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FINDING A HOME: A STUDENT’S PERSPECTIVE TO CHOOSING LAB ROTATIONS & A MENTOR August 19, 2013 repared by: mie Eisfeld (MVM) manda Boehm (Pathology) ake Hughes (MVM) J Rubenstein (BMG) obb Tomko (Pharmacology) illarie Plessner (Immunology) . Brooke McClendon (MGDB) mily Wickline (CMP) ilary Stevenson (MP) Hilary Stevenson and T. Brooke McClendon

FINDING A HOME: A STUDENT’S PERSPECTIVE TO CHOOSING LAB ROTATIONS & A MENTOR August 19, 2013 Prepared by: Amie Eisfeld (MVM) Amanda Boehm (Pathology) Jake

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FINDING A HOME: A STUDENT’S PERSPECTIVE TO CHOOSING LAB ROTATIONS & A MENTOR

August 19, 2013

Prepared by:Amie Eisfeld (MVM)Amanda Boehm (Pathology)Jake Hughes (MVM)VJ Rubenstein (BMG)Robb Tomko (Pharmacology)Hillarie Plessner (Immunology)T. Brooke McClendon (MGDB)Emily Wickline (CMP)Hilary Stevenson (MP)

Hilary Stevenson and T. Brooke McClendon

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Always keep in mind…

Everyone has an agenda

Communication is leadership

You are your best advocate

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Before you start looking

Assess what’s important to you What qualities did you admire in past

mentors? What qualities didn’t you like? In what environments do you work best? Hobbies/recreational activities Family/friends/partner What might you be interested in doing after

graduation?

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Lab Rotations

Three options for finding a good home Take your time deciding (but not too much

time) Not every rotation is going to turn out

perfectly

Choose rotations that will help you reach your career goals (or teach you a new technique) (or let you work with someone/something

exciting) “You think you know what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.”

Tara, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, “Restless”

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Step 1. Look around

Websites IBGP website (www.gradbiomed.pitt.edu) Program websites Pubmed

Ask around 1st year advisors Program directors Grad students

Attend seminars/research in progress

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Getting around

University of Pittsburgh Shuttles

UPMC shuttles

Port Authority Buses (www.portauthority.org)

Bike (http://bike-pgh.org/campaigns/commuter-bike-maps/)

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During your search

Be OPEN MINDED Projects outside your comfort zone Different programs Other buildings

Be REALISTIC Reasons for rotating Commute time

“I work from midnight to eight, come home, sleep for five minutes, eat breakfast, sleep six more minutes, shower…

then I'm off to the power plant, fresh as a daisy.”

Homer Simpson, The Simpsons, “Lisa’s pony.”

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Step 2. Set up a meeting

E-mail (more than 3 PIs)

Face-to-face meeting

Send thank you e-mails afterwards

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Preparing for the meeting

Be familiar with their research – do your homework Come with questions Come with proposal(s) Come with an air of excitement

Be prepared to sell yourself and talk about your lab experiences Potential is more important than experience

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At the meeting

ASK QUESTIONS. LOTS OF QUESTIONS. Project options: Can your rotation project turn

into a thesis project? Mentoring experience/mentoring philosophy Their expectations for you/your expectations

for them Is there a spot/funding for you? Travel schedule/availability Who will you be working with? Are they tenured or up for tenure soon? Program affiliation

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Step 3. Check out the lab

Talk to everyone in the lab! Especially grad students

Pay attention to nonverbal cues

Note available resources and space Quality and quantity of equipment People are resources too! Will you have a desk and bench?

Talk to program directors They know if there were issues before“It’s 12:02 [am], just me and you – and seven other dudes – waiting

for the centrifuge.”Most Beautiful Girl in the Lab (Flight of the Conchords parody),

youtube

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Transitioning into a lab

Learn where common equipment/consumables/ reagents are

Read protocols and understand the principle behind each step Helps with troubleshooting and finding

shortcuts

Be mindful of others’ time and resources Plan ahead and schedule help if needed Ask informed questions

Goal: become independent as quickly as possible

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Be stupid

“One of the beautiful things about science is that it allows us to bumble along, getting it wrong time after time, and feel perfectly fine as long as we learn something each time. No doubt, this can be difficult for students who are accustomed to getting the answers right. No doubt, reasonable levels of confidence and emotional resilience help, but I think scientific education might do more to ease what is a very big transition: from learning what other people once discovered to making your own discoveries. The more comfortable we become with being stupid, the deeper we will wade into the unknown and the more likely we are to make big discoveries.”

MA Schwartz. J Cell Sci (2008) 121:1771

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Ideal Lab (…Is Different For Everyone)

Funding for supplies (at least for your project)

Technique gurus

The opportunity to share your data and have it critiqued

Right environment for you

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Warning signs

High turnover rate, students rotate but don’t join

Grad students and postdocs have been there awhile with little to show for it

You find yourself making excuses “I don’t get along with my PI/lab mates, but that will

change when I join the lab.” “If I just work harder, things will get better.”

Your PI downplays your needs and your input

It’s difficult to communicate with your PI well when things go wrong

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If you haven’t found a lab to join

DON’T do nothing

TALK to an advisor/gets lots of advice from professors you trust

Don’t be afraid to switch rotations, even at the last minute

Think very carefully about what you are looking for and be proactive

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Part 2. Project

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Part 2. Project

Project options Risk vs. reward

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Is the project reasonable?

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Is the project reasonable?

1. Look up papers in the field. How many authors are on the papers?

2. Are all the papers coming out of one or two labs?

3. How much optimization is required?4. Will this project win the Nobel Prize?

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Is the project reasonable?

1. Look up papers in the field. How many authors are on the papers?

2. Are all the papers coming out of one or two labs?

3. How much optimization is required?4. Will this project win the Nobel Prize?

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Is the project reasonable?

1. Look up papers in the field. How many authors are on the papers?

2. Are all the papers coming out of one or two labs?

3. How much optimization is required?4. Will this project win the Nobel Prize?

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Is the project reasonable?

1. Look up papers in the field. How many authors are on the papers?

2. Are all the papers coming out of one or two labs?

3. How much optimization is required?4. Will this project win the Nobel Prize?

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Part 2. Project

Project options Risk vs. reward

Back up projects

Publications and meetings

Collaborations in and out of the lab

“In my rotation, you said guaranteed/One year first author is all I would need/But you just lied/Lied, lied, lied,

but you just lied.”I

“Bad Project”, Zheng lab (Baylor College of Medicine), youtube

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Part 1. The Mentor

What type of relationship “Hands-on” vs. “Hands-off” What do you need to work best?

Travel schedule and availability

Time commitment Policy on vacations, weekends, classes

Past mentoring experience Previous grad students? How long were they

there and what are they doing now?

Publications and meetings

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Part 3. Funding

Can he/she pay my bills? Short-term Long-term

RePORTER (http://projectreporter.nih.gov/reporter.cfm)

Predoctoral Fellowships NRSAs (individual) NIH Training Grants (university)

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If there is trouble…

Step 1: Talk to your mentor or a PI you trust

Step 2: Consult your program director

Step 3: Talk to Dr. Horn

THERE ARE ALWAYS OPTIONS!

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Anticipating change

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Transitioning into grad school Your first semester is especially challenging, but it

won’t stay that way

You will probably feel mediocre/pathetic/stupid/ill-prepared/alone/lost/etc…it’s normal and it’s not true

It is possible to invest a lot of time into something that doesn’t work

Sometimes, no one knows the answer

Be proud of your challenges…they build character

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Helpful reading

At the Bench: a laboratory navigator. Kathy Barker

MA Schwartz. “The importance of stupidity in scientific research.” J Cell Sci (2008) 121:1771

K Powell. “When personalities clash.” Nature (2006) 439:758.

K Powell. “Mentoring mismatch.” Nature (2006) 440:964

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Questions?

Hilary Stevenson [email protected]

Brooke McClendon [email protected]