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CORVAIR CLUB OF CINCINNATI 2011 OFFICERS
Services and Advisors
Meetings Monthly meetings of the Corvair Club of Cincinnati, unless otherwise specified in this Newsletter, are held on the second Friday of each month starting at 8:00 PM. Currently, the meeting place is the Mount Healthy Community Center near the pool.
Newsletter The Negative Camber is the monthly newsletter of the Corvair Club of Cincinnati and is received free by all members. Ads and items for inclusion should be sent to the Editors:
Doug & Cindy Simon 678 East Rahn Road Dayton, Ohio 45429
(937) 433-6725 [email protected]
Deadline for material to be included in the Newsletter is the third Monday of each month for publication in the following month’s Newsletter.
President: Joe VonDerHaar (937) 392-3101
Vice President: Spencer Duffey (513) 726-5100
Secretary: Ralph Gubser (513) 741-8247
Treasurer: Mike Demeter (513) 737-7981
Club Store: Brian Heller (513) 931-9503
Club Library: Ralph Gubser (513) 741-8247
CLUB WEBSITE: http://mysite.verizon.net/resp0hvw/
The Prez Sez . . .
September 2011
Summer is moving right along. The Hamilton Car Parade and the 1stCorvairs-on-the-River is now behind us. I counted 9 Corvairs on hand. Several members received trophies at the Hamilton Parade. It was hot again, and we did have a little rain, but everyone prevailed.
We had 5 Corvairs make the trek to Ripley for the Club picnic. There was plenty of good food on hand. Carla took a few adventurist people out for a boat ride on the mighty Ohio. The rain stayed away, making for a successful day. We did have a special guest visit us from the north. Look for him elsewhere in the newsletter.
It is time to start thinking about some fall or winter events; a trip somewhere perhaps? Updates on some of the Club member projects with pictures would be nice. I know several projects are underway. Wes has his ‘68 painted and it is in re-assembly; Anthony is making headway with Subaru engine conversion; rumor has it that Doug’s car is back in action, and we can always count on Spencer for a project or two, three, four, five . . . Others??? Gather your update materials; we can’t wait to hear from you.
Here is something neat. Anthony posted some pictures of the Corvairs-on-the-River event on Corvair Center’s Forum. Last time I checked, it had over 300 views. I even think the previous owner of Dave Schwettman’s Lakewood noticed his old ride. That’s Cool !!!
See you at the next meeting . . . Vairs Rule!!!
Just-A-Minute
August 6, 2011
A short meeting was held towards the end of “Corvairs on the River.”
The meeting was called to order by Joe VonDerHaar. In attendance were Don Filkins, Don Berding, Spencer & Wilma Duffey, Dave Schwettman and Joe VonDerHaar.
No treasurer’s report was given.
OLD BUSINESS:
Members had a good time at the Hamilton Car Parade held at the end of July. Don Filkins, Mike Demeter, Tom VonDerHaar, Jim Powell and Ralph Gubser took home trophies.
“Corvairs on the River” was a success with 5 Corvairs attending and a total of 8 members and their family members, making 15 in attendance. Other commitments kept a few others away. Next year will be a must do.
NEW BUSINESS:
Don Filkins mentioned we should have our roster updated and redistributed. Joe mentioned that Mike Demeter had updated emails and numbers earlier in the year. It probably has not been redistributed yet. We will get one out shortly.
We discussed the Denver Corsa meet for a short while and pondered what it would take to someday host one in the Cincinnati area. It was decided to table to a later date and gain more input from other Club members.
The meeting was closed by Joe VonDerHaar.
Editor’s Corner
Club website: http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/resp0hvw/ My cell phone number has changed; it is now 937-671-VAIR. The Mt. Healthy Wheels Car Show will be held on September 10th. Registration starts at 11 a.m. The show starts at 2 p.m. We would like to have a good showing of Corvairs at the show to support the City of Mt. Healthy since they let us use their meeting room every month. This date is the day after the September meeting. Thanks, Doug
Happy Birthday & Happy Anniversary to All Celebrating During the
Month of September!
AUGUST 2011 CORVAIRS ON THE RIVER (CONT.)
Corvair with a Modern Fuel Injected Boxer Motor Submitted by Anthony Johnson
Performing engine swaps with collectible cars is a delicate thing. The installation of modern small blocks in ‘55-’57 Chevys, early Camaros and yes, Corvairs, have given owners the immediate and reliable benefits of smooth power and reliability that come from direct fuel injection, computer controls and a wide selection of performance parts for daily use. The same has gone for Corvairs that use fuel injected swaps. Flat head Porsche engines are common swaps for VW Karmann Ghias and VW Bugs, but not Corvairs.
All of those swaps are great, but they aren't exactly original at this point. Plus, Porsche swaps are prohibitively expensive. The majority of the Corvair V8 swaps removed the backseat and changed the size of the cockpit by pushing the drive closer to the dash. The Corvair is a very special niche within the Bowtie world, and I wanted to blaze new trails. Over 50 years after its debut, the basic IRS platform remains as solid as ever.
Since modern technology lets us exploit the real potential of a Corvair, what other modern engine fits the bill for a rear-engine swap?
For me, the answer turned out to be the Subaru EJ20T turbo motor, a boxer design that’s specially imported from Japan. In both size and weight, it resembles the Corvairs vintage flat six design.
In power, it's a whole different story. The Subaru EJ20 turbo is a 2.0 Litre DOHC Turbo and intercooled engine that puts out about 260 horsepower (we swapped the turbo and should be well over 300Hp). I purchased this motor from Tiger Japanese along with a Mega Squirt Electronic Control Unit (ECU) and engine harness.
My goal was to install it in my cherry red late-model 1967 Corvair Monza coupe with the stoutest transaxle able to handle over 300-horsepower, and with resulting upgrades drive and handle like a new car rather than a 60’s relic. Since late-model Corvairs are still cheap and plentiful, there was much budget room to absorb the cost of the very sophisticated EJ20T engine, Porsche 915 transaxle, and associated parts and labor.
There were a lot of reasons why I chose the Subie engine. First of all, there’s the Wow Factor: who can argue with a modern power plant in a great looking old body? The EJ20T Subie is light years more advanced than anything that can be done to an old Chevy flat six. Of course, a modern GM V-8 is great, but where’s the challenge there? I had to have one, and it had to contain the forged pistons used in Japan so we can hop it up to over 400Hp at a later date.
The EJ20T also has a solid track record. The VW Beetle/Karmann/Vanagon people have been doing this for a while with great results. Scott McIntosh, the mechanic and fabricator working with me, has had great luck swapping Subie motors into older rear-engine designs. Scott installed a Subaru 2.5 into a Westfalia Vanagon and created something reliable, tractable, torquey, efficient and able to get out of its own way.
It’s a bit esoteric, but the engine choice even has some General Motors DNA in its makeup. Earlier in the last decade, GM owned a share of Subaru. They also put this engine in the Saab 9-2x, a badge-engineered WRX STi. Not that this took anything but a back seat to performance, but it was interesting.
Finally, I wanted to bridge generations. Sixties hot-rodders built up their V-8 muscle machines with over-the-counter speed parts, but the small-car and import crowd had just handling, with very little in the way of speed. “Tuner” cars were at least a generation away. What if I matched the modern, state-of-the-art “tuner” motor with my pristine ’67? How would the Evo/WRX crowd react to my bridge-building project? The Corvair never got its due in either crowd. Now it can.
Once I purchased the EJ20 turbo engine, 915 transaxle and Kennedy Engineering engine adapter, I installed a steering box from Flaming River Performance, quick steering arms from Rafee Corvair, all new berlin performance bushings, an engine and transaxle subframe and a tube roll cage and cockpit subframe. In addition to the transaxle, we went with Porsche 930 CV joints and high quality aircraft allow heat-treated steel Sway-A-Way 930 axles in the rear. The center part of the 930 axle is sized to twist like a torsion bar under heavy loads absorbing a large portion of the shock transmitted from the wheel to the gearbox to prevent damage to the 915.
In fact, the biggest problem we encountered was devising a way to use the rear Porsche transaxle with the Corvair’s independent rear suspension. There were no provisions for suspension pickup points, so Scott ended up fabricating his own design.
Nowadays, my Corvair has not only explosive power, but also remarkable road-holding to match it. I like to say that it handled pretty good when we started but now dives into corners like a BMW sports car.
An online Corvair board commenter called Scott and I, “Lewis & Clark” for our trailblazing with this swap. We certainly appreciate the praise. We set out to make this cost-effective for someone with the necessary skills, and we look forward to many more Corvair owners using our roadmap.
FVair Trade Two 15-inch Ralley wheels; one 14-inch Ralley wheel; eleven aluminum wheels,13 x 5.5 Ansen [Two], 14 x 7 Ansen [two], 15 x 7 Foresight [two], unknown 15 x 8.5 [two], unknown14 x 8.5 {two] Early model complete floor pan set new Clark’s in box 61-64 battery box Clark’s C4361 White convertible top: Clark’s C11465 in box Convertible top roof rail weatherstrip installation kit Clark’s C8492 new in pkg. 60-64 engine lid weatherstrip Clark’s C9900 new in bag 65-69 engine lid weatherstrip Clark’s C805RR [three] 65-69 right muffler hanger Clark’s C253R 62-69 convertible top pads Clark’s C4515 in bag Four 1965 wheel openings in GM wrappers Front shocks Clark’s C2834 Heater hoses C840A C386R
This fellow lost his wife and his job; you guys know what this stuff is worth. Call me if you need anything, Roger 859-331-7505.
1965-9 hood/engine lid, dark blue/turquoise, mostly rust/dent free; still has latch attached. Clark’s gets $65 for these; my price, $35; will deliver up to 50 miles from Dayton, OH. Doug Simon, [email protected] or 937-671-8247.
2011 CCC MEMBERSHIP ROSTER
Last Name First Name City Phone E-Mail
Bennetto John & Verona Cincinnati, OH 513-522-0008 [email protected]
Berding Don Harrison, OH 513-367-4151 513-652-0614
Brav Hank & Joy Cincinnati, OH 513-683-6258 [email protected]
Crowell Robert & Linda Batesville, IN 812-934-4364 [email protected]
Custer John & Shanda Loveland, OH 513-683-6258 [email protected]
Demeter Mike & Patty Hamilton, OH 513-777-7981 [email protected], [email protected]
Duffey Spencer & Wilma Hamilton, OH 513-726-5100 [email protected]
Dye Charlie Phoenix, AZ 623-247-3272
Filkins Don Cincinnati, OH 513-631-0148 [email protected]
Fry Jerry Cincinnati, OH 513-662-6551
Greiwe Wesley Loveland, OH 513-683-5724 [email protected]
Gubser Ralph & Sandy Cincinnati, OH 513-741-8247 [email protected]
Haar Mike Cincinnati, OH 513-631-5784 [email protected]
Heller Brian & Margie Cincinnati, OH 513-931-9503
Jennings Roger & Joyce Fort Wright, KY 859-331-7505 [email protected]
Johnson Anthony Hamilton, OH 513-504-5526 [email protected]
Larrick Mick Batavia, OH 513-625-4226 [email protected]
Lemmerman Karl & Kathie Cincinnati, OH 513-521-2648 [email protected]
Miller Lowell & Diana Bloomingburg, OH 740-437-7776 [email protected], [email protected]
Nyktas George Clarksville, OH 513-314-1931 [email protected]
Powell Jim & Ruth Cincinnati, OH 513-528-5448 [email protected]
Schwettman Dave & Kim Felicity, OH 513-876-0522 [email protected]
Shaw Gary & Nina Brockville, IN 765-647 676
Simon Doug & Cindy Dayton, OH 937-433-6725 [email protected], [email protected]
Thomas Larry & Charlene Milford, OH 513-575-0346 [email protected]
VonDerHaar Joe & Carla Ripley, OH 937-392-3101 [email protected]
VonDerHaar Tom & Mary Ann Hamilton, OH 513-856-9028
From the San Diego Corvair Club Newsletter December 1991 or January 1992
Upcoming Events September 9, 2011 8:00 PM: Monthly CCC Meeting, Mt. Healthy Community Center September 10, 2011 11:00 AM: Mt. Healthy Car Show, City Park September 10, 2011 3:00 PM: Dayton Corvair Club Ronald McDonald House Cruise-In Sugarcreek Plaza just south of I-675 on Wilmington Pike in Bellbrook September 10, 2011 South Coast CORSA All Corvair Show, Downey, CA 310-998-0095 / [email protected] September 14-16, 2011 Circle City Corvairs Hoosier Auto Show & Swap, Indianapolis, IN 317-852-4864 September 16-17, 2011 Central Pennsylvania Corvair Club Corvair Days, Hershey, PA 717-921-8124 / [email protected] September 17, 2011 Ventura County Corvairs Fun Autocross, Camarillo, CA [email protected] September 22-23, 2011 East Tennessee Corvair Club, Kingsport, TN 423-245-2723 September 29-October 1, 2011 Heart of America Corvair Owners Association, Great Plains Roundup, Excelsior Springs, MO; Scott Allison, 816-847-8677 / [email protected] October 14-16, 2011 North Texas Corvair Association Corvair Heritage Day, Dallas, TX Geary Grimes, 817-703-4588; Dan Lupton, 800-344-9283 October 23-30, 2011 Corvair Society of America Ocean Cruise, Caribbean Sea Sail on Allure of the Seas with your Corvair friends from Fort Lauderdale, FL to Haiti, Jamaica & Cozumel, Mexico November 4-6, 2011 Central Florida Corvair Corvair Affair, Saint Augustine, FL Sarah Beltrami, 386-256-0399 November 11, 2011 8:00 PM: Monthly CCC Meeting, Mt. Healthy Community Center December 3, 2011 (Tentative) CCC Christmas Dinner at Vincenzo’s
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