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EU-PHARE TWINNING PROJECT Mutual Recognition of Medical Professionals. The recognition of medical professionals from other EU member states. Dr Lourens R. Kooij MD PhD G eneral secretary HVRC KNMG Postgraduate Training & Registration. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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EU-PHARE TWINNING PROJECT

Mutual Recognition of Medical Professionals

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The recognition of The recognition of medical professionals medical professionals

from other from other EU member statesEU member states

Dr Lourens R. Kooij MD PhDGeneral secretary HVRC

KNMG Postgraduate Training & Registration

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Recognition of medical Recognition of medical professionals from other EU professionals from other EU member states: member states:

a systematic a systematic approachapproachDr Lourens R. Kooij MD PhD

General secretary HVRCKNMG Postgraduate Training & Registration

April 2004

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Mutual recognition: what do Mutual recognition: what do we need to make the system we need to make the system workingworking??

•EU legislation

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Mutual recognition: what do Mutual recognition: what do we need to make the system we need to make the system workingworking??

•EU legislation: Directive 93/16/EEC

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EEC, EU, EEAEEC, EU, EEA

1957: founding EEC by B, NL, L, wD, F and I1973: + UK, IRL, DK1981: + GR1986: + SP, P1990: reunion of Germany1992: EEC + N, ICE, LST = EEA1993: EEC becomes EU1995: + FIN, A, S1999: treaty with CH 2004: + 10 new MS, including PL

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Mutual recognition: what do Mutual recognition: what do we need to make the system we need to make the system workingworking??

•EU legislation: Directive 93/16/EEC•competent authorities

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Mutual recognition: what do Mutual recognition: what do we need to make the system we need to make the system workingworking??

•EU legislation: Directive 93/16/EEC•competent authorities• trust

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Mutual recognition: what do Mutual recognition: what do we need to make the system we need to make the system workingworking??

•EU legislation: Directive 93/16/EEC•competent authorities• trust•a systematic approach

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Directive 93/16/EECDirective 93/16/EEC

•Mutual recognition of diplomas

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Directive 93/16/EECDirective 93/16/EEC

•Mutual recognition of diplomas

•Co-ordination of training programs

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Directive 93/16/EECDirective 93/16/EEC

•Mutual recognition of diplomas‘automatic’ recognition, based on

approved

diplomas and certificates, issued by the MS competent authorities

•Co-ordination of training programs

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Directive 93/16/EECDirective 93/16/EEC

•Mutual recognition of diplomas‘automatic’ recognition, based on

approved

diplomas and certificates, issued by the MS competent authorities

•Co-ordination of training programs minimum requirements

on contents and duration

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Mutual recognition Mutual recognition after 1 May 2004after 1 May 2004

POLAND

Other Member States

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Mutual recognition Mutual recognition

Member State

Member State

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Mutual recognition: Mutual recognition: betweenbetween MS and MS

Which EU diplomas have to be recognised by other MS competent authorities?•Three (or four) possibilities:

1. Study/specialisation after accession2. Acquired rights

a. Study before accessionb. Specialisation before

accession3. Third country qualifications

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Domus MedicaEU diplomas to be EU diplomas to be recognised by other recognised by other

MS MS 1. Study/specialisation after

accession:• diploma / certificate of a medical

study and/or a specialisation that started after the accession of the MS of origin

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Domus MedicaEU diplomas to be EU diplomas to be recognised by other recognised by other

MS MS 2. Acquired rights

a. medical study started before accession: diploma issued after a medical study that (does not meet the Directive and) started before the accession of the MS of origin, accompanied by a certificate from the competent authority in the MS of origin that the applicant worked as a medical doctor for at least 3 years in the last 5 years

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Domus MedicaEU diplomas to be EU diplomas to be recognised by other recognised by other

MS MS 2. Acquired rights

b. specialisation started before accession: diploma issued after a specialisation that (does not meet the Directive and) started before the accession of the MS of origin, accompanied by a certificate from the competent authority in the MS of origin that the applicant worked as a specialist at least twice the difference between the duration of the specialist training in the host MS and the MS of origin

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Domus MedicaEU diplomas to be EU diplomas to be recognised by other recognised by other

MS MS 3. Third country qualifications

• under article 42c Directive recognition in another MS, additional diplomas, training and professional experience within the EU have to be taken into account in requests to recognize third country qualifications

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Domus MedicaArt. 42c of Directive Art. 42c of Directive 93/16/EEC 93/16/EEC

•MS shall examine diplomas, certificates and other evidence of formal qualifications in the field covered by this Directive obtained by the holder outside the EU in cases where those diplomas, certificates etc have been recognised in another MS, as well as training undergone and/or professional experience gained in that other MS.

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A Dutch citizen (female, 37) who - after graduating as medical doctor in Belgium and postgraduate training for general practice (family medicine) in the UK – worked for more than 5 years in Bhutan, requests for recognition as a doctor and as a family physician in Poland.

•What would be your decision and why?

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A British citizen (male, 40), who - after graduating as medical doctor in the UK and specialisation as a paediatrician in the South-Africa – worked for 4 years in Germany, requests for recognition as a doctor and as a paediatrician in Poland.

•What would be your decision and why?

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It’s all about nationality!It’s all about nationality!

In general, the range of application of Directive 93/16/EEC is limited to applicants who have:

•MS nationality•MS diplomas and/or certificates

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Nationality

Medical study

Specialisation

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Is it as simple as that? Is it as simple as that?

.

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Is it as simple as that? Is it as simple as that?

•yes, it is

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Is it as simple as that? Is it as simple as that?

•yes, it is•but there are other things:

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Is it as simple as that? Is it as simple as that?

•yes, it is•but there are other things:

for example:

what to do when an immigrating specialist has a specialisation that does not exist in the host MS?

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Domus MedicaWhat to do when a What to do when a specialisation does not specialisation does not exist in the host MS? exist in the host MS?

• art 8 of the Directive determines that in this case the host MS has to try to ‘fit him/her in’ in a specialisation that does exist in the host MS

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Domus MedicaWhat to do when a What to do when a specialisation does not specialisation does not exist in the host MS? exist in the host MS?

• art 8 of the Directive determines that in this case the host MS has to try to ‘fit him/her in’ in a specialisation that does exist in the host MS

• by examining the (contents and duration of the) specialist training that has been followed, the professional experience and CME

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Domus MedicaWhat to do when a What to do when a specialisation does not specialisation does not exist in the host MS? exist in the host MS?

• art 8 of the Directive determines that in this case the host MS has to try to ‘fit him/her in’ in a specialisation that does exist in the host MS

• by examining the (contents and duration of the) specialist training that has been followed, the professional experience and CME

• and deciding on the additional training that is necessary to recognize this specialist in a specialisation that does exist in the host MS

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Domus MedicaIs it necessary to develop Is it necessary to develop curricula for this kind of curricula for this kind of situation? situation?

.

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Domus MedicaIs it necessary to develop Is it necessary to develop curricula for this kind of curricula for this kind of situation? situation?

• that is a possibility you have to consider when you expect to have to deal with this type of question on a regular basis and you think you need ‘ready-made’ solutions

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Domus MedicaIs it necessary to develop Is it necessary to develop curricula for this kind of curricula for this kind of situation? situation?

• that is a possibility you have to consider when you expect to have to deal with this type of question on a regular basis and you think you need ‘ready-made’ solutions

• this type of problem however is quite rare and every situation is different: in the NL we decided to design ‘tailor-made’ solutions, often based on assessment during practising under supervision

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‘‘Exceptive clauses’ Exceptive clauses’

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‘‘Exceptive clauses’ Exceptive clauses’

•art. 42c- in other MS recognized third country

qualifications

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‘‘Exceptive clauses’ Exceptive clauses’

•art. 42c- in other MS recognized third country

qualifications

•art. 8- differences in specialisations between MS

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‘‘Exceptive clauses’ Exceptive clauses’

•art. 42c- in other MS recognized third country

qualifications

•art. 8- differences in specialisations between MS

•art. 9- acquired rights in other (existing) MS

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‘‘Exceptive clauses’ Exceptive clauses’

•art. 42c- in other MS recognized third country

qualifications

•art. 8- differences in specialisations between MS

•art. 9- acquired rights in other (existing) MS

•art. 9a (new!)- acquired rights in other (new) MS

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Closing remarks Closing remarks

•It is not always easy•but mostly it is not difficult either•some requests are complicated•look carefully at diplomas/certificates•trust competent authorities in other MS•and have faith in your own competence

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