something happened?

A No, no.

0231 You didn't say - - -

A I told him that I remember something, I remember him, something

happening at my house but nothing at all there.

0232 What do you recall happening at your house?

A All I remember is that he stayed over one night and I don't , I have

very, very vague recollection of anything else, but I thought when he

called up and when he first complained about something, I thought he

was referring to an incident that happened at my house, but I don't

even recall what actually happened, I just remembered that he was

there one night, that's all.

0233 And can you tell me which house this was?

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remembered or recalled that incident, he seemed to only recall, but

maybe he did I don't know, he seemed to only recall that particular

incident that happened at the camp.

0234 So what exactly do you recall about what happened at 'd!'j''!'' ie1·re11>

A Just remember he slept over, I don't remember more details than that.

0235 Do you have any recollection of touching him that night?

No. A

0236 Did you indecently assault ._f v_s _______ __,lat any stage?

A Not to my knowledge, not to my recollection.

0237 So you don't remember?

A I don't remember, correct yes.

0238 So earlier in our conversation we spoke about Rabbi Lesches.

A MmmMmm.

0239 And him speaking to you.

A MmmMmm.

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about.

A As I said , no I, I did tell you, he told me that I should simply keep

away, that's it.

0241 O.K. But he didn't give you a reason as to why you should keep

away?

A I think it was, I think it was, he just told me to keep away, that's what

he told me, yeah.

Q242 Did any other Rabbi speak to you about staying away from other

boys?

A You know I, I, I do have a vague recollection of Rabbi Feldman

speaking to me, but I don't really remember much details or anything

specific at all.

0243 And can you tell me which Rabbi that was?

A Rabbi Feldman.

Q244 Is that Rabbi Pinchus Feldman?

A That's the one, yeah, yeah.

Q245 What did he say to you?

A I honestly do not recall the , the conversation, just remember the

incident taking place.

Q246 What context was the conversation in, about?

A Similar thing to what Rabbi Lesches spoke about, to keep away.

Q247 From the younger boys?

A Yes, yes.

Q248 So I don't know if you've seen, in the media there was a, an email

release, which was an email between yourself and Debbie Fox.

A MmmMmm.

Q249 Can you tell me who Debbie Fox is?

A She is, she used to work for an organisation called Jewish Family

Services in Los Angeles, and she was a, like a counsellor type of

person, yeah.

Q250 [13: 19:33] And can you tell me what your involvement with her was?

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