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Katie can l t be here so j usc: she asked me t·o come.

with er 50 weB like, c·aTIf

be me today?

LT. FAINE: 8be is frie with

Katie and sbe is a detective Bran

detect e that wor ITIe. So she's y

to talk to

DE'T. TER: 1'11 just turn

phone- off. Is YDur one off?

SlKYLi1iR: I donlt have a e.

DKT. C2i.RTER: I kno\{ ne will 'start

going crazy.

LT. That 1 S a mean stion

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so sorry; Skylar

LT. o r y - no.,

eT reason I did that r I was tal ng to

her I 5 weil, would you want me to call

h r reet on her phone or you want me 0 call

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BET. C2\.RTER: It 1 sal ot r it r s a

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11 LT. FAINE: This just like the other

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super nerVOUB. I uncl:e"Istana,

14 u .know, Ka I :calked to you the other

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look ck to Fri if you er sitting here

th us there wasn't i real bad or we never

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threateni or menacing

so. I erstand r, but t y1s 9 to

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just the sams, y? I.ve \lTOn 1 t re as long

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23 8 iLnd I! 11 get to horne

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LT. FAINE: l' TIl SO ?

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LT ~ FAI I think so r v... e

t·1 sour p d fS I j.ust told your

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T. CARTER: Just take :S Olr.-e

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9 situation, but d hr.eath.s. We r ve g-ot some

pa rwork c we have to do with e

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LT F...:L?.INE: n - y di 1 t

know your .s 1 Se is- is jus·t: t11€

No 18 ar ,old

the Social S€curity+ do they?

15 LT. FA TNE :1'.h i s same. This

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LT. FAINE: Is it at e Y?

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DET. CARTER: Okay, So do

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JJh huh.

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GET. CARTE.-R..: ND, we're just asking

you where YOll worked, t's just Ii conversation.

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SKYLAR: Okay.

LT. FAINE': We "",rer·e tal ng st

.Durselves earlier ther it was Countr Sider was

it in.g roo You ow, we're wn so

the rount si w., w.as it Count Si

rin ro?

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any 1: to exercise tbese r bts and not answer

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ey wbine a ttle tDa mu r me. r "

the little bit 01 r .

LT. INE: Brooke" wee t re ing to

ust like we h other day. I mean S ar f .c,.BraD sitt c there but yOU! go by

S lar. If~l r these things out ud and

r tial t re if you can. tIs e

e-xac t form t we had the 0 r y. You

t ght to rema D si nt. h g s

and ",;ill be us iust you in a court of

You, have the t to talk to a and

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afford to hire

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urit ell t loS 0 just that,

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eka:y wi lL:( jt:st sign na..me on first

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SKYLAR: No, tha u.

T. CARTER: I just want to ma

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DET. ER: Did u du:ate t?

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LT. INE. She's going to uJre

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DEer. CARTER: Go seho Are you

co.mmute or are u going to there?

SKYLliR; there.

20 DET. CARTER: ~hat will be fun.

21 LT. Okay. Like en you

22 first wal d in I just want to ask you h

23 thi s are going b it1s P ly pretty rou

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SKYLAR:; y I ve been tal ng to

mOE a lot.

LT," FAl NE: A l a't? ay. 'Are 'they

ingo y? I m,ean I ow this is r y hard

u but tJs ha for th€m as parents too. D6

t y seem i they'1 re db g or

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LT. INE: Okay. Do YDU thin k do

t e a tter ea of wha t! S ing now

siLl.ce all that en ance

and 11m just kind of cur us. I IteaTl I ki of

won r for t al1se I OW thBY were just

really ing to get so~e answe=s the other day.

An d I was I i f we 11 r i t will be so mn c h e as i e r I

you OWl if you talk to Skylar. You ow! and

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at I will do, right now is 1111

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you know~ we took phones and

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that stu and just ex ne at stuff; . So then

hey i r.e like c.al ors olve ng to

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So t ylve en their part Ie welre

our part.

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us a lot of conversation with the two

doctors primarily that have really been - rea ly

ef:. 100 ng at her remains. We have some I:lOr€

qu€stions, 'Okay?

DE! C.~RTER: u tell them to

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DET. ER: The team, did you text

SKYLAR: At our house?

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SKYLAR: Are you go 9 to take me

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15 SKYLAR; Are you going to take

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3 LT_ FAINE: ~his is just like the

other day_ Rerr-e.mber I kep-t telling you that just

5 like nGthing r ·eal bad --we're not here kYecause

6 yoti did anything bad like that Dr threaten YDU, or

7 nothing like that. Welre just trying to find out,

you know, the truth for her. Remember we talked

9 about that. And you, y o urself, i~ like I k now sh~

1D des·erved - - I know .s be des eTvsd better.

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12 LT ..FAINE: So do we. Remember T so

13 do we. I talked to you! I kno"", you are a scar'ed

14 18-y.ear-old girl thact until. Friday you carried

15 this on y o ur own, you know, and we know that.

16 Jl~nd, you know, I mean, ",'etalked a long time

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Y'ou dn~t want to push to ha

caDse she W:alS a and D:e-w t

j u.s t ::0 k re was no heart at You

he he.:: for a little bit t re like on lap.

then you wrapp ber in a towel a you 'w·ent

dowTIstair b. rnta. egarage. Got

called like I'm just go n~ to call like

mom f s n shovel or SCHn-e 9 1 t t ...

took her -out and t her itt sbe ow grave

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in there, you just L h€r i~ re a

v.ere.d he.r up. ? I s that d o.es t bat sound

ike t we talked- eut Fxi o

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we ere t re a long time that day and

dig 9 up her rem~ins eve t g.

king with o VB

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DST. CARTER~ We just want to put

5 her to rest. We waD~ her -- here!s the thing~

5 listen, honey, I know that this is terrible

7 situation, okay? Just listen to me, okay? You

8 are not the only IS-year-old girl who's been in

9 this situation that it was too late to have an

10 abortion and your entire life is about to be

11 fucked, okay? So just breathe. But the important

12 thing about it is Dot me, not you, not him, what

13 matters is ber. Ok-ay?

14 I think that you want to giva he~ a

15 proper burial and you want to giv-e her a prOper

16 final resting situation. But in order to do that

17 we need to know everything, okay? You cannot go

18 back and change anything that YDU did. But we can

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20 If you need t6 close your eyes to say it if vou

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22 tell us everything that happened because the

23 doctors ,already know r okay? They I ve alr €ady

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SK'YL1'.F.~ You think I ki ll2d her?

DET. Cl'~RTER: Th.at.! ,s not wbat I" m

saying. That's not what 11m saying. Whet 11m

saying is what hapP€['J. .ed when youd-ecided that you

were -- before you buried her f okay? So a l l of

those th i ngs we need to know, okay. They) re .going

to be able to tell us medically what happened. So

it's really important be~ause I want to know why,

I want to know~ you knowj did you feel like that

~;ras your only option? Did. you f -e:e1 like you had

DD ch oice? You kn:o:w, so those are- 8om-e things

that we know. Okay?

We obviously knDw she was buried

because we found her. And then there's things

tbat they can tell from the tiss0e and stuff

things happened. I thlnk -- I think, I think yo u

were try i ng tO f I don't kn ow maybe minimize what

~Vl7a s there~ make it e as i e r.r I don 1 t knoi-.7 but th e re

were some other things that happened before she

was put in the ground. Let1s talk about that,

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DET. CARTER: Y€ah,. Se like t"S

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,SKYLF.R: ite I th k.

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was the cord? Was here? Was it on ,l,. L

side? Was it \\7r all the wa ar,ound her?

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ri toge the co aDd cou { was there' .L.

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a whole lot of other crap that comes out. So is

it poss Ie that because you were on he to t

n had her?

SKYL.\R;

DEI'. --:t: sit ssible

that s wentdo'wrl let for a se

SKYLAR; Yeah.

DET~ CaRTER: Okay.

SKYLAR: I t ed to catch rr I

coul 1 t. She fell.

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DET. CARTER: A little ck Dr

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toilet or ?

23 SKYLAR: Eve ng just came out at

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SKYLAR: onrt kr n:o.

LT. FAINE.: Okay. How d she ok

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DET. CARTER: \';.erf';; there li ke

bles or an Somet s there 1 s 1 ike

bubbles. Do r er seeing when YOil

ock~d at fa ce? \ii/as r face e water or

like to the side or was not? If you remember.

Oka . But she was head first. When said

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3 SKYLAR: ImeaI1 I wanted to catch

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DET. CARTER: You can't, ~hBy're too

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LT. FAINE: Doctors have a hardest

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goop. Okay. So maybe she was breathing. Sbe was

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16 back2...L"'1d think what am I going to do now? IrV'hat

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18 SKYLAR: I kinda (inaudible). I was

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20 DEi'. C~:liRTER: A lot 0 f hlo od _ What

21 out the placenta? It 1 s big like -- it looks

22 like a big thing of meat, 'what did y:ou d'O with

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24 SKYLll.R: It came out a little after.

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KYLAR: I put her n the towel.

DET. CARTER: Okay- T

SKYLAR: I her. hold heer

to-o. tight.

DET. C1LR.TER: Do you feel Ii she

was reathing when you were holding a you

held too ti t?

s ha ng head no.)

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LT. HE: n you - so can

deser for me like taking her but of the to let.

Li ke how d you take rout -- b~cause put

her in t towel, ow did you ta~e ber out of

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3 hamis lik.e you rnove-d it tCD -- a.re you being

4 car.efnl because itl:s a baby or dG you

5 reme..rriber like ~where you Ii ft her? Did you try to

get like her neck? 11m just p uring her head

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10 LT. FAINE: Okay. And again welre

11 just trying tD ask because w~ weren't there abd

12 ""ere just tryi!1g to make sure, you know,

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14 SKYLAF. : I just w-anLed r to be at

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16 DET. CARTER: You know, nobody

17 really fully I thi~k rests In peace unless you

18 know thatls exactly what happened. and if you

19 watch an of those shows like you see eople like I--·----·---------------~'-------- ---.------.---- --.----.--.---.--....------ - ----.

20 20 years later family members are trying to find

21 out what happened so that they caD be at rest and

22 so can the family member that di·ed. So thatls all

23 we're trying to do is find out what bappened so

24 that we can put the medical stuff with, you know,

25 wha t bappened. And that 1 s only going tD come from

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[rut you 'were 311 alone. It 'vi';a S just yo'nand hcr.

So you I re the only one that can help us, she

c an 1 t, 0 kay?

8.0 y-oune:e-rl t·o do tbs right thing

right nowaod just tel~ us e~erything that

happen-ed . Even if i ts u c k s to say it, just t e l I

llS everything that happened. and we can mov'e aD,

Ok3Y?

LT. FAINE: You knDwJ Brandi ~nd IT

we talk to so many people that after the fact, you

knDw, they! re like thatfeelin.g 'onc.e they final 1 y_

tell the truth .a.rld then -get it out b-ecause I bet

it ha.s prob.ably bothered you some bec.ause I can

tell that you care. It bothered you some since

Friday, since we talked, you know, since you knew

I didnrt get the truth and you still had to carry

20 So like Brandi said - letrs start

21 there. So now you picked her out from the toilet

22 and you wrapped he r in a towel and held her

23 easily. And just be truthful now and let's go

24 from there and tell us the truth.

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JE? CARTER: I know.

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DEl'. CARTER: It'fg ok 1.:1 C2.nltr

it - 1 S .okay, were trying.

SKYL1LR: I think 11m t one

killed her.

DET. CARTER: Okay. Okay.

K I kil hex. You

ink I 1 r on purpose.

DET. CARTER: Skylar, no one

believes th~t.

I squeezed her. I loved

her~

DET. CARTER: Skylar r no one

that u QuId i to harm r on

No .one believes that, y?

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We are in saJIle - we

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12 LT. FAI1~E: It's important

13 DEI. ER: D you give ber a

14 t? I'i"hatT2:{ her name.

15 SKYLAR~ Ann lIe.

16 DET. CARTER: Annabelle r okay. Ca

17 cS 1 ber Annabelle?

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23 SKYLAR: I am so .sorry.

24 DET. CARTER: LetTs just p

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Can I go home with my

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DET. CARTER: I canlt answer th~t

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happened. I 'haven't finished talking to YOll,

okay? All right. You think u squeezed her to

hard because she -- and I feel like when you say

that maybe you thought sbe was breathing before

and you didn't mean to. I don't think you meant

to, but you squeezed her too hard. H-ow long do

you ~hink you were squeezing her?

SKYLAR: Just a little bit, a little

bit.

DET. CARTER; Okay. What makes you

think you squeezed her too hard? Like what makes

you think that looking back now, not th€n, but

looking back now?

SKYLAR: I squeezed hard, like not

so hard, but just like, I just (inaudible).

DET. Cil__'R.TEP.: lLT1d you think that "s

when sb-e died?

SKYLAR: Maybe.

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DET. ·CARTER: But you donlt ~ave any

h sa 1 t hiss ':! e s{ t. you1re pretty healthy?

SKYLF...R:

You're 18, so a y.

Did she look pr€ t he thy? rHearl

proba y seeD b ies be£ore( did sh-e look pr-etty

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SKYLAR: S was ki21d of g.

DET. CARTER: Yeah. Li thatl s

pretty hea thy. I t fnk thatr~ a good t en

babie's look bigger tfi.:;n e

u1re not a sIDDker, ri tV

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DET. CARTER: Tbat's B.ecC'luse

if she was tiny that WOll meant you smo

So you think rna t s when it h ned.

then and +- ze

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SKYLAR: Wbat fire?

;:JET. CARTER.: ere's 50me vidence

to sh·ow t.hat tbere was some burn cn her.

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th I didn' t- rn her. s 1 ts of

fbonf ires 1 but I d t her.

DE:!'. C}iRTER:T re I S .hee.n some

and s tuf.f on Rome of so

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DET. ER: Are you sure?

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DET. CARTER: Are u sure?

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here did you like -- d n an

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But was t'i3ere e -else? I mean how tbat uire

tell 9 some more t

more truth tode:! t re someone else that

Iped D this day or anyth ?

SKYLAR: No. And I did Dothi

fire, no i

DET. TER: kay.

LT. FAIME; Is it

c:rig ally in the fire pit be re u

SKYLAR: No.

LT. FAINE: I don't mean with a lit

fire, but put her in fire pit?

SKj:"L7\R: 1\1 o.

DEl'. CARTER: Okay. Not a t

at out like some 0 heat source? Was re

any heat invol any 1 ? This would have

en after she was rle so it 1 s not li

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DET, CARTER: No ;"Ta v'e r no oven?

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IrJ€ 'I'e t ing Ie out. I t Te"s

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10 DET. C1LB.TER: That l,S t we!re

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12 xplanatioh for ned with somet g. I

there! s some sort ofw.a t t we can figure

14 'what h n th Bomethi because, you

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our bones get like that. from all accounts

17 he 1'00 li a pretty healthy normal from

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quest and the only reason is s e th,er,e is

16 forensic me al e dence where they have been

17 thr.ou there, some of what she sa not all ofI

them, but there are some different vert ra and

19 some ribs a t hat is c h a rd. }in d n there---- .. -------~

was some fatty tissue at burn on one side

21 a not e other. So the doctors know ~het there

was £ire .of some sort or some of bu ng.

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DET. CARTER: It 1 S not it' gnot

on er Ice. It's not on her I' i t 1 s all

Ii lower body. So I wonder if i t\,)as jus t

one of those 9 3 re just tho t jl,Tell

ma e I can this and - because I think like

with crenation 1 '-w i ::0 some a s

at I can keep my ughter and ke t

because '- u realize t wasn't a good id€2

because you're a d person. That's he:: I t k

he ened use ere is some arring, it's

not a 1 t nes. I think, I hink u

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what I want to do, th snit what I want for

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1T. FAINE: abelle serves

better a 11 just took her

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like gosh, isn't ~ t I want for my

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SKYLltR.: s int I WOll tell

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11 DET. R: We just need to ow

VI' h Y tb ere yJ-3 S a fir e .

13 SKYLAR: e towel 'VIta S ack.

14 . CARTER: No. is is act y

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LT. Ffl.IlITE: Yeah! B:i1d I know -- 1 i

th~ 0 er nay, I just want to do right by r

to do rig by hel. W :1, we have a

friend you }cnow, we have tbese bracelets on

t say 822, was one our best friends Nrho was

8 killed q'nd, u ow, he was cremated cause hat

9 is a ve accept -- a that's when I first

10 rd I wondered well rna e she was. g to

11 trY to cremate her 5e tbatls, yeu k:i1ow,.

12 tha t·! s very ac 1 e r ttl s norma 1 . It1s iD

the B Ie! es toa-3n.es, st to st. I mean

14 f re cremated g-et back to a hesi to get back

.15 to or inal form we were created from .

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11 use t bones were charred. And it wasn't

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n'1 "r19 t ~ ~J. heart were, Oll

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ow where heart and were, but you have

to tell us because I can r t assllrile that I you

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16 mean I th Jc I know but I don't know eve i g.

17 So we need to tell us. n ",1ere ere. You

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u. and

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i tever u can fix at that point

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I don r t want to t we s in ur mOll 5 lar.

I 1 t ~.;T3n t you to you I want I

th.i I w bas en what I know of

But I want you to tell m~ ever that

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mind so t at I can understand. I vrant to ar it

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DET. ER: 50 you! re ho her,

squeezing heT r ens ri t after that?

Just kind of }.fB lk me thr like eve hing. So

u j re. her [ eeze r and t n at

3re u w~'1at are you thin ? Just k d of

like close your e 5 r put urself back ere and

just walk me th it like I was t.here. I want

to 1 like I was t re th you to ow t

SKYLAR: Do I get t.o g.o th

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that we V6 to :r:-eport to, So T can't get

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any g lIe until we know eve hing.

We would have to know not just Wh2~ happene t

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mind? What was of ukno",r I going thr-ougnf

ur head? o.c those things are .:ttan

t ings t ow. r ' st answer tI canL

questions llntil we ow what h ned.

We know me cally what h ened, but

there's a big ference. I think ",reuld agree

etween someone throw~ng someone in a fire

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ustification for why th ha ned. Does t t

sense? Okay. That's what -- I w p

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But now it"s Annabelle.

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ha -e~ed. ll.nd that somec.ne dult just

throw ber on a fir~ and yeah, that sort of

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Just ,\.;alk me thro You're h r, just

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that you w€-re king and everyth 9 u did just

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SKYLAR: I t t I could cremate

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DE . CARTER: ere'd you put her?

SKYLAR~ In a

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he Ii er re wa's e?

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SKYh.~R : (Ina l e.)

.uET. CJU~TER: Try to er lee

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SKYLAR: s was i n .th'e r e .

DET .. ER: -In the h e? So you

hole first? 0 y? t n you put r

in the ho Then 'd you do?

SK:"LAR: I buried her.

DET. ER: Where'd you put

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SKYLAR: I guess I just -

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DE T. CARTER: Wb at pea r't 0 f the

remain.s? Like did you start like at the bottom,

at the top?

SKYLAR~ At the bot. t ·om .

DET. C.Ii.RTER:Okay_

LT. FAINE: Did you ha~e anything

else or use anything to help try to light it? You

know, because usually at the crematorium there's

t h i Dog S t h-a t .roa.k e i tintense to bel p tb e pro ce s s .

You didn I _t haVe .anything to like .any kind of

light~r £~uid or gasoline or anything to try to -

something to try to help, help light?

No.

1T. FAINE: I'm sorry?

SKYLA.R: No. ------- ---.--.------t----

1,T. FAINE: You didn1t?

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DET. CARTER: th.en did it·

ever -- did reJIla sever 'co fir'E? Li was

there an actual fire?

SKYLAR:

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SKYLAR: 1'1 a A lit e

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LT, FAINE: rk outs de or

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SKYLAR: Dark.

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L1. F.A1NE- Okay. And are you

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as king just to sure.J: know c;ame out

I mean Ii I said you've been c r-a.t

me. Remember you came out day an bowed us

exactly ere sh was and €ve

which hBlped u it he1perl get her ck€r. So

it fielDed Ann 1.e . Seer eve ng r

every time us e tTU c ntilllles to

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welre go 9 to get it all the way closed and welre

going to get r( li know, back to T family

ere she belongs ~o a real,

r tru ur 1 ere she's red. p"nd

like you said t other daYT you wer c ng bard

ufre like s deserved tter 1 she

deserved bette You're right she does a she's

about to t you know r s I S about to get

better Ii she deserves better Better- than

being in 1 with CtOT Sf u just

sear ing and 5 ing and po n and ever ing,

u knew T now w.e I r€ gett ing t truth from u so

can be e all of at. Can you -- 5·0

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12 SKYLAR: e. Maybe - I tr d to

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16 SKYLAP. : I was wrong.

17 LT. FAINE: It just felt wrong?

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DET. TER: There wasnJt any e

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at did you ? Bow did u try to put

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re out r did u ave to de d you have

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17 SKY1AR: I don I. t think.

18 LT. FA n~"'"E : Because a lDt of t s

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nutes, 45 seconds, as just

DET. C]>'~RTER= Thirty rwtes?

SKYLAR: (Icau Ie) I e l t

DET. CARTER: So at sbme P Dt

let me ask you this, what made I ow you

id you t it was wrong, t :;ua you I

'-j..ve to out? l,- sO.rne another

ou t ? W.asi t as it was get t i n~g c er to ber

ce or was it _lust know, the smell Dr was.f

ere another ng that just ki made you

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tand tbat ! s wny I ask se that

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tr e f f he-cause '[ "-L

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I said ear ier if it was dark t's 9 to

dra~ attention and it's ingtD ma 'war

ut someone coming out. if you feel li

youlrs rna e dog Barneth wr 're Dot

ng_ to want someone to walt out a

So ire you!re le to

? yget all the flames aut r were to

d that?

Yeah.

LT. FAINE- Oka And

are you sure dn' use an ng, any water or

a·I} hi YO-u j list got eID out using dirt?

.. It too, ah,

LT. I Okay!' using t rt.

t dD you do next:

SKYLAR: I buried her.

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DET. CARTE.R : Then '",'[hat?

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was there when w went Gut.

DET. CP-.:...'RTER: Then w GO

fDr yourself? Like what d you do I mean at

is point you1ve l:l th a lot; so t

you do?

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DET. CARTER: 0 y. Is that re

you put i in the trash can th gouts ?

SK-YLAR: (N-odd

DET. CARTER: ay. And u sa

SKYLAR:

"-?u bu t blace:'1ta too., r L. • Did put

that in - what order d you put at in verses

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Afte~[. I think.

D~rn'::..L CARTER: Was it after the fire

,or Wl the fire? Just Ii if have an i a

if was in t.here or not. is is kind of a

wei thing to nd of car a 1i it's an

odd r it! san matter. Was - lo.L me ask you~l...

t Sf was it st 1 ,attached'? Like you cut the

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The cord came O:.1t_ I

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DET. CARTER: You didn't cut the

cord from h~r?

SKYLAR: No.

DET. CARTER~ Because the cord is

attached. Was it still attachsd to the placenta;

do you remember?

SKYLAR: No.

DET. CARTER: Okay.

SKYLAR.: I don't remember, it might

have been ..

DET. CARTER; tJ.sually the COId is

attached to the baby and then it's attached to the

placenta which is inside of you but it comes out

after birth. So usually it's still attached. So

like when babi~s are born they cut the cord, you

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placenta. Did yell ever cut it?

SKY L.~R.: N·o .{ nD .

DET. CARTER: So it still would have

been attached then to her?

SKYLAR: Maybe, I didn't think it

was attached to her.

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put the p centa in U'I re not sure?

y. that may have 2 :well ?So l;et me

just ask you tbis very important stion, aY,7

ec.ause it IS really ortant I mean t ~7:e

alr.e to us most of 'Okay. At

point I e1 11 r you W, you ! r·e a mom nDW,

u' had a kid, I know she d .! t rna. it yo

had a kid, so you have t 1: kind of int tioD. At

what point you fe 1 1 she st breathi

'.j..as lJ.- in the oilet? n you w-ere ezing

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SKYLAH: I di 't think shB was

reathing en s cameoilt.

DET. CJtRTEK: Okay. What made

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SKYLAR: I don't

DET _ CARTER: Did uli ke see her

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LT. FAINE: L~ke a little g~rgle

s ? You Yo...TIo'W.r t'hi sis I. S is tant

because I ow us a of truth

LlDW t i 's besn rea 1y hard to get to ths

..:l- , , ..I.. ~ ,L r'-c L n! D know. And Ii when we firs asked y

out fire~ you know, t at was just bas on

Dot cause we were re, but just ba on all

the e der;ce that the doctors e us. W we

firs said at, u like you lea:1ed backJ

and SD,

SKYLAr:;.: I ow.

LT. FAINE: But then as it tU7DS out

you ow you decider ay, I am going to

just going to tell them hat. So, you ow, this

has Annabelle, she was a 9 s i z ed rIDean S D e

was a od siz ttle rl. You!re a healt

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9 SKY LJl..R : S what are y cu ys

lOsaying?

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CET. CARTER: No, 1i I W t we were

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"I wha-c and you said I mean you got

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said I feel li I kill ber en I w,a s s zin-g

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ttentioD

23 DET. CAR Like ",?hat? 1: do

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the tDilet faster?

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knew -- I th k that as

basically felt like

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mom'l but I ow

reJs a stronger bond

in ~he whole world than .i5 a e1:

.and their :children, boyar girl, i ver y

have. So

DET. CARTER: You owe t t to her to

tell-

imm-ed tely fell in h her and

made those -- you said YOll worri

accidentally, you did sDmethi ere we.reso

manYITLOre things cou ve Ire

still -- you1re just hal some ing bac. You

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....to "- you to say rna or anythi~g, just

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us, I ~on~t tbink you kil Rut I thin

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little bit, you know, but I rt th k Ll killed

her But I believe that based On eve h

talking to you and I just believe that there were

signs tha she was aIiveat first. And then I

It think you tr to 11 r. 3-u tIth i :n k

e ",~ere s s that shawas, and I want you to

p ase for her just tell me t 1 us \.,rhat

How Q u know rstr you ow,

that she was prob y alive just a Ii tIe bit?

SKYLAR: e t t I saw her

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acr-o'ss bere ere are certain bings eD.

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expI2 s s i on was tha t Y{Hl :we re so :s cere like you

tru felt,a ul li udid something. But you

ew yO'J ! t, do it on p'J.rpose. So t se

lings were ne. at tbat also, tells

for IDO percent surer I ow that somehow u

ow she was a1 like be re that. And thatls

y youfre war ed dn't somet n9 that

u hav-2 he

SKYLAR~ Well, I k t

ave ill a noise.

LT. ?AINE: IVJade a se? a 1: kind

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s Ma e a little no se, a

5e like -- n I 't hear another one.

LT. FAINE: dn I t r an er one?

is nature because tbat's what I

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DET .. CA.RTER: Was tha like when 5 e

s .I.. 'in e LOl or was that when you were

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SKYLAR! I think it was when was

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and then not another ound?

LT. FAINE: Like r sa: en you·

ho ht then maybe heard one more e?

SKYLF~: No, I said I dn't hear

nother one I donft think.

DET. E.R: Just the one.

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g18 sound?T.ell us about ause one

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LT. FAINE: I r s ti:L'ld .

DET. CARTER- Ye # a baby just fell

DDt of your I mean t would .be sho

F.FiINE; That 'would shoe ng.

Youfre doing ~his by urself in your bat om.

You're p2.rents are home. B when you did - when

you did finally look, t else were you able to

see or d you SS~ an arm either arm

move or both arms move at some int when you did

loc-k?

Itls a T we're just tr ng to

get. 1 4 m just trying to know - want to be

Ie to tell the or what all si s you saw.

How you ow the b was al just a little

just t t-o help t.

SKYLAR.; I saw ~er arms rna e a

little bit moving u 1 e J •

DET. CARTER: Wasthet also en

was the toilet?

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LT. FAINE: What ut 1 beca.Gse

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SKYL]LR: 1'1a a, but t way e was

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say, ~mayber" what does that mean because we're

not trying to put wDTds your mouth, S lar, at

alL r just -- I ow t you made it clear that

she was alive a~ I st

DET. CARTER: I mean you a.t

happen We khOW, you just have to say it.

LT. FA It·' soy f 1 ike I t d

U f n i changes. Every you tell us rha

truth nothing is changi you know

SKYLAR: -leah, I fro just real rea

for it to over. I It want to to jail.

LT. F.;'INE: Dear r I ow you are so,

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t d c ed to wbere we were last Fri y.

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LT. FA:LNE: It's okay.

DET .Cll... RTER: What I d say?

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DET; CARTER.: I ow. Dc you t k

tbat lea her the toi t is at st d r

breat,h ? Bec.ause I kn01A1 before you said you

tho t it was when s eezed r f but

SKYLAR: ow. I

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1T. FAINE: Or when u pul

n you got her out of he toilet I guess the way

VI e ! 11 at j Sky1 a r f is yeu the r 0 u t

O.I the toilet d u s 11 ha~e Eore signs and

t's so then thatis what e think the

squeez did it or -

SKYLAR; 1'1 a e. I dian! t thi.nk I

saw a art beet.

LT. FAIl~E; I can underst

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ba 's heart beat is kind of -- kind of fferent

a t y're so t YI youfre not going to feel her

in·g. But 'when I would ink

when you did get r out of the 'Coilet.'

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DET, C]!.RTER: If she was still alive

to fi e out was l~, you

knew., ,her let that'~ when it ha en or

because I ow you said beard e in

e t ilet and then didn r t hear aTIymore.

I dn~t hear it because of the towel i I was

hal her.

DET. CARTER: At wha point, because

there's ays that definLlg marneIn: at- t

moment d ow that she waB gone? Because

can j u,s t , I rnecan apIa' ki of tUrn dif rent

colors and you can tell.

SKYLAR: (Inaud Ie,.)

DET. CARTER: You just d t lookI

Skylar. look at her did ever

look at her face Dr just was samet ng you

were tr ng to aVDid?

SKYLAR: (Inaudible) ,

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L7.FAINE: s did .. D y. Bee us e

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s.ome·fuz z and some have nose. So do 'you t nk

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1£ w if they're till here .or if they ran to gel:

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L m .1 • FAINE: I th k they were just

2D something

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1 Ii lD her face did she look like you?

mean d she -- so'met s it s hard to tell with

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SKYLAl?: ; (Ina ud Ie I .

DE? CARTER;

doctor. I !t expect you to be to r

I just want to be clear abcnrtr you know l

what point you thou t she was gone. That IS .all r

I just nd of wanted to know for her.

LT. FAINE: Let's ask th

S lar, how - a again, I don't ct u

s was alive li just your clo~est es's? I

mean I know Ire not sure how long she was in

toilet, t how would be your closest

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SKYLAR: ( Inaudio . )

25 DET. CZillTER; A lot. It's a iot to

1 do wi::h :a t'eam of to::-s let alone by urse

2 SD I get it Just l- to "I. so that we have an

3 idea bow long she was alive.

4 SKYLJI..R : (Inaudib yeahr ma e.

5 DET. CARTER; Okay. I know you

~aid earlier you .ITta e .and 'we 1 re not

7 ho you to it, Skylar r rna s was

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9 of out. Okay. That's all nt. Okay f

10 J'ust breathe. You 1 ve t to ke

11 breat.h Take breaths.

12 SKYLAR: Are we a t dOhe?

13 I think so, h. We're

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SKYLAR; I want to

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21 'vi n I s·ay this is where we're at, this t is

the last rt ause it!s - \\7e r r€ just t iog to

23 f e out now this is like how .she was

24 alive, you w. We that u had scm"€:

in cations that she was. We also believe that 25

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3 it h ens Ii era:ly every y. I te to say

at 'Chat liter2.11y ens every, eve

single day~ rim just try to just try5

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7 two Dutes? Do y"Te thi it w·as fi VB IT: tes? Do

8 we think it was ten minutes? You knew, it

it doesnlt e hings if it was five

10 nutes or ten nutes or 20 nutes -or 30J

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12 SKYLAR: I caTl1t E, it was so

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14 DET. CAR'I'ER: ve that she

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16 toilet?

17 SKYLAR: Ma e she was ali~e. I

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21 L'.1'. FAINS: Was she ever - was she

ever enough t t you were worried

23 som oay mi t hear her?

24 SKYLAR: No.

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LT. F:P.:.INE: You don't th k sbe 1A'as

or -- because :::: 0",' in the house u ' re stairs,

YOD1re tbe ba:: it could - you ow,

IO-OInS -were - e rooms are d of close.

Did sn c ? Because if she was if she was

alive that 10Dg I wou1 defin ta y xpect she

would c least a 1 ttle bit. I y,'2'SD I t there

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sensit to their b , s~ c tben anyone r u

1 know. And this i a- this .i s, Annabelle and you I-re

15 r mom a I just - did you bear her cry?

16 SKYLAR: Iv:laybe a little bit. But

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20 SKYLAR: I mean just a gu g1e.

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22 L"'. PAINE: You It 1 her.

23 Now we're just tr to get the tru so we can

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SKYLAR: (Inaud \j •

LT. FAlhJE: We're n r we ~oLlt. No

U 5 ¥, it's not g to ba Xl no

matte:: we'7e both heari doi this for So 0

We' e both rents of ki 01 r an you. We're

neither O::1e go t'0 of n become

someth ff €reBt. So no ma ~er what say

it1s not - you know, ~e - we1ve children,

even c 1 en we've never met r you so we"re

t t e 'S a·'['[[€ sit u a t ion I t h ink re

are ...Lean te 1 -now' at you are just

to get all the truth out for An elle r

know" because e you said, Skjlar,

it more than a h ng. s serves it

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that u hea was t before you

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SKYLAR: I th k.

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SKYLAB.: Just a iit crying.

LT. FAIN2: A little ?

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DET'. C]l.,,",-BT"ER: I'vas t ;: the toilet

or out side of the toilet?

SKYLAR: In toil t.

DET. R: kay. YOU!Ve een

pretty consistent ut the fact that the only

noise you really eard was when she was in t

o let; is hat t?

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DET. C.ZiRTER: e only

vement you sa"r was when she was n the to let?

.SKYLAR: Yeah .

DET. CARTER: I dor! t t t n k I

It think s strayed from that. I know u

e war ed about s ezing r and balding h rr

is at ri ?

21 SKYLAR: (Ina ble. )

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LT. FAINE: I r 11 be back in a S€c.

DET. CA:RTER~ YOll feel 1i you told

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11 lot. Do you eel c you so ell you'-1

face Ar:n lle up t ere told US eve

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reI s not else? 0

15 S LlLll: Am I go 9 to jail?

16 DET. CARTER: don't what!s

17 going to ha That is not up to us, 0 y. Do

18 u feel like keeD sing that do you feel

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what's go o en because eare

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co rativ-e telling us t ed r

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control the future. It know at',s ng to

h en to I know that, I re ,a

9 gir and J ve got your :wn ure a ead

of you. You just need to think about Annabel

SKYLF.R': Yeah.

!JET. CARTER: 0 y. And De ud of

yourself for be hones today. Because a t of

people would ave 1 ed, you know_ A lot f people

that donlt £are about their ds wou hav.e lied.

Okay. Dsly you were honest. aka You

care out fuln You Ire worr

uti u know! r l her resting a you worry

bou But s will help the doctors get

VB hing processed and then they can t t

f ~ '-1ernains Dack to _c.,ml--L¥ a then can,

20 to_,do? Do y want to do a funeral? Do

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22 I want a funeral.

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DET CAR::::'ER: Were jus Vi ti:119 Dr

him to come then. Li I said, I k

we are the only oneB re. I do It know f t re

lsan else here, so we ave to for

t'G c.ome ba c k. k they ran to y, y

s thev were going to t some inq but I don't

tv. Jl.etuallYr phone's een on I.loor

while we were talking. I'm sure you it

buzz like crazy. I heard my one goi

t I hel lit could be thing. at kind of

schedule to ydu work at the Y? Do you work like

fu11-t e?

SKYLAR: No.

DET. CARTER: -NO / okay.

Li a week.

DET.. CARTER: Like now reany hours?

SKYU\R: Four or f ve.

DET. CARTER: How would so is it

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w there T 2 lot., a lot of bleeding. Lots and

lot.s of bleedin 9 . Did u have iea:: ?

worried out a hing with ur b or

anyt ng? Okay. Feel okay? Don! t e like u

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Okay. Do e1

like you need to t checked u~ and make sure

you're okay?

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DET. CARTER~ I -when I bad a

kid I was 21, I fe t like my entire in ides were

falling cut so I saw a doctor.

SKYLAR: (Inaudib e).

DET. CAR E.R; I think that mi be

t he's doing, 11m not sure. Ee's not text 9

SKYLA:R: .so I'm stuck in here?

DE'T. CARTER: You and I are

stuck re ri t now. I can't leave ei er. I'm

.Bsing r parents donlt know an a

what we tal about to y.

SKYLAR: 1'1 t.a1k to ern.

to hear from you ~ ible) . I ve a 19 year

I ow it wou~d come better from me or om

kid than it wo~ld som~b

f:ficu conversat n to have Tim sure. I

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de'Ci s h t'O dBal wi know. I mea:1

U T roe , you were all alone. You never told

an I dOTI'~ th k I could that Ii that

rls ,a lot tc to rse If,! u KI: a '\i\' , '-'

ever :Vl1ant tell your rents? Yeab . Were

afraid th y w'Ould be Dr 1t l 8

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SKYLAR; . Am .1. going to jail?

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call. 1,i ltd before like I don't j e.

I el like, you kno the rei. saw 1 e st of

tb that were geing on n r rni at the

t fu'1d that!--s rea y no.:t up to me to decide.

Yeu ow,! live not been in yeur shoes. I w s

g en I n::y daug it was a

di erent set ·of circtlIIl.stances, you knDw. Idon't

know I don 1 t know ur f ly. don't OH if

you have the kind of parents that like

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prebably been in fear to tell eIn. But I was out

of t house when I got gnaDt s'Oi t 's a

fferent circumstance.

I 0 like I teld you before,

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2 that on tha news r Ie just .l. L ough there s

3 away ",'ith the You di '1 t "al.. . Y011

4 tr d to crt::ma t·.e h r.r t ed to b r You

.r you tried to ep her close l:.O

SKYLAR: ( IDau Ie. )

7 DET. CARTER: if DB I s

8 to. , . Kll1g o tn.em rl now or not, so we v€ to

9 wait for him to come back here. I don I t know.

10 .5KYLAR: Do you ink y'll take

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12 DET. CARTER: He be

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16 DET. CARTER: I donlt know. I donrt

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.21 1 to them.

22 DET. CARTER: I told r you w€re

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24 LT', FAINE~ I was talk 9 to your

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SKYLAR; YeaD, I n to te them.

LT. FA E: I d It tell them

Ii t-erally a h 9 that e tal t y. I

just told her that r da d I sa i d 1 i.ke Ito

first stion

t came .as a result th:e corO!1€r I s

investigation. I sa welre spe

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I said s 1 S being hon€st. d f you kno'w r

s ill just a very remorse 1 yaung - y Ire

r:-emorseful. 11m sorry, I -just w,ant to make sure,

a ve emors€ ung a s 1 a

scared -- a scared girl sheTs he ing answer a

t of the st s tha t., you res:wlted as a

re.sul t C) e tioD from the doc ors. fuld I

said the stu f s is -'- u knocyJ J' she IS he ping

us rstand so -- and that's where we are.

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at want te 1 theIIl r you t

LT. FAINE: And I said

sold, u were sill 11£ but ere

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! ,tAnn 1l S mom~ You DiAl I you have t to

be the ODB r you OW J to do t .. I Ih'it's

going to be t t Ii sure but

JET. CARTER:: HOllJ do you want do

ou want to that here? Li do want r

to talk to them and tell 1

D-o I get to go home?

LT. FlUNE. She' s as you how you

DET. CARTER: I'm~ot s g if

u want to d it her€ th

SKYLAR.: No, I want togo hOITi€ and

tell

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T. CF...RTER: Okay. You donIt want

asking .. I would want to do

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21 have a pLan from ?

22 LT. FAINE: I have -- lot of

23 tt s of Diet si so I need to step out to 'C~e

restroom. That's ate p~anr I'm sorry

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SKYLAR: ~o I get togc home?

I go to pr

DET. CARTER; y won 1 t -- .no ..

Prison i~ Like after -- like 'd have to go to

court first be re you would to prison. You'd

hav_8 -go to court ta 1 k to j e and there1d

have to be ~ audible} to go tc prison. Prison is

like you t serve t e if t t Yo

either go home u wonJt stay here. Either

you'll go with your parents or stay the

non. But it wo 1t - you won't

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SKYL1LR.: Will I ve to go to COll t?

DE':!'. CARTER: I th nk so, probably.

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at{s d. You care about Annabelle.

s Do u hate me? -,DET'. CP.RTER; 1- D

~'worried ut u. I th k you did Lne ght

thing t ay. at makes me not hate you. Like I

said, u COll have thro~IIiTD her In the t ra sh! you

co d come in here and lied. _You could ve

sa I ve a shit about Annabelle. You

didn I t, yo cam.e in here and you told us ""'bat

ha ned, ri t? You told us what happened

because. you care ut her.

SKYLAR: I want my rno~ and dad.

ow d Y n eyrre go g to feel after

te at ha ? I don't know them so

SKYLp.R: e they'll understand.

DET. ER: '?Understa "C.

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means. I th i w tever

tba 1: means. Y.ou have t Through it. You learn

from it and then you move 0 . You have a w,ho e

1i ahe of ',:{ou're 18, okay. You ve a

wbo e li e ahead of you. And then u'll be old

like me at 41 and t s will all be ben d

won't ta h ' "a1: -.long, t I'm just s ng I u

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don't think so.

SKYLAR~ (Inau 1 e . )

DET. CARTER: NOr th don't

a ody here. This is just like t Ii they

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in jail for it?

DET. CARTER: I donlt OVI. I don't

even know if U I re goi to jail. When d

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13 DET. CARTER: You!ll 9 t through it.

14 ng to e this~ kyler r you

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1 .{:not have to de ne the rest of you ..l.. .L.e.

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18 DET. C}l~RTER: I can't {inaudible)

com-es hack lOy? I! m not lowed to leave you

21 ere alone, oka I want to make sure u ar,e

safe. I know this feels 1i .IL end of the WDr 1 d

23 right nOW r but you have to just get through itr

24 e it r t thro iti 0 y? You can't change

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SKYL1L17\: I I ow.

DET. CARTEE: That·s how life WOIks.

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stuff. You just work throu it. Ta

ever cons nC6stbere aTe a just move

forward.

SKYLA..R. ; Yeah.

DET. CARTER~ f re 18, 'Okay.

You I ve got your elite ahead of You;ll

get throu.gb s. It will change you. You'll be

a let ely d rent person. But III get

through is tben move oTward. One y

h"-?•at a t __ .L. Welcome to bei an ItT it's

n'ot as mu fun as they make it so~nd. What's

u mom's name?

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Scott.

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SKYLAR: No., I have a brot r.

DET. CARTER: How d is ?

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fingers are cramped up. No,

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what ns. O~e day a~ a t ~ ri " One

minute .at a t if you ve t T it all

ow. t w 1 be 0 y eventually. Not r ght

awaYr but EVEntually.

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DET. c}iRTER~ Of course.

SKYLJl.3: (Inaudible. )

DEl'. Ct:l.RTER: Honest y{ Skylar r I do

not know. mean I honestly , w until we

f ish 'Our nte s with pe e a-nd them

talki a o'w all t'ne fae-ts, t nwe cal'lour

boss say what do they want us to do. It J S not

even our decision that we rna

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rnu onger. I just I m not sure

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21 decisions t t are made by other pe Ie, not us.

They tell us t to dD. It's pretty muCh how

23 life works. Eve has a bosS-r ri t?

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for itea Ie and then it got

better. At the time! rr I u t tho. my

1 ; _J.. was over and ' was not g log to IDa it. So

that be hmv YDU I re el 9 tod ike it's

over, Ii els over. I kn:)w. I IS n t true. You

feel t t way th I w as a mom I've been

t,8 ' ! I':" ..LJ.. you that you shou L that way or

that 1 s not ng to n or help but 'C does

get t er. Tt to. s t I :::::eally '\>,Jant you to

bold on to tne owle th that u d

right thing and you to' everyt I thi k

thatIs far more rtant than an hing else

ecause you ve to you have t:) live with that.

You knov,' f if u wou d have 1 d and cantiou to

ever o'g a rest! would ve to