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Debi Raitz12-31-201303:59 PM ET (US)IP: 69.14.220.22

I KNOW we have hundreds of these!If you know the maker and/or year(s) of manufacture, you can add it as your description.We will do china and porcelain next month. Only glass this month.

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Jytte01-01-201407:00 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Eda Glasworks, Sweden 1890

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Susie P01-01-201408:26 AM ET (US)IP: 174.63.146.128

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Love this dark blue double, quite heavy, sorry no other info

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Susie P01-01-201408:28 AM ET (US)IP: 174.63.146.128

Pink double

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Susie P01-01-201408:31 AM ET (US)IP: 174.63.146.128

Large!!!! Double, I believe a repro of an earlier double?

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Here's my green one like Susie's pink one.By Meisenthal (France) 1907Edited 01-01-2014 03:43 PM

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Green glass double with dog.

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Inez Austin01-01-201404:47 PM ET (US)IP: 50.106.8.45

I will have to post some next week.

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Jane Koble01-01-201406:13 PM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189

Ooooh - like the dog, Inez! And, of course, it's green!Jane

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Jytte01-02-201412:02 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Bohemian 1850

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Jane Koble01-02-201408:50 AM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189

So pretty, Jytte!Jane

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Cobalt double - no handle

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Bowtie double

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Blue chicken double

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Same chicken in pink with gold

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Jytte01-03-201412:26 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Pittsburgh Area or Sweden? (Neal DI 4(a))ca 1850

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Debi Raitz01-03-2014

Jytte, I am seriously jealous of how close you are to Sweden and able to get these so much easier than we can. Wonderful double Lacies!



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Jytte01-03-201412:55 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Good morning Debi or Good night for youOne in blue

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Janelle Jefferson01-03-201404:28 AM ET (US)IP: 124.170.231.211

A very pretty lady and quite small but she is one of my favourite doubles. No markings.

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Susie P01-03-201407:04 AM ET (US)IP: 166.205.55.35

Morning!! Jytte, i am seriously drooling over your golden and amber lacy doubles, wow!!!! One of my favorite colors!! And these are beautiful!!!Hi Janelle! I think I have only seen this little lady one other time; really like her!

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My blue one like Debi's and Jytte's.

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Jane Koble01-03-201410:34 AM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189 Not sure what happened with this one. It's a definite peach color, not

amber. 4 5/8" x 2 3/4" x 1 1/4" tall. French



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Double intaglio with napkin holder. Thanks, Mary!

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Mary Kern01-03-201410:57 AM ET (US)IP: 72.220.213.56

Sooooooooooooo many pretties - Will try and find pictures soon but wanted to comment on the beauty shared so far -- m

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Mary Kern01-03-201405:36 PM ET (US)IP: 72.220.213.56 My Neal DI 18 - Not sure if the same as yours Jytte - But close enough

that yours is safe - From me anyway - Can't speak for the other coveters and droolers ---

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Mary Kern01-03-201405:45 PM ET (US)IP: 72.220.213.56

Okay his other brother - not his twin - Neal DI 4

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Mary Kern01-03-201405:48 PM ET (US)IP: 72.220.213.56 Do I get to show this one now and then again when it is for clear

glass ....

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Mary Kern



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Small amber double at only 2 3/4" long and 1 1/8" tall --

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A bit off topic - but since the title is double the fun - Saw the surgeon yesterday - One Fun) The fusion is working and then Double The Fun) The brace no longer has a place on me -- Now comes P.T. ---- and my apologies to you in the weather pattern - This was taken early this morning -- That is sunshine - Wish I could send it (The sun not the brace) your way --

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Great news Mary! Yes, I would like just a ray or two of that nice warm sunshine. I just saw we are in for even colder temps next week. Brrrrrrrr!

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Susie P01-03-201406:52 PM ET (US)IP: 166.205.55.34

great news!!!! Mary!! I know you are SO glad that you no longer have to wear the brace: glad everything is healing correctly, Yeah!!

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Nancy DIetel01-03-201406:52 PM ET (US)IP: 74.105.137.82

Love all the doubles I am seeing. I particularly love the colored lacies, I am sure I don't have any of those beauties. I don't have many glass doubles, guess I have to look around more when I have the nerve to get out from under my cuddly blanket? Ten degrees this morning with 8" of snow. Supposed to go below zero tonight! Mary, so happy to see your smiling face without the brace! Good for you!

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Jytte01-04-201401:34 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85



Like "Double fun 30"!! with sun and the east of US "closed" with snow and extreme frost - and I also like!! your beautiful double saltsMy salt today is from Reijmyre 1898 or Pukeberg 1928, Sweden

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Great news Mary. Glad the back is on the mend. PS to self. Please read top of subject for month and post accordingly. At least the lady is not clear glass. And come to think of it, I don't have coloured doubles in glass. J

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Nancy DIetel01-04-201409:18 AM ET (US)IP: 74.105.137.82

Is there no room for ceramic or metal doubles? Or maybe we have to do that another month.

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Hi Nancy - I think we were doing ceramic next month and then maybe we could follow through in March with all misc doubles - like the metals and wood and soapstone - Whadda ya thimk Aunt Debi???

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There will probably be far less china and porcelain doubles next month than there are glass so we can put the "everything else" in with those next month.


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Susie P01-05-201407:22 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Reposting for better pic, this is one of my favorites!!



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I figured this one could go here because the bowls are glass - Then next month his smaller brother can come on down because his salts are metal and the mustard is the white cut to clear --

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Susie P01-05-201407:43 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Love this! Such a graceful shape!

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I can see why that is one of your favorites, Susie! Beautiful, Mary!Jane

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Basic blue glass double - Completely unfinished from the factory - Mold overage at all seams - This was my Grandmothers - ergo - one of my first salts --

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Blue double intaglio -

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Mary Kern01-05-201407:54 PM ET (US)

Forgot to say - Yes Debi - Your name is on the blue intaglio double -- Got Bob to take some pictures today so I have one more colored glass double - another intaglio - A Hungarian Mary Intaglio - Even got him to catch up on some clear glass Lacy doubles for the second half - and finally a bunch for my sale page -- Life is good - Now if I can just come



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up with some follow through - Did not realize how much that painful brace supported me poor wittle back - lol lol -- But I am not pulling it out of the trash ....

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Peach intaglios -- Is this me - er what ..........

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Susie P01-05-201408:03 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

ooooh, MARY, you know what these do to me! Love them! what massive jewels, I am drooling :):)Susie P

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Some really beautiful doubles here! And (GASP!!!!) YES!!! That is one intaglio/holder I would LOVE to have. It is gorgeous! I am officially a coveter and drooler along with a few of you guys!

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The blue one is so unique - well to me anyway - Here is a head on view --

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I love it, too, even if it is blue! Mary, you could get yourself a "softer" brace that you could use like when you sit at the computer or doing things that put a strain on your back. There are all kinds of them out there.Jane

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Sorry to over drool you SUSIE - and also sorry but Jane's name is on this one -- We will have to find you one - I will look and see who is un-named -Oh DEBI - I am glad you finally were able to own up to drooling and coveting - It is such an exhilarating experience and good for the Soul --I asked him about just that JANE and he said not until the fusion was



complete and I had been through PT - My back has to strengthen on its own - Sitting is still a painful experience after about 20 minutes - He said we could talk about one for when I am doing more physical work/play when I see him again in three months --

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Jytte01-06-201401:37 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Beautiful!!! Salts you share.One from Bohemian - (gift-dated) the 20. October 1857

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Jytte01-06-201401:38 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Art Deco France?

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Susie P01-06-201401:40 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Jytte,Your Art Deco is one I have never seen, surprise, but I am definitely not an expert! I love it! And of course, the Bohemian is close to my heart :):):)Susie

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Double chicken with pretty good paint remaining.


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He was frosty last month. This month Mr. Toad is a double.

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More frosty salts that are doubles.

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Toy or child's double in green opalescent.

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Pink swan double.

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Susie P01-06-201407:48 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136



A couple intaglio doubles; first salts I started collecting....

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Susie P01-06-201407:49 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Same salt frame, different color intaglios

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Susie P01-06-201407:50 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Amber double

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Susie P01-06-201407:51 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Lavender with stupendous jewels, thanks Joan!

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Susie P01-06-2014



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Delicate frame

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Susie P01-06-201407:52 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Elaborate lavender purple

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Susie P01-06-201407:53 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Double hanging salts

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Susie P01-06-201407:54 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Gorgeous colors

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Jane Koble01-06-201408:20 PM ET (US)

Love the painted birds, Debi.Susie - drool, drool!Jane



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Susie and Mary, How could you do this to me in my weakened state. Susie - This is a stick up. You have 24 hrs to pack Mr. Tabby and salts 40, 67, 68 and send them to me. Mary, I will have pity on you because of your back and only take salts 41,47 and 50The Asaltinator

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Susie P01-07-201407:04 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Janelle,Too funny, Ms Asaltinator!!!! :):) and you just chose a few! Thank heavens this is such a long range stick-up I feel safe in gently declining as I love the "jewels" and I know for sure MrTabby isn't going anywhere, just taking him to the vet is exhausting!!!!!!! The only cat I ever had that didn't mind traveling was a Siamese, my first cat, I took him on weekend trips often, didn't realize how rare that was.....Hoping you find a couple beauties for a salt fix soon; we all understand that! Just lucky to have been on vacation so I could get mine taken care of. :):):)Susie

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Group of blue glass doubles.

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Group of pink doubles.

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Really nice, Debi. I love that lighter color in your second picture. Is it light amethyst or pink?Jane

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It really is a true light pink. Makes the other "pink" colors look almost amber, doesn't it?

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The only amber double I have.

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Judy in Texas01-11-201411:42 AM ET (US)IP: 68.94.8.234

I Don't have many doubles - But I do have one Intaglio.

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Wellllllllll Judy - One is enough when it is that pretty -- You and David staying warm and un-over-snowed-in I hope - Don't you just love the ultra-pale pinks ---

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Jytte01-12-201401:11 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85 Love to see your beautiful salts.

This salt is very special for me. I traveled in Mexico - we had one day in Puebla - they had a flea-marked and my eyes immediatly found the two-collored salt. It has PUEBLA stamped/pattern in the blue bottom (1890 - 1900)

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Susie P01-12-201405:42 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Very neat Jytte,I can only imagine how rare; I know Mary has that very rare two colored one; that is the only other one I have seen! Awesome!

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Mary Kern01-12-2014

Jytte - You have once again shown that we - as in you and me - are simply "Salt Twin Sisters" - Our tastes in salts are so together -- I always thought I was Hungarian and English -- but I am beginning to



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wonder here lately - lol lol --- Absolutely beautiful !!! I will not mention coveting - envy - or drooling and simply for once in my salt life say Congratulations ....

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Very neat, Jytte!Jane

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Okay - I have thought about this for some time now - I AM COMING FOR THE SALT Jytte!!! Enough with the nicey kissy face stuff - Covet - Drool - Envy - I am on overload --

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01-12-201409:47 AM ET (US)IP: 99.11.160.87

Interesting wooden post.

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01-12-201409:49 AM ET (US)IP: 99.11.160.87

Closeup of the underside. Probably 1890's. Oops! I was supposed to wait until after the 15th to post this one. Please forgive me. OK, let's just say the handle is a different color.Edited 01-12-2014 09:52 AM

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Nice save Carolyn - also a nice salt !!



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Nancy Villaverde01-12-201412:39 PM ET (US)IP: 66.25.52.226

Do you suppose someone rescued this salt that had lost its metal post by substituting a wooden handle?

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I've had other doubles with wooden handles - wish I still had one!Jane

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Interesting, Jane. I don't think I've seen one before with a wooden handle.

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I have had a couple over the years too and they show up on eBay from time to time --

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01-13-201407:20 AM ET (US)IP: 99.11.160.87

The handle appears to be as old as the salt, so my guess is that it is original to the piece. Where is one of those Antiques Roadshow guys when you need them?

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Oh Carolyn - "WE" are those guys ---- lol lol lol They would tell you the wood was old - the glass was old - the screw was old - and then ask you WHAT the piece was used for ???duh??? -- oh I just tickled myself -----------

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Good one, Mary!Jane

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I was so excited to learn last year that the Antiques Roadshow was going to be in Detroit in June. I guess they had not been back to Detroit since they began the show many years earlier. But my excitement was dashed when I learned tickets were at least $500. I guess only rich people with very expensive antiques and collectibles can afford to go. It sure doesn't appear that way when you watch the show on TV. Anyone else have the show in their city in the recent past? Just curious if



anyone else knows what ticket prices were in their locations.Carolyn: Your wood handled double appears to be Bayel #BY 1527 in the 1923 French catalog. This is a rare instance where the descriptions are with the salts and the translation of "tige bois" is "rod wood". So wood handles were original to some doubles.Edited 01-13-2014 02:16 PM

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WoW - so not worth the attending - The people that are standing in line behind the ones being interviewed do not look like they could pay that much just to have something appraised - We have The Calendar Show here in Del Mar three or four times a year and they do appraising there for a nominal fee so you will attend the show - Perhaps the Roadshow knows we get it cheaper --See Carolyn - I told you we were the Roadshow guys -- Jane makes a true statement - I spread the BS and Debi covers our butts -- What a team -- (Can I say butts?? Okay Debi covers our backs)

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01-13-201403:02 PM ET (US)IP: 99.11.160.87

Debi, Thanks for the information! BTW - I am saving up for that roadshow ticket.

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That might have just been a segment on PBS for raising money. But when I saw it, it said it was the only way to get tickets at that point. I looked it up online and your can send in an application for free tickets but if you are not drawn by random then you're out. I guess the $500 was for a definite ticket. Here's where they will be in 2014:Bismarck, ND May 31Santa Clara, CA June 7Birmingham, AL June 21Austin, TX June 28Albuquerque, NM July 19Chicago, IL July 26New York, NY August 9Charleston, WV August 16

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I was traveling and missed the one time ARS came to Honolulu a few years ago. I suppose chances of being chosen for tv are slight and getting any helpful information not worth all the standing in line. Sour grapes?

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Well, I may have managed to finish taking down all the Christmas things tomorrow, and the dog goes in to have her stitches removed on Friday, so more photos then. I got this one recently and have not looked it up at all. No markings.

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Inez Austin01-14-201404:20 PM ET (US)IP: 50.106.8.45 Christmas prezzie, still haven't found the time to ID it, but I know that

handle....

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Oops, got the rules backward, so here is a coloured one.

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Raspiller and Co., Fenner, #1118, c1903

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Another little sailor

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This one is still unknown.

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I need to find these and retake the photos, the white background just doesn't work.

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No markings.

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Marked 33

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Mulhaus Berlin c1890

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Now for a whole slew of ones I have simply not gotten around to IDing, so think of them as eye candy.

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Eye candy

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more eye candy

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Now for a whole slew of ones I have simply not gotten around to IDing, eye candy.

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Susie P01-14-201404:57 PM ET (US)IP: 166.147.104.144

Lovely eye candy indeed!!! What fun!

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I can't believe these have been waiting 2 years to be IDed.

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More

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Dutch Glassworks, 1906, Voorheeen Jeekel, Mijnssen and Co., Leerdam 1910

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Lindshammar Sweden Gunnarander

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Portiuex - France 1890s-1920s

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Vallerysthal, c1894, No3283

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A few pink ones, no id yet

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More pink

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Beautiful! Inez, I would have a hard time picking one favorite of yours, or even a dozen! I knew you'd have some great ones.Anyone hear from PJ lately? I know she has loads of doubles I thought she would post.

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Bayel, BY 1450, c1923. No, I haven't heard from her in a long, long time.

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McKee twin table salt

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Inez Austin01-14-2014



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Vaseline double, probably French

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Carnival glass, don't know if this is old or not.

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Cobalt CAPRICE pattern - probably a repro.

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Odd color - olive green

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I think that does it for me for colored glass doubles. Now I'll have to photograph my clear ones.

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P.J. is working with either a new computer or a new e-mail system - She is okay - Will try and get a note off to see if she can post for us -- I know which one of Inez's I want - but I can't remember - oh darn I will just have to go all the way back through and look again -- ding dong dang -- There was one of yours I wanted too Debi - But same thing



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can't remember - Guess after I go looking through Inez's I will just have to go back through and look at yours again ---

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Nancy Villaverde01-15-201411:42 AM ET (US)IP: 24.27.105.95

I find I haven't kept any glass doubles. I bought a funny colored olive green art glass in stand not long ago, not a common color for salts. Love your color display, Inez. Would the little sailor in the middle of a double boat have held a match box, suggesting the piece might be a smoking accessory?

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Eye candy is right, Inez! That first one looks really deco.Jane

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Susie P01-16-201404:57 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Clear salts starting today? A small bird :)

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Susie P01-16-201404:57 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

The chickens in clear

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Susie P01-16-201404:58 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

A double from Debi:)



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Susie P01-16-201404:59 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Dog double

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Susie P01-16-201405:01 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Simple double

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I love the man in the cart - reminds me of my intaglio goat cart - and the milk white shell double from Sweden.Jane

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Nancy Villaverde01-16-201401:30 PM ET (US)IP: 24.27.105.95 Forgot this sweet old divided salt. It has a big chip on the back side but

I like it. No idea of origin.

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About 1847 - French

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Debi Raitz



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Similar but with oval bowls. Also French.

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Another similar one.

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Probably my fanciest clear double - marked Sevres

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Jytte01-17-201401:55 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85 The salts about 1880 - 1920 - the "silver-foot" from Denmark

40 other clear doubles in my collection - I'm busy - flying to Sri Lanka mondayNancy I think your #140 are made by Villeroy & Boch 1874. Think my no 161826 is similar but not double.

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Susie P01-17-201405:26 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Jytte, love the silver! You so often have salts I have never seen, and love! Safe travels!Susie

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Susie P01-17-201405:28 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136



Forgot this small double, one of my favorites, with the pics inside the bowls, ad the hang tag

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Thanks for the ID Jytte. Sounds like an interesting trip!

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Jane Koble01-17-201402:19 PM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189 Vallerysthal convertible double touring car.

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Don't know anything about this one.

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Black Forest Bear on an oval wooden base.

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Jane Koble01-17-2014



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Larger reclining Black Forest Bear.

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Three different Black Forest Bears, one is holding his own spoon, one is playing an accordion, and one looks like he is walking.

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Jane Koble, it is McKee, made from the 1880s until the 1930s or 1940s

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Thanks, Inez! I'm glad I remembered to post that one.Jane

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Rae01-17-201409:43 PM ET (US)IP: 222.152.99.212

All the doubles I own!!

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Rae01-17-201409:44 PM ET (US)IP: 222.152.99.212



Close up of my boy

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Susie P01-17-201409:46 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Jane, love the bears! And Rae, I love the one in the middle of the bottom row, with flowers? That is really different! And you have all sizes, too! Fun!!

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Thanks, Susie. Nice doubles, Rae.Jane

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Judy in Texas01-18-201409:41 AM ET (US)IP: 68.94.8.234

From my limited Double Salt Collection...French Double on Silver Center Handle.

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Gorgeous!Jane

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Susie P01-18-201410:03 AM ET (US)IP: 166.147.104.152

Judy, That is beautiful!Susie

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Add me to the line of admirers, Judy in Texas. Where are you located? I moved to Plano over the summer, still don't know my way around Texas much.

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Inez: Your #119 looks just like Vallerysthal #3284.Rae: I checked all the old catalogs for France, Germany and Czechoslovakia and didn't see your double with the toothpick holder. I'll check the rest but it must be a year or company I don't have...yet.

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Inez: Do you think your #116 is Zabkowice - Poland - 1910 - #98?

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I hadn't looked for a while, what a lot of new catalogs. I think it is close but no cigar. darn. Thanks!

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Inez: I have added quite a few over the past 6 months. Besides the new countries of Poland, Denmark, Switzerland and Norway I have also recently added new companies in England and the USA. Still more to go. I have Spain to add too. I think I'll have to break up my row of flags (at the bottom of each country) into two rows now.On your #116 I thought it looked a lot like the Polish one, but I can see that the bridge and rims are a little different. It sure is close though. Might be just a drawing error. I didn't see anything else as close as that at all. You can put it down as a "maybe".

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Oh So Many Pretties - New it would be that way so brought a glass of water and a towel with me before looking -- Am going to post my clear Lacy doubles tonight - Thanks to everyone for a "beautiful salt sunset" - Jytte travel safe and it will be interesting to see what you find in the way of salts on this travel experience -Salts or just scenery - Like Debi said - we would love to see either or both - Have fun !!

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ACORN DI 17c side view --

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Top view showing inside divider --

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ACORN DI 20 --

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NEAL DI 3 SIDE

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NEAL DI 3 TOP

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Ohhhh - I love the DI 20! And the DI 3!Jane

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NEAL DI 4 SIDE

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NEAL DI4 TOP

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NEAL DI 11

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NEAL DI 12

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My last clear Lacy double - I have not looked it up yet and labeled it - But I am sure it is in THE BOOK somewhere --

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Debi Raitz01-18-2014

I couldn't find it in Neal, Mary. It's divided so it should be a DI type but it isn't there. There is no Scroll type (SC) like it either. Didn't look in the Acorn book but I don't think it's very helpful with hardly any pictures.



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Jytte01-19-201402:15 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

OH!!! "Candy" without color!!Mary your #169 is'nt it the same as Neal "OG 7" in double? Again I hear about the "ACORN" - is it possible to buy this book? My double:Karhula Glassworks 1904, Finland(and the rest of my double clear in my collection - under form: Double and color: Clear glass)

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Debi Raitz01-19-201402:42 AM ET (US)IP: 69.14.220.22

http://www.sandwichglassmuseum.org/shop.php?pgID=1&ind=26Jytte: The link above is to the page on the Sandwich Glass Museum website for that book. I don't find it very useful but maybe you would. You definitely need the original Neal book to understand the Acorn book, but I know you do have it.

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Jytte01-19-201402:57 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Thanks Debi!

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Thanks Debi - t least I know I am not loosing it - well any more than normal - because I could not find it in the Neal book either - Will check the Acorn later --Jytte if for some reason they do not mil overseas - Let me know and I will get you one and send it on - I need to get another one anyway - Have complete destroyed the first one I got with notes and markings - Librarians hate me - But I do use the books to their fullest extent anyway --

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Jytte01-19-201410:28 AM ET (US)IP: 90.184.148.85

Thanks Mary - I'll try when I'm back and then let you know if I need your help

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Divided salts are really a sort of sub-category within doubles, aren't they? I wonder if the original concept for any double was to serve two condiments, or would they just hold an extra measure of salt?Always curious.

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Mary KernHi JANE - DI 20 is one of my little guys - He is only 3" long - 1 5/8" across and 1 3/8" tall and very strange for a Lacy with no side stippling



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- Clear as a bell - similar to some of the "basket" salts - ie: Fruit and such ---Okay JYTTE - Just wanted you to know I had your back front and both sides covered -- lolNANCY - I think divided vs double is like master vs table - all the same - It was posted some time ago somewhere in open salt land that someone who had been traveling found a divided/doubled master/table salt at a restaurant with salt in one side and paprika in the other - Maybe that was a new version of their use and then again maybe a carry over from the past -- Unfortunately Martha Stewart/or/Steward was not around to splain it all to us -- All of the "age experienced" people I have talked to over the years - remember the bowls and even some the spoons - but none of them ever saw a divided/doubled -- Even my granny that knowingly and with great glee cursed me with this obsession had no info to pass along --

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Thanks for trying, Mary, but I think I knew I was asking one of those unanswerable questions.

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Yep - But the more thoughts we throw out the better chance we have of perhaps unknowingly getting a correct guess - Just think of how many combinations of spices there were then that could have rested in those little bowls -- "Open Salt Mind Games" -- Let the Play Offs begin.........

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We call them double salts but I am pretty sure in Europe they were used for salt and pepper. They made infinitely more of them in Europe than US glassmakers made. Maybe US makers made them to satisfy European immigrant consumers in the late 1800s. And open salts in general continued to be made longer in European countries than over here. There are not many open salts made past 1910-20 over here but there's still catalog pages full of them in France, Germany and other European countries. Whatever their intended purpose or marketing ploy, they could be used for whatever the consumer wanted them for, salt & pepper, salt & paprika, salt & mustard (with pepper in a shaker), two types of salt, etc.NOTE: Even in old foreign catalogs, they were called "Double Salts" if you check the translations on some of the old catalogs where I also have the price pages included.

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Susie P01-20-201408:57 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136



Divided salt with sail; I believe it is marked 800 (silver)

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Susie P01-20-201408:58 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Back viewEdited 01-20-2014 09:05 PM

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Susie P01-20-201409:10 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Birk's sterling double, I think?

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Susie P01-20-201409:13 PM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Clear Intaglio man and lion?

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Mary Kern01-22-2014



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Thought I had hit all the right buttons but this post does not show anywhere - so ----------- New arrival - Miniature faceted bowls and handles - Only 3 1/4" long -- Always have room for babies - with or without fur --

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Hi Mary, I just took these photo's to upload when I saw your new baby salt. I have it's brother (obviously separated at birth.) I guess you could say they only hold a pinch of salt. The one with the metal holder has the same size bowls and I think it is French.

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This double or divided salt was made by Sowerby And dated around 1890 as far as I can tell.

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This salt marked underneath SV which I believe stands for Scmid Verrier

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Janelle Jefferson01-23-2014



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Last one is the double swan

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Very strange. Posted the photos from my iPad and they were showing all the right way up, yet when I just check on my PC they are showing sideways on here except the swan. I am sorry about that.J

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Susie P01-23-201405:18 AM ET (US)IP: 75.103.187.136

Hi Janelle, All look fine to me, right side up!! And love that last, divided swan! Susie

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I see them sideways, Janelle, except for the swan. Possibly a problem from the iPad.

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I am using my iPad and they are right side up for me!Nice salts.

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They are showing up for me sideways too. Maybe an iPad can determine they are sideways but the computer can't.

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Susie P01-23-201402:32 PM ET (US)IP: 166.147.104.144

That is interesting; on my ipad and iphone they are right side up; haven 't been on the computer.... And I almost always load all my pics from them too.....

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Hey Janelle - Just further proof that we am susters - Once again liking the same salt and also knowing a sideways picture when we sees one - lol lol - I would drool and covet your double swan as others have done - but I do believe that some room for such should be left for Nancy D and Sue S -- m

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Got this one from Ed Bowman a while back - It is soooo much prettier in person - I know he had another one - not sure if it sold or not - If anyone does love the double clear salts - This is one to acquire - It is also medium size so it does not take up an entire shelf --

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Janelle Jefferson01-23-201406:54 PM ET (US)IP: 124.169.153.120

Do like that one Mary, also some of the others posted are definitely ones to look out for. Also going to see if I can find some coloured ones. They are so pretty. I think I have worked out that the way the iPad is held when taking the photo, length ways or up and down determines how the photo will appear on a PCJ

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Sue Sawyer01-23-201408:17 PM ET (US)IP: 173.88.45.26

Oh, yes, I'm drooling, Mary. Would love to have a double swan.

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E. Jane Koble01-23-201409:28 PM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189

Love that one, Mary!Jane

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I have very few glass doubles, colored ot clear. This is one I just found in the closet. Carved shell base with 2 miniature salts, double beaded circle handle. Black writing on shell but can't make it out.

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Forgot about my donkey double. It was posted previously in another category. Love him!

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This is one of 2 Black Forest bears I have. This one is very tiny with small bowls and holds a spoon in his arms. The bear is only 1 1/2" high.

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Nancy D--"found in the closet"?! I am laughing, with you, not at you. Nancy V

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Nancy DIetelYes, Nancy, completely disorganized these days. Even found a few colored doubles which I was sure I did not have! Four of my cabinets



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are in an unheated room and we have been in single digits these days! Excuses, excuses, I have many more! Lol.

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Janelle Jefferson01-25-201401:54 AM ET (US)IP: 124.171.17.188 A knife rest with tiny bowls either side. I know nothing at all about this

one.J

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E. Jane Koble01-25-201411:18 AM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189

That is really neat, Janelle!Jane

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Coming after your donkey NANCY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Neither wind nor sleet nor hail nor snow nor ice nor cold can keep me from my appointed salt swiping rounds -- Yes my creed is even more inclusive than the postman's --JANELLE - Remember - if you want information - simply send the double knife rest salt with round bowls directly to me - I shall spend whatever amount of time is needed to get you every single tiny bit of information I can - You will have to remember though that I have quite a back log of stolen -- no no - MYSTERY - that is what I meant - mystery salts awaiting identification so it may take a longer period of time to be sure I have all the facts on your piece - But rest assured it will be kept safe in my curio cabinets until I can get to it --

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http://opensalts.us/References/Catalogs/Fr...Portieux1894-fW.jpgThis looks very similar Janelle, but the angle isn't good and I can't tell if it has the ribbing either.

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Well, Mary, I guess my donkey will have to trot back to his hiding place. Good luck to getting here and finding him. Snow, ice and single digit temps almost derailed our mailman this week!And flights are canceled or delayed. Next week we will have Super Bowl madness as all the crazies descend on us and fill the planes with fans. They better bring layers and layers of warm clothes!

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Mary Kern01-25-2014

Oh No -- Over the roof tops - I am borrowing Santa's rig - He won't miss it - Put on his magic jacket - in and out - Donkey gone bye bye -



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Where there is a will - there is a way -- Sorry for your weather and super bowl fans --

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Attached is a photo of the knife rest taken with the iPad with the home button on the left so technically it should be wrong on PC 's . It is not as classy as the French One Debi, very basic like a number of the plain and coloured ones attributed to many makers. Mary, you can have it, PICK UP only.

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Ok, it worked, on my iPad the photo is the correct way up, on my PC it is upside down. So Jytte it is not how you are sending the photo's but how they are taken. And some iPads and tablets will detect if it is upside down and correct the orientation whereas PC's will not. You can lock the tablet so it does not rotate or just remember that the home button is on the right when taking a shot. I guess it is a good feature that no matter how you pick up the iPad , you can use it that way unless you want to take photo's. Now we just have to remember to do correctly so everyone can see it the right way up. J

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http://opensalts.us/References/Fostoria/Fostoria.htmlJanelle, now that I see it better, it's more like Fostoria #95. But it's most likely not US made. I have those colored salts and some do have an English registration number. I can't find it in any of the English catalog images I have. I guess we'll have to wait for Mary to pick it and research it thoroughly.

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Yes Debi, Definitely looks like the Fostoria 95. I guess a lot of firms copied them. I do not have any with any registration marks or numbers in them. Mine are all plain. Did they not realise we would eventually want to know more about them. :)

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PJ - The Salty Nut01-27-201408:48 PM ET (US)IP: 76.113.35.137

Hey gang.... Didn't Inez create a file or a disk on doubles a year or two ago ??? Are we duplicating this ???Lots of pretties... but everyone has already seen all of mine... do you really want to see them again ??Keep posting all your new pretties...I'm drooling over our newest members - Janelle's input... If I were still collecting... I'd be chasing after her !!!Beautiful input Janelle !!!



enough for now... painful to sit up for long... Love to all... The Salty Nut... P.J.

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Is'nt it amazing the variety of salts we all have. Looking back over this month and previous months, to see the vast collection of the beautiful salts that we have all accumulated is fantastic. Could you imagine if they were all exhibited together ? I must admit that sometimes I think I have collected enough, then you all start showing your treasures and I am caught up again. Thank you everyone and also a continued thank you to Debi for making it all possible to be part of this group that understands and shares this obsession for collecting salts.J

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Hi P.J. - The book Inez wrote was of her salts only and this topic board is for anyone and everyone to share their collections on a monthly basis - Inez will post her doubles and condiments and any other salts she has written books on here also to share her collection with us - So there is no duplication of her book with this topic as some of us - I know it is hard to believe - just might have a double salt she does not - lol lol -- Please keep posting your salts here even if they have been shown before - We are also keeping track of how many categories a single salt can show up in and also sometimes we may attain a new one and it did not make it in a previous topic but can be shone in a current topic -Last month was frosted and there were a couple of frosted doubles that also show here and may have shown in one of our animal topics -- It is just a fun way for us to share our salts with each other as the chances of us all making it to each others homes is quite slim -- Although that accomplishment is on my Salt Bucket List - lol lol - But then living long enough to do it is on there too --- (Make note to self - Get Janelle and Jytte to move closer ...)So please share your salts with us P.J. - I can re-drool on a moments notice -- Take care and thanks for stopping by on one of your few sitting times -

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I believe what Inez was putting together several years ago for the West Virginia Museum of American Glass (WVMAG) was on center handled dishes and serving pieces. That included a lot of double salts and several salt collectors sent pictures to Inez. If she has a book on salts I am unaware of it but I'm sure she'll let us know about it.Yes, there would be times when a salt will fit into several categories and maybe even month after month. They should still be posted even if we just saw them one or two months ago. If we never reposted items then I guess this monthly topic would be obsolete. The other day I went through some of the past topics and ended up spending well over an hour just looking at what everyone else has. It's a fun way to pass some time. The diversity of open salts is truly amazing. Anyone remember first seeing the H&J book 5000 Open Salts and thinking there couldn't possibly be that many? Turns out there's more than 10



times that amount! I wish more people would post pictures regularly, but we still see plenty to drool over, don't we?What Janelle said is very true. Many years ago, I remember that meetings were the only time to see other's salts and talk about them. And that was only true for people who got a chance to attend meetings. Quick Topic has changed that and it helps keep our collections on our minds much more often. And it easily brings people together from all over the world. So glad we have people from Australia, Denmark and Canada who chat here regularly with us. I know there are a lot more lurkers I wish would join in. We'd love to hear about and see more collections. Maybe people don't know they can type in any language they want and we can translate it. And they could do the same. It's very easy to do now with a simple click on the mouse.

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Debi - I do believe we are talking about the same "publication" - I referred to her DVD or disc for The Museum as a book because I thought that was her terminology - It was on center handles and is marvelous - As far as I know there is no hard copy book --

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Clear glass double to the amber one I posted earlier

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Small flat double

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Clear glass double

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Standing Black Forest Bear

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On all fours ---

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All fours on round base

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High stepper

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Reclining lion

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Not a Lady Like position

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St Bernard

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Horned thingy

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Mary Kern01-29-2014



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Found the shade

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Small double center handle Champleve

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Plated stand glass bowls

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Miniature doubles

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Was just going to post a few - but got running through my folders and this is all I have pictures of - So my posting is through -- Good night or Good morning depending on what area of the country and world you are in and how late or early you go to or get up from beddy bye -- Which is where I am heading --

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Sue Sawyer01-30-201407:17 AM ET (US)IP: 173.88.45.26

WOW, Mary. You went out in a blaze of glory. What a super collection of doubles! I think I need to visit you real soon.Sue

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E. Jane Koble01-30-201412:16 PM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189

Yes, we both need to visit, Sue. I can't believe I don't have one of those bears on all four feet. Have to keep looking!Jane

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Got a small house - so will have to clear out some of the salts if you are both coming - Bring an empty suitcase - m

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Susie P01-30-201402:38 PM ET (US)IP: 166.147.104.169

Oh, forgot I have a bear! Just one, lol!

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Nancy Villaverde01-30-2014

I had one cute bear with a double salt, but I sold it. Sometimes I wonder why I let to many of my salts go, but then I remember all the ones I kept adding to make up for them.



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eak, I am so far behind. Not sure if I did this one.

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Yep, already posted. But I like that new click for all messages, really quick look.

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Another of my unknowns, c1900-1920

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And another, same time frame. I know I have seen two of these....

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Inez Austin01-30-2014



11:09 PM ET (US)IP: 50.106.8.45

Meisenthal, 1882, item 1224,

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Is it possible that what we call a double with a toothpick holder is actually a small vase or posy? There's a catalog image of one of these that looks like it has a small fitting to hold a flower so it can't fall out.

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Inez Austin01-31-201401:28 AM ET (US)IP: 50.106.8.45

Can you imagine water spilling on the dry contents.....

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More unknowns

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An old French one, note the ovals on the sides.

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I need to find that catalog image so you can see what I mean. Makes it look like it would be hard for any liquid to spill out unless you turned it upside down...and if you did that, why worry if the spices were wet or not all over the table? Already a lost cause.I'm going to change over to the china and other material doubles in a



little bit. I didn't sleep again last night so I may be turning in early this evening. If anyone has more to add, just use the last month link at the top of the page.

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E. Jane Koble02-04-201404:13 PM ET (US)IP: 71.58.137.189 I missed this one entirely. Very heavy glass and beautiful color.

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Susie P02-04-201404:15 PM ET (US)IP: 166.147.104.156

It is Gorgeous, Jane

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Nancy C Villaverde02-08-201406:14 PM ET (US)IP: 76.183.241.97 Putting my teal divided salt that appears to match Jane's vaseline one

in the correct category.

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WoW - the two of them together is quite impressive - Love both colors !!!

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I was just adding another old catalog picture to Zabkowice, Poland and noticed that the last two salt pictures posted look a lot like one shown in the 1910 and 1920 catalogs.

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Nancy C Villaverde02-20-201405:41 PM ET (US)IP: 76.183.241.97

Right you are, Debi. #79 looks like the outside profile, and #80 seems to show a central divider. I remember posting my green one some time ago and one of the collectors knowledgeable about older salts suggesting a possible country of origin, but I've lost track of any information I had. I may be thinking of a vaseline one about this size that isn't divided. I'm thinking an attribution to Poland is likely. I've never heard of the name Zabkowice--place or factory? I'll check that now.

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Nancy C Villaverde02-21-2014

Debi, a similar salt is also shown in H&J, page 279 in the Edward Moore & Co. catalog reprint, #302. Just happened to see it in passing.



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