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A s a younger editor my dreams ran obsessively toward discover- ing the next Thomas Pynchon _— some blazing new master of warped American space-time. Amazingly enough, in 1987,1did, in the person of the then twenty-five-year-old David Foster Wallace, whose mind-bendingly original The Broom o f the System announced that the high-IQ novel of pinwheeling ideas was alive and well. Two books later, I am no longer his editor, though I remain his awestruck reader. The thudding sounds you’ ve been hear- ing lately are bound galleys ofWallaces new novel, Infinite Jest, hitting book reviewers’ desks— all 1,079 pages. It’ s a blockbuster comedy of substance abuse, family dysfunc- tion, and tennis, set in a postmillennial fu- ture, and it tackles our new nightmare: col- lective and individual psychic implosion. That Wallace can be side-splittingly funny about this does not detract from the serious- ness of his diagnosis. No other writer now working communicates so dazzlingly what life will feel like the day after tomorrow. GERALD HOWARD: InfiniteJest \s a daunt- ingly demanding novel, in terms of sheer time and quality of attention required. D o you have an ideal reader in mind? DAVID FOSTER WALLACE: My ideal reader would be twenty-seven, look eerily like Melanie Griffith, think every line o f the book was the best thing since sliced bread, and hope for nothing so fondly as to support me in all physical and emotional ways so I could write more books just like it. Nobody wants his ficdon to “ daunt.” We want it to seduce. GH: Why write fiction at all, let alone 1,100- page novels, in our age of attenuated at- tention spans? David Foster Wallace and his 1,079 mystical, brilliant pages. By Gerald Howard DFW: (a) Stories let us talk to one another about stuff that just can’ t be talked about any other way; no semantic model could explain why Cynthia O zick’ s image of float- ing Jews in “Levitation” mearis as much as it does; (b) I’ m pretty lonely most of die time, and fiction’ s one of the few experiences where loneliness can be both confronted and relieved. Drugs, movies where stuff blows up, loud parties— all these chase lone- liness away by making me forget my name’ s Dave and I live in a one-by-one box of bone no other party can penetrate or know. Fic- tion, poetry, music, really deep serious sex, and, in various ways, religion— these are the places (for me) where loneliness is counte- nanced, stared down, transfigured, treated. In lots of ways it’ s all there is. GH: Among older American writers, who are your literary heroes? DFW: My “heroes” are writers who seem like they’ ve persevered, kept at it, gotten better, not simply fallen into repeating the formulas of past successes. In this group I’ d put Don Delillo, William Gaddis, Tobias Wolff Cyn- thia Ozick, Charles Simic, Louise Gluck... GH: Among younger American writers, who are your literary peers? DFW: My favorite younger-type Americans include Denis Johnson, Rick Powers, A.M. Homes, a guy named George Saun- ders whose stuff s started showing up. I think Powers and Vollmann are pretty much the twin towers of this generation, whatever “ generation” (and “ peer” for that matter) means. GH: Your novel is full o f characters who are, in Neil Postman’ s phrase, amusing them- selves to death. Is this a prophecy or a sim- ple perception about our culture? DFW: There is something about being an American at the turn of the millennium that is deeply sad. And it seems to me sig- nificant that the American experience has gotten even sadder— more lost, more afraid, more empty-—as our Cold War en- emies have surrendered and our economy is shifting successfully from a manufactur- ing to an informational base and medicine has gotten more sophisticated and they’ ve even found a way to make chocolate fat- free. It’ s a great mystery, and one that’ s going to deepen for our children. GH: The Incandenza family in Infinite Jest makes Salinger’ s Glass family look like the Brady Bunch. D o you think families are the crucible of cultural disorder and misery? DFW: The idea that families are “ to blame” for anything is part of our culture’ s fetish for di- agnosis, blaming. Families and culture are the same thing, really— or rather what a family is is a tiny lab receptacle, a culture placed in a small space under terrific compression and heat. Families show what people who love one another can do to each other— they lit- erally make and break you. Think about our terms for describing families— the nuclear family, blood relations, etc. The language is always smarter than we are. Gerald Howard is an editor a t W W Norton. 58

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As a younger editor my dreams ran obsessively toward discover­ing the next Thomas Pynchon _— some blazing new master o f

warped American space-time. Amazingly enough, in 1987,1 did, in the person o f the then twenty-five-year-old David Foster Wallace, whose mind-bendingly original The Broom o f the System announced that the high-IQ novel o f pinwheeling ideas was alive and well. Two books later, I am no longer his editor, though I remain his awestruck reader.

The thudding sounds you’ve been hear­ing lately are bound galleys o f Wallaces new novel, Infinite Jest, hitting book reviewers’ desks— all 1,079 pages. It’s a blockbuster comedy o f substance abuse, family dysfunc­tion, and tennis, set in a postmillennial fu­ture, and it tackles our new nightmare: col­lective and individual psychic implosion. That Wallace can be side-splittingly funny about this does not detract from the serious­ness o f his diagnosis. N o other writer now working communicates so dazzlingly what life will feel like the day after tomorrow. GERALD HOWARD: Infinite Jest \s a daunt- ingly demanding novel, in terms o f sheer time and quality o f attention required. D o you have an ideal reader in mind?DAVID FOSTER WALLACE: My ideal reader would be twenty-seven, look eerily like Melanie Griffith, think every line o f the book was the best thing since sliced bread, and hope for nothing so fondly as to support me in all physical and emotional ways so I could write more books just like it. Nobody wants his ficdon to “daunt.” We want it to seduce. GH: Why write fiction at all, let alone 1,100- page novels, in our age o f attenuated at­tention spans?

David Foster Wallace

and his 1,079 mystical,

brilliant pages.By Gerald Howard

DFW: (a) Stories let us talk to one another about stuff that just can’t be talked about any other way; no semantic model could explain why Cynthia O zick’s image o f float­ing Jews in “Levitation” mearis as much as it does; (b) I’m pretty lonely most o f die time, and fiction’s one o f the few experiences where loneliness can be both confronted and relieved. Drugs, movies where stuff blows up, loud parties— all these chase lone­liness away by making me forget my nam e’s Dave and I live in a one-by-one box o f bone no other party can penetrate or know. Fic­tion, poetry, music, really deep serious sex, and, in various ways, religion— these are the places (for me) where loneliness is counte­nanced, stared down, transfigured, treated. In lots of ways it’s all there is.GH: Among older American writers, who are your literary heroes?DFW: My “heroes” are writers who seem like they’ve persevered, kept at it, gotten better, not simply fallen into repeating the formulas o f past successes. In this group I’d put Don Delillo, William Gaddis, Tobias Wolff Cyn­thia Ozick, Charles Simic, Louise G luck... GH: Am ong younger American writers, who are your literary peers?DFW: My favorite younger-type Americans include D en is Johnson, Rick Powers,

A.M. Homes, a guy named George Saun­ders whose stuff s started show ing up. I think Powers and Vollmann are pretty much the twin towers o f this generation, whatever “generation” (and “peer” for that matter) means.GH: Your novel is full o f characters who are, in Neil Postm an’s phrase, amusing them­selves to death. Is this a prophecy or a sim­ple perception about our culture?DFW: There is something about being an American at the turn o f the millennium that is deeply sad. And it seems to me sig­nificant that the American experience has gotten even sadder— more lost, more afraid, more empty-—as our Cold War en­emies have surrendered and our economy is shifting successfully from a manufactur­ing to an informational base and medicine has gotten more sophisticated and they’ve even found a way to make chocolate fat- free. It’s a great mystery, and one that’s going to deepen for our children.GH: The Incandenza family in Infinite Jest makes Salinger’s Glass family look like the Brady Bunch. D o you think families are the crucible of cultural disorder and misery? DFW: The idea that families are “to blame” for anything is part o f our culture’s fetish for di­agnosis, blaming. Families and culture are the same thing, really— or rather what a family is is a tiny lab receptacle, a culture placed in a small space under terrific compression and heat. Families show what people who love one another can do to each other— they lit­erally make and break you. Think about our terms for describing families— the nuclear family, blood relations, etc. The language is always smarter than we are.

Gerald Howard is an editor a t W W Norton.

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