EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

participants

discussion

what was benefits from EGOWS?

sharing of ideas

• Kees: works very well– get new ideas

• John: lot of differences a couple of years ago– less diff. later– sharing of ideas works

ideas

website www.knmi.nl/samenw/egow

s• how to organize EGOWS• add a forum ?• add a Wiki?• Heleen and Kees would like to do

– ask the KNMI management for being allowed to

• add a Photobook

see communication

• (ECMWF as moderator for between meetings communication)– ?

problems for cooperation

why is it difficult to cooperate?

• cooperation on little scale possible• in between: difficult

– risk of cutting resources– reliability on SW developed in other service

without contract basis?

• other extreme: official internationl cooperation (contract based)– at that stage the project/coop is safe

• technical problems (formats,standards)

communication

• not much communication between the conferences

not much communication between the conferences

• sometimes you ask by email and get answers (like Marie did for XMLobjects)

• communication between the conferences– would need a moderator

• ECMWF ?

– needs resources for this

• more meetings?• Internet communication to improve?

language

• English might be a problem • people can improve

resources

• you need more resources (critical mass) for starting a cooperation

• but: later you will save resources• AND: you will get the much better

product by using the ideas of all participants of a cooperation

Does it make sense to have only 1 system?

• maybe not– failover?

• in case one system fails, they could go NinJo or somewhere else

– need some concurrency to improve systems• more creative• open mind for world wide thinking

sorts of coooperation

develop open libraries (DB/..)

• share maintenance• can you rely on a tool/db on

voluntary base– need to rely on maintenance– need contracts or something– on own risc

• formal cooperation– needs more

why cooperation?