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    ISO9001:2008

    The changes-The obvious ..and

    not so obvious

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    Intent of changes in 2008

    To bring the standard closer to Award models

    To bring more focus to processes (especially

    outsourced processes) and to monitoring of

    processes. To make internal audits more effective and

    auditors more accountable.

    To make customer satisfaction data moreobjective and data based.

    To closely link analysis to the implementation.

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    The direction of the change

    EmergingMind set of

    TC176

    Mind set ofcustomers and

    consultants

    Mind set ofCertification

    bodies

    ISO 19011

    2008 version

    TS specification

    2000 version

    1987 version

    1994 version

    Quality definedas Excellence

    Quality defined asPerformance

    Quality definedas Conformance

    Conflict No Conflict

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    Changes in standard

    1. Introduction (0.1) The design and implementation of a QMS is influenced

    by the environment and the risks associated with that

    environment. (QMS is now related to external factors)

    QMS of a company

    Manufacturing

    cars

    Supplier capability

    Statutory

    require

    ments

    Ch

    eapm

    anpower

    Collaborator knowhow

    2000 Version ofstandard

    2008 Version

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    2. Process Approach (0.2)

    2000 version staqndard says IDENTIFY theprocesses meaning LIST THEM.

    WHY should we list A B C and not E ? No answer

    B

    C

    A

    D

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    2. Process Approach (0.2)

    2000 version standard says IDENTIFY theprocesses meaning LIST THEM.

    WHY should we list A B C and not E ? No answer

    B

    C

    A

    D

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    2. Process Approach (0.2)

    Now, Organisation needs to determine those processeswhich are producing desired outcome. (Derive theprocesses from outcomes)

    B

    C

    A

    D

    Customer

    Satisfaction/

    Reliability/

    Delivery time/

    Defects/

    Productivity

    Present

    standard says to

    determine

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    Interpretation of an expert

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    3. Scope includes otherintended

    Outputs in the processes(1.1) Scope of QMS should include product delivered to

    customer and also any intended product from the

    product realisation processes.

    QMS

    Products delivered

    to

    customer

    productProject PlansTest plans

    Test cases

    Tools

    Intended

    Outputs

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    3. Scope includes otherintended

    Outputs in the processes(1.1) This means clause no 7.3, 7.4,7.5,7.6. and 8.2.1,8.2.3

    8.2.4 and 8.3are applicable for intended outputs..

    QMS

    Products delivered

    to

    customer

    productProject PlansTest plans

    Test cases

    Tools

    Intended

    Outputs

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    4. Outsourced processes (4.1)

    Which are the processes which areoutsourced and which are needed byQMS? (Responsibility lies with the

    company) Control of the process by considering -

    What is the potential impact of the processeson the product requirements?

    What are the controls and are they shared?

    Existing control through Purchasing

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    TC 176 Interpretation No

    exclusion on outsourced process

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    Purchasing and outsourcing

    Purchasing is buyinga product

    Specification is given

    for the product. Inspection at the entrypossible.

    Multiple vendors

    possible. Rejection/Rework

    easy

    Outsourcing is buyinga capability.

    Specification is for a

    complete service. Inspection difficult.

    Multiple vendors not

    possible. Rejection/Rework

    difficult

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    5. Processes for measurement ,

    analysis and improvement (4.1) Processes in QMS include

    Processes for management activities Processes for provision of resources Processes for Product realisation

    And now Processes for Measurement, analysis and

    improvement.

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    6. Control of records (4.2.4)

    Records should be controlled.

    We need to Identify the originator

    We need to have a list of people to whom the

    records are distributed.

    We need to have a date when it was sent.

    We need to have a check on unauthorised

    corrections/copying of records or recordsgetting lost.

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    7.Everyone affects product (6.2.1)

    Conformity to product requirements can be

    affected indirectly by anyone performing any

    task within the QMS.

    Every one within the QMS needs to have Responsibility to carryout any task assigned.

    Competence to carryout the task.

    Communication to know the customer requirements.

    PersonProcess Outcomes

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    8. Training should end in

    achievement of competence (6.2.2)

    Provide training or other actions to

    achieve the necessary competence.

    Training plan should be triggered by needed

    level of competence.

    Training effectiveness should be indicated not

    by feedback of participant but by an exit

    test/project to demonstrate the level ofcompetence.

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    9. Work environment (6.4)

    - clarity on conditions

    The standard

    requires the

    organisation to

    monitorenvironmental

    conditions like

    noise, lighting,

    temperature,humidity etc

    38 deg

    80 db

    200 lux

    Temp

    Dust level

    Noise

    Lighting

    Foundry

    shop

    70 db

    200 lux

    35 deg

    Sound

    Lighting

    Temp

    Forge shop

    28 - 36deg

    250 lux

    Temp

    Air Quality

    LightingHumidity

    Painting

    RequirementEnvironmental

    condition to be

    montiored

    Area

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    11 Design re ie erification and

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    11. Design review, verification and

    validation are distinctly

    differentiated (7.3.1)

    While planning design and development

    activities, reviews and verifications duringthe design phase and the validation of the

    product are to be kept in mind as distinct.

    If combined, there needs to be a validreason for it.

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    13. Validation of processes (7.5.2)

    We need to validate ANY process where

    the resulting output of a process cannot be

    verified AND AS A CONSEQUENCE THE

    DEFICIENCIES WILL BECOMEAPPARENT AFTER DELIVERY.

    This means that we need to monitor field

    failures and work back to determine whichoutput was not verified and hence which

    process needs validation/revalidation.

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    15.Preservation in order to maintain

    conformity (7.5.5)

    Conformity to requirements obviously is

    required to be demonstrated at customers

    place and hence the objective of

    preservation is to maintain conformity tillcustomer starts experiencing the product.

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    16.Test Software (7.6)

    Configuration management and

    verification is required for any software

    used for testing of the product. (or any

    intended product other than that which isdelivered to customer)

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    17. Customer satisfaction backed

    up by data (8.2.1)

    The standard balances perception with

    data and relies on warranty failures, dealer

    feedback, product quality data, user

    surveys, lost business analysis etc.

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    19.Non conforming product (8.3)

    Dealing with non conforming product now

    includes the analysis of potential effects of

    non conformity after the use has started.

    FMEA for every non conformity not corrected

    /correctable could be a requirement.

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    20. Analysis is linked to other

    clauses (8.4)

    Analysis of

    Customer satisfaction linked to 8.2.1

    conformity to product requirements linked to

    8.2.4

    processes and products linked to 8.2.3 and

    8.2.4

    suppliers linked to 7.4

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