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Previous ECTS experiences Tempus projects since 1998: All faculties participated in some of Tempus projects dealing with curricula modernization

ECTS Theory vs. Reality at Dzemal Bijedic University of Mostar Tempus Workshop Sarajevo, 10-12 May 2006 Prof. Dr. Sead Pasic Edina Špago-Ćumurija

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Page 1: ECTS Theory vs. Reality at Dzemal Bijedic University of Mostar Tempus Workshop Sarajevo, 10-12 May 2006 Prof. Dr. Sead Pasic Edina Špago-Ćumurija

Previous ECTS experiences

Tempus projects since 1998:

All faculties participated in

some of Tempus projects dealing

with curricula modernization

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World Bank Project – 2004/2005

PROJECTECTS implementation

Phase I Phase II

PILOT PROJECTIMPLEMENTED ON

FIT

ECTS IMPLEMENTATIONFaculty 8

ECTS IMPLEMENTATIONFaculty 1

ECTS IMPLEMENTATIONFaculty 2

ECTS IMPLEMENTATIONFaculty 3

………………………………..

SUBPHASE 1.1 SUBPHASE 1.2

PROMOTION OFTHE UNIVERSITYAND STUDENT

EXCHANGE

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Activities within the Project

System evaluation11

Creating and harmonizing of documentation10

Information package production9

The first phase evaluation8

Credits defining and allocation7

Informing teaching staff on ECTS6

Defining regulations at faculties5

Training of working groups on ECTS4

Working groups appointment3

Appointment of project lines leaders2

Project leader appointment 1

ActivitiesID

Phase I

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Credits allocation procedure

1. Preparing questionnaires2. Student opinion poll3. Analyzing obtained data4. Defining real workload of students in every

course 5. Creating of credit allocation proposal

through courses6. Accepting the proposal on credit allocation

by the university Academic senate

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30 30 0 80 140

SECOND SECOND SEMEST SEMESTEERR

IIDD

CourseCourse LecturLectureses

ExercisExerciseses

Lab. Lab.

ExerExerc.c.

Time Time neededneeded

WorkloWorkloadad

ECTECTS S

credcreditsits

1 CComputer omputer SySystemstemss ArhiteArhiteccturturee 3030 3030 00 8080 140140 66

2 Essentials of Operative Essentials of Operative SystemsSystems 3030 3030 6060 6565 185185 77

3 AlgoritmAlgoritms and data s and data SStrutrucctureturess 3030 3030 3030 106106 196196 88

4 PPrograminrogramingg Essentials Essentials 6060 3030 6060 7474 224224 99

Total: 745 30

WORKLOAD WORKLOAD coursecourse 1: 1: + + + =

CCreditreditss for the coursefor the course 1: 1:3030 140140**745745

==5,645,64 = = 66

Credits allocation

Recommended number of credits per semester isRecommended number of credits per semester is 30 30 i.e.i.e. 60 credits 60 credits per per year.year.

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Bachelor degree at IT Faculty

The first semester

No. Course lectures exercises Lab. ECTS

1.Essential Economy and Business

30 0 0 66

2. Mathematics 60 60 60 1212

3.Introduction to Information Technology

30 30 60 1010

4. Sports activities 0 60 0 22

The second semester

No. Course lectures exercises Lab. ECTS

1.Computer Systems Architecture

30 30 0 6

2.Introduction to Operative Systems

30 30 60 5

3. Algoritms and Data Structure 30 30 0 8

4. Introduction to Programing 60 30 60 7

5. English Language 15 15 0 4

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The third semesterNo. Course Lectures Exercises Lab. ECTS

1. Statistics and Probability 30 30 0 55

2.Introduction to Computer Networks

30 30 0 77

3. Introduction to Data Base 60 30 60 77

4. Modern Operative Systems 30 30 0 77

5. English Language 15 15 0 44

The fourth semesterNo. Course Lectures Exercises Lab. ECTS

1. Programming 60 30 60 77

2. Computer Networks 30 30 0 66

3. Management and IS 30 30 0 44

4. Reporting 30 30 0 44

5.Data Base Management System

60 30 0 66

6. English Language 15 15 0 33

Bachelor degree at IT Faculty

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The sixth semesterNo. Course Lectures Exercises Lab. ECTS

1.Technology for Decision-Making

Support 30 30 0 66

2. Electronic Business 30 30 60 77

3. Informatics and Society 30 30 0 55

4. English Language 15 15 0 44

5. Project 30 30 0 88

The seventh and eight semesters

Project (creation and defense). Production, analysis of Project tasks: Formulating the project concept, Making Project program of implementation, Technical quality control of the Project, Choosing project implementator, Project Implementation

6060

The fifth semester

No. Course Lectures Exercises Lab. ECTS

1. Information Systems 30 30 0 66

2. Software Engineering 30 30 60 88

3. IS Analisis and Designing 30 30 0 66

4. Marketing and IS 30 30 0 66

5. English Language 15 15 0 44

Bachelor degree at IT Faculty

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Gaining a Bachelor degree at IT Faculty requires 240 credits:– Six-semesters studies = 180 credits – Seventh and eight semester (project) = 60 credits

Bachelor degree at FIT

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1.1. Has the ECTS allocation been realistic?Has the ECTS allocation been realistic?

2.2. Remedial classes in ECTS system?Remedial classes in ECTS system?

3.3. Mobility in B&H and abroad?Mobility in B&H and abroad?

4.4. ECTS in the current system of school years?ECTS in the current system of school years?

5. 5. .............. ..............

Questions after ECTS allocation

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1.Realistic ECTS allocation?SECOND SECOND SEMEST SEMESTEERR

IDID CourseCourse LecturLectureses

ExercisExerciseses

Lab. Lab.

ExerExerc.c.

Time Time neededneeded

WorkloWorkloadad

ECTS ECTS credicredi

tsts

1 CComputer omputer SySystemstemss ArhiteArhiteccturturee 3030 3030 00 8080 140140 66

2 Essentials of Operative Essentials of Operative SystemsSystems 3030 3030 6060 6565 185185 77

3 AlgoritmAlgoritms and data s and data SStrutrucctureturess 3030 3030 3030 106106 196196 88

4 PPrograminrogramingg Essentials Essentials 6060 3030 6060 7474 224224 99

Total: 745 30

1. 1. CComputer omputer SySystemstemss Arhite Arhiteccturturee (140 h – 6 credits)(140 h – 6 credits) 17,2 %17,2 %2. 2. Essentials of Operative SystemsEssentials of Operative Systems (185 h – 7 credits)(185 h – 7 credits) 49,5 %49,5 %3. Algoritm3. Algoritms and data Ss and data Strutrucctureturess (196 h – 8 credits)(196 h – 8 credits) 45,8 %45,8 %4. 4. PPrograminrogramingg Essentials Essentials (224 h – 9 credits)(224 h – 9 credits) 5,8 % 5,8 %

Passing ratePassing rate

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- Such a poor passing rate at exams requires remedial Such a poor passing rate at exams requires remedial classes. Do such classes fit into ECTS system?classes. Do such classes fit into ECTS system?

- Are they allocated credits?

2. Remedial ECTS classes?

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- With no harmonized curricula among BH universities, With no harmonized curricula among BH universities, is it possible to have student mobilities?is it possible to have student mobilities?

- No coordination among BH professional No coordination among BH professional areas/departments.areas/departments.

- Is ECTS justified without mobility?

3. Harmonization of BH curricula Mobility?

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- Besides lack of in-state and regional mobility, Besides lack of in-state and regional mobility, European/international level mobility is also difficult, European/international level mobility is also difficult, mainly due to poor foreign language knowledge.mainly due to poor foreign language knowledge.

- Also, our universities don’t offer enough courses in Also, our universities don’t offer enough courses in English/ some foreign language.English/ some foreign language.

- Is our aim one-way mobility?

4. Mobility at international level?

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Conclusions

First real experience in facing ECTS

problem area have been gained through the

University ECTS project

We produced information packages that we

don’t use

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Results?

No mobility.

No curricula transparency.

No curricula harmonization in BiH.

How to really introduce ECTS?

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Future activities?

• Smooth student mobilities within B&H, in the region and then in European/ international context will be only valid proof of succsseful work with ECTS

• This Tempus project can be a good starting point for real implementation and first mobilities (IT, English and Economy departments, as agreed before)

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Thank you for your attention!