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DFW BOARD MEETING AGENDA WED – Oct 10th 07:30-16:30 | THURS – Oct 11th 07:30-12:30

WELCOME In Attendance: Marie Welch, Tresa Grange, Joel Fox, Valerie Cook, Erika Robertson, Steve Bartels, Stacy Holloway – Larena Beal via conference call.

NEW BUSINESS

Rules of the Road

Please have phones on silent, stay focused on SIA business. Remember to look at what I

send you, the pairing that is built for you doesn’t always show the correct hotel. If

something happens, try to call Marie. Should be able to call Travelliance – working on that

and Marie will let Reps know.

Welcome Erika Robertson!

Erika had a brief intro this morning. Erika told the board about herself. She lives in MSP –

loves the base, has 3 young kids at home. She works stand-ups. She is a crafter and her

husband is a clinical scientist at the Veteran’s Hospital.

Rep Updates

Steve – Quite a hit on hotel tours – SAPA doesn’t always want to do them, Tresa did Casper

(well done summary), and Marie told the Reps to put your choices in order regardless of

price. Monday and Tuesday Akron, Ohio – interesting. That area has a bunch of remote

isolated locations. Hotels are nice but nothing around. The one that was chosen wasn’t that

good and we have had a lot of complaints. Re-sourced the area and there are some pretty

good ones. Look for a good improvement on that one. SAPA did Joplin, MO. Two more next

week Valdosta, and Albany Georgia.

Steve said on base visits ask Admin if they have hotels that they recommend to crews, not

getting recommendations from crews. Marie said they are going to ask Wayne for data

analysis on web site, what Flight Attendants are looking at. Looking forward to ORD base

visit – ORD doesn’t have escort. We think we can still get down there with our code.

Marie asked about open enrollment for Benefits, is there anything we need to know – Steve

didn’t know anything. Steve said keep in mind other companies are keeping premiums

stable but increasing deductible. SkyWest is keeping our deductible stable.

Erika – She is very excited to be a SIA Board member and excited for the new position.

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Valerie – Working on lanyard card – asked Tresa about going through the Company – Tresa

stated to work with Trevor Harrison, Tresa will forward email. Need to add FADAP to

lanyard.

Couldn’t find Pilot Trading with Company as far as policy. Valerie works with Stacy on

Reserve issues that have come in.

Marie added that Valerie has been very helpful in assisting more with base visits while

DeeAnn is gone.

Joel-Pin order, Marie said they need to talk because she has been unable to pay for that

order due to the link. The Board looked at the final mock-up of the SIA pin.

Joel has been working with Marie on Fatigue Policy. Joel found some things in Envoy’s

contract related to that.

Tresa- CIRP is getting quite a few calls. We finally got “notification access” to Mackenzie

(Pilot side) so that Tresa has some relief. ISC is referring quite a few as well. Marie said they

talk about it during INH as well.

Professional Standards has training next week in MSP, we are short volunteers on the Pilot

side and FA side. We have lost good people to Management positions. 14 FA’s and 7 Pilots

will be training next week. Professional Standards has picked up in regards to how many

calls they receive.

In IFE next year they will focus on support and professionalism. Marie and Tresa went to the

Supervisor Training and talked about Professional Standards and CIRP.

Marie – Went to Infoshare Safety Conference, getting bigger each time. Around 900

attendees for this conference that was held in New Orleans. All major carriers,

international, regionals. Conference where we share in a confidential environment.

Security people stand outside and you can’t come in without badge. FAA sponsored, so FAA,

Company and Employee Reps from Safety Programs attend. Share and divulge, talk about

root causes to make a safer environment (non-punitive). Break up into groups,

maintenance, cabin, flight ops, dispatch and customer service. SkyWest has very strong and

long running programs in relation to some of the other carriers. We’ve had ASAP longer than

many carriers so we are always strong with our Presentations and attendance. Marie was

part of a Panel Presentation with American and Southwest Airlines - discussion about

Electronic Manuals and our processes. Marie has shared information and ideas from the

Conference with the Company. All carriers have doors, disarming and slide deployment as

one of their Top 5 ASAP events. We have to keep in mind that ASAP filing is not just for

missed FAR’s, but missed procedures as well. Working on Fatigue Program with Joel. The

Rest Bill (FAA Reauthorization Act) has passed. There was discussion about 90 days to start

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the implementation and 2 years to finish the implementation. . Today, our Fatigue calls are

approved with Sonya. The occurrence is excused and does not affect their reliability but

they do not receive the pay. We will look at Bill and discuss more with the Company. .

Stacy – Presented Flight Attendant log statistics (what are some of the most reported issues,

etc.) Hopefully, will have a new way to automatically transfer the statistics to an excel sheet

so we can achieve better data to help us in identifying areas that need improvement

Larena – Kristina went to the RSR meeting with Audrey, did great with good feedback from

Planners. First liaison session went well. She has a good grasp on what she needs to do. So

far, SAPA is only sending one person. They are constantly trying to train someone. With

attrition it is hard. Discussed possibility of Erika going in November.

Block hours went down in November, big push in December. One less day in the month as

well as a bit less flying over the holiday. Partners have bumped up flights after holiday and

created some funky stuff. Random red-eye’s that won’t be seen again other than holidays.

Some didn’t meet the fatigue model – so no flying before or after. Pairings are built with

10:45 rest between. As far as building pairings, the new Rest Bill won’t have a big impact on

how pairings are built since we are already building them with over 10:00 hours of rest . In

rare occasions the FA’s are DH’ing into a base to cover flying – that is a different situation.

They are struggling to keep LGA people. Red-eyes show up as 2-days or 3-days. Discussed

LGA issues – crash pads, affordability.

PBS quarterly meeting, very laid back. Current agenda almost completely cleared.

Recognized that PBS Help Line has problems, overloaded with calls. Things getting

backlogged and not serving crews as expected. Working to make some changes. They want

online submissions, or online chat or something (in infancy). This will allow for PBS person

to be in any base, and not have to work in Utah. The GUI upgrade for PBS, some confusion

as to where it is at. Everybody wants it. Trying to push for that.

Rep Overview: Marie is thankful that this Board is proactive in completing their tasks, and

she is confident in all of them - she doesn’t have to worry that tasks will not be completed

and knows that they are all passionate about their Committees and being involved.

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Future Base Visits

Next month Board Meeting is PDX.

Discussion on why FA’s don’t come to the Board Meetings, previous call-ins for Board

Meeting. Possibility of Facebook live. Might shoot for something “live” or “call in” option at

December meeting or possibly January.

Reminder of checking the correct Hotel, etc. for SIA Business

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Website Discussion – Rep submissions/pics – RSR Reports

Had an issue with RSR reports showing up in a search. The website needs improvements in

that area which we had Wayne (webmaster) work on. . SAPA has asked us to remove the

RSR reports from our website or work on securing the website. SAPA has asked if FA’s realize

the RSR Reports are not that valuable to them. I have told Russ that yes SIA has realized that

and chose not to post them or send them to the FA’s months ago. Marie let Russ (SAPA

President) know that we had requests for them again and we chose to go back to sending to

the bases and posting on our website. She also told him that we let the FA’s know these are

not that accurate for them. We are continuing to work on additional security for the

website. Webmaster said there is a way to do this with logging in to information

(particularly PDF’s) with an additional password. Board agreed they do not want to have an

additional password for PDF’s.

Larena has a new form for Reps to request website changes.

Please attach names to photos. Larena will help Reps if they need it.

‘Regional Contract’ page is not up to date. As Reps are researching these contracts, they can

send current information to Larena to update.

Larena has created new section on ‘Vote Results’. Also send good news articles for the

‘Recent Industry News’ articles. We need to research SIA history to make sure 23 years is

correct on SIA website.

Update on Rev. 8

Waiting on Sonya to approve. When policies are ready, they are loaded by Marie into

“Workflow” – Workflow process needs to have many eyes on it, the process goes back and

forth. Then when approved, we send it to Sonya for final approval. Holding Pay was added

as well. Moving forward to the new “SkyBook” process which will be an improvement as

there will no longer be TR’s. The Revision will be loaded into the actual documents/policy

manual moving forward. Sonya and Marie have a call with Tech Pubs to go over the new

process for SkyBook. We need to ask how you will know when there are revisions. We will

need to create new ‘Policy Templates’ for creating policy after Revision 8 is out.

FAA Reauthorization Bill - Rest Discussion

Schedules are built with Pilot’s rest rules anyway. Today FA’s aren’t restricted as much for

stand-ups, will affect stacking. Long locals back to back might be affected. 8 hrs. in between

on SkedPlus+ pick-ups will not be possible. 1-2 days more work for the same hours is

possible even though pairings the same.

Easier on Crew Support not having 2 sets of rules – 10 hrs. in between for reserves and FA’s

not separating from Pilots are benefits.

Update on progress of Fatigue Program -Marie and Joel have been working on a fatigue

program and are planning on sitting in on the Pilot’s Weekly Fatigue Call this Friday.

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Newest Policy Enhancement update and clarification

o Additional Maternity Leave

Lots of questions, we need to all understand. Additional and separate

leave. Part of the agreement was looked at by Legal. The leave is for

those that need more time to physically recover after giving birth and

those that wish to breastfeed. Others can still apply for other leave.

o Holding Pay

It was hard for those involved in creating this to wrap their heads around

it. Express Jet doesn’t have an automated process, we never wanted a

manual process. The Board discussed how holding pay works so we can

be able to answer questions, e.g. 30 minutes after scheduled

departure(.25 per minute).

Call out and Call in for LAX and SFO – Submitted to Company and update

We have submitted policy to Sonya and she is taking it to Management. We need to do a

pro and con for this policy. We need to go through the pros and cons. It will affect quite a

few policies. Putting a lot more back on the FA’s that maybe wasn’t thought about.

Pros

The Reserves get a 3 hour call out – more time in challenging traffic cities.

Better quality of life for Reserves

Less discipline?

Cons

More Ready Reserve

More reflows for line holders

3 hour call in (sick, emergency, etc.)

Earlier R1 2:30 AM

Posted pairings limitation would change from 3 hours to 4 hours

More discipline?

Steve asked about seniority of FA’s from survey – 65% 0-5 years of service.

InfoShare Update

Done in Marie’s Rep Update

SEC update

No meeting coming up, nothing new right now.

Travel Call update

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Nothing new on that, some of the same questions we had heard in the past from new

people. Question about parents aren’t buddies on Delta, is there a way to identify it as a

parent not a buddy S3C on domestic, S4 international. Marie will take these questions back

to the Committee on the next call.

Union Contracts – discussion on Reps findings

Valerie looked at Horizon’s contract. CBT’s guaranteed 1 hour credit, after that 2:1.

Reserves get time and a half after 85 hours. Maximum hours 91. They have double

occupancy day rooms for sits over 5 hours. $2 hr. per diem. Crew meals with parameters. 6

golden days a year (must be used in groups of 2 or 3). Reserves can drop days off if staffing

allows. Recurrent, 4+ hrs. = minimum of 4.5. Cancellation – Reserves when checked in, back

on reserve, new assignments and on top 2 hrs. credit. Reserves can only work 5 days in a

row.

Joel looked at Envoy’s contract. Big take away – proffering is in PBS preference of locations.

Extensions can only be out and back and no more than 3 times a month with some

exceptions. Reserve can’t be held if past scheduled flights. They do have a commuter policy,

provide verification – goes into a different bucket for reserve. 3 move days for all transfers

not dependent on mileage.

Tresa worked on Compass.

Stacy looked at Express Jet’s contract. $35 commuting expense in lieu of parking,

commuter policy basically excused absence without pay as long as it doesn’t occur

repeatedly. Incentive for high hours flown is quarterly not monthly. Return from leave

schedules are built from open time pairings first, then reserve. Restoration day off if FA’s

flying goes into day off.

Steve looked at Air Wisconsin’s contract. Reporting guarantee 1 hr. pay if fails to depart. If

a delay occurs after boarding that would have FA work past max duty, they are expected to

operate flight as scheduled. Reserve assignments based on balancing.

Reps have been tasked with writing one policy proposal based on their contract research.

Discuss Stand-ups with first leg delayed to 2nd day. FA’s feel they should not have to come

back to work the pairing.

The Board discussed rolling delays, stand-up’s where the first leg is delayed into the next

day. We agree that delays are a part of the business and we don’t feel that stand-ups are

any different.

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SkedPlus+ Red Pairing – Do we want to look into the possibility of rewording pop-up. Flight

attendants get upset and/or feel it is rude when they assign it to reserve (as per policy) and

it might be easier to “swallow” if the pop-up prepares them.

The Board agrees to ask the Company to change the wording on the pop-up.

Possible Policies to work on –

o Duty day ending at 02:01…This came from SIA and SAPA (extending into

day off).

o Rolling Delay with SAPA

o SkedPlus+ User Guide with SAPA

UPCOMING DATES & DEADLINES

DATE EVENT LOCATION Oct. 9th Base Visit DFW

Oct. 10th – 11th Board Meeting DFW

Oct. 15th – 18th Pro Standards Training MSP

Oct. 18th ASAP Meeting SLC

Oct. 29-30-31 Scheduling Meeting SGU

Oct. 30th Base Visit ORD

Nov. 13th – 14th Board Meeting PDX

Nov. 15th ASAP Meeting SLC

Nov. 15th Base Visit PDX

Nov. 27-28-29-30 Scheduling Meeting SGU

Nov. 28th ASAP Recurrent SGU

Nov. 29th Base Visit DEN

Dec. 12th – 13th Board Meeting SBP

ONGOING ITEMS

IFL Meeting and now SIA – IFL Action Meetings Policy Brush up from the log (Stacy)

Went over resignations

Grievance updates (Larena) Clarification on Grievance vs. CAR

Action Items (Stacy) Grievance Update (Larena)

SIA Priorities Fatigue Program Rolling Delays Getting Scheduling Rep(Erika) trained

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SIA Flash items –LIST BEFORE END OF MEETING Revision 8 FAA Reauthorization Bill signed into law Welcome Scheduling Rep Working on Fatigue program and other areas associated with the bill Contract comparisons Upcoming new destinations in Georgia -VLD Valdosta and ABY Albany Possible improvements to PBS Help Line – check with Kelvin Hub visit Chicago

POLICIES NEEDING BOARD APPROVAL

SP Title Status

Company Policy SP 153.3

Drug Testing 10/11 Unanimously voted to pursue

MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB in favor

NEW

Added box – Crewmembers who are required to complete a

random test before or after a trip or over an overnight trip are

compensated $30 if concluded within 1 hour from release from

duty. Drug testing not completed 1 hour from release from

duty will be compensated 1 hour for every 2 hours thereafter.

FAA Maximum Duty Time will be followed.

SP 2305 SIP definition 10/11 Company has sent back response – They do not agree to Policy presented. Need more discussion as to why not approved.

10/1 Company sent back response V2 8/19 Presented to IFL again

V2 8/8 Board agreed to send to IFL again since all FA’s are trained on ERJ

V2-IFL rejected (per Steve-o…may revisit when all FA’s trained. We mentioned

it will still be an issue with CRJ only bases)

V1-SIA Approved 12/19/17

SP 2313 Leaves of Absences, OJI,

Additional Leave for extending Maternity

8/31 Board Approved unanimously via email prior to Board

Meeting – Policy effective Oct 1, 2018.

Waiting on SAPA approval and the Company

SP 2317 Scheduling Scheduling SIP 10/11 Company has sent back response – They do not agree to Policy presented. Need more discussion as to why not approved.

10/1 Company sent back response

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V2 8/19 Presented to IFL again

V2 8/8 Board agreed to send to IFL again since all FA’s are trained on ERJ

V2-1/5/18 Steve-o did not have an issue with this but we want to look at 2305

with it again and re-propose.

SP 2317 Scheduling Flight Delay – Danny Lewis NEW – combine with other rolling delays, etc.

10/11 Board agreed to look at all “delay” policies they are

working on and decide how to move forward.

SP 2317 Scheduling Addition of “upgrade” V2 10/11 Board unanimously approved IFL counter – will

resubmit to IFL

MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB voted yes.

10/01 IFL sent back counter - delete the need for FA’s to both

call Crew Support.

V1 9/11 Submitted to IFL

SP 2318 Ready Reserve 10/11 NEW-policy to allow the release of a ready reserve if

there are no flights that they are legal to fly and allow them to

be returned to base before the end of the day.

Board worked on verbiage and the EC will complete and bring

back to next meeting for a vote.

SP 2318 Reserve Early pick up after early release – allowing the reserve FA the ability to pick up after an early release.

10/01 Company not approved – Need more discussion as to why not approved.

V1 Submitted to IFL

V1 07/11 Board unanimously approved

SPUG pg. 37 & SPUG pg. 45

Pg. 37-Red vs. Blue Pg. 45-Incentive Clarification

Will send back to the Company

V5 10/11 Board Approved 6 to 1

LB no MW, TG, JF, VC, SB, SH yes

10/01 Company sent back counter

Wanting to add “exchanges” and a bit more verbiage about

“exchange” for an incentivized Company open time pairing -

will not be eligible for the automated incentive.

V4 – Submitted to IFL

V4 – 9/10/18 – Presented to Board with changes that include “exchanges”.

Board approved.

6/19 Steve-o will send verbiage that he would like added that includes

“exchanges” He will send it to us with his addition.

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6/18 Sonya stated that Steve-o still has an issue and wants to discuss before

presenting to VP’s.

5/15/18

IFL is good with the policy - Ask Sonya to present to VP’s.

V3 -5/15/18 SIA approved of changes to page 39 only and page 48 has been

removed from the proposal as they feel page 48 does not need changes).

V2- 4/16/18 Present to Board

V1 – 4/12/18 IFL rejected V1 and submits V2 to SIA. Steve-o would like the

addition removed.

V1 - 3/06/18 SIA needs to clarify on the colors indicated in the comment

sections below.

V1 – 12/20/17 IFL Approved

V1-10/13/17 SIA Approved

CURRENT FA POLICY PROPOSALS

Name/Emp. # SP/Comments/Date

Proposal Received

Status

Follow-Up From Last Board Meeting

Tina Williams 038926 - MSP

SP2317 Scheduling

What is the new policy you propose?

Specific verbiage/policy regarding

flight delays/diversions (e.g.

scheduled departure of 0800 from

MSP-SLC after a standup, crew diverts

to SGU and times out due to

maintenance/weather/etc and

required to report 10 hours later to

work SGU-SLC) when it comes to the

reassignment being within the

original trip footprint. For example,

currently if the theoretical flight

above from SGU-SLC is "cancelled",

the FA does not have to work that

newly created flight 10 hours later,

but if it is "delayed" they do, however

SGU-SLC was never their original

assignment, so it is difficult to find

policy to support this flight. Basically

SGU-SLC is outside the original

10/11 Policy Drafting In progress

9/12 Stacy will work on the policy.

8/31/18 Joel left a VM and let her know that

board voted to pursue and is working on it.

SH talked to Tina. She wants there to be

something in policy for rolling delays

including delays into your day off.

07/11/18 – Stacy will contact for more

clarification

A diversion – all bets off

Footprint doesn’t count in diversions.

Continuation of your pairing. Outside of the

company’s control.

We have tried to clarify rolling delay in policy

before and the company rejected. SIA has

struggled with rolling delays and it is

something we are discussing with

management.

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footprint, however since no flight was

cancelled 2317.24 F does not apply

But SGU-SLC was never their

assignment to begin with.

Kristin Collins 050106 - SFO

What Standard Practice are you

proposing a change to? SP2317

Scheduling

What is the new policy you propose? I

propose that flight attendants should be

able to pick up a crew member posted

pairing IF they cannot get back into their

original pairing at a hub/scheduled

interruption support and crew support

does not have any open time to assign

them, or they cannot be placed on

reserve for the day.

I recently had this situation happen to

me. It was memorial day weekend and

due to my ILOA, I needed to call off the

first few legs of my 4 day ERJ pairing. I

attempted to get back into my pairing in

ORD at leg 3 once I felt better, but

because of the holiday weekend it was

impossible to commute. My pairing only

flowed through ORD so it was my only

option as it was an ERJ pairing. I called CS

and asked to be placed on reserve in PHX

(where I live) and they said the operation

did not need me. I then asked if they had

anything I could pick up, they said no

because it was against policy. I even

offered to be on ready reserve. They did

not need me. They placed me on willing

to fly (I did not get called) as I could not

pick up any crew member posted pairing

for the day which I found very frustrating

because I was willing and able to work

and physically could not. This makes me

very limited as a commuter to only be

able to pick up my assigned pairing. This

resulted in me picking the pairing up

Kristen wants to formally

propose a change to this

policy, even if a modified

version.

10/11 On IFL Agenda

8/9 The EC is going to talk to Steve-o about

the policy and hash it out.

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finally in ORD the following day (the day

before memorial day) and I had to miss

one leg from SYR-ORD. Therefore, I did

not receive my holiday pay because I

missed one leg the day before. I think

adding this policy would give lineholders

and especially commuters like myself

much more flexibility in our schedules.

Christine Eyler 037664 – ORD


proposing a change to?

SP2318 Reserve


propose that if a FA works into a day off

for ANY reason, scheduled or not, he/she

receives compensation of at least MDG.

The day off begins at midnight of that day

not 0201. The flight attendant is also

given the choice to work into the day off

with impunity.

10/11 Policy Drafting In Progress

9/12 The Board found it is standard airline policy. Any

portion of pairing rolls into the next day (after 0201)

should be paid time and a half or MDG – scheduled or

not. Marie is going to be writing the policy

07/11/18 – Board needs to investigate policy and decide

where the clarification needs to be. EC will ask on IFL

call where the 2:01am stipulation came from… 2317-7-B

6/14 voted to get more clarification on policy.

Joel Fox 032179 – DEN

Excused personal emergencies.

I propose to align our policies regarding

excused personal emergencies to include

Father’s Day.

Current policy only disciplines FA call outs

on Mother’s Day. This policy should be

updated to be fair and consistent and

include Father’s Day call offs.

10/11 Board looked at statistics for Mother’s Day and Father’s Day call offs. 8/9 We are going to get call off numbers for all holidays

and high call offs.

Ailey Baker 018288 - SFO



Scheduling


10/11 Policy Drafting In Progress Rolling Delay/reflow policy Compensation for return to airport 9/12 Unanimously voted to pursue.

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recently experienced an unfortunate

scheduling situation at work where I felt

the Company may have been able to

treat the Crew (particularly the flight

attendants) in a more optimal manner.

While I understand the business concern

from a flight performance and

completion perspective, I feel there

needs to be a clear and concise policy in

place to protect and compensate crew

members when this particular, or

perhaps a similar irregular issue arises.

Last Friday 8/17/18, I was scheduled for a

stand-up and with at least 2 hours prior

to show time and possibly more, the first

officer called off. At show time we still

did not have a replacement First Officer

showing on our trip. After checking in

and calling Crew Support, we were

informed that we were waiting to see if

they could find someone to come in to

work this stand-up. Several hours later,

we called again and Crew Support still did

not have a replacement First Officer and

we were told they were unsure of what

they were doing with our schedule and

we should continue to wait. About 45

minutes later, we noticed there were

changes being made to our schedules

and were all prompted to acknowledge

the changes online. The change showed

me being released at 2150 which had

already come and gone. Once I

acknowledged the change and was able

to view my schedule, I noticed another

block on my schedule for the next

morning that was not included in the

summary of the required

acknowledgement. I then contacted Crew

Support to question the release time and

requested it be updated to reflect my

actual release time. I then inquired about

the second block on my schedule for the

next day and why it was not included in

the acknowledgement summary. The

scheduler told me I was required to

report the next morning at 0805 (less

than one hour from my originally

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scheduled release time) to fly the

roundtrip. I was told that I was required

to do the flying because it was my

original flights. I questioned the fact that

this flying would take me outside my

original schedule footprint and the

scheduler stated it was considered a

delay, not a reflow so it could go outside

my original footprint. My concern with

this is that there does not appear to be

any current policy in place to address this

irregular circumstance. This was not a

delay due to weather or maintenance but

because of a company staffing issue.

Specifically a pilot staffing issue.

Additionally, there was still no first officer

to do the flying the next morning so if I

made the 120 mile round trip back to the

airport in the morning, there was no

guarantee the flight wouldn’t have been

even further delayed or even ultimately

cancelled.

I feel this was an incredibly unreasonable

treatment of the crew and a manipulative

interpretation of a policy that does not

even exist because this situation was not

due to weather or maintenance but to a

pilot staffing issue. It feels as though

because there is no policy in place

regarding these lengthy delays the

verbiage is used instead of reflow as a

way to work around current policies

regarding reflows. It is also unrealistic for

the Company to expect a flight attendant

who had just slept much of the day in

preparation for a standup to then

immediately go back to bed in order to

fly during normal hours and on the flight

attendant’s scheduled time off the next

day. In my nearly 15 years’ experience at

SkyWest, nothing like this has happened

to me before, and I was essentially forced

to take an occurrence and lose user time

because of a pilot staffing issue

completely unrelated to me and

completely out of my control.

I have noticed lately that many delays

have gotten lengthier and lengthier and

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there appears to be no policy in place to

protect the flight attendants from this

sort of perceived mistreatment. It would

be my desire for SIA to work with

management to come up with a solution

to this type of situation when it arises in

the future. Furthermore, there is nothing

in current policy to speak to the

difference between a delay and a reflow,

or even a time limit that either can be

extended to. I feel this should be clarified

so all flight attendants will know what to

expect in this or any sort of irregular

schedule footprint change scenario. I

have also spoken with other flight

attendants who have experienced similar

situations (related to staffing shortages)

on stand-ups however, they were

released to go home and not required to

return the next day to complete flying

outside of their original report and

release time. This leads to further

inconsistency and frustration.

To summarize, I propose the creation and

implementation of a policy that promotes

consistency and protects flight

attendants from unfair, inconsistent and

nonexistent policy practices. If the

Company is going to require their flight

attendants to work their original legs at a

different report and release time, there

needs to be a limit to how long a flight

can be delayed. There should be a clearly

written definition between a reflow and a

delay, and such a change should be

accurately reflected on a crew member's

schedule prior to them being required to

acknowledge such changes. A

compensation adjustment should also be

outlined to account for having to return

to the airport a second time to work the

original legs on a different calendar day.

One of the most frustrating things about

this situation is I love my job and I love

SkyWest but this made me feel like I

wasn’t a valued employee, and that my

health and safety were not a priority, or

even a consideration to the Company.

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If you would like any further information

regarding this event, I am happy to be

involved in a meeting and to be involved

in said policy proposals.

Thank you for your time and

consideration.

Jose Rivera 056976 - SEA

Reserve

Comments:

Hello,

I am Seattle based and I am contacting

you to express a concern I have come

across a lot of reserve flight attendants

and wanted to see what are some

options for resolutions. As most know,

reserve life is probably the most difficult

times in our company especially when

you are new. When it comes to the

quality of life for everyone I feel that

lineholders have way more benefits then

the reserve counterparts. One of the big

things I have a concern with as do many

reserves is lineholders ability to drop one

or two legs off a trip. I understand they

have the ability to do so but at the same

time reserves put more effort and money

into getting to the airport then to actually

work. Reserves were initially supposed to

be there for emergency, sick calls, and for

legality reasons such as timing out right? I

was just wondering if it would ever be

possible to talk about changing just the

aspect of calling out on small turns like

that. Maybe to where they would have to

drop a days trip minimum or call out for

such things as a single turn. I believe

reserves quality of life should matter just

as much if not more than a lineholders

because they have the hardest times in

the beginning of our careers. Any help or

information at all is greatly appreciated.

9/11 Not in favor to pursue 5 opposed 2 in

favor

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Thank you for all that you do day in and

day out for all of us hear at SkyWest.

Brian Hubrich 027026 - ORD



Reserve


SP 2318, Page 8, section 6, Paragraph B,

states the following:

"A flight attendant on an ‘out of base

reserve’ assignment will be utilized by

integrating the flight attendant into the

call-first seniority order of the RAP’ s

domicile ....... "

This wording eliminates the reserve flight

attendant's ability to choose whether or

not to be on first call in their bucket while

on OBR. Taking away this choice

significantly diminishes flight attendant's

quality of life. The more senior the flight

attendant, the more severe the

disservice. Senior flight attendants

coming back from leave often wish to

slowly integrate back into the workforce.

Some senior flight attendants wish to bid

intentionally for reserve but then have

their seniority ignored when on OBR

assignment.

When starting an OBR assignment, the

company reserves the exact number of

hotel nights the OBR flight attendant will

be out of domicile. The flight attendant

will require that same number of hotel

nights regardless of the city they are in,

regardless whether they are assigned a

trip or not. Updating the above policy to

honor flight attendant seniority rather

(than ignore it) will therefore not have a

significant effect on the company bottom

line. OBR assignments in less expensive

Seniority was used for the OBR assignment.

Some hotels can be cancelled, some cannot.

9/12 Board voted 6-1 to research with

Steve-o before voting.

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city domiciles such as BOI, FAT, COS, SLC,

TUS, etc., the company is very likely to

save money by giving FA's this choice.

I therefore encourage you to consider

changing the above wording as a mutual

benefit to all parties concerned.

Kelly Frieders 056465 - PHX


proposing a change to?

SP2318 Reserve


6.B.

A flight attendant on an 'out of base

reserve' assignment will be utilized by

integrating the FA into the seniority order

of the RAP's domicile. The OBR FA will be

able to choose his or her Call First

Preferences while on OBR.

Seniority was used for the OBR assignment.

Some hotels can be cancelled, some cannot.

9/12 Board voted 6-1 to research with Steve-o before voting.

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CURRENT PROPOSAL LOG

Name/Info SP/Comments/Date

Submitted

Status/Notes

NEW NOT PRESENTED TO BOARD

Judith Gibbs 043884 - ATL What Standard Practice are you proposing a change to? SP2306 Flight Attendant Reliability What is the new policy you propose? Let's eliminate more SAD's and NWSAD's by offering to sit reserve or ready reserve one time or a number of times on our days off depending the severity of the SAD. And, even eliminate some ERM's/ Dr. Notes. A CA asked me if.... knowing the FA was going to get to the gate late if he could call down to the crew room inflight office to ask for a ready reserve to help board the plane until the original FA arrived so door closure could be on time?. Good Idea..... Perfect attendance to eliminate SAD's is impossible if commuting is impossible. Why don't we have jumpseat privileges with Delta? Why not a workable commuting policy? It seems that if you waited through several fights to get on a commuting flight and nothing opened then we crew should not be penalized for giving it our best. Thanks for listening Judith 43884

10/1 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18 Eliminate SAD by sitting reserve. MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB opposed Used a ready to board the plane. Trickle-down effect is a problem 20 minute call out Already an option when FA notifies CS that they will be late but FA will Be pulled off the pairing. MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB opposed Jumpseat privileges with Delta – Can’t reciprocate. Workable Commuting Policy We do – two additional emergencies with no questions. Board voted to research commuter policy or adding additional EME or such. TG opposed, MW, LB, SH, JF, VC, SB in favor. Discussed adding verbiage of commuting for EME’s

Jenny Wilson 054557 - DTW

Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 - 11:33

AM

T SIA - SIAGRP

Subject: Rest policy

Good afternoon SIA,

I’m writing you all in regards to our rest policy

that is currently in place about rest starting as

soon as you land . As for most instances this for

the most part works out but recently , i had a

standard rest of 9 hours once i landed at 1157

pm into my show time which was 0900 the next

day , waited over thirty mins for a shuttle just to

10/4 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18 Working on based on bill and fatigue program.

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get to the hotel where no rooms were available

for 2 out of the 4 crew memebers . We didn’t

get into our rooms until 0130. I know I’m not the

first flight attendant this has happened to as I’ve

heard stories of even a longer wait on a hotel

cutting into their rest period . I had to call out

fatigued this morning as i did not feel fit to work

a 12 hour duty day 5 legs one of which was a

two hour deadhead because i didn’t get to sleep

once settled until 0200 and had to wake up at

0700 to get ready . I’m wondering if there is

some sort of way we can create a policy that

creates a different rest policy for certain

incidents like so. The policy now is just basically

stated your rest period starts as soon as you

land regardless of if there is a hotel for you to

actually rest and refresh yourself at . I made

several phone calls to ISC and crew support

last night and nothing could be done or

changed with our rest all they said was what the

policy is and that they hope they can get us all

rooms soon. That’s it . I don’t like to call off

work as i do take pride in my reliability and my

job in a whole . Also , missing work hours

equals less pay which kind of stinks .

Valerie Cook 056062 - SLC What Standard Practice are you proposing a change to? SP2318 Reserve What is the new policy you propose? I propose that reserve flight attendants should be able to trade reserve days with the company

10/5 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18 Beneficial to company, we need to get something else with this. MW, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB in favor LB abstain

Lola Johnson 037343 - ORD

What Standard Practice are you proposing

a change to? SP2320 Miscellaneous Flying

What is the new policy you propose? after

seeing more stats in CQ regarding

oji’s/turbulence- i think skywest should

have stricter policy regarding service

flights. 300 miles if not more for no

service/water service to keep our FAs safe

and mayb coupons/vouchers from the

10/5 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18

SIA has no control over this, FA has option to err on safety.

See Sonya’s email.

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airline partners (if they want) so pax can

get food in the airports.

Kristi Boling 052961 - SAN


a change to? SP2308 Compensation

What is the new policy you propose? The

policy I'm actually interested in is not

listed here, so I chose the closest one I

could think of. I'd like to discuss SP103,

Compensated Time Off, about

bereavement. The current policy says that

bereavement can only be used within two

weeks of a family member's death, so I

have to use a personal emergency to

attend my Granny's funeral because she is

being cremated and laid to rest in a

military cemetery, which takes a lot longer

than two weeks to process. I have spoken

with at least one other flight attendant

who had to miss her family member's

funeral because the cremation process

takes so long. I think the current policy is

unfair and prevents a large portion of us

from actually using bereavement since

cremation is so common. If the policy was

extended to one or two months instead of

a mere two weeks, so many more of us

could actually attend a family funeral

without being punished for missing work.

10/5 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18

Company Policy

Unanimously voted to pursue

MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC, SB approve.

Marie will take this to the SEC.

Melanie Miller 037463 - ORD What Standard Practice are you proposing a change to? SP2311 Vacation Time What is the new policy you propose? I accidentally forgot to add available vacation and user time when I dropped a pairing. I hoped to call in and have the time added to an upcoming paycheck, as ive done when calling in for trips. I was unaware that for our

9/14 Received

Letter Sent

10/11/18 You can call your crew pay person to have time added. If you are going to drop below hours, they are pretty lenient.

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vacation/user time to be added to a day off, at least 4:12 of either vacation or user time is needed, and the two cannot be combined. I understand there may be limitations as far as adding actual blocks to sked+, but if we have accrued the time, we should be able to access it if needed. I have nearly 7 hours of vacation/user time I can't add to my paycheck on the 22nd because I forgot to click a button.


What Standard Practice are you proposing a

change to? SP2308 Compensation

What is the new policy you propose? It is not

right that a reserve FA who breaks guarantee

can sit on reserve all day, then get called for a

standup at the end of their RAP, they get 5 or 6

hours of credit, but lose TWO reserve days, or

8 hours of credit. It also isn't right to sit reserve

most of the day, get called at the end of the

RAP for a short turn, and get paid the same

4:00 to work that they would have gotten if they

hadn't been called. Sitting reserve is not a day

off. If we break guarantee, we should be

compensated for ALL the time we sat reserve,

whether we were utilized or not. Therefore, I

propose the policy amenent below:

8. D. 2) b) (1)

When a flight attendant has worked in excess of

their guarantee (broken guarantee), the

recinciliation includes pay equal to their current

pay rate x 4.00, shift value according to

Determining Credit Hours above, or the value of

the shift as published in the pairing package,

whichever is greater. [NEW PROPOSAL:]

Additionally, the flight attendant will receive

prorated credit up to 4:00 credit hours for any

regular reserve availability period time the flight

attendant was on call. Each hour will be

prorated 20 minutes of flight pay.

Received Letter

Sent

10/11/18 TG Abstain,

Voted not to pursue MW, LB, SH, JF, VC, SB

Lisa Fitzpatrick 030280 - DEN


change to? SP2308 Compensation

What is the new policy you propose? I think part

time flight attendants should accrue vacation

based on the hours they work. Now that 15 year

flight attendants can waive to 25 hours (and not

have to give up any compensation/benefits) it

has affected the number of hours others have

Received Letter SENT

to FA

Group: SIAGRP -

MyMessage Received

Monday 09/10/18

03:41 PM MDT

To: 030280-Lisa

10/11/18

SB opposed

MW, LB, SH, TG, JF, VC in favor

Pro accrue , encourage them to work, seems fair

Con – company is not going to go for it, cost, might have to put it

In a pay package.

http://www.skywestonline.com/SKYW/MMessages/Message.aspx?MsgID=19921214





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been required to fly. In order to bid down I have

been forced to bid part time in some quarters. It

seems unfair that part time flight attendants

have to forgo vacation hours that may be

needed to cover trips in their schedules when

15 year flight attendants get less hours and all

the benefits.

Fitzpatrick

Cc: SIAGRP-SIA

Ailey Baker 018288 - SFO


change to? SP2317 Scheduling

To summarize, I propose the creation and

implementation of a policy that promotes

consistency and protects flight attendants from

unfair, inconsistent and nonexistent policy

practices. If the Company is going to require

their flight attendants to work their original legs

at a different report and release time, there

needs to be a limit to how long a flight can be

delayed. There should be a clearly written

definition between a reflow and a delay, and

such a change should be accurately reflected

on a crew member's schedule prior to them

being required to acknowledge such changes.

A compensation adjustment should also be

outlined to account for having to return to the

airport a second time to work the original legs

on a different calendar day.

One of the most frustrating things about this

situation is I love my job and I love SkyWest but

this made me feel like I wasn’t a valued

employee, and that my health and safety were

not a priority, or even a consideration to the

Company.

**RECEIVED LETTER

SENT TO FA

Group: SIAGRP -

MyMessage Received

Wednesday 09/05/18

09:00 AM MDT

To: 018288-Ailey

Baker

Cc: SIAGRP-SIA

***VTP 10/20/2018 JF updated Alley about board vote to pursue and told her we would keep her in the loop.

10/11/18

In progress

Brian Hubrich 027026 – ORD

Kimberly Massengale – 047670



change to? SP2318

Reserve


SP 2318, Page 8, section 6, Paragraph B,

Seniority was used

in the assignment ,

some hotels can be

cancled and some

can’t

Board voted 6-1 to Research with Steve-O before voting.





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A flight attendant on an 'out of base

reserve' assignment will be utilized by

integrating the FA into the seniority order

of the RAP's domicile. The OBR FA will be

able to choose his or her Call First

Preferences while on OBR.

Christine Eyler 037664 – ORD

Wynn Gunter 043964 - PDX


a change to? SP2318 Reserve


propose that if a FA works into a day off

for ANY reason, scheduled or not, he/she

receives compensation of at least MDG.

The day off begins at midnight of that day

not 0201. The flight attendant is also given

the choice to work into the day off with

impunity.

5/29/18 10/11 Policy Drafting In Progress

9/12 The Board found it is standard airline policy. Any portion

of pairing rolls into the next day (after 0201) should be paid time

and a half or MDG – scheduled or not.

Marie is going to be writing the policy

Kristin Collins 050106 - SFO


a change to? SP2317 Scheduling


propose that flight attendants should be

able to pick up a crew member posted

pairing IF they cannot get back into their

original pairing at a hub/scheduled

interruption support and crew support

does not have any open time to assign

them, or they cannot be placed on reserve

for the day.

6/4/18

8/9 The EC is going to talk to Steve-o about the policy and hash it out.

Tina Williams 038926 - MSP




Specific verbiage/policy regarding flight

delays (Rolling Delays)

9/12 Stacy will work on the policy.

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Keith Mackinnon 019773 - SLC



2 FA pairing, one calls off the remaining FA

chooses position preference.

6/4/18 Logistics are a problem

10/18 Already working on Upgrade policy

JULY BOARD 5-3 vote to pursue

Tawney Buttler

Better Rest Policy

10/11/18

Working on fatigue program including rest and duty rules.

6/14 Board voted to wait on voting until after we have

more information – after fatigue program discussion with Sonya.

Andrea Whidden 011342 - SLC

I would like to see a policy that shows a

detailed break down of daily hours

required so FA's don't get an LOI for going

under hours while on a LOA or I-LOA.

2/5

10/11/18 still waiting on IFL

Alisa Al-Sharif 059336 - BOI

Comments:

I think there needs to be some

clarification on policy regarding a reserve

flight attendant picking up anything,

company or crew posted, in open time.

I suggest that if a reserve flight attendant

is approved for early release then they

should be allowed to pick up from open

time, company or crew posted, on that

same calendar day, as long as report and

release times don't overlap.

4/26/18

SP2318 Reserve

10/01 Company has not approved the policy – see above

8/12/18 policy was written , sent to IFL WAITING

Danny Lewis 052993 - ORD


a change to? SP2316 Hours of Service

What is the new policy you propose? In

the event that a flight attendant

unexpectedly must remain overnight

outside of base with a pairing scheduled

the following day, the flight attendant is to

immediately be pulled from that pairing to

10/11/18

Incorporate lots of policies together.

We need a sit down policy day. EC needs to look at all that

we have.

Unanimous to wait on this, maybe incorporate into rolling delay.

5/16 Board voted to pursue

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be given their minimum FAA rest that

follows the completion of the overlapping

pairing. It is assumed that said flight

attendant does not have a clean change of

clothing for the following pairing, thus

that flight attendant is not fit for duty. The

burden should not fall on the flight

attendant to be forced to use a personal

emergency.

Chris Moon 046972 - SLC

Reserves don’t sit ready when there aren’t

any flights they can work.

10/11 Policy is written

Rebecca Bourbo 053540 – LAX

3 hour call out

10/12/18 WAITING IFL about test period

IFL is looking at pros and cons and cost, operations, etc.

12/13/17

Voted not to pursue. Will agree to a

Revised version, Trial period in LAX

11/16/17 Voted to pursue.

Lurice (Reesi) Di Muzio 027159 – ORD

Upgrade Preference

12/18/16 SP2317

Scheduling

Brian Hubrich 27026 – SLC

Kelly Miraldi 47633 – SFO

Vivian Yu – 049325

Kristen Grimes 023385 – DEN

01/03/17 SP 2317

Scheduling (SIP) VIA

Phone w/Jessica

A/C assignment to

domicile should be a

moot point now that

the Fas in the last 2 ½

years are al ERJ

qualified. A SEA-SLC

ERJ flight segment

should be able to be

posted and picked up

if the Company can

verify reserve A/C

10/11 Company has not approved the policy proposal – see above

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qualification. SIA

needs to look at SIP

restrictions and

whether they are

necessary.

Documents

DFW BOARD MEETING AGENDA - oursia.org