COMMENT SUMMARY DOWNTOWN PALM HAROBR OPEN …€¦ · COMMENT SUMMARY DOWNTOWN PALM HAROBR OPEN HOUSE January 26, 2017 (20 Total Pages) • Character and Identity Flip Chart Comments

COMMENT SUMMARY

DOWNTOWN PALM HAROBR OPEN HOUSE

January 26, 2017

(20 Total Pages)

• Character and Identity Flip Chart Comments • Character and Identity Image Board Preferences

• Connectivity Flip Chart Comments • Branding and Marketing Flip Chart Comments • Branding and Marketing Tagline Comments

• Master Plan Flip Chart Comments • Submitted Comment Cards

DOWNTOWN PALM HARBOR OPEN HOUSE January 26, 2017

CHARACTER / IDENTITY

Flip Chart Comments

(Recorded on index cards)

• Crystal Beach; movie night or talent night at the park to bring people together

• Need to provide connection from Downtown to west side of Alt 19 all way to water.

Need to have multiple story buildings w/retail on 1st floor and apartments, restaurants on 2nd floor – rooftop restaurants, views of water would be great.

• Need a better connection of Downtown PH to Pop Stansell and the water. Old San Marino Hotel on the water would be nice to attract.

• Would like to see a downtown area that encourages people to visit and roam.

Residences over businesses option 8 for example.

We are not taking advantage of the view form top of Florida Avenue towards water to the west. Rooftop restaurant? Retail on bottom floor.

• No architectural gateway feature played out / not authentic

• Alt 19 and Florida Ave; pedestrian safety; need crossing

• More family functions; do an arts look (#20 and #21); more boutiques and fun functions

• Mixed-use; retail; pedestrian-friendly

• Identity – family-friendly Holistic/Arts Renaissance

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WHICH THREE PICTURES MOST REPRSENT THE DOWNTOWN YOU WANT TO SEE?

- Write the three corresponding numbers from the Character / Identity image board

- Add a couple words for why these picture(s) best represent your vision for Downtown Palm Harbor (e.g., outdoor cafes; walkable; etc.)

• #11 – everyone coming together in a relaxed atmosphere; #16 – love the open creativity where

people can express their talents; #14 – love the idea of relaxed outdoor dining Crystal Beach; movie night or talent night at the park to bring people together

• Need to provide connection from Downtown to west side of Alt 19 all way to water.

Need to have multiple story buildings w/retail on 1st floor and apartments, restaurants on 2nd floor – rooftop restaurants, views of water would be great.

• #1 and #4 – mixed-use / live-work; #10

• #11 - family events; #16 & 20 – art festival; #8 – mixed-use buildings

Identity – family-friendly Holistic/Arts Renaissance • #1 – character; #4 – style; #2 – key west look

• #1 – good urban form w/mixed-use and live work; #8 – outdoor dining; street life; #17 –

festivals, activities

• #8; #11; #17

• #5 – pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly and restaurant; #8 – restaurant and mixed-use and attractive buildings; #15 – festivals

• #8 – restaurant with outdoor seating and trees; #14 – outdoor restaurant family-owned; #15 –

outdoor events to enjoy the weather; #9 – more monuments – eye appealing

• Need a better connection of Downtown PH to Pop Stansell and the water. Old San Marino Hotel on the water would be nice to attract.

• #8; #16; #11 – more shops & family fun centered rather than alcohol related restaurants

• Would like to see a downtown area that encourages people to visit and roam.

Residences over businesses option 8 for example.

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• #2 and #18 – more bicycle-friendly

We are not taking advantage of the view form top of Florida Avenue towards water to the west. Rooftop restaurant? Retail on bottom floor.

• No architectural gateway feature played out / not authentic

• #8; #14; #6

• Alt 19 and Florida Ave; pedestrian safety; need crossing

• #8; #15; #1

• #5 and #6 – Pedestrian and pet-friendly; #10 – family-oriented; #7 and #2 – historic buildings;

mixed

• #8 – looks like a “home” town but #2 may be more easily rendered; #5 – user-friendly (#6 could be in #5’s area); #15 – fun space- but too crowded

• #11; #6; #15

• #8 – outdoor dining – shops walkable time out; #11 family spot to gather; #17 – events for the

community green market

• #8; #17; #20

• #5; #10; #20

• #8; #17; #20

• #7; #8; #15

• #9; #17; #21

• #8; #11; #1 – no more offices; more retail

• #8; #15; #21 0 (like #9 – keep)

• More family functions; do an arts look (#20 and #21); more boutiques and fun functions

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• Mixed-use; retail; pedestrian-friendly

• #8 – mixed-use adds charm to area; #2 – restaurants on bottom to people watch; #15 –

festivals to bring community together

• #11 – Pop Stansell Park dream! From a family mother to a manager of downtown business – movies, yoga, festivals at Pop Stansell; #6 – dog-friendly – separate park at Pop Stansell – family-friendly; #8 – inviting business fronts / retail space allowing for individuality! Draw and invite connections between people.

• #2; #6; #15; #10 – community-oriented, quaint, family-friendly; #9 – ugly art work, not in

character

• #1; #8; #17

• #8 – more shops and restaurants; #17 – more high-end craft shows; #21

• #2 – more retail shops; #11 – more family activities; #20 – more arts

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CONNECTIVITY

Flip Chart Comments

• Signage (need more)

• Purpose of copper art? What does it represent?

• Another entrance into Palm Harbor

• Dangerous crossing Alt 19

• Roundabout is a good idea at Alt 19

• Like crossing with a median

• 11th and Nebraska o Crosswalk o Entrance to downtown

• Bike racks

• Something to slow traffic down 11th and Nebraska

• Benches

• Similar layout to downtown Dunedin

• More noticeable wayfinding

• More noticeable entrance like a gateway

• On-street parking on Nebraska from Alt 19 to Omaha

• Street lighting

• Expanding framing of downtown with street treatments

• Family-friendly events

• Golf cart friendly (next to Ped. Crossing – see bottom right photo)

• Extend study to Pop Stansell Park or further (ball fields)

• Making parks more visible to visitors and accessible to families

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CONNECTIVITY

Flip Chart Comments

• Crosswalk to encompass entire intersection

• Extend on-street parking on 11th and 12th street from Indiana to Nebraska

• Street lighting

• Like Dunedin: family-friendly/dog-friendly; festivals; restaurants

• Want a roundabout @ Florida and Alt 19; would be better than light

• No bump outs

• Strong visual connection west of Alt 19 using landscaping, streetscaping; capitalize on the

viewshed

• Want bumpouts

• Wider sidewalks

• Pedestrian island on Alt 19 and Florida if no roundabout

• Left turn on Nebraska and Alt 19

• Traffic light or roundabout for Alt 19 and Florida Ave

• Skate park at Ball Fields

• Roundabout @ Alt 19 / Florida Ave – improves safety for all modes of travel (bikes/peds/vehicles), improves access

• Pedestrian structure over Alt 19

• Traffic light only w/no roundabout on Florida Avenue and Alt 19

• Left turns on Alt 19 no matter which direction are very difficult

• CRA for downtown

• Bury overhead electric wires on Florida Ave west of Alt 19

• Metal benches and trash cans

• Sidewalks on north side of Nebraska, 12th to Alt 19

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CONNECTIVITY

Flip Chart Comments

• Sidewalks on Alt 19 west side of Delaware to Florida Avenue

• Farmers market in downtown

• Rail station rest area on trail made to like first station that was in Palm Harbor (PH museum

has photo)

• Move Pinellas Trail crossing (on the west side of Florida Avenue at least one car length away from intersection (for safety)

• Palm Harbor City Center w/fountains, outdoor eating, seating, retail

• Street lighting, continual sidewalks

• Off-street parking – no meters

• Parking lots

• No roundabouts

• Golf carts / bike-friendly

• Lighting

• Safety

• Synchronized traffic lights

o Florida and Alt 19, and Nebraska and Alt 19

• Expand study area to north and west

• Good visibility if a left onto Alt 19 from Nebraska

• Parking

• Traffic calming downtown

• Single, large roundabout between Nebraska and Florida Ave

• Pole banners and gateway signs

• Roundabout with pedestrian flashers

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CONNECTIVITY

Flip Chart Comments

• Gateway signage at all major roads leading into Palm Harbor similar to what is in Dunedin or

Clearwater

• Pedestrian and bikers run stop signs at Florida Ave and Alt 19

• Trail is too close to Alt 19 at Florida Avenue

• More traditional, warm, welcoming wayfinding signs

• New signage at Reba Sutton White Chapel

• Replace oak trees that have died on Reba Sutton White Chapel

• Improve boat ramps at Pop Stansell Park

• Add additional boat ramp at Alt 19 ramp

• Community building activities

• Light pole banners along Alt 19 from Michigan to Indiana

• Roundabout (rotary) with flashing pedestrian crossing @ Florida and Alt 19

• Roundabout w/a tall sign that says Welcome to Downtown Palm Harbor

• Bench seating on the top of the hill on the east side of Omaha looking west toward the bay

• Pedestrian overpass

• Expand study area from Nebraska to the library

• Multiple signage in conjunction with a roundabout

• Sidewalks w/markers on Nebraska outside of bars, restaurants (11th Street and Nebraska)

• Better lighting on Nebraska and 11th

• Crosswalks

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BRANDING / MARKETING

WHAT’S YOUR TAGLINE FOR DOWNTOWN PALM HARBOR?

• Palm Harbor Chalk Art Festival

Food truck rallies 4th Fridays (bring back) More music festivals Taste of Palm Harbor, etc., etc.

• #P4P (Passion 4 Palm Harbor)

• #PalmHarborLivin

Palm Harbor Feels #DTPH

• “Feel” - Historic Florida - Family-Friendly - Quaint

(You don’t need a tagline; you need shops and restaurants and events)

• Palm Harbor – “Where Art meets Soul” (brand as arts, holistic, wellness interests)

• Pretty Palm Harbor (love the visitor map idea)

• Pearl of Pinellas

Historic Palm Harbor (street lights w/banners along Alt 19 within study boundary; Indiana to Michigan)

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BRANDING AND MARKETING

Flip Chart Comments

• Bridging the old with the new

• Citrus / Palm trees

• Music / art / food

• Restaurants District as a magnet expand number / offerings

• “Event” approach draws 4 / weekend only (need a magnet that attracts daily)

• DTPH

• Interchangeable banners

• Marketing downtown vs historic

• DTPH

• Eclectic Brand – no specific style

• Train Depot (Trail) History

• Farmers Markets

• Pet-friendly

• Dining guides

• Bumper stickers

• Poll Banners

• The history is in the storm

o Not the buildings o Market story and modern style

• “Cracker – feel”

• Dining guide on post in distance

• See logo w/P.H. fire department

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BRANDING AND MARKETING

Flip Chart Comments

• Logo on Board (drawing)

• Historical open house tours

• Music festivals (blues)

• Bike rally

• Artwork monuments / statutes

• More palm trees

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DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN

Flip Chart Comments

• More lighting and sidewalks

• Trash pick-up and maintenance of streets

• Availability of space in the downtown for retail / restaurants

• More activities for kids and seniors

• Signage / identifier (wayfinding)

• Florida Avenue – outdoor cafes; water fountains

• Not enough off-street parking

• Farmers Market

• Corner of Florida Avenue and Alt 19 – when auto shops leave don’t allow same type of use

• No roundabout

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COMMENT CARD SUMMARY

• Roundabout

• Palm Harbor needs an amenity focal point at the Pinellas Trail / Florida Ave

Would be awesome to reconstruct the old Victorian Train Station to provide restrooms, welcome center, ice cream, history of orange industry (old packing house) for users of the trail. Also, build roundabout @ Florida Avenue / Alt 19

• Roundabout (rotary) with flashing pedestrian crossings @ Florida + Alt 19

• Locals do not want business on the west of Alt 19!

• Build a roundabout ASAP

• County needs to designate actual resources to Palm Harbor parks+rec, County parks + the downtown area

It can’t grow until it’s a county priority – or incorporate!! Also need strong leadership in Palm Harbor – without a strong leader (no mayor) it will continue to flounder under the direction of volunteers.

• I love where I live, I’m walking distance to downtown. However, w/geographic solutions in pretty much every building there’s no room for boutiques, small business, or growth. I work on Ohio + Alt 19 and that’s no even recognized as downtown? I’m a single mom. I love citrus fest, parrot head and roctoberfest but there’s nothing else for my family and I to do here. How can you ask for map/directional likes w/o anything to show? A historic walk would take 2 mins. Is this a realistic master plan? There’s no true detail or insight. I’ve told you I love where I live. Give me a significant reason to tell others why they should love it too! The chamber needs to be run by young entrepreneurs who want to be involved and can make a difference. I’ve been saying for years. Is my voice really heard? Give me something to make a tagline for. (40 yo/female/single mom)

• Can fire hydrants cover all of the D.P.H? (distance?)

• Why light up bar trash and drinks; nothing for family life; ice cream parlor

• Can we include more residential houses in next study (J. Drake 727-492-0469)

• Keep Palm Harbor unincorporated

• Preserve historic buildings


COMMENT CARD SUMMARY

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Marshall Deitch 1431 Florida Ave. Palm Harbor, Florida 34683 727-786-1264

Retired CAD Drafter of EminEfnt Domain Projects Member : People of Strength [Local] Member: Amputee Coalition [Washington D.C.]

Subject: Open House: Downtown Palm Harbor-Master Plan Update Meeting 1/26/2017 P.H. Univ. High School

Meeting Organizer [Name not in mailer to P.H. Residents]

I have been living at this address over 30 years and have seen the improvements and changes as they happened in that time period on my street and in down town Palm Harbor. The changes have all been very good with some minor errors. I have been a draftsman in the past for projects mostly in eminent domain here or in other states and countries. I do have a better view of the things proposed or not. I looked up and printed out the P.H. plans. http://www.pinellascounty.org/plan/pdf files/DHPMP.pdf [Nothing in this report has addressed ADA]

Palm Harbor has several unused structures and land within short distances from the report area that should be looked into with this meeting. Current land for parking has been and continues to be very limited. People seeing no parking is available avoid parking for events. This lowers attendance and venders wanting to be here.

I suggest the fallowing that will increase land use for multiple purposes that is open for use now.

1. Open land across the street from the P.H. Univ. could become a parking lot with a Jolly Trolley as a shuttle for those coming to P.H. events on week ends, nights, school use parking and school event use. Current close parking can become handicapped parking.

2. With two Jolly Trollies moving people to and from every 15 min. or less as a shuttle bus. [For example] This land is now not 100% useable for the school or event parking. Just by filling it with dirt. Hundreds of people would not avoid week end events here because the parking there is now available.

3. Currently no alterations on Nebraska Ave. are allowed now. There is nothing about converting some streets to a single direction street like Florida and Nebraska. By doing this Nebraska on one side increases the parking and traffic flow. Currently Florida Ave. dead ends as you go east. It would be less costly to open this up than rebuilding places for parking.

4. Stancil Park has been nicely done but it is getting used for a boat launch area which it was not intended. The fishing pier entry is not ADA accessible from the land. Extending the Palm Harbor features and plans increase the contact with this area. It now becomes a part of the plans by default and looks.

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5. If the plan is implemented this park must be part of the plans. People will park on the land at event times and destroy the park as a parking location which it was not intended. The park currently needs some work as it has aged.

6. In the future all meetings related to the areas of Palm Harbor will include information on access to a meeting and those running the meeting. [Locating parking] This was not included in this meeting notice.

7. Notice everyone about any modifications to public or private land will be subject to ADA laws of the county and federal government. Always include this in all plans and meetings. Private and public areas are subject to these requirements and costs. Remember if you modify or rebuild it you must include ADA in the cost and plans.

It would be nice to know who instigated this mailer. Who is conducting this get together. [Not in the mailerfor this meeting]

It is also important to show unfamiliar drivers the location on handicapped parking inside this school parking and on any future meetings and locations organizing a meeting.

I do not want to see unprofessional plans or work in my area I live in. This is why I am here today. Select a good firm to make a year plan from scratch. The one I printed out began in 2001 with multiple revisions. This plan cannot be revised again. Extract what can be used for a new plan and begin from the beginning again for the next 25 years.

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COMMENT SUMMARY DOWNTOWN PALM HAROBR OPEN …€¦ · COMMENT SUMMARY DOWNTOWN PALM HAROBR OPEN HOUSE January 26, 2017 (20 Total Pages) • Character and Identity Flip Chart Comments