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Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/2007

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Dealing with those who are walking disorderlyThat Their Souls Might Be Saved2

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/20072Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved

J.D. Tant, Ancient Landmarks, Vol. XI, No. 4, April 1976It is no accident that we are depicted as the family of God. We are spiritually brothers and sisters in the household of God . . . This is no superficial relationship of people who get together on Sundays for a good time. God decreed that these ties of the spiritual family are deeper even than the cherished, but fleshly, parent child relationship (Mat. 10:34-39). 3


J.D. Tant, Ancient Landmarks, Vol. XI, No. 4, April 1976But in order to have such family solidarity, there must be discipline. To have unifying love at the expense of purity in faith and life is an exercise in self-destruction. The forces of love and discipline are not mutually antagonistic, but rather complementary. When you think of the environment of the physical family, you understand that where either of these elements is missing you have a flawed structure. So it is with the Lords family - the church.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved4


J.D. Tant, Ancient Landmarks, Vol. XI, No. 4, April 1976But we have extremist on two fronts who seemingly stress one almost to the exclusion of the other. Some cry for love, tolerance, fellowship and brotherhood, stressing unity no matter how deviant in life or doctrine one may become. On the other hand are the professional purifiers who go from place to place and person to person seeking witches whom they may condemn to the flames ignited within their own crucibles of self-righteous indignation. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved5


J.D. Tant, Ancient Landmarks, Vol. XI, No. 4, April 1976. . . We encourage parents to strike a happy balance within the family sphere so that firm discipline and loving acceptance can work together in bringing children to fruitful maturity. That fruitful maturity is the same goal we have for the spiritual man, and the Bible teaches the same recipe of firm discipline coupled with loving obedience.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved6


J.D. Tant, Ancient Landmarks, Vol. XI, No. 4, April 1976In fact, these two cannot properly exist without the other. Separation, discipline, is good and proper, but if it is not separation from the motivation of love, it deteriorates into the works of true flesh - - factions, divisions, parties. And while unity is most desired, there is that which is worse than division - unity and compromise with error either in faith and morals. Balance is needed, and Gods word certainly gives the formula for success.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved7

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/20077Disciplineteaching / encouragement / rebuke / correction / punishmentLoveMotivation, (for truth & holiness / for the souls of men)Expression, (word & deed - before, during & after)

As necessary as punitive action is - an over-emphasis is destructive! - Eph 6:4; 2 Cor 2:7As necessary as love is - an over-emphasis that neglects punishment is destructive! - 1 Cor 5:1,2; Heb 12:6Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved8

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200781 Thessalonians 5:14-15 (NKJV) 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. be patient with all.

14 Now we exhort you, brethren,Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved9


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Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200711We live in the world but we are not to be of the world - John 15:19; John 17:15-16We are not to be conformed to the world - Rom 12:2; cf. Mat 5:13-16We are to be separate from the world - 2 Cor. 6:14-17We are not to have friendship with the world - Jam. 4:4 We are not to love the world - 1 John 2:15

We are to withdraw from / not to have fellowship with the world

Doesnt mean 1. To cut off all contact -2. To be unfriendly towards people in the world -3. That we with hold expressing our love for people in the worldDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved12

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200712We live in the world but we are not to be of the world - John 15:19; John 17:15-16We are not to be conformed to the world - Rom 12:2; cf. Mat 5:13-16We are to be separate from the world - 2 Cor. 6:14-17We are not to have friendship with the world - Jam. 4:4 We are not to love the world - 1 John 2:15

We are to withdraw from / not to have fellowship with the world


Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200713Matthew 18:15-17.Romans 16:17-20.1 Corinthians 5:1-13.1 Thessalonians 5:12-14.2 Thessalonians 3:6-15.James 5:19-20.Jude 1:21,22

Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved14


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV) 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. A private matter should remain a private matter as long as the one in the wrong repents at his brothers rebukeDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved15


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV) 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. At this point, the error is still contained within a private sphere - Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved16


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV) 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. If the sinner does not repent - the sin would become publicDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved17


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV) 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. If the sinner refuses to repent - they are to be treated like a sinner. They are unclean and no longer to be treated as though they were in fellowship.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved18


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV) 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. Does NOT mean there can be NO contact at all - or that we can treat them unlovingly, unkindly, without compassion or rudely!Not the way the Scribes & Pharisees treated the heathen & publicans but as Jesus treated them - (Luke 5:27-32; 7:36-39) Note the context: concern for the lost, (10-14), the need for forgiveness for the erring, (21-35)Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved19


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13The mans sin - vs. 1The congregations attitude and actions toward the man and his sin - puffed up & not mourned - vs. 2He was still an active participant. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved20


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13No longer to be recognized as a faithful member -To be informed of, and treated as one in Satans kingdom - NOT Gods -Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved21


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13To NOT be allowed to have active involvement in the local church & its benefits.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved22


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13VWS -company ()Only here and 2 Thessalonians 3:14. The translation company is inadequate, but cannot perhaps be bettered. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved23


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13VWS -company ()The word is compounded of together, up and down among, and, to mingle. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved24


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13VWS -company ()It denotes, therefore, not only close, but habitual, intercourse.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved25


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13Not just association, but the type of association.Not to associate with them as comrades.We are to hate his sin, but not treat him as one hatedDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved26


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13No not to eatJesus ate with publicans & sinners - did not denote fellowship Lk 5:27-32; 19:1-10Even though most viewed it as such - cf. Gal 2:11-13Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved27


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13No not to eatMerely eating with unbelievers does not necessarily denote fellowship with them - a matter of liberty - 1 Cor 10:23-33Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved28


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13No not to eatLinked to previous points on withdrawal of fellowship.The type of eating forbidden is that which grows out of, or a result of fellowship.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved29


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . Might be taken away from among you (vs 2).To deliver such an one unto Satan (vs 5).Purge out (vs 7).Not to company with (vs 9).Not to keep company (vs 11).With such an one no not to eat (vs 11).Put away from among yourselves (verse 13).1 Corinthians 5:1-13No not to eatThey had all things in common and ate bread from house to house - Acts 2:42-47Paul is speaking of their actions as a spiritual family.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved30


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . 6- we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly10 . . . If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (NKJV) DisorderlyTo be out of rankNeither shall he eatNot to be allowed to mooch off the churchDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved31


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . 6- we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly10 . . . If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (NKJV) BusybodiesNot busy in their own work, but preoccupied with the work of othersDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved32


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (NKJV) Note / MarkWe are to distinguish by marking.Identify him for what he is.We are not to associate with him as a brother14 And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved33


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (NKJV) Not as an enemyWe must not treat the withdrawn as an enemy (one who is hated, odious, thushostile to him).14 And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved34


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . 14 And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (NKJV) Admonish him as a brotherWe are to admonish (warn, exhort, encourage). Our desire is to save them. So when we have contact, we try to urge them to repent.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved35

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200735Galatians 6:1-3 (NKJV) 1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. You who are spiritualNot a super Christian but one who bears the fruit of the Spirit (5:22,23)RestoreHelp them to return to where they should be.

We Should Be Striving To RestoreDealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved36

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200736Galatians 6:1-3 (NKJV) 1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. in a spirit of meeknessMy attitude & approachWho am I working with and what Im trying to accomplish.

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We Should Be Striving To RestoreGalatians 6:1-3 (NKJV) 1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. in a spirit of meeknessPeople need to be handled differently. Some are very fragile and easily wounded.Each situation is different and demands different approaches.Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved38


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . With the WorldDo not have all things in commonTo shine / saltTeach to convertExpose sinIn the churchHaving all things in commonSharing all thingsWorking together in spiritual thingsAssociations / Relationship Different Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved39


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . The WithdrawnDo not have all things in commonTo shine / saltTeach to convertExpose sinIn the churchHaving all things in commonSharing all thingsWorking together in spiritual thingsAssociations / Relationship Different Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved40


Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . The church is a restricted society, but we do not exist isolated from the world. We can't influence the world without being in it. Nor can the church have its proper influence on the world if we complacently allow the world to have its effect on us! Same principles are true in dealing with those who have been witdrawn from.



Withdrawing fellowship from those who walk disorderly is a command of the Lord . . . We must be balanced in our approach to church discipline - stern, but gentle - strong, but tender hearted, opposing sin but merciful and encouraging the sinner to repent, but patient.All that we do must be done with love, but if our actions do not convey love, our actions will be ineffective.


Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200742Luke 15:1-7 (NKJV) 1 Then all the tax collectors and the sinners drew near to Him to hear Him. 2 And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, "This Man receives sinners and eats with them." 3 So He spoke this parable to them, saying: 4 "What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it?


Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200743Luke 15:1-7 (NKJV) 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.



Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200745Charts by Don McClainPrepared March 9,10, 2013Preached March 10, 2013West 65th Street church of ChristP.O. Box 190062Little Rock AR 72219501-568-1062Prepared using KeynoteEmail [email protected] More Keynote, PPT & Audio Sermons:http://w65stchurchofchrist.org/coc/sermons/ Note Many of the transition effects used in this presentation will be lost using PPT 2007 Viewerhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cb9bf144-1076-4615-9951-294eeb832823&displaylang=en Dealing with those who are walking disorderly That Their Souls Might Be Saved46

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200746Matthew 18:10-21 (NKJV) 10 "Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. 11 For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. 12 What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? 13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 47

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200747Matthew 18:10-21 (NKJV) 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish. 15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. 48

Don McClainW. 65th St church of Christ - 9/16/200748Matthew 18:10-21 (NKJV) 18 Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them." 21 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"

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