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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOLOGNA PROCESS IN
FRANCE
Prof B. CHARPENTIERHonorary Dean
FACULTY of MEDICINE-UNIVERSITY PARIS SOUTH 11Past President of the French Medical Deans’council
Member of the French Academy of Medicine
THE ANSWER IS NO ! WHY ? A levels # BaccalauréatBologna Process French Medical Training-L1 -PACES-L2 -P2-L3 -D1-M1 -D2-M2 -D3-D1 -D4-D2 -RESIDENCY: 3-5 Y-D3 -M D: 2+4+3/5= 9-11 YDOCTORATE 3+2+3=8 Y - Chef de Clinique: 2-4 Y
TWO PARTICULAR FEATURES OF
THE FRENCH EDUCATIONAL
SYSTEM : (1) Grandes Ecoles vs University: How to select the
Elites ?
CPGE1+1 High Schools Doctorate
X-ENS-Centrale less 40%
A Levels 4 Y 3Y
(Baccalauréat)
-650000 candidates University (85) L1 L3 ( -60%)
-50% filière G ( S-ES-L/A) M1 M2 ( -30%)
-25% filière T-V D1 D3
-25% filière P-V
-Success rate: 86%
TWO PARTICULAR FEATURES OF THE FRENCH EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM : (2) PACES
PACES(S1/S2– 2 inscriptions )
chemistry biology physics anatomy
social sciences
12000
54000 Students
Medicine 7500
Pharmacy 3595
Dentistry 1200
Midwife 1017
PhysiotherapySpeech therapy
42 000 L1 ?ECTS
FRENCH FACULTY OF MEDICINE
- Derogatory clause within University
- Competitive selection for entrance
-Professionnal School « we teach the job we are doing, we do the job we are teaching… », What’s about the applicated job of Professors of canon law, of sanskrit, of esperanto ?
-French Faculties of Medicine are linked to several teaching hospitals where all faculty members must teach, doing research and clinical/biological patient care.
FRENCH TRAINING TRENDS
- USUAL TRAINING: 3 steps
1) TRAINING 2) GUIDANCE 3)SELECTION
- FRENCH TRAINING: 2 steps
-1) TRAINING 2) SELECTION ( BUSINENESS-
ADMINISTRATION-MEDICINE )
- NO BY-PASS/BRIDGE
- CONCLUSION: eveything is done at 20 y.o. !!!
-
A STRONG EXAMPLE
FOREIGN STUDENTS/MD
-PACES: 8%----less 1% vs 17%
-D1---upon personal file examination
-D4
BY-PASS
- 500 seats- GRANDES ECOLES AFTER CURSUS COMPLETION ( 6 y)
- Ph D ( 8 y )
BASIC SCIENCES
- PACES anatomy
- -P2 physiology….
- -D1 semiology…
CLINICAL TRAINING
-D1: introduction with nursing care + semiology teaching at the bed side
-D2-D4: ½ time to the bed side + on call+teaching pathology/therapeutics
-RESIDENCY ( 3 y GP/ 4-5 Others): full time bed side+ on call+ teaching specialty
-Early contact at the bed side-strong clinical training
ECN ( National Ranking Examination )
7000 D4 1 specialty+location
-39 Faculties of Medicine/7 regions -All Faculties are ranked along with the students ranking-Location 1st choice: big campus ( Paris, Lyon, Marseille…)- GP 50%, second half
2 D. exam
9 clinical cases + questions
+ 2 paper analysis
7000
RESIDENCY
-GP: 3y training course mostly in GP office
-SPECIALTIES: 4-5 y in University Hospitals
-Courses must follow the national teaching program
-Examination: attendance+ thesis
------------------------
MD + specialist in… (+9/+11 y)
-Temporary seniorship: 2+1+1=4 - Job: teaching+researching+care - Located in University Hospitals - DESC validation ( subspecialty ) - Goals: Academic/public activity ( HP to PU-PH ) Private activity
CHEF de CLINIQUE-ASSISTANT
SPECIAL TRAINING FOR MD+PhD
-M2 during residency ( 1y in a research lab)
-Ph D during CCA ( 3y+X in a research lab)
-Post-Doc abroad ( 2-3 y, publish or perish )
-EXAMINATION: Habilitation à diriger des recherches
-National Competitive Examination to a full tenure track position (
PU-PH/MCU-PH):CV+Publications+teaching activity+oral test in front of
2 successive board of examiners (national+local): 38-40 yo !
FRENCH TRAINING COURSES FOR FOREIGN MEDICAL OFFICER
1 – Attestation de formation spécialisée ( AFS )
- Medical officer non UE: agreements of both Universities+french specialty coordinator+open post
- Gaining partial certificates of the specialty
- Duration: 1 or 2 y and back in the country
2 – AFS+A=AFSA
-Specialist qualification in their country:agreements of both Universities+french specialty coordinator+open post
-Gaining highly selective knowledge ( robotics, endovascular manip.
-6 or 12 months
BOLOGNA PROCESS AND FRENCH MEDICAL TRAINING
MOBILITY IN EUROPE
-1) Europe to France-2nd cycle D1-D4 Belgium-Germany-Netherlands-Spain-Switzerland-Italy -2) Europe to France- Residency ( part or full/special examination) Belgium-Germany-Netherlands-Spain-Switzerland-Italy -3) France to Europe-2nd cycle -Few ones ( languages limitation), except Belgium-Switzerland -4) France to Europe-1st cycle: PACES in Romania
BOLOGNA PROCESS AND FRENCH MEDICAL TRAINING
ADVANTAGES
-Master grade level at the end of D4 ( 5vs6 y) ?for « escaping » medicine with a diploma
-ECTS for European mobility ( Socrates, Erasmus…)
-validation of different courses in Europe for medical training
-European Doctoral Schools ( Masters and Doctorates/thesis in co-supervision)
BOLOGNA PROCESS AND FRENCH MEDICAL TRAINING
DRAWBACKS-TIME OF THE CURSUS VERY DIFFERENT ( 8 vs 9-14 y), French cursus too long ?
-FEW GATEWAYS ( Phd----D1)
-Intensive clinical training vs less basic training
-Tight control of the government ( teaching hours, program, numerus clausus, specialties volume, training of foreign students,…)
-weak french mobility in Europe ( the goal is to pass an exam in order to have a job…)
BOLOGNA PROCESS: Last Minute !
« the european higher education space is not a model to be exported, Africa, Asia, Norh/South America have their own specificities and needs »
EUA Lesley Wilson, General Secretary- 16/04/2012, address to the European Higher Education Ministies for the Bucarest meeting (26-27/04/2012)
EUROPEAN DREAMS IN AN O.R. !
The Reasons for my existence have not yet been established…but