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Low interest rates, market power, and productivity growth by Liu, Mian and Su Alberto Martin ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE October 7, 2019 Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 1 / 17

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Page 1: Discussion on low interest rates, market power, and productivity … · 2019-10-08 · Low interest rates, market power, and productivity growth by Liu, Mian and Su– Alberto Martin

Low interest rates, market power, and productivitygrowth

by Liu, Mian and Sufi

Alberto Martin

ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE

October 7, 2019

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 1 / 17

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Overview

In recent years: significant decline in real interest rates

Source of concern?I Excessive risk-taking?I Misallocation of resources?

This paper:I Very low interest rates stifle competition.I Ultimately, low productivity growth (i.e., secular stagnation).I Theory and empirical evidence.

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Theory

In principle: low interest rates have mixed effects.I Pro-competitive: make it easier for follower to catch up.I Anti-competitive: make it easier for leader to sustain leadership.

Which one dominates?

This paper: for r low enough, anti-competitive effect.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 3 / 17

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Theory

In principle: low interest rates have mixed effects.I Pro-competitive: make it easier for follower to catch up.I Anti-competitive: make it easier for leader to sustain leadership.

Which one dominates?

This paper: for r low enough, anti-competitive effect.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 3 / 17

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Theory

In principle: low interest rates have mixed effects.I Pro-competitive: make it easier for follower to catch up.I Anti-competitive: make it easier for leader to sustain leadership.

Which one dominates?

This paper: for r low enough, anti-competitive effect.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 3 / 17

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Theory: main ingredients

Continuum of industries with a leader and a follower, Bertrand competition.

Marginal cost of each firm decreasing in productivity.

Model state variable s: productivity gap between leader and follower.

Given R&D investment by leader and follower (ηs , η−s ) in interval ∆,productivity gap:

I Increases by one step with probability ∆ · ηs .I Decreases by one step with probability ∆ ·

(η−s + κ

).

I Remains constant otherwise.

Assumption: flow payoffs negative if both firms invest.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 4 / 17

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Theory: main ingredients

Continuum of industries with a leader and a follower, Bertrand competition.

Marginal cost of each firm decreasing in productivity.

Model state variable s: productivity gap between leader and follower.

Given R&D investment by leader and follower (ηs , η−s ) in interval ∆,productivity gap:

I Increases by one step with probability ∆ · ηs .I Decreases by one step with probability ∆ ·

(η−s + κ

).

I Remains constant otherwise.

Assumption: flow payoffs negative if both firms invest.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 4 / 17

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Theory: main ingredients

Continuum of industries with a leader and a follower, Bertrand competition.

Marginal cost of each firm decreasing in productivity.

Model state variable s: productivity gap between leader and follower.

Given R&D investment by leader and follower (ηs , η−s ) in interval ∆,productivity gap:

I Increases by one step with probability ∆ · ηs .I Decreases by one step with probability ∆ ·

(η−s + κ

).

I Remains constant otherwise.

Assumption: flow payoffs negative if both firms invest.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 4 / 17

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Theory: main ingredients

Continuum of industries with a leader and a follower, Bertrand competition.

Marginal cost of each firm decreasing in productivity.

Model state variable s: productivity gap between leader and follower.

Given R&D investment by leader and follower (ηs , η−s ) in interval ∆,productivity gap:

I Increases by one step with probability ∆ · ηs .I Decreases by one step with probability ∆ ·

(η−s + κ

).

I Remains constant otherwise.

Assumption: flow payoffs negative if both firms invest.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 4 / 17

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Theory: main ingredients

Continuum of industries with a leader and a follower, Bertrand competition.

Marginal cost of each firm decreasing in productivity.

Model state variable s: productivity gap between leader and follower.

Given R&D investment by leader and follower (ηs , η−s ) in interval ∆,productivity gap:

I Increases by one step with probability ∆ · ηs .I Decreases by one step with probability ∆ ·

(η−s + κ

).

I Remains constant otherwise.

Assumption: flow payoffs negative if both firms invest.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 4 / 17

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Theory: main results (steady state)

Result #1: leader invests in more states than follower, n ≥ k.

I Intuition: suppose k > n, leadership is short-lived.

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Theory: main results (steady state)

Result #1: leader invests in more states than follower, n ≥ k.Corollary: competitive and monopolistic region.

Main result: limr→0 k = ∞ and limr→0(n− k) = ∞.I Both k → ∞ and n → ∞I Two possibilities: (i) (n− k)→ ∞ or (ii) (n− k)→ 0I Suppose (n− k)→ 0

F Leader and follower invest in all states.F Economy is always in the competitive region.F Flow payoffs negative!

Ultimately, all industries monopolistic, decline in productivity growth!

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Theory: main results (steady state)

Result #1: leader invests in more states than follower, n ≥ k.Corollary: competitive and monopolistic region.

Main result: limr→0 k = ∞ and limr→0(n− k) = ∞.I Both k → ∞ and n → ∞I Two possibilities: (i) (n− k)→ ∞ or (ii) (n− k)→ 0I Suppose (n− k)→ 0

F Leader and follower invest in all states.F Economy is always in the competitive region.F Flow payoffs negative!

Ultimately, all industries monopolistic, decline in productivity growth!

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 6 / 17

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Theory: main results (steady state)

Result #1: leader invests in more states than follower, n ≥ k.Corollary: competitive and monopolistic region.

Main result: limr→0 k = ∞ and limr→0(n− k) = ∞.I Both k → ∞ and n → ∞I Two possibilities: (i) (n− k)→ ∞ or (ii) (n− k)→ 0I Suppose (n− k)→ 0

F Leader and follower invest in all states.F Economy is always in the competitive region.F Flow payoffs negative!

Ultimately, all industries monopolistic, decline in productivity growth!

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 6 / 17

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Empirics: main results

Theory’s main prediction: at low levels of r ...I ...a decline in r should increase the relative valuation of leaders vs. followers

Regress firm stock return on 10-year treasury yield:

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + β2Di ,j ,t−1 · it−1+β3Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it · it−1 + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

where Di ,j is an “industry leader”dummy

Theoretical predictions:I β1 < 0I β3 > 0I Confirmed in their data (post 1980)

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Empirics: main results

Theory’s main prediction: at low levels of r ...I ...a decline in r should increase the relative valuation of leaders vs. followers

Regress firm stock return on 10-year treasury yield:

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + β2Di ,j ,t−1 · it−1+β3Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it · it−1 + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

where Di ,j is an “industry leader”dummy

Theoretical predictions:I β1 < 0I β3 > 0I Confirmed in their data (post 1980)

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 7 / 17

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Empirics: main results

Theory’s main prediction: at low levels of r ...I ...a decline in r should increase the relative valuation of leaders vs. followers

Regress firm stock return on 10-year treasury yield:

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + β2Di ,j ,t−1 · it−1+β3Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it · it−1 + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

where Di ,j is an “industry leader”dummy

Theoretical predictions:I β1 < 0I β3 > 0I Confirmed in their data (post 1980)

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General reaction

Very rich (and long!) paper.

Provocative message, elegant model, and suggestive empirics.

My discussion: general comments.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 8 / 17

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On the theory

After all is said and done, main question lingers.I Why does anticompetitive effect dominate?

F Strengthen intuition, concentrate discussion in one section.F Horizon of leader vs. horizon of follower

I Formally, what is the role of κ?

Main result relies on unbounded returns as r → 0.I Formally, it is firms’discount rate that goes to zero.I But this rate could be positive even at very low interest rates.

F e.g. risk of expropriation, obsolescence...

In model, number of industries (varieties) fixed.I Low r improves performance of leader.I But low r could also allow development of new industries.

F e.g. horse-carriage industry vs. development of combustion engine!

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 9 / 17

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On the theory

After all is said and done, main question lingers.I Why does anticompetitive effect dominate?

F Strengthen intuition, concentrate discussion in one section.F Horizon of leader vs. horizon of follower

I Formally, what is the role of κ?

Main result relies on unbounded returns as r → 0.I Formally, it is firms’discount rate that goes to zero.I But this rate could be positive even at very low interest rates.

F e.g. risk of expropriation, obsolescence...

In model, number of industries (varieties) fixed.I Low r improves performance of leader.I But low r could also allow development of new industries.

F e.g. horse-carriage industry vs. development of combustion engine!

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 9 / 17

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On the theory

After all is said and done, main question lingers.I Why does anticompetitive effect dominate?

F Strengthen intuition, concentrate discussion in one section.F Horizon of leader vs. horizon of follower

I Formally, what is the role of κ?

Main result relies on unbounded returns as r → 0.I Formally, it is firms’discount rate that goes to zero.I But this rate could be positive even at very low interest rates.

F e.g. risk of expropriation, obsolescence...

In model, number of industries (varieties) fixed.I Low r improves performance of leader.I But low r could also allow development of new industries.

F e.g. horse-carriage industry vs. development of combustion engine!

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 9 / 17

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Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 10 / 17

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On the theory

I After all is said and done, main question lingers.I Why does anticompetitive effect dominate?

F Strengthen intuition, concentrate discussion in one section.F Horizon of leader vs. horizon of follower

I Formally, what is the role of κ?

Main result relies on unbounded returns as r → 0.I Formally, it is firms’discount rate that goes to zero.I But this rate could be positive even at very low interest rates.

F e.g. risk of expropriation, obsolescence...

In model, number of industries (varieties) fixed.I Low r improves performance of leader.I But low r could also allow development of new industries.

F e.g. horse-carriage industry vs. development of combustion engine!

Key takeaway of model: decline in r could have anticompetitive effects.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 11 / 17

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On the empirics

Basic mechanism of the theory

Decline ininterest rates

Industry monopolistic:leader increases investmentrelative to follower

Decline inproductivity growth

Empirical exercise:Decline of interest rates on relative

return of leaders

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On the empirics

Basic mechanism of the theory

Decline ininterest rates

Industry monopolistic:leader increases investmentrelative to follower

Decline inproductivity growth

Empirical exercise:Decline of interest rates on relative

return of leaders

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On the empirics

Basic mechanism of the theory

Decline ininterest rates

Industry monopolistic:leader increases investmentrelative to follower

Decline inproductivity growth

Empirical exercise:Decline of interest rates on relative

return of leaders

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 14 / 17

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On the empirics

Basic mechanism of the theory

Decline ininterest rates

Industry monopolistic:leader increases investmentrelative to follower

Decline inproductivity growth

Empirical exercise:Decline of interest rates on relative

return of leaders

But ∆r could raise return of leaders for many reasons:I Enable firms of certain size (i.e., leaders) to upgrade technology (e.g.Melitz-type model).

I In such a case, productivity growth need not decrease.

More direct evidence?I Effect of ∆r on R&D or productivity growth.I Differential effects of ∆r across industries (depending on contestability).

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 15 / 17

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On the empirics

Basic mechanism of the theory

Decline ininterest rates

Industry monopolistic:leader increases investmentrelative to follower

Decline inproductivity growth

Empirical exercise:Decline of interest rates on relative

return of leaders

But ∆r could raise return of leaders for many reasons:I Enable firms of certain size (i.e., leaders) to upgrade technology (e.g.Melitz-type model).

I In such a case, productivity growth need not decrease.

More direct evidence?I Effect of ∆r on R&D or productivity growth.I Differential effects of ∆r across industries (depending on contestability).

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 15 / 17

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On the empirics II

∆r stifles competition when r is low.

I Split sample into high- and low- r and run

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

separately in subsamples.I Prediction: sign of β1 should change

Regressions use nominal interest rates.I Real interest rates matter for theory.I Significant fluctuations in inflation during sample.I I would stick to real.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 16 / 17

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On the empirics II

∆r stifles competition when r is low.I Split sample into high- and low- r and run

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

separately in subsamples.

I Prediction: sign of β1 should change

Regressions use nominal interest rates.I Real interest rates matter for theory.I Significant fluctuations in inflation during sample.I I would stick to real.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 16 / 17

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On the empirics II

∆r stifles competition when r is low.I Split sample into high- and low- r and run

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

separately in subsamples.I Prediction: sign of β1 should change

Regressions use nominal interest rates.I Real interest rates matter for theory.I Significant fluctuations in inflation during sample.I I would stick to real.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 16 / 17

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On the empirics II

∆r stifles competition when r is low.I Split sample into high- and low- r and run

Ri ,j ,t = αj ,t + β0Di ,j ,t−1 + β1Di ,j ,t−1 · ∆it + γXi ,j ,t + εi ,j ,t

separately in subsamples.I Prediction: sign of β1 should change

Regressions use nominal interest rates.I Real interest rates matter for theory.I Significant fluctuations in inflation during sample.I I would stick to real.

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 16 / 17

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Conclusions

Very thought provoking paper.

Key takeaways:I Theory: declines in r could have anticompetitive effects.I Empirics: declines in r appear to benefit large firms.

F Is this bad for productivity growth?

Martin (ECB, CREI and Barcelona GSE) Low interest rates October 7, 2019 17 / 17