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"Cosmogenic neutrinos detection" Round Table discussion “Exciting neutrino: from Pauli, Fermi and Pontecorvo to nowadays prospect” 16°th Lomonov conference on Elementary Particle Physics, Moscow 2228 August, 2013 P. Spillantini, INFN and University, Firenze 9/8/2013 1

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"Cosmogenic neutrinos detection"

Round Table discussion “Exciting neutrino: from Pauli, Fermi and Pontecorvo to nowadays prospect”

16°th Lomonov conference on Elementary Particle Physics, Moscow 22‐28 August, 2013

P. Spillantini, INFN and University, Firenze

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Observation of Ultra High Energy neutrinos

11th Lomonosov Conference on Elementary Particle PhysicsMoscow, August 21‐27, 2003

Sergio Bottai, INFN, Firenze, ItalyPiero Mazzinghi, INOA, Firenze, ItalyPiero Spillantini, University and INFN, Firenze, Italy

Continu

ed from

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From the ‘Extreme Universe Space Observatory’(EUSO)

to the ‘Extreme Energy Neutrino Observatory’

10th Lomonosov Conference on Elementary Particle Physics,Moscow, 23‐29 August 2001 

Continu

ed fro

m: 

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Protons coming from distances >20-50 Mpc interactwith the CMB (GKZ effect) producing pions,

and finally neutrinos.

Protons with E>1020eV interact several times beforedegrading under the GKZ cut-off

producing many νe and νμ neutrinos.

The energy of produced neutrinos is ≈ 1018eV or more

Cosmogenic neutrinos component

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This is the “less unprobable” neutrino componentexpected at the extreme energies.

It is not “model dependent”(i.e. it only depends from UHECR Emax and the proton source distribution)

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Fig. 2.1 – Artist view of the EUSO concept. The shower development occurs in the atmosphere layersbelow 30‐40 km a.s.l.; the isotopic fluorescence emission is proportional at any depth to the number of charged particles (mainly electrons) present in the shower front: Ne ≈ EeV / (1.4x10 

9). The UV yield is ≈4 photons per meter of electron track, almost independent from air pressure and temperature. 9/8/2013 7

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The most complete work was (@<2004)

“Ultra‐High Energy Neutrino Fluxes and Their Constraints”

(Kalashek, Kuzmin, Semokov, Sigl)

[arXiv:hep‐ph/0205050 v3 13 Dec 2002]

[Model consistent with gamma’s and UHECR data (Fly’sEye, Haverah Park, Yakytsk, AGASA)]

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EUSO

p + γ → Δ+(1232) → πNμν

eνν

minMax

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EUSO

p + γ → Δ+(1232) → πNμν

eνν

minMax

EUSO x 10

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Is it possible to increase the number of detected neutrino events?(EUSO-like from ISS)

-Decrease the energy threshold (5 x 1019eV 1018eV)by improving the sensor efficiency (0.20 0.50)by improving the light collection (pupil ∅ 2m 6m)

(what implies reflective systems and modularity)

-Increase the target volume-by increasing the FOV (60° 140.8°)

but limited to 90º by attenuation by air and by distance

…….

x 1.5x 9

(x 90)x 3

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ExtremeMax

EUSO

EUSO x 30

min

p + γ → Δ+(1232) →πNμν

eνν

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H (km) 400 400Total FoV (o) 60 90

Radius on ground (km) 235 400

Area on ground (103km2) 173 503

Target volume (km3) 1730 5030

Pixel on ground (km * km) 0.8 x 0.8 0.8x0.8

number of pixels) (.8x.8 km2) 270k 786k

Pupil diameter (m) 2.0 2.0 4.0 6.0 10.0

Photo detection efficiency   20% 50% 50% 50% 50%

E threshold (EeV) 50 30 8 3 1.2

Proton events/year, 

GKZ + uniform source distrib. 1200 4000 35k 300k 2000k

with Ep >100 EeV) 100 100 290 290 290

Neutrino events per year (≈min) 0.2 0.4 1.5  4.5 10

Neutrino events per year (≈Max) 4 6 12 14 18

One optical system

(EUSO like) Multi‐mirror

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After 2004: new data:

‐ GZK confirmed + (?) primary UHECR heavier than p (?)‐ Fermi‐LAT 

Ahlers et al. bestfit, consistent with HiRes spectrum and Fermi‐LAT diffuse gamma’s‘GZK neutrinos after Fermi‐LAT diffuse photon flux measurement’M.Ahlers et al., Astropart. Phys. 34, 106 (2010)

Ahlers and Halsen updates of lower limits (normalization to Auger data)  ‘Minimal Cosmogenic Neutrinos’ arXiv:1208.4181v1, 21 Aug 2012

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K+al pMax

K+al pextreme

A+al pbest fitA+H

p (A+Hp 10%)(A+H

p 1%)

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30xEUSO (1year) ARA (3years)

IC‐86 (10years)AUGER (Xyears)

K+al pMax

K+al pextreme

A+al pbest fitA+H

p(A+Hp 10%)(A+H

p 1%)

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30xEUSO ARA (3years)

IC‐86 (10years)

1200 km800 km 

AUGER (Xyears)K+al pMax

K+al pextreme

A+al pbest fitA+H

p(A+Hp 10%)(A+H

p 1%)

1 year

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30xEUSO 

AUGER (Xyears)IC‐86 (10years)

1200 km 800 km 

ARA(3years)

NSiFe

He

p

1 year

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H (km) 400 400 800 1200Total FoV (o) 60 90 90 90Radius on ground (km) 235 400 800 1200

Area on ground (103km2) 173 503 2000 4500

Target volume (w.e. km3) 1730 5030 20000 45000

Pixel on ground (km x km) 0.8 x 0.8 0.8x0.8 0.8x0.8 0.8x0.8number of pixels) (.8x.8 km2) 270k 786k 3000k 7000k

Pupil diameter (m) 2.0 4.0 6.0 10.0 12 18

Photo detection efficiency   50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50%

E threshold (EeV) 30 8 3 1.2 3 3

Proton events/year, 

GKZ + uniform source distrib. 4000 35k 300k 2000k 1200K 2700k

with Ep >100 EeV) 100 290 290 290 1180 2600

Neutrino events per year (≈min) 0.4 1.5  4.5 10 18 40

Neutrino events per year (≈Max) 6 12 14 18 56 126

Neutrino events per year (bestfit) 0.05 0.3 1 2.5 4 9

Neutrino events per year (px100%) 0.002 0.035 0.15 0.5 0.6 1.3

Neutrino events per year (px10%) ‐ 0.0025 0.015 0.08 0.06 0.13

Neutrino events per year (px1%) ‐ 0.0002 0.003 0.025 0.012 0.027

One optical system

(EUSO like) Multi‐mirror

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sEusox 2.5ø=4ø=12

sEusox 2.5ø=10ø=30

sEusox 2.5ø=6ø=18

bestfit

Px100%

Px1% Px10%

Maxmin

‐‐1

h= 400

 km

(EUSO

 Φ=2m)

h= 120

0 km

‐‐10

‐‐1

‐‐100

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Conclusions:

Cosmogenic neutrino detection is crucial for the neutrino entering the scene asa new instrument for Astrophysics, Cosmology and Particle Physics

New data have diminished their foreseen flux by at least 2 orders of magnitude

If the p component in UHECR is abundant, complex large optical systems can observecosmogenic neutrinos from space, but high altitude orbits could be necessary

If the heavy nuclei component prevails its ‘daugter’ cosmogenic neutrino flux isout of reach for any system. (also because the neutrino energy becomes too small for detection by radio‐systems)

In next few years the increase of UHECR statistics and the definition of their chargeshould help in clarifying the situation.

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Could you follow me?

Thank you!

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Rejection > 10-4

golden Fluorescence only

XmaxSelect.

ShapeSelect.

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(EUSO=1.7x106km2)

(EUSO x 3)

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Aspherical mirror + Schmidt corrector

Spherical mirror + Schmidt corrector optimized at marginal field angles

Spherical mirror + Schmidt corrector

Spherical mirror with ± 15° FOV

Spherical mirror with ± 25° FOV

Resolution of 5 m EDP reflecting systemINOA

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The optical surface is coupled to a structure of light rigid supports by a matrix of actuators, adjusted on the measurements of the wave front 

Active thin mirror concept

Ideal form

Strutture is deformed and deforms the membrane

Attuators compensatethe deformation

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deploymentd

single mirrorfield of view

total field of view

triggerdata handlingtelemetry

sensors

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