. Keep in mind that in the old days they mixed this by hand (Anthony atUna Pizza Napoletana in NYC still does). You should add most of the remaining flour. But youstill want a very wet dough, so don't go crazy.At some point during this process the dough should be getting much firmer and should formmore of a ball. Mix another minute or so a this stage You may find that the dough is stickingto the roller /hook and not really working too much at this point. This is why it's so importantto do most of the mixing at the earlier, wetter stages. Once the dough is at this point, it is done.My recommendation is this: DON'T BE A SLAVE TO RECIPES AND PERCENTAGES. It'sfine to use the spreadsheet or other measures as a guideline, but you have to judge how muchflour goes into the dough by feeling it. Do NOT force more flour into the mix just to reach anumber. If the dough feels good and soft and you still have flour you have not put in, don'tsweat it. Leave it out. In the end you need a wet dough. In fact, even the dough has formedmore of ball, if you let it sit, it should spread out a little and look a little limp. This is what youwant, not a tight ball, but a slack, wet soft dough.

    One of the best ways to see how your dough is doing is to sprinkle a little flour on in and justfeel it. It should feel baby bottom soft. If you don't sprinkle flour it will just feel sticky and notlook smooth. But sprinkle a tiny bit of flour and now its soft and smooth. This is what youwant. This is a much gentler recipe than most and it shows in the final dough.

  • With Hi Gluten flours a commercial mixer and a dry dough, you will find that the dough istough to work and consequently both the machine and the dough will get very hot. Commercialbakers compensate by starting with cool water and by measuring the temperature of the doughas they go. The procedures I'm outlining don't require this. The wet knead technique and thelower protein all but eliminates the friction. You can expect the dough to heat only about 3-4 Fwhile mixing, so it's not an issue.

    Let it rest for 15-20 minutes. If you were to do a window pane test before the rest, you might bedisappointed. Afterwards it will test well:

    Yes, this dough is so thin, you can read right through it. This is what is meant by "windowpaning". You neveractually stretch it this thin when making a pie. But I just want you to see what is achievable. In fact, you can

    make an excellent pie without getting it this well kneaded. But you should know how to do this as part of youroverall repertoire. This dough would never rip or fight with you when being stretched to perfect pizza size.

    This dough was made with King Arthur Bread Flour, not high gluten flour. You can achieve this windowpaningeven with All Purpose flour. Technique and not the starting protein % is the key.

    Much talk on the web says that the dough's extensibility/elasticity will be affected by how long thedough rises and at what temp and the kind of yeast. In my opinion, these are very, very minor factors.The mixing/kneading process and the hydration are 90% of the battle. After the dough has beenkneaded and rested for a few minutes, the deed is done. It's either going to spread well or it isn't. Youcan't fix it that much at this point by adjusting rise times and temps. If you find that your dough is notextensible enough or rips when you stretch it, odds are HIGH that it has not been autolysed longenough, not kneaded well enough and/or it's too dry. If you are using a Kitchen Aid Mixer you maynotice that the ball sticks to the hook and kind of just spins around and doesn't seem to be reallyworking. Mixing an extra 20 minutes seems to do nothing because it's just spinning helplessly on thehook. Ugh. Mix at a wetter more pliable stage and you can fix this problem

    Pour out onto a floured surface and portion into balls with a scrapper. I use a digital scale. The doughat this point should be extremely soft and highly elastic. I use 310g per 13" pie. The more elastic thedough, the less you need.

    I store the dough in individual 5 cup Glad plastic containers as you see below. I wipe them with anoiled paper towel - super thin coating. This will help them come out of the container. But I don't wantany oil in the dough. The rules for "Vera Pizza Napoletana" say no oil. I probably have literally one ortwo drops per ball. Oil the container and not the dough. You only need a drop or two of oil cover awhole container - you can kind of polish it with oil using a paper towel. In contrast, you'd need ateaspoon to oil the dough because you can't spread it so thin. Also the ball would probably need oil onboth sides, which is bad because by oiling the top of the dough (which will end up being the bottomof the pizza), you are going to get oil on your pizza stone which will burn at high temps in anunpleasant way. Since you want to minimize the amount of oil, oil the container. For similar reasons,I don't use zip loc bags. Use a container.

    How wet should the dough be? I think many will be surprised to see just how wet I have my dough.With each of these, you can click the photo to enlarge. I'm showing these because I want you to get asense of how that dough should look and feel. This high level of hydration is not necessarily best forlow temperature ovens. But if you are cooking at 800F, like Patsy's, this is what you want:

    This dough has rested for 20 minutes in my DLX mixer. You can see how wet it is. This is

  • enough for 6 balls of dough.

    It almost pours out (with a little push from a spatula). But you can see how easily it stretchesand how wet it still is. I don't know the %hydration of this dough but it is 65% or higher, I'm

    sure.

    This is the unshaped mass. Next I sprinkle a little bit of flour on it and knead it by hand for30 seconds, just to reshape it.

    In just a few seconds it looks totally different. The outside is drier because it has beensprinkled with flour. Inside it is still very wet and as I cut it with a dough scrapper into balls, I

    have to sprinkle a little more, just to keep it from sticking to my hands.

  • I cut it and put it into these easy to find Glad containers. They cost about $1 each at thesupermarket..

    I've got like 15 of them. They are perfectly sized for individual dough's. I strongly preferthese to plastic bags. They are sealable and that keeps in the moisture. They stack easily inthe fridge, and the dough comes out easily and without deflating the dough in the process. I

    spread the container with a drop or two of olive oil.

    This is how the final ball looks when it goes into the fridge

  • I let them rest another 10 minutes, then put them in the Fridge for 1-6 days. If your dough is very wetit may start out as a nice looking tight ball, but over time in the fridge it looks like it's sinking into adisk. This may appear worrisome. When you see dough sinking there may be several causes. Doughthat is 'slack' - overworked and/or old, will sink like this. But if you've followed these instructions thisis not the reason your dough is sinking. The sinking is caused by the fact that the dough is very wet.Don't worry about it. It's probably going to be very good.

    This is the dough several days later. It's been sitting out warming up for about an hour.Notice that it has not risen that much. It does have more volume - probably about 50% morethan the dough above. But it's also changed shape - it's so wet and soft and when it rises it

    kind of just spreads out. This is what you want. This dough is ready for baking.

    Most recipes say that the dough should double in size. This is WAY too much. In total the doughshould expand by about 50% in volume. It would seem like the more yeast bubbles in the dough, thelighter the pizza will be. This is the intuitive guess. But it's not true. The yeast starts the bubbles, butit's really steam that blows the bubbles up. If the yeast creates bubbles that are too big, they becomeweak and simply pop when the steam comes resulting in a flat dense, less springy crust. Think ofblowing a bubble with bubble gum. How tight is a 2 inch bubble? It depends: As you start with asmall bubble and blow it up to 2 inches it's strong and tight. But at 4 inches it's reached it's peak.. Nowif it shrinks back to 2 inches, it'll be very weak. So a 2 inch bubble is strong on the way up and weakon the way down. You want bubbles on the way up. If the dough is risen high, the bubbles are bigand the dough will have a weaker structure and will collapse when heat creates steam. The lightestcrust will come from a wet dough (wet = a lot of steam), with a modest amount of rise (bubblesformed, but small and strong). Some people start with a warm rise for 6 hours or so, and then movethe dough to the fridge. I'm not a huge fan of this method. Once the bubbles are formed, I don't wantthe dough to get cold and have the bubbles shrink. This weakens their structure. What you want is asteady slow rise, with no reversals. Always expanding, just very, very slowly.

    My oven takes about 80 minutes to heat up. The dough finishes rising in about the same time. So Itake the dough out and start the oven at the same time. 80 minutes might seem like a fast rise, but thereal development is done in the fridge. Here is where experience will make a difference - I look atmy dough a few hours before bake time and I make an assessment. If the dough has not risen much inthe fridge I will take it out earlier than 80 minutes. If it's risen too much, I leave it in the fridge till afew minutes before bake. It really takes a good eye. You can make a last minute adjustment to speedit up by warming it. Before I turn my bottom oven on the cleaning cycle, I warm up my top oven toabout 95F. If I think I need to speed up the dough, I can then place it in the 95F environment for whilebefore baking. It's a little harder to make an adjustment the other way. If I find that it's rising too fastand my oven won't be ready for an hour, I'm kind of out of luck. I could chill it, but it's going toweaken if I do that. So I try to err on the side where I still have some control.

    The softer the dough, the faster the rise. It's simply easier for small amounts of carbon dioxide to pushup on a softer dough. If the dough falls a little after rising, you've waited too long and you will findit's past it's prime. Ideally you should use it well before it's at it's peak. This takes experience. You arebetter off working with a dough that is under risen, than over risen.

    Over risen dough (don't do this).

  • When you spread the dough, you will find that it's not great for spinning over your head. It wouldhave been really great at this when you first did the windowpane test. But now that it has risen it's softlike butter and just stretches easily. Don't worry about the spin. If you want to impress everyone withspin, make a drier dough with a hi gluten flour and more salt and let it age for just a few hours andyou can spin all you want.

    Never use a rolling pin or knead the dough or man handle it. You are just popping the bubbles andwill have a flat dough.Build a little rim for yourself with your fingers,. then spread the dough. Can you see how smooth thisdough looks?

    Spread the dough on the counter and then move to the peel. Marble is the perfect surface forspreading dough. One goal is to use very little bench flour, especially if you are cooking over 800F.At high temps, the flour will turn bitter, so you are better off shaping on the counter, then moving tothe peel, which will result in less bench flour. With a very wet dough this takes some practice. Youdon't necessarily have to use a lot of bench flour, but it does have to be even. You don't want thedough sticking to the peel, of course. I put flour in a bowl and dunk the dough lightly, getting all sidesincluding the edge, then move it to the granite counter. I put just a tiny amount on the peel, which Ispread evenly with my hands. When I move from the counter to the peel, most of the flour on thedough shakes off.. Once on the peel, shake it every once in a while to make sure the dough is notstuck. Always shake it just before placing it in the oven, otherwise you may find that it's stuck to thepeel and falling off unevenly onto the stone. At that point you probably can't recover well and you'llmake a mess. So always shake just beforehand. When I make the pie, I work quickly, so as not to letthe moisture in the dough come out through the tiny dry flour coating. Then, and this is important, Ishake the peel prior to putting it in the oven, just to make certain it's loose. In fact, you can shake it atany time during the process. If you are taking too long to put on the toppings or there is some delay,shake again. Make sure it never sticks. Don't resort to using too much flour or any cornmeal orsemolina. It just takes practice to use very little flour, yet still keep it from sticking.

  • If you've made the dough correctly you should be able to spread it with no problem. If it is pullingback on you and trying to shrink, you have not mixed it enough. If you've done half the steps above,you should not be experiencing this problem at all though.You can spread the dough a bit at a time. Do it half way, then wait 10-15 seconds, then spread a littlemore, then a little more. Be gentle with it.

    Hand KneadingThis photo is from the same pie as this one. This pie was very interesting for many reasons. Although Ihave a lot of practice handling wet dough, this is the first time I've tried to hand knead in at least 5 years.

    I started in bowl with 75% of the Flour (KA Bread), the salt, water, poolish and a pinch of IDY. I did a 12minute autolyse, 6 minute hand mix with a spoon, adding flour along the way and 15 minute post mix rest.Then I hand kneaded for 1 minute. Did another 5 minute rest (It didn't feel smooth, so I wanted to rest itagain), then another 30 second hand knead, then shape. I'm guessing it was a 65-66% hydration, same as thedough photos above. I know that is very high for a hand kneaded dough and it takes some practice. But itdidn't stick to my hands at all because I've gotten used to how to handle high hydration dough. The trick isto keep the outside dry with just the thinnest coating of flour. Actually, I only keep the side near my handscoated, the other side is wet. Then I pull the dough expanding the dry side and close it in towards the wetside. This is repeated over and over. As the dry side stretches, it gets a little wetter, then your just dip in inflour again and continue. This baked for 1:40. The cheese, unfortunately, was Polly-O dry mozz as I wasdesperate.

    4- The Oven: I've got my oven cranked up to over 800 F. Use this section with caution: i.e. no lawyersplease. I'm just telling you here what I did. I'm not telling you what you should do. You are responsible forwhatever you choose to do. In Naples, Italy they have been cooking pizza at very high temperatures for along time. There are some real physics going on here. The tradition is to cook with a brick oven. I don'thave a brick oven. So this is what I do:

    On most ovens the electronics won't let you go above 500F, about 300 degrees short of what is needed. (Trybaking cookies at 75 instead of 375 and see how it goes). The heat is needed to quickly char the crustbefore it has a chance to dry out and turn into a biscuit. At this temp the pizza takes 2 - 3 min to cook (adiff of only 25F can change the cook time by 50%). It is charred, yet soft. At 500F it takes 20 minutes toget only blond in color and any more time in the oven and it will dry out. I've cook good pizzas at tempsunder 725F, but never a great one. The cabinet of most ovens is obviously designed for serious heatbecause the cleaning cycle will top out at over 975 which is the max reading on my Raytec digital infraredthermometer. The outside of the cabinet doesn't even get up to 85F when the oven is at 800 inside. So Iclipped off the lock using garden shears so I could run it on the cleaning cycle. I pushed a piece ofaluminum foil into the door latch (the door light switch) so that electronics don't think I've broken some ruleby opening the door when it thinks it's locked. Brick ovens are domed shaped. Heat rises. There is moreheat on top than on the bottom. A brick oven with a floor of 800F might have a ceiling of 1200F or more,just a foot above. This is essential. The top of the pizza is wet and not in direct contact with the stone, so itwill cook slower. Therefore, to cook evenly, the top of the oven should be hotter than the stone. To achievethis, I cover the pizza stone top and bottom with loose fitting foil. This keeps it cool as the rest of the ovenheats up. When I take a digital read of the stone, I point it at the foil and it actually reads the heat reflectedfrom the top of the oven. When it hits 850, I take the foil off the top with tongs and then read the stone. It'sabout 700-725. Now I make my pizza. As I prep, the oven will get up to 800Floor, 900+ Top. Perfect forpizza. Different ovens have different heat distributions. I experimented extensively with foil to redistributethe heat. I tried using one layer, multiple layers and I adjusted the amount I used on the top and thebottom. I also played with using the shiny side up or down, etc. Eventually, I worked out a simple systemfor myself. Some have tried to get high heat using a grill. This can produce high heat, but all from thebottom. One could adjust the differential, by playing games with foil. But an oven with heat from above is

  • better.

    The exact temp needed depends on the type of flour and the amount of water. The more protein, the quickerit burns. Hi Gluten flour may burn at these temps. In general, I recommend higher gluten flours for lowertemp ovens. This will yield a more NYC style pie. For a more Neapolitan pie I recommend lower proteinflours and a hotter oven. I use Bread rather than KASL at these high temps. Caputo Pizzeria 00 flour haseven less protein than KA bread. See my report below. Also the drier it is the more it burns. So in general,at high temps you need a very wet dough.

    I make sure that I cover any oven glass loosely with 2 layers of foil because it will shatter if a drop of saucegets on it. With the foil it's fine. I make sure the foil is loose. If it's fitted to the glass, it will transfer heat tooquickly and the glass is still in jeopardy. Another problem is that once the cleaning cycle starts, it justpumps heat into the oven and I can't reduce the temp. If I get a late start (my guests are late or my doughneeds another 30 minutes to rise), I can't just shut off the oven and then start it up again in 15 minutes. OnceI cancel the cleaning cycle, I can't start it up again until the oven cools below 500F (at least on my KitchenAid oven). Therefore I have to wait and cycle back around. It's like an hour ordeal. But I have workedaround these issues and I now have enough experience that I can pretty much control my temperature. I cancool the stone, for example, by placing a metal sheet pan on it for a minute or so. It will absorb atremendous amount of heat very quickly. I never do this with Teflon which releases unseen toxic chemicalsover 600F. I Remove this pan with the peel, rather than with oven mitts to prevent burns. Occasionally Ialso place something in the door jam, like a meat mallet, for a few minutes to let heat out.

    Brick Oven vs. Other Ovens: I have a list of my favorite pizza restaurants at the bottom. All but one ofthese use coal fired brick ovens. But interestingly, the number 1 place uses a regular old gas fired oven thatyou see in any pizza store in NYC. This is Johnny's in Mt. Vernon, NY. Worth a pilgrimage for sure. Theyalso use dry sliced Mozzarella instead of fresh. Go figure. That place is an enigma. They are also verysecretive. I can tell you they definitely use a sourdough culture because I obtained it from pizza placeacross the street (yeasts can take over a neighborhood) but it died out. I'm going to get it again someday.

    Mmmmm. You don't need a brick oven to perfectly char a pizza. This was done in anelectric.

    Patsy's is #2 on my list. It used to be #1 but my last 3 trips to were disappointing. There is a new guyworking the oven and the pies are coming out like dry crispy flatbreads. It was NOT good. And I saw areview in a magazine that had a photo of a Patsy's pie and that one also looked dry and crispy and thearticle even described it that way. Yuck!. The reviewer at SliceNY.com also mentioned that he mightdowngrade Patsy's if they slip any more . So this means that Johnny's, which used to be tied with Patsy's,now sits alone at the top of my list. I've got it as Johnny's, Patsy's, Sally's, Luzzo's, Una Pizza Napoletana,me, then Sac's. Frankly, if they don't shoot the new cook, Patsy's could drop from my top 5 because rightnow it's resting on it's laurels. Lombardi's is just OK in my book. Nods for history, but too thick andgummy. Grimaldi's and John's are not in my top 10 either. But the original Totonno's is up theresomewhere.

    Back to the Brick oven thing. I once bought a Patsy's dough and rushed it home to my oven in Atlanta andbaked it. The dough itself was incredible. It was the most windowpaning, blistering and elastic dough I'veever seen, by a wide margin. Very impressive. But when I baked it, it was just ok. It tasted a little flat. Ithad less of a charred flavor even though it had a charred color. It actually tasted exactly like my own piestasted at that time. By that was a long time ago. My own latest pies have overcome a lot of this. I'm aging

  • my dough longer than Patsy's and I think that is making up for some of the difference. My opinion is that thecoal and the fire adds about 10-20% but the rest is the heat distribution. If you can get that right in aregular oven, you are going to be thrilled with the results. Johnny's proves this beyond a shadow of adoubt. My latest pies are nearly perfect too. Some of these pies look & tasted just like a Patsy's pie, I'mnot sure you could tell the difference. And believe me, I notice small differences or I wouldn't have comethis far. These latest pies are really, really close. The photos above, as well as those below are goodexamples. I can't get advantages of the brick oven, but I make up for it by aging the dough longer and thisimparts extra flavor.

    Of course, if you do have access to brick oven, especially one that uses coal, by all means use it. ButLEARN to use it. I've seen too many brick oven places that make terrible pizza. Why? Because they thinkthat having the oven is all they need to do. You still have to have everything else right. And I've even seenbrick ovens where the heat is not right. I just saw a place with a Brick oven that had it set to 395F. Such atotal waste of time. The oven does not work by magically transmitting brick flavor into the dough. It worksby generating more heat than a regular oven. At least that's 90% of it. Yes there is a dryness to the woodburning and a smokiness and these are advantages of a brick oven. But mostly it's the super high heat that isimportant. Go the extra mile and get yourself the right digital thermometer and work the oven correctly.This will take a lot of practice. Check out Frankie G's cool brick oven and video.

    My first Brick Oven Experience: I just tried a friend's brick oven. We had a lot of trouble holding the tempright and most of the pies were cooked at 500-600F. So I'm not done experimenting yet. But I can say this:a 7 minute pie in a brick oven does taste better than a 7 min pie in an electric. So there definitely issomething good going on in that oven. It has to do with the dryness of the bake. I will post more on this as Imake progress.

    Dec 2006: I've now made 5 Brick oven batches. I'll fill in more detail later, but here's a photo of a 57 secondpie. It looks pretty cool, but it was by no means my favorite pie:

    5- I use a Raytec digital thermometer. I notice that every spot in my oven is a different temperature. I'velearned what's going on inside. These brands are much cheaper than the Raytec. I haven't used them, butthey look fine to me and are much cheaper, under $60:

    http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/esiest65.htmlhttp://store.yahoo.com/bradystools/teingun4to93.html

    6- Dry mozzarella cheese: This step is totally optional and I don't do this anymore. Early on I was havingproblems with my mozzarella cheese breaking down due to the high heat. I was also having problems withthe sauce sogging up the dough. So I used dry boars head mozzarella, sliced on a machine under the sauce.This protected the dough. But I've since improved both my sauce and wet mozzarella management so I don'tuse dry cheese anymore. However, I should note that the only pie that I've tasted that might actually bebetter than Patsy's is Johnny's in Mt. Vernon. They use only dry sliced cheese. I'm not sure of the brand, butit is fantastic. Patsy's does not use this step, nor is it true Neapolitan.

    7- Lay fresh basil right on the dry cheese or sauce. It's important that the leaves get a bit wet or they'll just

  • burn. Just tap the tops with the bottom of the sauce spoon to moisten. Basil is great fresh out of an herbgarden. I will post more on this someday. Don't wash your basil. It just kills it.

    You can put the basil on before the pie bakes or after

    8 - Sauce: For years I was so focused on the dough that I let the sauce lapse. I just didn't do much with it.But now I feel that my dough is consistently great, I have focused more on the sauce and it has reallytransformed into something wonderful. The key step is something I call 'Tomato Rinsing".

    But first let's start with the tomatoes themselves. There is a lot of talk about buying tomatoes grown in theSan Marzano Valley which has rich volcanic soil. Others claim the region is now polluted. I don't know.All I know is what I taste. I've not been too impressed with San Marzanos I've tried. These are in roughorder with the best at the top.

    http://www.latorrente.it/StrianeseNutrilia (very hard to find but really good)

    NinaRega

    Sclafani San Marzano (DOP Certified)

    VantiaPom RossoTuttorosso

    Cento San Marzano (DOP Certified)

    Muir GlenCento Italian (I used to have these ranked much higher, but they've fallen off)San Marzano Brand (grown in California, the liars)

    Pomi (in the paper box)

    Red Pack

    LaBella San Marzano 'Brand' (not really grown in San Marzano valley either - more liars)

    Bella Rosa whole peeled tomatoes from http://www.escalon.net,

    Georgia Gold Red (local to me)

    and many cheaper brands.

    I have not this one, but Marco vouches for them, so they might be excellent. I don't think they areeasy to find though.

  • http://www.lafiammante.it/tomatoes.htmOthers praise these, but I have not tried them:

    StanislausI know that Patsy's buys from Sassone in the Bronx (where I grew up). But I haven't tried acase yet. They may be repackaging any number of brands.

    Everyone vouches for Escalon, but I dislike them. The Escalon are round tomatoes, whereas most of theItalian brands are Plum tomatoes, which I strongly prefer. I also prefer the plain Cento Italian over the Cento DOP Certified San Marzano.

    Here are my Prep tips:Always buy Whole Peeled Plum Tomatoes and crush them yourself.

    Be careful of marketing tricks like cans that say Italian 'Style' instead of Italian. Italian Style meansnothing. It's subjective. If I grew tomatoes in Chernobyl I could still claim they are Italian Style.

    Similarly there's a San Marzano 'Brand' which is grown in CA. I hate marketing gimmicks like that.The put the word 'brand' so small that you can barely read it.

    Shake every can as you buy it. If it sounds watery, it is likely to be more bitter. Try to get cans whichsound more viscous. The sound will vary a bit by season. They try to pick and pack in just oneseason, but still there are seasonal differences even within the same brand.

    If you have a local tomato supplier, try those too.

    One time I bought a jar of tomatoes at a farmers market - no can. These were hand packed and theyhad no tin can taste. They were excellent but all the major suppliers use cans. Be on the lookout forjars someday...

    If you want to go crazy and make your own, try 'ugly ripe' heirloom tomatoes. The taste of these areamazing and I use these when I need whole tomatoes.

    When I open a can I taste it. Every can is a little different. About 10% of the cans I just throw outbecause they are too bitter and I put too much effort in the dough to waste it on a $2 can of badtomatoes.

    DON'T make a sauce. That is, don't pre-cook the tomatoes. The tomatoes will cook on the pizza. Ifyou cook a sauce first, it will cook again on the psizza, turning it brown and yucky. No need to makea sauce. Look at how overcooked many sauces are. The best places don't do this. This is actually theone step in this whole process that you can save yourself some time.

    I strain the seeds. This is really optional. If you do choose to do it, follow these steps, which seemobvious now, but took me a long time to flesh out:

    Pour the can out into a bowl

    Cut the green/yellow stem ends off the tomatoes with your hands or a paring knife, thendiscard.

    Squeeze out the seeds into the puree and then Dip the tomato into the puree. You can even cutthe tomato open to get out any remaining seeds, by essentially rinsing them with the puree. This will have all the seeds fall into the puree.

    Put the flesh back in the can

    At the end of this process you have a can of flesh and a bowl of watery puree and seeds. Strainthis, pouring the puree back into the can. In the strainer are then 90% of the seeds, all bythemselves. Discard the seeds.

    Now crush the tomatoes. This is one of those areas where I made a recent change for the better andit's really helped a lot. I used to crush the tomatoes by hand. But it was always a bit chunky. Now Iblend them with an immersion mixer ("boat motor"). I cannot tell you exactly why this has made ahuge improvement in the TASTE of the tomatoes, but it has. I've done side by side taste tests. Thetomatoes should be crushed but not pur ed. Go Easy. I have nothing against using a food processor ormill, but I will say that you should not crush by hand.

    Tomato Rinsing: All cans have some bitterness. You need some bitterness and you don't want to stripall of it out. But if the can is too bitter it's not good. I have a procedure I call tomato rinsing to removesome of the bitterness. But you have to taste the can and determine for yourself if it needs it. Thebetter brands on my list don't. Here's the Tomato Rinsing procedure: Strain the tomatoes in a finemesh strainer.. If the mesh is fine, the water will be mostly clear with very little tomato escaping. Ifthe water escaping is very red, pour it back on top of the tomatoes and continue straining. Eventuallythe water will run almost completely clear. Here's the key. The water that comes out is completelybitter. Taste it. What I do is pour fresh water on top of the strained tomatoes and strain them again.Taste this second batch of water. It's also bitter but less so. You are removing bitterness and acidwithout losing a drop of red tomato. Instead you are replacing this bitter water with fresh water. Youcan repeat this several times if you like, but once or twice is usually fine. The net result is that what isleft over, which is all the red tomato solids, is sooooo sweet and yummy.

  • Here are some other things you can do to remove the bitterness. But don't go crazy adding tons ofspices and things. It's mostly just tomatoes.

    Add some grated Romano cheese directly into the tomatoes. I use Locatelli Romano. Somehave criticized this, but I like it.

    A bit of sugar will also help 1/4 - 1 teaspoon. Taste and see.

    A pinch of salt

    A pinch of dried oregano, crushed by hand to release the oils

    If you are used to putting garlic in your sauce, try these steps once without it.

    Taste and taste

    So you are removing and then adding back water. In the end though you should have less water thanyou started with. The total weight is probably about 1/3 less than you started with. But the exactamount of water you remove depends on the overall temperature of the oven and the temperaturedifferential in the oven.. There is not much time in a hot oven to evaporate the sauce, so the hotter theoven, the drier the sauce must be going in. But if the top differential is high, the sauce will evaporatetoo quickly and needs to start wetter. You have to test. Surprisingly, if the sauce is too dry, it's not assweet. You don't want it soupy but don't overstrain either. This will take real practice with your oven.Sometimes after the first pie I add more water to my sauce. Again, this is another area where recentimprovements have really transformed the sauce. I think that when the sauce is chunky (hand crushed)it's harder to get the amount of water right.

    Here's the strainer and Immersion mixer I use:

    Also, while straining, you are letting the crushed tomatoes sit uncovered and this really helps the tincan taste to dissipate. Prep the tomatoes when you make the dough. Even though you are not addingtoo much to your sauce, the tomatoes do better when the flavors settle in for a day and also the tin cantaste dissipates. So prep a day or more in advance. Again, this is another recent change that hashelped a lot.

    Refrigerate the tomatoes if you are not using them, but let them come to room temp when put on thepie. If the sauce is cold, the top of the dough is much colder than then bottom and you can end upwith a thin layer of dough near the sauce that is gummier and less cooked than the rest of the dough.When you spread the sauce on the pie, put a little less in the center because the liquid tends to poolthere.

    If you are using a very hot oven like I am, don't go too close to the edge. Too much sauce near theedge will keep the cornice from developing well. In most of the photos below I put the sauce tooclose to the edge myself. I will be more conscious of this as I go.

    Use about half of the sauce that you think you need. Trust me. Experiment with less and less ingredients onthe pizza and you will see a surprising improvement in overall balance.

    Using Fresh Tomato

    An alternative to canned tomatoes is fresh tomatoes. Even the best cans have a tinny odor, so you'd thinkthat nothing could top fresh tomatoes. But using 100% fresh tomatoes is not necessarily the best thing. Ifyou prepare fresh tomatoes and taste it raw, compared to canned, the fresh will win. But somehow, on thepizza, the canned will win. Partly it's that the fresh tomato taste is simply different than we are all used toand so it never tastes like your favorite pizza place. I've probably not experimented enough to say for sure.As I stated above, I don't recommend cooking your sauce before making a pizza, because the tomatoes willcook again on the pizza. If you think about it, the canning process itself forces the tomatoes to be heatedonce before sealing, then if you cook a sauce, that's heating #2 and then the pie is #3. So I recommendcutting back to 2 times. If you switch to fresh tomatoes though, you are back to just 1 time, on the pie itself.And for a 2 minute pie, that is not very much. So perhaps a solution, if you are using fresh tomatoes, is to

  • cook a sauce. I will experiment a little more and edit this section.

    Another possibility is to blend fresh and canned. This has a lot of potential, I think and I will experimentwith this more also.

    Here's a method for preparing fresh tomatoes:

    Start with great tomatoes. I use "ugly ripe" heirloom tomatoes. These are the best to me. FYI, they arereally amazing raw for a caprese salad (tomato, Mozz, basil, oil, balsamic, salt, pepper). Otherheirlooms are probably good also, as are fresh picked local tomatoes. After that I'd probably go forplum tomatoes. I'm not a huge fan of the vine-ripe brand. They look great, but the taste is so-so.Regular beefsteak tomatoes are really not worth the effort.Blanch them. Blanching is a pretty easy technique. You just put the tomato in boiling water for 30seconds or less, then take it out and put it in ice water for 30 seconds, then you can just peel it byhand. Cored them with a paring knife and pull out most of the seeds by hand.Ground them a bit with an immersion mixerStrained them. They were very, very wet and will lose a lot of weight in water.Added a tiny amount of sea salt and a few fresh basil leaves from the garden and that's about it.Cook them? As I said, this is my next experiment.

    After straining I figure that it would take about 3.5 lbs of tomatoes to equal one 35 oz can. Since UglyRipes are twice the price of any other tomatoes (they are VERY tasty) - $5.99/lb, this makes it over $20 fora small batch about equal to a $1.89 can. But who's counting... 9- Grate some Locatelli Romano and/or parmessian cheese right on top of the tomatoes & basil (do thiswhether you put some romano into the tomatoes or not). But don't over do it. Just a TINY little bit. Butdon't skip this step. It's really key to the sauce. Balance, balance, balance.

    10- Sprinkle kosher or sea salt

    11- Fresh Mozzarella. I live in Atlanta, and getting good cheese is a real problem. It's the weakest link inmy pie right now. In NYC all the mozzarella is packed in water, but it is still firm. Down here in Atlanta, Ican't find great fresh mozz. It's either dry cheese or else water logged. If the cheese is too wet, it will breakdown on the pizza and even disintegrate into ricotta. Ricotta is made by processing the leftover water usedto make mozzarella. If the mozz is not made right, it will actually break down into ricotta before your eyes. Not good. You can see this in some of my photos.

    In Naples they use Bufala Mozzarella which is made from water buffalo instead of cows. The problem withusing Bufala Mozz here in the US is that it's mostly imported and usually not that fresh, especially duringthe summer. If you can find a good supplier, then use it. Also, note that all fresh dairy products sold in theUS are made from pasteurized milk, whereas the European versions are often unpasteurized. If you've everhad butter or cheese in Paris, for example, you know that what we get here is bland in comparison. Soreproducing what you tasted on your trip to Italy is difficult. There are a few American suppliers of BufulaMozz including http://www.starhilldairy.com/prod_mozzarella.shtml which is available at many WholeFoods.

    Put only about 8-10 small pieces of cheese on the pie. Better to have a few dollops than an even mix. Trustme on this one too. If you find, as I did, that the cheese will not hold up to the intense heat and breaksdown, there are few things you can do to keep the cheese from overheating on the pie prematurely:

    Dry the cheese extremely well by wrapping in a paper towel for 1-3 hours. You'd think the wetter it isthe better it would hold up to the heat, but its not so. The water inside boils and degrades the cheese.Sometimes the cheese is so wet I have to change the wrapping several times. This might be avoidedby simply draining for a long long time. I think Marco says he drains for 8 hours.

    Put the cheese on in cubes rather than slices

    Start with cold cheese

    Put a tiny drop of sauce on them which has to boil off first, thus keeping the cheese insulated for a bit.

    Doing all of these may be overkill. You have to experiment with your cheese.Many cheeses packed in water are unsalted. If this is so, put in 1/4 teaspoon of kosher or sea salt in thewater, preferably at least a day before you use it. Don't over salt the cheese, as this may cause some inferiorcheeses to break down somewhat.If you can't find a cheese locally, these are some suppliers that ship fresh mozz.. It's pricey to do it this waythough:

    http://www.mozzny.com/ - Pretty good but not the best NY has to offer. They shipped them in a coldpack box and they came very fresh. If you don't have a local supplier, this is definitely a viable butexpense choice.

    http://www.mozzco.com/ - I've not tried it, but these guys look very serious about their craft. Evenmore expensive than the previous one.

  • Making your own cheese

    Another alternative is to make your own cheese. I'm no expert on this, so I'm going to refer you to otherinternet sources. But I'm going to give a super basic primer.Good sources of info.

    Leeners - I would start here.Cheesemaking.com - this is an easy kit, but missing a few things.Google other recipes. There's a lot to learn.

    Some basics:Milk

    Do not use ultra-pasteurized dairy products. The ultra-pasteurization changes the structure andit won't curdle any more. Unfortunately, some states are allowing companies to remove the term'ultra' and they are passing off ultra-pasteurized as just pasteurized. So be careful.Start with unhomogenized milk. You probably have to go to a farmers market or dairy for this.It should be about $6-$8 per gallon, which makes about 1 pound or a little more of cheese.When an animal is milked, it comes out as cream and skim and the process of homogenizationblends them together. It's like shaking oil and vinegar, but the shake is so fine, it never settlesout again. So an alternative to unhomogenized is to use cream and skim together. But mostcreams have been ultra-pasteurized, so you have to find one that is not.How many water buffalo do you own? Well if you have them, use them, otherwise, find a cow.Water buffalo milk has more fat, so one experiment worth trying is to add more cream to yourcow's milk.

    Acidify the milk. Milk will curdle best at a ph level of about 5.2. From my experience, using a ph testkit or digital ph meter is essential

    Citric Acid - the easy way. You measure the acid and blend it in and presto, it's acidic. But ifyou measure wrong, you are going to be unhappy with it. Note than many measuring spoon setsare not that accurate. 2 of my 1/2 teaspoons don't really equal one of my teaspoons, Idiscovered. There went 3 hours of my life I'll never get back. If you put in too much it willcurdle but never form a ball and be stretchable. I've had the best results (nothing to write homeabout yet), using only 1.25 teaspoons per gallon of milk, which is much less than most recipescall for.

    Use a starter culture, just like you do for the dough. The culture eats the milk and make acid. Ittakes many hours though. Of course, this is the more authentic and flavorful method, but as withall these steps, more work. There are a lot of different cultures that can be used to vary the tasteof cheese. Some recipes even just say start with buttermilk or yogurt. But for Mozzarella, themost authentic type is called Thermophilic, but even this seems to be a category and there areseveral varieties sold under that name. Just like with the yeast, there is a dry instant culture youjust toss in and a wet, keep-feeding-it-forever variety.

    Additives. These are all optional:

    Italian Mild Lipase Powder - an enzyme

    Other flavoring cultures. These are Lactobacilli that produce flavor but no acid. This mirrors thewhole yeast/Lactobacilli combination we talked about with the dough. The yeast andThermophilic organisms are doing the critical jobs of starting bubbles and changing the acidlevel. But the optional Lactobacilli are doing the flavoring.

    Calcium Chloride - helps to restore the balance between calcium and protein in store boughtmilk. It may also be needed with fresh milk. I've only seen this in the Leeners recipe.

    Rennet - Once the milk is acidic and heated to about 88F, you add an enzyme called rennet and itcurdles in just a few minutes

    Vegetable or animal. Rennet originally came from the lining of an animal's stomach, but mostcompanies sell vegetable rennet.

    Tablet or liquid.

    Flaked Salt

    Thermometer. These kits all use a hand held thermometer, but I prefer to use a digital meatthermometer, because you can just dip it over the side and get continuous readings.

    pH Test kit or digital meter.

    Once you've added the rennet, the milk curdles in a few minutes - it separates into chunky curdles andwater whey. They you have to cut it to strain the whey out of the curds and then heat it by eithermicrowaving it or pouring hot water (or whey) on it. I recommend the hot liquid because it gives moreof a continuous heat, rather than the microwave method which has you heat it, then work it, then heatit again, etc.

  • Be careful not to overwork the cheese or take out too much whey. Then you will end up pulling outall the fat and end up with a dry waxy cheese, like a Polly-O consistency. Watch this guy do it. He isstarting with store-bought curd. It's a dark murky video, but worth watching.

    12- More salt

    13- Olive Oil - This is optional. In Naples they will typically put on a good olive oil. Many oils do not standup well to these high temperatures. I had one pie at Una Pizza Napoletana in NYC with a very fruity oilfrom Calabria that was outstanding, even at the high temps. But I don't have the brand. The one's I've tried Ican't recommend.

    14- Assembly - From the time the sauce hits the dough, the dough is starting to water log. Water loggeddough will not rise. This is actually an area that I still need to work on myself. Look at this picture from lastnight. The rise on the crust is outstanding. but under the sauce the dough has not risen well. In fact it's a bitgummy. The reason is that after I sauced the dough, I took a long time to get it into the oven. Once thesauce touches the dough, the pie should go into the oven seconds later. Have your ingredients laid out sothat you can sauce the dough, throw on the other ingredients and get it into the oven immediately.

    15- Into the oven for 2-3 minutes. There is a lot of talk about time and temp. Really, time is a bettermeasure than temp. Ovens vary in temp from spot to spot and even 2 stones that have the same surface tempmay have a different depth to that heat and that will really play out and affect the time. Ultimately, time is abetter measure. There is a lot of debate online about how long it takes to bake a "true" Neapolitan pie. Itstarted off as 2 minutes, then it went to 90 seconds, then 60, then 45 and recently 30 seconds. Some of thisis a "boys and their toys" thing. Instead of arguing about horsepower people are arguing about oven temp. Chill out. It is true that in Naples, the pies cook very, very fast, usually in under 90 seconds. If your goal isa true reproduction of the Neapolitan style, then you may want to aim for this. But that is not the only styleof tasty pizza. A pie that's cooked in 30 seconds is not necessarily better than one cooked in 150. The fasterit cooks the less crispy and more airy it is. But this is only good to a point. Some dough that are cookedsuper fast have a burnt bitter outside and are raw inside. It takes a lot of practice to get it all right. Believeme, a 2-3 minute pie is going to be great if you follow these steps. My best pies were 2:10 - 2:30. Maybe itwill get even better as I go down in time, but I'm skeptical of the 30 second pies. Patsy's makes a GREATpie in about 4 minutes. Sally's, makes a great pie in 7. I've timed pies at Luzzo's in NYC at 1:55 and at UnaPizza Napoletana at 2:10. These are all notch places with great pies and crust. There's no question that a hotoven is important - you are not going to get a light airy crust with 10 minute pie. But once you are sub-5minutes, you are easily in the range to make a great tasting pie, provided your dough formulation is correct.

    If you are having problems with your pie burning on the bottom in a very hot oven, increase the hydrationof the dough. Wetter dough burns less. But also, you may have to adjust the balance of temperature (top vs.bottom) in your oven using aluminum foil. See the section above regarding the oven.

    16- Remove from oven with a peel. When a pie cooks at these high temps, you may find that it is soggierthan you are used to. In Naples, the pies are pretty wet and you cut them with a knife and fork and eat themon a plate. There are a few things you can do to lessen the moisture. Use less sauce and drain it well. Butalso, I put my pies on a rack when they come out so that any steam that is coming out of the bottom canescape. Just a 2-3 minutes on the screen then onto the metal round where they are cut. Don't cut tooquickly. The flavors need to settle and they will be more distinct with a cooler pie. If you don't have arack, you may find it helpful to transfer the pizza back and forth between the peel and the metal round, toallow the steam to escape from the bottom of the pie. Make sure you dry off the metal round between piesso that moisture doesn t build.

    With High temp pies, there is the possibility of it being a little soggy in the middle especiallyif you are using a lower protein flour, such as a 00 flour. Brick ovens are very good at

    sucking moisture out of the dough very quickly. The environment is very, very dry. Onedownside of an electric, even one at 800F, is that the moisture tends to pool. One easy

  • solution is to remove the pie from the oven and place it on a perforated metal round such asthis one. I place this on my stovetop so that the bottom is exposed, allowing moisture toevaporate for about a minute. Then I move to a regular serving round. I've seen several

    'modern' brick ovens that are gas fired. Burning gas creates moisture and ruins much of theeffect of the brick oven. Brick ovens should burn wood or coal.

    17 -Season with oregano, red pepper flakes, black pepper and maybe a drop of olive oil (depending on howwet it already is).

    18- Cut and serve

    Good luck, but be prepared for a lot of trial and error.

    This is a pretty good idea of what you will see if your oven is hot enough

    Except for a minor malfunction of the fresh mozz, this is a pretty awesome pie. The new

    cheese instructions given above have since solved this problem. You can see that the drycheese underneath bubbled and charred a bit. It was good, but I don't use dry cheese

    anymore. I will cut some cross sections next time to you can see how light the crust isinside. This pie used hand crushed tomatoes which I think are too chunky.

  • The spring back on the crust is excellent. The holes are big and the crust is light and soft.

    But this crust was too thin in the middle. Each pie is a learning experience. This pie had nodry cheese, just fresh mozz

  • Springs right back after squeezing. Notice that the tomatoes were crushed by hand and are

    chunky. I recommend blending them with an immersion mixer or food processor instead.

    More perfect charring

  • This pie was awesome. Overall it's probably the best I've ever made. The dough was in thefridge for 6 days. When I took the dough out of the sealed container, it had the aroma of a

    fine wine. I bet it could have gone another few days without a problem. You can see from thecolor that I used fresh mozzarella from 2 different batches. Both were excellent though. The

    cheese breakdown problem has been solved. No dry cheese underneath on this one.

    This pie was made with KA Sir Lancelot (KASL high gluten flour) rather than my normal KABread Flour. The difference was pretty nominal. Flour is important but technique is more

  • critical. The lesson of this pie is that the sauce should be a little thinner in the middle thananywhere else. Can you see it pooling towards the middle. Another lesson of this pie is thatI need a better camera. My Sony CyberShot is small and chic, but takes mediocre close-up

    photos.

    Next KASL from the same batch. This was an excellent pie all around. It was comparable tothe last bread flour batch that rose for 3 days, but not as good as the one that was 6 daysold. That one was amazing. This pie was among the first with machine crushed tomatoes,

    rather than hand crushed. It was a huge improvement.

    This cross section shows the bread structure. See the holes. They are pretty big and the

  • dough is springy.

    These cross sections are pretty good. The crust is well defined and high. While the bubblesare big they are not as pronounced as they could be. The likely cause: this dough over rose

    slightly. The big winner here was the sauce. This was among the first pies with the newsauce technique and it's really an improvement.

    Same pie on the bottom. Perhaps too charred, but good.

  • This pie was a 6 day cold rise Caputo Pizzeria 00 with 56% hydration. Caputo dough seem toabsorb much more flour. I tried a pie with a 3 day cold rise also. I know that everyone is

    raving about the Caputo. Frankly, I hardly noticed the difference. Nothing wrong with it. ButI wouldn't go crazy trying to hunt it down. In the last 4 months, mostly to deal with claims

    on the net, I've tried KA AP, KA Bread, KASL and now Caputo. I'm right back where I startedfrom. Specialty flour is not a huge factor in this process. It's like when you see peoplearguing about the relative merits of 2 different tensions pulls on $1,000 tennis rackets,

    meanwhile they go out and miss the ball by 8 feet. Forget it. Maybe if you are making pies atthe 99.8th percentile and you want to move to the 99.9th, then you should be worrying aboutthis. Otherwise, let it go. Work on the BIG 3 factors: high heat, a good sourdough starter andtechnique (mixing and fermenting). This is where you will move from the 50th percentile to

    the 99th. Then worry about the relative merits of the type of milling or exact mineralbreakdown of sea salt from one bay to the next. As in everything, work on the fundamentals.

    This pie had excellent bubbles and spring. Another dough from the same batch rose 20minutes less and was cooked at 725 (vs. 800 for the pie shown) and was dense with few

    holes. Technique, timing, heat - that's the ball game. Way down the list is the flour.

    March 2006This dough was a 4 day cold rise using a blend of KA Bread, KASL and Caputo. Very wetdough. The big thing here was that I used my Kitchen Aid mixer instead of my DLX. While

    the DLX is far the superior machine, I now have a lot more experience with technique usinga wet-knead. The result: the dough was just as good in the KA as it was with the DLX. TheDLX is capable of mixing much larger batches and is easier to use, but for 4 pies or less,

  • and with the wet-knead technique, I can now say that the KA dough is just as good.

    Both pies were exactly a 2:30 at just over 800F. I've learned that the higher the hydration, thebetter it stands up to high heat. Dry dough will burn at high heat, but wet dough chars

    nicely. The cornice is not as well defined as it could have been, but the crust was super softand tasty. These pies were as close to Patsy's as I've come. These were among my very

    best. They were amazing. The flavor, the texture, the sauce were incredible. But they werenot quite as 'Neapolitan' as some are striving for. These were more NY.

    Comparing Cheeses. Obtaining fresh Bufala Mozzarella can be difficult. The first pie is withBufala Mozzarella but it's not as fresh as I'd have liked. The second is with cows milk. Youcan see that they melt differently. These pies were a blend of Caputo and KA Bread, baked

    at 840F for exactly 2 minutes each.

  • The charring on both pies was excellent.

    This is one of my first attempts at making my own Mozzarella Cheese. It's justunhomogenized milk, citric acid, rennet and salt. Actually this pie had homemade dough,

    cheese and sauce. The sauce was from peeling ugly ripe tomatoes and reducing them. Youcan see the cheese burned a little bit. But it tasted pretty good. I have a long ways to go in

    the cheese making department...

  • If you use too much bench flour at these high temps you will find that the residual flour is

    bitter. But if you use too little you may find it hard to get the pie off the peel, especially sinceI am using a very wet dough. This takes some practice. If you can't slide the pie off the peel,

    you may have a mini disaster. A last resort way to recover is to fold the pie over into acalzone. This rustic looking calzone was the result of a trainee who forgot to flour the boardat all. But no one complained. It was very tasty. The small amount of sauce on top will keep

    the top from burning as it puffs up closer to the heating element. I learned this trick fromLuzzo's in NYC. If the ingredients inside the calzone are relatively dry (such as ricotta, mozz& ham), then the calzone is best if sealed. If the ingredients are wet, such as with this folded

    over tomato sauce, mozz pizza, then you may want to pop a small hole in the top to allowthe steam to escape. Otherwise you may find the result in water logged inside.

    This calzone was more planned. It's one of my favorite combinations: Rosemary, sun-dried

    tomatoes, fresh chopped tomatoes, mozz and pepperoni.

  • This is mostly for show - My current dough recipe doesn't really spin that well

  • I Think this one had mushrooms on it. I'm going to post a section soon with other toppings,

    like my clam pie and my onion pie. But margarita pie is still the classic by which pies arejudged

    This pie was made with regular old White Lily flour you can find in any supermarket. It didbehave and feel a little different - it had a heavier, gummier feel when kneading. But onceyou have experience you can compensate for these things. My guests did not notice the

  • difference and said it tasted the same as the King Arthur.

    The bubbles and spring were comparable to the King Arthur, but not as much as the Caputo

    A classic Marinara Pie - Garlic Oregano, parmesan and olive oil, also using White Lily Flour

  • The quality of the ingredients is very important. I have scoured the lands, trying every brandof flour, tomato and cheese I could find. I've had cheese flown in, paying $75 for enough

    cheese for just one round of pies, I've even made my own cheese from scratch, starting withjust milk. I've tasted every brand of tomato I could find and peeled and blanched my ownfrom local tomato growers. And theses things do make a difference. But there's just no

    getting around the simple truth of 'the big three' - High heat, good natural yeast, and mixingtechnique. Getting these right will cover a lot of sins and getting these wrong will screw up

    the best ingredients. Witness the crust on this pie made with cheap old White Lily flour.

    This pie is Caramelized Onions with Emmenthaler Cheese. This combo goes well with freshThyme

  • This pie was very interesting. I made a fresh dough and then took an old dough that had satin my fridge for about 10 days, and blended them together. This tends to make a very sour -sourdough. Not in a bad way, just very well developed and rich. Typically, if you do this, thedough will not have the lightest structure, but will be a little flatter and chewier. Again, notnecessarily bad, but different. Still, some of my guests said this was one of my best ever. Also, I cut the cheese in cubes instead of slices and you can see the effect. It's similar to

    what Luzzo's did in the very next photo. Finally, this pie had a LOT of extra virgin olive oil onit. I often put none, but after trying Una Pizza Napoletana's pie, I gave it a try with a lot of oil.I think if I try this again I will go much lower on the sauce to compensate. This pie was also

    a little lower temp. Probably around a 3:00 or 3:15 pie.

    This is my Sicilian Pizza, based on my grandmother's style that she made when I was a kid,except with a well fermented sourdough crust. I wish you could have tasted this one. Wow,

    it was tasty. I made this with a sourdough culture given to me by a fan of this site.

  • This pie is from Luzzo's on 1st Ave and 12th Street in NYC. Great place. I timed this at 1:55.The taste of the crust was virtually identical to mine. Notice how the cheese was put on in

    cubes and allowed to melt.

    This pie is from Una Pizza Napoletana, just a block from Luzzo's in NYC. Another greatplace. I timed this at 2:10. The taste of the crust was also very similar to mine, but more

    mild, less sourdough. It's texture was definitely softer than mine. Anthony used all caputoflour, but also uses other 00 flours at times. This pie uses fresh Bufala Mozzarella which

    was very wet. You can see how it kind of melts and puddles in the middle. This is not whatmost are used to, but very common in Naples. The really obvious thing about this pie wasthat it had very little sauce and a lot of fruity olive oil which held up very well despite theheat. He said it was from Calabria but had no brand since it was provided by a friend who

    grows there. I prefer more sauce, but the olive taste was very very nice too.

  • This pie is from Da Michelle, which is considered one of the best in Naples. The is theauthentic target.

    This is Trianon in Naples, which is also one of the best

  • Denino's - the best pizza on Staten Island. This is a similar style to Modern in New Haven.Wow. Tasty

    Joe & Pat's on Staten Island. This is a similar style to Johnny's. Thin but much crispier crustthan a Neapolitan

  • Pizzeria Bianco in Phoenix

    With Ed Levine, guest judge of Iron Chef America and author of the great pizza book, "ASlice of Heaven".

    Also, the gracious host of this website :-). Isabella's Oven is new, but a solid contender.

    Calzone at Pizzeria Salvo in Naples

  • Me with Antimo Caputo at his factory and lab in Naples

    Antica Pizzeria Brandi in Naples. This pizzeria claims to have invented the Margherita Pizzain 1889. The legend is that Princess Margherita was visiting Naples and the Pizzaiolo made 3

    pizzas in her honor. For one he decided to match the red, white and green colors of theItalian flag, but using tomato sauce, mozzarella cheese and basil. And Viola, the modern

    pizza was born...

  • Pizzeria Brandi

    This is me with Evelyne Slomon, pizza historian and judge at the U.S. Pizza Championships.She's perhaps the only person who's actually interviewed the old school NY pizza masters,

    such as Jerry Pero of Totonno's and knows all their secrets!

  • Evelyne took me to Chez Panisse, the famous restaurant owned by Alice Waters, creator of'California Cuisine'

    Me with flour miller extraordinaire, Keith Giusto

  • Cook's Organic Flour

    Learning tricks at the San Francisco Baking Institute

  • A16 in San Francisco makes a classic Neapolitan Pie

    Johnny's Pizza in Mount Vernon, NY. Boy, I'd kill for a slice of this right now... One of thebest there is - Probably my all time favorite!

  • Sally's Apizza in New Haven, CT. Aside from NYC, New Haven is probably the best pizzatown in the U.S. There are at least 10 pizzerias there that are better than every pizzeria in my

    home of Atlanta. New Haven sports many styles of pizza, all good, but this is thequintessential "New Haven Style". No other town I've been in makes this kind of pizza. Thepie below is half Marinara and half cheese. My photo of Modern Apizza, a few miles away,

    didn't come out that good. But Modern is even better than Sally's in my opinion.

    Franny's in Brooklyn. An amazing pizza.

  • Styles of PizzaTo be added...

    The World's Best PizzeriasSliceNY has comprehensive listings, photos and reviews of hundreds of restaurants. In this article, I'mprimarily interested in highlighting the very best places. Many of the best places are the ones that havestood the test of time. These are the 'old school pizzerias