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Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 1
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Matthew Sherman’s Comments to 802.19 P&P
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Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 2
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Summary • Comment 1 – Section 2 – The P&P must have a procedure for electing officers.
• Comment 2 – General – State that a membership list will be maintained by the TAG.
• Comment 3 – General – The P&P needs a section on rules for an appeal.
• Comment 4 – Section 2.2 – Mat recommended that the vice chair be elected instead of being appointed.
• Comment 5 – General – The P&P needs to include an order of precedence of other documents (802 P&P, Roberts Rules).
• Comment 6 – Section 1 – The section on the functions of the TAG is not necessary. Check other WG P&P.
• Comment 7 – Section 5.1.2 – In section on interim sessions always say "interim sessions" not just "sessions."
• Comment 8 – Section 5.2 – Under maintenance of the P&P say it has to be at a plenary or electronic ballot.
• Comment 9 – Section 6 – Reference voting rules in 802 (in a meeting and electronically).
• Comment 10 – Section 5.2 – Drop the rule that says the SEC needs to approve a revised P&P.
• Comment 11 – Section 6.2 – What is a "Charter?"
• Comment 12 – Section 6 – Clarify that the TAG comments on aspects of the draft that affect coexistence and the CA document.
• Comment 13 – Section 6.2.3 and 6.2.4 – Why do individuals mark comments as binding or non-binding since the algorithm does not utilize that information?
• Comment 14 – Section 6.2.3 – Clarify what to do with the comments that receive support of over 25% and less than 2/3.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 3
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 1 – Section 2
• Comment: The P&P must have a procedure for electing officers.
• Resolution: Add: Chair and vice chair shall be elected by majority vote at a Plenary session.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 4
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 2 – General
• State that a membership list will be maintained by the TAG.
• Add: Chair is responsible for maintenance of the TAG membership list.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 5
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Submission
Comment 3 – General
• The P&P needs a section on rules for an appeal.
• Add: – The membership may override a decision by the chair with a 75%
of members who vote “yes” or “no” on the appeal.– An individual not satisfied by TAG resolution of an appeal shall
be referred to the Executive Committee of the LSMC.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 6
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Submission
Comment 4 – Section 2.2
• Mat recommended that the vice chair be elected instead of being appointed.
• Done
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 7
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 5 – General
• The P&P needs to include an order of precedence of other documents (802 P&P, Roberts Rules).
• Declined: this is specified by our chartering organization pp5, section 1 of March 2005 802 P&P.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 8
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 6 – Section 1
• The section on the functions of the TAG is not necessary. Check other WG P&P.
• Declined, this describes the scope of the group. It is informative and helps the reader to set context. This is just like section 2 of the 802 P&P that describes the LMSC scope.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 9
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 7 – Section 5.1.2
• In section on interim sessions always say "interim sessions" not just "sessions.“
• OK
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 10
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 8 – Section 5.2
• Under maintenance of the P&P say it has to be at a plenary or electronic ballot.
• Add: (3) Votes must be taken either at plenary meetings or by electronic ballot.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 11
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 9 – Section 6
• Reference voting rules in 802 (in a meeting and electronically).
• Declined: not clear what need there is for a reference to LMSC rules when they have precedence.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 12
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 10 – Section 5.2
• Drop the rule that says the SEC needs to approve a revised P&P.
• Accepted
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 13
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 11 – Section 6.2
• What is a "Charter?“
• Accepted reworded:
– The TAG supports the creation…
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 14
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 12 – Section 6
• Clarify that the TAG comments on aspects of the draft that affect coexistence and the CA document.
• Declined: Section 1 states: “The TAG also votes as a body on coexistence issues in wireless working group letter ballots that are accompanied by coexistence assurance (CA) documents.” Also, section 6.2.2 states: “TAG members evaluate the CA document and draft to determine the correctness or completeness of the CA document.”
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 15
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 13 – Section 6.2.3 and 6.2.4
• Why do individuals mark comments as binding or non-binding since the algorithm does not utilize that information?
• Declined: The TAG does use the attribute to determine if the lack of satisfaction of the comment will prevent TAG approval of a CA document.
Sept 2005
Tom Siep, Cambridge Silicon Radio Plc
Slide 16
doc.: IEEE 802.19-05/0036r0
Submission
Comment 14 – Section 6.2.3
• Clarify what to do with the comments that receive support of over 25% and less than 2/3.
• Accepted: will reword to make it clearer: “…it shall be identified as a binding comment”