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EXPERIMENTAM FOUNDATIoNt9SI PAMELA BROWN INTERVIEWS DAVID KERR, DIRECTOR. Howlonghave you been involved with the EAF? Looking through the 1975 EAF Review, I saw photos of myself as part of the voluntary construction crew building this space - a small part, driving a few nails, installing a few panels. I had enrolled at the Art School and was thirsty for a visual education after counfless years of literal and rationalist education. The Art School didn't have much to offer after the first year and I moved consistently closer to the EAF. In 1978 I joined the EAF Council for a two year term. At the same time I had begun working publicly as an artist. And the Council is the decision-making structure within the EAF? The Council consists of seven people, demo- cratically elected from the membership for two year terms. The majority of Council members are practising artists and that is balanced with two or three members from other areas. At present there is Bill Morrow, a lawyer interested in art and the law, Ailsa Maxwell, a lecturer in visual art theory, Rob Thurwell, an art student, Peter Hicks a community arts officer and poet, and Jude Adams, Cath Cherry and Jim Cowley as practising artists. We meet monthly to initiate projects, discuss proposals for the program and decide on policy matters. I{hat aims or guidelines does the EAF work with? The EAF has consistently been involved with art as experimental action that puts up models of possible ways of understanding or perceiving the world. This is coupled with an interrogative approach to accepted societal values and attitudes. The speculations and theory of Donald Brook, a prime mover in establishing the EAF, were used as guidelines in this approach. What about the developments of the EAF? Whnt tvne of work went on ovcr those venrn? books on art theory to be produced. ln 1979 we received money from the Visual Arts Board to begin an artist in residence program and part of that money was used to employ Alan Murn as artist/printer in residence, making the printery a viable concern. The artist in residence program also provided for five people from interstate to spend six to eight weeks at the EAF, working through a specific investigation. People who have taken part in this program are Jeff Stewart, Dale Franks, Bonita Ely, Jenny Barber, Toni Robertson, Terry Reid, Geoff Buchan and Eva Yuen Man-Wah. I gather that there is some kind of transition in the EAF at present. I am wondering whether this is because of you taking over as director, with Noel Sheridan taking up the directorship of Dublin Art College, or because of Lindsay Parkhill going to Praxis in Perth, or whether it is a response to general shifts in the current art climate? The EAF has always been a product of what people put into it, and it has changed its appearance as many times as priorities and energies have changed. If there is an issue surfacing amongst artists, or an apparent need, it will find its way into the Foundation's activity, either through general members or through the director as a liaison person. There is a transition or change which the EAF is undergoing, there always has been and has to be;but it is not a change in method so much as a change in emphasis because of new people. There will always be new people. What of the creation of ttre position of Community Artworker at the EAF? That's another fresh input. Jude Adams' appointment has meant another set of exper- iences and another injcction of energy. The nonition of (lorrurrunilv Artwrlrker hue nlso That projects an important role for artists in the future. It's important that the open-ended investiga- tions, the experimental modelling, continue to occur if our culture is to evolve. And it's important that such pursuits are aired for appraisal. The role of the EAF is to facilitate this. The information centre, printery, seminar space and gallery are there to facilitate it. So it seems the EAF is concerned with changing outmoded notions like'avant-garde' art. We are not essentially involved in avant-garde pursuits. Avant-garde art belongs to conven- tional notions of art. It is exploratory but within ayery tight structure. Aesthetics are essential to its practise. To open ended experi- mentation, to modelling possible new under- standings or ways of perceiving art in a life context, aesthetics are only incidental - it is part of the presentation after analysis or part of the crafted artworks byproducts that spin off along the way. I think it is wasted energy trying to put some punch back into the term 'avant-garde' - better that it dies. As I said earlier, if art is to remain viable it has to leap outside the con- ventions and see its role in an inter-relationship with other societal institutions. Well, what's been happening at the EAF in recent months and what is coming in the rest of 1981? Our recent program has included the provision of a venue for the national Artworkers Union Conference;the AGDC travelling show, 'Art in the Mail'; Lorraine Hepburn's oDissolve'as experiences in perception; performance by Wendy Teakel and David Jensz;performances from the Art School; Bonita Ely as artist in residence; Geoff Buchan from the Broome Arts Group as artist in residence and an exhib- ition of the developments of the Broome Arts Group; the 'Lovely Motherhood Show', which is now touring (see Art Network classifieds); the publishing of 'EAF Performance Week, March 1980', Jenny Barber's 'Womens Move- ment: South Australia'and a revised edition of Donald Brook's 'The Social Role of Art'. Our next project is a series of workshops in documentation, the results of which will be used to produce a book on and from the 1981 Come Out Festival. We will also be publishing Bonita Ely's'Murray/Murundi', Marr Grourtds' 'Oxiclc Strcct' uncl tlro report ol'tlrc l9tl0

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  • EXPERIMENTAMFOUNDATIoNt9SIPAMELA BROWN INTERVIEWSDAVID KERR, DIRECTOR.

    Howlonghave you been involved with the EAF?Looking through the 1975 EAF Review, I sawphotos of myself as part of the voluntaryconstruction crew building this space

    -

    a smallpart, driving a few nails, installing a few panels.I had enrolled at the Art School and was thirstyfor a visual education after counfless years ofliteral and rationalist education. The ArtSchool didn't have much to offer after the firstyear and I moved consistently closer to theEAF. In 1978 I joined the EAF Council for atwo year term. At the same time I had begunworking publicly as an artist.And the Council is the decision-making structurewithin the EAF?The Council consists of seven people, demo-cratically elected from the membership for twoyear terms. The majority of Council membersare practising artists and that is balanced withtwo or three members from other areas. Atpresent there is Bill Morrow, a lawyer interestedin art and the law, Ailsa Maxwell, a lecturer invisual art theory, Rob Thurwell, an art student,Peter Hicks a community arts officer and poet,and Jude Adams, Cath Cherry and Jim Cowleyas practising artists. We meet monthly toinitiate projects, discuss proposals for theprogram and decide on policy matters.I{hat aims or guidelines does the EAF workwith?The EAF has consistently been involved with artas experimental action that puts up models ofpossible ways of understanding or perceivingthe world. This is coupled with an interrogativeapproach to accepted societal values andattitudes. The speculations and theory ofDonald Brook, a prime mover in establishing theEAF, were used as guidelines in this approach.What about the developments of the EAF?Whnt tvne of work went on ovcr those venrn?

    books on art theory to be produced. ln 1979we received money from the Visual Arts Boardto begin an artist in residence program and partof that money was used to employ Alan Murnas artist/printer in residence, making theprintery a viable concern. The artist in residenceprogram also provided for five people frominterstate to spend six to eight weeks at theEAF, working through a specific investigation.People who have taken part in this program areJeff Stewart, Dale Franks, Bonita Ely, JennyBarber, Toni Robertson, Terry Reid, GeoffBuchan and Eva Yuen Man-Wah.

    I gather that there is some kind of transition inthe EAF at present. I am wondering whetherthis is because of you taking over as director,with Noel Sheridan taking up the directorshipof Dublin Art College, or because of LindsayParkhill going to Praxis in Perth, or whether itis a response to general shifts in the currentart climate?The EAF has always been a product of whatpeople put into it, and it has changed itsappearance as many times as priorities andenergies have changed. If there is an issuesurfacing amongst artists, or an apparent need,it will find its way into the Foundation'sactivity, either through general members orthrough the director as a liaison person. Thereis a transition or change which the EAF isundergoing, there always has been and has tobe;but it is not a change in method so muchas a change in emphasis because of new people.There will always be new people.What of the creation of ttre position ofCommunity Artworker at the EAF?That's another fresh input. Jude Adams'appointment has meant another set of exper-iences and another injcction of energy. Thenonition of (lorrurrunilv Artwrlrker hue nlso

    That projects an important role for artists inthe future.It's important that the open-ended investiga-tions, the experimental modelling, continue tooccur if our culture is to evolve. And it'simportant that such pursuits are aired forappraisal. The role of the EAF is to facilitatethis. The information centre, printery, seminarspace and gallery are there to facilitate it.So it seems the EAF is concerned with changingoutmoded notions like'avant-garde' art.We are not essentially involved in avant-gardepursuits. Avant-garde art belongs to conven-tional notions of art. It is exploratory butwithin ayery tight structure. Aesthetics areessential to its practise. To open ended experi-mentation, to modelling possible new under-standings or ways of perceiving art in a lifecontext, aesthetics are only incidental

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    it ispart of the presentation after analysis or partof the crafted artworks byproducts that spinoff along the way.

    I think it is wasted energy trying to putsome punch back into the term 'avant-garde'

    -

    better that it dies. As I said earlier, if art is toremain viable it has to leap outside the con-ventions and see its role in an inter-relationshipwith other societal institutions.Well, what's been happening at the EAF inrecent months and what is coming in therest of 1981?Our recent program has included the provisionof a venue for the national Artworkers UnionConference;the AGDC travelling show, 'Artin the Mail'; Lorraine Hepburn's oDissolve'asexperiences in perception; performance byWendy Teakel and David Jensz;performancesfrom the Art School; Bonita Ely as artist inresidence; Geoff Buchan from the BroomeArts Group as artist in residence and an exhib-ition of the developments of the Broome ArtsGroup; the 'Lovely Motherhood Show', whichis now touring (see Art Network classifieds);the publishing of 'EAF Performance Week,March 1980', Jenny Barber's 'Womens Move-ment: South Australia'and a revised editionof Donald Brook's 'The Social Role of Art'.

    Our next project is a series of workshopsin documentation, the results of which will beused to produce a book on and from the 1981Come Out Festival. We will also be publishingBonita Ely's'Murray/Murundi', Marr Grourtds''Oxiclc Strcct' uncl tlro report ol'tlrc l9tl0

  • What about the developments of the EAF?What type of work went on over those years?How has it evolved?The initial spaces provided agallery lperformancevenue as an alternative to commercial galleryspace, and an information centre. The inform-ation centre was given an initial boost withbooks andmagazines from Noel Sherridan'scollection and this was supplemented bypurchases of publications recommended bymembers or bought by people travelling inter-state and overseas, and by making contact withany groups related to our activities. The gallery/performance space has been used by groupsfrom within or in conjunction with theEAF, by individuals wishing to present theirwork for criticism/feedback, for AGDC travel-ling shows, for talks/discussions by visitingartists and theorists, for performance programs,seminars, sttldy groups, films and music. To thisspace we added a printery to handle EAFpublications at a production cost which allowedsmall editions of good quality artists books and44

    4PPUlIrtlrrgllL ltalD lllvarrL alltuLrfiit DriL ur irfLPEr'iences and another injection of energy. Theposition of Community Artworker has alsomeant an expansion of our activity. Jude'stime has initially been taken up with coordin-ating the 'Lovely Motherhood Show' but in thelonger term it will be to facilitate discussionsamongst community arts officers, communityartists and artists generally, that criticallyanalyse developments in practice and theoryin this area. I've had feedback from membersfearing that the EAF is changing its emphasistoo much towards community arts. This is amisunderstanding of the dynamics involved orof the social responsibilities of art. To theextent that other community art programseducate non-artists in the development of artskills, and to the extent that these skills arethought of as well as craft technique, theconventional notions of art begrn to be sub-verted. Art becomes demystified, languagedevelops to link it with other societalinstitutions. For example education, architec-ture, town planning and welfare.

    Bonita Ely's 'Murray/Murundi', Marr Grounds''Oxide Street'and the report of the 1980National Artworkers Union Conf0rence.

    In May/June the AGDC travelling show,'Australian Artists Videotapes'will form thebasis of a review of video as an art medium. InJuly we will show the 'futists Against UraniumExhibition'. Bill Furlong, editor of Audio ArtsMagazine, will be touring Australia in Augustand basing himself at the EAF. Discussionseminars will be held on the theory and practisewithin community arts programs, photographytheory, and a study group in semiotics. AndToni Robertson will be artist in residence untilmid-June.

    These are some of the events coming up, it isby no means a complete list. The EAF has toremain flexible so that it is responsive todevelopments that arise. We announce theprogram, as it emerges, through our monthlynewsletter to members.The Experimental Art Foundation169 Payneham Road St Peters Adelaide 5069 tr