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    How We GotHow We Got

    The BibleThe BiblePart 3

    Reliability

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    The ReliabilityThe Reliability

    Of the BibleOf the Bible

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    Intense ScrutinyIntense Scrutiny

    Around the Middle of the 19th

    century Scholars commonly

    claimed that the Most importantbooks of the NT including the

    Gospels and Acts, did not exist

    before the middle of the 2nd

    century.

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    Intense ScrutinyIntense Scrutiny

    F.C. Baur - Tubingen School, Germany.

    Walter Cassel Supernatural Religion, 1874.

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    Caesars Gallic War

    58-50 B.C.

    10 Good Copies

    Earliest is 900 years

    after Caesars day.

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    142 Books of theRoman History of Livy

    59 B.C. A.D. 17

    Of the 142 books, only 35survive today

    We only have 22 copies of

    those books

    Earliest copy is from the 4th

    century

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    The Histories of

    Tacitus A.D. 100

    Out of 14 books

    Only 4 survive

    today

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    The Annals of Tacitus

    Of 16 books

    Only 10 survive in full

    and 2 in part.

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    The History of

    Thucydides 450-400

    B.C.

    8 full MSS, the earliest

    dating A.D. 900

    A few scraps of papyrus

    from the 1st century.

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    What to Look ForWhat to Look For

    The Number of Copies

    The Proximity to the Event

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    The New Testament

    5000 Greek MSS of the New Testament

    Earliest, most important Date c. A.D. 350

    Codex Vaticanus - Vatican

    Codex Sinaiticus - British Musem

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    Codex VaticanusCodex Vaticanus

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    Codex SinaiticusCodex Sinaiticus

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    The New Testament

    Papyrus Fragments discovered in the 20

    th

    Century

    Fragments of an Unknown Gospel 150 A.D.

    Fragments of Papyrus Codex containing John

    28:31-33 A.D. 130

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    Fragments of an UnknownFragments of an Unknown

    GoseplGosepl

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    Fragments of JohnFragments of John

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    Early Church Fathers (quotes and allusions)

    The New Testament in the Apostolic Fathers,

    Oxford Historical Society, 1905

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    The Weight of EvidenceThe Weight of Evidence

    Archaeology

    Existence of Hittites

    The Isaiah Scroll (Dead Sea)

    Erastus inscription

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    Extent of the Hittite EmpireExtent of the Hittite Empire

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    Isaiah ScrollIsaiah Scroll

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    Erastus InscriptionErastus Inscription

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    The Real ObjectionThe Real Objection

    Not the Facts but the Implications

    The Fantastic Claims and Demands

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    Philosophical ArgumentsPhilosophical Arguments

    For ReliabilityFor Reliability

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    Philosophical ArgumentsPhilosophical Arguments

    For ReliabilityFor Reliability

    Consistency:

    Is the Bible Full of Contradictions?

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    Philosophical ArgumentsPhilosophical Arguments

    For ReliabilityFor Reliability

    Credibility of Witnesses:

    How Do You Test Someones Testimony?

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    Philosophical ArgumentsPhilosophical Arguments

    For ReliabilityFor Reliability

    Self Defeating Testimony?:

    Is there anything in the story that seems to

    work against it?

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    Philosophical ArgumentsPhilosophical Arguments

    For ReliabilityFor Reliability

    Changed Lives:

    Test of Divine Revelation

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    What Can We ProveWhat Can We Prove

    We Have the testimonies of those who

    were closest to Jesus.

    They Literally believed He was who He

    said He Was.

    Enemies could not easily counter his

    claims.

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    How We GotHow We Got

    The BibleThe Bible

    Part 3

    Reliability