ICNDT Activities in the field of NDT Personnel Certification

Dr Mike FarleyChairman ICNDT

Director, Doosan Power Systems, UK

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What is ICNDT?

• ICNDT is an international not-for-profit organisati on registered in Vienna

• Members are the national NDT Societies – around 50 i n total• Members elect a Chairman and Executive Committee to manage

affairs and a Policy and General Purposes Committee to advise on strategy

• ICNDT chooses the NDT Society/country to run the Wo rld Conference every four years

– Shanghai 2008– Durban 2012

• ICNDT carries out activities in accordance with a S trategic Plandeveloped with its members

• 50 years since first official meeting 1960 - 2010

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Global challenges for the NDT community – structure of lecture

• Global challenges• Examples from the energy industries- illustrate by reference to the activities of Doosan Power Systems

• Describe the activities of ICNDT in response to these global challenges and give some of my views along the way

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Company update

• Doosan Power Systems Limited – A subsidiary of Doosan of South Korea, a market lea der in the Energy sector– Markets in Europe, America (N+S), South Africa and Asia– HQ in UK; incorporates Doosan Babcock (boilers) and Skoda Power (turbines)– Employs 6000 people (5000 in UK), >£1bn business– Major user of NDT in own business, in supply chain and a supplier of high – tech NDT and

condition monitoring services to nuclear, power and oil and gas industries– Accreditied NDT laboratory and Inspection Body

Nuclear Thermal Turbine & Generator

Desalination Casting & Forging Construction

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Global Challenges

• Recognition of the importance of NDT• Responding to the globalisation of business• Ensuring quality and reliability of NDT services

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Recognition of the importance of NDT

• NDT is an overhead activity, often with no perceive d added value• Value comes from the avoidance of cost, risk and po tential

accidents•Avoid economic and human catastrophe such as Gulf o f Mexico

• More clearly perceived value when NDT or condition monitoring is used to permit life extension, or reduction of s tatutory outages, or to permit planes to fly

•Forth Road Bridge•Nuclear power plants•Fossil Power plants•Volcanic ash cloud over W Europe

Essential role for ICNDT and NDT Societies to promote NDT

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Global Challenges

• Recognition of the importance of NDT• Responding to the globalisation of business• Ensuring quality and reliability of NDT services

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Globalisation of NDT activities

• Design, building and operation of plant is globali sed• Safety, reliability and availability of plant and m achinery

depends on the whole supply chain of companies and contractors all around the world, each with their o wn NDT personnel

• Industrial companies procure equipment and material s from wherever is most cost effective, increasingly from developing countries, using local NDT services working to the contract standards

• Construction may be by home personnel or by teams f rom third countries

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Globalisation of energy projects – example – coal fir ed boiler

• Customer is USA subsidiary of a German company

• Managing contractor from USA• Boiler design by Doosan Power Systems

in UK, India and China to ASME codes• Materials sourced globally, including

Korea, Europe and China• Boiler manufacture in Korea and Vietnam

by Doosan Heavy • Other equipment procured globally• Construction by USA team with local NDT

contractor

750MW ASC Doosan Babcock boiler – Trimble County E.ON USA

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Globalisation of energy projects – another example - Nuclear power plant

• Customer is UAE• Managing contractor from Korea• Design in Korea, ASME codes• Materials sourced globally, including

Korea, Japan, and China• Primary Circuit manufacture in Korea • Construction under Korean supervision

by crew from Asian countries

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Global Challenges

• Recognition of the importance of NDT• Responding to the globalisation of business• Ensuring quality and reliability of NDT services

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Ensuring the quality and reliability of NDT service s globally

Research and developmentStandards Procedures

EquipmentPersonnel Training

Personnel CertificationHuman Factors

Audits and Surveillance

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NDT QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE

PROCEDURES

EQUIPMENT

PERSONNEL

HUMANFACTORS

Techniques

EquipmentAccessoriesCalibration

TrainingQualificationCertification

Codes of Ethics

Codes of Practice

Job SpecificProcedures:

Capability Trials

Proficiency Tests

Job Specific Training andQualification

Management andPlanning(Risk based)

Validation

Performance Demonstration

Inspection

Qualificatione.g. ENIQ, ASME

Surveillance Audit

Certification, e.g.

EN ISO/IEC 17020

Quality SystemCertification,e.g. ISO 9001

Accreditedlaboratories acc.EN ISO/IEC 17025

AccreditedInspection Bodiesacc.EN ISO/IEC 17020

AccreditedPERSONNELCertification Bodies acc.EN ISO/IEC 17024

NDT system Standards Company actions Qualification

Inspection,Certification,Notified Bodies

AccreditationBodies

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EFNDT Guide to Overall NDT Quality System

Could we write a similar “global Guide”??

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Global Challenges

• Recognition of the importance of NDT• Responding to the globalisation of business• Ensuring quality and reliability of NDT services• Activities of ICNDT relating to Certification of

Personnel

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ICNDT focus on Personnel Certification

• NDT quality chain very dependent on personnel certi fication• We need

– NDT Certification that we can rely on all around th e world– Certificates gained in one country need to be

valid/recognised world-wide – Correct implementation of Third Party certification and In-

company certification(SNT-TC1A)– Harmonisation and mutual recognition of similar Cer tification

schemes

Look further at the background…..

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Company/ EmployerAuthorisation to work

EducationTrainingExperienceGeneral theory examGeneral practical examSpecific theory examSpecific practical exam

Central certification or in company

Company specific trainingIn company experienceCompany specific theory examCompany specific practical exam

Company certification

Overall process described in company’s NDT Quality System (Written practice) checked/audited by external inspection authority (eg ASME, or Notified Body)

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Elements of Personnel Certification – good practice

Central Certification Based on ISO9712 or EN473 and

ISO17024Accredited

Why several standards?

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Company/ EmployerAuthorisation to work

EducationTrainingExperienceGeneral theory examGeneral practical examSpecific theory examSpecific practical exam

Central certification

Company specific trainingIn company experienceCompany specific theory examCompany specific practical exam

Company certification

Overall process described in company’s NDT Quality System (Written practice) checked/audited by external inspection authority (eg ASME, or Notified Body)

Based on ISO9712/ ISO17024

Accredited/Approved ?Allows mutual recognition

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Supplementary Sector specific requirements

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Company/ EmployerAuthorisation to work

TrainingExperience

Company specific trainingIn company experienceSpecific theory examSpecific practical exam

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Background

Education

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General theory examGeneral practical examSpecific theory examSpecific practical exam

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=

Central Certification Based on ISO9712 or EN473 and

ISO17024Accredited

Why several standards?

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Conclusions• Lots of detail differences beween these standards bu t few of

great significance• Many ought to be resolvable by discussion and compr omise• None would any prevent mutual recognition• Conclusions advised to ISO and CEN• Support joint Working Group of ISO and CEN - done• ICNDT to seek liaison membership of TC135 - done

ICNDT Workshop on Harmonisation of Certification to ISO 9712, EN473 and aligned standards– Shanghai 2008

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ISO/CEN Joint Working Group on harmonisation of EN4 73 and ISO 9712

• Excellent progress– key differences between the standards analysed, exp erts

discussed how these can be resolved in a harmonised standard.

– None of the differences were considered sufficientl y important to prevent mutual recognition

• In the meantime, the JWG declared– “Notwithstanding the detail differences between the present

versions of ISO9712 and EN473, the competence of ND T personnel certified according to these standards is considered effectively equivalent.

– It is the employer’s responsibility, prior to issue of the authorisation to work, to check that an individual’ s certification (EN473 or ISO 9712) and any additiona l employer-administered job-specific training and exa mination are adequate for the NDT tasks to be executed.”

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Published 1 March 2009

www.icndt.org

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Complementary activities of ICNDT

• Develop global Mutual Recognition Agreement• ICNDT Approval scheme for certification bodies to

complement accreditation• Common global question bank• These are proposed activities of ICNDT Working Group 1,

included in the draft Strategic Plan, but subject to discussion at the ICNDT General Assembly in Moscow in June

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EFNDT Mutual Recognition Agreement

• Original ICNDT Guidelines included a model agreemen t for mutual recognition

• Some bilateral agreements• European (EFNDT) Mutual Recognition Agreement signe d October

1994 in Nice

– 29 countries recognise 18 schemes– Opened to Certification Bodies outside Europe– Takes advantage of accreditation but can substitute own independent audit if

necessary– Details on www.efndt.org

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Results

85%% of those answering Yes to A that would consider ICNDT approval as an alternative, or in addition to, accreditation:

96%% of those answering Yes to A that would participate in an ICNDT Global MLA:

60%% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme is accredited:

96%% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme satisfies ISO/IEC 17024:

100%% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme satisfies either EN473 or ISO9712:

71%% of respondents indicating that the ICNDT member provides an NDT Personnel Certification Scheme:

60%NDT Society response rate:

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Survey of ICNDT Membership

• 60% response• 71% of respondents were ICNDT members who operate I SO9712

schemes and comply with ISO17024 (60% so accredited )• 96% would participate in a ICNDT Global MLA• 85% would consider ICNDT approval of Certification Bodies as

an addition or alternative to accreditation

Congratulations to RSNTTD on organising the 10 th ECNDTJune 2010

Thank you for your kind attention and