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Instrumented Molding Cell - Part 1) Interpretation - Part 2) Optimization Priamus Users’ Meeting October 5 th , 2005 David Kazmer

Instrumented Molding Cell - Part 1) Interpretation - Part 2) Optimization Priamus Users’ Meeting October 5 th, 2005 David Kazmer

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Page 1: Instrumented Molding Cell - Part 1) Interpretation - Part 2) Optimization Priamus Users’ Meeting October 5 th, 2005 David Kazmer

Instrumented Molding Cell- Part 1) Interpretation- Part 2) Optimization

Priamus Users’ MeetingOctober 5th, 2005

David Kazmer

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Motivation

Optimize molding processesFaster set-upFaster cycle timesHigher quality & fewer rejects

Automatic quality assurance100% fully automatic cyclesHuge labor savings

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Frequently Asked Questions How do I interpret a cavity pressure trace? How do I interpret a cavity temperature trace? Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow? Can temperature sensors detect changes in melt

temperature? Can these sensors detect an underfill condition? Can these sensors detect underpack condition? Can these sensors detect an overfill or overpack

condition? How should we setup our molding machine (w.r.t

ram velocity, transfer, etc.)? If only one sensor is used, what/where should it be? What does the future look like?

Part 1

Part 2

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Introduction tothe Instrumented

Molding Cell

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Test Cell 50 ton Electra

injection molding machine

Instrumented mold 2 temperature

sensorsat end of flow

4 pressure transducersnear gates

Priamus eDAQ data acquisition system

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Close-up of Instrumented Mold

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Close-up of Instrumented Mold

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Close-up of eDAQ

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Sensor LocationsTemperature Sensors: Temperature 1 – Tensile Test Bar, End of Fill Temperature 2 – Flexural Test Bar, End of Fill

Pressure Sensors: Pressure 5 – Flexural Test Bar, Near Gate Pressure 6 – Primary/Secondary Runner Intersection Pressure 7 – Rectangular Stepped Plaque, Near

Gate Pressure 8 – Tensile Test Bar, Near Gate

Also adding:•Ram position transducer

•Nozzle pressure transducer•Digital input for switchover

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Part with Sensor Locations

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Process Data – Full CycleFilling Packing Cooling

Gate freeze-off

Mold closed

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Part 1) Interpretation of an Instrumented

Molding Cell

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How do I interpret a cavity pressure trace? Filling

Packing

4R

LQP

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LQPP flowupdown

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How do I interpret a cavity temperature trace?

Heat Transfer

Q high during filling k low during packing

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dT

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Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow? Pressure sensors may detect possible

short shot if: Cavity pressures

are low at ‘fill’ Cavity pressures

decay quicklyat end of pack

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Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow? Temperature sensors will indicate short

shot if: Melt doesn’t reach

transducer Impact specimen

was short

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Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow? Pressure transducer signal to noise ratio

Ramp rate: 5000 psi/s Variation: 19 psi Signal level: 100 psi S/N ratio: ~5:1 Response time: 0.02 s

With noise

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Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow? Temperature sensor signal to noise ratio

Ramp rate: 465 C/s Variation: 0.024 C Signal level: 0.2 C S/N ratio: 8.33 Response time: .001 s

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Can temperature sensors detect changes in melt temperature ? Heat Transfer

Fast injection meanshigh Q & low dt

Slow injection meanslow Q & high dt

Max temperature isvery meaningfulS/N=625!

Qdx

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MaximumAfter Fill

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Peak cavity pressure indicates over-fill

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Can pressure sensors detect an overfill condition?

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Not really, peak temp indicates melt temp

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Hypothesis: Slope is indicative of rate of heat transfer, and possible thickness/flashing?

?

Can temperature sensors detect an overfill condition?

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Can pressure sensors detect over or under packing? Usually indicated by pressure at end of pack

Traces for tensile& impact specimensdecay prior to end ofpack

Gate is frozen offTrace for stepped

part follows sprue Gate not frozen off

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Not usually Heat Transfer

Q,k≠f(P)

In this extreme case, parts shrinkfrom wall so low Q

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FAQ Answers How do I interpret a cavity pressure trace?

Carefully, confounding of temperature, gate freeze, full cavity How do I interpret a cavity temperature trace?

Readily Which is better for detecting melt at end of flow?

Temperature, higher signal to noise ratio & response time Can temperature sensors detect changes in melt temperature?

Yes, by looking at the peak temperature sensed This result is not 1:1, more modeling being done…

Can these sensors detect an underfill condition? Temperature: definitely, by no increase in local mold temperature Pressure: sometimes, by looking at slopes after switchover

Can these sensors detect an underpack condition? Temperature: not usually, sometimes in extreme cases Pressure: usually, by looking at cavity pressure decay

Can these sensors detect an overfill or overpack condition? Pressure: usually, by looking at peak cavity pressure Temperature: not easily, but maybe

Part 1

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Part 2) Optimization of an Instrumented

Molding Process

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How should we setup our molding machine? Scientific molding is:

Necessary but not sufficient We can and need to do better

Integrated product, mold, and process design Developing mold designs that are fit for purpose, and Relating quality requirements to control strategies

Formal procedures for instrumentation & setup

Lights out is only achieved in small minorityof vertical applications of captive molders!

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If only one sensor is used, what/where should it be? One sensor is not sufficient

Lack of observability Recommend:

Screw positionNozzle/hydraulic pressureCavity pressure sensor near gateTemperature sensor at end of fill

Together, a single control strategy may be able to satisfy many molding applicationsFamily molds & multi-gated/cavity molds?

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Setup of molding machine1. Short shot study at constant ram velocity

Find required shot size

2. Start with single stage, no packing Adjust VP transfer point for melt to reach key junction Optimize one velocity step, similar to “scientific molding” Add additional stages for each juncture (position vs. velocity)

3. Find required pack pressure to satisfy tolerances, using long pack times

4. Find the minimum packing time for gate freeze-off5. Perform a packing pressure vs. cooling time study to find minimum

cooling time6. Adjust mold/melt temperatures to verify long term stability

Collect parts & identify process fingerprints

7. Implement centered molding process, relying on human validation until process fingerprints & QA system are validated

8. Implement fully automatic quality assurance

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1. Short shot study at constant ram velocity Find required shot size

90 mm plastication20 mm switchover point10 mm cushion

Cushion could be reduced, but shot size is OK

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2. 1st Stage Optimization Adjust VP transfer point for melt to reach

key junction2 mm stroke

All pressures about the sameSmall lengthLarge diameter

50 mm/sec selected

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2. 2nd Stage Optimization Adjust VP transfer point for melt to reach

next key junction2 mm first stageNext 28 mm stroke

Optimize velocity12 mm/sec25 mm/sec50 mm/sec100 mm/sec

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Optimization Criterion:Integral of pressure (energy) Pressure varies with velocity

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50 mm/sec is best.

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2. 3rd Stage Optimization Adjust VP transfer point for melt to reach

next key junction2 mm first stageNext 28 mm stroke

Optimize velocity12 mm/sec25 mm/sec50 mm/sec100 mm/sec

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Optimization Criterion:Integral of pressure (energy) Pressure varies with velocity

100 mm/sec is best.

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Setup of molding machine1. Short shot study at constant ram velocity

Find required shot size

2. Start with single stage, no packing Adjust VP transfer point for melt to reach key junction Optimize one velocity step, similar to “scientific molding” Add additional stages for each juncture (position vs. velocity)

3. Find required pack pressure to satisfy tolerances, using long pack times

4. Find the minimum packing time for gate freeze-off5. Perform a packing pressure vs. cooling time study to find minimum

cooling time6. Adjust mold/melt temperatures to verify long term stability

Collect parts & identify process fingerprints

7. Implement centered molding process, relying on human validation until process fingerprints & QA system are validated

8. Implement fully automatic quality assuranceFurther development warranted & on-going.

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What does the future look like? Technology trends

Better, smaller, and cheaper sensorsHigher precision and faster data acquisitionCheaper & faster computers/storage

Application trendsMore applications will use sensors & DAQAutomated control will improve, providing

More capability & lower barrier to entry

Outsourcing will plateau, limited by Capability, infrastructure, shipping & other costs

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Acknowledgements

We wish to thank Priamus System Technologies for their generous support and excellent capabilities