. A the ch!evml I volume 12 number 19 tuesday 5’october 1971

An open Ieffer from Rick

A 11loody shame! That’s what it \ws. I\‘ight in the middle of the rugby game saturday at Columbia tie/d, 1 rent’s Bryan Ma yes sif- tcrcd a broken leg. Was he carried oft; the field! No. Because there L% a 5 no medical equipment prtlsent. Luckily, the miles for millions people were close at hand, and after waiting only half cm hour on the field, Mayes was takn off in an ambulance. He us returned to Peterborough Inter 5aturday in good condition. Perhaps medical units could, be proL(ided for similar events in the jutwe.

I agreed to write this article before I submit my, official resignation to the federation of students council so I can explain the reasons I am resigning as president to as many students as possible.

During the last few days of Larry Burko’s administration of the federation, Alex Smith revealed that he intended to publish a magazine. By the time the issue got to my executive and council, Smith had spent in excess of $1,000. The council, the executive, and myself all refused to deal with the real issue and smoothed the thole thing over. Smith published his magazine, voices, and the bill came to $9,000.

Then on September lath, an issue of the chevron appeared that cost the students $4,175. (Compare that to the $1,700 an ‘ordinary’ chevron costs.) At that point I called an

. executive board meeting to have Smith fired for mismanagement of funds. The executive board fired Smith on a split vote. Because the executive is the board of the main council, it must have all it’s decisions ratified by council. At the council meeting of September 27th the council once again refused to accept their responsibility to the students and rejected the executive board decision.

It was argued, in both instances, because the total printing budget would not be overspent that the funds had not been mismanaged. I am resigning because I don’t agree.

Because the chevron is media does not exempt it from useless expenditures of student’s money. I don’t think that any board or subsidiary of the federation should spend money on nothing, just so a budget can be totally used.

The primary job of the president of the federation and the council is to make sure that the total federation budget is not

mismanaged. The chevron editor as an appointee of the council must also be held responsible.

I do not believe that Alex Smith deliberately misused his budget. The chevron, the federation and radio Waterloo have been run by the same people for more than two years now. Although they are distinctly separate groups they have one thing in common, they’ve! made a profession out of positions that shouldn’t be professional. Alex Smith, as a professional, cannot see that the chevron should never be an overpriced piece of art but a student newspaper.

I have been involved in the federation on the executive level and three years as a lackey before that. I feel the same profession- alism in this job.

I am presently decentralizing all the activities of the federation that are directly reporting to me to allow for maximum participation from new people. By the time I leave office, they will be running

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the board of student activities and doing a great deal of the corn.- mittee work. The chevron has already started and will speed up when Alex Smith is removed as editor. I am also suggesting to my executive that they decentralize their boards.

The federation council has already established six working committees that will open up the councils workings to a great deal more students.

Decentralization‘ will not work if the people who use the federation, the chevron or radio Waterloo do not find out how they work and start making them work. It will not work if the societies and the federation do not acknowledge their differences and work for the students.

Most of all it won’t work if you don’t care.

Peace and Power, Rick Page

by Marc Roberts the chevron

. Science Society

The chemistry club is selling “fantastic fire-proof lab coats” for

Fass Forming $4.00, $3.70 to members. They are available in the chemistry building

\ There will be an OrganiZatiOnal somewhere. meeting for FASS in the theatre of the arts tomorrow night at 7. All Engineering Society “B” ’ actors, dancers, singers, writers, and anybody interested in finding out what its all about are urged to attend.

Artsoc busy

DR J A DYAL, retiring chairman of the psych. dept. was honoured last .week by a dinner party. He was presented with a marble pen and ‘pencil set by Dr. Steffey. A large picture of Dr Dyal will be hung in the new psych. building. Those in attendance to honour Dr Dyal included president Burt Mathews, dean of arts P.G. Cornell and building co-ordinator Werner

. Rydell. There are two appointments for

representatives to the president’s advisory council and board of student’s activities ,available. A new club is in the stages of forming for mature students. See Phillip Benovoy in the society office for more details.

Last tuesday nite the engineer- ing society voted in favour of giv- ing the birth control centre financ- ial aid. A telephone directory will be available in two weeks from the eng. sot office. Engineers need volunteers for their newspaper. Drop into the friendly eng. sot office for directions.

Next meeting of the engsoc coucil will be on tuesday October 5 at 6: 30 pm in the board and senate room. It is rumored that the final fate of society fees will be decided. PERSA

On friday last the PERSA sponsored roller skating pub was held at the Glenbriar curling club to the tune of the resurrection shuffle. A message to all jocks, especially those in first year, support PERSA, it’s a good thing.

All societies and clubs are reminded to turn in all news to the chevron this week.

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Serglo Lavarella, the chevron AS the last precious remnants of clear, warm summer sunlight filtered through the pines, a uniwat toed found a spot amid the greenery Saturday and allowed the pure light of life-giving essence to illume the ~)ag~s oi Iler textbook. See you after the solstice...

l?cdicul student movement meets by Jaine O’Connell the chevron

The second R.S.M. meeting opened with a discussion of John Koop’s candidacy. Koop is going to run on an independant ticket in the coming provincial election if the registration fee can be raised.

Some of the group felt it would be good to finally have a real alter- native to the monopoly the three main parties presently hold in Canadian politics on all levels. Even though Koop’s victory could only be effective on a local level, it miglit at least demonstrate that people in Waterloo are finally doing something concrete to

Others felt it would be wiser to install what most consider the lesser of the three evils, the N.D.P. candidate. Even though it would be a vote for a negative alternative it would not split the social democratic vote. An appeal was made for energy or ideas they might have to contribute.

From there the group moved into discussion on whether they should establish an explicit direction and work as a collective group toward definative goals or form functional segments within the group ac- cording to the particular interest areas of the individuals and their available time.

Some proposals were offered.

to inform and politicize the unaware and apathetic populace was suggested. Another offered sending two busloads of students to Brantford to aid the striking Tex Pak workers. Also, a far-sighted proposition was to establish a free university next summer run by unemployed students.

As there is no leadership nor group obligation there were no <decisions reached on the group level although it was concluded that concentrating on the university community would be the most effective.

One thing definite was decided. The R.S.M. want to provide a meeting place for alienated people

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NDPj qxd7y win WLU poll A survey conducted among

Waterloo Lutheran university students regarding the upcoming provincial election showed an almost even voter preference for the three parties.

Among those students who said they intend to vote October 21 and

.$ndicated knowledge of the can- didates, thirty-five, per cent said they would vote for the new democratic party.

Close behind were the progressive conservatives with 33 per cent and the liberal party with 32 per cent.

The survey was conducted by professors John Redekop and clonrad Winn of the political science department. They sur- veyed 1,400 students on a random sample basis during registration two weeks ago. Many samplings use f’ewer replies in making political analysis.

in studying the returns, the two professors said that although a strong majority of students in- dicated an intention to vote, a probing of their responses to a series of questions about local candidates and provincial leaders revealed disinterest in the election.

“Consequently my colleague and 1 believe that onlv a Loire majority of students is likely to vote and even that assessment may be optimistic ,” Rcdekop said.

“Among those students who said they intend to vote and give evidence of interest there is ap- proximately an even preference for the three parties.”

When the results were broke11 down further into the newly en- franchized group of students, those 18 to 20 years old, a somewhat different pattern resulted.

The 18-to-20-year-old group showed a much greater preference for the conservatives with 37 per cent opting for the government party, 32 per cent for the NDP and 31 per cent for the liberals.

For those 21 and over, the preferences were 38 per cent NDP, 33 per cent liberal and 29 per cent conservative.

In interpreting the results, the W 13 professors asked themselves how the students would vote and agreed that widespread apathy indicated in the responses made any predictions uncertain.

“Among the large number of apathetic students - that is those who answered the questions in the- survey but don’t intend to vote - the liberal party was indicated ,f- :$y as the party of their choic.‘,” Redekop said.

A young hiker pauses to rest her weary feet while covering many miles for millions Saturday. The covrse wove its way between uniwat and WLU and kept several Waterloo policemen on the streets and out of trouble in traffic directing jobs.

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Winn added that if the liberal party catches fire, more WLU students would vote liberal than either conservative or NDP.

“This situation is not likely to occur, however, because Ontario i’iberals-students and non- students alike - have historically been relatively apathetic in provincial elections. ”

A rriore likely outcome, he suggested, is a slight campus plurality for the NDP. He felt more students are likely to vote for the new democrats because sup- porters of that party tend to be older and more interested in the election.

From their knowledge of students at WLU both professors had expected to find a greater popularity for the progressive conservative party than was in- dicated.

“We were somewhat surprised !o find as much support for the new democrats as the survey showed,” Redekop said. “Its strength among the older students was also somewhat of a revelation.”

George Kaufman, the chevron

George Cross, graduate dean, said at friday’s press conference that government restrictions on foreign graduate students may hurt (anadian universities.

wer sfwfen by Deanna Kaufman 1 he chevron

Although the figures on enrollment are not ready, president Burt Matthews indicated f’riday that while the freshman projection has been reached, there is some doubt about the senior students.

Matthews called this fall a “real eye opener.” In january there ;irtre some strong requests to in- crease the freshman projection in the fear that intering students wouldn’t find space. This has not happened.

Matthews had. no figures

available at the bi-weekly press conference, although they will be ready in one or two weeks.

“Something is happening that students are not continuing as they once used to. The idea of taking a year off is catching on,” he said.

Matthews said he wasn’t against this type of attitude even though when these students come back to school an enrollment bulge may be created.

“A year off may do them a lot more good than a year of university at this stage.”

The fall enrollment figures were also a concern of George Cross, graduate dean, in light of the new

0 - Indian leader voices concern over economics

by Nwlcy Murphy the chevron

Mr. G.S. Dhillon, member of parliament in India and speaker of the ‘Lok Sabha’ (equivalent to the Canadian house of commons), entertained reporters from various water100 rags in a 15-minute press conference last thursday.

The visitor’s special interest in social welfare was displayed -in his solution to the control of the Iridian population. He explained that family planning should include such measures as nightclubs, cinemas, and dance halls to keep the women away from the home for as long as possible.

Mr. Dhillon also assured those present that communism, another problem in the socio-economic realm, was also being controlled. He explained that in not banning communists, India has not allowed them to be heroes.

He also went to great lengths to relieve the minds of the reporters and the university top brass present, tha,t tie recent treaty with Russia was only an “agreement of peace and friendship”.

India did find the arrangements of the USA to supply arms to Pakistan slightly disconcerting, especially since this move resulted in an additional 8.5 million refugees to her already swollen population. However, an “agree- ment of peace and friendship” would be as possible with the USA as with Russia.

Mr. Dhillon also mentioned concern about moves by Britain to join the european common market. However, he added that India has so many other economic problems that such a development would not affect his country as much as it would affect Canada.

When asked if India had con- sidered agricultural communes as a possible economic solution, Dhillon remarked that the government never “experimented with uncertain things”.

At another in the interview, he explained that a strong central government -was necessary for efficiencey.He also felt that this emphasis of centralization was common to the present Trudeau government.

restrictions by the department of university affairs (DUA> on

’ financial aid to graduate students. DUA has placed restrictions on

the amount of money that can be paid a graduate for a teaching assistanceship to 1,800 dollars. A restriction has also been placed on starting new graduate programs.

These restrictions were adapted in part to descourage foreign students since DUA felt Canadian universities’ foreign student population was too high. Uniwat’s foreign students comprised 14 per cent of the graduate enrollment last year, this figure will probably drop this fall, Cross said, because of the restrictions.

Cross, unlike DUA, does not see the foreign student enrollment as a bad thing.

“Many feel some foreign student component is absolutely necessary for a healthy department.”

Cross called the DUA regulations “too rough” and said recommendations will be drafted whereby graduate schools will be assured some top-notch foreign students .

Matthews echoed Cross’ state- ments saying that purely from a balance of payments point of view that Canadians must admit that they have received more from the international academic com- munity then they have yet given.

In the past 20 years many Canadians have studied abroad simply because the facilities were not available in canada. But if other advanced countries had imposed restrictions on Canadians, then many would not have been able to receive their degrees, he said.

Although the DUA regulations on financial support applied to all graduate students-Canadians as well as foreign students-the restrictions hit foreign students harder since they may have a more difficult time getting into the country.

The immigration department won’t allow a person in on a student visa unless he or she has an international scholarship or a guaranteed income of about 3,000 dollars, Cross said.

“Where universities lose the ability to attract students is when they lose flexibility in how to use money.”

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Rock music today consists of a precious few innovative and talented originators and a lot of unoriginal but talented people who can fairly reliably be classified into one of the current ‘streams’ of style which form in the wake of each innovative person or group.

The really successful imitators are those talented enough to do a little more than just copy the original note for note and inflection for.inflection, trying hard to hit the top 40 because they sound close enough to the original. Successful imitators add a twist, adapt the original sound to their own style.

Too often, a lot of good talent is wasted sjmply trying to copy success rather than adding original talent to borrowed ingredien td.

Joe Cocker is a good example of a truely talented copier. Cocker can take other artists’ material and arrangements and add his own passionate approach and come out with his own, authentically valid sound.

Cocker has used the best of such talented pei>ple as the Beatles, Bob Dylan and Leon Russell in this way.

- But when someone decides to imitate closely a successful

The only thing they lack is Cocker and a little imagination.

And, every song Dr. Music does is precise, loud, one after another wi.thout, pause, well-rehearsed.

They seem not to have picked up the Cocker-Russell feel for mood in music. Cocker’s choir could be quiet and effective as well as loud and effective.

The piano-organ player was obviously the power behind this group, and he ran the show with an iron hand and virtually no spirit.

Dr. Music came off much better on original stuff-like their Top 40 hit, “One more Mountain”-than on the blatantly borrowed tunes.

But the WLU audience seemed to eat it all right up, original or not.

Strangely, the audience sat on its collective hand during a really fine warm-up set by a group called E’lying Circus.

Circus, unlike Dr. Music, has mastered the art of borrowing with originality, and they add a talented drummer and lead guitar man-on top of a competent bass and rhythm guitar-to outstanding vo- cal work.

borrower like Cocker, they’re asking for trouble. Circus added some really nice

twists and jams to several old And that’s exactly what the new rock-and-roil standards and

Toronto group called Dr. Music - brought out some Promising who appeared at WLU friday original material, and did both night- seems to have done. with power and confidence.

Cocker took the Leon Russell- written and arranged “Delta We hope to see Circus around

Lady” and turned it into something more often in the future, without

like a rock classic. working warmup slots .

Dr. Music has assembled the whole “Mad Dogs and English- men” bag-backup band of brass and reeds, piano, organ and a seven-voice chorus.

And, they rip through a tune like “Delta Lady” with virtually every note of the Cocker-Russell original intact.

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princess to the light, or the truth, in order for them both to live happily together forever after. It’s just a little sad that fairy tales so seldom come true.

Nonetheless, Reich has found hope for tomorrow in the university students of today who are achieving an altered state of mind from that of previous generations, indeed, who are advancing Into consciousness I I I.

Consciousness I people were the original settlers in America. Roughly, they believed in economic individualism, sought to dominate their environment by technology and subordinate men to the state. Their form of mentality led to numerous problems, the improper use of natural resourses, exploitation of labour, even the 1930’s gangster, and eventually, to the increased industrialization that destroyed the small town, poor-boy- makes-good virtues that they clung to. In response, a new form of consciousness was born, one that urged organization and ever further subjugation of the in- dividual to the state. Individual good was sacrificed to the common good, individual destiny to the fate of corporations and the nation. And the time has now come for consciousness II to pass away. The very values that it lived by have given rise to a new awareness, the consciousness Ill df

T he Greening of America is surely the saddest book in America today. Cognizant of the con-

clusion, betrayal, and mistrust of daily life In the United States, it searches out the causes of the malaise in an attempt to find a cure. Unfortunately, the result of its detailed diagnosis is nothing more than a glossy and superficial vision of an unobfaina ble utopia.

No one would deny that the American nation today is deeply disturbed and troubled. Nor is there anyone who does not hdpe that a solution can be found to the social, political and economic problems that *beset it. But surely it is part of the American tragedy that a book like this, that tells people only what they want to read, that promises an end to all that is unfair and unjust, and a future of love and sharing if one simply has the courage to deny the demands of modern technological living and do what one really wants fo, is so readily accepted and ardently proclaimed as truth.

Although very much aware of the tragedy of his nation, whose development of technology far outpaced the growth of Its citizens’ ‘conscipusness’, Charles Reich himself has fallen out of touch with actual reality. An intellectual writing in an Ivory tower, he has described the world as it should be, rather than the way it is. One reads the greening of america and tiants to believe that the future will turn zut as fine as Reich predicts it will, but if 3ne then looks at ne$ door neighbours, students in the library or children in the streets, such optimism seems unreal.

In short, thegrebingof america can be Interpreted as a modern fairy tale. Similar to all good stories of make-believe, it has its evil‘ villains - the state and the machine, who take advantage of its in- qocent and helpless heroine - the average citizen, while she waits to be rescued by the brave, strong hero, that is, the youth If today who have achieved awarehess of consciousness Ill. As in all tales, the hero

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A superficial vision of an unobtainable utopia

where they eat, sl6ep and play is another. Secondly, the similarity of the fur-

nishings at one house to another have supposedly resulted in the child forming but slight attachments to his surroun- dings. It is this lack of connection that later leads the young adult to throw off his desire for consumer goods and make himself truly free. It too seems a little unnatural and strained.

But then, so are Reich’s descriptions of the student of today who wears blue leans, not because they are blue jeans or because everyone else does, but because they “are earthy and sensual. (Because) they express an affinity with nature; the browns, greens and blues are nature’s colours, earth’s colours, not the colours of the machine, and the materials are rough and tactile. The clothes are like architect- ure that does not clash with its natural surroundings but blends in.” Or, discussing bell bottoms, he explains that they “give the ankles a special freedom as If to invite dancing right on the street. They bring dance back into our sober lives. No one can take himself entirely seriously in bell bottoms.”

Yet it is to these same dancing youth, so ’ badly betrayed, so often exposed to the

the youth of today. It is a very neat and compact. ex- *

planation of the history of the United States. Its facts are tidily cut and shaped to dovetail into one another. The revolution is coming - but not entirely as Marx foresaw. The economic basis of struggle has been replaced by a struggle for individual self-expression. People attaining consciousness III come to realiz’e that this is exactly what the modern technological state has denied them. Entering a new awareness, they begin to accept themselves for what they are, reject the imperatives of society and Its false consciousness, adopt their own philosophies, life styles, and values.

hypocrisy of parents that. he has en- trusted the future. Looking at the yearbooks of today’s universities and comparing them to one of fifteen years ago, Reich is struck by how different the students appear. But instead of ascribing those differences to changes in fashion, he writes what the average American wants to hear, that the new generation is more concerned, more seriously anxious, ready to tackle the problems of the nation. Its a statement of ‘hold the fort - relief is on the way.’

Competition is no longer of importance, no one is measured by given standards, in fact. no longer does anyone judge anyone else. Honesty, a reverance of in- dividuality, and commitment to the community a‘re the keystones of their beliefs. Liberated themselves, it is a short while before 4he change will have swept the land.

The theory is almost too glib. All that is bad to day is the result of the wrong thinking of older generations, something they could not have avoided, and ne- cessary for our present attainment of enlightenment, but nonetheless, thinking that led to wrongs and discontent. Only that which is good lies ahead, and it is certain to come. One wants to believe - yet how sad that the millioris of Americans have been able to convince themselves that such a simpiistic view of man is right.

The unreality of the greening of america is perhaps nowhere more evident than in its explanations of the birth of consciousness Ill in the in- .dividual. Reich believes that the early and extensive exposure of the child of today to the world of television reality creates such a false view of actual life that when the child does encounter the real world, he cannot help but be severely shocked by the discovery that he has been deceived by the television set. The child becomes a skeptic of everything, he “sees right through every form or posture and pretense; he believes nothing he is told, he experiences that crucial feeling of the new generation, betrayal.” It seems far more likely that as children of four or five come into contact with the outside world for the first time, they also come to realize that television is one world, as stories

.and make-believe are, and the world

In the greening of america, students are no longer interested in fitting themselves for jobs, but atter-id university to fully develop all their o3vn inclinations, however diverse, before entering the world and creating a position where they can use all of their skills. Once employed, Reich believes that $52~ will make their work meaningful. He is not very specific about how this is to be done, and the only example he gives is that of a lawyer, a

professional man who has always been free to organize his day to permit himself personal expression, if he so desired - but Reich’s optimism is unbounded.

It even extends to the populace as a whole, who he is certain are only waiting to be shown the possibilities of the new conciousness to immediately strive for it. One wonders if consciousness I and II people are really dissatisfied endugh to switch to an ideology whose basic premise is that they have lived their lives all wrong, that it is time to forget subordination to others, time to con- centrate on developing their own in- clinations. Does the factory worker of fifty even remember what his basic nature was? Won’t he find the search more frustrating and troublesome than just continuing to live in his present state of consciousness? Why should he join any such revolution?

But again, the idea that labour will make work meaningful to themselves is exactly what middle class America would like to hear; if labour only did then it would cease to bother management for raises and better working conditions. Work would provide its own rewards.

If a consciousness lli does exist, even among a minority of the youth in society, will it really form the basis of a revolution? Reading the book one is strongly tempted to believe that the novel ideas and approaches of this new awareness are already spreading. On the other hand, glancing around the campus at Waterloo, one wonders what Reich is writing about. How sad that readers are * placing their hope for the future in a movement that does not properly exist.

What assurance is there that con- sciousness III will succeed in liberating all the unhappy persons in America before those consciousness I and II destroy the world entirely?

Reich sees hope, but what is there to prevent the disillusionment of his revolutionaries after .several years of struggle-what if they don’t gain im- mediate power over the state and Machine? What can be sadder than an expected utopia born dead?

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(Stanley Kramer, the producer and or director of High Noon, On the Beach, and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, among other films, was in Toronto recently to publicize Bless the Beasts and Children (reviewed in last friday’s c hey ron ) . He graciously consented, upon very short notice, to give the following exclusive interview to the the\-ran’s Paul Stuewe.)

“It seems to me I was right about Nuremberg, that at that time, the four major powers agreed that the law of humanity transcended national laws. But that’s not what they believe any more?’

Stuewe: You once said “A story becomes important if ik represents a blow for or against something-if it has great impact.” Could you expand a bit on what sort of impact you were aiming for in Bless the Be&&s and Children?

Kramer: Well, I’m aiming for the inipact of drama, that’s for sure. I think that to explain “what sort of im- pact” is probably a very big mistake, at least for a filmmaker . . ..How- much are you going to probe my subconscious? The filmmaker or anybody who writes a novel or composes a piece of music has operating, at the same time, so many subconscious influences that they’re tough to pin down. He may not be aware of them, as I have

. not been aware of some of mine. People have said to me: “This film has a reflection in terms of Kent State, or of My Lai.” Is it about a generational differential; or is it ecological simply, or is it, as Harry Ashmore says, a study of the gun cult in America?

I might add just by way of passing thaf the National Rifle Association, which is the most powerful lobby in America, also thinks Bless the Beasts and Children has something to do with the gun cult, because they want to make sure it doesn’t intrude itself into the .battle as to whether or not there should be gun control legislation.

Stuewe: One of my reactions to the film was that, having seen several of your previous works, I’ve always had the feeling that you’ve usually had one major point that you’ve attempted to get across. In Judgement at Suremberg or Inherit the Wind, for example, that was one fairly obvious thing that you were trying to say. Although I was expecting this again in Bless the Beasts and Children, I did see all the things that you’ve mentioned, and it would seem that you’ve attempted to touch a number of bases, I’m not sure how successfully.

Kramer: You won’t be the only one who’s not sure how successfully, because that comes with the trade. I don’t know, there’s always a big differential of opinion- I wasn’t trying to touch all those bases at all, those are things which have been mentioned to me, and sometimes

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they happen to agree with many of the things-1 feel. I felt that this was a very simple tale and that whatever grew out of it would be so simple that it just wouldn’t matter if YOU thought that 1 was touching so many bases. I felt that it was a story of love, of love and a sense of feeling about the worth of animals, and therefore the worth of human beings. I just didn’t think of it in all those other terms except as byproducts of the aftermath of discussion.

Stuewe: Again, from seeing most of your films, I’ve felt thatwhen you make a film such as On the Beach, which is opposed to nuclear warfare, there probably aren’t many people who are in favour of nuclear warfare. So that when you make a film that’s opposed to it, you’re attacking a straw man, in the sense that your attack already has the consensus of the great majority of the population.

Kramer: Do you believe that? Stuewe: Yes. Kramer: You really believe that? The reason I ask

whether you believe it, or not is because I find it staggering. I firtd it staggering because, first of all, as far as many of the things with which I’ve been associated, everybody seems to lose any sense of where we are in time. On the Beach is a 1958 or ‘59 film-if you’re trying to tell me that everybody was opposed to atomic or nuclear warfare back then, I think you’re out of your mind.

. E’irst of all, that film almost split the scientists in two. I had Linus Ptiuling and another fellow from Berkeley as advisors on the film, and Dr. Teller was having conniption fits. I went to the State Department to try to borrow a nuclear submarine, and they said that what was I trying to do, saying the world will be wiped out in a nuclear war, is ridiculous : ‘There might be four or five hundred million casualties, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world.’

Stuewe: This is what Herman Kahn calls “thinking about the unthinkable,” and I don%’ doubt that at the political level nbclear warfare is a possibility that one presumably has to be aware of. But do you really think that if a survey had been taken in ‘58 or ‘59,- you would have had even 5 percent of the population in favour of nuclear warfare?

Kramer: But that’s not a fair question. Do you really think you’d find a viewpoint about nuclear war if you took ;I poll and asked people “Are you in favour of nuclear war or against it?”

Stuewe: Yes, this is the point I’m trying to make. When you make a film which comes out against nuclear war- jare, you’re not saying very much, you’re not saying anything that people are going to disagree with or that’s going to make them think.

Kramer: My dear friend, it seems to pe that if that’s your opinion there’s not much that I can say about it.. . .

Stuewe: Well, why don’t you talk then about what you intended to say in On the Beach?

Kramer: What I intended to say was that unless the powers which controlled nuclear warfare ended the arms race, someone by accident was going to push a button, which would end everything. By no means did everyone understand the implications of this: people thought as I did, as a soldier in World War II. When the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, I had no idea of the implications of it . I thought, well, the war will be over sooner.

Stuewe: So that you wanted to present people with the logical consequence of allowing the status quo to con- tinue’!

Kramer: I think so. I mean, what would the banner at the end of the film-“There’s Still Time, Brother”-mean unless it meant that something had better be done about it?

What about Nuremberg here? You said earlier that when I say something I “intend” it. It seems to me that I was right about Nuremberg, that at that time the four major powers agreed that the law of humanity tran- scended national laws. But that’s not what they believe any more, so that I think that my misgivings about mak- ing a film about it, at that time, were probably justified and not at all oversimplified.

Stuewe: How would you feel about rereleasing .Judgement at Nuremberg with a new prologue by yourself, pointing out the comparisons between the Vietnam War and World War II, particularly in view of the My Lais and other war crimes which are beginning to surface?

Kramer: I would not agree with rereleasing it with a prologue by myself, because I think we’re in a totally

“Vietnam is not just immdral; Vietnam is the immorality of the iti moral.”

different ball game. I personally believe that history has a way of zipping by your ear almost before you can turn around. I think that in some strange way, qualitatively, the whole thing centering around the Calley situation has gone two steps further towards trying to understand what this strange fear is all about. I’m very much interested in the Calley situation, and while I haven’t said that I’ll make the picture, if I can feel what I feel in terms of the way I’ve grown up, I’d be willing to make it.

The big thing is this: I know Calley very well, I was at his court martial every day, I have 70 hours of tapes which I’ve listened to and discussed with him very, very carefully. At this point in the discussion of this idea I feel almost naked, when I have everything but the tiay to do it and the conclusion. But I think it’s interesting, in light of your having brought up the point of doing a prologue to Nuremberg, where I stand and where I came to from Nuremberg. I made that film, and I believed it, and I still believe it, but something else is happening now.

Situcwe: What, precisely? Kramer: Well, what has happened is Vietnam. Vietnam

is not just immoral; Vietnam is the immorality of the immoral. Now that’s a nice phrase, but I use it because of the kind of war it is, one which has no valid excuse as there has been for most wars....1 guess I’m going to have to just thread my way, since you opened this discussion. Galley is a very ordinary, or maybe less than ordinary, man, uneducated, ungrammatical, ill-equipped for anything in terms of the pressures he was called upon to face. The prosecutor in his trial, a young man on a white steed....

Shewe: This is Daniel? Kramer: Yes. Daniel is a very bright fellow, but he has

the most singularly one-track mind of anyone I’ve ever met. Daniel could not admit, could not even see the possibility, that Calley, besides being a monster, ‘was also a human being. In other words, how can you transcend the barrier of what he did? He did it, he’s guilty, he’s not a hero or a martyr. But if you can, for a moment, jump the barrier of what he did, if you can assume that a human being did that, it opens up an entirely different view of what he is and what he did. Because in a war where all of the attendant immoralities became as bad as the basic ones, everybody in Vietnam, North, South, and everywhere else, became a “gook.” Now a “gook” is a thing that hasn’t got too much value, it’s just a native and it’s better dead than alive, really, particularly if it has any possibility of becoming dangerous.

Sluewe: And if it can be counted. Kramer: The body count, right. Calley told me that he

was asked “What’s your body count?” He said “What body count?“, and was then asked “Well, how many guys did you knock off ?” Calley said “None,” and was asked if he had seen any dead bodies. “Two or three,” he replied, and was told “Alright, thirty is your body count.”

TO go beyond that, you also have to take into account the guys who marched to the White House bearing signs saying “I killed three women,” “I did this.” Or Calley’s own account of how he was on the edge of the jungle and a runner came back and said “I think there are VC in that village,” and Calley called up a million dollars worth of artillery and flattened them.

Sluewe: This seems to boil down to the proposition that

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‘Daniel could not admit...the lossibility that Calley, besides . being a monster, was also a Iuman being.”

lley is human.... Kramer: Yes, but I’m trying to say that he’s a piece of manity, perhaps I should put it that way.... ~~ucwe: Warped and crippled by his experience of life. Kramer: Yes, because he’s so ill-equipped to deal with

He’s ill-equipped to deal with normal situations, hough what’s normal about a war? I mean that if it’s it a normal pressure he can’t deal with it. Now if you Ice him in Chis context, what I’m trying to get at-and n trying to thread my way through several different ngs, for the moment-if this be true, and you combine it th the destruction of the American image (false image, aidentally) of handing out chocolate bars and never ing guilty of the kinds of things that other countries re guilty of, then is it possible to find out about Calley, brace him from what he is to My Lai? iou’d have to pay a lot of attention to fear, and per- ration, and babies on steps, one of which exploded

,en a guyepicked it up. You can’t justify Calley, you’ve :. to say he’s guilty from the start, as he says. But you’ve : to dismiss the guilty part, that’s not the idea. The idea :his: is it possible that this guy, who’s not slick at all, o’s not sophisticated at all, is the anti-war symbol of s generation? ituewe: Perhaps Calley is already such a symbol for bse who marched in front of the White House, as I think In Kerry has said.

story as I feel it and let it lay there. That is, if by any stretch of the imagination my conclusion is correct, which I’m not sure of. If I were sure of it, I’d be making the picture.

look, I’ve lived in an opposition capacity to the war for so many years that I’m unclear, perhaps, and don’t have

Stuewe: From a Canadian point of view, one might hypothesize that your feelings about Calley are wound up in the fact that you’re an American, someone who iden- tifies with him in a way that you weren’t able to identify with those who were on trial at Nuremberg, where it was . easier for you to make a moral decision.

Kramer: While I feel that, I don’t think too much about it except to say that I’m an American, that’s all. Sure,

is that I am that kind of strange “Ahe reason for critical hostility .

‘liberal incarnate’ of the ‘4Os, ‘50s and ‘60s...and a discarded liberal

’ has less chance of being accepted in the revolution than does a reactionary.”

Kramel-: Well, Kerry has said that as an intellectual cxcercise. That’s something else.

Shttwe: True, he does seem to be running for office. Kra met-: Right, but when I was there at the court

martial, Calley received visits of sympathy from governor Wallace and Dr. Speck on the same day! It occurred to me how cocked-up the emotions are about this, how nothing is clear, really. Event though I’ve seen some strange bedfellows in my time, that’s a weird one.

such great perception on a lot oi things. I feel that if you took a poll of the American people today, 90 percent of them want out of Vietnam, no strings attached. Now that immediately brings up the point, how does a democracy work? Well, it works damn slowly sometimes, because of what can be cloaked under the heading of national security or military necessity or whatever: there are a legion of things which a free people, guilty of many errors, and perhaps with the wrong sense of values for a long time, suffer as in many parts of the rest of the world. For example, it would be hard to imagine in the United States of America, even today with all kinds of strange people and pressure groups running the attorney general’s of- fice, that they could get away with what Trudeau did.

Shttwe: The question that immediately springs to mind is whether or not the experience of attending the Calley trial has changed your mind about Nuremberg?

Kramer: No, it couldn’t have changed my mind,’ because I’m going on a different track. I think Judgement a(. Nurctnberg had to do with the discussion of respon- sibility and that the Calley thing goes into an area which almost transcends responsibility. The event intrudes itself into the morality to the point where you’re dealing with a different set of values entirely.

Shtbwe: You don’t think that’s true of Adolf Eichmann, in Arendt’s sense of “the banality of evil?”

tiramcr: No, I don’t. Eichmann could sit down and say “I’m doing this because Section 73 of such-and-such a law says that these people will be so incarcerated and the orders from headquarters are that’they will be gotten rid of in such-and-such a way. ” “Is it difficult to handle these people, Herr Eichmann . 3” “Well, it isn’t difficult at all to kill them, the difficulty is in the disposing of the bodies.” I honestly think it’s a different thing entirely.

Shtbw:e: You wouldn’t see the “free fire zones” in Vietnam as constituting exactly that sort of official sanction?

Kramt*r: Well, look, I ean make the parallel, but I must say that I believe it’s taking me off the track. I believe you’re leading me into something else entirely. I see (‘alley as an individual, and I’d like to be abl? to tell his

Stuewe: The War Measures Act. Kramer: Yes, whatever you call it, because I think

there would have been a revolution. Stuewe: In looking through some material about

Stanley Kramer, I came across a quote from John Simon . . . .

Kramer: -Please! Stuewe: I take it he’s not your favorite critic? Kramer: No, he’s not-1 mean he’s someplace between

Rex Reed and a gnat. Stuewe: Do you think that people such as Simon. Kael,

McDonald, whom we might call “highbrow New York critics”--or rather they might call themselves that....

Kramer: They call themselves “highbrow,” I call them bogus intellectuals.

SCuewe: Why do they react so negatively to your work? Kramer: For a couple of reasons, but now this’is a piece

of analysis about myself, which is always dangerous; but for purposes of conversation and discussion rather than for overt statement, not saying that these are the reasons, and trying not to be presumptuous, I think that 25 years from now the body of my work may be discarded, as Kael might discard it, or it may represent something, I don’t know. I do think that the reason for critical hostility is that I am that kind of strange “liberal incarnate” of the ‘~OS, ‘SOS, and ’60s. During those years I was almost alone in doing the kind of work about the kind of subject in which I was involved, so that as a result, since these critics came into being in the eye of the revolution, as it were, I stood as the figure who would be under the most attack: I represented that other life, and a discarded liberal has less chance of being accepted in the revolution than does a reactionary.

So I understand that part of it. Secondarily, there have come into being “schools” of critics in the New York area, with their influence seeping out toward the collegiate and hinterland areas. A species has come into being who are not critics, really, they are people who attack very often and very hard, on personal and other bases, and who have also become a kind of TV-radio personality who is in- teresting and entertaining, to be invited because they cause controversy. I’m not sure how much they really like films, because I find that although they can pick certain favorite filmmakers, in some instances the best ones, true, they also have an inability to find validity in a film which represents a lesser contribution to the form. If they really liked film, that’s what they would look for and find. I find that their destruction of a piece of work is always total.

Also, many critics write for posterity-they all write books now-and they supposedly write “importantly.” I personally feel embarassed for critics, because their influence is not what it should be. If I make a film, after a year or two’s work, immediately perhaps 25,000 people all over the world take pen in hand and write lengthy pieces about what they think of it. I believe that their influence should be greater, but I think that communications have broken down. I don’t think that people, even people of good taste, believe the critics any more than they believe the government. The standard is not high enough, and I am sure that I would like critics to be very definitive and raise standards for themselves, not for the audience. I’m quite willing to have high standards established, but it’s something else now, or it has been with me, anyway, for the last five years-I’ve had it, but good. Sometimes properly, and sometimes not. I’ve often said facetiously that any bad criticism used to bother me for two weeks when I was young; then I reduced it to a week, and now a couple of bufferin tablets take care of it.

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Friday afternoon, Waterloo tennis club was the site for a tennis match between the university of Windsor lancers and our own warrior tennis team.

This was the last preliminary match for the team before they leave for the university of western Ontario, this thursday to compete in the OUAA eastern division championships.

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With the warriors winning seven of the twelve matches, on friday and playing without their number one player, Brian Robertson, it appears that they can look forward to a victory this weekend. Robertson, an optometry student, should have his contacts back by then and again will be able to see the ball.

Following a win at western, our boys will travel to queens to compete with the winners of the western division of the OUAA.

This division includes the rest of the Ontario universities such as queens and the powerful university of toronto blues.

At friday’s meet, in the absence of Robertson, John Pezzack took over the number one spot and demonstrated his tennis prowess by winning both of his matches. He won one singles event and then teamed up with John Beatty to win one of the doubles matches. Beatty in his singles was out played by a

‘former Caribbean davis cup tennis star.

Axle Larson, through sheer per- sistance won both of his singles events as did Allan MacLellan.

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Quarterback Chuck Wakefield attempts to sneak through the Guelph line on a scrabble play. Al Pirie looks on helplessly as Wakefield is about to get crunched between two gyrphon defencemen.

Warriors over gryphons 754 The warriors won their second

football game in four days by defeating the university of Guelph by a score of 15-l.

The team managed to look both very good andvery bad and it was fortunate that Guelph was unable to capitalize on the Waterloo lackluster third quarter. At the same time it should be noted that the defense played outstandingly well and held Guelph twice when they \had first and goal.

Mike Flynn played an out- standing game and it was his fumble recovery on the Guelph

twenty yard line that set-up Waterloo’s first score, a ten yard field goal by Steve Boghossian.

Stu Koch played still another great game, recovering two gryphon fumbles, and proving that among other things desire is about 90 per cent of success, John Buda and Rick Cheevers were both unbeatable in their positions.

The disappointing fact was that Rick Wiedenhoeft could manage only one punt return for a touch down and hopefully he will return to his Windsor form on Friday

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Saturday afternoon at Columbia field our rugger warriors played host to the rugger team from Trent University.

The afternoon was highlighted by lots of fast continuous action and the odd injury. The inspired rugger warriors came out on top as a result of their consistent tackling of the Trent ball carriers, and the constant harassment of the Trent team by gaining possession of the ball on the majority of the line outs and strums.

Waterloo started the scoring off in the first half with a try scored by Rick Hobson and converted by Dave Kane. This gave the warriors a 5-0 lead.

Hugh Thompson then scored a field goal for Trent on a ‘penalty kick from twenty three yards out. That brought the score to 5-3 in favour of the warriors, and was to be the last score for Trent.

An early half time was called as a stretcher was not available to remove an injured Trent player from the field. Upon the arrival of the ambulance and consequent removal of the player, the second

half started. Five minutes later the Waterloo strum over-powered the trent strum and Glen Stain crossed the line from a few yards out. Kane again made the conversion andthe score advanced to 10-3 for the warriors.

Towards the end of the game, Waterloo added one more try and a conversion to bring the score to l5- 3, the final score of the game.

The next game will be a week from Wednesday at the Columbia field, where our warriors will play host to Brock university.

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night. The offense still had trouble

mounting and maintaining a long drive but did manage not to turn the ball over on fumbles and in- terceptions as often as in past games. Chuck Wakefield who was bothered by a sore shoulder still managed to throw the ball well, especially to the new flanker Brian Beatty ‘ who has been switched from fullback and who knows how to run with the ball after catching it. On two occasions, Wakefield just missed Pete Bedford on long pass attempts which would have possible gone for touchdowns.

Steve Boghossian, the rookie kicker, like the rest of the team was both hot and cold. As has already been mentioned he kicked a field goal and in addition to this scored on a convert and five singles including one of 65 yards and with the exception of a few second half punts played an ex- cellent game.

Western lost to ‘mat master which leaves them with a three and two record and Windsor defeated lutheran and they also have a three and two record. When this is all added, the warriors are now only one game out of first place. A win this friday against mat would give the team a whole new season.

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TRACK AND FIELD Fourteen events were held last

thursday in the little Olympics at seagram stadium. Eight of the former records were broken as st jerome’s college amassed five first place wins and nine seconds to take the team title.

John Balcarras of phys ed took both the sprint events. Other double winners were Paul Dekking in the horizontal jumps and Peter Camani in the two distance events. Dale McKenzie took both the javelin and the discus throws.

St Jerome’s also broke the existing sprint relay record clocking 47.2 seconds.

GOLF After the regulation 36 hole final

golf championship, three golfers were tied with identical scores of 152.

Larry Anstett and Ted Mac- Cahill of st jeromes finished in a dead heat with Terry Redvers of phys ed and rec.

The 18 hole play-off between these three saw a fine display of golf.

On the final hole, the positions were determined as MacCahill shot a one over par 73. Anstett finished two strokes over at 74, and .Redvers was not far behind with a 75.

” Ken Skoretz of upper engi- neering missed the 36 hole of those three golfers by one stroke when he ended with a 153 for fourth position.

CROSS COUNTRY Prior to last Wednesday’s

football game, the first annual engineering challenge cross country race was held with 20 competitors involved.

The race, covering a little over three miles, started and finished at seagram stadium.

Peter Camani of st Paul’s posted the fastest time completing the course in 15 minutes 35.2 seconds.

Not far behind was Doug Ward of lower engineering with a time slightly over six minutes. The team championship went to St Jerome’s placing, their five runners 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 15th.

FOOTBALLS During the first schedule week of

competition, in flag football and

soccer, a few teams have already lost games by default. A second default by the same teams erases them from the league.

The new rules introduced this year limits the running game and forces teams to concentrate on passing attacks.

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Standings last thursday saw Conrad grebel leading all teans with a 2-O win loss record scoring 41 points and allowing none.

In league B, south and east of village one and north-west of two are tied with two points after

ywinning their first outing. Phys ed and ret are tied with

science for first place in league C after also taking their first games.

Lower math and optometry are ahead in the fourth league with no losses against two wins.

In the soccer circuit, after one game for each team, ‘The country men’ and St Jeromes lead the A league while village north and lower math are tied for that spot in the other league.

REC TEAMS The entry deadline is fast ap-

proaching for many recreational team sports. This friday will be the last day of registration for teams in ball hockey, co-cd volleyball, floor hockey and S-man basketball.

Ball hockey, a fast moving game was first attempted on campus during the summer term and easily ranked as the most popular activity. All games in this sport and floor hockey will be played at Seagram’s gym.

The third annual Waterloo in- vitational was won for the third straight year by the golfing warriors. The team, paced by rookie Tom Porter, ended the competition with a combined 297 total. Porter, who shot a one under par 72 ended the day with top medalist honours. The fine per- formance of this first year student forged a 16 stroke victory over second place Queen’s.

The university of Toronto was third two strokes back with 315.

Other warrior shot makers and their scores were: Ed Heaves with a 72, Fin Melville, included a triple bogey 8 for an otherwise top round of 72. Dave Hollinger ended with 77, Dave Bogdon and Jim Mc- Cutheon rounded out the warrior ’ squad scoring 78’s.

This victory over eight . top collegiate teams gives the warriors a 28-l win loss record this season.

Waterloo has one more tri-meet before travelling to St. Catherine’s for the OUAA championships on thursday and friday.

A win this weekend would mean the third consecutive cham- -Don McCuthceon, the chevron pionship for’ the warrior golfers and coach Jack Pearce is confident Warrior freshman Tom I-‘orter led his squad is a strong, confident the team to their umpteenth group with a lot of talent. victory Ia-st weekend.

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GIRLS EVENTS / After two games of flag football,

phys ed and ret are tied with village-one-east after both won both their opening encounters. Village II - west is sharing the same 2-O record after defeating St Jerome’s and renison.

Broomball will begin before this month is over ; teams must be organized and entered before then.

Synchronized swimming has as organizational meeting tonight an the athletic complex.

x-cout7fty win The warrior crosscountry squad

posted their second victory in as , many outings last weekend.

Waterloo and six other collegiate _ teams were involed in the five mile run at York university. Most of the race took place on the roads which proved treacherous in Saturday’s hot, humid weather conditions.

Dan Anderson took the lead from the beginning of the race and had no trouble following the course.

Last week’s winner, Jim Smith of Guelph attempted to remain on Anderson’s heels but faded at the half-way mark and dropped back to fifth position as the end of the race neared.

Waterloo was assured of placing all five runners in the top ten until Nigel Stothard dropped out at the three mile point.

As the athletes flashed by the finish line, Dan Anderson chopped two minutes off the course record and four other warrior harriers ended in 5th, 7th, 8th and 22nd positions. In respective order. these were Mike Kaine, Jon Ar- nett, Gadis Roze and Dave Grant.

Two other runners travelled to Toronto with coach Arthur Taylor : Dave Robins finished 28th and Dover Ward 30th.

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‘The Guess Who GYPSY

Trials of Jason Hoover

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a mountebank peddling elixirs, i roll out of a magic knoll in a wagon painted blue and green, with. strange phrases of many languages embossed in gold and black.

cure-alls patter from my tongue: yet this is only the barker, S guised in the robes of quackery, who buffoons his wares to a carnival crowd.

actually the elixir

when alone, i wear a deep, silent frown that i come costumed in such a healer’s role, the only profession i am fitted for, a fix-it-all handyman of the soul. the hitch in my voice arises from the awareness that while i want another’s happiness, no matter how gentle the telling, i still have to watch in horror as my words fever the disease.

comes with the recommendations of other famous healers, a magician holding a spotted toad, a gypsy with her amber ring,

. and despite its guarantees, it works only if the swallower believes in himself. my only real sales pitch is a laugh.

jim joyce

for Fred Alexander

you have loved and still love her. having been caught in the seasons’ change you stand aside with a quip

- laughing at the pain in your eyes.

there are debts that can never be repaid, - only recognized and the gift passed on.

my happiness is your place. it is in her memories that you jump into my awareness; we nod to each other in the moments of passings

there are debts that can never be repaid, only recognized and the gift passed on.

jim joyce

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. we lie here exhausted; spent across our desk and typewriters. we of the western front and alliance have successfully smashed the onslaught of the godless hourds of maoists. their representative was quite disappointed when we collectively turned down his offer to permit us to run parts of the people’s canada daily news release; complete with quotes from chairman mao (for a small fee). the jargon flew fast and thick but undaunted the chevron staff fought on for the sake of truth, god motherhood and free pizza. from our rumours department this week it should be noted that the gay lib group was refused in their request for money from the arts society on the grounds that they are supposedly not a recognized club and that they were not comprised entirely of undergrads. seems four staff got in there somehow (way to go way to go philying-Phil). it also seems that phil is making appointments to the presidents advisory council and the board of students activities. i’m just wondering how all this fits into people’s concept of student democracy. a special big loving huggly smothering kiss goes out to the entertainment this week as they save us from more graphic white space on these pages. as a co- ordinator i am apologizing for the messup on a feature last week. it is annoying however after all the work we put in here on different people’s writings, when they come in and arbitrarily complain about things about which they know nothing and are not willing to come in and do the shit work themselves. the staff functioned as a tight unit this week as we settle down to turning out a good paper. collectively collecting this week in the entertainment co-op were paul steuwe, mel rotman-who unfortunately may be leaving us with this issue as he has things to do before he goes to europe, david cubberley whom should be contacted if one wishes to work in entertainment on the paper, larry burko, jimmy allen, gord pearson, and Pauline houlden. jocks this week were terry morin, don mccutcheon, randy hannigan, sally kemp, and dennis mcgann who is the co-ordinator. photogs bloomed this week with doug baird, Scott gray, brian cere and his girlfriend, sergio zavarella and his wife, Steve izma, dave harrington, gord morre co:ordinator for photo, and with a special appearance this week was george kaufman who constantly pretends that he is not one of the better photogs-contrary to reality. moving on to news, this week there were joan Walters, bob mosuringjohn, nancy murphy, deanna kaufman, jaine o’connej,, mark roberts, nigel bennet, george kaufman production manager, james joyce, and last but not least larry burko is taking a vacation for a few weeks and going travelling out west, like the eye of the storm is dissipating. a final very important notice to all those who care about anything: major holdings has announced the opening of a savette store near the westmount plaza on October seven at 945 in the morning. major holdings has been throwing hippies out of their homes and savette is part of the weston empire (remember the zehr’s strike) bibi. ws.

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