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61(Bled/Secretariat)12June 2019

INTERNATIONAL ELECTROTECHNICAL COMMISSIONTECHNICAL COMMITTEE NO.61: SAFETY OF HOUSEHOLD AND SIMILAR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCESDaily Report for Friday, 7 June 2019

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6. IEC 60335-1: Household and similar electrical appliances – Safety – Part 1: General requirements6e. 61/5765/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5812/INF MT4, Clause 25.7Also taking into account 61(Bled/CNNC)22, 61(Bled/MT4)65The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5812A/INF

The comment compilation was not discussed during the meeting in Bled. The plan is for this topic to be discussed at the next meeting of TC 61 in Shanghai in October 2019.

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6f. 61/5764/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5811/INF Japan, Safety InstructionsAlso taking into account 61(Bled/CNNC)24The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5811A/INF


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16. IEC 60335-2-42 Particular requirements for commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens

61/5780/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5827/INF Japan, Warning signAlso taking into account 61(Bled/MT32)41The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5827A/INF


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19. IEC 60335-2-78: Particular requirements for outdoor barbeques 61/5763/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5810/INF MT4, Communal use barbequesThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5810A/INF


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20. IEC 60335-2-84: Particular requirements for toilet appliances 61/5749/CDV – Result of Voting 61/5846/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5846A/RVC

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Clause/ Subclause(e.g. 3.1)

Observations of the secretariat

1 NO01 Foreword Accepted

2 JP01 FOREWORD

Accepted

3 US01 NOS Noted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS

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21. IEC 60335-2-95: Particular requirements for drives for vertically moving garage doors for residential use61/5750/CDV – Result of Voting 61/5843/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(Bled/MT25)27The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5843A/RVC

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Clause/ Subclause Observations of the secretariat

1 FR01 Noted

2 DK01 Foreword Accepted

3 FR02 Foreword Accepted

4 US01 NOS Noted

5 FR03 1. Not accepted, but the word “drives” will be deleted from line 132

6 FR04 7.15 Accepted by adding at end of line 249: In addition, the marking relevant to name, trademark or identification mark, model, type reference can also be retrieved from a label (e.g. a QR code) visible on the appliance after installation.

7 FR05 19.13 Accepted

8 DK02 19.13 Accepted

9 FR06 19.13 Accepted; referred to EG1

10 FR07 Noted

11 FR08 19.13 Referred to the French expert on EG1




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22. IEC 60335-2-97: Particular requirements for drivers and shutters, awnings, blinds and similar equipment22a. 61/5773/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5820/INF Italy, Clause 20.104The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5820A/INF


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22b. 61/5781/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5828/INF France, Clause 22.56The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5828A/INF


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22c. 61/5751/CDV – Result of Voting 61/5842/RVC AmendmentAlso taking into consideration 61(Bled/MT25)28The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5842A/RVC

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1 FR01 Noted


3 FR03 7.15 Accepted



6 FR05 19.13 Accepted. Referred to EG1

7 FR06 Noted








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23. IEC 60335-2-103: Particular requirements for drives for gates, doors and windows61/5752/CDV – Result of Voting 61/5844/RVC Amendment Also taking into account 61(Bled/MT25)29The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5844A/RVC

MB/NC


1 FR01 Noted

2 DE01 Noted




6 FR04 11.7 See 5

7 US01 11.7 Accepted. See also 5 and 6.

8 US02 11.7 Not accepted. See the decision on comment 12 in 61/5678A/INF on 61/5621/DC

9 DE02 11.7 Not accepted but see 10

10 FR05 11.7 Accepted in principle. EG1 has misinterpreted the decision on comment 10 in 61/5678A/INF on 61/5621/DCAdd a new dashed item stating

Drives rated in cycles per hour are operated for 20% more than the rated number of cycles per hour and with the relevant rest period(s) declared by the manufacturer.

11 DK02 19.11.3 Accepted; referred to EG1

12 FR06 19.13 Accepted in principle. See 11

13 FR07 Noted






19 FR13 DD.20.107.1.2

Referred to the French expert on EG1


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24. IEC 60335-2-105: Particular requirements for multifunctional shower cabinets61/5753/CDV – Result of Voting 61/5845/RVC Amendment


The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5845A/RVC

MB/NC Clause/ Subclause Observations of the secretariat

1 DE01 Noted

2 US01 R.2.2.9 Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to publication

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25. IEC 60335-2-113: Particular requirements for cosmetic and beauty care appliances incorporating lasers and intense light sources61/5782/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5829/INF WG 30, Various as new amendmentThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5829A/INF

MB/NC


1 GB Noted

2 MY Noted

3 ZA Noted

4 NZ1 Accepted

5 NZ2 3.101 Accepted

6 DE 01 3.103 See 9

7 DE 02 3.103 See 9

8 DK01 3.103 See 9





13 DE 03 22.107 Not accepted

14 DK04 13.2 Not accepted15 NL01 13.2 Noted

16 DK05 13.101 See 18


18 NL02 13.101 Accepted

19 US1 21 Accepted

20 DK07 21.102 Not accepted

21 JP 21.102 See 20

22 NL03 21.102 See 20

23 NL04 21-102 Accepted

24 DE04 22.107 See 13




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27 DE 05 22.110 Accepted

28 DE 06 22.110 Accepted

29 NL05 24 Not accepted

30 DK10 24.2 See 29

DECISION: Proceed to CDV

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26. IEC 60335-2-115: Particular requirements for beauty care appliances 61/5788/CD – Compilation of Comments 61/5834/CC PT 60335-2-115, New Part 2 standardAlso taking into consideration 61(Bled/PT60335-2-115)19 and 61(Bled/MT4)64

The document 61/5834/CC was not discussed during the meeting. It was agreed that PT 60335-2-115 will review the comments received on 61/5788/CD in 61/5834/CC and during the EG1 meeting next week in Venice the convenor will update the draft new standard to be proposed as a 3 CD for discussion in Shanghai. The 3 CD will include those comments accepted by PT 60335-2-115 in 61(Bled/PT60335-2-115)19. The 3 CD will be submitted to the Secretariat by 30 June 2019 for circulation in time to be discussed at the meeting in Shanghai.

DECISION: PT 60335-2-115 will review the comments received on 61/5788/CD in 61/5834/CC and during the EG1 meeting next week in Venice will update the draft new standard to be proposed as a 3 CD for discussion in Shanghai. The 3 CD document will be submitted to the Secretariat by 30 June 2019 and will be circulated by the Secretariat on 5 July 2019 for an 8-week comment period.

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29. Questions of Interpretation

29a.1 Decisions related to the AG28 report “Inquiries” – [61(Bled/Chairman)02f]

Standard Clause(s) Reference

60335-1 19.11.4 – 19.13 BR 01

60335-1 19.5 UK 01

60335-1 22.44 CN 02

60335-1 22.44 CN 03

60335-1 22.56 CN 01

60335-1 25.2 CN 06

60335-1 29.2 CN 07

60335-2-9 1 CN 05


60335-2-14 20.2 FR 01

60335-2-23 10 CN 00

60335-2-30 20.101 CN 04

60335-2-31 30.101 IR 01

60335-1, 19.11.4-19.13 (BR01): Confirmed

60335-1, 19.5 (UK01): Confirmed

60335-1, 22.44 (CN02): Confirmed. Although this type of product is becoming increasingly common it does not meet the requirements of 22.44. However, it is recognized that TC 61 should review the requirement in light of products in the market and in development and also considering the activities of WG44 (robot vs. automated functions).

In addition it was agreed to add a note in the future A1 to 60335-1 to clarify that 22.44 does not apply to products where there is a toy shaped like the appliance (e.g. small hair dryers, small irons, without electrical parts).

60335-1, 22.44 (CN03): Confirmed

60335-1, 22.56 (CN01): Confirmed.

In addition, it is considered that 22.56 does not apply for the construction because the charging stand is not considered to be a detachable power supply unit.

60335-1, 25.2 (CN06): Confirmed

60335-1, 29.2 (CN07): Confirmed

60335-2-9, 1 (CN05): Confirmed

60335-2-14, 20.2 (FR01): Confirmed

60335-2-23, 10, (CN00): Confirmed

60335-2-30, 20.101 (CN04): Confirmed

60335-2-31, 30.101 (IR01): Confirmed

29a.2 Answers to questions from the CTL – [61(Bled/CTL Liaison person)02e]

The report was noted. The proposals of the CTL for each inquiry was discussed and the position of TC 61 on each of them was given.

Item Enquiry TC61 Comment1 1) Marking and instructions TC 61 agreed, but it was

clarified that the requirement for 7.12 will be clarified in the next edition of the standard in which it will be required: "Instructions shall be provided in hard copy form with the appliance so that the appliance can be used safely". Therefore, it is requested to not publish a CTL decision sheet


2) Exceptional cases of remote user functionality for not required to be manually adjust to setting for remote operation

TC 61 confirmed the decision made in Busan under CTL report item 3 “Possibility of unsafe operation to Washing machine & Tumble dryer with remote operation” Enquiry 2118: Washing machines and tumble dryers can be operated remotely but are not covered by the note to 22.51.

2 Review of the decision made in Busan meeting Q1: Clause 26 and Annex H of IEC 61558 series are exempted. But not BB4.2 which refers to 26.xx. This means that the following subclauses are applicable: 26.101 - 26.102 - 26.103 - 26.104 - 26.105 -26.106-26.107

Q2: TC 61 confirms3 Revisit of Enquiry “Connection between output circuit

and accessible metal parts or earthing terminal” which was more articulated for conclusion

SELV output shall not be earthed. As safety extra low voltage can be touched, supplementary insulation is necessary between the output and earth

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30. Report of EG1The report in 61(Bled/EG1)04 was noted and EG1 thanked for their activity which ensures a due harmonization and quality of the standards under TC61.

In addition and in this respect, the chairman thanked the full TC stating that the organization of the activity and the structure of the TC strongly contribute in the quality and coherence of text of all the standards (Part1 and all the Parts 2) under the responsibility of the TC.

This was appreciated by the TC which welcomed the statement with an applause.

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31. Reports of TC 61 Maintenance Teams, Project Teams, Working Groups and Ad-hoc Groups

Important announcement: Based on observations noted by participants, Mr. Gargantini reminded all groups (WG, MT, PT, etc) that, as agreed in the meeting in Toronto, efforts shall be made to have meetings arranged to strive for participation by all members from all areas of the world. While face to face meetings are beneficial depending on particular topics, web meetings are an efficient means for accomplishing the work of the group, as has been demonstrated recently by several MTs, PTs and WGs. When web meetings are held, the scheduled times need to rotate amongst the members given the time of day by time zone and shall not last no more than three hours to allow for equal participation by all members.

31a. Reports from TC 61 Maintenance Teams

MT 4 - Temperature limits, resistance to heat and fire, use of test probes and presence of children [61(Bled/MT4)63, 61(Bled/MT4)66]


The convenor, Mr. David Brière provided the report from MT 4. Regarding Commercial appliances used by the public, MT 4 requested feedback from TC 61 regarding which appliances, which may be within the scope of MT 32, 61B and 61C, could be used by the general public: toasters (-2-48), juicers (-2-64), microwaves (-2-90), refrigerators (-2-89), etc, so that MT 4 can prepare appropriate DCs. The understanding of MT 4, at this point, is that Note 101 in 2-48 suggests that appliances used by the general public are not within the scope of 2-48. Additionally, 2-9 says that if used professionally, that it is not covered in the scope. So, MT4 assumes that children are not present in commercial environments, including restaurant kitchens and farms; however, it has been noted that children are often in these environments, helping the family business, starting work (such as milking cows) at early ages, etc. Should probe 18 be required in these environments?

It was agreed that when children use an appliance in commercial environments as directed by their parent, this is not a typical situation and does not mean the standard should consider such appliances to be used in an area open to the public. Therefore for appliances used in areas not open to be public and where the children can access/use an appliance directed by parents or careers, probe 18 is not required.

Regarding the MT 4 proposal for 2-115, the proposal will be considered in the 3 CD being drafted by PT 60335-2-115.

The remainder of the report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 15 - Electrically heated blankets and similar appliances No report was provided from MT 15.

MT 16 - Biological effects of optical radiation [61(Bled/MT16)45]MT 16 identified an inaccuracy in wording in 61/5735/CDV and its precursors. The correction for sub-clause 32.2 was referred to EG1 to correct the text to state “Appliances shall not present an optical radiation risk”.

A decision will be made on whether to transfer 60335-2-113 from WG 30 to MT 16 once WG 30 completes its work on amendment 1 of 60335-2-113. If the decision is confirmed at that time, those members of WG 30 who are interested in joining the work of MT 16 should submit their interest.

The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 23 - Functional safety related aspects of electronic circuits, remote control of household appliances and insulation co-ordination [61(Bled/MT23)18]The convenor, Mr. Bern Gehrke provided the report from MT 23. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 25 – Electric drives for gates, doors, windows, shutters, awnings, blinds and similar equipment [61(Bled/MT25)26]MT 23 member Mr. Per Dalgas-Madsen provided the report from MT 25. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 26 – Safety of electric toys [61(Bled/MT26)68]The convenor Mr. Gert Bukkjaer provided the report and was thanked for the work of the MT.

MT 32 - Electrical commercial catering equipment [61(Bled/MT32)40]The convenor, Mr. Gargantini provided the report from MT 32. The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

MT 46 – Kitchen machines [61(Bled/MT46)34]The convenor, Michelle Andersen provided the report from MT 46. The scope of the MT was confirmed to apply to the requirements in 60335-2-114.


The report was noted, and the MT is thanked for their ongoing work.

31b. Reports of Project Teams

PT 2-115 – Particular requirements for beauty care appliances [61(Bled/PT2-115)43]The convenor, Ms. Wendy Huang provided the report from PT 2-115. See also agenda item 26 for the next steps to be taken in drafting a 3 CD for 2-115.

The report was noted, and the PT is thanked for their ongoing work.

PT 2-119 – Particular requirements for vacuum packaging machines As the PT was only formed at this meeting, the convenor, Mr. Gargantini did not have a need to provide a report at this time.

31c. Report of Working Groups

WG 30 - Cosmetic and beauty appliances incorporating lasers and intense light sources No report was provided by WG 30.

WG 31 - IEC 60335-1 – Batteries [ 61(Bled/WG31)47]The convenor, Mr. Dinand Van Aalderen provided the report from WG 44. It was agreed that with the approaching publication of Annex B in 60335-1 Ed 6, the WG will be transformed to an MT and 60335-2-29 will be included in the scope of the new MT. The decision will be confirmed at the meeting in Shanghai.

In addition, the new MT will review Annex A of 2-29 to address use by children as detailed in the report of MT 4 in 61(Bled/MT4)63 to bring Annex AA’s requirements into the body as the default and then make exclusions for various things like automotive chargers.

The report was noted, and the WG is thanked for their ongoing work.

WG 39 - Exposure to light emitted by LEDs in appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-6 and IEC 60335-2-31 No report was provided by WG 39.

WG 40 - Fires on dishwashers and other wet household appliances [61(Bled/WG40)57, 61(Bled/WG40)55, 61(Bled/WG40)56], 61(Bled/WG40)57, 61(Bled/WG40)77]The convenor, Mr. Bruno Reiter provided the report from WG 40. In light of the proposal planned for 2-5 as shown in 61(Bled/WG40)55, the stability date for the standard will need to be extended to 2022 to give to the WG40, sufficient time to discuss and finalise proposals for all detected sources of fire. In addition, Mr. Reiter expressed interest in adding experts having ITE expertise.


WG 44 – Service robot appliances for household and similar use [61(Bled/WG44)67]The convenor, Mr. Dejun Ma provided the report from WG 44. The report was noted, and the WG is thanked for their ongoing work. It was also noted that a first draft of the new Part 2 was prepared by the WG44 and was enclosed to the report. The TC, following the advice of the WG44, considered that the draft Part 2 is not yet duly finalized and needs further discussion in the WG44. At the Shanghai meeting, when the activity would have progressed further, it will be decided if a New Project shall be opened and the draft will have to be circulated to NCs for comments.

WG 47 – Fires in tumble dryers [61(Bled/WG47)78]The convenor, Mr. Gianluca Cecchinato, provided the report from WG 47. Regarding fire hazard on tumble dryers, four main root causes were identified: capacitors, PCBs, self combustion, and


fluff accumulation. Mr. Cecchinato explained that proposals will eventually be developed as a result of the work of WG 47, including that proposals may be needed for Part 1.


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32. Reports of TC 61 Subcommittees

SC 61B – Safety of microwave appliances for household and commercial use [61(Bled/SC61B)35]In the absence of representatives from SC 61B, Mr. Gargantini reviewed the report. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61B thanked.

SC 61C – Safety of refrigeration appliances for household and commercial use [61(Bled/SC61C)42, 61(Bled/Secretariat)75]The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61C thanked.

The subject of the appeal submitted by the Malaysian National Committee was discussed with the delegates and with the chairman and secretary of SC61C participating in web conference. The document 61(Bled/Secretariat)75 was circulated prior to the discussion on Friday 7 June 2019 to allow delegates to be familiar with the details relating to the appeal submitted by the Malaysian NC. On Friday, the delegates were asked if they are agreeable to discussing the appeal and taking a vote on the question posed. TC 61 unanimously approved to proceed with a vote on the following question, as all information was provided in the document submitted and further clarification was given by the TC 61 chairman at the meeting and this will allow to take an informed decision during the meeting.

Question: Did Malaysian NC provide technical reasons with their negative vote on 61C/792/FDIS as reported in 61C/796A/RVD?

The voting results were as follows:

Vote Yes Vote Abstain Vote NoAustralia 1Austria 1 Canada 1China 1

Denmark 1Finland 1France 1

Germany 1Ireland 1Italy 1Japan 1

Republic of Korea 1Mexico 1

Netherlands 1New Zealand 1

Norway 1Poland 1Slovenia 1

South Africa 1Spain 1

Sweden 1


Turkey 1United Kingdom 1

United States of America 1 0 5 19

24 Voting P-Members

P-Members not present: Albania, Belgium, Czech Republic, Egypt, Greece, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Israel, Malaysia, Pakistan, Philippines, Portugal, Serbia, Switzerland, Thailand, Ukraine, Vietnam

TC 61 Decision: The Malaysian NC did not provide technical reasons with their negative vote in 61C/796A/RVD. Therefore, and in accordance with Directives Part 1, 2.7.3, TC 61 rejected the appeal from Malaysian NC to have their negative vote accepted. The TC 61 Secretariat will inform the Malaysian NC immediately.

TC 61 rationale for the decision taken: 1) The Malaysian NC identified the comments as “Ed”2) Malaysian Comment on clause 1 was not accompanied by a proposed change3) Malaysian Comment on 6.101, where it is stated that climate classes are not

referred to in the standard, is not correct: the term test room climate classes is used and referred to in 5.7 and in 11.8

The Secretariat responded to the appeal from the Malaysian NC on Friday, June 7th.

Furthermore, during the discussion TC 61 also noticed that based on 2.7.3 of Directives Part 1, the Serbian NC vote should have been excluded for the following reasons:

1) The Type of Comment (ge, ed or te) was not identified for any of the Serbian NC comments

2) A proposed change was not provided for any of the Serbian NC comments

In addition, TC 61 decided to include in the report to the SMB the following question of principle: who is in charge of assessing if technical reasons are provided with a negative vote?

TC 61 also invites the SMB to ensure that the IEC voting system does not allow a NC to provide comments where the Type of Comment is not identified and without providing a proposed change, when there is a technical comment.

SC 61D – Appliances for air-conditioning for household and similar purposes [61(Bled/SC61D)25]In the absence of representatives from SC 61D Mr. Gargantini reviewed the report. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61D thanked.

SC 61H – Safety of electrically-operated farm appliances [61(Bled/SC61H)49]. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61H thanked.

SC 61J – Electrical motor-operated cleaning appliances for commercial use [61(Bled/SC 61J)62]In the absence of representatives from SC 61J Mr. Gargantini reviewed the report. The report was noted and the secretary and chair of SC 61J thanked.

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33. Proposed agenda for the next meeting – [61(Bled/Secretariat)05] The draft Shanghai agenda was noted. The following documents not discussed during the meeting in Bled will be moved to Shanghai: 6e, 6f, 16, 19, 22a, and 22b.


Regarding the due dates for documents relating to the meeting in Shanghai, refer to 61(Bled/Secretariat)05.

Proposals for DCs for the Shanghai agenda will be accepted up to 14 June 2019 DCs released on Friday 21 June 2019 Closing date for comments will be 16 August 2019

Document DeadlineTC 61 meeting – 2019-10-21 to 2019-10-25 – Shanghai (CN) IEC GMCut-off date for receipt of DCs for discussion in Shanghai 2019-06-14Release date for DCs 2019-06-21Preliminary agenda 2019-06-21Comment close date on DCs 2019-08-16INFs and revised agenda issued 2019-09-06

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34. Update the TC 61 Program of Work as recorded by IEC Central OfficeThe Program of Work was noted.

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35. Review of stability dates – [61(Bled/Secretariat)06]Stability Date for 60335-2-5, 60335-2-41, 60335-2-56, 60335-2-108 extend to 2022

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36. Review of liaisons [61(Bled/TC89 Liaison)50, 61(Bled/TC69-TC149-ISOTC22 Liaison)72]1) A-Liaison: Consumers International (CI)Approved to continue.

2) Technical committee Liaisons:IEC SC 3C – Approved to continueIEC/SC 21A – Approved to continueIEC/SC 23G – Approved to continue IEC/SC 23J – Approved to continueIEC SC 34A – Approved to continueIEC/TC 35 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 66 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 69 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 72 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 76 – Approved to continueIEC/SC 77A – Approved to continue IEC/TC 85 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 89 – Approved to continue IEC/TC 101 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 108 – Approved to continueIEC/TC 116 – Approved to continueISO TC 22/SC38 – Type B liaison (Mode 4) Approved to continue ISO TC149/SC1 – Type B liaison (Mode 4) Approved to continue ISO 291 as a liaison Type B liaison (Mode 1) Approved to continueSyC AAL Active Assisted Living – Approve to continue

Report from TC 89 Liaison [ 61(Bled/TC89 Liaison)50] Ms. Silvia Togni presented the report as the TC 89 Liaison. It was noted that with regard to fire containment as noted in the report, MT 4 would likely have interest in the work of TC 89 in this area.


Ms. Togni was thanked, and the report was noted.

Report from TC 69, TC149, ISO/TC22 Liaisons [ 61(Bled/TC69-TC149-ISOTC22 Liaison)72] Mr. Gargantini provided the report for the Liaisons. The liaisons were thanked, and the report was noted.

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37. Review of P-member participationDocument 615805/INFThe participation of P members in 61/5805/INF was reviewed. Based on the appeal submitted by the Malaysian NC it was agreed to ensure that P-members are reminded of the requirement to participate in the work of the committee. For this reason, it was decided to send a reminder to those NCs that have not participated in two consecutive meetings and those NCs where no experts are participating WG/MT/PT. The following NCs will be notified:

Albania, Egypt, Greece, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Malaysia, Pakistan, Republic of Philippines, Portugal, Serbia, Thailand, Ukraine, Vietnam

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38. Review of the Strategic Business Plan61/5774/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/5821/INF The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/5821A/INF

MB/NC


1 ZA01 Noted

2 CI/ANEC01

Noted

3 CI/ANEC02

Section D In principle the interest of less able persons is already considered by the committee when developing standards under its responsibility (e.g. temperature of accessibility surfaces, legibility of signals indicating operating functions).

DECISION: No update is needed for the SBP

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39. Any other businessRevisiting the discussion of 60335-2-41, Particular requirements for pumps and 61/5612/DC and 61/5669/INF during the meeting in Busan, it was agreed that TC 61 should contact TC 64 to request their expertise regarding touch voltage on submersible pumps for use in swimming pools when persons, including children, are fully immersed in the pool. In particular, the discussion concentrated on the risks that may arise considering the fact that swimming pools in which submersible pumps are intended to be installed may also use salt water and a person, including children, is fully immersed in the swimming pool for long time that may be, in exceptional cases, of some hours. The question to be answered was: considering the operating conditions mentioned above, can a limit of 30Vd.c. be permitted to avoid the risks of electric shock and of partial paralysis or hypo muscular tension for the persons and children in the swimming pool?

The response from Mr. Jacques Peronnet, TC 64 Chair, was that IEC 61140 is the basic safety publication to apply for the protection against electric shock in equipment. In the latest edition published in 2016, Clause 5.2.6 states that the limit is 6 V a.c. r.m.s. or 15 V ripple-free d.c. in all other cases than when the equipment is normally used in dry locations only and large-area contact


of live parts with the human body is not to be expected. As you are not in dry condition, the limit is 15V DC.

In addition, the current flowing in the body depends on many parameters as the wet or dry conditions, the presence of salt water, and the surface of contact. If the limits of IEC 61140:2016 will be exceeded, use IEC 60479 to determine the exact value (not exceeding the limit of ELV) based on the intended external conditions and the path of current and the surface of contact.

It was decided to keep the requirements in 2-41 as is given considering that, based on the answer received from TC61, the potential change in the standard is not significant.

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40. Date and place of next meeting The next meeting of TC 61 will be during the IEC General Meeting in Shanghai on 21 – 25 October. Ms. Shengnan Ma of the Chinese NC shared a video presentation regarding the 2019 IEC General Meeting in Shanghai. In addition, she provided an overview of the meeting in Shanghai, stating that the CN NC has been planning for the meeting for two years in order to provide a successful experience for delegates involved with the important work of the IEC. She also mentioned that the CN NC is honoured to host the General Meeting in 2019, and expressed a sincere welcome to the Shanghai General Meeting. The invitation from CN NC and the introduction by Ms. Ma were welcomed by TC 61 with acclamation.

Mr. Gargantini announced that TC 61 received an invitation from the Korean NC to meet in May 2020. Mr. Sihyun Nam / Mr. Jongnam Uhm, KR NC confirmed the meeting dates are 25-29 May 2020. The invitation of KR NC was enthusiastically accepted.

It was also acknowledged that an invitation for the first meeting of 2020 was also received from the Danish NC. Mr. Gargantini expressed regret that the invitation from the DK NC could not be considered as the invitation from Korean NC was received first and accepted prior to receiving the invitation from Ms. Pernille Tebina. Mr. Gargantini asked if there might be a possibility that the Danish NC would be able to invite TC 61 for the first meeting of 2021.

Regarding the second meeting of 2021, the Chair explained that TC 61 was not invited to meet during the General Meeting in Stockholm. However, the Swedish NC would still like to host TC 61 in 2021 and is presently working with the officers of TC 61 to identify alternate dates at the end of October or beginning of November 2021 for TC 61 to meet in Sweden. The SE NC has advised that it may not be possible to host all interested SCs, WGs, MTs, etc for this meeting in 2021, even if this is still under evaluation.

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41. Close of meetingThe Chair thanked the National Committee of Slovenia for hosting the meeting in Bled. In particular, Mr. Danilo Kraner was thanked for arranging a perfect meeting in a beautiful location; his support was greatly appreciated. The Chair further thanked the delegates for their participation and contributions for a positive meeting throughout the full meeting time. He thanked the Vice-Chair (Mr. Dejun Ma) and the Secretary (Ms. Randi Myers) for their support during the meeting. Mr. Christophe Boyer, IEC Technical Officer, was thanked for his attendance, support and contributions.

Mr. MacConnacher congratulated the chair on leading a successful and productive meeting and provided thanks to the other officers as well.


Mr. MacConnacher also announced that this would be his last meeting of IEC TC 61. He noted that he has been participating since 1991. Mr. MacConnacher stated he will remain involved in MT4 and EG1 activities for 12-18 months. Mr. MacConnacher received a round of applause for his years of contributions. Mr. Gargantini thanked Mr. MacConnacher for his many years of participation on IEC TC 61 and wished Stuart good luck in the future.

Mr. Gargantini then closed the meeting at 5:30 PM.

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END OF DISCUSSION FOR 7 JUNE 2019

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