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SECTION: News; DomesticLENGTH: 8414 wordsHEADLINE: What Did Bush Know of Warnings Before 9-11?GUESTS: Ron Wyden, Pat Roberts, Alison Mitchell, Mike Allen, Douglas Brinkley, DeborahShapley, Robert DallekBYLINE: Jonathan Karl, Kelly Wallace, Kate SnowHIGHLIGHT:An old refrain echoes through Washington, What did he know and when did he know it, andwhy was it kept secret for so long?The U.S. Congress wants answers about the terror attackwarnings before September 11.BODY:THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BEUPDATED.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THEUNITED STATES: Had I known that the enemywasgoing to use airplanes to kill on that fateful morning, I would have done everything in mypower to protect the American people.(END VIDEO CLIP)JONATHAN KARL, HOST: An old refrain echoes through Washington, What did he know andwhen did he know it, and why was it kept secret for so long?Congress wants answers about the terror attack warnings before September 11. We'll talk tomembers of the Senate Intelligence Committee, RonWyden, Democrat of Oregon, and PatRoberts, Republican of Kansas and to reporters who cover the White House and the Hillabout the political fall out.Also, as another wartime president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, becomes a national obsessionwith a best selling book and a new made- for-TV movie, we'll talk to historians about thelessons of LBJ, overwhelmed by fighting a far and a credibility gap.

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SECTION: NATIONAL AFFAIRS; Pg. 28LENGTH: 3374 wordsHEADLINE: What Went WrongBYLINE: By M ichael H irsh and Michael Isikoff; With Daniel Klaidman, Mark Hosenball, EleanorClift, John Barry, Colin Soloway and Tam ara Lipper in Washington, A ndy M urr in Phoenix, JamieReno in San Diego and Christopher Dickey in ParisHIGHLIGHT:The inside story of the missed signals and intelligence failures that raise a chilling question: didSeptember 11 have to happen?BODY:Forget James B ond. Intelligence gathering is more like taking a metal detector to the city dump . Somuch comes in, rumor, hearsay, disinformation, so little of it more than trash: once in a blue moon anagent-prospector may get lucky. But even then an agent's w arning is likely to be dismissed as whatCondoleezza Rice last week called "chatter." "There's always TMI~too much information," says formeragent Milt Bearden. Often agents poke fun at the sometimes obsessive quirks of their colleagues."If a confidential mem orandum comes from a guy out in, say, Phoenix, the first thing that goes up theline is, 'That's Harry again. He's like a broken clock twice a day' ," one ex-agent says. Even today, longafter 9-11, streams of new threats pass unnoticed through Washington. In recent week s, for instance, theFB I has gotten specific threats abo ut a car- or truck-bomb attack on an "all-glass" building n ear the U.S.Capitol, and another threat against a Celebrity cruise ship off Florida. Neither w as corroborated, o rpublicized.Yet every now and then, amid the piles of dross, a nugget of pure gold turns up in intel files. The key forAmerican national securitynow and into the futureis to know it when we see it. Back in July 2001,Bill Kurtz and his team hit pay dirt, and no one seemed to care. A hard-driven supervisor in the FBI'sPhoenix office, Ku rtz was overseeing an investigation o f suspected Islamic terrorists last July wh en amember of his team, a sharp, 41-year-old counterterrorism agent named Kenneth Williams, noticedsomething odd: a large num ber of suspects w ere signing up to take courses in how to fly airplanes. Theagent's suspicions were further fueled when he heard that some of the men at the local Embry-RiddleAeronau tical University w ere asking a lot of questions about airport security.Kurtz, who had previously worked on the Osama bin Laden unit of the FBI's international terrorismsection, was convinced he and his colleagues m ight have stumbled o n to something bigg er. Kurtz's teamfired off a lengthy memo raising the possibility that bin Laden might be using U.S. flight schools toinfiltrate the country's civil-aviation system. "H e thinks of everything in terms of bin Laden," onecolleague recalled. The mem o outlined a proposal for the FBI to mon itor "civil aviationcolleges/universities around the country."Williams, the agent who sniffed out the link, was described by one former colleague as a "superstar," aformer SWA T sniper an d family man who coaches Little League and, in 1995, helped track downMichael Fortier, Timothy M cVeigh's former Army buddy. "Anything he says you can take to the bank,"

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September 18, 2002, Wedn esday, BC cycleSECTION: Washington DatelineLENGTH: 935 wordsHEADLINE: Intelligence agencies received hints of looming attacks before 9/11, investigators reportBYLINE: By KEN GUGGENHEIM, Associated Press WriterDATELINE: WASHINGTONBODY:American intelligence agencies received far mo re reports of terrorist plotting to use plan es as weaponsbefore Sept. 11 than the U.S. government has previously acknowledged, congressional investigators saidWednesday.While it was unclear whether any of the reports were in fact signs of the impending attacks on the World

^*$.Trade Center and Pentagon, investigators said the agencies neve r looked closely at the potential threat ofhijacked airliners flying into buildings. Those assertions came in a 30-page statement by Eleanor Hill,staff director for the House an d Senate intelligence inq uiry into the Sept. 11 attacks.Hill's statement was being presented to comm ittee mem bers Wednesday at the inquiry's first publichearings. Lawmakers have been meeting behind closed doors since June, looking into intelligencefailures leading up to the attacks and ho w they can be corrected."These pub lic hearings are part of our search for the truth - not to point fingers or pin blam e, but withthe goal of identifying and correcting whatever systemic problems might have prevented ourgovernment from detecting and disrupting al Qaida's plot," said Sen. Bob Graham, chairman of theSenate Intelligence Committee.Hill outlined 12 examples of intelligence info rmation on the possible terrorist use of airplanes asweapons, dating back to 1994. The last example occurred a month before the attacks, when intelligenceagencies were told of a possible bin Laden plot to bomb the U.S. embassy in Nairobi, Keny a, or crash aplane into it. But it contained no specifics pointing to the impending Sept. 11 attacks.In August 1998, U.S. intelligence learned that a "group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly anexplosive-laden plane from a foreign country into the World Trade Center," says the report. The reportwas given to the Federal Av iation A dm inistration and FB I, which took little action on it. The grou p maynow be linked to bin Laden, the report says.Other intelligence suggested that bin Laden supporters might crash a plane into a U.S. airport, orconduct a plot involving aircraft at New Yo rk and Washington, the report said.While generally aware of the possibility of this method of attack, "the Intelligence C ommu nity did not

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MARGARET WARNE R:Welcome, Ms. Rice, thanksfor joining us .CO N D O LE EZ Z A RICE :Thank you. It'snice to bewith you.

MARGARE T W ARN E R: As I 'm sure you know, theSenate Majority L eader, Tom Daschle, went angrily tothe Senate floor today an d accused the president ofpoliticizing this debate about going to war. What'syour response to that?Sen . Daschle's commentsC O N D O L E E Z Z A RIC E : The president has neverpoliticized this concern about war and the nationalsecurity of the A merican peo ple.The president believes that this is a time fo r unity ofthe American people's representatives and it'sExecutive Branch, which is why he made the decisionto go to Congress for the resolution to support -American activities to deal with the threat of SaddamHussein - and the article in question o r the comm entsin question that the president made were in the contextof homeland security and if you actually read thosecomm ents, the president said that some Senators hadhad a tendency to put special interests ahead ofnational security and he went o n to praise Democratsand Repub licans who w ere pulling together on thesecurity issues that face the American people.

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Condi and the 9/11 CommissionNational Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice is apparently not keenon going under oath for the Kean 9/11 commission.By TIMOTHY J. BURGER WASHINGTON

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Saturday, Dec. 20, 2003Poised to convene its first hard-hitting hearings in January, the federal commissioninvestigating the 9/11 attacks continues to be at odds with the White House over access tokey information and witnesses. Two government sources tell TIME that NationalSecurity Adviser Condoleezza Rice is arguing over ground rules for her appearance inpart because she does not want to testify under oath or, according to one source, inpublic. While national security advisers are presidential staff and generally don't have toappear before Congress, the commission argues that its jurisdiction is broaderand it'sbeen requiring fact witnesses in its massive investigation to testify under oath. Theexception: it may not seek to swear in President Bush, Vice President Cheney, BillClinton or Al Gore in the increasingly likely event they will be asked to speak to thecommission. "I think that it is in their interest to meet with us," says GOP commissionmember John Lehman, saying that they should be invited, not subpoenaed, and beallowed to appear behind closed doors.With such high-profile testimony in the offing, it's no wonder the commission chairman,Republican Tom Kean, was telling reporters last week to expect major revelations fromthe investigative hearings expected to begin in late January.He also suggested that the 9/11 attacks might have been prevented if mid-levelgovernment officials at various government agencies had done their jobs. As for seniorofficials like Rice or her predecessor, Clinton NSA Sandy Berger, and their bosses, Keansaid the commission was still studying whether they share the blame. Rice could facetough questioning. One Republican commissioner says a comment by Rice last yearthat no one "could have predicted that they would try to use a.. .hijacked airplane as amissile"was "an unfortunate comment... that was, of course, a wrong-footedstatement on its face," given that there was years of intelligence about Al Qaeda's interestin airplane attacks.Whether she signs up willingly to testify now is still an open question. But thecommission wants to hear from her. Said Democratic commissioner Tim Roemer: "ThePresidents and Vice Presidents and national security advisers in both administrationsshould appear." Spokesmen for Rice and the commission had no comment on the talksbut a senior Rice aide insisted that "Dr. Rice and the White House continue to workamiably with the commission, consistent with the President's desire to make staffavailable in accordance with his ability to fight the war on terrorism."


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iS.rint!Wsj>tory EE rmail IhisStoryTwo Loud WordsBy Wlliam Rivers Pittt r u t h o u 1 1 PerspectiveMonday 05 January 2004There have always been 'third-rail' issues inAmerican politics, subjects that, iftouched upon, will lead to certain political death. For a long while, and until veryrecently, Social Security was one of these issues.A new one, surrounding the attacksof September 11, hasbeen born in thispolitical season. If September 11 is discussed, the only allowable sub-topic to bebroached is whether or not the Bush administration is capable of keeping us safefrom another onslaught.Friday's edition of the Boston Globe had a case in point on the front page. Anarticle titled 'For Bush, Readiness is Key Issue' stated that, "In speech afterspeech, President Bush has emphasized his administration's pledge never to forgetthe lessons of Sept. 11. He says the top goal of his administration is to preventanother attack." The Globe article contained, in the next paragraph, thestandardized rejoinder: "And while Democratic opponents of the administration areunanimous in their hope that that vulnerability is not exposed with deadly results,they have also argued that Bush has done far too little to protect the country fromanother attack. He has refused to adequately reimburse state and local officials forhomeland security costs, they argue, and has ignored dangerous gaps in air cargo

and port security."Thus, the 'preparedness-gap' becomes the whittled-down talking point du jour.This is a whiff of colossal proportions, the implications of which will echo down thehalls of history unless someone develops enough spine to speak the truth into alarge microphone. The talking point is not difficult to manage. It was splashed ingaudy multi-point font across the front page of the New York Post in May of 2002.Tw o words: 'BushKnew.'It is, frankly, amazing that this has fallen down the memory hoe. Recall twoheadlines from that period. The first, from the UK Guardian on May 19, 2002, wastitled 'Bush Knew of Terrorist Plot to Hijack USPlanes.' The first three paragraphs

o f this story read:"George Bush received specific warnings in the weeks before 11 September thatan attack inside the United States was being planned by Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, US government sources said yesterday. In a top-secretintelligence memo headlined 'Bin Laden determined to strike in the US', thePresident was told on 6 August that the Saudi-born terrorist hoped to 'bring the fightto America' in retaliation for missile strikes on al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan in1998. Bush and his aides, who are facing withering criticism for failing to act on aseriesof warnings, have previously said intelligence expertshad notadvised them

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March 16, 2002 S aturdayLENGTH: 7726 wordsHEADLINE: Dr. Condole ezza Rice, national security adviser, discusses issues the Bushadm inistration is currently dealing withBODY:HOST: Tim RussertTIM RUSSERT: Good evening, and welcome again. Six months ago this weekend, Americaattacked on September llthl ike never before. At the president's side that day and everyforeign policy challenge that he confronts is our guest, the national security adviser, Dr.Condoleezza Rice.Welcome, Dr. Rice.Dr. CONDOLEEZZA RICE (National Security Adviser): Thank you, Tim. Nice to be with you.RUSSERT: Go back to September llthfor us. Tell us about that day.Dr. RICE: It wasan incredible day. I wasstanding at my desk when my executive assistantcame in and said a plane had hit the W orld Trade Ce nter. And I first had thought, 'What aterrible accident. ' And then when I learned later that a second plane had hit the W orld TradeCenter, I thought, This is a terrorist attack.' And I was, w i th thevice president, taken dow nto the bunker, w here , w ith the president on Air Force O ne and then later at Offutt Air ForceBase, w e began to try, first of all, to deal with th e situation of bringing airplanes down, ofof trying to secure the skies.B ut the, really, very interes ting thing a bout that was that, very early on, the president wasalready pretty focused on the fact that we were going to get these people who had done thisto us; that the United States w as going to respond de cisively. And he was very convincedalready that this was a global issue; that this wa s not just an issue of Am erican interests,but rather an attack upon freedom, an attack upon civilization. And those those words werethere in the very first meetings that we held.RUSSERT: We all we re shocked on the morning of September llth,but you weren'tsurprised that the terrorists tr ied som ething, w ere you?Dr. RICE: W e w e r e not surpr ised because we knew of al-Qaida. From the time that weentered office, w e had been told about this network global terrorist network that had begunto spread through the world, that had a very strong base of operations in Afghanistan. W eknew that they were implicated in the Cole bombing; that they had been blamed for thebombing of Am erica's em bassies in Kenya an d Tanzania back in 1998, and that, in fact, theywe re probably involved even as early as the W orld Trade Center. So we knew that this was adangerous terrorist organization.We also knew that there was a possibi li ty that the United S tates was vulnerable, but w ith allof that know ledge, i t's st il l not possible to know w hen so me thing is going to happen and howit's going to happen. And that they would use our openness against us , use the fact that w e

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SECTION: THE STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11LENGTH: 16136 wordsBYLINE: By Evan Thomas; This story was reported by T. Trent Gegax, Arian Campo-Flores,Alan Zarembo and Gretel C. Kovach. It was written by Evan ThomasHIGHLIGHT:September 11 dawned bright and clear, but was soon darkened by terror. The story of asurvivor, a killer and the vice president whose lives collided in hours of horror and heroismBODY:Virginia DiChiara did have a premonition that something wicked was on the way. DiChiara,whose office was on the 101st floor of the North Tower, had worried that the terrorists mightcome back to finish off the World Trade Center. She had been a block away, working atBankers Trust at 130 Liberty Street, when terrorists bombed the WTC in 1993. But in 2000,when she got a big job as director of audit for Cantor Fitzgerald, a bond-trading firm at thetop of the North Tower, she tried to put her fears out of her mind. Her corner office lookedout on the Statue of Liberty far below, at the brilliant sunsets and, in the distance, to theJersey shore, where she liked to go boating in the summer. Once a carefree sun worshiper,DiChiara will never soak up the rays in the same way again; on September 11 she sustainedthird-degree burns on much of her body. She had gone to hell and then, slowly, painfully,come back. Denial is an ordinary and understandable response to calculated mass murder.Americans, like most people, don't want to see what they don't wish to know. Warning about"grand terrorism"terror with weapons of mass destructionand calling for "homelanddefense" has been an academic subspecialty for years. Foundation and government reportswarned that it was only a matter of time before the terrorists struck America in a way thatcould claim thousands of lives. Yet at the White House, homeland defense was not the firstjob Vice President Dick Cheney got when the new administration took office last January.Cheney spent several months running a task force to solve an energy crisis that, it turns out,was probably exaggerated. His staff was just formally turning to the subject of homelanddefense on September 11, when the terrorists hit. To be sure, few could have guessed at thebrazenness and resourcefulness of Atta or Al Qaeda, the terrorist network that backed himand the 18 other suicide attackers. The September 11 plots had been methodically thoughtout and meticulously planned over at least two years. And yet a reconstruction of Atta'smovements in the months leading up to the attacks shows that the terror ringleader, for allhis careful planning, made numerous small blunders. His trip-ups could have been t ipoffsifonly Americans had been watching. The fog of war, a term now much in vogue, was thickaround the first battle in the new terror war. As FDNY First Deputy Commissioner Bill Feehanmustered his troops to combat the blazes at the Twin Towers, there appears, in perfecthindsight, to have been an almost willful blindness toward the risk that the towers mightcollapse. Likewise, in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC), the bunkerburied far below the White House where Vice President Cheney commanded the initial U.S.response, misinformation overwhelmed the facts. At one point, NEWSWEEK has learned,Cheney gave an order to shoot down a hijacked civilian airliner that didn't exista phantomcreated by panic and garbled communications. That is not to say that Feehan and Cheneywere anything but cool and steady in crisis. Indeed, they showed true sangfroid at somevery frightening moments. We celebrate many such tales of courage on September 11perhaps the most moving of which is the passenger revolt on the hijacked United Flight 93that may have saved the U.S. Capitol or the White House from destruction (NEWSWEEK,

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Go To OriginalProbe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror PlotsBy Ken GuggenheimAssociated Press WriterWednesday, 18 September, 2002WASHINGTON (AP) - American intelligence agencies received far more reports ofterrorist plotting to use planes as weapons before Sept. 1 1 than the U.S. governmenthas previously acknowledged, congressional investigators said Wednesday.

While it was unclear whether any of the reports were in fact signs of the impendingattacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, investigators said the agenciesnever looked closely at the potential threat of hijacked airliners flying into buildings.Those assertions came in a 30-page statement by Eleanor Hill, staff director for theHouse and Senate intelligence inquiry into the Sept. 1 1 attacks.Hill's statement was being presented to committee members Wednesday at theinquiry's first public hearings. Lawmakers have been meeting behind closed doorssince June, looking into intelligence failures leading up to the attacks and how theycan be corrected."These public hearings are part of our search for the truth -- not to point fingers orpin blame, but with the goal of identifying and correcting whatever systemic problemsmight have prevented our government from detecting and disrupting al Qaida's plot,"said Sen. Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.Hill outlined 12 examples of intelligence information on the possible terrorist use ofairplanes as weapons, dating back to 1994. The last example occurred a month beforethe attacks, when intelligence agencies were told of a possible bin Laden plot to bombthe U.S. embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, or crash a plane into it. But it contained nospecifics pointing to the impending Sept. 1 1 attacks.

\fttm In August 1998, U.S. intelligence learned that a "group of unidentified Arabsplanned to fly an explosive-laden plane from a foreign country into the World TradeCenter," says the report. The report was given to the Federal Aviation Administrationand FBI, which took little action on it. The group may now be linked to bin Laden, thereport says.Other intelligence suggested that bin Laden supporters might crash a plane into aU.S. airport, or conduct a plot involving aircraft at New York and Washington, thereport said.While generally aware of the possibility of this method of attack, "the IntelligenceCommunity did not produce any specific assessments of the likelihood that terroristswould use airplanes as weapons," the report said.

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SECTION: Section 1; Page 1; Column 5; National DeskLENGTH: 2933 wordsHEADLINE: AFTER THE ATTACKS: THE EVENTS;In Four Days, a National Crisis Changes Bush's PresidencyBYLINE: By DAV ID E. SANGER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.DATELINE: WASHINGTON, Sept. 15BODY:President Bush was sitting in a second-grade classroom in Sarasota, Fla., on Tuesday m orning, his eyesand his smile fixed on 7-year-olds showing of f their reading skills. But his mind was clearly fixed on thenews he had heard just m oments before: a passenger jet had crashed into one of the W orld Trade Centertowers.At 9:05 a.m., the White House chief of staff, Andrew H . Card Jr., stepped into the classroom andwhispered into the president's right ear, "A second plane hit the other tower, and America's under

> , attack."The president blanched. But he stayed put, occasionally arching his eyebrows at the children. "Reallygood readers, whew," he said. "This m ust be sixth grade."Minutes later, 900 miles to the north, a squad of Secret Service agents burst into the West Wing office ofVice President Dick C heney, grabbing his arms, his shou lders and his belt. "They literally propelled himout of his office," one witness said. The agents all but carried Mr. Cheney down to the White House'sdeepest sanctum, the Presidential E me rgency Operations Center, a tubelike structure designed towithstand a nuclear blast. Another hijacked plane was bearing down on Washington, the agents said, andthe White House w as almost certainly its target.In the course of the next four days, George W . Bush was transformed into a president at the helm of aWhite House, and a nation, in crisis.On Monday night, he was laughing over dinner with his brother Jeb at a seaside Florida resort, posingfor pictures with the restaurant staff an d dodging questions from reporters about looming battles over thevanishing budget surplus. By this m orning, with downtown W ashington locked down by the military, hewas conducting a war council at Camp David and demanding that countries around the world, startingwith the Arab world, declare whether they were allies in the w ar on terrorism.As he rode Marine One from Andrews Air Force Base to the White House on Tuesday evening, Mr.Bush watched the smoke billowing from the jagged gash in the Pentagon and seemed to recognize ho wprofoundly his young presidency had been transformed ."The mightiest building in the world is on the floor," he told an aide riding with him. "That's the 21st-century war you just witnessed."

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g In Focus: The Road Map to PeaceDR. RICE: Well, thank you very much for that warm welcome. It's so great to be here at the"Los Angeles. I want to thank Liam McGee for that terrific introduction and for his work as viaTown Hall Los Angeles. Adrienne Medawar, the president of Town Hall LosAngeles, thankyhard work. And to all of the board members and staff members who make this great organizefunction, thank you very much.I see a lot of familiar faces here - friends from theacademy, a family member, a number offriends from California. It's just great to be home - thank youvery much forwelcoming mehi(Applause.)My time asStanford - asprofessor andprovost - provided some of the fondest memories oAnd, like Stanford, Town Hall Los Angeles thrives on debate and discussion about the greatday. I want to spend a few minutes speaking with you today about an issue that is clearly vitj- promoting peace andprogress and change in the Middle East.The events of the last few months make clear that the Middle East is living through a time ofchange. And despite the tragic events of the past few days, it is also a time of great hope. Prbelieves that the region is at a true turning point. He believes that the people of the Middle E;real chance to build a future of peace and freedom and opportunity.In Iraq, a murderous tyrant and a supporter of terror has been defeated, and a free society is(Applause.) Coalition troops in Iraq still face great dangers each and every day. Iraq's transitdictatorship to democracy is proving every bit as challenging as we had imagined. Three dectyranny left Iraq worse off than we had imagined.Saddam's palaces were in very good repair. And years of intelligence and U.N. reports tell u sweapons of mass destruction programs were robust and well-funded. But Iraq's water and sand power grids and hospitals and schools all suffer from decades of malign neglect. The psimpact of decades of murderous totalitarianism on generations of Iraqis is even worse. Truthwith thousands of Iraqis in mass graves that are still being discovered. Trust was imprisonedjailed on the capricious whims of a brutal regime.We are working with the Iraqi people to stabilize their country, to improve security and to malservices better than they were before the war. But much hard work remains. America and oupartners and determined to do the work that we came to do, and then we will leave.President Bush has stated many times that the battle of Iraq was about moving a great dangabout building a better future for all of the people of the region. Iraq's people, for sure, will be

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'Power and Values': A conversation with Condoleezza Rice.(Interview)National Review, August 12, 2002, by Jay No rdlingerToward the end of the day on July 16, Jay Nordlinger sat down with Condoleezza Rice, the president's nationalsecurity adviser, in her West W ing office. They had last talked for NR in the summ er of 1999, resulting in thepiece "Star-in- Waiting : Meet George W.'s Foreign- Policy Czarina" (August 30, 1999). By now, obviously, CondiRice needs no introduction. The recent conv ersation was, in part, a follow -up to the earlier discussion. Be low areexcerpts.JN : Such a simple-minded question, but one asks it. Wha t have you learned? Wha t's been surprising?CR : There's no major surprise. I certainly knew w hat to expect in the job.JN: You'd been on staff [in the administration of the first Bush].CR : I'd been on the staff. I'd watched Brent Scowcroft do this job. So in terms of the daily o perations . . . it alllooks familiar to me.None of us thought we would be dealing with the war on terrorism as a kind of central organ izing principle . . .But the one thing that has been affirmed for me in the strongest possible terms is the tremendous legitimacy ofdemocracy vis-a-vis any other system of governance. It is very, very powerful to watch this great democracyrespond to 9/1 1 and to see its inherent strengths. Because when yo u look at democracy from the outside, I'm sureit must look chaotic and cacophonous, and there are all these different voices, and we fuss and we fight. And Ikeep thinking to my self, "The terrorists m ust have looked at us and thought: easy prey." But when ou r valueswere attacked, [the coun try] came together. And I contrast that with, I think, the difficulty of governments that dono t have that link to their people . . .JN : Do you still consider yourself a Realpo litiker, or has that been tempered som ewha t?CR: We had this talk, as you know [back in 1999] the balance of power, realism versus ideals, power andvalues. And I said then, and I still believe, that they're inseparable. C learly, the balance of power m attered whenwe defeated the Soviet Union . . . But you should never forget how powerful [our] ideals are. And every time, wetend to underestimate them. W hen we w ere getting ready to go in to Afghanistan, the num ber of people who said,"Well, you know , a Muslim society, no history of democracy, no history of freedom, they won't care about thosethings" . . . And then the first thing that happens when Kabul is liberated is people go into the streets for simplefreedoms, like the ability to play m usic or to send their girls to schoo l. And yo u jus t forget how very powerfulhuman dignity is as a principle of human behavior and how mu ch it's supported by democracy. . . .JN: We used to hear about "Asian values" the idea that demo cracy jus t wasn't right for those people. And theexperience of Taiwan sort of put the lie to that. A lot of people now say that the Arab world an d democracy aresimply incompatible. "Arab values" - is that like saying "Asian values"?CR : We don't think there's anything incompatible about Islam and democratic va lues. And the President has saidin a number of speeches, these values are universal they're not our values, they're no t W estern, they're universal.

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