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A monthly publication of the New Zealand Antique and Historic Arms Association (Wellington Branch) Incorporated
Website: http://www.WellingtonAntiqueArms.org.nz September 2018
Coming Events:
Next Meeting: 2 Sept 2018 Theme Letters: M and N
Following Meeting: 7 Oct 2018 Theme Letters: O and P
Kaitoke Range: Club Shoot: 16th Sept Practice Day
Contacts:
Branch President: Alwyn Telephone: 04-526-6391 [email protected]
Branch Vice President: Vic Telephone: 04-566-9739 Email: [email protected]
Branch Secretary Margaret Telephone 04-237-5471 [email protected]
Flint & Cap Editor: Tony Telephone: 021-289-8831 [email protected]
Branch Auction Convenor: Steve Telephone: 04-934-2756 [email protected]
Branch Treasurer: Margaret Telephone: 04-237-5471 [email protected]
Branch Committee: Glenn Telephone: 04-586-9454
Email: [email protected]
Steve
Telephone: 04-934-2756 Email: [email protected]
Rex
Telephone 04-569-3169 Email: [email protected]
Ray B Telephone 04-237-5471
Email: [email protected]
NZAHAA National Office: President: Andrew Telephone: 027 338 0840 Email: [email protected]
National Secretary: Katrina Address: P O Box 694, Rangiora 7440 Telephone: 021 443 509 (after6) Email: [email protected]
From the Branch President:
Shooting. With the Winter almost over and the arrival of Spring (with warmer weather and longer daylight hours), we are shortly to restart our shooting program for 2018. Our next shooting day will be a practice day on Sunday 16th Sept at the Kaitoke Deerstalkers Range, starting at 9am. Things to remember to bring: warm clothing, boots, ear and eye protection and of course your shooting gear. Note that it is important that you abide by the new rules and speed restriction on the walkway road. Don’t exceed 20km/h and have your headlights on when driving.
Museum visit. Terry A. has kindly organized a visit to the Dominion Museum to see the Great War Exhibition Anzac displays and trench tour. As a club, we are going to subsidize the visit to this event to members. However we do need names and your deposit of $20 per member to be paid at the September meeting. The museum visit is set for Sunday 14th October.
And lastly, it is with sadness that we report the passing of Alan Walker from the Hawkes Bay branch. Alan was well known as their branch secretary, and had held that role for thirty odd years. He was a keen collector, and was a regular postal bid-der in our branch auctions. Alan was known on occasions to have a sharp tongue, and certainly would stir authorities if he felt they needed a wee tickle up. He will be missed from the NZAHAA scene.
Alwyn
What’s happening in the Branch?:
Our Next Meeting: 2nd September 2018 in the Petone Working Mens Club. Starts from 1pm
Theme Letters: M— Mauser, Magnum, Mortar, etc N— Nagant, Naval, Night-Vision, etc Or bring along a favourite item
1 September Ruahine Branch Auction Palmerston North
22 September NZAHAA 1/2 Year Meeting Whangarei
1 October Great War Exhibition visit Wellington
3-4 November Taranaki Branch Gun Show New Plymouth
10-11 November Armistice in Cambridge Cambridge
Flint & Cap
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‘Great War Exhibition’ Visit on 14th Oct
A quick reminder please. If you change physical address, phone number or your email address. PLEASE LET THE BRANCH KNOW! Please contact our Secretary (Margaret) at: [email protected]
Change of Address and Email
As was mentioned in the last meeting, the Branch is planning a visit to the ’Great War Exhibition’ at the old Museum at 1:30pm on the 14th Oct. And at the last meeting a fair few of you put your hands up as being interesting in joining in this visit. The normal charge to enter is: $15 to the Main Exhibition. Or $40 for ‘The Quinn’s Post Trench Experience Combo’. The Branch will subsidise this visit (to members only) to the tune of $20 per head for the ‘Trench Experience Combo’. Other non-members may join us when we do the visit, however they will need to pay the full price. Anyone wanting to join us on this visit must sign up at our September meeting, and pay your $20 to reserve your place.
Note that the next Range Day for the branch will be the
16th September.
This will be a Practice Day
While you think about it…. Check the Expiry Date of your Firearms Licence
Next Range Day—16th September
Firearms Licence Numbers
New Online Firearms Tests
Christmas Lunch—11th Nov
Andrew recently attended a meeting at Police National Headquarters. Aside from the business discussions they were given some interesting statistics on NZ firearms licenses. Here’s how the numbers stack up: Total current firearm licence holders 246,526 Total licences with firearm endorsements 9,976, (many licence holders have multiple endorsements). Broken down by endorsement we have: B cat 4289 C cat 4147 E cat 7375 Dealers 490 ish. That is a lot of people owning and using MSSA type firearms, which certainly gives clear validation of MSSA’s within the firearms community (as if there was any doubt). There are also a lot of collectors (including heirloom licences). So, where are they all? Get them looking at this newsletter and bring them into our meetings!
With the AA now doing the Firearms Theory testing, the question was asked if there were any practice tests available for new applicants. The good news is that the Police have included some sample modules within their web site. These should help to give you an idea of the type of questions you can expect to face on the day. Also, this is a good opportunity for us old dogs to do a little revision and see if we really are as clever as we may think we are. The other obvious thing to study is the Arms Code, this is a vital document and it contains some great practical safety advice. It’s worth keeping a copy on hand for reference. Follow the link below and test yourself! (Note: there were 3 x separate 10 question tests available to try) http://www.police.govt.nz/…/firea…/firearms-safety-elearning
This is advance notice of the November meetings.
There will be NO meeting on the first Sunday of November!
The November meeting will be the
Christmas Lunch,
and will be held on the 11th Nov (the second Sunday).
This is the day that the cream of your displays come out.
This date is also the 100 year Anniversary of Armistice Day,
and it would be nice to see lots of WW1 themed displays.
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August Meeting - K and L
The August 5th meeting had the theme of K and L.
We had 24 displays brought along giving a massive
range of unique and interesting items to look at.
Many thanks again to all the members who brought
such great items along.
Luger 9mm P08
1908 models.
2 x Army 4” and
an artillery 8”
with holsters
Light Machine Guns – .303 Brens Mk I & II
Plus mag loaders and training pamphlets
A Cross Belt Chain,
Whistle & lions Head.
Bought at the last auction.
Isaac Hollis .450 No.1 1 ½ cartridge Martini Kangaroo
Cartridge rifle
Street sign from Karori,- Flers Street, named after the French
town destroyed in the Battle of the Somme Sept 1916
Nothing Special? Not just a pair of 1924 Lithgow SMLE’s.
A unique pair with consecutive receiver serial numbers!
B9999 and B10000
French Foreign Legion Kepis:
Private (white), Sargent (black), Sargent Major, Captain
and a tan kepi (trialed and rejected by the Legion)
Long large double Damascus barrelled percussion shotgun
by Jas Mortimer, marked ‘Superior Quality’.
36” barrel and weighs 11 ¾ lbs
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Aug Meeting Continued - K and L
WW1 NZ Mounted Rifles Lance Pennant 1917, inscribed.
With holes from bomb explosion at Mazar Sinai
Steyr LP1 .177 cal 10m ISSF target CO2 powered air pistol,
(This particular pistol was used to win a Bronze Medal at the
1994 Commonwealth Games; and still has the period event
stickers on it)
Kozuka. All purpose utility knife.
Usually carried in a pocket on the side of a Japanese
sword
Browning-Lathi in 9x19mm,
Long Range pistol-carbine by Arsenal Arms in 9x19mm, Lever Gun – Mod 71 in .348 cal
1884 Norwegian Krag-Jorgensen rifle made by Kongsberg
Vapenffabrik in 6x55mm cal with target and information
Keltech Arms 12 Pump action 15 round magazine shot gun
Japanese Army NCO sword type 95, introduced in 1935
Jongmans rifles for the serious NZ shooter,
In .243 at the top, and .22 below –
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Aug Meeting Continued - K and L
Long Toms: Enfield 1890 (Metford), BSA 1896 and Enfield 1892
New items won at the auction, 1 x Powder measure
and a capper/decapper and crimper. No makers name.
WW2 NZ made fighting knives – Local Patterns
LEC88 NZ - the iconic NZ Carbine (One of only 1500 made).
Fitted with a model 1888 bayonet.
This rifle is from the 2nd batch dated 1894-1903.
Displayed on NZ flag and with a LEC88 book
Knives – all sorts and types
Gurkha Kukri fighting knife which is broad arrow marked
Klashnikov memorabilia,
Born-10/11/1919, Died- 23/12/2013.
Shown is his signature, and medals from his 70th birthday
and the 40-Years of Service of the AK47.
KA-Bar knife – SAS presentation knife
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The Battle Rifle Cabinet Handles
WW1 Library Poster
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Fairbairn–Sykes Fighting Knives
The Shanghai knife on which The F-S was based was only about 5.5 in (14 cm) long in the blade.
First pattern knives have a 6.5 in (17 cm) blade with a flat area, or ricasso, at the top of the blade which was not present on the original design (and the presence of which has not been explained by the manufacturers). Note the S-shaped crossguard.
Second-pattern knives have a slightly longer blade (just less than 7” (18 cm)), 2 in (5.1 cm), a wide oval crossguard, knurled pattern grip, and rounded ball, and may be stamped "ENGLAND" (a US legal requirement when importing the surplus knives after WWII, as they had to show the country of origin) on the handle side of the cross guard. Some may also be stamped with a "Broad Arrow" /|\ British issue mark and a number (e.g., 21) on the opposite handle side of the cross guard.
Third-pattern knives also have a similarly sized seven-inch blade, but the handle was redesigned to be a ringed grip. This ringed grip is reputed to have distressed one of the original designers as it unbalanced the weapon and made harder to hold when wet, but it was used by the manufacturers as it was simple to produce and could be cast from a cheaper and more plentiful alloy instead of using up scarce quantities of brass stock which were, of course, required for ammunition casings and other such vital applications.
William Rodgers, as part of the Egginton Group, now also produce an all-black "sterile" version of the knife, which is devoid of any markings showing maker for NATO use.
Many people admire the Fairbairn-Sykes (F-S)fighting knives, but how many know what their history is, or what types are out there? Firstly, there were two designers: William Ewart Fairbairn ( 28 Feb1885 – 20 June 1960) He was a British Royal Marine
and police officer. He developed hand-to-hand combat methods for the Shanghai Police during the interwar period, as well as for the allied special forces during WW2. He created his own fighting system known as Defendu.
Notably, this included innovative pistol shooting techniques and the development of the F-S Fighting Knife Eric Anthony Sykes (5 Feb 1883– 12 May 1945), (born Eric Anthony Schwabe) Born in Barton-upon-Irwell, in England. He was a soldier and firearms expert. He is most famous for his work with Fairbairn in the
development of the F-S Fighting Knife and mod-ern British Close Quar-ters Battle (CQB) martial arts during World War II. Originally working for an import/export company selling weapons in East Asia, he claimed he
volunteered for and served in the British Army as a sharpshooter on the Western Front during World War I. Returning to China in 1917, he joined the volunteer branch of the Shanghai Municipal Police (SMP) Specials with the rank of Inspector in 1926. Together these two men also wrote the book ‘Shooting to Live’
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The Wagon Box Fight
On August 2, 1867. THE WAGON BOX FIGHT occurred near Fort Phil Kearny (in present day Wyoming.) Around 7:30am Red Cloud and Crazy Horse led 1,000 Sioux against Captain
J.W. Powell's 26 infantrymen and six woodcutters. Powell and his men circled their 15 wagons and from this defensive position they repulsed three Indian charges.
WW1 Recruiting Poster
AK47 Jumper Leads
The breech loading Allin breech loading conversion rifles that Powell's men had were a distinct advantage over the muzzle loaders Red Cloud believed the army were using.
(The Springfield Model 1866 was the second iteration of the Allin-designed trapdoor breech-loading mechanism. Originally developed as a means of converting rifled muskets to breech-loaders. The Allin modification later became the basis for the Model 1873, the first breech-loading rifle adopted by the US War Department for widespread issue to U.S. troops.) Around 1PM the Indians at last fell back into the hills, when the fort's howitzer was heard in the distance, and Maj. Benjamin Smith approached with a relief force of 100 men. Powell lost only seven men, and three were wounded. Official army estimates counted 60 Indians killed and 120 wounded. Red Cloud said that he lost the" flower of his fighting youth" that day.
Memorial to the fight
