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HOW THEY DENY THE LORD(THAT BOUGHT THEM)

BY JEFFREY D. DEAN SR.Sep 03, 2011

I have stumbled onto a web site that is written by some very well meaning (but confused)Christians. I was not going to identify this site in this article, however, after perusing a

lot of their site I feel compelled to do so for two reasons.

On their site they specifically target people, rather than the teachings those people spread.

I feel that it is just, therefore to identify them specifically when targetting their teachings

(because to make their teachings look like they are "typical" of Christianity would be a bit unfair and dishonest to Christians. I once heard a song in a Christian coffee house that

went something like this "Everyone wants me to write a protest song about how bad the

government is, everyone wants me to write a protest song about how bad religion is, how

come no one wants me to write a protest song about how bad they is..." I am sure thatGary and Lisa Ruby, who run this site will be very upset that I am exposing their error,

but this is precisely what they do to others.

The second reason I identify them by name is because I want my readers to be able to

examine their teachings for themselves (many of these teachings are "almost" true but

when it comes to the Gospel of our Lord and Savior it's like the old saying "close" onlyapplies to horshoes).

I have also included the most recent letter I received from Lisa Ruby because I wanted

the evidence of what she told me to be presented to my readers.

The web site is run by Gary and Lisa Ruby. I could not discern what brand or

denomination they espouse by reading their web site, but it appears to be some form of Methodist teaching intermingled with a bit of other teachings. Their web site is located at

http://libertytothecaptives.net/default.htm .

If you have read my recent article "The Greatest Is Love" I posted here you have already

seen my partial response to what these two are teaching. In short, they take a major stand

on the purely Methodist opinion that we must repent and live free from all "KNOWN"

sins (which more than implies there are "UNKNOWNN" sins- much in the way theRomans worshipped the "unknown God" and Paul said "I perceive you are in all ways

much superstitious"). There are no "unknown" sins, to believe in such a thing is just assilly as believing that if you crack a mirror you will have seven years of bad luck.

Sin is the transgression of the law and we ALL KNOW the law. (We who have the holyscriptures and especially we who have the Holy Spirit). We have the law "written in our

hearts and minds" under the New Covenant, therefore we cannot say we do not know the



law even if they were to take the scriptures away. The Holy Spirit comes to lead and

guide us into all truth and he does not hide anything from us, neither does he hold

anything back. (I could show you all the scriptures on this, and perhaps I will, but really,anyone who has a Bible and has ever attended a church must know these things).

In light of sin being "transgression of the law" and the Holy Spirit who comes to"convince" us of our sin, how anyone can cling to the notion that there are unknown sins

is beyond me. Yet, this is only Gary and Lisa's FIRST mistake. It's a doosy for sure, but

they pin their entire doctrine on it because they want to hold on to the notion of the"Adamic Curse." For, you see, the only way there could be "unknown" sins is if we are

BORN SINNERS and just sin instinctively! I challenge ANYONE to break the logic of

this conclusion. If we can go about sinning without knowing it then we must just be

"sinners by nature."

This is the REAL reason for the quantifying of sins into "known and unknown" sins, so

that one can hold to the Pagan teaching of the Roman Beast religion that man is

intrinsically BORN sinful.

I ask you, how can a man or woman who claims to "walk in the Spirit" and claims to"follow Jesus Christ" and claims to have put "Christ in charge" of their lives and claims

only to do the WILL of the Father who sent Christ and claims to only do that which

Christ has commanded them to do, how can such a person "accidentally" sin? If I'm

doing what Christ says to do, is Christ going to tell me to sin? Of course not!

Yet, this is at the very heart of the error that Gary and Lisa Ruby are teaching. It makes

provision for sin in the lives of the believer in that any believer who sins can then say"oops, sorry I didn't know, I repent."

I have revealed this to my readers because I wanted to show the REAL source of Garyand Lisa Ruby's error. It's another PERFECT EXAMPLE of how the teaching of the

Roman man/God taints everything that you do once you buy into it. For, yes, indeed,

Gary and Lisa are staunch trinitarians and believe that Jesus was both all man and allGod.

Once you believe that Jesus was GOD INCARNATE that belief creeps into everything

you do. It's ironic that Gary and Lisa both quote "a little leaven leavens the whole lump,"in their articles but do not see that the unholy leaven of the God/Man lie has leavened

their entire ministry.

They do not understand that the God/Man heresy was created to justify the teaching of the Adamic Curse and to make man "natural born sinners," thus selling all of mankind

under the PERMANENT BONDAGE of sin, FOREVER.

The Trinitarians have held from the beginning that Jesus was in perfect obedience to the

Father BECAUSE he was God Incarnate and did not have the "Adamic Curse" being that

God was his BIOLOGICAL Father not Joseph. (Yet I have shown in my other articles

plenty of scriptures that state the Messiah was in fact the seed of David, and descended



from Adam).

Jesus, therefore had an advantage (according to the Trinitarians) that WE can NEVER have in that he could not accidentally sin! No wonder Gary and Lisa are Trinitarians

because without that belief they cannot even teach the "unknown sin" lie. Incidentally, if

Joseph was not Jesus' biological father then Jesus does NOT qualify as Messiah under ALL that we know from the old testament about the Messiah's first coming. (But I

digress).

On the surface, the teachings of Gary and Lisa seem very sound scripturally. They have

connected the dots and shown how Christians who live in disobedience to the Father

cannot possibly be following Christ. Yet, dig deeper and you discover they leave a loop

hole for sin in that a Christian can live in disobedience to the Father as long as thatChristian does not KNOW he or she is doing so!

In short, the teaching IGNORES THE HOLY SPIRIT MINISTRY entirely.

Not only do Gary and Lisa ignore the ministry of the Holy Spirit, they deny it outright. I

now submit as my evidence the most recent response I received from Lisa:

Since Jesus is God (he is the creator: "All things were made by him; and without him was

not any thing made that was made) we have the grace to overcome the world, the flesh

and the devil by the power of the Holy Spirit who lives within everyone who obeys him.The modern day "church" says that grace means umerited favor so they teach that

salvation is basically an initiation (say a sinner's prayer) and then the initiate may

continue being overcome by willful sin -- thinking that grace causes all their past,

present and future sins to be.

I agree that what is known as the church (especially in the US) has accepted "another

Jesus" (another spirit -- spirit of antichrist) but I know that Jesus Christ is God. "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." 1

John 1:3

I don't think the sinful "Christiantiy" teaching came about because the church regards

Jesus Christ as God (he stated as such in scripture. If he was human then "I am my

Father are one" means that he achieved at-one-ment (man becomes one with God) whichis an occult doctrine.)

I think the standing vs state doctrine that came in via Scofield (who was taught by John Darby -- who revealed his true colors via the tons of Theosophical terms he used in his

doctrinal writings --still haven't done that article yet) is one of many reasons

"Christianity" is in the state that it is in.

Webster's 1828 dictionary reveals the way the church regarded the words, "faith",

believe, grace, etc. before Scofield got his points with Satan for putting out his Reference



bible. Now those who regard themselves as born again Christians still call themselves sinners because that is what Scofield (Ryrie, etc.) communicates they are -- their practice

-- but their position is in the heavenlies. (False doctrine.)

I think you've got a lot of good points (am reading your Word Press site book) but I know

Jesus Christ is God and is seated at the right hand of the Father. Jesus Christ is man. I know those who are saved are predestinated to be adopted and nobody can come to the

Son unless the Father draws him and I also know that God is not willing that any should perish and whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. (The errors of

Calvinism and Arminianism were born from choosing one side of what God said.) One

cannot believe just part of what God said. God calls and whosoever will are saved. God'sword says that Jesus Christ is a man and also that he is Alpha and Omega -- the

beginning and the end. Both are true.

I just take God at his word. My understanding does not authenticate it. It is alreadyauthentic because it is his word.

I try to submit my limited intellect to God's Word -- and believe it by faith, rather than subject his word to my reason. Those who do this (even without realizing it) tend to make

their reasoning the final arbiter of what is true.

"Christians" in modern churches (all connected to Rome) have received another Jesus

(antichrist spirit) yes, it is so true, but they can yet recover themselves out of this snare of

the devil if they would heed the Holy Spirit, who is trying to reach them through his word and his servants. That's the remnant that God is calling out of the Apostasy.

If the so-called Christians of today continue to resist the Holy Spirit and refuse to come

out of the false church with its false Jesus, when the actual man of sin is revealed, THE Antichrist, God will send them a delusion that they should believe a lie. They will not be

able to recover from this delusion. It will be too late.

Anyway, that is where I am at right now. I am not expecting to change your mind (only

God should be allowed to do that for anyone) but just letting you know where I am.

Have a good day. Rushing around here right now -- excuse typos and what-not.

Sincerely,

Lisa Ruby

I highlighted two statements in this letter because first, we can see that Gary and Lisa atleast acknowledge the Holy Spirit with their mouths, using it as a weapon against the

other Christians they see as in error, but at the same time they DENY the Holy Spirit

ministry entirely by calling the "oneness of man with the father" an OCCULT teaching. Iwas floored by this, because there simply are SO MANY scriptures that teach we are



ONE WITH THE FATHER BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

I am going to go down just a PARTIAL LIST of these very scriptures to drive the pointhome. To begin such a study, however we must at the same time address the Trinitarian

arguments concerning the acclaimed deity of Christ, and in specific their steadfast

insistance that Christ Himself CLAIMED TO BE GOD. We cannot do a scriptural studyof the Holy Spirit and our ONENESS with the Father (and with Christ) without dispelling

the myths.

Christ (Messiah as I prefer) is the SON OF GOD. This is not in dispute. Yet, those who

follow - Christ are likewise "sons of God." We see the first hints of this in

Matthew 23:8- 10.

"8 But be not called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all

you are BRETHREN

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father,

which is in heaven.

10 Neither be you called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

In verse 8 Jesus states that we, as His followers, are SERVANTS of Christ and no oneelse and we are BRETHREN. We are not just brethren to each other but to Christ, this is

MORE than implied in this verse by context. The next verse 9, Jesus expounds further

how that we are HIS brethren because we have the same FATHER! If Christ's Father isalso OUR Father as Christ taught, then we are SONS and BROTHERS of Jesus In verse10 Jesus then reiterates how that he is not just our BROTHER but we are his

SERVANTS. The Messiah is our Master, he is our LORD and SAVIOR, we are his

servants, SLAVES, bought with a price). Jesus is not God, he is NOT the Father, but heIS our Lord.

Matthew 25:40

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say to you,

inasmuch as you have done it unto one of the least of these MY BRETHREN, you have done it unto me."

In the above verses Jesus speaks of his RETURN and the separating of the "sheep and thegoats." In these verses he firmly establishes that he who has seen "the least of his

BRETHREN" has seen him (exactly in the same way he says in John "he who has seen

me has seen the Father.") We are fellow SONS of the Father, if we follow in our LORD'S footsteps. He refers to us as "brothers" and furthermore makes it clear that he



who has SEEN THE LEAST OF HIS BRETHREN has SEEN HIM."

Mark 10: 7-8

"7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to

his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain but

one flesh."

We will look at the relationship of Christ to his BRIDE (the Church) in some other study.

I will simply point out that the CHURCH being the BRIDE OF CHRIST shall be ONEFLESH with Christ. (Otherwise, Christ's words mean nothing at all). Since Christ is

ONE with the Father and we as the BRIDE of CHRIST shall be ONE with Christ, there is

no way around it, we SHALL be ONE with the FATHER even as Christ is ONE.

Anyone who says that being one with God is an "OCCULT" teaching simply does notunderstand scripture.

Luke 6: 40

"The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be

as his master."

Here Messiah states plainly that our goal as SERVANTS OF CHRIST is to beEXACTLY LIKE OUR MASTER. Our Master was ONE WITH THE FATHER, this is

our ultimate goal as well. But don't just take my word for it.

John 1: 11- 12

"11 He came unto his own and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to BECOME THE

SONS OF GOD, even to them that believe on his name."

The POWER of which John speaks is the HOLY SPIRIT. (We will cover that in a bit).

This gift has made it possible for us to become THE SONS OF GOD. In the world of the

Trinity the term "son of God" is synonymous with "God Incarnate." They teach thatanyone who says Jesus is NOT God is DENYING that Jesus is "the SON of God," for in

the Trinitarian world to be "the son of God" is to BE God. Yet, here we have a clear cut

scripture that shows us that WE WHO BELIEVE UPON HIS NAME ARE ALSO SONSOF GOD. Yet, this is not the only thing the Apostle John has to say on the matter. Oh

no!



John 8: 19

"Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, you

neither know me, nor my Father if you had known me you should have

also known my Father."

John 8: 23

"And he said to them, you are from beneath; I am from above: you are of

this world; I am not of this world."

The Trinitiarians use this scripture heavily as proof that Jesus is "God Incarnate." Yet,

the followers of Christ are ALSO "not of this world." Does that mean we are God

Incarnate too? (We will see the scriptures that clearly state we are not of this world,including Christ's own testimony of this in a moment).

John 8: 26 -28

"26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is

true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spoke to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus to them, When you have lifted up the Son of man, then

shall you know that I am he and that I do nothing of myself; but as myFather has taught me, I speak these things."

Here Messiah makes it clear to ALL that his words are not HIS OWN WORDS but come

directly from the Father. (He states this plainly to the disciples later in the Gospel of John as we will soon see). The significance of this cannot be over emphasized, because

there are many of the statements of Christ that Trinitarians use to show that "Christ

claimed to be God" but Trinitarians, like the Pharisees, do not understand that Christnever uttered ANYTHING that he didn't hear directly from the Father. When Christ told

the High Priest "Before Abraham was, I AM," it was NOT Christ's words it was the

FATHER'S words. If these were NOT the Father's words, well then, Christ is a liar when

he says "I don't say anything that I don't hear directly from the Father." Christ was so"ONE" with the Father and so SUBMITTED to the Father that his words came directly

FROM the FATHER. Yet, all the while Christ made a DISTINCTION between

HIMSELF and THE FATHER here, speaking of the Father as someone OTHER THANHIMSELF! Trinitarians say that Messiah was just PUTTING ON A SHOW and was IN

FACT the FATHER HIMELF, COME DOWN TO EARTH IN FLESHLY FORM. Yet,

if this were true then Christ is a LIAR by saying that they aren't HIS WORDS but theFATHER'S, for if Christ IS the Father, then the words were HIS OWN!



John 10: 25

"Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I

do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me."

Notice that Christ testifies that he does these works in his "Father's name," yet, if HE IS

the Father then it's all a lie. He's not doing the works in his Father's name, but in his

OWN NAME.

John 10: 26- 29

"26 But you believe not, because you are not of my sheep, as I said to you.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither

shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all: and no man is

able to pluck them out of my Fahter's hand."

If Jesus IS the Father, he again lied here twice. First he states that his Father GAVE HIMthe sheep, when in fact HE IS THE FATHER and the SHEEP ARE HIS to begin with.

Secondly, Christ would have to be lying when he says that his Father is greater than him,

for he IS the Father and there is NONE GREATER.

John 10: 30- 31

"30 I and my Father are one.

31 then the Jews took up stones again to stone him."

This is the first place in recorded Gospel where Messiah says "I and my Father are one."

It is the PINNACLE of the Trinity. To them there can be no greater scripture to prove

that Jesus is God Incarnate. Yet, I am about to show you that Jesus also states that HISFOLLOWERS are ALSO ONE with the Father as well!

JESUS PRAYS THAT WE BE ONE WITH THE FATHER

In the following verse Jesus prays to the Father after Judas has gone out to betray him:



John 17: 11

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world,

and I come to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name

those whom you have given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE."

This is not just Christ praying that the believers would be of "one mind" as we know

believers are commanded to do. Christ prays for us to be "one" as HE AND THE

FATHER ARE ONE. It is MORE than implied that Christ desired us to be ONE WITHTHE FATHER even as HE IS ONE. Yet, we don't have to use conjecture. Christ states

this OPENLY.

John 17: 14

"I have given them your word; and the world has hated them, because

they are NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE

WORLD."

All the Trinitarians point to Christ's statements that he is "not of the world" as evidence

that Christ is God and came down to earth as a fleshly man. Yet here is Christ praying to

the Father and confirming that even as HE is not of the world, neither are those whom the

Father has given him. (His followers, the SHEEP). The very fact that WE are NOT OFTHE WORLD completely destroys the notion that Christ is God because he said "I am

not of this world." Being "not of this world" in no way makes you God come down toEarth, otherwise, according to Christ's words WE WHO FOLLOW HIM ARE ALSOGOD INCARNATE. Ridiculous.

John 17: 20 - 26

"20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe

on me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as you farther are in me, and I in you, that

they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that you have sent me.

22 and the glory which you gave me I have given them; that them may be

ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE.

23 I IN THEM, AND YOU IN ME, that they may be MADE PERFECT



IN ONE; and that the world may know that you have sent me and have

loved them, AS YOU HAVE LOVED ME.

24 Father, I will that they also, whom you have given me, be with me

where I am; that they may behold my glory, which you have given me: for

you loved me before the foundation of the world.

25 O righteous Father, the world has not known you: but I have known

you, and these have known that you have sent me.

26 And I have declared to them your name, and will declare it, that the

LOVE WHEREWITH YOU HAVE LOVED ME MAY BE IN THEM and

I IN THEM."

How can ANY Trinitarian read these words and come away with the misguided notionthat man being "one" with the Father is OCCULTISH? They clearly teach that Christ is

GOD and here is a verse that says we shall be ONE WITH CHRIST and that CHRISTWILL BE IN US even as the FATHER WAS IN CHRIST! They of all people should

believe in us being "ONE" with the Father in light of the above verses.

It almost makes your head swim how contradictory are the teachings of Trinity!

Yet, I have SKIPPED a LOT of what Jesus taught on this subject in the Gospel of John.

We have to back up all the way to Chapter 14 to really get a grasp of HOW thisONENESS occurs.

John 14: 6- 9

" 6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man

comes to the Father but by me.

7 If you had known me, you should have known my Father also: and from

henceforth you know him, and have seen him."

8 Philip said to him, Lord show us the Father, and it will be sufficient for

us.

9 Jesus answered to him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have

you not known me, Philip? he that has seen me has seen the Father; and

how do you say, then, show us your Father?'

Here is the GRANDADDY OF ALL TRINITY scriptures. It's the one they point to most.



They are so foolish as not to have read the parable of the SHEEP AND THE GOATS and

not understood that he who sees "the least of my brethren" has SEEN CHRIST, according

to that very parable. This does not mean that the "least of my brethren" are actuallyCHRIST. The "least of my brethren" do WHATEVER CHRIST ASKS OF THEM,

therefore, he who has seen the "LEAST" of Christ' brethren has SEEN CHRIST. In light

of this, Christ saying "he who has seen me has seen the Father" is NO DEFINATIVEPROOF that Christ claimed to be God. Quite the opposite actually for Christ states that

"no man comes to the Father" but by him. He does not say "no man comes to me but by

me." He speaks of the Father as SOMEONE ELSE! Yet, he explains how it is that "hewho has seen" him has "seen the father" in the next verses (verses which are NEVER

quoted by Trinitarians).

John 14: 10

10 Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? the

words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that

dwells in me, he does the works.

It is IMPERATIVE to note that in John Chapter 17 Jesus prays that Christ would BE IN

US EVEN AS THE FATHER IS IN HIM. If John 14: 10 means that Jesus is God

Incarnate (because the Father is IN HIM) well, then since Christ is IN US then we are

Christ Incarnate? The logic is irrefutable! Jesus having the Father "in him" is no more proof that he IS the Father come down to earth anymore than having Christ "in us" is

proof that we are Christ come down from heaven to earth! Furthermore, if Christ IS the

Father then his statement "the words I speak are not of myself" is a lie, because indeedHE IS THE FATHER AND HIS WORDS ARE HIS OWN. The WORKS, the miracles

and righteousness Jesus performed also were attributed to the Father, yet if JESUS IS

THE FATHER then he's lying about that as well and they are most definitely HISWORKS, being that they are the FATHER'S WORKS and Jesus IS the Father. When the

Trinitarians make Jesus "God Incarnate" they make Jesus a perpetual LIAR about all of

these things!

John 14: 11

"Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me: or else believe

me for the very works' sake."

Again, the father in Jesus and Jesus in the Father does not make Jesus "God Incarnate"

any more than Jesus in me and me abiding in Jesus makes me "Jesus Incarnate." A child

could see this. Jesus said "believe for the very works sake." Why? Because next he sayssomething that is completely IMPOSSIBLE if Jesus' works were performed BECAUSE

he was God Incarnate (as the Trinitarians most definately assert).

John 14: 12



"12 Truly, truly I say to you, he that believes on me, the works that I do

shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go to

my Father."

If Jesus WAS God, and all of his words and works were the Father's very OWN wordsand works BECAUSE Jesus was God Incarnate, there is simply NO WAY for US to do

Jesus' WORKS for WE are NOT GOD INCARNATE! There's no escaping this.

Furthermore, if Jesus is GOD and ALL HIS WORKS WERE THE WORKS OF GOD because he WAS GOD, how in the world are you going to TOP His works and do

greater? Wouldn't that make you GREATER THAN GOD? Of course it would!

The Trinitarians have painted themselves into a corner here. There is no escaping this. If

Jesus is God, and his works came BECAUSE he was God, and those works PROVE he

was God, you or I can NEVER meet or exceed those works for WE ARE NOT GOD! Inwhich case, Jesus was a liar!

There is a grand irony in that Trinitarians OFTEN say "if Jesus wasn't who he said he was

(God) then he was a horrible liar." It's ironic because most of what Jesus says HAS to belies IF he IS God and claimed to be so! Because he CONTINUALLY speaks of the

Father as SOMEONE ELSE, even praying in the Garden "not my will be done but

yours," and he continually says that his words and works are NOT HIS OWN but hisFathers!

Yet, I believe and am persuaded that we can be JUST LIKE JESUS and the next verses inJohn show us EXACTLY HOW this will be possible.

John 14: 15- 19

"15 If you love me keep my commandments.

16 And I will pry the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,

that he may abice with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees

him not, neither knows him: yout you know him; for he dwells WITH you

and shall be IN YOU.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you,

19 Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more; but you see me:

because I live, you shall live also.



20 At that day you shall know that I am in my Father, AND YOU IN ME

AND I IN YOU."

21 He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me:

and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and

will manifest myself to him."

How do Trinitarians, who teach clearly that the HOLY SPIRIT is the THIRD MEMBER OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, somehow teach that WE are not ONE with God (and that

this is Occultist) in light of the ABOVE? Jesus states clearly that the Comforter (the

Holy Spirit) shall be IN US and that as a result HE (JESUS, THE SUPPOSED SECOND

MEMBER OF THE GODHEAD) shall be IN US and we shall be ONE with him!

If ANYONE should be teaching that we are ONE WITH THE FATHER it SHOULD be

the TRINITARIANS if they would but simply read their scriptures. Yet, they DENY IT

because if they teach it, they LOSE ALL of their landmark scriptures that prove theDEITY OF CHRIST! For, if man can be ONE WITH THE FATHER, then Jesus being

ONE WITH THE FATHER is NO LONGER PROOF THAT HE IS GOD COMEDOWN TO EARTH IN PHYSICAL FORM!

JESUS SAYS THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN HIM

John 14: 28

You have heard how I said to you I go away, and come again to

you, if you loved me you would rejoice, because I said I go to theFather: for my Father is greater than I."

If Jesus IS the Father, this can be NOTHING BUT A LIE! Jesus, according to the Trinityis ONE OF THE SAME ESSENCE and EQUAL TO GOD in every way, yet here is

Jesus saying "the Father is GREATER than I." Both CANNOT BE TRUE. Either the

Trinitarians are lying or Messiah is lying!

THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKES US ONE WITH THE FATHER

John 16: 7- 15

"7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away:

If I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will

send him to you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of



rightesouness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father and you see me no more;

11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

12 I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all

truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that

shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.

15 All things the Father has are mine: therefore said I , that he shall take

of mine and shall shew it to you."

So much for the notion that a believer, a follower of Christ can "accidentally" sin! We

have the VERY SPIRIT OF TRUTH IN US, if so be that Christ abides in us (and we in

Christ). What's truly imperative for you to understand is that sending of the Holy Spiritwas the MAIN PURPOSE of the CROSS, according to Christ in these passages. "It is

expedient that I go away" (to the cross) "for if I go not away, the Comforter will notcome to you." This is the NEW COVENANT in Christ's blood.

When Trinitarians say that it is "occultism" to teach that the Father is ONE WITH MAN

and man is ONE WITH THE FATHER," they nullify the VERY PURPOSES OFCHRIST! They DENY HIM OPENLY! For it is the Spirit who bears witness of Christ

and the Spirit is IN US! You MUST have this ONENESS connection or you are NOT A

PART OF THE BRIDE (the two shall cling to one another and become ONE FLESH).

No wonder Messiah said "you must be born again or you cannot see the Kingdom of

God."

Yet, is this ONENESS taught by the disciples? You'd think they would emphasize it if

it's so important. INDEED, they DID, but the Trinitarians completely MISS these

teachings and WASH OVER THEM!

Romans 12: 4 - 5

"4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not



the same office:

5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members of

another."

Romans 15: 5- 6

"5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded

one toward another according to Christ Jesus:

6 that you may with one mind, and one mouth glorify God, even the

Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

1 Corinthians 6: 15- 20

"15 Know you not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I

then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an

harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know you not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body?

for two, says He, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined to the Lord is ONE SPIRIT.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is without the body, but he

that commits fornication sins against his own body.

19 What? Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit

which is IN YOU, which you have of God, and you are not your own?

20 For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body,

and in your spirit, which are God's"

1 Corinthians 2: 12- 16

"12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which

is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things we also speak, not in the words which man's wisdom

teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches; comparing spiritual things



with spiritual;

14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God; for

they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are

spiritually discerned

15 But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himelf is judged of no

man.

16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?

But we have the MIND OF CHRIST."

1 Corinthians 1: 17

"For Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel, not withWISDOM OF WORDS, lest the CROSS OF CHRIST BE MADE OF

NONE EFFECT."

We have the Holy Spirit and we should ONLY teach by and through that Spirit, our words and our works should come FORTH from that same Spirit of Love and Paul states

in the above text that to do otherwise is to NULLIFY the PURPOSE of the CROSS.

Ephesians 1: 9- 14

"9 Having made know unto us the mystery of his will, according to his

good pleasure which he has proposed in himself:

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather

together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which

are on earth; even in him?

11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated

according to the purpose of him who works all things after the counsel of

his own will:

12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

13 In whom you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the

gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that you believed you were

sealed with that holy spirit of promise."



1 John 2: 24- 29

"24 Let that therefore abide IN YOU, which you have heard from the

beginning. If that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain

in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, AND IN THE FATHER.

25 And this is the promise that he has promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written to you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which you have received ABIDES IN YOU, and you

need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you

of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you

shall ABIDE IN HIM.

28 And now, little children, abide in him: that when he shall appear, we

may have confidence and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

29 If you know that his is righteous, you know that every one that does

rightesouness is born of him.

JOHN CALLS US SONS OF GOD

1 John 3: 1- 3

"1 Behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we

should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knows us not,

because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now we are the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we

shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear we shall be like him; for

we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that has this HOPE in him PURIFIES HIMSELF even

as HE is pure."

JOHN SAYS THAT WE ARE BORN OF GOD

1 John 4: 4- 7



"4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because

greater is he that is IN YOU, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world

hears them.

6 We are of God: he that knows God hears us; he that is not of God hears

us not. Hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that

loves is BORN OF GOD, and knows God."

JOHN SAYS THAT GOD IS IN US AND WE IN GOD

1 John 4: 12- 16

"12 No man has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwells

in us, and his love is perfected in us.

13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, AND HE IN US because he has

given us of his Spirit.

14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the

Savior of the world.

15 Whoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, GOD DWELLS IN

HIM, AND HE IN GOD."

16 And we have known and believed the love that God has to us. God is

love; and he that dwells in love dwells in God, and GOD IN HIM."

How does ANY Trinitarian say that it is "occultish" to teach that man becomes one with

God? Especially when we do know from many scriptures that CHRIST DWELLS IN USand we become ONE with Him, and Trinitarians teach that Christ is God! How can they

say that Christ is IN THEM and they are ONE with Christ, but that they aren't ONE with

God (and call that an occult teaching)? They completely contradict their own doctrines!

PAUL TAUGHT THAT WE HAVE THE FULLNESS OF

GOD DWELLING IN US



Ephesians 3: 19

"And to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge, that

you may be filled with all the FULNESS OF GOD."

Trinitarians teach expressly that Christ HAD to be God Incarnate because scripture says

that IN HIM dwelled "the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Yet, here is a scripture thatwishes the SAME THING FOR US!

PAUL TAUGHT THAT GOD IS IN US

Ephesians 4: 6

"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all,

and IN YOU ALL."

There are simply so many scriptures about God and Christ being IN US and we abiding

in them it staggers the imagination that ANYONE who claims to let the WORD OF GODdictate to them what to believe can say "man becomes one with God" is an "OCCULT

teaching."

Colossians 1: 26- 28

"26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from

generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the

glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, WHICH IS CHRIST

IN YOU THE HOPE OF GLORY:

28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every

man in all wisdom; that we may present EVERY MAN PERFECT IN CHRIST JESUS."

I won't belabor this point any more, however, it's important to understand that the

DENIAL of GOD (AND CHRIST) in us is the SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST and the

"Damnable Heresy" that was predicted would come upon the world.



2 Peter 2

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as

there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring

in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them,and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And man shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of

whom the way of truth shall be EVIL SPOKEN OF."

You can't say anything more evil of the BASIC GOSPEL TRUTH THAT GOD

DWELLS IN US THROUGH LOVE than to say that it is an "occult teaching." When

you accept the "man/God" lie of Christ and deny that WE are ONE WITH THE

FATHER through Christ even as HE WAS ONE WITH THE FATHER, all that is left toyou is damnation and walking in evil! (Especially if you have a loop hole that says you

can "accidentally" sin and it's okay with God!)

Yet, what more does Peter say about these false teachers?

2 Peter 2: 14

"Having eyes full of adultery and that CANNOT CEASE FROM

SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with

covetous practices, CURSED CHILDREN:"

2 Peter 2: 19

"While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the

servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the

same is he brought in bondage."

To teach that there are "unknown" or "accidental" sins that are perfectly OKAY with God

is to return those who seek to live HOLY and RIGHTEOUS right back to theBONDAGE of SIN and DEATH. Like the dog returning to its vomit!

2 Peter 2: 20

20 For, if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world



through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they

are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is

worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the

holy commandment delivered them.

22 But it is happened to them according to the true proverb, the

dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was

washed to her wallowing in the mire."

For you see, with the "known" sin doctrine approach, it is BETTER for someone to NOT

KNOW the LAW and NOT KNOW CHRIST, for, according to Gary and Lisa, you areONLY judged for the "known" sins. For them, it would have been better NOT to know

of Christ, or of the teachings of the Holy Spirit!

They promise the world liberty with a BIG LIBERTY BELL SWINGING AT THE TOP

OF THEIR WEB PAGE but their teachings ONLY lead people right back into wallowingin the mire of sin, for if there are "unknown" sins and we can sin by "accident" then there

is NEVER ANY HOPE of righteousness. Furthermore, if God IN US is an "occult"

teaching, well, then we are TRULY without hope for it is ONLY through CHRIST IN USand GOD IN US that we OVERCOME!

What's worst of all is they have a pseudo righteousness whereby SIN IS OKAY as longas you don't KNOW about it (and I'm reminded of Sergeant Shultz from Hogan's HeroesTelevision show, the prison guard who used to constantly look the other way when

Hogan was up to his shinanigans and say "I know NOTHING.... NOTHING!") Yet, they

JUDGE all other Christians as living in disobedience because Christians teach that sinceChrist was God (something Gary and Lisa believe) therefore, we have our sins PAID

FOR and God does not judge us according to SIN!

Of course, if Christ IS God then the people Gary and Lisa are judging are

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT in ALL of their assertions and there is NO HOLY RIGHTEOUS

LIVING there is only CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS, for, we cannot BE LIKE GOD,

and since Christ was PERFECT and OBEDIENT because he WAS GOD, well, then,there is NO REQUIREMENT FOR US TO DO THE SAME FOR WE ARE NOT GOD!

Oh how confused are Gary and Lisa Ruby?

They are following the antichrist and here's why!

They DENY that Jesus Christ is IN US! (By saying that "man becomes one with God" is



OCCULTISM). When they deny christ (and by reason God) IN US, and our becoming

ONE with THEM, they are denying the ministry of the Holy Spirit. How then do they

HOPE to be OBEDIENT in the fashion they urge other's to do so? Well, of course theyMUST be trying to do it BY THE FLESH, which is setting up their OWN righteousness,

rather than relying on the RIGHTEOUSNESS that COMES FROM GOD'S LOVE IN

US. (For of course they DENY that God is IN US to begin with).

They are denying the very LORD who bought them.

1 John 1: 1- 3

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they

are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the

world.

2 Hereby know you the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses

that Jesus Christ is come, in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in

the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist,

whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now

already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:

because greater is HE THAT IS IN YOU, than he that is in the

world."

Every spirit that does not confess Christ in you (in the flesh, WE are the flesh spoken of

here) that is the SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST.

Gary and Lisa have fallen after the same error as the rest of the Beast religion, for they

DENY that CHRIST IS IN US (of course they deny this because they say Christ is God,then say that man becoming one with God is OCCULT TEACHING).

For, you see, my brethren, dearly beloved. Either Christ was obedient BECAUSE he wasGod Incarnate, or Christ was obedient because God was IN HIM and he was abiding in

God! If Christ was obedient ONLY because he was "God come down to earth in fleshly

form," well then, when he said "I and the Father are ONE" this was literal, in which case

WE HAVE NO HOPE OF REPEATING THIS. In which case, Christ (God as say the



Trinitarians) can NEVER live in us the way the Father lived in Christ.

The entire GOSPEL OF HOLINESS THROUGH GODS LOVE therefore falls likeDOMINOES!

If Christ was a man, and God dwelled in him, and Christ abode IN GOD unto perfectobedience, then we now have our example to follow. If he was perfect because he WAS

God we HAVE NO HOPE of attaining to HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and he died in vain.

(For he died to put God IN US through the Holy Spirit so we could be perfect as he was perfect, yet, if Trinitarians are correct, we never CAN be for his perfection was PROOF

that he was God Incarnate). Shoule we EVER repeat Christ's perfection through the

Spirit we would destroy the PROOF that Christ was God! If Christ IS God, don't think

for a second he's EVER going to let us take away the proof of it by REPEATING hisworks much less SURPASSING THEM!

They DENY the Holy Spirit dwells in us (for they teach that the Holy Spirit is God and

then say that "man becomes one with God" is OCCULTISM). Without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit you can NEVER cease from sin! They have a "form of Godliness" but

deny the power (the Holy Spirit), God in us and we abiding in God through abiding inChrist.

That, my dear friends is the bottom line!

Shalom

Jeffrey D. Dean

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