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2018 OFFICERS President: Charles Spooner (505) 886-0336 e-mail: spoonernote@gmail.com Vice Presidents: Larry Dyer (505) 821-5324 e-mail: larrybarb21@gmail.com John Gibbs (505) 401-9459 e-mail: mcgyver30@comcast.net Secretary: Cindy James (505) 331-1464 e-mail: tpjcaj@hotmail.com Treasurer: Vicky Gibbs (505) 401-9459 e-mail: mcgyver30@comcast.net Directors: JoAnn Fitzpatrick (2018-19) (505) 856-1104 e-mail: prplfish@aol.com Charlie Valerio (2017-18) (505) 884-5400 e-mail: cjvalerio43@gmail.com Lyle Anderson (2018) (505) 898-7992 e-mail: andacco@aol.com

2018 APPOINTED SUPPORT TEAM Newsletter Editors: Al Stanley; Richard McAvoy; Pat James Car Council Rep: Dan Pyzel Librarian: Melba Anderson Advertisements: Charles Spooner Tool Chest: Charlie Valerio Historian: Melba Anderson Raffle Coord: Charles & Charlotte Ryff Hospitality: Juanita Rohde Barista: Jerry Long State Fair Coord: John McDowell Web Master Pat James MAFCA Chapter Rep: Al Stanley

Newsletter: This Newsletter is the official publication of the Poco Quatros Chapter #10328 of the Model A Ford Club of America (MAFCA). Our web site is at http://www.pocoquatros.org. Club address is P.O. Box 21058, Albuquerque, NM 87154-1058. This newsletter is published monthly. Permission is given to reprint any por-tion of this newsletter if acknowledgment is given. Classified ads are free to Club members. A business card size ad is available annually for $40.00. Membership: Club dues are $20.00 per year, payable by the first of the year. Membership in the National Club (MAFCA) is encouraged. Address: MAFCA, 250 South Cypress Street, La Habra, CA 90631-5586. Phone: 1-562-697-2712. Visit MAFCA online at http://www.mafca.com. Monthly Meetings: The general membership meeting is held the third Friday of each month except Decem-ber, at Heights Cumberland Presbyterian Church, 8600 Academy Rd. NE, Albuquerque at 7:00 PM. All club mem-bers are always welcome at Club Board meetings held at 6:00 pm. Any articles or wants ads must be submitted by the 25th of each month in order to be printed in the follow-ing month’s newsletter. Send your request to Al Stanley at aldot29coupe@aol.com or Richard McAvoy at prplfish@aol.com.

CLASSIFIED ADS! Poco Quatros hats and shirts are available. Contact Dan Pyzel at 605-883-0291. Poco Quatros Yellow Vests: Several members use a yellow vest to attach their pins and patches for display at various Club events. If you are interested in the purchase of a vest, contact Chrystal Hodges at 505-292-5356. The estimated cost is $40.

Note: If you want to sell or give away anything Model A related, Put it in this Newsletter! Just let me know. Al Stanley 505-296-4333 or aldot29coupe@aol.com

Upcoming Events Month Date Day Event Time Location

Feb 3 16 16 17

Sat Fri Fri Sat

Breakfast Board Mtg General Mtg Ladies Valentine Lunch

8:00 am 6:00 pm 7:00 pm 1:00 pm

Cocina Azul, 1134 Mountain Rd NW, ABQ HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq BJ’s Restaurant, 2100 Louisiana Blvd, NE

Mar 3 3 16 16

Sat Sat Fri Fri

Breakfast Safety Inspection Board Mtg General Mtg

8:00 am After Breakfast 6:00 pm 7:00 pm

TBD T.J. Anderson’s, Rio Rancho, NM HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq

Apr 7 20 20

Sat Fri Fri

Breakfast Board Mtg General Mtg

8:00am 6:00 pm 7:00 pm

TBD HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq

Happy Anniversary!

2/7 Greg & Katie Benson 2/10 Jerry & Lea Long 2/18 Roger & Mary Kay Campbell 2/23 Pat & Mary Libertelli 2/25 Dick & Darlene Tuschhoff

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2/1 Anne Oechslin 2/6 Nancy Capels 2/12 Abe Lincoln 2/13 John McDowell 2/14 Melba Anderson 2/15 JoAnn Fitzpatrick 2/19 Melvonna Roy 2/20 John Shaffer 2/22 George Washington 2/24 Mary Alice Padilla

THE VERY, LAST LAUGH (from the DIABLO As)

Last year I replaced all the windows in my house with those expensive double-pane energy-efficient kind. Yesterday, I got a call from the con-tractor who installed them. He was complaining that the windows had been installed a whole year ago and I hadn't paid for them yet. Hellloooo? Now, just because I'm an ex-blond doesn't mean that I am au-tomatically stupid. So I told him just exactly what his fast-talking sales guy had told ME last year.. namely, that in just ONE YEAR these win-dows would pay for themselves! "Helllooooo"? (I told him). "It's been a year." There was only silence at the other end of the line, so I finally just hung up.... He hasn't called back, probably too embarrassed about for-getting the guarantee they made me. Bet he won't underestimate a blond anymore. Paddy was tooling along the road one fine day when the local policeman, a friend of his, pulled him over. "What's wrong, Seamus?" Paddy asked. "Well didn't ya know, Paddy, that your wife fell out of the car about five miles back?" said Seamus. "Ah, praise the Almighty!" Paddy replied with relief. "I thought I'd gone deaf!"

PQ SUNSHINE CORNER (Mostly Gossip)

Sad News. Cindy James ’ mother passed away Jan 25th. Her funeral (in Kansas) is planned for Tuesday, Jan 30. Pat and Cindy expect to return to Albuquerque no sooner than Feb 1. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families as they go through these tough times.

The Meeting potluck provided great food and a chance to visit.

We saw John McD’s Cabriolet at the meeting as well as Lyle Anderson’s fordor and Chaves’ tudor. Several new members have joined to reduce our average age.

A few folks claim to be working on their “A”s, but progress seems to be wishful thinking. It seems that buying a few parts serves as an ease to their minds.

Did Jim B put in his new Mitchell transmission in his fordor? I’ve not heard any bragging.

Remember, I’m watching you! The Sleuth

PS: Did you know that DUES are DUE?

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Poco Quatros Model A Ford Club - MAFCA Chapter # 10328

2018 – Bang. We are up and running. Underwear delivery, joint board meeting, and potluck club meeting. Great start of New Year! We asked for ladies treat. Note the announcement! We scheduled inspection day in March, Tommie Andersons. Several are planning either to go to MAFCA Nation event in Reno or Bran-son in late June. Hope you can go to one or the other! Note: Bill Capels has stepped down from doing Ads. Charles Spooner has stepped up to do the action. Remember we are family. Greet one another and help the newcomers become active and involved. Happy Trails. C. Spooner _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

POCO Quatros Copper Canyon Board Meeting. Jan. 12, 2018

The board meeting was called to order by our President, Charlie Spooner at 12 noon. Present were Char-lie and Leslie Spooner, Al and Dorothy Stanley, John and Vicky Gibbs, Linden Griffee, Pat & Cindy James, Dick & Delberta Nemitz, Lyle & Sallie Anderson, Dan Pyzel, Charlie & Doreen Valerio, Richard McAvoy & JoAnn Fitzpatrick and Jo's grandson Zack.

Reviewed 2018 appointed officers for the following positions: Mac & Jo for Refreshment Coordinators, Membership will be Vicky Gibbs, Tool Chest-Charlie Valerio, Newsletter-Al Stanley, Safety Check will be after the first breakfast in March and will be done at Tommie and Melba Anderson's garage. Breakfast coordinators will be John Gibbs and Larry Dyer, Web Master--Pat James, Christmas Banquet-Linden Griffee, Attendance & Mileage-Delberta Nemitz, Poker Run and BBQ-Linden Griffee will coordinate for first part of June.

Our first General Meeting on Jan. 19, 2018 will be a Pot Luck-White elephant gift exchange and will be co-ordinated by Jo and Mac. We will also have the distribution of the raffle prizes that were not distributed at the year-end banquet.

Bank signature cards will be coordinated in January with old and new treasurers.

Ladies night out will be coordinated by Leslie Spooner for Saturday, Feb. 17.

Charlie Spooner has booked the 1st. Saturday in Sept. for Breakfast in the Mountains at Grace Park.

John Gibbs brought up the possibility of having a 'Dino' check done on our Model A's. We will need 30 cars to sign up in order to get a good price. Will discuss in more detail at upcoming general meeting.

Lyle Anderson will plan a fall tour to Southern NM. The meeting was adjourned at 12:37 pm.

Submitted by Cindy James, Secretary ________________________________________________________

Board Meeting, Jan 19, 2018

Attending the board meeting on 1/19/18 were Charlie Spooner, John Gibbs, Al Stanley, Dan Pyzel, Lyle Anderson, Charlie Valerio, Linden Griffee, Jo Ann Fitzpatrick and Vicky Lujan Gibbs.

The board discussed the closing of the bank account at Bank of America. Vicky presented information about using Sandia Area Federal Credit Union. There was discussion about the location of Sandia Area Federal Credit Union, making sure that there were locations on the west side and in Albuquerque. There was discussion about interest rates for the CD. It was discussed about the interest rate of being much higher that at Bank of America. Jo Ann brought up that we should also check out Sandia Federal Credit Union. Charlie Valerio made a motion that we open an account at Sandia Area Federal Credit Union. John seconded the motion. All were in favor of Vicky opening up a bank account at Sandia Area Federal Credit Union. Motion carried.

Al brought up a discussion about sending the newsletter to non-attending “lifetime” members. Al will send letters to them to ask if they still want the newsletter. If Al gets no reply he will take them off the mailing list.

Linden discussed the Installation banquet. There is a new Menu and it is $30.00 a person. 66 people at-tended in 2017, total collected was $1360.00. We paid MCM Elegante $1955.00. $595.00 was subsidized by the club. The money from the silent auction covered the $595.00. The Appetizers were $372.00 alone. Linden will bring up in the general meeting to see if people want a sit down dinner or a buffet. The buffet will be Mexican food or Barbecue food. Linden also brought up that he would like to see this years silent auction money go to Mc Phearson College. Linden would like to see $1000.00. It was also discussed that the money could come from Rich Ford Edgewood money and Power Ford Money. Dan said that it is a good idea, but would like the amount to be $500.00 from both Ford places. The board would also like to see if we could add Bob Chalmers Ford and Brad Francis Ford in Los Lunas. This was tabled for a future meeting. Meeting was adjourned. Vicky Lujan Gibbs

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NOTES - EVENTS

Sat Feb 3 8:00 am; Breakfast at Cocina Azul, 1134 Mountain Rd NW, ABQ

Fri Feb 16 Board Mtg, 6:00 pm then General Mtg at 7:00 pm at HCPC 8600 Academy NE, Abq

Sat Feb 17 Ladies Valentine Lunch, 1:00 pm, BJ’s Restaurant, 2100 Louisiana Blvd, NE (Winrock area)

Sat March 3 Breakfast then Model A Safety Inspection at T.J. Anderson’s, Garage, Rio Rancho, NM

Sat June 23 Leave time TBD Tour to Branson Missouri for the MARC National Meet; return July 3.

Sun June 24 MAFCA National Convention, Nugget Casino & Resort , June 24-29 - Reno Nevada Travel dates TBD by those folks going.

ON THE ROAD AGAIN

“Bless the Ladies” Valentine Lunch

That time again to treat your lady to an outing event.

When: 1:00pm February 17th 2018

Where: BJ's Restraunt 2100 Louisiana Blvd.

(Just South of Indian School Rd.; North of I-40) (In the parking lot of Monroe Jr. High)

An area has been reserved and you order off the menu.

RSVP so we know how many seats to reserve!

Reservations: Lesley Spooner chililadyaz@aol.com

_____________________________________________________________________________________ WANTED: Contributions to the Newsletter from Members:

We’ve had a few member’s stories in the past, but this year I want to print more of them for all of us to en-joy. Please write-up one or more of your Model A stories from growing up, Model A purchases, trips, prob-lems & solutions, etc., and send them to me. I will help with the writing if you want or think you might need it. We all have fond memories of our Model As and things that we have experienced. Others in the Club would enjoy reading about what you did or should have done. An old photo (before & after or other) would be a great addition to the article. Get them to me (draft, photo, etc.) and I’ll work with you to get them into the Newsletter. Thanks! Al Stanley (aldot29coupe@aol.com) (505-296-4333) __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

More Member Stuff

If you have a topic you would like presented at a meeting (or help present), or a topic you would like to have covered in a seminar or workshop, please contact one of the following so appropriate planning, prep-aration and scheduling can be done. The VP activity contacts are:

John Gibbs, (505) 401-9459 or: Larry Dyer, (505)8221-5324 mcgyver30@comcast.net larrybarb21@gmail.com _____________________________________________________________________________________

Realizing that their home just wasn't big enough with the new baby in the house, Little Johnny's parents discussed moving to a bigger one. Little Johnny sat patiently listening to his parents, then piped in, "It's no use. He'll just follow us anyway." A new neighbor asked the little girl next door if she had any brothers and sisters. She replied, "No, I'm the lonely child."

PS: Did you know that DUES are DUE?

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Poco Quatros General Meeting: Jan 19, 7:00pm

Charlie Spooner opened the meeting with news about Tommy Anderson. Tommy is doing well, but cannot go out yet due to the flu season. Charlie had a moment of silence and prayer for all who are sick and of passing family members.

It was announced that the Feb 3rd breakfast will be at Cocina Azul, 1134 Mountain Road NW, ABQ NM 87102, at 8:00am.

JoAnn Fitzpatrick passed the refreshment list around. We had the drawings for the gift cards. Lucky winners were Selma Arnold, Floyd Gentry, John McDowell, Richard Tuschhoff, Vic Padilla, James Chaves, Raelynn Combest, Yvette Ponce, Katie Griffee, Delberta Nemitz, Bobby Hamilton, JoAnn FitzPatrick, Lea Long, Melba Anderson, and Juanita Rohde.

Linden talked about this years banquet. The banquet will still be at MCM Elegante, second Saturday of De-cember. Linden asked if we wanted a sit down dinner, or a buffet? There was discussion and the there was a vote. BBQ got the majority of the vote. Linden gave us 2 choices, Mexican or BBQ. BBQ was voted in.

The club drawing took in $64.00, $32.00 for the club, $16.00 for the men, and $16.00 for the women. Yvette won the women’s drawing and Gene Johnson won the men’s.

John Cosper made a motion to adjourn the meeting, everyone else seconded it. Meeting adjourned. Vicky Gibbs

There are two (2) Model A National Meets this summer. They are shown below. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

#1: 2018 MARC National Meet; Branson, Missouri - June 23—July 3,

Plans are underway to travel to Branson Missouri for the 2018 MARC National meet. MARC membership may be required in order to register.

We will leave Albuquerque on Saturday morning, June 23. Branson is approximately 900 miles from Albuquerque so our daily drive goal will be approximately 300 miles a day. The host hotel has sold out of rooms so we have elected to stay at the Econo Lodge in Branson which is one block away from the host hotel.

The Econo lodge is located at 230 S. Wildwood drive, Branson, Missouri 65616. Phone: 417-336-4849.

In looking at the preliminary meet plans, the first activity is the welcome party on Monday evening June 25. We would plan to depart Branson on Sunday, July 1. Please book your hotel reservations directly with the hotel. They have provided us with a nightly rate of $60.00 plus tax.

We will have two nights on the road to get to Branson and two nights for our return trip. That hotel information will be provided once we have finalized our travel plans.

We plan to have more details about the Branson trip at the February meeting. This looks like it is going to be a popular event so you need to book your hotel ASAP if you have any interest in going. Pat and Cindy James, (Poco Quatros Tour Planners) _______________________________________________________________________________________

#2: 2018 MAFCA National Convention, Nugget Casino & Resort , June 24-29 - Reno Nevada

Registration requires MAFCA membership. The registration form and event information are available at the following website: http://w.ncrgmafca.com/2018MAFCAConvention/2018index.html

There are many planned tours and events that are filling up so early registration is recommended.

Charlie Valerio plans to attend the MAFCA convention. He may have additional information. You may contact him at 505-417-4414.

PS: Did you know that DUES are DUE?

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Thermostats in a Model A Engine

Back in the beginning of Model A days, the radiators were built with just enough cooling to allow the engine to “warm-up” but not overheat in most applications. An occasional steaming engine was permitted. Engines with heavier workloads, such as trucks, were provided with more radiator cooling capacity. In cooler weather, like winter, radiators were often covered in order to restrict air flow thus reducing the cooling to allow the engine to reach a suitable operating temperature. The amount of restriction was based on experience and guessing.

Using a thermostat gets the engine up to a reasonable temperature sooner which results in a cleaner running engine. However, in a Model A engine, there are differences in the coolant circulation within the engine block that must be considered. Let’s review this important difference.

In a modern engine design, the engine block is designed to permit the water pump to circulate the coolant with-in the block when the thermostat is closed. Then as the engine reaches operating temperature, the thermostat opens far enough to allow the coolant to enter the block to maintain the desired temperature. When the ther-mostat is closed, the coolant circulation within the block prevents “hot spots” from developing.

The Model A block and water pump are designed so the water pump sucks the coolant out of the top of the en-gine and pushes the coolant into the radiator and pulls coolant in from the radiator. No significant circulation occurs within the block without the circulation through the radiator. The installation of a thermostat in the water outlet to the radiator, stops the coolant circulation within the engine block until the thermostat detects enough temperature to open.

Here is the problem: The lack of coolant circulation when the thermostat is closed can result in hot spots within the engine block, particularly the rear of the engine. It is fairly well documented that the back of the engine block (like #4 cylinder) operates hotter than the front of the block (#1 cylinder), which is closest to the thermo-stat.

A picture of possible temperatures within the engine is as follows: The thermostat indicates 160 degrees. With a restricted flow within the block, the rear of the engine may be operating over 190 degrees. The engine under load may now overheat at the rear but the driver thinks it is running cooler because the temperature gauge shows a low number. My suggestion is to drill a couple holes in the thermostat to allow a significant amount of circulation to occur even when the thermostat is closed. The engine temperature readout gauge will vary temperature more but the driver will see a more true picture of the operating temperature of the engine.

Your choice is to drive without a thermostat, like the old days, which provides good coolant circulation or use a “leaky thermostat” which is an intermediate step to stabilizing the engine operating temperature for a cleaner running engine.

I’m running a 160 degree thermostat welded into a short piece on stainless tube (Bert’s part # A-8270) installed in the upper hose close to the head water neck outlet. The thermostat has 2 holes (#1 drill, 0.229”). I may try 3 holes soon to evaluate the temp profile. The hole sizes are up to you.

You may not want to run any thermostat if your radiator is marginal in cooling. ALS

Dues Notice:

The Poco Quatros membership roster is compiled in February and printed by March of each year. The business year for the Poco Quatros Model A Ford Club runs from January through December. Dues are collected in December into mid February. To have your name included in the PQ Club roster, please submit your dues ($20/year) to the treasurer (Vicky Gibbs) by the middle of February. You may mail your check to the PQ Club Post Office address which is: or to Vicky at:

Poco Quatros Vicky Lujan Gibbs P.O. Box 21058 30 Avenida Valencia Rd Albuquerque, NM 87154-1058 Los Lunas, NM 87031 Thanks for taking care of this!

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WANTED:

The story about your Model A; Any “Breakdown” story; Photos for this newsletter; Technical articles or a Tiny Tip. How about a mystery photo of when you were younger. Remember this is your news-letter - what would you like to see in it - any suggestions? Please let your Editor know.

Temperature Gauge for Model A

If you desire a gauge that can be mounted inside the car, you'll need a mount for it. They typically can be attached under the existing instrument panel. There are several to choose from that hold one, two, or even three accessory gauges. You can also get a mount that fits on the steering column, although this isn't the neatest installation. If you do use an accessory round dial temperature gauge, you'll need a way for the gauge's sensor to connect into your cooling system. There are several ways to do that.

Aries Limited makes a miniwater pipe that goes into the upper radiator hose. A standard temperature probe can be screwed into the pipe and the wire can run across the engine and into the car.

Bratton's has a couple of other ideas for the temperature probe. One part is a side water inlet that has a temperature probe boss built in to it that replaces the stock water inlet. The nice thing about this one is that the probe wire to the gauge is much shorter than most and can ride up the wire loom into the Terminal Box, making for a neat installation. A similar part replaces the water outlet above the water pump. It too has a boss built into the side for a temperature probe. Or it could be used to run water to a hot water heater instead. So if you want to pay closer attention to your Model A's water temperature (instead of waiting for steam to come out of the radiator), consider adding one of these accessory tem-perature gauge solutions. Hopefully, if your car does begin to overheat, you'll notice it before it boils over. --RB Rogue Ram

Carburetor Idle Air Adjust

Question: When you turn the carburetor air adjustment screw in (clockwise), are you making the mixture richer or leaner? My 'A' has a tendency to want to stall when you slow down to turn a corner and have the clutch in to shift into second gear. I have set the idle up higher than it should be to avoid the stall problem. Does this seem like an idle mixture that is too lean or too rich? I have heard both opinions expressed. Answer: The carburetor air adjustment affects idle air mixture only. For this adjustment to work correctly you must have no air leaks around the manifold gasket (intake side), at the carburetor or vacuum line. Many times the throttle shaft in the upper housing of the carburetor is worn and allows air to be drawn in around the shaft. To make correct adjustment of idle air adjustment screw begin by turning the idle air screw all the way in (clockwise) to the seat (lightly) and then back out (counter-clockwise) 1-1/2 turns. With the spark lev-er in the full retard position, bring the engine to an idle. Lean the carburetor mixture a little by adjusting the dash adjusting knob for no more than 1/4 turn open. Now turn the idle air screw in slowly until the engine starts to stall (Note the position of the screw). It should cause the engine to start to stall out about 1/4 turn in (counterclockwise) from where you started. Now slowly turn the screw counter-clockwise until the engine starts to stall again. Then turn back counter-clockwise to a point in between the two stall points. This should be about 1-1/2 turns from the seat. Turning the screw clockwise reduces the air mixture to the idle fuel, making it a richer mixture (less air). Turning the screw counter-clockwise increases the air mixture, thereby providing a leaner fuel mixture. If the screw has little or no effect it means you either have an air leak in the idle circuit (usually caused by too much wear around the throttle shaft) or if you have a windshield wiper vacuum line you may have a leak in that line.

PS: Did you know that DUES are DUE?

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