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(rN\ MARCH 1986

March 6, 1986

Social HourPanel DiscussionDinner

Questions andAnswers

Camelot Restaurant

) MEETING

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.1100 South Grand Ave.(at McFadden)Santa Ana, CA

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INQUIRIES:

MEAL COST:^

Derek McGregor(714) 833-0070

Jack Eagen(714) 779-2591

$15.00 Members16.00 Guests7.00 Students

PROGRAM: Competitive BiddingThreat toto Our Profession?

RESERVATIONS: By Card OnlyMail by February 28, 1986

or Wave of the Future?Panel Discussion involvinga City Manager, Architect,Developer and Engineer

A MESSAGE FROM OUR PRESIDENT

Mr. Jim Williams with the County of Orange, Environmental Management

Agency, during presentation of the Engineer of Merit Award at the

well attended February meeting (157 Members!), commented on the

public's perception of professionals in general and engineers in

particular. This must be due to the high ethical standards- to which

we all adhere 'durir.g the performance of our engineering assignments.

Within the framework of the engineering profession and the inter-

related industries such as developers, bankers, owners, architects,

governmental agencies and contractors, the fabric of ethical practice

is periodically strained. Avoiding tarnishing the standards we hold dear,

oftentimes requires re-interpretation of our position as engineers

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A Message From Our President, Cont.

and professionals. The pressure of deadlines and competitive proposals

or bidding is continually lending to de-emphasizing creative engineering

design and places an increased burden on the 'I want another one,

just like the other one' philosophy.

Is the reality of competitive proposals with us to stay? Is it another

example of the benefits of the free enterprise system? or another step

towards Engineering Technicians instead of true Engineers? These and

many other questions which effect us and our clients daily may remain

unanswered, but they must be considered as our profession continues

to evolve, meeting the needs of the high technology, fast-moving society

in which we live, work and play.

The great attendance at the February meeting honoring Jim Williams,

Joe Devlin and the Rancho San Clemente project was an excellent example

of the emphasis we place on engineering achievement. Join us in March

to examine the problems facing us as we strive to emulate the

accomplishments we recognized in February.

-Steve Marvin-

EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES:

BSI CONSULTANTS, INC. has full time positions for: CIVIL ENGINEERS

Openings available in our San Diego, Santa Ana and-Long Beach offices. Registration required, minimum5-years experience. Work with public agencies andcomputer experience desirable. Send resume to:

BSI Consultants, Inc., 16880 West Bernardo DriveSan Diego, CA 92127Attention: Nancy Ritchie

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FUTURE FIELD TRIPS

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If you have any ideas on possible future Branch field trips,please contact Steve Mayville, Chairperson of the ContinuingEducation Committee at (714) 558-1952

-KETHICS SEMINAR III

"Competitive Bidding - Thrsat to our Profession?Wave of the Future?"

This year we have directed our attention to a mostcontroversial subject. Should professional engineering servicesbe selected on price alone? Are other professional services,such as legal, medical, dental and architectural, selected inthis manner? How do you ensure competitiveness among so-called"Bidders" on a project so that all are quoting on apples and notoranges? Are we to assume that all engineers have equalcapabilities and therefore price is the only difference. Theseare some of the questions that will be addressed and hopefullyanswered at this seminar.

'"The format wirT^"B%^ slroilSr'to tI-Rlt" used", in •&he past.

Attitude adjustment-5:30 p.m.;, panel discussion-6:00; dinner-7:00; and questions and answers-8:00 to 9:00. Questions will bewritten and collected during the dinner hour and given to thepanel members.

The panel will consist of a city manager, an architect, adeveloper, and a civil engineer. The moderator will be ourillustrious Branch President, Steve Marvin.

Members are encouraged to bring friends and guests who areprofessionals, but outside of the engineering fraternity. Theymight provide some very interesting questions and comments to theprogram.

We anticipate a large crowd so mail your reservation cardearly. You will help our Treasurer, Dave Prasifka, and speed upregistration if you pay by check at the door.

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LIFELINE EARTHQUAKE ENGINEERING SEMINAR

DATE: Tuesday March 11, 1986

TIME: 2:00 pm - 8:15 pm

LOCATION: Department of Water and Power Auditorium1111 North Hope StreetLos Angeles, CA

SYNOPSIS: This seminar will present an opportunity to

learn about seismic design and retrofitting

of lifeline facilities from the experts. For

additional details see the L. A. Section

Feburary 1986 Newsletter or call Le Val Lund,

Seminar Chairman at (213) 481-6191

or Gussie Hayes at (213) 386-6291

REGISTRATION FOR THE LIFELINE EARTHQUAKE SEMINAR

YES, I plan to attend the lifeline Earthquake Seminar at

the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power on March 11, 1986

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Address

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Enclosed is my personal check for $ 15.00 to cover theregistration fee and "Advisory Notes" .

Please fill our this form and mail it to:

Los Angeles Section ASCE2550 Beverly BoulevardLos Angeles, CA 90057

Attention: Gussie Hayes(213) 386-6291

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