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Closed Church Buildings and Use Seeking Jeremy Tipping and Harvey Howlett Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

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Closed Church Buildings and Use Seeking. Jeremy Tipping and Harvey Howlett. Dioceses. Partnership. Commissioners. Dioceses. Partnership. Commissioners. What is a Suitable Use? How do we assess it? What is the Value? How can we better work together?. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

Closed Church Buildingsand

Use Seeking

Jeremy Tipping and Harvey Howlett

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Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

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Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

Dioceses

Commissioners

Partnership

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Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

Dioceses

Commissioners

Partnership

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Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011 Summer 2012 Conferences

What is a Suitable Use?How do we assess it?

What is the Value?How can we better work together?

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Church, Medical Centre,

Pre-School,Community Centre

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Christian Worship

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Pub

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Climbing Centre

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Community and Health Centre

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Residential

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Corporate Events Venue

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Parish Hall

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Children’s Play Centre

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Office

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Suitability has nodefinition in the legislation

Test• Is the use “OK” ?• Is the use achievable?• Is the use sustainable?

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Worship Office Play

Parish Hall

Events

Climbing Residential Health

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Worship£900K

Office£36K

Play£200K

Parish Hall£1

Events£300K p/a

Climbing£27K

Residential£27K

Healthat loss

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Suitability has nodefinition in the legislation

Test• Is the use “OK” ?• Is the use achievable?• Is the use sustainable?

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Is the Use OK?

• Not one use being better than another but simply is the use acceptable

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Is the Use Achievable?

• This question draws in limitations for which significant amounts of information is available:– Planning– Historic Importance– Area– Condition

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Is the use Sustainable?

• The question requires thinking about not only achievability but also how long a particular use can be sustained.

• Will it survive for more than a few years?• Also important to consider when discussing a

worship user

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A Tale of Two Churches

Grade II* Grade IIResidential Area Residential AreaBuried Not BuriedResidential Possible Residential Possible

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A Tale of Two Churches

Marketed for Any offer for Residential

with PP and LBC Guide Price £200 K £300-350 K

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A Tale of Two Churches

Guide Price £200,000 £350,000

Offer Received £40,000 £461,000subject to planning

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Risk and Reward

Obtaining consents costs money which is at risk

But the rewards can be significant and more than cover the costs

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Value

Value of the Building as it stands

Value with alternative viable uses

Value with permission for use

Value of the building with use in place

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Value

But What About Mission?

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Value

Community Value Mission Value

These are intangible so how do you make the assessment?Without the financial information is it possible to make this assessment?

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Market Appraisal / Valuation

Essential early informationIn every Case?Assess Value

Cost or RepairHistoric Importance

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Achieving Value

EnsuringStrategy for MarketingMinimum DelayAchieving/ Maximising Return

now or in the future

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The offer accepted but subject to the negotiation of an Overage Clause.Overage a way of preserving our interest in the eventual development value.But the deal has to remain a commercial opportunity for the Developer/Purchaser

£40,000subject to planning

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Site Value

Value of the Building as it standsValue with alternative viable usesValue with permission for use Value of the building with use in placeValue of a site for development

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What is a Suitable Use?How do we assess it?

What is the Value?

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Successful Use Seeking

A successful use seeking strategy will take into consideration1. Viable alternative uses for the Building/Site given

context2. Market Appraisal/Valuation with and without planning

permission3. Interested Parties who can influence the success of

strategy4. Planning Policy5. Programme – 2 year use seeking then what?

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How can we better work together?Dioceses

Commissioners

Partnership

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How can we better work together?

PartnershipCommissioners

Professional TeamRegionally LocatedStanding with youSharing ExperienceNo surprises

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Conclusion

Achieving new uses for closed churches• Assess importance but also value• Develop appropriate marketing strategy • Invest to maximise value where possible• Secure value now or in the future• Working together so that there are no

surprises along the way